Dataloungers, please educate me on Connie Francis -- PART IV

[quote]Within 10 seconds of a CF song, you know it is she. She has such a distinctive voice. Very True.

The same:

Miss Francis stirs controversy.

[quote]So?I had wondered where you haters resided.Not surprised its the deep south. Go back to screwing your sister and playing "Defiance"in the woods with your retarded brother's trash heap.As your Queen Brenda Lee plays tunes in the obvious pig pen you fell out of.Rape is not funny to those of us with an iota of sense.Neither are mob murders.But your dumb ass finds humor in those low budget talents.Meaning YOU are low budget

Are all Connie Francis fans semi-literate, with no familiarity with even the most rudimentary, necessary punctuation or spacing?

We have made it to the FOURTH THREAD!!! I will say this. I don't think Streisand, Ross, Cher, Garland, Minnelli, or any of the others have maxxed out three threads in less than three months. Connie is unique in that regard and has earned a well-deserved honor here on DL for all of the wonderful music she's blessed us with through the years. Like the holiday classic in the link below. She tops the Garland version.

Most people agree that Connie's best album after 1963 was "The White Album"

R4 Connie is brilliant in that song. She really does out-do Garland.

And that is very surprising, as I would have thought Garland would record the definitive version of "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" as a drunk alone in a cheap apartment moments before she commits suicide.

BRAVA!

Like buttah.

Barbra is like Devon butter.

Connie is more like store-brand margarine.

That was actually pretty funny, R5.

Connie in 1985, singing a song written especially for her for the "Look of the Year" pageant.

Odd that this is around the same time as some of her "awful" concerts where she could barely sing. Here, she is in top form, both in looks and voice.

Fantastic.

It doesn't matter how many obscure, fawning reviews her trolls can dig up, the proof is in the fact that Connie Francis hasn't had a hit record since 1964 and has been irrelevant since that time. Despite her fans ridiculously claiming that Connie is identified with such classic as "Strangers in the Night" or the theme from "Never On Sunday," no one in the world identifies those songs with Connie Francis. The only original song that is "hers" is "Where The Boys Are," which she can totally have credit for, as no one else would want it, and her covers of the hoary "Who's Sorry Now" and the comedically tragic "Mama."

Connie Francis has never shown one ounce of creativity with her approach to music or even a semblance of understanding what a song is about. She just opened her mouth and oversang whatever somebody else had recorded the week before and hoped she could eke a few sales out of it. The only reason she's become such a notorious figure on Datalounge is its need to practice needless bitchery and Francis -- with her limited career, mob connections, sorry personal life, and tragic attempts to stay relevant, not to mention her bad plastic surgery and wigs -- makes perfect fodder.

R10 maybe she sounds better than when she sang live BECAUSE SHE IS NOT SINGING LIVE.

Did r10 post that as a joke? She looks like she's 70 there and her singing is as bloated as she is.

Not to mention: Look of the Year? There was a prestige event for you, with host Andrew Stevens.

[R12]

She deserves to be in the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame. Haters can call her lame,but she is the equivalent of you all's Britney,Celine,Babs and yes even the tired Dusty Springfield. Connie's voice is wonderful to hear as she belted out hit after hit.That’s why her haters are so shook.

I read as a young songstress, she was offered a full scholarship to NYU but her father after getting encouraging news from Dick Clark,made her pursue singing instead.Her brother,the lawyer instead went to NYU on a full ride.Proving Connie is not only a world renowned singer.Connie Francis also is very intelligent. ....i do not recall Springfield,Brenda Lee nor Petula Clark ever being mentioned as receiving full scholarship's to ANY world class Universities......

When x = pi , the value of cos x is -1, while isin x is 0, resulting in Euler’s identity, as -1 + 1 = 0.

Her father was a real piece of work. A manual laborer, he decided that he alone had the smarts to run Connie's career, as well as control her personal life. Not to mention whatever else was involved in their relationship. Did she ever tell him to go fuck himself, instead of her?

Brenda Lee didn’t graduate from high school,she has a certificate from the Hollywood Institute. ...a school that helped children in show business. Brenda signed her first contract with Decca at 13,her family was very poor.So her schooling ended.

R12= Vikki Carr

R18. Are you lost, dear? This is a thread devoted to Miss Connie Francis.

This was my grandma's favorite Connie Francis album.

She would pop open a big bottle of Cutty, disconnect her phone, put on this album, and we wouldn't see her for days.

R18: Good on Brenda, then! What an amazing life she's had, with an amazing career, professional recognition (R&RHOF) and a happy home life after overcoming childhood poverty!

Too bad Sad-Ass Connie, with all of her "smarts," was never able to figure out how to keep herself relevant, or to find and keep a decent man!

R15 is PRESSED.

People who have been admitted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as opposed to the Ft. Lauderdale Sidewalk of Fame, recorded songs that contributed to the rock genre and are expressly identified with them, and which resonate with the public for decades after release.

Connie Francis had a series of forgettable pop ditties in the late '50s to early '60s. Her one signature hit, "Where The Boys Are," is not a rock song. While she obviously has her share of devoted fans, both of whom like to post here, she has never seriously been considered for membership in the Hall in her 30-odd years of eligibility.

If there is a Has Been Hall of Shame somewhere, she obviously was admitted on the first ballot.

[quote] People who have been admitted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as opposed to the Ft. Lauderdale Sidewalk of Fame, recorded songs that contributed to the rock genre and are expressly identified with them

Right, because inductees like Madonna, ABBA and Donna Summer all significantly contributed to the rock genre. Sheesh!

Petula Clarks dad Leslie admitted he named her after two past girlfriends.

Peta and Ulla........

[R17]

Good afternoon , you always post about Connie being raped or molested.Please take your fetish obsessed,nasty cousin breeding behind elsewhere. Your trash to keep bringing up sexual mess,an it only means YOU are a perverted freak.

Dusty Springfield quote in Evening Standard that was deleted 1970.

"If I decide to have girl or a guy and they fancy me,who cares?"

