[QUOTE]”If I think about you for one second I go crazy. This is my first call I got to make. The only thing is – the only thing is, the only thing I try to do is not think of you. I can’t.”
Stand By Your Man: The Aaron Hernandez Saga Continues
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Another thread has been filled, much like...
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How wide is Ryan's hole stretched?
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the size of a football field
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His hole is stretched wider than the Astrodome
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I'm betting everything Ryan's girlfriend did not make it into that picture
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Ryan is a cutie, he seems like he's probably very charismatic
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Aaron’s big juicy hole
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/18/2018|
She cried about his infidelities that she found after going through his phone... and her decision compromise to save the relationship . So she 100% knew right? Or he WAS with other women too
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/18/2018|
Who should direct the limited series based on Aaron’s life?
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Silly! Ryan obviously Murphy should direct. With a stunning and brave inclusive cast starring a trans actrx as Aaron, who clearly identified deep down as a GNC queer/trans because ze liked cheerleading and dancing
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Obviously Ryan Murphy should direct*
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The Hernandez story on ice extravaganza!
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This state-of-masculinity/macho sports meets state-of-late-capitalism tragedy might’ve been tacked by a Norman Mailer (unfortunately probably accompanied with some palaeolithic views on homosexuality too). It needs a contemporary writer of that intellectual heft (minus the homophobia) to tackle this story and not some whiney sports-allergic “queer studies” type writer looking for a “queer” martyr to co-opt
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^ Ryan Murphy
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R9, of course, that's how Aaron's college girlfriend found out about him: she looked at his phone and found text messages from him to another (unnamed) man. It's been reported that while he was in prison, Aaron wrote to this ex-girlfriend several times about how conflicted he was about being attracted to men. As far as I know, those letters have never been made public. There are still so many things we have not seen. We also have not heard all of the Aaron/Ryan phone calls.
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There's no way Shayanna or Ryan's entire family did not know what was going on. I mean how did they rationalize Costa Rica? Gay aspect aside, it's still pretty odd for two men with fiances (we assume they loved dearly) to go on a week long exotic vacation together.
I think so many people had questions but were too afraid to ask.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||12/18/2018|
There's a guy who went on that infamous radio show (the show that exposed Aaron) to talk about how everyone surrounding the double murder case knew Aaron was gay.
He got this info from someone who worked directly on the case (way before the gay rumors). The person also told him that Aaron's been sending letters to a longtime boyfriend in Connecticut. Michele Mcphee called in right after, agreed with the guy, then basically confirmed it was Ryan by referencing the fox25 article.
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Aaron & Ryan's theme
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aaron on all fours like a hungry dog, begging for his man to cum inside his guts.
that's our boy.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||12/18/2018|
You really think Aaron was the bottom in that pairing?
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Remember “butter lips”🤢🤮! Aaron would’ve considered bottoming unmanly for himself and offputing in any man he was attracted to. Aaron was a “side”. A side of prime beef.
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r22 some of us don’t remember butter lips, and we imagine the name doesn’t refer to an appetizer made with aspic.
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👄A fellow prisoner who used butter as lipstick and whose “fag” behaviour caused violent disgust in Aaron and Ryan to whom it was related
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Oops 👉(The tale) related to Ryan..NOT the utterly sluttery buttery “fag” behaviour
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I *think* it was butter. Anyway It was a prison phonecall about an effeminate prisoner with very moist lips which perturbed Aaron and Ryan no end
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everybody has to have somebody to look down upon, eh?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||12/19/2018|
I seem to recall that DataLounge knew Aaron was gay by at *least* around the time he was arrested. Another example of our prescience. We're not surprised by any of this.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||12/19/2018|
[quote] There's no way Shayanna or Ryan's entire family did not know what was going on. I mean how did they rationalize Costa Rica? Gay aspect aside, it's still pretty odd for two men with fiances (we assume they loved dearly) to go on a week long exotic vacation together.
You'd be surprised how willingly ignorant some people are in order to not face the truth. I had a friend who was a big Pet Shop Boys fan in the 90s and I knew they were gay, but he insisted that they were just intense music geeks who have no time for the ladies.
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Continue my comment at r30. The family probably thought that Aaron and Ryan were just two straight guys going fishing or surfing, or doing other bro stuff together. Maybe meeting other guys and being even more obnoxious douchebros.
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I’d love to watch them doing bro stuff to each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||12/19/2018|
What..Like Aaron putting Ryan on his back while doing squats? Or Ryan holding Aaron’s feet down while doing abs...maybe while waving novelty beer hats with straws?
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Wearing* novelty bear hats
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I’m a bi man who’s never liked gay porn or overt (too-slutty) depictions of gay sexuality...but I find (possibly homoerotic) things like a man adjusting his bros tie or removing lint from his cheek to be extremely sexy while leaving something to the imagination. (Masc guys hugging and kissing I find hot also). I bet Aaron was very handsy with the guys around him. I wish we had more evidence of those moments.
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This story really has everything.
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For you, R35.
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R35 I would love your take on the possibility of one or both of the men being bi. As far as I know, you are the only person to state that he is bi in this or the last part of the saga.
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"I had a friend who was a big Pet Shop Boys fan in the 90s and I knew they were gay, but he insisted that they were just intense music geeks who have no time for the ladies."
I know straight REM fans who were shocked when Michael Stipe came out.
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R38 I don’t know and can’t know. In the case of Aaron we’ve only got his brothers word for it (I’ve no reason to doubt him. But that also contingent upon Aaron’s own understanding of gay vs bi and some guys in that street culture use the terms interchangeably or deny bisexuality at all ); contrasted with the high school quarter back(?) who explication stated they had bisexuality in common.
As for Ryan, again I don’t know till he says. But I’d urge on the cautious side of painting him as a duplicitous, cynical user of a women and a baby which are but mere props in his deceit and self-hatred. Isn’t it supposed to be the bi guys who are evil cheating monsters not the gay ones /s
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Explicitly * stated
|by Anonymous||reply 41||12/19/2018|
R40, to be fair, it's more than his brother's word: Aaron told his lawyers that he was gay, and told them to tell that to his girlfriend. According to his lawyers, the prosecutors in the second (double murder) trial were convinced that Aaron was gay, and believed that his sexuality had something to do with the crime.
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r39 I knew so many girls in high school who thought Morriessey was hot. They would go on and on about him, no idea that he was gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||12/19/2018|
Fair point r42. But again, and apologies if it rubs people up the wrong way, I would reiterate the point that it hinges on his understanding of what “truly” gay is as opposed to what “truly” bi is. On the face of it it’s a bizarre statement to make but so many people “IDENTITY” as one thing or another but their BEHAVIOUR is something completely different (even allowing for adverse societal pressures) That said, it seems if we go by strictly by number of reports there’s a few more in the “gay” column. That means, of course, totally discounting the HS quarterback, the college gf he was having sex with while confessing his same sex attraction, his fiancé, the baby sitter, and possibly other “infidelities” with women that Shay found. But I’m willing to go with conflicted and confused “gay”
|by Anonymous||reply 44||12/19/2018|
R35 I totally get you. When I was getting ready for my HS prom (with my female date) my best buddy came over to help me get ready. He straightened my tie, adjusted my cumberbund, and lint brushed my tux getting dangerously close to my cock. He even fixed my hair making sure I looked perfect for the big event. My heart raced. I wished at that moment that he was my date. He’s completely a bro straight guy but comfortable with his masculinity.
When the limo arrived, he gave me a bear hug, paused for a second looking me straight in the eye and said, “I love you, man. Have a great time tonight.” I didn’t. I couldn’t stop thinking about him. My HS friends and I had rented a cottage so we could bang our dates after the prom but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t get the level of intimacy I had experienced with him out of mind. While I do love women and think they’re beautiful, I find the intimacy between men electric. Maybe Aaron and I have that in common.
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R45 That was so hot and profoundly touching at the same time 😫. And a damn good read!.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||12/19/2018|
Fucking R45 is in here bringing tears to our eyes. This isn’t supposed to be the place for that!
|by Anonymous||reply 47||12/19/2018|
Aaron brings out the catharsis in us all.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||12/19/2018|
R35 I also agree with you. Simple acts of care and concern I would call them. I think it is sexy because it's done without real thought but with real tenderness. Often I fine with my straight male friends that tenderness is something they deeply desire but lack . Their fathers, brothers, friends are so busy putting up an act that the very thing that would make them close is cut off at the pass. I get hard watching a man start to really cry. They look like they are ten and there is a natural feeling to want to comfort them. When I was growing up I knew these twins. They would often do little things for each( helping each other on with a coat, wiping food off the others' mouth, putting an arm around the back of the others' chair)- and they thought nothing of it. But it was a beautiful moment of grace between them.
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Doesn't the football player from high school identify as "gay" now?
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R50, he does. Even the dreaded OutSports, a site on which no one is gay, says that the hs quarterback is gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||12/19/2018|
On the Gladiators podcast he says “bi”..but I’ve seen it reported as in other media as “gay”...who knows why; sometimes it’s easier to go with the explanation of less resistance
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R45 here - just to satisfy the bump I’ll expand on my thoughts on Aaron’s bisexuality (and NOT his homicidal tendencies)....
I work in the insurance industry in Massachusetts. A few years back we had a convention at Patriot Place which is a corporate function facility connected to Foxboro Stadium. It was a horrifically boring experience. The organizers planned a private viewing of the Patriots practice after the event which I thought was super lame until I got there. The team was in practice gear which meant shorts, leggings, regulation gear or whatever was required for that particular player’s work out session. Limited or no padding depending on the exercise. I’ll never forget the meet and greet after. Brady gave a 30 second speech and left. No big loss. Julian Edelman was pure fucking manliness without being douchey. Gronk was frat boy personified - not that there’s anything wrong with that. Very hot but I was so friggin’ bored after a long ass day until I saw *him*. Aaron Fucking Hernandez literally came sashaying down the greet line. All muscled up in a tight sweaty tee and bulging leggings with an obvious big cock hanging to the left. I could smell his testosterone before I could see him.
There were tons of super cute young women squealing for attention. He was all smiles and “awww shucks”, doing what Kraft told him to do. But then he hit a crowd of hot bro dudes from corporate. He pulled a few out of line, chatted them up, all handsy, shoulder rubs, play jabbing their tight abs, laughing almost giggling the whole time. Posed for pictures with the hot guys and gave them big man squeezes after. I didn’t see one single interaction like that with the women. I totally clocked him.
Told friends about it but they said it was my wishful thinking. They laughed me off until recent events were revealed. Once again the DL nailed it long before the rest of the masses. Nice work, boys.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||12/19/2018|
I'm sure Ryan was his safe haven growing up. The hours spent cuddling and talking served as escapism from all the emotional/physical abuse going on at home. Could explain why he sounded like a damn child in the first phone call. He needed that comfort only Ryan probably knew how to bring him in difficult times.
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Fascinating and very hot recollection, r57
Haha I know what you mean, he kinda did didn’t he...but Imaybe “slinked” or “loped” (lie a panther!) would be more in keeping with the fantasy lol
|by Anonymous||reply 59||12/19/2018|
Ryan must live this life in a "parerel Universe" esp. since Aaron is gone... sorry sp. Error.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||12/19/2018|
I wonder if the total loss of such an enormously outsized dominating male character from your life is completely discombobulating or strangely, guiltily liberating
|by Anonymous||reply 61||12/19/2018|
It must suck to be Ryan right now. Not only did he lose Aaron but he's likely getting the side-eye from everyone he knows.
I think Ryan really loved Aaron by the mere fact that he risked getting outed by engaging in those steamy recorded convos. He also went through all the prison loops to visit him frequently, was there to answer his numerous phone calls (he supposedly called Ryan more than Shay), read those letters that were described as sometimes angry and depressing.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||12/19/2018|
R61 Possible. But from Ryan's testimony it sounded like any distance that occurred between them in the past was always because of Aaron.
Relationship fell off a little bit in high school b/c Aaron "was a big time athlete"
Was re-kindled after the draft b/c Aaron "was in the area"
Didn't see him all the time because Aaron "was busy with football and stuff"
Ryan doesn't come across as a push-over either so I think he actually liked Aaron's intensity
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Ryan with a random baby...this could have been
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*...him and Aaron's kid
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R59 he really did sashay and I think that’s what got me hot as a bi guy. I love raw masculinity with a hint of pure sensitive feminine honesty. Like the cliche of a black & white photo of a naked buff dude snuggling a kitten. It kills me every time. Cliche or not.
Aaron was that man but his background, profession and lifestyle didn’t allow him to openly hug kittens. I’m not defending a murderous asshole but rather I’m attacking toxic male masculinity.
I love your muscles, your hairy chest, your big swinging balls but I want you to save the baby whales, too. Aaron could have done that with family guidance and real love. A real tragedy for his victims, himself and his family and loved ones. Nevertheless, there can be no excuses for murderous rage.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||12/19/2018|
So did the friend record phone call to sell ?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||12/20/2018|
R66, Aaron did not have a Hairy Chest!
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R67 Calls were released by the prison
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R68 - [html removed] I’m not talking about Aaron specifically in that instance. I’m talking about stereotypical masculine traits but thanks for spoiling my point.
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Honestly, I just wish Ryan wasn’t quite so insipid looking and they were more equally matched in raw physical magnetism..he kinda buzzkills the fantasy for me. OTOH he HS QB, from unpromising beginnings, developed quite nicely later on ( from the pics I’ve seen anyway). I think a proper relaxed TV interview with Ryan might turn around my opinion. And yes he does come off much better in the cringy vid with his GF
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R69 why would prison release the phone call ?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||12/20/2018|
R73, the Boston Globe asked the prison for the phone calls. The phone calls belong to the State and are public records; people have the right to access them unless the State thinks there is a good reason for withholding them. None of the phone calls from Aaron's final months at the maximum security prison have been officially released, though. The phone call in which Aaron recites the words to a love song to Ryan was probably given (or sold) to Radaronline by someone who works at the prison. I assume that's illegal.
These threads are fantastic, by the way--they are like a psychological depth charges, they bring up such strong feelings in people about what masculinity is.
