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Do You Support Trump REFUSAL To Sign The UN Global Compact for Migration

This is the agreement

"The Global Compact reaffirms the sovereign right of States to determine their national migration policy and their prerogative to govern migration within their jurisdiction, in conformity with international law. Within their sovereign jurisdiction, States may distinguish between regular and irregular migration status, including as they determine their legislative and policy measures for the implementation of the Global Compact, taking into account different national realities, policies, priorities and requirements for entry, residence and work, in accordance with international law."

Trump refuses to sign it - do you support him on this?

by Anonymousreply 22December 15, 2018 1:08 AM

Seems like more of a slam against Merkel and the migration uproar she set off a few years ago.

by Anonymousreply 1December 10, 2018 10:12 PM

[quote]The Chancellor of Austria, Sebastian Kurz, stated that the compact would reduce Austria's sovereignty and mix up the difference between illegal and legal immigration as well as that between economic and humanitarian immigration.

[quote]The Australian government has criticized the agreement, claiming that it does not distinguish between legal and illegal migrants, particularly when it comes to welfare. They have also claimed that the compact could impose obligations to support migrants even when they have returned to their country of origin. The Australian government believes that the compact would undermine their current migration policies.

[quote]Goal 17, which condemns discrimination against migrants, has been criticized due to measures for "shaping the perception of migration". Dutch MEP Marcel de Graaff raised issues with the proposal to defund news outlets espousing anti-migration rhetoric and stated that the pact could be used to criminalize political criticism.

It probably is important to identify the key objections.

by Anonymousreply 2December 10, 2018 10:18 PM

Yeah, that does change what Op, cut and pasted, r2.

by Anonymousreply 3December 10, 2018 10:20 PM

R3 USA is not Austria

by Anonymousreply 4December 10, 2018 10:22 PM

Well, I cut and pasted - probably from the same source - in order to achieve parity on content.

A balanced and honest discussion requires the pros and cons be presented, rather than simply depending on the dog whistles to get people barking.

by Anonymousreply 5December 10, 2018 10:24 PM

R2 USA is not Austria and not Australia

by Anonymousreply 6December 10, 2018 10:25 PM

I wouldn't sign anything put forward by the UN.

by Anonymousreply 7December 10, 2018 10:26 PM

[quote][R2] USA is not Austria and not Australia

How is that remotely relevant? What exact part of GLOBAL COMPACT eludes your understanding, r6?

While it won't be an international treaty, as with all United Nations agreements, it will be a politically binding commitment. Do you suppose that the objections raised by Australia or Austria or The Netherlands would not also be applicable to another signatory - or that there are exemptions for the US?

by Anonymousreply 8December 10, 2018 10:31 PM

I support the refusal. Fuck the UN. It should have absolutely no influence or power over our immigration policies. The UN has become such an expensive joke that it should be neutered to that of an expensive humanitarian entity with no political clout.

by Anonymousreply 9December 11, 2018 2:37 AM

[quote]I support the refusal. Fuck the UN. It should have absolutely no influence or power over our immigration policies. The UN has become such an expensive joke that it should be neutered to that of an expensive humanitarian entity with no political clout.

Why? What is the specific basis for your support of the refusal?

Seems more like you're simply against anything involving the UN or immigration, than actually against any specific policy.

by Anonymousreply 10December 11, 2018 2:59 AM

Here is more of the text and a picture that speaks a thousand words.

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by Anonymousreply 11December 11, 2018 3:17 AM

Another excuse for the UN to dump people from overcrowded, tribal, failed societies on the West.

by Anonymousreply 12December 11, 2018 4:40 AM

I support America's refusal to sign the pact. Sounds like more of Soros/Merkle's "open borders" shit designed to destroy Western Europe (and, basically, civilization).

by Anonymousreply 13December 11, 2018 5:43 AM

I wish Trump would completely ban muslim immigration and create a merit system for immigrants. Why should we allow the sick and old into the country to live off us. We owe them nothing. It is a larger problem than people realize. Most people in the health care and social welfare professions are well aware of the problem.

by Anonymousreply 14December 12, 2018 9:10 PM

It's sad when people not only fail to learn the lessons from history but also fail to learn from the present.

by Anonymousreply 15December 12, 2018 9:25 PM

The UN already decides which refugees are referred for entrance to the US. We might say no to a particular "refugee", but we have little say about which groups are given access. Also, often groups are identified for refugee status for political reasons and as political bargaining chips, not for actual and true humanitarian needs.

by Anonymousreply 16December 13, 2018 1:24 AM

Sweetie R16 the UN does not dictate who gets refugees.

Nations negotiate, opt out, you know, as sovereign nations do.

But sure why should the US sign anything. The more we are isolated the better for Putin

by Anonymousreply 17December 13, 2018 2:26 AM

"When UNHCR — or, occasionally, a U.S. Embassy or a specially trained nongovernmental organization — refers a refugee applicant to the United States for resettlement, the case is first received and processed by a..."

Who's referring them, R17?

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by Anonymousreply 18December 13, 2018 3:03 AM

Jfc nations sign treaties capping the number of refugees and if they will take any refugees at all.

The US has signed treaties etc agreeing on numbers.

The UN or NGO vets refugees. If the caps haven't been reached, the UN can refer, not order, not demand, one of the voleg agencies in the US to help with the resettlement.

R18 are you in high school? How do you go from a referral to a unilateral demand? How do you make that leap?

by Anonymousreply 19December 13, 2018 3:18 AM

Feels like I wandered over to Breitbart.

by Anonymousreply 20December 13, 2018 3:20 AM

He is a lowlife, criminal, fool, I support him in nothing.

by Anonymousreply 21December 13, 2018 3:27 AM

French generals accuse Macron of treason over migration compact.

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by Anonymousreply 22December 15, 2018 1:08 AM
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