Dusty's manager was furious and had the newspaper not print it.Dusty's mum would later say she observed her daughter playing stickball in the streets more then with her dolls.Dusty admitted later her parents had a very disfunctional marriage often marred by food fights because her dad was a perfectionist and her mother was deeply religious. Dusty is considered the perfect prototype for Drag queens,something she takes as a compliment.Which spawned the Pet Shop Boys to sample her music....

So when Miss Franconero turns 80 (or 81) next week, do we leave her warm birthday wishes in this thread or does such a festive occasion deserve a separate thread?

Separate thread for sure.

Connie had significant issues with the IRS starting in 1979 because she began listing personal luxury items as business expenses, i.e. if she felt she needed some expensive clothing and jewelry for "photo shoots." Especially when said photos shoots never saw the light of day. Typically, items needed for shoots are borrowed and returned, not bought, kept for personal use and then charged off. She also was involved with a holding company, Concetta, Ltd., that received large infusions of cash from "record sales" in foreign countries and then turned around to give "bonuses" to shareholders, such as some of her friends in New Jersey. After an investigation, no charges were filed but the firm was dissolved and stiff fines were paid.

I guess it's safe to say Connie was in bed with mobsters in more ways than one.

[quote] she needed some expensive clothing and jewelry for "photo shoots."

Like this?

r25, obviously the Hall of Fame Board and the fans thought they had both merit and impact in the history of rock music.

Unlike Crying Connie Francis, who never met a sappy song she couldn't over-emote to.

Connie never seemed to age from when she first came on the scene to her later years. Of course, when you start out looking as dowdy as a 70-year old...

Connie's always been HAF. Give it up. Sure a little height would have been helpful, but even in her most difficult years she kept herself looking like a glamorous star. A babe.

[R33]

Like Babs dosen't scream lyrics.All singers emote dummy.Connie did it first and your favs copied her style and made it theirs.Except for Brenda Lee,she just became one of Bill Haley's underage concubines for her "stardom".At the tender of 13....sounds like her parents didn't care their underage daughter was traveling on the road with grown ass men.Maybe you need to investigate that....or Brenda Lee's affair with Bobby Darin before you fix your bulbous lips to comment on what anybody does. Jezabel.

[quote]All singers emote dummy.Connie did it first

Pardon?

Suck it, haters!

Connie with her parents. I'm surprised she turned out so gorgeous, because her mom and dad were totally average-looking.

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Wow, thread N°5. Connie really broke the DL!

R41 You're not very good with Roman numerals, are you?

R39 She looks like her dad in drag.

Her brother got the looks in the family, such as they were.

Which husband of Connie's is that at r39? First, second, third or fourth?

Connie Francis is beautiful in every picture.Which is why millions of women rushed to copy her signature short bouffant and style. [R44] I bet your grandmother tried it but the hairstyle made her horseface look worse.So gallop away,Trigger

Vintage Connie paper doll. Millions of little girls back in the 60s played with these, hoping they would grow up to be as beautiful as Connie. Very few did, unfortunately.

Another pic:

Connie Francis was Ho Chi Minh's favorite singer. He wooed her with chocolates and roses and invited her to come visit him. Not being the brightest tool in the shed, Connie went to Viet Nam without realizing she was ON THE WRONG SIDE. She had even released her record, "Viet Cong Connie" without catching her error. Thankfully for Connie, no one in the U.S. really cared about her, so she was spared the pillorying afforded superstar actress Jane Fonda.

R48 It's hilarious that Connie was 20 and looked like everyone's MOM.

I guess that's because she was a sex object for her father, so she tried to look like someone his age.

Sad.

Connie as Bonnie Parker. Look at those gorgeous legs!

Even more beautiful than Faye Dunaway, if you ask me.

R15 Connie was second in her graduating class. and she did begin NYU in pre-med until WSN broke out and she had to tour world-wide.

R24 Whitney Hoiston is not in the HOF, ans that is the case with many others who should be in there, including Connie and Dionne. The HOF is a sham and a Hall formulated to place only those that J. W. likes or who have contributed enough money. It is well known that this Hall is a sham and no equivalent to the Baseball Hall of Fame. As for signature song.....you can choose WTBA, WSN, Mama.

[quote] Connie was second in her graduating class

Of two.

[quote]Whitney Hoiston is not in the HOF,

Loved Whitney Hoiston. Her pastrami was amazing.

R31 Never problems with IRS. She did almost go broke by million dollar spending sprees and poor choice of husbands and friends, but she managed to earn millions from th elate 90s on.

R36 Bab.s My Heart Belongs to Me is pure Connie Francis, with the emotive nature and slurs on held notes. Done in pure CF style.

Can you tell us more about those infamous shopping sprees of hers you keep mentioning, Madaboutyou? What exactly did she buy on them? I can't imagine anyone spending millions on clothes alone.

[R50]

If Connie looked like everybodies mom,then you are calling your mothers ugly.Something is really wrong with the Connie haters tonight.Their trains have left the tracks......

R59 It was well publicized in the supermarket rags and in serious newspapers at that time. She would fly from NJ to Rodeo Drive and buy jewelry, furs, and loads of clothing. She tipped her decorator with a car. This went on for some time, and her father finally intervened and had Dick Clark entice her to punch him so that he could have her 302d. She finally left her house in Bel Air and Quincy Jones bought it, and she was renting a mansion in Dallas which was featured in People's magazine. She employed a housekeeper who was wearing beaded gowns and had a L. V. purse, all at Connie's expense. At the time, she was living out of 3 mansions, and a condo in Hallandale, Fl. She spent much money flying all over the country helping rape victims, but this became an obsession. When she finally recovered and realized what she had done, depression ensued, but in the early 90s she encountered a well known psychologist and psychiatrist who put her on the right track, and performing was then again possible, earning her millions. The father made her believe that she was broke in an attempt to stop the sprees, but she was not nearly as broke as he made her out to be. She married Parkinson, the producer, who took a couple of millions from her, and she put her third husband in to travel business for starts. She had to pay Izzy Marion;s gambling debts until she left him. The sprees were a frequent topic of the rags, but they were covered by regular newspapers, as well.