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R57 thanks for sharing! Did you get to interact with Aaron?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||12/20/2018|
R72- Ryan is much better looking than Aaron. Aaron looked like a Neanderthal.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||12/20/2018|
I guess Aaron’s love for cheerleading is for real!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||12/20/2018|
[quote]Fucking [R45] is in here bringing tears to our eyes. This isn’t supposed to be the place for that!
Sorry, Weeping Willow, r47, my eyes ain't leaking, speak for your own peepers.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||12/20/2018|
As to Ryan being better looking than Aaron, that is completely subjective. I happen to prefer the rough edged yet smiling dimpled look of AH to the boy band prettiness of Ryan(who has great teeth and a nice smile.) I will say one thing, I would never have been attracted to Aaron in his most latter stage with the neck tattoos and sleeved arms. But the way he looks in the pool with his UF "girlfriend" is not to bad (the tatts.)
I do love that vid with him kissing the pup...it is much like what our bi guy described as to the save the whales, kiss the kittens thing. There is no arguing that Aaron had a soft side, but that makes it even harder to wrap my head around the fact that he tried to kill 4 men(that we KNOW of) and succeeded with 3. It has to be the wiring.
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R76 I think Ryan is the better loving of the two. Aaron has a rather Fred Flintstone feel. And of course he killed people. That alone takes point away from the attraction column.
Where you guys getting these pictures of Ryan?
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For me, Ryan is a nice looking guy, but I find Aaron super attractive.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||12/20/2018|
Aaron Fucking Hernandez is so HAWT!!!
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And still no penis pics?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||12/20/2018|
Ryan is more my type. A conservative, well mannered pretty boy by day, a ravenous and freaky bottom hoe at night.
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[quote]And of course he killed people. That alone takes a point away from the attraction column.
Just the one dear?
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Is that U of F lady friend of his in R77 Aaron's age? If so, that's a painfully hard 29.
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R85 = Edina's mom
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Ryan trying to steal glances at Aaron every chance he gets (during his testimony) actually brought tears to my eyes. Aaron died 5 days later
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No matter, I wish Ryan a nice life.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||12/20/2018|
No matter, I wish Ryan a nice life.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||12/20/2018|
[QUOTE]Ryan trying to steal glances at Aaron every chance he gets (during his testimony) actually brought tears to my eyes. Aaron died 5 days later
Omg I’m crying again.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||12/21/2018|
Going through Aaron's texts from that Globe article and I noticed he only attempted proper syntax with Belichick and Ryan.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||12/21/2018|
I don’t believe that Aaron killed anyone. He was set up.
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The closet kills.
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|by Anonymous||reply 95||12/21/2018|
R93, Aaron is compelling, but he was very guilty. People often say that someone who commit horrible acts must be a sociopath, but I don’t think that’s true of Aaron.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||12/21/2018|
Ryan looks heartbroken as does Aaron on pics from trial above. One left the planet. One "moved on" to "conventional" life and family. Only Ryan looks back.....
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[quote]I don’t believe that Aaron killed anyone. He was set up.
Stop thinking with your loins.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||12/21/2018|
None of you shallow freaks would give a flying fuck if either of these guys were ugly.
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R100 Are you dumb or do you just not understand human behavior? Would you watch a romantic movie with two ugly leads??
Stfu and get off this thread!
|by Anonymous||reply 101||12/21/2018|
They are bi and that’s the end of it. Ryan has moved on with a wife and kid, and I suggest you all take a hint and do the same.
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Ry Ry was drawn into the large, needy, charismatic Aaron very early in life and a bond was formed. SAtraights call it "Bromance" and Gays call it "the Closet," "Bi".
We'll never know fo sure ....
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R 102 Who was asking for suggestions from you?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||12/21/2018|
I don’t know anything about Ryan, it’s normal for young men to have situational brosexuality but to move on from it and thereafter live a mainstream heterosexual married life. I know of countless men who did this
|by Anonymous||reply 105||12/21/2018|
Aaron's been described as a master manipulator who told people exactly what they wanted to hear.
He wouldn't recite romantic lyrics to Ryan or tell him how he goes crazy when he thinks about him, if he didn't think Ryan would love that shit. Ryan's at the very most Bi
|by Anonymous||reply 106||12/21/2018|
I strongly agree with R93 to an extent. Aaron wasn’t a killer. I think obviously what went down at the nightclub with Odin Lloyd’s cousins rubbed Aaron the wrong way, getting outted & Odin probably running his mouth, who knows if he was going to blackmail Aaron with what he knew about his sexuality. Aaron had to protect his. Ryan was the love of his life & he sure didn’t want to lose his family or NFL career. CTE & paranoia got the best of him. That potent purple daily usage probably didn’t help shit either. He was smoking an ounce a day, coupled with low self esteem & depression, he wasn’t himself at all. I believe that night when he got his Bristol goons to come down, he was going to confront OL about what his cousins knew etc. At best, I think he wasn’t thinking straight, got pent up, felt deceived (remember loyalty is everything to a Scorpio) and wanted to threaten OL. But one of those MFing goons high on angel dust with nothing to lose took it further & shot OL. Probably cuz of disrespect. AH being easily led (he seems impressionable & wanted to be accepted on the streets-Thug Life Mutha Kisser) then realised cuz he lured OL into this situation, had no choice but to help out his goons by hiding the weapon which was in that safe that Shayanna got rid of, then tried to help them flee, and then eventually pay for their legal fees when they got caught. He was that loyal he weren’t going to snitch esp knowing those goons know exactly where he lives, and wanted to protect Shayanna & Avielle. He already had Alexander Bradley on his case wanting to take him out. So he was royally fucked by then. He probably believed that he was going to get acquitted cuz he’s an NFL superstar. I believe Aaron & Ryan were Bisexual but leaning more towards accepting they were gay. In prison AH knew he weren’t getting out soon, loved bussy & became spiritual, accepted his sexuality & probably concluded that he was gay. Wanted to live the rest of his life in inner peace by being who he really wanted to be. Prison probably made his reflect a lot in his life. Aaron was one of the best NFL tight ends, he was gorgeous, he could’ve lived his best life and moved out to Cali with Ryan 😭
|by Anonymous||reply 107||12/22/2018|
^You’re thinking with your loins as well. Aaron had a penchant for violent behavior (punching the bouncer in FL and rupturing his eardrum, etc.), and he was in a gang. I know you have a hard on for what he looked like when he was here, but that long diatribe you’ve written doesn’t excuse the massive amount amount of videotaped evidence we’ve seen and the common sense reasoning it should take for anyone who followed this story to believe that he committed those crimes. There was never going to be a rainbows and butterflies happy-swell-meadows type of ending for Aaron and his bi bro buddy Ryan.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||12/22/2018|
So if you were 17 & someone was up in your face like that guy at Swamp bar, you’re not going to try and deck them?! GTFO! He wasn’t in a gang until he got into prison and that was for protection. Videotaped evidence of what the fact he had a gun for protection from gangbanger Alexander Bradley?! His goon probably used that same gun to shoot OL, I’m just saying AH got rid of it to cover for himself and the real killer. Aaron was completely misunderstood. He had internal struggles, but no real hard evidence to say he was the actual shooter. I don’t buy it, he wasn’t the killer.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||12/22/2018|
so who shot alex bradley then if it was just him and Aaron in the car? if AH wasn't capable of doing all these other acts? If he can shoot someone he was supposedly very close to in the face and then leave him for dead then i think he might not the misunderstood person that you think he is...
|by Anonymous||reply 110||12/22/2018|
Aaron clearly had anger management issues. That, and his brain damage, influenced his actions (including the attempted and actual murder of people). Nobody deserved to die and Aaron is not innocent. Bad mix of "being at the wrong place, around the wrong people, at the wrong time". And it's telling that Aaron seemed to have worked really hard to never have a "being at the wrong place, around the wrong people at the wrong time" situation with Ryan. That guy meant the world to him.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||12/22/2018|
It was a drug deal gone wrong. One of AH’s NFL friends introduced Alexander Bradley to another known drug dealer so that they could do business while AH partied with his friends. Alexander Bradley & this drug dealer hung out at the strip club and then went off. After the shooting, Alexander made Aaron his target cuz Aaron vouched for his friend’s contact. He wasn’t in the car with Alexander. Alexander “Rocky” made that story up. He wanted blood, probably didn’t know who shot him & left him for dead so wanted Aaron to pay.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||12/22/2018|
Some of you are letting your penises take over for your brains to do your rational thinking.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||12/22/2018|
I'd feel sad for AH, except there's that little multiple-murderer thing.
Why did he need to kill?? (I don't mean the proximate motive; I just mean what inside him made him so crazy violent?)
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[quote]Why did he need to kill??
He didn’t kill anyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||12/22/2018|
^Yea he did, you horndog.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||12/22/2018|
Even if Aaron was released from jail, and could live his California life with Ryan, his CTE would have quickly ended all of that. They had their last romantic moment in Costa Rica. That's really where their life together ended. I have to say though I feel for Aaron with his abused life, anger issues, and CTE, I think that his prior history clearly pointed to the murder being a climax of his behavior. I also think he is far from handsome. He looks like a thug and a beast. I understand wanting to appear manly, but no decent person would see his actions and tattoos as manly. And he was trash raised by trash. Football was his curse and saving grace. And he was starting to fuck that up from high school on.
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[quote]I also think he is far from handsome.
Time to get your cataracts fixed, gramps.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||12/22/2018|
[R117] But. He’s. Hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||12/22/2018|
A heavy dose of ginger root and turmeric would’ve knocked that CTE right out. Aaron would’ve been fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||12/22/2018|
Who doesn’t love a bit of Thug lovin’.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||12/22/2018|
[quote]A heavy dose of ginger root and turmeric would’ve knocked that CTE right out. Aaron would’ve been fine.
If Aaron hadn't gotten vaccines, he never would have had CTE to begin with.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||12/22/2018|
Ugh so hawt.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||12/22/2018|
It's the smile and dimples which almost counteract the thuggish tats. He looks almost angelic when he smiles. Tell me, when was the last time you saw a Blood or a Crip who will flash a big smile whenever appropriate? They are all about being hard and tough They will show no weakness willingly.
Aaron was both tough and vulnerable. That's as much a part of his attraction as his muscled body and over sized package.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||12/22/2018|
He’s outrageously handsome.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||12/22/2018|
I think the Thug personality was developed to protect the sensitive gay boy inside. In prison too, he got in trouble proving his masculinity. He needed the general population to understand he was not one to be fucked with, at least not without lube ... Aaron was never a true thug. He was a psychopath. Thugs sit around trying to figure out how to get something for nothing. But Aaron was always a disciplined achiever.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||12/22/2018|
Gawd, that oversized package *fanning my loins* He could amazon prime deliver that to me anytime!
|by Anonymous||reply 127||12/22/2018|
On the bright side, Ryan's now known in his little town as the unassuming tiny white boy who had the formidable Aaron Hernandez wrapped around his finger.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||12/22/2018|
He’s sexy as fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||12/22/2018|
Are there any pics from Costa Rica?
|by Anonymous||reply 130||12/22/2018|
I wonder if Ryan as shared his experiences with anyone about being on the receiving end of Aaron's 11 thick inches, before the killings, that is. That's some bragging rights, right there.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||12/22/2018|
R130, they have yet to see the light of day.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||12/22/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 133||12/22/2018|
Baaump nfl bump!
|by Anonymous||reply 134||12/22/2018|
Aaron was actually crying in that phone call...so heartbreaking. It's obvious that more than anything he feared losing Ryan. He didn't even want the call to end, but Ryan needed some time to process the fact that his longtime lover was a murderer
|by Anonymous||reply 135||12/22/2018|
Was he really?
|by Anonymous||reply 136||12/22/2018|
Wish I could hear the calls. Radar online, just like, National Enquire et al. are not accesible from the UK
|by Anonymous||reply 137||12/22/2018|
^Oops punctuation fail
|by Anonymous||reply 138||12/22/2018|
R136 There was a lot of sniffling around the end plus he starts to sound even more vulnerable around that part too.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||12/22/2018|
Notwithstanding the um problematic nature of his crimes. I’m glad he won’t be coopted and neutered by the cringy lames at GLAAD, HRC, Stonewall etc
|by Anonymous||reply 140||12/23/2018|
R131 A tear just fell onto my cheek when you stated 11 inches. Lawdy! I am still waiting for the photographic receipts from that trip.... Ryan needs to spill the tea & offer some of that cookie on a plate!
|by Anonymous||reply 141||12/23/2018|
r137 just use a vpn.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||12/23/2018|
Just going to leave this here...
|by Anonymous||reply 143||12/23/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 144||12/23/2018|
He got that look in his eye....
|by Anonymous||reply 145||12/23/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 146||12/23/2018|
^That was how he looked down at Ryan whenever Ry went to work on that slab of Latino meat.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||12/23/2018|
After viewing the Pinterest pages which feature many men in their uniforms, it is apparent that AK had more bidness packed into his football pants than any other athlete pictured. It's not just length it's volume.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||12/23/2018|
R140, how awful do you have to be to think a murderer is better than GLAAD? Some people are so biased, they don't know how ridiculous they sound
|by Anonymous||reply 149||12/23/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 150||12/23/2018|
R148 I would love to give him a chub rub
|by Anonymous||reply 151||12/23/2018|
I just wanna bang him like a swinging door in Gone with the Wind...
|by Anonymous||reply 152||12/23/2018|
I really need to know who the other football player is.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||12/23/2018|
Outsport is still denying he’s gay and chalking down the reporting to homophobia LOL. Seriously, this is who we have representing us and the first port of call whenever mainstream media wants opinions on gay athletes smh. Boy, I’ll be so glad when the self-loathing eldergay finally dies out and the remainder interned in nursing homes with limited internet.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||12/23/2018|
^ *self-loathing eldergayS die out ...
|by Anonymous||reply 155||12/23/2018|
"Outsport is still denying he’s gay and chalking down the reporting to homophobia LOL. Seriously, this is who we have representing us and the first port of call whenever mainstream media wants opinions on gay athletes smh."