To continue....during this sad part of her life, she managed to get The Victims Rights Laws passed with the help of Reagan and a police commissioned in Broward Co., Fl, and she changed hotel security laws. Throughout these sad ordeals, she had her bright moments in performance. It all depended on her mood and the lithium given to her which was the wrong medication. As a result of the Lithium, you had the disaster of the London Palladium. This led her to search for professionals that could really help her, and she found them in the early 90s. I think the psychiatrist reached out to her, and she found a well known psychologist from NJ. She had some great performances in the early 90s, but also some bad ones. I saw her in AC, and she did an OK show, but she seemed very tired. About a year later, I saw her at one of Trump's casinos in AC and she was great. This led to a big contract with the Trump casinos. Her 1985 Resorts performance was quite good, and she had just married Bob Parkinson. The place was packed with high ticket prices. Shortly after, the marriage ended and she fell apart., and this see-saw continued until she met the right professionals. However, those years have taken a toll on her, as it would with anyone.

Once again...the 12 greatest ever from NJ

R63...and the caption from Everyone Loves Italian....reserved only for Connie....."Everyone Loves Connie Francis. "

[R62]

That sexual attack really almost ruined her.Totally understandable and weird her haters don't comprehend that.But then considering they all are crazy or perverted themselves, I guess.SMH in disgust at them

I loved this Connie Francis spoof on the only Dean Martin song anyone remembers:

"When the dick in your thigh,

Shoots the cum in your eye,

You're a whore, 'Kay?"

R61 Wow, those are some wild tales. I know those shopping sprees were just a manifestation of her mental illness, but what a glamorous manifestation it was - a maid with a Louis Vuitton bag! Tres chic.

Wasn't Connie also arrested around that period for refusing to pay some Playboy bunny for some dresses the bunny had designed for her? I read about that a while ago, but I forgot the details.

Connie used to buy expensive Liz Claiborne purses at Macy's for almost $80 and charge them to a shell LLC.

When asked, "Do you want a receipt?" she'd say, "You dare, and I'll cut your fucking throat!!!"

Otherwise, she was a delightful customer.

Here's the Playboy bunny story, from the article below. The whole article is pretty fascinating, detailing Connie's mental deterioration:

Barbara and Jules Rusoff came into Francis’ life by way of her fingernails. Jules is the manager of a Plantation beauty salon for nails. One day, he heard Connie Francis needed her nails done. So he sent his best “nail technician” to Francis’ Hallandale condo. Jules, 73, had Vicki Blickley bring with her some photos of his wife, Barbara, a 33-year-old former Playboy Bunny who once had a role playing an Indian in the movie High Chapparal. In the photos, Barbara was modeling some clothing she designs.

Francis liked what she saw. “She was very gung-ho,” the nail technician recalls. So were Barbara and Jules. In two years, they had only lost money on Barbara’s fledgling line of clothing. They frequently went to the fashionable Turnberry Isle Yacht and Racquet Club to peddle her wares. They thought having a celebrity flashing Barbara’s expensive one-of-a-kind fashions among other stars could be the break needed to make a part-time interest a full- time business.

Their biggest celebrity customer before Francis was somewhat less visible: a local radio talk show host. ” ‘Oh, Barbie, I love you. I’m going to make you a star, introduce you to people,’ ” Barbara says Francis told her. “She promised Barb she’d … put her on ‘P.M. Magazine,’ ” says Jules. “She wanted Barb to be her private and only designer.” The relationship between the Rusoffs and their star lasted just a few months. Now they agree only on this: Francis did buy some of the Rusoffs’ clothes. Some she paid for. Some she didn’t. Francis says it’s hard to tell how much she might have paid the Rusoffs. After all, she says, she makes out $40,000 in checks each week.

The Rusoffs sued Francis in small claims court, alleging in legal documents that look more like a Worth Avenue shopping list that Francis owes $2,992 for a red sequin dress, jacket and hat; a satin caftan and belt; a blue suede Indian fringe coat; and a purple Oriental quilted coat and jumpsuit. Plus alterations. Then there’s the $102.50 for Barbara’s “shopping services” — a trip she made to the store, Barbara says, to buy Francis earrings, panty hose and a wig. Francis says she has “filed the Rusoffs away, under ‘nuisance,’ with a capital ‘N.’ ”

“She made clothes for me which were inferior,” she says. “The sequins fell off.” “What?” responds Barbara. “There’s not one sequin dress living in this country where a sequin isn’t going to drop off.” Francis also says some of the garments already had been worn by other people. Rusoff denies this, too. In any case, Francis refused to defend herself in court; she ordered her Miami attorneys off the case. The Rusoffs won by default Thursday when Broward County Judge Steven Shutter did not hear from Francis or new lawyers. “I told my attorneys not to blow a lot of money on idiots like this,” explains Francis.

“It happens all across the country,” she snaps. “I’ve got $20,000 bills for accountants and $20,000 bills for lawyers. When people hear I’m Connie Francis, they go outside and count the stars. I’ve spent my entire life surrounded by shysters and crooks and people like this who ripped me off.”

R69 Connie sounds like an economic rapist....which is ironic.....

R70 To me she sounds like a very wise woman, who recognized a pair of grifters even amidst her battle with mental illness.

[R71]

Exactly,those living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Will Gloria Estefan ever play Connie in a bio-pic I read she has a script ready,but Connie may not be thrilled???

Tabloid headline about Connie's shopping sprees.

Love how Connie's troll dismisses her issues with the IRS because HE, her biggest fan and sycophant, doesn't know of them. Other people do. And it's not a surprise, actually, considering her emotional and financial ups and downs over the years.

She sounds like every other cheap has-been who thinks that people should be giving them things for nothing because they're a "star." She's really nothing but a crass Jersey girl. You can dress her up but she's still trash. And the continuing debate about her "musical legacy" is hilarious. She's strictly D-list. Even if she at one point 60 years ago sold a lot of records in a day when people spent pocket change on a single, no one listens to that stuff today except for her rapidly-dying network of trolls.