I agree that it's dumb of them to pretend Hernandez wasn't "family" - his own brother is confirming it at this point. But I also don't agree with those who think Hernandez is some sort of awesome role model for the gay community.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||12/23/2018|
R156, I don't think people seriously think AH is a "role model." He's a fascinating, multi-dimensional character. His story is, as someone here said, operatic, full of drama and intensity and sexuality. It's compelling; he's compelling. Every straight person doesn't have to represent something "positive" about straightness; gay people should not be held to a different standard. The only standard should be honesty.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||12/23/2018|
I knew so many girls in high school who thought Boy George was hot. They would go on and on about him, no idea that he was gay. Next...
|by Anonymous||reply 158||12/23/2018|
AH satory too complex for a 2 hour film.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||12/23/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 160||12/23/2018|
He was in a gang since young.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||12/23/2018|
AH had sex appeal with all the "goods" to "back it Up." Impacted NFL, Fl. University life, Rican Italian heritage, Boston social class issues, gangs, Hot sexy huge muscular hung beyond belief body he showed Off, Tim Tebow roommate, team owner influence, guns, violence, a tender love for Ryan and escapades in Costa Rica and California plus biracial baby from h.s. girlfriend. Gays and sports fans both gravitated to this story and Aaron Hernandez.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||12/23/2018|
So, are we just are going to gloss over the fact Aaron was hitting on and trying to sleep with women also (e.g. the baby sitter)? If anything, the guy was bisexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||12/24/2018|
"Glossed over?" R163. This gets litigated in every single thread about Aaron.
I'm not sure why. Aaron not only came out as gay to those around him at the end of his life, but the two women we know had sex with him (Shay, the UofF girl friend), didn't seem shocked by that. No protests of "oh, he was so into pussy, that couldn't possibly be true," nothing like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||12/24/2018|
R164 Not r65 but what you state is slightly misleading. Shay did say something to the effect, “he was all man with me” , which indicates that she considered him at least bisexual. And the Florida girl didn’t say they had didn’t have a perfectly mutually happy sexual relationship..even if she did say he was gay (or that he expiclyb communicate so from prison); again we have the possible and widespread conflation of “bi” with “gay” in the case of ANY homosexual activity. All people are saying is it’s not so clear cut to preclude keeping an open mind
|by Anonymous||reply 165||12/24/2018|
Oops meant Not r163 *
|by Anonymous||reply 166||12/24/2018|
It’s not so clear cut AS to preclude an open mind*
|by Anonymous||reply 167||12/24/2018|
R165 Shay was clearly saving face with that answer, as would any woman in her situation. The real answer was revealed in his brother's book where Aaron tearfully confessed to his mom that he had to be totally drunk to have sex with Shay.
All things considered, Shay was likely a cover for Ryan just like in high school. He got back together with her around the same time he rekindled his relationship with Ryan. Ryan's been priority in his life from the time he got back together with Shay through to his stay in prison.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||12/24/2018|
Ryan seems to have such a different life than AH except for with each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||12/24/2018|
[quote]He's a fascinating, multi-dimensional character. His story is, as someone here said, operatic, full of drama and intensity and sexuality. It's compelling; he's compelling. Every straight person doesn't have to represent something "positive" about straightness; gay people should not be held to a different standard. The only standard should be honesty.
In Layman’s terms, you think he was hot and would’ve wanted to fuck him.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||12/24/2018|
What is it with this “tearfully confessing to his mom” and “he had to be drunk to fuck Shay” shit? So what if his brother put hat in his book? Aaron was batshit and had serious brain issues. He was engaged to a woman, had a kid with her, had been with her since they were kids and he even hit on the female babysitter. He also had another girlfriend in college. Maybe his tearful confession to his mother was one out of confusion and frustration. In the least, he was bi. I really don’t see Shay as the type of chick who would put up with some big dude getting sloppy drunk whenever he wanted to fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||12/24/2018|
Jesus, R45. That made me tear up. And on Christmas Eve, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||12/24/2018|
oh tonight Aaron and i will each unwrap one of our gifts and tommorrow morning with a slight chill in the air but warm under our new HUGG blanket we bought at bedbathbeyond.... we will kiss with passion my only true love Aaron Herandez.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||12/24/2018|
R171, Shay, by her own account, was a total doormat while she lived with Aaron, willing to put up with anything without question.
At some point, though, she checked out of the relationship. In his later phone calls to her, Aaron complains that she’s not taking his calls, that she never says she misses him or loves him. She’d probably found another guy by that point, that’s why she got pregnant within a few months of Aaron’s death.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||12/24/2018|
The “Aaron was bi” Troll is getting tedious. No other celebrity gets questioned when their family days “he was gay,” yet here we are...
|by Anonymous||reply 175||12/24/2018|
"I really don’t see Shay as the type of chick who would put up with some big dude getting sloppy drunk whenever he wanted to fuck."
He was a millionaire. That would be enough for any woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||12/24/2018|
The bible slogan in the cell was directed to Tebow. Not sure what the message was?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||12/24/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 178||12/24/2018|
Don't forget, he was in a gang, he had to fuck lots of women and get do all the "normal" things straight guys did.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||12/24/2018|
Yeah, I'm over the "bi" troll now. The vast majority of us have heard and read everything and concluded that he's gay, not because we need him to be gay, but because we're not fucking stupid. Troll obviously is stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||12/24/2018|
AH is fasinating and tragic on so many levels. No one in 27 years lived so many personas or such fame?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||12/24/2018|
There's beauty in the fact that he's been in love with the same guy since he was 10. Apart from his late cousin Tanya, Ryan's probably the only person who really knew him.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||12/25/2018|
[quote]not because we need him to be gay
|by Anonymous||reply 183||12/25/2018|
If he wasn’t beautiful, this thread would have maxed at 10 posts in thread one.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||12/25/2018|
[quote]There's beauty in the fact that he's been in love with the same guy since he was 10. Apart from his late cousin Tanya, Ryan's probably the only person who really knew him.
The ONLY beauty here is the fact that you have no idea if any of this is actually true BUT you’ve created this soap opera based on allegations and most likely, your untreated psychosis. Now THAT’S beautiful.
Internet people are a trip.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||12/25/2018|
[quote]Yeah, I'm over the "bi" troll now. The vast majority of us have heard and read everything and concluded that he's gay, not because we need him to be gay, Troll obviously is stupid.
Oh, there’s enough stupid to go around here. TRUST. Also, you seem to REALLY need him to be gay. I haven't even checked, but I'm guessing that you're in the top three posters in this thread.
...Just a hunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||12/25/2018|
^Agreed. Let the man rest. He may have been beautiful, but he was in jail for horrific crime. And he was bi. So is Ryan. Fin.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||12/25/2018|
They’ve been in love with each other since ten? What do 10 year old boys know about being in love?
|by Anonymous||reply 188||12/25/2018|
R188, you can't be that stupid. Ten-year olds develop crushes; they sometimes call it falling in love.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||12/25/2018|
A crush is different than legitimately being in love with someone, doll. When you’re ten, you have no concept of or capacity to know what being in love is like.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||12/25/2018|
What a ridiculous statement ^.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||12/25/2018|
^No. A ten year old is a child, who is certainly capable of feeling love, but not capable of being “in love.” There is a difference.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||12/25/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 193||12/25/2018|
Can you block me R 192? Just click the block button if you can. You show up in my watch list. Just click it, that’d be great.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||12/25/2018|
Block you for stating the obvious? I think not.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||12/25/2018|
This is one of the threads that I follow. Sorry if it made anyone crabby that I said he was gay. I am not one of the top three posters to the thread, there are a lot of us.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||12/25/2018|
I have no idea why gay men are so eager to claim this guy. He was a multiple murderer. Pick your battles. Let the bis have this one.
Also, he was trying to sleep with women whilst he already had a 'beard', that's not the behavior of a homosexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||12/25/2018|
Fucking hell. If it helps you sleep better at night then sure he's BI!!!
The gay attorney who worked directly with him for at least 2 years said "this man was clearly gay." You on the other hand have never been in the same zip-code as Aaron but claim with certainty that he's bi. If making him bi spices up your fantasies with him then go ahead!!
|by Anonymous||reply 198||12/25/2018|
R197 He allegedly killed a guy because he knew of his gay secret, threatened to kill his brother after he caught him in bed with two dudes (even though the brother offered his support)...yet you don't think he's capable of overcompensating by hitting on the babysitter?
|by Anonymous||reply 199||12/25/2018|
Merry Christmas!!! Sleigh Ho Sleigh!
Anyone else wish those mics were replaced by massive c**ks *swoon*
|by Anonymous||reply 200||12/25/2018|
Where is the "he was still hitting on women" thing come from? Genuinely curious. I read his brothers book and it talked about how he had to be drunk, staying out late to avoid having to fuck his wife and how he was completely uninterested in the strippers he brought for him and his friend. Yet, he was openly and obviously hitting on male waiters out in LA.
Also the entire Ryan being the "love of his life" this is conflicting. His brother said it was the HS Quarterback and praised him for coming out. I don't even think Ryan was mentioned in the book. And Aaron was definitely having relationships with men outside of Ryan all throughout their lives. Maybe the HS Quarterback was the one he's been in love with since he was 10, but something happened along the way and he decided he wanted nothing to do with Aaron? Maybe Ryan was the backup piece because he was the only other one who really know about Aaron at the time and stuck around?
|by Anonymous||reply 201||12/25/2018|
R201, did Jonathan say that the HS quarterback was the love of Aaron’s life? That would be surprising, since the HS quarterback doesn’t fit the clues Aaron gave about his “love’s” identity. The man he described was a part of Aaron’s life through college and the NFL; Aaron says he saw him frequently during his time as a professional player. Aaron also emphasized in a text to Ryan that he had met Ryan when they were 10; he used that specific detail again when describing his “love” to his mother. Jonathan may have gone out of his way not to mention Ryan because he didn’t want to out him.
As for Aaron’s regular search for dick, I guess that’s just who he was. It’s not as though he felt he could openly live with another man; he seemed sure that his professional career would end if he came out.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||12/25/2018|
r202 If I recall correctly, his brother was on Dr. Phil or something when talking about the love of Aaron's life and the QB came out a few days later and his brother congratulated him on being brave enough to come out.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||12/25/2018|
I reckon Denis Sansoucie & Ryan McDonnell were “the two High School friends” that his brother caught him in bed with at his brother’s bachelor party. Wonder if Denis & Ryan had a lil’ thing going on too with Aaron spurring them on like the super freak he is...yasssss! R203 is correct on the time of events. Ryan was Aaron’s love of his life. And Denis was just the high school fling.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||12/25/2018|
Read his brother’s book and nowhere does he mention a high school quarterback so not sure what R201 is talking about. Whatever he had with Dennis ended in high school and in Dennis’ own words they were never serious.
The relationship Aaron had with his “true love” started before they were teenagers and progressed through his engagement to Shayanna. Once he got drafted he called the guy everyday...we know he became “very very close” to Ryan around this time and was on the phone with him everyday more than once a day. He also considered leaving the league for this guy and starting a life together...he made plans to move to California with Ryan (before the life sentence).
Michele Mcphee practically outed Ryan as the longtime high school lover.
Basically before his arrest he set up 3 financial accounts. One for Shay, another for his daughter, and the 3rd one (the one that held the most money) was for the high school lover. This caught the eye of investigators and the lover was forced to testify in front of a grand jury. She then adds that the lover was also a witness in the Boston trial (at this point she could have just said Ryan).
She also said the guy was interviewed by fox25 immediately after the arrest...Ryan was the only one interviewed by Fox25 after the arrest.
It's very clear Ryan was the guy from his childhood he eventually became serious about.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||12/25/2018|
r205 Huh. Dennis stated publicly that him and Aaron started their relationship in middle school (see link). Jonathan talked to Dr. Phil about his brother's true love being somebody he knew since they were young. Dennis came out a few days later and Jonathan congratulated him, if I'm remembering correctly.
There's no actual legitimate info on when Ryan and Aaron started, even if they've known each other longer. All we know is they became a lot closer after Aaron got drafted. For all we know, Ryan only started throwing that pussy on him after he got to the league like every other groupie. But Dennis and Aaron being a thing has been legitimized by Dennis and Jonathan.
Dennis never said when or why he stopped talking to Aaron. A world of possibilities. He could've been Aaron's true love and only continued with Ryan after they broke it off. Dennis was probably the one that got away.
Anyway, I'm just bringing another angle into this story. None of us really know anything for sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||12/25/2018|
Even the lawyers can't seem to keep a straight story. The title says bisexual but the body of the article says gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||12/25/2018|
Jesus Christ, kill it with the bisexual shtick. Bisexual men don't need to get sloppy drunk to have sex with women. Bisexual men don't get bored at the sight and feel of a big booty stripper grinding on their big pinga through their basketball shorts.
He was a closeted gay man with a beard who he loved in a platonic way. It was all a cover.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||12/25/2018|
R206 Did you listen to Ryan's testimony? He said under oath that they developed a close relationship in middle school (6th through 8th), and would see each other approximately everyday (going over each other's houses).
This was Aaron's text to Ryan( he was trying to be playful):
“Hi I’m Aaron Hernandez I met u when I was 10. I was just on Internet trying to find people from my graduating class and came across u! Long time no see or talk so give me a call if u remember me whenever. I was gonna write u some LETTERS but found ur number so decided I should text. Hope to hear from u in the next decade. Peaaaccceee.’’
This was a text from Ryan's dad to Aaron:
"“I think your the best I always did except when you went to Florida and maybe a few times...I hope you know that I was always [expletive] with you when you were a kid if I didn’t like you you would have known it we have always loved you and having you around except when you would call every 5 seconds.’’
From the dad's text alone we can conclude Aaron was very attached to Ryan's family from an early age
|by Anonymous||reply 209||12/25/2018|
I should've tried to seduce some bi football players in high school too, if they weren't such doucebags, so I could mooch off them years later if they hit the big leagues. Ryan should teach a course on bagging a baller.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||12/25/2018|
r209 I'm not doubting they were longtime friends, I'm just saying we know for a fact that Aaron and Dennis were fucking since middle school, but it hasn't been legitimized when him and Ryan started. Maybe Ryan knew about Aaron but wasn't down with that type of action at the time but still wanted to be friends. Maybe they only started after Aaron got drafted and Aaron was sprung off that pussy he's been trying to get since high school. But Dennis could've still been the one that got away. Probably didn't want to share Aaron with Shay in high school and separated from him by going to the Marines. Endless possibilities if you're creative enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||12/25/2018|
Pretty much agree with you R185. This thread is NUTS and reads like a fan fiction made soap opera. Nobody knows these people, it's all speculation. That said, I have a hard time believing Ryan's wife would marry him and her family being supportive of said marriage if he was in a sexual relationship with Aaron. I believe the wife and family know more than we do. He's being outed by the DM as Aaron's gay lover and it's so wrong because there is zero proof. If proof comes out, I'll gladly change my opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||12/25/2018|
R212 Stop trolling
|by Anonymous||reply 213||12/25/2018|
R213 = head writer of Aaron/Ryan fan fic.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||12/25/2018|
R214 The fic writes itself.
If given the chance I'd rewrite it and exclude the suicide part and instead have Ryan/Aaron live happily ever after in California. And this time instead of reciting the lyrics to a love song, he actually sings it to him.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||12/25/2018|
This stuff is so far from fan fiction.
It's not wish fulfillment, its just speculation based on some solid facts, trying to fill in the gaps of a heart-breaking situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||12/25/2018|
R216 totally accurate. While Ryan seems like the love of AH's life, Denis knows the real story as does baby moma Shea. Sherlock Holms, Agatha Christie and Murder She Wrote Star would have a tough time with this one! P.S. Brother who wrote recent book also must "know all."
|by Anonymous||reply 217||12/26/2018|
never seen a thread with so much bullshit
|by Anonymous||reply 218||12/26/2018|
[quote]I’d love to watch them doing bro stuff to each other.
Pretty sure that's necrophilia, weirdo!
|by Anonymous||reply 219||12/26/2018|
[quote]Aaron was sprung off that pussy he's been trying to get since high school
|by Anonymous||reply 220||12/26/2018|
[quote]never seen a thread with so much bullshit
Whatever gurl. Its all bullshit to you until Radar comes with the receipts confirming what we thought all along.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||12/26/2018|
The “he’s straight” trolls are furious with Radar.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||12/26/2018|
I don't get the hostility. Most of this stuff is in the public record.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||12/26/2018|
Hostility from the people who can’t take that AH is gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 224||12/26/2018|
R218 Bye Felicia!
|by Anonymous||reply 225||12/26/2018|
Pining for more Radar receipts, Chile.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||12/27/2018|
Agent's wife here with a thought> please don't flame me for just giving a possible explanation for all the "he's gay/he's bi/he's gay" shit.
Many straight people seem to believe that if a man has love and or sex with another man he is gay. I would say 90% feel that way;
But as we read from our bi friend up thread(the one with the touching story about Prom night when his straight bud helped him prepare for his date) that is not always the case. He explained that even within gay culture there is a bit of confusion as to "what makes a ostensibly man bi?" Is it his ability to perform with a woman? Or is it his having genuine lusty attraction for a woman? Are his attractions equal or does he really prefer one over the other?
Then we are told many times here @DL that gay men have been marrying and having children since time began, so it really proves nothing.
Well, it could well mean nothing, but it does mean that at least said man isn't physically ill at the thought of having sex with a woman, which in itself is fairly uncommon among Data Loungers. I'm not saying that the ability to do that makes one bi, but you can understand why "laymen" [html removed] might think so. I think this line of thought is why the article states gay and then later bi. And as for Aaron's gay attorney who spoke openly about Aaron's same sex attraction, I truly don't think that he meant to exclude Shay from having been the recipient of Aaron's affection by stating that AH said he was gay. That we be a pretty cruel thing to do, and I don't believe he would publicly intentionally hurt her in that way. I think he simply mean that Aaron confessed to having a desire for men...a desire which he had definitely acted upon.
I have a gut feeling that Aaron was gay, not bi. But I also have a gut feeling that Ryan IS genuinely bi if there is such a thing. First of all his now wife is a doll(by Bristol standards) and most gay men who are trying to fake heterosexuality tend to select a rather plain undemanding girl so he will not be expected to perform frequently. The sort of "relationship" Aaron had with the girl in Gainesville is a perfect example. She is homely, so the idea of having a sexy star football player for a boyfriend is so enticing she will ask little in return.
That would not be the case wit Ryan and his wife. Clearly she could bag a number of decent Bristolites(if that is the term) and she is not playing above her head with Ryan. They showed some very believable chemistry in that video--far more believable than the typical movie star-beard PDA. Yep. I do believe that they have a typical married sex life(which means it's not hot, sweaty and wild, bit it is semi-regular and not unpleasant for either.)
I am not promoting either theory(bi or straight) but I am throwing some thoughts out there for consideration.
For the record, we represent two players who are gay-bi but they are obviously closeted. Naturally I neither could nor would reveal anything or even hint at identity, but I wanted to confirm what most of you suspect: Aaron was not alone. Oh, and both of the dudes are married with children.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||12/27/2018|
^ Damn Gina...if only you could spill more tea on the other 2 players you represent.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||12/27/2018|
r227 i love your posts. i’d love them more if you could set me up with the more attractive of these two players.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||12/27/2018|
R229 You are too kind,
Especially considering all the heinous typos in my post.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||12/27/2018|
R227 I agree, that's a nice, thoughtful post. In my mind, having the "genuine lusty attraction to women" is the only thing that would make you bi. All that other stuff doesn't speak to sexual orientation.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||12/27/2018|
I believe they got away with a lot primarily because they were "childhood friends." Had they met later in life and grew very close, alarm bells would have gone off like crazy. There's also the fact that neither of them fit the stereotype for gay people in terms of mannerisms, interests, occupations, etc (esp Aaron).
Thinking about it though, no media outlet (prior to radaronline) had explicitly outed Ryan; Radar's articles have only been out for about a month. He could deny Michele Mcphee's comments, the dailymail's 'hint-hint' article, but he can't deny the audio recordings.
How shattering and embarrassing for the wife? From her Facebook she seems quite in love and eager to share it. Unfortunately now the whole world knows the guy's been physically/emotionally cheating on her possibly throughout the relationship.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||12/27/2018|
R232 what is her Facebook profile name?
|by Anonymous||reply 233||12/28/2018|
R233 Dana Lynn
|by Anonymous||reply 234||12/28/2018|
r234 aaand, there goes this thread
|by Anonymous||reply 235||12/28/2018|
Well, it's still here, R235, but it's worth remembering that Ryan's wife is not a public figure. We know next to nothing about her. There's still a lot we don't know about Ryan himself, and may never know.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||12/28/2018|
We’re still here though R235
Anyways in light of NYE in a couple of days... here’s Aaron jokingly persuading Gronko to make out with his friend on NYE 😜
|by Anonymous||reply 237||12/29/2018|
wow, aaron was my perfect type. but since i have spent almost 30yrs stalking and then finally getting my perfect type so many times. i know how it ends. you get them. you spend some time with them. you have some great sex, sometimes and then very hot men like that are just so needy and high maintenance you spend alot of time trying to figure out how to get rid of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||12/29/2018|
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|by Anonymous||reply 240||12/31/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 241||12/31/2018|
I loved this thread, but we have beaten this dead horse. Hopefully some new details come out soon!
|by Anonymous||reply 242||12/31/2018|
AH Is the Jim Morrison of football.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||12/31/2018|
See my last post....
|by Anonymous||reply 244||12/31/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 245||01/01/2019|
The wife deleted (or privated) her facebook account...
|by Anonymous||reply 246||01/01/2019|
R246, I'm surprised that it took her this long. Can you tell when she did it?
|by Anonymous||reply 247||01/01/2019|
^ Couldn't have been more than a couple days ago
|by Anonymous||reply 248||01/01/2019|
Is Bradley still in jail? Ryan and Bradley are our only hope for new tea, besides more prison calls being released.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||01/01/2019|
What about Kyle?
|by Anonymous||reply 250||01/02/2019|
For what it’s worth, I looked up Kyle Kennedy, Aaron’s prision sidepiece, in a database of Massachusetts prisoners. He’s now in Old Colony Correctional Facility, a medium-security place. He got sent to Aaron’s max security prison for escaping from a minimum security place. Maybe he was released and did something stupid and was arrested again, or maybe he was simply transferred.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||01/02/2019|
Can’t wait for this if FX make a bio pic series on Aaron! So was thinking if ever a film was to be made Brendan Schuab should play him
|by Anonymous||reply 252||01/02/2019|
R251, should we write him a letter?
|by Anonymous||reply 253||01/02/2019|
^OMG do it! R253 R251
|by Anonymous||reply 254||01/02/2019|
If you post the address here for our convenience, maybe a few of us can send him a encouraging notes...
|by Anonymous||reply 255||01/02/2019|
FX is gonna fuck it up. There won’t be any good gay sex and they’re certainly not going to portray Aaron and Ryan as lovers.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||01/02/2019|
r256 Brendan Schaub in even a simulated gay sex scene just might send me to the funny farm. I’ve wanted him since he appeared in Ultimate Fighter in 2010.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||01/02/2019|
R256 Sadly I agree. I do see them exaggerating whatever he had with Dennis since he's out and willing to talk. It's really unfortunate that Ryan's chosen to remain silent. I just read recently that at least for the first few weeks after his arrest Aaron almost exclusively called Ryan. No doubt in my mind Ryan played a critical role in his life.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||01/02/2019|
I wonder if Kyle can read DataLounge in prison, and can he respond here and maybe shed some light...
|by Anonymous||reply 259||01/02/2019|
I’d put Ryan in there anyway, R258. I’d just leave off his last name or change it to “Cody” or some shit. But you gotta have balls to do it.
I wouldn’t want to make this movie anyway cause the ending is so sad and tragic. Yet another gay love story that makes homosexuality seem like the road to an early grave. Meanwhile what do I do with Ryan? He survives walking off with his wife hand in hand? Talk about a fucked up message. It will bring a blissful tear to Pat Robertson’s eye, for sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||01/02/2019|
Kyle is in custody at this fine establishment; it's in Bridgewater. His inmate ID # is W107335. If anyone is tempted, remember the drill: don't give out your home address or phone number. I'm sure Kyle personally is harmless, but be careful anyway. Put the inmate # on the outside of any correspondence. Never ask anyone why they are in prison, it's considered rude. Besides, they are always innocent. (How do I know this? I'm a lawyer, I've dealt with prisoners. Some of them become quite decent litigators in prison.)
|by Anonymous||reply 261||01/02/2019|
R257 Ugh he’s SO hawt!!!! Even Aaron would’ve I bet! *swoon*
|by Anonymous||reply 262||01/03/2019|
Yeah I’m just despo for more tea on Aaron. FX will def make it a hot mess *sigh* Wish Ryan would tell his story!
|by Anonymous||reply 263||01/03/2019|
Yas R261! Delivering the goodies. Right who’s gon write to Miss Kennedy?
|by Anonymous||reply 264||01/03/2019|
Miss Kennedy? Is she still in mourning?
|by Anonymous||reply 265||01/03/2019|
Jeez, you all are still jacking off to this story?
|by Anonymous||reply 266||01/03/2019|
It’s 2019, people. Move on.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||01/03/2019|
Are we just going to ignore Aaron's hairline, though. Sometimes, there's just too much.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||01/03/2019|
His hairline is so boss. He was overflowing with testosterone and muscle and alpha sweat.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||01/03/2019|
R269 Thanks for the image...damn he was fine!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 270||01/03/2019|
Kyle Kennedy when he first saw Aaron on that cell block:
|by Anonymous||reply 271||01/03/2019|
R266 R267 Buhbye Bish....GTFO of this thread if you don’t appreciate the fan gurling.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||01/04/2019|
R268 He had a strong hairline....love a widow’s peak. He was so damn fine
|by Anonymous||reply 273||01/04/2019|
#FlashbackFriday Let’s not forget who Zaddy was.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||01/04/2019|
my man pieces get wet just looking at Aarons pictures..........too bad they could not have preserved the body
|by Anonymous||reply 275||01/04/2019|
^ R275 My burning loins chile! Mucho Caliente!
|by Anonymous||reply 276||01/04/2019|
why queens say the same shit on this bozo thread. weird
publish only nudies of him, otherwise, fukkoff
|by Anonymous||reply 277||01/04/2019|
op farts every ten minutes.....unreal smell....like dead for a week pussy.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||01/05/2019|
Is that you Ryan?
|by Anonymous||reply 279||01/05/2019|
R279 OMG, I was thinking we were getting trolled by Ryan too! Lol
|by Anonymous||reply 280||01/05/2019|
R280, but Ryan seems too cluelessly sweet-natured. Other people connected with this story, maybe less so.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||01/06/2019|
[quote]Ryan seems too cluelessly sweet-natured
Hunny, those are sometimes the most sinister ones 😈
Im still not 100% sold that he wasn't playing his position to get paid
|by Anonymous||reply 282||01/06/2019|
From the little we know about Ryan I can tell he cared deeply for Aaron and wanted the best for him (it's obvious Aaron knew this too). I don't believe he asked for the PA job, the large deposits, or the paid vacation for his parents; I believe Aaron did these things because he was in love and felt a natural desire to make Ryan comfortable/happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||01/07/2019|
Great post, r283!
|by Anonymous||reply 284||01/07/2019|
Ryan and his wife have deleted their social media accounts. His family doesn't mention him. The wife and her family have scrubbed their social media accounts. They've even deleted posts that mentioned her or Ryan.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||01/07/2019|
What about that video they made on YouTube?
Btw I’m not aware that Ryan had any social media accounts. At least no one here has mentioned or posted a link to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||01/07/2019|
Tmz in WeHo exiting Bbq....
|by Anonymous||reply 287||01/07/2019|
The wife reinstated her Facebook...but this time without her place of work and the option to friend request. But her message option's still available. Looks like she's ready to exchange a few words with anyone who comes at her.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||01/08/2019|
Seems like she's been getting a lot of messages about her hubby's "close relationship" with the infamous Aaron Hernandez. I wonder how the whole play-dumb-about-my-husbands-sexuality-to-keep-up-a-good-image thing goes when the object of her distress makes national news.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||01/08/2019|
I wonder what she thinks about Aaron.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||01/09/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 291||01/09/2019|
Anyone else feel like Ryan was too forthcoming with information on the stand? For instance Aaron had this abbriaviation tattooed on his hand: CBS/WBS/IWBTG. Ryan was asked if he knew what it stood for and he confidently (almost...eagerly) provided a response. Apparently it means "can't be stopped/won't be stopped/I will be the greatest."