What her trolls don't seem to get is that these threads about her are all a joke, not a tribute. Just an official Datalounge testament to what a trainwreck her life and career have been.

[quote]"People who don't know we say I hitched my wagon to a star," objected Miss Ono. "But that it the opposite. If I just wanted to be associated with a star, I could have very early. Rusty invited me to a my first recording session. It was Connie Francis. I had never met the lady -- she was really a girl then -- but she was a very big star. When I walked in, Rusty and I overhead her say to Tony, 'I'm gonna bang that Oriental like a gong!' Connie, I soon discovered, was a very aggressive bull dagger in private. Not at all like she was in public. If I had wanted to use a star, I could have. But I was a very modern woman for the time. I didn't like being pursued. I wanted to be the one pursuing. And Connie was very aggressive. Plus, I knew her career was going nowhere. She wasn't an artist. She was a singer who got lucky a few times. But not with me!, " Miss Ono adds with a laugh. "When I met John, it was different. He didn't go after me. But I knew what I wanted. Unlike Connie, he was an artist. He still had great things ahead but he need me to make them happen. Now, everyone knows I am as big a star as John, But not then. Maybe he hitched his wagon it me, right?"

[quote]Francis says it’s hard to tell how much she might have paid the Rusoffs. After all, she says, she makes out $40,000 in checks each week.

That's over $2,000,000/year. She is so full of shit. She sounds like Brenda Dickson.

[R76]

A "never was"calling somebody a "has been",how classy,guttersnipe

Don't be mad at Connie because your miserable life in comparison to Connie's looks like shyyt.Blame your disgusting parents for not using abortion or condoms to prevent the devil's spawn that is YOU.

R79 Is Connie's "friend" -- "Sandy Dennis."

r79 is Connie drunk and r63 is Connie less drunk.

r74, It's hard to imagine a time when her tabloid headline was something other than, "Connie Francis' Pathetic Final Days."

[R81]....talking turd suffering from mouth diarrhea

Wipe your cheeks sunshine,they're shitty....

r83 is Connie drunk and high.

"Connie Francis' Pathetic Final Days."

-- Headline from 1966

I don't know you all's ages but suddenly in your late 30s,40s,50s...your friends start dying.

Thats life in the big city.Don't say you haven't been warned Gaylings

Connie did surprising well to hold on to her estate and to live comfortably into her 80s. Good for her. As she suggested in the article above there are always scammers poised to take advantage, to take your wealth without a second thought for decency

Connie's a sweetheart. Always has been.

Connie's comments in the article suggest she's a bitter old woman who thinks people should bow down before her and give her things for nothing because she was "somebody" 60 years ago. What kind of "Sweetheart" is that? Sounds like a nasty old crone to me.

Bullshit. They were scammers out for any easy mark they thought they found in Connie. She cut them off quickly within weeks of meeting them.

Remember Connie's the one who gifted house keepers with designer clothes and bags.

It's so funny these old queens think they "know" this harpy because they follow her on facebook and belong to her dwindling fan club.

She was happy to accept "gifts" from them until she realized they expected payment. Who the fuck cares that the old bag gave her hand-me-downs to the housekeeper? Doesn't mean that she didn't stiff local merchants for things she ordered.

Just Jersey guido trash. And that gross, overblown style with the bad plastic surgery, hair, makeup and clothes. No class, just crass. Always was, always will be.

R78 Exactly...and that is why she got into financial trouble. She had to pay for her shopping sprees. You didin't think she paid by cash or credit in those days! She was spending that much money and more until her father intervened., and, yes, people were taking advantage of her during those times. He rjudgment was way off.

^By that time, Connie would have been well into middle age, and her father was still calling the shots and telling her what to do? How pathetic is that?

Trying to defend Connie and justify her lame carer and ridiculous personal life is a full-time job, obviously!

$40,000 in checks each week.

She probably meany each month....you usually pay bills by the month. I don;t know about those individuals, but she was taken advantage of by many during those times.

[[R92]

So if you were raped ,bound and tied to a chair for hours by a strange man.You would be okay mentally?Mix in the users and her own father telling her the rape was somehow her fault by looking at her with disgust.Would you be okay with that?Liar.You would be more of a basket case then you already are......

Your rape apologist stance is disgusting

I think Connie haters are simply bitter that they'll never be able to go on $3 million shopping sprees or afford fabulously dressed housekeepers.

Because Of You

GET OVER CONNIE F*CKING FRANCIS!! GET A F*CKING LIFE!!

R97 Connie IS our life. And the sooner you stop hating on her and admit that she's THE queen of rock'n'roll, the better for your life and peace of mind.

[R97]...

We Connie Francis affictionados have a life that includes loving Connie.

You took time out from "your humdrum life "to tell us we need a life.When it looks like you need one dummy.Running in CF threads jealous of an almost eighty year old woman.Your bitter Frau dirty underwear is showing.....an its bright GREEN

Connie Francis is a legend, so seeth bitch

To borrow that Connie's quote from the article above: I'm gonna file her haters away under "nuisance", with a capital "N"!

Only 4 more days..... the big day!

I saw Connie Francis at the Maggiano's in Boca last week and I'm afraid to say she might be losing it a little. Her wig was askew and her lipstick was smeared. Did she have a stroke, because one eye is sort of only half open as well? She was with what looked to be a health aide or nurse-companion or something like that, kind of a good-sized woman plainly dressed. She didn't seem she would be a friend. Connie was not having a good day, unfortunately. She seemed out of sorts and kind of demanding. Some older ladies who recognized her stopped by to wish her well but she clearly didn't want to be bothered, so I wasn't about to say anything , either. I hope she's feeling better for her 81st birthday in a few days.

Has Connie ever addressed the rumor in Jersey that the man who attacked her at Howard Johnson's was sent by the mob as a warning?