An "I do not recall" response is perfectly reasonable in this situation. I mean who really expects him to remember the meaning behind such a long abbreviation??
Is he just a bad liar? Did he cut some type of deal with the prosecution (cooperation=no outright outing)? Is it nerves?
Aaron's thug friends and Shay would deny knowing his name if they could!
|by Anonymous||reply 292||01/09/2019|
Don't forget, there are pre-trial interviews so he musy have known that question would come up
|by Anonymous||reply 293||01/09/2019|
Ryan was not a thug pre-programmed to lie, cheat, and disobey the law. He was a good, holesome boy. He was pure. And that’s why Aaron loved him. When they laid up together cuddling for hours and talking, it removed Aaron from all the demons haunting his mind. Ryan was Aaron’s sanctuary.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||01/10/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 295||01/10/2019|
'Holesome' Paging Dr Freud!
|by Anonymous||reply 296||01/10/2019|
Exactly. Holesome! That’s why Aaron loved him.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||01/10/2019|
I imagine the cuddling came right after sex. No way a stallion like Aaron goes over to cuddle and go home.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||01/11/2019|
I'm in desperate need for new leaked recordings. I bet once the movie comes out Radar will have a renewed incentive to purchase more tapes
|by Anonymous||reply 299||01/11/2019|
Weren’t the tapes released by the police?
|by Anonymous||reply 300||01/11/2019|
R300, not all of them. Massachusetts would not release any of the recordings that were made after Aaron was sent to a maximum security prison following his acquittal on the double murder charges. (Obviously, he had to start serving his sentence for killing Odin Lloyd). The Boston Globe asked for those recordings, but the request was refused. Someone in law enforcement apparently sold at least one of the recordings to Radar, but there are, presumably, still many more.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||01/11/2019|
Among those recordings, btw, should be the conversation Aaron had with his mother telling her he was gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||01/11/2019|
Ryan is a bigger mystery than AH!
|by Anonymous||reply 303||01/13/2019|
R303 If only they'd release more tapes...in full! I looked up the wife's facebook and it's gone again. I doubt there's enough regular people who care enough to harass her, so I'm guessing it's the media.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||01/13/2019|
Holesome Aaron's thug meat.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||01/13/2019|
Ryan is s bigger mystery than AH!
|by Anonymous||reply 306||01/13/2019|
Does Ryan miss that r305 or happy with P.???
|by Anonymous||reply 307||01/13/2019|
How did Aaron protect his junk if, like in R305, it was always hanging to the left. Too big to be contained in one jock.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||01/14/2019|
We'll just have to ask Ryan, r 308....
|by Anonymous||reply 309||01/17/2019|
[QUOTE]I imagine the cuddling came right after sex. No way a stallion like Aaron goes over to cuddle and go home.
I’m also a stallion top, and sometimes I just need a good cuddle without sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||01/18/2019|
for Oscar consideration
|by Anonymous||reply 311||01/19/2019|
Cheyanne Jackson should be casted as Aaron Hernandez. Andy Randells should be casted as the male lover.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||01/19/2019|
Too fem for Ryan. Need a masculine dudebro
|by Anonymous||reply 313||01/19/2019|
Has there been a porn adaptation with lookalikes, etc?
|by Anonymous||reply 314||01/19/2019|
It’s hard to find someone who really resembles Aaron Hernandez.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||01/19/2019|
The old guy has connections to Ryan's family (not sure of the exact relation)
|by Anonymous||reply 316||01/19/2019|
Ryan remains a mystery but I can't help feeling bad for the guy
Michele's Newsweek article (on Aaron's sexuality) was up within days of his suicide. She then went on radio shows with comments that practically outed Ryan as his lover. At this point Ryan's not only dealing with the sudden death of a loved one, but also rumors about his own sexuality.
He can't grief Aaron too openly or even postpone the wedding, because that'll only give people more reason to speculate. He's forced to carry on as if nothing happened.
Now audio recordings of their conversations have been made public, conversations that leave no doubt as to the nature of their relationship. Everyone feels betrayed and he faces alienation from some of his close friends and family
Quiet and lowkey Ryan is now known as the guy who got married two months after his longtime gay lover died. The guy who cheated on his girlfriend for years before marriage.
This is why he should write a tell all. At this point he's got nothing else to lose but money to gain!
|by Anonymous||reply 317||01/21/2019|
Ryan seems to have the gift of inspiring intense protectiveness in people, though. Aaron certainly felt that way about him, and now Ryan's wife and family seem to have circled the Facebook wagons around him to stop people from bothering him (R285, R288). This saga has such a cast of characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||01/21/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 319||01/21/2019|
Someone needs to make this story into a movie. Has anyone bought the movie rights yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 320||01/21/2019|
[quote]Ryan's wife and family seem to have circled the Facebook wagons around him to stop people from bothering him.
How sweet of them. Doesn't change the fact that Aaron dicked him down giving him a big ol' gaping hole that's never recovered.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||01/21/2019|
His Dad refers to his son as Ry Ry when talking to Aaron. As stated above, this tight knit Irish Catholic family was a refuge from a Hot Rican Italian family full of domestic drama. Ryan was the Apple of Aaron's eye. He is doe-like and sweet as is the new fraud wife. Very insulated from world Aaron had a foot in, and protected from per Aaron's 'world' to Ryan's father.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||01/21/2019|
Aaron felt Ryan's calm Irish family was a refuge from the hot Rican Italian family he grew up in. He told Ryan's Dad he would protect Ry Ry ( family Nick name) from his thug world. Ryan and his wife seem very sweet and " insulated" from hash realities of thug world or NFL gangsta money status / life
|by Anonymous||reply 323||01/21/2019|
if I were Ryan's wife I'd be more hurt by the California conversation than anything else. It wasn't just wishful thinking, since the convo happened just two weeks after his arrest At that point there was still hope that he could be found not guilty. It also sounded like something they'd discussed either prior to his arrest or that visit.
The mere fact that he was planning a future with Aaron, a presumed murderer, tells me Ryan didn't give a fuck what anyone had to say. Dude was in love!
|by Anonymous||reply 324||01/21/2019|
You can literally feel the polar personalities through this picture. Aaron's very clearly the life of the party and Ryan's the kid who never initiates conversation. They make an oddly cute couple..I can't stop staring at the picture.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||01/21/2019|
Ryan all over that neck...
|by Anonymous||reply 326||01/21/2019|
Frau wife not fraud wife above...
|by Anonymous||reply 327||01/22/2019|
R325, The ex marine classmate boyfriend is cropped out of your pic above. Aaron was close to both men at the same and different times.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||01/22/2019|
Ryan looks like a cute baby dyke at R325..
|by Anonymous||reply 329||01/22/2019|
[quote]Now audio recordings of their conversations have been made public, conversations that leave no doubt as to the nature of their relationship
Are you referring to the ones that came out last year? Not aware of any new ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||01/22/2019|
R330 Yeah, the ones that came out in Nov
|by Anonymous||reply 331||01/22/2019|
R328 The ex-marine (Dennis) wasn't in the original picture as you can see below. The cropped image in R325 actually came from a dailymail article on Aaron's childhood. Ryan wasn't mentioned anywhere, but that cropped image was introduced right when they started talking about Aaron's sexuality.
When you kinda put the pieces together, it sounds like he started a sexual relationship with Dennis in middle school but was only cuddle buddies with Ryan during that time. And when they got older (presumably in high school) he started "fooling around" with Ryan.
Dennis stated firmly that they didn't consider themselves a couple; just two bros who fucked occasionally and smoked a lot of weed.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||01/22/2019|
Who is the 4th guy in the pic. Next to Ryan?
|by Anonymous||reply 333||01/22/2019|
Both Aaron and Ryan where with high school sweethearts. I think that the women may have suspected stuff. But once they separarted the relationship would end. Only when Aaron reconnected with Ryan, and their passion really flared up, did the woman really know what was going on. Ryan's wife can't divorce him or else that makes Ryan gay. That would probably ruin him. Better to stay friends , have a baby, and live a normal life. Maybe Ryan was only gay with Aaron. I have known many men who were only gay with one other person. A few were married. That's where we part ways R317. I think the wife knew all along. And the family. But yes he probably did lose a few friends. And so it goes.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||01/22/2019|
I had a married uncle - 50's - 70's - who had a male side piece for years, since they were teens. Otherwise he was straight - say the family gossips. But who knows. I also had an aunt, same time period, who left her husband AND KIDS with husband to shack up for 10 years across town in her lesbian lovers house, then she went back home, and apparently never had another girlfriend. All Catholic.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||01/22/2019|
Imagine the stories Tim Tebow must know from being a roomie "mentor."!
|by Anonymous||reply 336||01/22/2019|
I was a fan of Ryan until that putrid karaoke video his then-girlfriend made. It screamed “LOOK HOW STRAIGHT I AM WITH MY GIRL!!! WE ARE SO IN LOVE11!!!1!1!1”
Fuck his closeted ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||01/22/2019|
lol r337. The video was cute. I just imagined him bouncing on Aaron's dick to Keith Urban
|by Anonymous||reply 338||01/22/2019|
r338 Ryan DID NOT have control over the sex playlists. It only consisted of the most ignorant, hardcore, gangsta rap.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||01/22/2019|
look at Ryan in the center...no wonder Aaron wanted to leave the NFL for him!
|by Anonymous||reply 340||01/22/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 341||01/22/2019|
How do you date a woman for 10 years, travel and fool around with a NFL Star who professes love and ignores baby-mama for you and commits suicide in Prison for Murder and pose for casual family photos like living on a picnic?
This story makes film Brokeback Mountain look Quaint!
|by Anonymous||reply 342||01/22/2019|
r342, this why as cute as I think Ryan is, I still can't help but think he may have been playing along with Aaron, mostly for the coins. I mean their lives and interests could not be more different. I just put myself in Ryan's shoes. If I had a old friend who made it big in the NFL and was obsessed me, and all I had to do was give up my hole for some handouts, I probably wouldn't get in my feelings either.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||01/22/2019|
Ryan said on tape he wanted to move to Calufornia with AH after prison over after murder trial and was Mad at AH for messing up. He was loyal and mad. AH gets "prison boyfriend" who may have comitted crimes to get locked up and put in the Same Cell and succeeds! This is beyond belief if it were not true! AH and Tim Tebow roomates in College and AH with baby mama h.s. girlfriend, h.s. boyfriend, Masters Degree Coach brother, multiple shooting victims, NFL Team Owner, agents, managers, 10 million dollar contract, million dollar house and he is happy in his prison cell expecting to get out and play football in CA. There will NEVER be a story quite like this EVER again and even a wedding.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||01/22/2019|
Lens Dunham will be AH in the movie, and that fabulous actress Zosia Mamet will be Ryan. Mark my word!
|by Anonymous||reply 345||01/23/2019|
Is AH and family still in the news in New England? What dies Ryan do to support his wife? AH left him money. Does he have contact with AH baby mama?
How could one film ever cover all the nuances of this mans short life in 2 or 3 hours?
|by Anonymous||reply 346||01/23/2019|
"AH gets "prison boyfriend" who may have comitted crimes to get locked up and put in the Same Cell and succeeds! This is beyond belief if it were not true!"
This is the tea I want. From Kyle. Because you know Ryan isn't going to spill a damn thing. All we can hope for is that Kyle needs a lot of ca$h when he's finally out of the clink! I'm hoping he spills every detail!
|by Anonymous||reply 347||01/23/2019|
R342 those pictures in R340 and R341 were taken before Aaron's suicide. There's barely any pictures of him out there if you don't count the wedding day.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||01/23/2019|
R337-though I didn't like the video-Horrible Keith Urban song- I still don't believe he is being phony. He may see himself as two men-Aaron's boy, and his wife to be man's. One of the things you can see in the video is that he wasn't always happy with her. An argument over Aaron? Don't forget they all attended the same high school I think. And I don't Ryan was close to Aaron because of money. He was fucking him long before he was rich. The testimony in court makes it clear that at some point there was a breakup, a makeup, and then they were close until Aaron died. It is odd that Aaron- based on his pictures- is the only person of color in his life. And Ryan's life was drifting when Aaron hired him as a personal assistant. Do you know anyone else that Aaron would trust to be that close . It's clear even the people around them thought and talked about their relationship. People see things. They noticed the way they interacted. Aaron was brazen enough to read a song to Ryan in jail. You can't tell me he didn't reveal that love in other open ways? I still wonder about the CTE and what part it played in Aaron's life.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||01/23/2019|
R349 I think his fiancee definitely knew. Aaron was too impulsive and not the brightest tool in the shed. He openly flirted with a male bartender and was caught in bed with two dudes at his brother's party. Shayanna may love money, but she's certainly not dumb. She likely confided in her sister about Ryan, the sister told Lloyd, who then taunted Aaron with the info leading to his murder.
We can't tell if Ryan's family had their suspicions, but we do know the dad was definitely aware of how much Aaron loved his son. I mean he and Aaron had a very strong relationship but when Aaron wanted to fund a vacation for him and his wife, he accused him of only doing it to please Ryan...
Because so many people believe all gay men are effeminate, Aaron probably did a lot of suspicious things that went over people's heads.
|by Anonymous||reply 350||01/23/2019|
R347, That would give new meaning to "unfiltered!" The final outcome aside, the entire prison relationship and intensity seems XXX Rated.
There is strong sexuality or blow-back (No Pun Intended) in almost all of AH's relationships!
|by Anonymous||reply 351||01/23/2019|
R343 In romantic relationships hobbies and interests don't always align...that's what friendships are for. One thing some of y'all seem to be missing is that Aaron was far from a thug with Ryan. Ryan's Aaron recites cheesy romantic lyrics to him, loves to cuddle, cares about his well-being, comes to his rescue (PA job) , treats his family well, takes him on vacations, etc.
Aaron was himself with him; that level of vulnerability he showed in the first phone call isn't something he'd ever do with any of his thug/football friends.
Also Ryan sounded bitter when Aaron said he could only speak to him for 30 minutes on the phone everyday. More reason why I don't think he was in it for money.
We expect Ryan to come out, divorce his wife, and end the charade, but that could mean losing everything. If Aaron were alive and free this might be easier, b/c at least he's with someone he loves and knows loves him.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||01/23/2019|
^You’re waxing poetic about a murderer.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||01/23/2019|
I think Ryan will settle into "family life." So much life and death drama, court cases involving him and his Dad who treated Aaron like family and the exposure of AH dark criminal activities in the media and small town must be like dream which turned into public nightmare. Plus Kyle entering prison situation and friend's (boyfriend? DL boyfriend?) suicide. A wife and simplier friends a very logical alternative. I doubt he would get warm reaction if he did come out publically. Ie. "Let Sleeping dogs lie."
|by Anonymous||reply 354||01/23/2019|
[quote]You’re waxing poetic about a murderer.
He didn’t murder anybody. There’s no proof.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||01/23/2019|
Aaron was Rican and Italian + a Scorpio. Hot Hot Hot!
|by Anonymous||reply 356||01/23/2019|
r355, seriously? Who the fuck else do you think murdered Odin Lloyd?
|by Anonymous||reply 357||01/23/2019|
[quote]He didn’t murder anybody. There’s no proof.
He shot his best friend, Bradley, in the face!
|by Anonymous||reply 358||01/23/2019|
R358, and Bradley said he was "Left on side of the road to die." Even after that and sueing AH, he said, "I still love you, man." AH had a "crazy" charisma like very few others...
|by Anonymous||reply 359||01/23/2019|
[quote]He didn’t murder anybody. There’s no proof.
Stop thinking with your penis for a fucking second and come back to reality. Aaron Hernandez was good looking, well built and athletic is true, but he was also a murderer, irrefutably.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||01/23/2019|
R360, not an issue for Kyle K...
|by Anonymous||reply 361||01/23/2019|
Just got done reading Baez's book. Basically Aaron had this female pen pal who'd write him letters and put money in his account. Nearing his double-murder trial, he came out to her in a letter telling her that he had feelings for men and that made him angry. The prosecution wanted to put her on the stand to argue that Aaron's inability to accept his sexuality drove him to murder. The defense was not having any of it. They threatened to bring out the entire LGBT community if they pursued this strategy of outing Aaron.
Ryan's questioning would have been a bit more in-depth if not for the defense crying foul; the prosecution initially intended to weaken Shay's loyalty to Aaron through Ryan. Could explain why they asked her "details" about Costa Rica but not Ryan(who was there). They even asked if she knew about Ryan/Aaron rekindling their friendship after he got drafted. I guess out of fear of public backlash they weren't more direct with what they wanted to do.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||01/25/2019|
I honestly buy the narrative that his anger due to his sexuality drove him to kill. I mean he literally killed those two strangers the next day after Costa Rica, a trip that was possibly the gayest experience of his life! He spent 6 nights alone with a guy we know he had strong feelings for. When they returned I believe he felt much less of a man and more pressure to prove his masculinity, so when that guy spilled a drink on him and didn't apologize, he thought the guy saw right through him and he felt threatened.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||01/25/2019|
How did Ryan reconcile having girlfriend and boyfriend with a kid and still want primary relationship with AH? It's like they both lived in a Bubble together separate from the lives they were actually Living. Isn't that what a marriage is?
|by Anonymous||reply 364||01/25/2019|
Whats the Baez book?
|by Anonymous||reply 365||01/25/2019|
Never mind, i found it, surprisingly it wasn't on his website lol.
Should I read the whole thing, or are there particular parts of interest...?
|by Anonymous||reply 366||01/25/2019|
R327 Thank you for that correction. While I have no particular feelings for the girl, I winced at the term "fraud wife." She seems pretty innocent in this whole saga, and regardless of how much we may fantasize and speculate about what might have been with R and AH, I still feel a bit sad for her. I am not even sure why. If I had never seen that corny video they made together I doubt I would care a whit. But after seeing it I honestly feel that their relationship was not a complete lie. His heart and passion may well have been Aaron, but I imagine that he is very fond of the mother of his kid. I am thinking about how I feel about an ex with whom I broke up amicably. I don't really want to have sex with him, but I still have some warm feelings for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 367||01/25/2019|
I’d spread my legs for that huge Latin cock 24/7.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||01/25/2019|
I agree with the person up thread who said that the two sides of Aaron were like night and say. There is no arguing that he was a thug. And I think that to some degree he enjoyed being a thug.
But then he also was the lovey-doveyish cornball romantic I have ever seen a man be. He was capable of letting his entire street persona down and speaking as vulnerably as a teen aged girl in puppy love for the first time. He was never fronting tough with Ryan.
As long as we are all madly speculating, I wonder if "good boy" Ryan secretly enjoyed the idea that his man was a genuine tough guy who was capable of protecting him from just about anything or anyone? Was he turned on by Aaron's uber masculine side as well as his lovey dovey side?
I am ashamed to admit that even I am starting to play with the idea that maybe he was not the one who fired the shots at Odin Lloyd. Yeah, I know, highly unlikely. But it is not all together impossible.
|by Anonymous||reply 369||01/25/2019|
R366 chapters 19/20 touches on the gay
|by Anonymous||reply 370||01/25/2019|
Did Ryan ever *taste * Aaron?
|by Anonymous||reply 371||01/25/2019|
Did Ryan get to Taste AH?
|by Anonymous||reply 372||01/25/2019|
AH would definitely let Ryan taste him if Ryan wanted.
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|by Anonymous||reply 376||01/26/2019|
Very tasteful Jesus tat, complete with crown of thorns, on his left bosom. Does his wife find that sexy?
|by Anonymous||reply 377||01/26/2019|
How do you see the pictures?
|by Anonymous||reply 378||01/26/2019|
R377 I bet Aaron liked it. One of the many dichotomies in his life was the fact that he was an avid Bible reader while also enjoying a taste of the K2 and wigger lovin'(in prison I mean.) Aaron definitely saw himself as a Xtian.
If one was to make a list of every "negative" element of what made Aaron Aaron, there would be a "positive" element to counteract it, And IMHO, that is exactly what makes him so compelling. Well that and his incredible body and smile.
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|by Anonymous||reply 380||01/26/2019|
Ryan = dream bottom
|by Anonymous||reply 381||01/26/2019|
Why won’t the links work.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||01/26/2019|
R379 trying to be all deep and philosophical and then in the last sentence, the true feelings come out.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||01/26/2019|
Links work for me
|by Anonymous||reply 384||01/26/2019|
Actually, the links don't work, but the images appear in the boxes at the posts
|by Anonymous||reply 385||01/26/2019|
Does Ryan still think of Aaron late at night?
|by Anonymous||reply 386||01/26/2019|
Damn boy, of course he does
|by Anonymous||reply 387||01/26/2019|
The pictures only seem to work in preview.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||01/26/2019|
for those who can't view the gif
|by Anonymous||reply 389||01/26/2019|
the second one
|by Anonymous||reply 390||01/26/2019|
seems like this is a much better link
|by Anonymous||reply 391||01/26/2019|
How could Ryan move on from this?
|by Anonymous||reply 392||01/27/2019|
r392 that’s honestly the first time i’ve seen gayface on AH, but there it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 393||01/27/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 394||01/27/2019|
I wonder what that tattoo of Christ means to him and about him. Is he religious ? Did he turn to christ after Aaron died? How did he balance his Christianity and his relationship with Aaron? Were they both in denial about those who endorsed Christianity's views of gay life. They may not have thought of themselves that way. But they were still cheating on their women. And though Ryan is cute he looks like a pretty blue collar average white boy. He isn't a doctor. What career was he pursuing before Aaron hired him? And look at how he dressed for trial. He wasn't raised by Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn.
|by Anonymous||reply 395||01/27/2019|
R395, Ryan was and is still Hot, even by DL standards. What is interesting is never saw Ryan with tattoos until pics posted here. He might have gotten tatts with AH being present or vice versa. They were very tight with one another. After AH mother took up with cousin's husband, dought she had any or much control over him or his actions. Ryan had the stable family life lacking at AH' s house and without pressure put on him to be famous football athlete. AH's bigger than life p ersonality and large body was a sense of security to Ryan unlike the other kids around.
|by Anonymous||reply 396||01/27/2019|
R395: “He isn’t a doctor.” This is one of my favorite comments on this thread. No, Ryan was the boyfriend of a man who had an entire apartment full of guns. That’s the level this story took place at: tattoos, guns, and pheromones.
|by Anonymous||reply 397||01/27/2019|
It saddens me knowing that those two could have been together for a lifetime if not for all the self-hate. Seems like the only two people Aaron trusted were Ryan and Tanya. He told Ryan practically everything (excluding the murders lol).
Anything they had clearly went much deeper than sex. When he said "but please...just..just..I just need you to be here for me please?" in that small voice, I teared up! He didn't know how he'd survive if Ryan gave up on him.
|by Anonymous||reply 398||01/27/2019|
I've listened to the call more times than I'd like to admit. Every time Ryan would show despair be it through deep sighs or words, Aaron was quick to say things like "obviously you're the first person on my visitor's list!" "first thing I did was write you a 2 page letter!" "I'll be out in a few years!"
So so sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 399||01/27/2019|
R389, this how Ryan bounces.
|by Anonymous||reply 400||01/28/2019|
R383 I don't even know what you are implying. I am a woman who has been participating in this and all previous Aaron threads since the beginning. I wrote my true feelings as I always do.
|by Anonymous||reply 401||01/29/2019|
Listen: A bonus episode of ‘Gladiator: Aaron Hernandez and Football Inc.’
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|by Anonymous||reply 403||01/29/2019|
Massachusetts Department of Correction's complete report on Aaron Hernandez's suicide and time in prison. Hernandez, a former New England Patriots tight end convicted of the 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd, committed suicide April 19 at Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Shirley, Mass.
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|by Anonymous||reply 405||01/29/2019|
Ryan's the type of guy to make you miss your freedom. What an absolute cutie!
|by Anonymous||reply 406||01/29/2019|
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|by Anonymous||reply 408||01/30/2019|
I wonder how many loads Ryan took later that night. You can tell Aaron's thinking about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||01/30/2019|
Ryan’s masculinity really takes a battering being pictured next to that slab of prime alpha male. How anyone can divert their eyes from the main course to that sorry side dish is beyond me..but do you
|by Anonymous||reply 410||01/30/2019|
r410 some of us prefer mens with a softer side... Id fly Ryan to Costa Rica for week to fuck the shit out him too!
|by Anonymous||reply 411||01/30/2019|
Aaron wasn't a "prime alpha male" he was damaged good from the get-go. His charade was fabulous, but flimsy, and combined with faulty character and massive brain damage, turned him into a killer with with little power to assimilate who he was in the world.
Prime alpha males play ball at good universities where they also learn a thing or two, maybe go pro, probably not, and enter business to make millions. They are good husbands, fathers and friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 412||01/30/2019|
[quote]Prime alpha males play ball at good universities where they also learn a thing or two, maybe go pro, probably not, and enter business to make millions. They are good husbands, fathers and friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||01/30/2019|
[QUOTE]Aaron wasn't a "prime alpha male" he was damaged good from the get-go.
He’d probably break you in half with his bare hands. The man was a legit stone cold killer—I don’t know how you get more alpha than that.
|by Anonymous||reply 414||01/30/2019|
Because I don't consider the "alpha" of the human male to be synonymous with uncontrollable thug and killer of humans.
|by Anonymous||reply 415||01/30/2019|
Of course he was a hot fuck and I would have been happy to take a ride on that. Prime Alpha Male - no. This is a pathetic DL Troll's masturbatory trope.
|by Anonymous||reply 416||01/30/2019|
[QUOTE]Because I don't consider the "alpha" of the human male to be synonymous with uncontrollable thug and killer of humans.
Well the rest of the world does.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||01/30/2019|
In your fetid world view perhaps.
|by Anonymous||reply 418||01/30/2019|
Yes, only in my fetid world view. Because most people, like you, consider someone like Tony Soprano to be a beta male. 😂
|by Anonymous||reply 419||01/30/2019|
Ryan looks like a flirty little kitten in R405 gif. No wonder Aaron was smitten!
|by Anonymous||reply 420||01/30/2019|
Smitten by a kitten
|by Anonymous||reply 421||01/30/2019|
I just watched an Argentinian movie on Amazon called My Best Friend and for those of you looking for a movie version of the early years of Ryan and Aaron I would say that it is a pretty good parallel.
|by Anonymous||reply 422||01/30/2019|
Look at Ryan’s jawline in R405. Such a dream twink. Bet Aaron’s heart fluttered in his chest when he first saw Ryan in the hallways at school. I know a few boys who did that to me back then.
|by Anonymous||reply 423||01/30/2019|
This has become the love story that wouldn't die. They'll never be able to do a movie while Ryan's alive so it may be a while before the true story is dramatized.
|by Anonymous||reply 424||01/30/2019|
Fuck Ryan, I’d just change the names and he wouldn’t be able to do shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 425||01/30/2019|
I'd love to see the sex scenes when Aaron unleashes his thug passion on pretty boy Ryan
|by Anonymous||reply 426||01/30/2019|
Tear up that hole
|by Anonymous||reply 427||01/30/2019|
There was a film with Cissy Spaceck years ago when she was driving around the south or midwest with "madma boyfriend." She does voice overs reflecting on their past life dispassionately. I imagine Ryan living his life now with tapes running in his head of past times with AH, chilhood and with fame and due to outcome, cannot be spoken of publically.
|by Anonymous||reply 428||01/30/2019|
When Ryan smiles he looks so pure/childlike. The gif in R406 reminds me of Aaron saying "I will always take care of your boy" to the dad.
|by Anonymous||reply 429||01/30/2019|
Ryan: what do you do when you go outside?
Aaron: I get it in
Ryan: you get it in?
Aaron: hell yeah
Ryan: what, working out??