She had, apparently, been skimming off more than was agreed to from the bank account set up to launder drug money. The bank was told the money was from "record royalties". Connie was the front and helped herself to the account like it really was money from her work many years ago. Not smart to cheat the mob out of their money.

R98 Connie performing in a stadium early in her career

R98 Can you believe that she was described as heavy in that photo by a reviewer.!

[quote]I saw Connie Francis at the Maggiano's in Boca last week and I'm afraid to say she might be losing it a little. Her wig was askew and her lipstick was smeared.

Wig askew and her lipstick was smeared? Like the way she looked at her "comeback" concert of 30 years ago?

[quote]One of Connie's potential big hits was stopped before it had even finished recording. Connie was in the middle of recording the rocker "Lickity Split" when her father walked into the studio. He thought the lyrics were vulgar. Walking over to his daughter, who was singing, he slapped the headphones off her head, calling her a vulgar word. Connie was left bruised. And the song was left unfinished. Many at the session said it sounded like a surefire hit."

[quote]One of Connie's potential big hits....

[quote]Many at the session said it sounded like a surefire hit.

LOL. Who thinks up this stuff?

So desperate for relevance she needs to create scenarios of the hits that might have been?

Connie did look a little thick through the waist in that pic but for such a short person, she had nice legs.

MyBNR.com will be airing a live broadcast for Connie Francis' Birthday on December 12th at 3:00pm (NY Time) with the Birthday Girl herself. Call in your Birthday Greetings as soon as possible. Here are the phone numbers:

US Callers: 1-877-577-2630

Birthday Greetings..... Option 4 International Callers: 540-288-4001 Option 4

You may also email your greeting: Connie@mybnr.com

^Oh, Dear. Hope this doesn't end in tears!

This is a pleasant surprise..

The first song "Looking for Love" totally lands...

Obviously she is singing in a style and in the kind of arrangement completely different from her "style".... ..It's the kind of song Peggy Lee would have thrown over her shoulder......listen to the directness..the rhythmic propulsion and the sense of fun...and the end is really charming and yes, very well sung..

The rest of the side is not anywhere as good...She could have totally swung the hell out of "I cant believe"...but she goes straight back to her mannerisms that work against her..

But one song does not an artist make!

"Whoever You Are I Love You", number 5 on that disc. is a beautiful song. Outside of the U.S. it was in top 10.

^If you like that sort of thing, that's the sort of thing you like.

R112 That sounds good, but the problem is that it sounds like something from the early 50s.

That just made Connie sound tired. Not enough time had passed for that to be "retro" instead of dated.

Alot of folks like me listen to Connie because her music reminds us of what real music should sound like.Actual instruments from a band,and a real singer.Not that regurgitated,soundboard mixed mess you all love.That’s why her hits will never die and why you CF haters stay mad.

A lot of folks like me listen to Connie because her music reminds us of what real music should sound like. Actual instruments from a band, and a real singer.Not that regurgitated, soundboard-mixed mess you all love.That’s why her hits will never die and all you youngsters need to get off my lawn!!!!!

Connie in Vietnam, looking gorgeous even when surrounded by death and despair.

R110. Thanks for the tip. I'm leaving a bday greeting tiday! Love this.

J'adore Connie with all my heart, but on this magazine cover she looked positively frightening. One of the very few bad pics of Connie you'll ever find.

[quote]The first song "Looking for Love" totally lands...

I can't get past the mushy diction. She sings like she has loose dentures.

[quote]It's the kind of song Peggy Lee would have thrown over her shoulder.

Yes, it's a Peggy Lee type song... something Peggy Lee would have done splendidly in the late 1950s. But Connie Francis doing it in 1964...with that dated 1950s beat... as R115 says: "not enough time had passed for that to be "retro" instead of dated".

Dick Wess conducting

R122 Very nice.

Her usual sappy whine doesn't bother here ...there are moments it sounds like she's almost going for an Eartha Kitt thing.

This is 1960. What a shame she couldn't just go this direction without churning out so much crap. The garbage dilutes the occasional good work.

I love her mushy diction and that smile as she sings about a broken heart.Man Connie,has a brilliant delivery. ...and beautiful voice to match.Kinda teaches us all to smile through the heartache.....

What a lady

R120 “The Faces of Meth”

Eydie shows how it's done in the big leagues.

Connie's version is much better.

The Eydie version has no life to it

R118 Is Connie 3-feet tall?

I like the Count Basie-ish orchestration on the Connie version better. (Although it was dated.)

They are both cheesy lounge singers to me, but Eydie's version seems to understand lyrics are actual words, not just random sounds.

Team Eydie. She sounds like an adult woman, not a cloying teen like Connie, for whom singing was a paint by numbers job.

Eydie Gormè was a respected singer and entertainer with a long career.

Connie was also a respected singer and a very respected entertainer with a long career and sold hundreds of millions of records!

Songs To A Swinging Band from which You'r Nobody Til Somebody Loves You is a great LP. It featured a quick Swanee, Ol Man Mose, Taboo, among others. It was re-titled Connie in New York when released on CD.

Connie and Eydie, among others.

Connie and Eydie again

Connie and others

R129 She's 156 cm "tall" (sorry, have no idea how much that is in those stupid American measurements).

Sammy and Connie

[quote]Connie was also a respected singer and a very respected entertainer with a long career

So respected ...oh yeah...look at the stars that turned out for her Friars bash...and her "comeback" concert!

Long career? In the US from 1958 to around 1964...slowly fizzling out to 1974.

After that time was there a hit record? An album that garnered interest? A TV special? An important guest appearance on a TV show? On the late night talk shows? A duet album with one of the greats? Stuff that any singer with a genuine career would have?

Her career was short.

R139 Connie received the biggest audience reaction.

R140 Her comeback concert was loaded with stars.

She also was on many TV shows, including Oprah. She sang ALL of the nominated songs on The Golden Globes in the mid 80s.

In the 80s, she appeared with Bacharach Carol Beyer Sayers on TV

[quote] Long career? In the US from 1958 to around 1964...slowly fizzling out to 1974. After that time was there a hit record?