Aaron: what you think, I aint putting it in nowhere else
Ryan's family and friends now know Aaron buried it deep in him consistently...
|by Anonymous||reply 430||01/31/2019|
R430, That conversation = XXX😯
|by Anonymous||reply 431||01/31/2019|
Ryan proposed to his now wife literally 3 months after Aaron was sentenced to life. I'm thinking he decided to commit to the hetero life since Aaron wasn't coming back...how sad
I wonder if they had plans of eventually coming out and building a life together
|by Anonymous||reply 432||01/31/2019|
R430 Aaron was lying, no? What about Kyle K?
|by Anonymous||reply 433||01/31/2019|
R422, i see the movie is on Amazon but it costs $4.99 in HD.
Is it worth the rental?
|by Anonymous||reply 434||01/31/2019|
R423 I have always thought that Ryan looks like a nineties boy bander.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||02/01/2019|
[quote]I wonder if they had plans of eventually coming out and building a life together
|by Anonymous||reply 436||02/01/2019|
R436, it's possible that they did. Aaron told his mother that he and his unnamed "true love" (the person we assume is Ryan) spoke about Aaron leaving the NFL, and moving to California with Ryan.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||02/01/2019|
"[R436], it's possible that they did. Aaron told his mother that he and his unnamed "true love" (the person we assume is Ryan) spoke about Aaron leaving the NFL, and moving to California with Ryan."
That's the one thing that makes me sort of side-eye Ryan's intentions a little bit. I absolutely see Ryan as being the type who loves the excitement and drama of being on the dl with his NFL superstar hunk, but would Ryan really have settled down and lived an open life as a gay man with Aaron? I'm not so sure. That was clearly Aaron's dream, but do you think it was Ryan's as well?
|by Anonymous||reply 438||02/01/2019|
[quoteI wonder if they had plans of eventually coming out and building a life together
I think before the killings happened Ryan and Aaron planned all along to live together in "Cali." When Ryan tells Aaron "I'm mad at you but I love you" it's because he fucked up their dream. They could start over in L.A. or Hermosa Beach, and have a real life, out in the open. Aaron took that away with his actions. All those afternoons in spent cuddling and sharing their hopes for the future together down the drain. Ryan must've been fucking pissed. They probably began planning their new life when they were alone together for that week in Costa Rica. Sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 439||02/01/2019|
R439- leave a tender moment alone. Who would make plans with a thug- even a thug wannabe.? That's why painting Ryan as this doe-eyed Opie is so mistaken. Ok say Ryan and Aaron have been lovers since high school, or they felt something but didn't act on it fully. Aaron comes back to Judea and wants to start or rekindle a romance. Don't forget they are both with their girlfriends from high school. Ryan has just been doing construction at a failing business. Aaron makes him a personal assistant and they become " super close". So now it's always blue skies when they are together. But Aaron's other life is no secret to Ryan. His attraction to Aaron is that the faux thug demeanor that he knows Aaron puts on whenever they aren't together. Aaron is a pussy cat with Ryan. Ryan loves this rush. Ryan has no street experience, so he can afford to romanticize it. But really only two idiots would thing they would have a life of independence and freedom in California. That sounds like the rejected ending for "Brokeback". They are both lying to themselves, about their relationship and its future, and Aaron's troubling, erratic behavior due to the CTE. After reading the Spotlight series on Aaron, I believes it's clear that Aaron was suffering from CTE since high school or college.
|by Anonymous||reply 440||02/01/2019|
There’s no way that Aaron, with his gang ties, would be relocating anywhere to live an openly gay life with another man.
|by Anonymous||reply 441||02/01/2019|
Yes R440. You're right. Ryan knew Aaron the best. But in a way he was the innocent bystander. Ryan most likely knew Aaron had this other side to him, but not a homicidal maniac. Aaron already knows something's wrong with him. The CTE. He talks of himself as being "this lost person." Maybe "Cali" was dreamed up by Ryan to soothe him as a place to go where they could live by themselves. In LA, you're always in your car. They couldn't do it in Connecticut or Massachusetts. They saw LA as their shangri la.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||02/01/2019|
[quote]Ryan proposed to his now wife literally 3 months after Aaron was sentenced to life
Do we have the heart-wrenching tape where Ryan tells him over the phone that he and his best girl were going to tie the knot?
|by Anonymous||reply 443||02/01/2019|
Ryan didn't approve of the thug life so Aaron kept it far away from him. I mean for someone soo close to the defendant, he was shockingly useless to the prosecution in both trials. His only relevancy was his intimate relationship with Aaron. I wonder if we'll ever see the texts Michele described as "porn level graphic." Who has them and how can RadarOnline purchase it??
R440 Rewatch the testimony; they were "super close" before the PA offer.
|by Anonymous||reply 444||02/01/2019|
Ryan's wife is going crazy. She can't decide whether to leave her Facebook page on private or public. As of right now it's public.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||02/01/2019|
"According to Alyssa Anderson, Aaron Hernandez was gay and struggled with his sexuality. “Back in college, there was text messages I saw on his phone when he came back from a trip in Connecticut that was [from] a male, that didn’t have a name, didn’t really say too much. But it was a relationship with somebody.”"
Alyssa was his GF back in Florida. Do we think this is Ryan?
|by Anonymous||reply 446||02/01/2019|
Rr446, It wasn't Kyle...
|by Anonymous||reply 447||02/01/2019|
Ryan is not an innocent bystander. He is complicit in Aaron's behavior by remaining his lover, friend, and personal assistant. Saying he is an innocent bystander is like saying Carmela Soprano was an innocent bystander. And if the truth bore out we would find that the murder was really over Ryan's place in Aaron's life. He is innocent of Aaron's crimes, but he is no bystander.
|by Anonymous||reply 448||02/02/2019|
R448 I couldn't disagree more. Your definition of "complicit" is very unusual. Ryan didn't "assist" Aaron with the gang activities or murders. If Ryan knew the extent of the gang stuff and did nothing, then that makes him a bystander. But I do believe at the very least Ryan intervened. In the first call (and in subsequent recordings) Ryan comes across as someone who wanted the best for Aaron. He was blunt about his anger and disappointment, practically told Aaron to cut the bullshit when he said he did his "best to live the dream life." The Globe mentioned that only to Ryan did he admit to hanging out with the wrong crowd.
If anyone was complicit it's Shayanna. She sat back and watched thugs come in and out of their house. If Ryan were in her position Bradley, Bo, Wallace, wouldn't even know where they lived. He won't even dream of texting Ryan to hide the murder weapon like he did Shayanna. But in her defense it doesn't seem like he listened to her much.
The only thing Ryan's guilty of is not being with Aaron 24/7 and obviously that's not a crime.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||02/02/2019|
[quote]would Ryan really have settled down and lived an open life as a gay man with Aaron? I'm not so sure. That was clearly Aaron's dream, but do you think it was Ryan's as well?
Ryan would do whatever Aaron wanted. He was submissive.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||02/02/2019|
DL Eldergay experts on all things anal: has Ryan's butt snapped back to hetero-normative size, or is it permanently blown out from those good years with the annihilator? The latter sad fate would fit your oft spoken theories.
|by Anonymous||reply 451||02/02/2019|
[quote]The only thing Ryan's guilty of is not being with Aaron 24/7 and obviously that's not a crime.
|by Anonymous||reply 452||02/02/2019|
Ryan tried to save him. Aaron didn’t want to be saved.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||02/02/2019|
R438 Look at Aaron. It was Ryan's dream as well! All those hours spent cuddling and talking likely involved discussions of a possible future together.
|by Anonymous||reply 454||02/02/2019|
Reason #14678999 to hate Outsports.
“There have been four gay or bi men who have appeared in a Super Bowl”...aaaaand Aaron Hernandez erased off the damn list!
Talk about Alice-through-the-looking-glass Identity Politics and fucked up priorities Yet these people will endleeselynlecture you about not erasing the identity of trans aand that a hulking big brute of a male is in fact really a girl with totally no unfair advantages over a tiny bio girl. Jesusfuckingchrist.
|by Anonymous||reply 455||02/02/2019|
Wish AH could have bern with Patriots tonight..... In Another World.
|by Anonymous||reply 456||02/03/2019|
Brandon Spike posted this pic on twitter. Looks like he's commando
|by Anonymous||reply 457||02/03/2019|
Imagine a Spikes, Tebow, Hernandez sandwich
|by Anonymous||reply 458||02/04/2019|
What’s up with his teefs here? False? Did they get knocked out playing FB?
|by Anonymous||reply 459||02/04/2019|
R459 Yassss they are. He had a dental bridge built after knocking his two front teeth out from an ice skating incident when he was younger
|by Anonymous||reply 460||02/04/2019|
R460 Where are you getting your info? I see nothing online about this. I only found that he suffered a possible concussion after a collision in an ice-skating ring.
|by Anonymous||reply 461||02/04/2019|
who got the shoebox of candid photos he took of his sexy romps with hot jocks n ballers...
|by Anonymous||reply 462||02/05/2019|
R461 His brother’s book; The Truth About Aaron: My Journey to Understand My Brother. There’s my receipt, bish!
|by Anonymous||reply 463||02/05/2019|
It’s obvious he had crown/partial work.
|by Anonymous||reply 464||02/05/2019|
All the fuck photos were burned asap, ….. many hot sports figures and celebs partook of his big man ass hole.
|by Anonymous||reply 465||02/06/2019|
Fuck he was a hot piece of meat.
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|by Anonymous||reply 467||02/06/2019|
I did not have sex with that man!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 468||02/06/2019|
R458 I've never been so jealous of a helmet in all my life.
|by Anonymous||reply 469||02/06/2019|
R469 Lol!!!!! I love you!
|by Anonymous||reply 470||02/06/2019|
Can only imagine the number of porn re- creatios could be made about AH short and sad life. High school locker room, football frat., roomate tales, rough club tales, tropical "paradise, prison bixxh cell mate, first man experience...wow
|by Anonymous||reply 471||02/08/2019|
Aaron's immense love for Ryan is honestly the only thing that humanizes him in my eyes. Even after his arrest he was more concerned about how Ryan was going to be financially affected! I'm referring to the phone call btw.
If society wasn't fucked up, Aaron would be more of a calmer person with Ryan as his live-in boyfriend/husband.
|by Anonymous||reply 472||02/08/2019|
I just want to see the movie about his life. I hope it includes plenty of gay sex with hot Ryan.
|by Anonymous||reply 473||02/09/2019|
I just want to see the gay porn version of this love story!!!! Any gay pornstar doppelgänger recommendations of sexy Aaron Hernandez and his sexy Rican/Italian ass?
|by Anonymous||reply 474||02/09/2019|
This picture of Ryan....DAMN!!
|by Anonymous||reply 475||02/09/2019|
he could’ve at least removed the bukkakke windscreens for the photograph, r475
|by Anonymous||reply 476||02/09/2019|
She’s got a more masculine jaw line than him
|by Anonymous||reply 477||02/09/2019|
Y'all are severely over-rating this Ryan guy. He has nothing more than the average, white gayface. Aaron's definitely had hotter tail in his bed. Ryan was just the first one he really was able to be himself with and that counts for a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 478||02/09/2019|
He really is average, but he's hotter in our eyes because he was special to Aaron.
|by Anonymous||reply 479||02/09/2019|
R475 He looks gay af in that pic.
|by Anonymous||reply 480||02/09/2019|
It’s good to see Ryan and his family doing well and healthy
|by Anonymous||reply 481||02/09/2019|
@R475 - Should we tell her?
|by Anonymous||reply 482||02/09/2019|
R481 The picture in R475 is from 2015 and that kid is obviously someone else's kid. I'm curious to know what Ryan's situation is like after the leaked recordings
|by Anonymous||reply 483||02/09/2019|
This story is so sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 484||02/09/2019|
Does anyone have a link to the facebook account of Ryan's wife - I'm curious.
|by Anonymous||reply 485||02/09/2019|
Ryan with his beard and her niece
|by Anonymous||reply 486||02/09/2019|
Ryan=jesse pinkman Maybe aaron was a big breaking bad fan?
|by Anonymous||reply 487||02/09/2019|
Brendan Schuab to play Aaron Hernandez & Jesse Pinkman to play Ryan McDonnell
|by Anonymous||reply 488||02/09/2019|
r480 He looks gay af in every picture he takes. Not a masculine bone in his body. The people involved in his life has to know.
|by Anonymous||reply 489||02/09/2019|
Ryan at around 19
|by Anonymous||reply 490||02/09/2019|
Jesse pinkman was character on breaking bad, aarol paul is the actors name.
|by Anonymous||reply 491||02/09/2019|
R439 I find your scenario to be quite plausible.
I imagine their romance was at a very heightened stage in the afterglow of the trip to Costa Rica.
|by Anonymous||reply 492||02/09/2019|
Anyone else disappointed that Ryan seems to have gotten over Aaron so quickly? I mean right away he’s off marrying this bitch. Did he even mourn him at all? Or has he been holding it all in, afraid that confronting the truth will break him irreparably?
|by Anonymous||reply 493||02/09/2019|
[quote]Or has he been holding it all in, afraid that confronting the truth will break him irreparably?
He will have a full-on, Britney Spears style meltdown at some point.
|by Anonymous||reply 494||02/09/2019|
R493, people react to death in all kinds of strange ways. Often they just try to reassure themselves that they are still alive and that everything is fine. It can take years to really face a deep loss.
|by Anonymous||reply 495||02/09/2019|
Also, there are some people who can’t face being alone. They always need to feel bonded with someone. I worked with a man who said, right after his wife’s funeral (and a mean an hour later) that he intended to get married again, that he needed to be married. That’s how it is with a lot of people.
|by Anonymous||reply 496||02/09/2019|
[quote]that he intended to get married again, that he needed to be married. That’s how it is with a lot of people.
That’s pathetic. No self-worth, no self-identity.
|by Anonymous||reply 497||02/09/2019|
I don’t really blame that guy. Being alone can be hard.
|by Anonymous||reply 498||02/09/2019|
R488 wow yes that guy really is the physical essence of Aaron Hernandez..or closest by far than anyone suggested thus far
|by Anonymous||reply 499||02/09/2019|
R499 Thank you! I’m glad you agree! Especially when Brendan has a buzz cut....dayummmmm!