"Jive Connie" was a MASSIVE hit in Europe when released in 1992.

What is a dated orchestration vs. modern?????? Can you compare real music with today's canned music?

R145 I Will Wait For You was a big download for her in the early 2000s after it was used on Futurama.

R145 as was Go Connie Go

BTW Connie was awarded a golden Globe in 1964 for internationalizing American music.

LOL. A download in the year 2000 is a career surge! A couple of radio plays in Germany. Loni Anderson showing up at a concert.

You people are a hoot.

Connie with Musty Springfield. You gotta love those crazy 60s hairdos.

[quote]In the 80s, she appeared with Bacharach Carol Beyer Sayers on TV

She appeared with them? Sung with them? Was guest on a TV special of theirs?

Really? Please name the show and when it aired.

[quote] She sang ALL of the nominated songs on The Golden Globes in the mid 80s.

That was in 1984. This is pic backstage. Her appearance on that show was a huge deal at the time; she basically stopped the show.

The epitome of '60's chic.

Coke ran a major campaign around her in the 1960's, trying to create a younger image that appealed to teens.

She appeared with Burt and carol on The Golden Globes. She sang all pf the nominated songs, including Burt's. She brought the house down.

R150 Jive Connie and Go Connie were huge and made her a otn of money, and she was forced to tour Germany and other countries at a time when she was not up to it. They were huge hits, and not imply a few radio plays. I Will Wait For You became notable by her. You minimize everything to comply with your creepy beliefs.

[quote] Sammy Davis, Jr. told me off the record: "Connie would come into the room after a show, when we were drinking and say, 'Oh, no! I couldn't possibly!' when someone said something saucy. Speaking on sauce -- Connie! But we were just messing with that chick. It was all groovy. Man, that hairy bull dagger wasn't interested in us. Except you-know-who. And even then I don't think she really liked her father at all."

Eydie Gormay is Neil Sedaka's first cousin,she credits Connie for her career. ...and her style

Apparently they met at the Copacabana in NY in the 50s,through Neil...and Connie who was a big star helped Edyie.......years later during Connie's Sahara run in Vegas she often hung out,dined with Steve and Eydie.....

That big band sound might not thrill you musically retarded techno,machine music heads but like it or not Thats real music,real instruments and really talented people who YOUR stars tried to immulate but can't. Steve and Eydie also talk about Connie in their bio.....with great sadness.The rape nearly destroyed her.....but CF haters,you all play dumb

R153 She looks like a tranny in one of Jermaine Jackson's old wigs.

True Story: In the 1980s, Connie Francis WAS dinner theater in Southwest Illinois!

Whats interesting about the Micheal's clips are her Streisand walk...like shes crossing the street to by some lox...it's very smart of her to throw that in....

Connie is eyeing Dusty's snatch pretty hungrily in r151.

r156, link, please, to Connie "bringing the house down."

When Connie was hired, it had come down to either her or Pia Zadora. Connie had the advantage because she would both suck dick and eat pussy, so she was able to satisfy ALL of the members of the hiring committee. Plus, she paid THEM to get the gig, figuring it would lead to a comeback. She was wrong.

R151 Did poor Dusty make it out of the room without being wrestled to the floor by Connie the Diesel Dyke, having her hair combed out, and her panties pulled down by Connie's sharp teeth? Poor Dusty.

Connie had nothing to do with Eydie Gorme's successful career, which began in the '50s while Connie was strictly amateur hour. Gorme was a respected, Grammy-winning vocalist with a long career. Connie was a cheap flash-in-the-pan whose shitty records stopped selling in 1964, and then became a lounge singer.

Connie with Brenda Lee. Lee looks like Ronald McDonald's lesbian cousin here.

Why do the Connie trolls insist on making up shit to pad Connie Francis' career?

She was a presenter at one of the GGlobes. And no she did not sing all the nominated songs. And if she brought the house down... please provide a link.

Eydie Gormè owes her career to CF???? Are you guys drunk? Gormè was a recording and TV star years before CF.

[quote]She sang ALL of the nominated songs on The Golden Globes in the mid 80s. That was in 1984. This is pic backstage. Her appearance on that show was a huge deal at the time; she basically stopped the show.

Gee.... for some reason they left her out of the list of "Full Cast & Crew" of the 1984 Golden Globes,

[R166]

You know zero about Eydie, she had great admiration for Connie and said so in her bio. Just because your ignorant and don't like Connie Francis, dosen't mean Gormay didn't. ....

Nobody's making shit up but you,if you googled Edyie's biography with Steve your ignorance would be silenced

Did you Gormay claimers even know Neil Sedaka was Edyie's cousin,hence her relationship with Connie Francis. .....dummies

[quote]Apparently they met at the Copacabana in NY. Eydie Gormay is Neil Sedaka's first cousin,she credits Connie for her career. ...and her style

Completely made up bullshit. By the time CF even set foot in the Copacabana Gorme was a big star.

Eydie Gorme & Steve Lawrence on the Tonight Show in 1956.

Eydie Gorme t the Hollywood Palladium in 1950,

Here's how Robert Preston introduced Connie at the 1981 Golden Globes. These beautiful words almost bring tears to my eyes:

[quote] In this business that we call "show," there are certain words and phrases that are used with a great deal of frequency. For example: "sweetheart"as in a "sweetheart of a deal,"you'll love it," " above the titles and below the lines," "Have I ever lied to you before?" And of course, "Trust me," and then there's the declension of the verb "to owe"as in "he owes her one," "you owe me one," "we owe them one," "they owe us one," "I don't owe you anything." But of course, that last one you can't use until after you've paid your dues. But there are also words we use with less frequency, words like "courage", "guts", "perseverance", "talent", "comeback". We have with us tonight someone who is all those very rare words. Ladies and gentlemen: CONNIE FRANCIS!

Robert Preston did not attend the 1981 Golden Globes.

My bad - it was the 1982 GG awards. And yes, you can find both of them on this list, you sceptical cunt.

Correct, the year was 1982, the 39th awards (for 1981 nominations).