R491 I know it’s Aaron Paul, I just named his Jesse character specifically cuz he had a similar hairstyle to Ryan as that character.
|by Anonymous||reply 500||02/09/2019|
Brendan Schaub appears to measure up in all respects. Blimey.
|by Anonymous||reply 501||02/09/2019|
Brendan Schaub would be great casting.
|by Anonymous||reply 502||02/09/2019|
I’ve seen AH do a similar cocky yet adorable expression. Get his agent on the line pronto!
Now who’se lined up for the Shayanna role? What’s Lil Bow Wow doing currently?
|by Anonymous||reply 503||02/09/2019|
Yeah, he’s got the size and physical presence, and the right degree of threat and charm. It wouldn’t take much to suspend disbelief
|by Anonymous||reply 504||02/09/2019|
And starring Lil Bow Wow as Shayanna
|by Anonymous||reply 505||02/09/2019|
is liddle bow wow still gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 506||02/09/2019|
Lil Bow Wow!!! LOL!!!! *Laughing my bussy off like Nene Leakes* I die!
|by Anonymous||reply 507||02/10/2019|
What does Ryan do for a living now?
|by Anonymous||reply 508||02/11/2019|
Also, that's why I wonder if Ryan really had true intentions of moving to California with Aaron. He had been dating his now-wife for so long, it really seems to me that he planned on marrying the high school sweetheart for appearances but continue meeting on the DL with Aaron. If Aaron hadn't been arrested of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 509||02/11/2019|
R509, I wonder if Ryan breaking the news to Aaron about marrying his beard, just pushed Aaron over the edge even more. Like, the CTE symptoms were getting worse, realising he was still facing life imprisonment despite being acquitted from the Boston shooting case, and Shayanna not being his constant support system. He must’ve felt pretty lonely and depressed, especially if Ryan told him that he was going to get married. He must’ve felt so abandoned. If only Ryan remained his true ride or die till the end and came out. And given us some spilled tea of Aaron’s bedside manner!!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 510||02/11/2019|
I agree R510. I think Aaron seeing Ryan in the courtroom knowing he would never touch him again was just too much for him. And knowing that Ryan would be moving on in his life without him also was just too much. The phone calls between Aaron & Ryan are so sad, you can tell how desperate Aaron is for Ryan to be in his life, even if it's just phone calls. I really would love to hear from Kyle, though. It seems Aaron was very fond of him, even writing to Kyle's Dad and telling him how great Kyle is and that he would look out for him. I wonder what Aaron's feelings for him really were. Also it's not like Kyle was facing life, only a few years, so that would have eventually been one more loss for Aaron.
|by Anonymous||reply 511||02/11/2019|
R510, we don't know if Ryan's engagement deeply affected Aaron. Ryan had been with his girlfriend for years and had moved in with her, yet it seemed to have no effect on his relationship with Aaron. I think Aaron would have felt deeply betrayed if Ryan had found a new male partner, but there's no sign that he ever would have done that. He really was ride or die; he probably would have kept visiting Aaron in prison until the end.
|by Anonymous||reply 512||02/11/2019|
R512 100% agree. Although he could still be hurt by the mere fact that he wasn't the one starting a life with Ryan, something we know he wanted.
|by Anonymous||reply 513||02/11/2019|
R513 Yes, exactly. It must’ve broken his heart knowing that cuz he’s locked up in prison, there’s nothing he could do but sit by idly while his true love goes ahead living his “best” life with his beard, when it should’ve been with him. R511 I’d like to hear Kyle’s story about his relationship with Aaron. In the letter to a correctional officer requesting to bunk up with a cellie, he describes ‘name inundated’ as “his heart”, that’s got to be Kyle right?
|by Anonymous||reply 514||02/12/2019|
R514, yes, it was Kyle; the request was denied due to "size disparity," Kyle being a slight little thing (like Ryan) compared to Aaron.
I assume that if Kyle ever gets his act together he'll be released and will talk; he seemed to be happy to get attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 515||02/12/2019|
The true love convo happened somewhere in 2016 (months to a year before his suicide), that’s why I doubt he had any strong feelings for Kyle. Even when he was free and had access to so many other high quality men, Ryan was his main.
Like many have said, seeing Ryan in the courtroom must have hurt so bad. We know he was really emphathetic towards Ryan, so to see him put on the spot and struggle on the stand because of his own stupidity, couldn’t have been easy.
|by Anonymous||reply 516||02/12/2019|
R515 I bet there was a little size disparity in Aaron’s Prison smalls! Oh Kyle will deffo talk, he’s got us waiting on tender hooks! I deffo agree with R516 though, Kyle was a substitute for Ryan. The prosecutors were really trying to dance around the Costa Rica trip and the close relationship between Ryan & Aaron. Ryan got his back up when they questioned him. When Ryan was summoned into the courtroom & walked past Aaron, my heart melted. Imagine seeing your true love but you can’t touch him! I would’ve jumped across & hugged him or blew him a kiss. They would’ve had to drag me off Aaron & put my ass in jail!
|by Anonymous||reply 517||02/12/2019|
I also noticed that the moment he entered and saw Aaron, he started grooming himself (adjusting his pants and shirt) and walking with his chest puffed out.
Why's no one talking about the two guys sitting next to the door? When Ryan was called to come testify, one of the guys turned to the other guy with this smirk on his face and kept gesturing towards the door. The moment Ryan walked in, he gestured once more to him. Mcphee did say that everyone involved in the case knew.
|by Anonymous||reply 518||02/13/2019|
I love the forensic intensity on this thread. You are right, R518, those two men by the door noticeably perk up (and look knowingly at each other) when Ryan's name is announced.
|by Anonymous||reply 519||02/13/2019|
R519! I know it’s fab! R518 Yesss! I noticed those guys too! So childish!
|by Anonymous||reply 520||02/14/2019|
Who were the two men in the courtroom? Friends from school?
|by Anonymous||reply 521||02/14/2019|
R521, I think they were law enforcement guys. No one else would have been allowed to sit right next to the door like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 522||02/14/2019|
When is Kyle being released?
|by Anonymous||reply 523||02/14/2019|
E! or preferably Bravo should create a show for Kyle. Andy Cowen would be relentless in asking pzersonal questions and probing his brain!
|by Anonymous||reply 524||02/14/2019|
R523, if he doesn't behave, meaning no more disciplinary infractions over drugs, etc., they can hold him until 2020. He's in for armed robbery or some such nonsense.
|by Anonymous||reply 525||02/14/2019|
R522 Hmmm, I wonder which one of them spilled the tea to McPhee?
|by Anonymous||reply 526||02/14/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 527||02/14/2019|
Here's my cringey theory on how it all went down:
They both developed tender feelings for each other and became attached all the way back in middle school. Aaron being the alpha that he was, initiates their first cuddle session during a sleepover and it quickly becomes habitual.
In high school the relationship turns sexual and grows more intense but they assure themselves (and each other) that it's just bros fooling around, nothing to it. At some point they each get girlfriends.
Aaron leaves for college thinking he would easily forget about Ryan and stay focused on fulfilling his dad's dream . He gets a different girlfriend but he's still very gay so he fucks random dudes here and there. He starts to feel Ryan's absence deeply.
In 2010 he returns home after the draft and starts spending more time with Ryan. His feelings are even stronger than before and the two actually become honest with each other. They start fantasizing and daydreaming about a possible future together.
|by Anonymous||reply 528||02/14/2019|
R527 He’s as wholesome as the food you get at Whole Foods.....Mmmmmm!
|by Anonymous||reply 529||02/15/2019|
R528 *Dabs tear from eye* Pretty much
|by Anonymous||reply 530||02/15/2019|
R528, no, not cringey; it really does fits with what we know about Aaron and Ryan. All I will add is that it's pretty clear than Aaron stayed in touch with Ryan while he was in Florida, even as he was involved (according to his former teammates) with another player. The phones texts his Florida girlfriend discovered, and that convinced her he was gay, were from a male friend back in Bristol. She said that the messages were not sexual but very personal. I'm guessing they were of the "miss u so much" variety. So I think that their separation convinced them that their relationship was the real deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 531||02/15/2019|
[quote]Why's no one talking about the two guys sitting next to the door? When Ryan was called to come testify, one of the guys turned to the other guy with this smirk on his face and kept gesturing towards the door. The moment Ryan walked in, he gestured once more to him.
|by Anonymous||reply 532||02/15/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 533||02/15/2019|
I'm not installing another app just to watch two guys sitting in a courtroom, or whatever it is r532 is trying to show us...
|by Anonymous||reply 534||02/15/2019|
Request desktop site, request desktop site...
|by Anonymous||reply 535||02/15/2019|
power bottom Ryan
|by Anonymous||reply 536||02/15/2019|
Did Ryan have other boyfriends? We all know Hernandez did.
|by Anonymous||reply 537||02/15/2019|
I saw the courtroom footage with Ryan and the two guys sitting by the door, and in my view R518 is SO far off in his perceptions that I needed a particularly bitchy response.
|by Anonymous||reply 538||02/15/2019|
Does anyone have a link to the prison tapes... please.
|by Anonymous||reply 539||02/16/2019|
R539, the first one can be heard at OP's Radaronline link. I believe that someone upthread transcribed it. Excerpts from other phone calls can be heard in Episode 5 of the "Gladiator" podcast. Clips from the phone call in which Ryan and Aaron discuss moving to California are at this link, but it's only a fraction of a forty-minute conversation (during which Shayanna was kept cooling her heels in the waiting room!) There are a lot more tapes, but as far as I know they are not publicly available.
|by Anonymous||reply 540||02/16/2019|
Thanks 540 Much appreciated ;)
|by Anonymous||reply 541||02/16/2019|
Just so you know, no one else in the NFL was ever gay besides Aaron. He was the only one.
|by Anonymous||reply 542||02/16/2019|
why does this thread go on and on and on and.....
|by Anonymous||reply 543||02/16/2019|
R542 knows what he is talking about!
|by Anonymous||reply 544||02/16/2019|
R542 know what 8he7 in is talking about!
|by Anonymous||reply 545||02/16/2019|
R543 It's hard to let go of this thread when we know for SURE hundreds of tapes exist of these two proclaiming their love/desire for each other.
We're just waiting for some shoddy law enforcement person to sell the rest of the tapes to RadarOnline or Dailymail. I believe the Globe has all of them but they're not trying to out Ryan.
|by Anonymous||reply 546||02/16/2019|
uh, most of us have let go but it keeps goin on...….
|by Anonymous||reply 547||02/16/2019|
OH dear. Ryan is a cutie but that girl drops a purse, a VHS of All About Eve and a pair of heels without even opening his mouth. Dear please.
|by Anonymous||reply 548||02/16/2019|
R548, actually that's one of the things this story doesn't have much of: camp. Completely gay, but no camp.
|by Anonymous||reply 549||02/17/2019|
I agree about the lack of camp - the only place I can see it breaking through is on the Costa Rica trip... both in some themed restaurant and wearing hawaiian shirts... hoping the holiday would never end...
|by Anonymous||reply 550||02/17/2019|
I don't think they ever made it out of the hotel room! I think they went at it the whole week making up for lost sexual intimacy.
I also strongly suspect they lied about who was going on to be on that trip. Ryan probably told his family/gf it was going to be Aaron and a few of Aaron's friends. Truth only came out in court!
|by Anonymous||reply 551||02/17/2019|
There have actually been a few threads recently on DL about Costa Rica, R550. Supposedly it's gay-friendly and popular with gay celebrities. I wonder if that's why they chose it. I had always assumed that Aaron and Ryan had gone to Costa Rica because it's out of the way and no one there cares about American football.
|by Anonymous||reply 552||02/17/2019|
I bet aaron could suck a mean dick? Did he like to eat ass too????
|by Anonymous||reply 553||03/05/2019|
He'd clean his load out of your ass with that long latin tongue and manly stubble scratching your inner cheeks!
|by Anonymous||reply 554||03/05/2019|
I want more of their phone calls to be made public. Can we sign a petition?
|by Anonymous||reply 555||03/05/2019|
R555, in theory, we are entitled to copies of the phone calls, since they are public records.
|by Anonymous||reply 556||03/05/2019|
When Ryan was asked if he remembered saying that Aaron "confided" in his cousin about "a lot of things," he got really uncomfortable and wanted to deny ever saying such a thing. First time I watched it I didn't understand why, but now I know! DJ mentioned in his book that their cousin was the only one who knew of Aaron's sexuality growing up. Ryan was probably scared that they might ask him what kind of stuff Aaron confided in her about.
Anyone ever wonder if Ryan broke it off after having to out himself so publicly? If that's the case, I could see how that played a role in Aaron's suicide. From what we know Ryan was the most important person to him (not that any big media outlet would acknowledge that aspect of the story).
|by Anonymous||reply 557||03/06/2019|
Are there any pictures of their trip to Costa Rica?
|by Anonymous||reply 558||03/06/2019|
Ryan's butt was probably sore for weeks after that trip!
|by Anonymous||reply 559||03/06/2019|
Bump for New thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 560||03/07/2019|
Any description of the two guys Aaron's brother caught him in bed with? Was Aaron banging both of them? Watching them? Was he getting gang banged by them?
|by Anonymous||reply 561||03/11/2019|
Sad for Aaron's death and all the crimes and subterfuge prior!
NO one since has had that level of sexiness and "Hotness."
|by Anonymous||reply 562||03/11/2019|
Massachusetts reinstated Aaron's murder conviction (which had been vacated following his suicide). He died for nothing . . .
|by Anonymous||reply 563||03/13/2019|
Why couldn't all of this have happened to a bottom?
|by Anonymous||reply 564||03/13/2019|
How do you know Aaron wasn't a bottom? The bigger the dick, the better the bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 565||03/13/2019|
omg what queen keeps reviving this pos thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 566||03/13/2019|
R565 All you gotta do is look at Ryan and listen to their conversations to know AH was very much a top.
|by Anonymous||reply 567||03/13/2019|
You don’t know that!
|by Anonymous||reply 568||03/13/2019|
she is dead in dead queen heaven.
give it a rest myrna.
|by Anonymous||reply 569||03/13/2019|
Bottoms don't have anger issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 570||03/14/2019|
R570, you're joking, right?
R565, in one of his last conversations with Ryan, Aaron makes it clear he's the top.
|by Anonymous||reply 571||03/14/2019|
Bottoms have hissy fits. They don't have anger issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 572||03/14/2019|