There are no clips of Connie's Global Globes performance on the net, unfortunately, but here's a 1982 newspaper account that will give you an idea:

[quote] ....included some rousing production numbers featuring..... Connie Francis....

^So where does it say that Connie did ALL of the nominated songs and "brought the house down?"

Why do Connie's deranged fans insist on making up such lame shit that can be so easily discredited?

Or is there some schmaltzy parallel universe they live in where Connie Francis has relevance?

r174, Yes, such beautiful words. Could you share the link where you found them, or the clip, so that we all might enjoy them as they were presented?

Are we supposed to be impressed because Connie Francis sang at a Golden Globes show nearly 40 years ago?

If her performance was so memorable... where is it? Not even a photo of the performance. The only mention is a passing blurb in the "lowell Sun Newspaper" where she's grouped together with others. Not even singled out.

And no, of course she didn't sing all the nominated songs. What bullshit.

Something tells me that a lot of "facts" presented here by Connie's fans are from Connie's autobios, and filtered through a drunken haze when both written and then read.

In other Connie news, from the Last Gasp, ND Weekly Shopper:

"Connie Francis Is The Entertainer Of The Century, Declares Alvin Pruitt, 89, Retired Postal Clerk "

[quote]Coke ran a major campaign around her in the 1960's, trying to create a younger image that appealed to teens.

More bullshit. In the very early 60s Coca Cola ran ads with Connie Francis, Anita Bryant, The Brothers Four among others.

They did NOT run a major campaign around her.

R167 Even Lady Bunny would look both their hair -- and Connie's makeup -- and say, 'No, it's too much. Even for the 2am show."

Another Coca Cola ad wit Anita Bryant geared to the teen market.

Two of the nominated songs from the 1982 Globes were Cat People (Putting Out the Fire) by Giorgio Moroder and David Bowie from Cat People and Eye of the Tiger from Rocky III. So yes, it's completely believable and understandable that Connie would have been chosen to sing those songs at the awards.

[quote]You know zero about Eydie, she had great admiration for Connie and said so in her bio. Just because your ignorant and don't like Connie Francis, dosen't mean Gormay didn't. ....Nobody's making shit up but you,if you googled Edyie's biography with Steve your ignorance would be silenced

I'm having trouble believing this isn't a put-on. The punctuation and spelling are so appalling. It has to be a joke. Please, tell me this is a joke.

R184 That ad was originally offered to Connie, but she refused to get her hair wet.

"Call Anita," Connie told the agency. "She'll *shave* her head for a dollar."

I wonder why some here are resistant to recognize Connie for the great vocalist and living legend that she is.

I don't think any here would dispute Judy's greatness and her lasting legacy and she, too, performed at smaller venues like the Circle Star Theatre in San Carlos and Talk if the Town in London in her later years This fact doesn't diminish her greatness and the same holds true for Connie

R180 I think Judy Garland's lasting fame is one of the most overstated things on Datalounge. Most young people, if they know her at all, only know her as the girl on the Wizard of Oz. But even that film isn't the big deal it used to be.

But to even compare her to Connie is such an insult to Garland.

Garland had a huge career as a movie star. She was also, briefly, a TV star. People didn't tend to buy her records (except for the Carnegie Hall concert) because she didn't make good ones. But her voice was always more highly regarded than Francis's.

Garland knew how to phrase a lyric, which usually eluded Francis.

Francis was more a flash-in-the-pan, left to record novelty songs.

I think some queens are jealous of celebs like Connie, who managed to overcome many difficulties in her life, and is still here to tell the tale 80 years later. They prefer their icons to be more pathetic and fucked-up (and dying on toilets before even turning 50). This is the same reason Judy fans will call you a fascist if you dare to say something nice about Deanna Durbin out loud.

I would dare to venture that there are others here like me who don't see Connie Francis as a great vocalist or a living legend. I find her performances either cloying or overblown. Sometimes both. She was not creative or risk-taking at any point, merely satisfied with singing songs made famous by others. Hers was not a brilliant career, which is further evidenced by her lack of any recordings of substance for more than 50 years. I don't find the fact that she learned songs in other languages phonetically to be worthy of mention.

It is unfortunate that she was raped and suffered from mental illness. Those facts or surviving this long don't make her a legend. She doesn't seem to be a particularly deep or insightful person, had four brief marriages, which is an indication of emotional immaturity, and consorted with known mob figures, the same types who had her brother killed. Sorry, she's not getting a pass from me.

Hardly a flash in the pan when a career continues to generate income into one's 80s.

[quote]I think some queens are jealous of celebs like Connie

Why can't I be brutally raped in a cheap motel room? Why does Connie have all the fun?

Connie could come up with a cure for cancer tomorrow and her pathetic haters would still find a way to discredit her.

Anti-Connie loons deserve to be kicked in their cunts as hard as possible!

Connie has about 10 die-hard trolls, maybe a thousand fans left (they're dropping like flies, though) who have an ancient recording or two, and maybe a few thousand more listeners who don't rush to change the channel on satellite radio when one of her songs start playing. But the rest of the Earth's seven billion people are the "loons."

Connie Francis fans confuse their nostalgia for her talent.

[R188]

In other words you can't dispute what i said, so you gaslight with petty,retarded ,OCD (its a mental illness for grammar police)related put downs. Won't change a thing trollop,neither Edyie or Steve Gormay had an issue with Connie Francis.You lied earlier for juvenile kicks and probably because your jealous of Connie's stellular career.Or that Dusty preferred her to your deranged muffbox.Either way,it looks like Connie haters are making up BS to support their deranged hate of an 80 year old legend. Whats next,toilet waste....kicking your grandmothers for fun.

Take your meds and STFU

An Connie Francis haters confuse beautiful music with the garbage they listen too.

R199 OK, now I get it. Hilarious!

[quote] She was not creative or risk-taking at any point, merely satisfied with singing songs made famous by others.

Most of her songs were written especially for her. She also wrote some of her own material; for example, VACATION, which was not only a Top 10 hit in the US, but was an international hit as well.

Once Connie's singles era was over, she recorded little original music and her own output as a writer was limited. But we've been over this in the earlier threads. Repeating bullshit doesn't make it true.

I think some of the "RAT PACK" really lived up to there names.The really personnal things they said.NOT what anyone with manners would repeat.

R202 wasn't Connie somewhat long in the tooth to be singing about high school -- or even college -- vacation breaks?

Oh, but if you believe Connie's fans, she was responsible for the introduction of spring breaks...and vacations, too!

You have to love r199. At first I thought that was just Connie after her usual fifth of bourbon, but really, the use of the word "stellular" is just magic. It's obviously performance art. Bravo!

Guinea, beauty and exquisite voice- she could cry a song- got raped, went into seclusion, and now unfortunately too senile to understand that she's no longer 21 and that her voice is gone.

We"ve passed two thousand!

She was a weepy lounge singer. There was never a song she couldn't wring some false emotion out of.

She was a midget guido woman who looked middle-aged even when young. When she WAS middle-aged, she went full Mafia moll, no surprise, with the explosive hair, trashy makeup and sequined clothing.

She never had a moment of true artistry or creativity in her career; she only did what her father or other men told her to do, despite having "complete creative control" at her record company.

She married four times, with most lasting a matter of months. She was incapable of experiencing complex emotions, which was reflected in her paint-by-numbers singing.

She suffered some tragedies in her times, but never recovered sufficiently to mount any kind of comeback in a creative sense. She had no TV specials, recorded no duets with other performers as many of her contemporaries did, did not guest star on other peoples' specials.

Because she already looks like a drag queen, with exaggerated wigs and makeup and sparkly clothes, she appeals to some gay men, who find her maudlin music and memories like catnip. With nothing else to do with their time, they scour Connie's bios for salient "facts" they can post on DL in another vain attempt to prove Easy Listening Connie had some semblance of relevance to anyone but themselves.

R168 She most definitely sang every nominated song...Arthur's Theme, I believe, was the winner. Robert Preston gave her a most unusual introduction highlighting the superlatives that apply to her career. She was great on the show. She was not a presenter, but a total performer for each and every nominated song. I believe it was 1981. She was also awarded a Golden Globe in 1964 for internationalizing American music.

R174

Yes...that was the intro by Robert Preston before she entered to sing the nominated songs.

n this business that we call "show," there are certain words and phrases that are used with a great deal of frequency. For example: "sweetheart"as in a "sweetheart of a deal,"you'll love it," " above the titles and below the lines," "Have I ever lied to you before?" And of course, "Trust me," and then there's the declension of the verb "to owe"as in "he owes her one," "you owe me one," "we owe them one," "they owe us one," "I don't owe you anything." But of course, that last one you can't use until after you've paid your dues. But there are also words we use with less frequency, words like "courage", "guts", "perseverance", "talent", "comeback". We have with us tonight someone who is all those very rare words. Ladies and gentlemen: CONNIE FRANCIS!

210 Correction 1982. i saw the broadcast, and Connie was in fine voice for each song, and Preston's introduction was extraordinary. I wish that it were on youtube. She wore a purplish blue beaded gown

I wish I had lived as long and had the financial security Connie has.

[quote]She was also awarded a Golden Globe in 1964 for internationalizing American music.

Ur, I think I did that LONG before.

Didn't Quincy Jones say Connie had the hairiest pussy in show biz?

Since two people have posted the Robert Preston intro, there must be a link. Please post it. I have not been able to find it.

Connie at her worst......She simply has no idea what she's singing..she has no idea what words mean...

I'm sure The Connie Flappers will all say her version is better----you know, compared to one of the greatest singers who ever lived.....

R217 That album should have been called "Too Many Cocktails Connie"

[quote]Perhaps, in the oddest moment in Miss Francis's career occurred when she appeared at Flapdoodle's Star Lounge at the Ramada Inn. It was one of her first appearances after the incident at the Howard Johnson's. Spotting a well-dressed black gentleman at one of the tables not far from the stage, Miss Francis froze. Staring down at the man, she stopped her song ("We Shall Overcome"). After an awkward silence, she began yelling a racial slur that begins with N. Miss Francis refused to continue her "Salute to Martin Luther King, Jr." until every black man was removed from the venue.

Esquire magazine.

Nirvana to wake me and Bowie, The Manics, Bonnie Prince Billy, The Smiths, Dylan, Cash, Connie Francis, Kraftwerk, Aphex Twin, Derrick May and Richie Hawtin to earth me. Brian Eno music for airports, and Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No 3 and Rubenstein's Saint-Saens - Piano Concerto No 2 in G minor to take me away.

R218 Both versions are great. Connie's phrasing and use of words is great, despite what 218 says. I believe Peggy Lee wrote that song. Eydie and Connie were friends, as were Connie and Steve Lawrence. They frequently had dinner together.

R217, that song is wonderful. It's exactly the kind that Connie is at her best at. I'm actually more critical of those "Swinging Big Band" songs posted above, because I don't think that fits her style of singing.

R170 Where is that found...in a book regarding Connie and Eydie. Connie has stated that among her top 10 favorite recordings can be found two of Eydie's. Connie did admire her, and she was great friends with Eydie and Steve.

I like Connie's version of Where Did Everyone Go, as well as Nat's. Each singer has his own style. Connie's emotive style is subdued on this recording. Nat over-enunciates some phrases and he uses some staccato which sounds a bit odd, but it does not reach the ridiculous staccato of the Bab,s recording above, The Shadow Of Your Smile. Nat has a rich barotone; Connie a nice mezzo voice.

The theme song from Connie's last major motion picture.

[quote]Nat over-enunciates some phrases

Nat King Cole felt that he had to do that to overcome the stereotype that Black men don't speak well. It was a sign of the time.

Connie could have done with some more crisp elocution. Not like phony, prim Julie Andrews, who is unlistenable outside of her movies, but Connie should have cleaned up her diction.

She often sounded as if she had a dick in her mouth. (Not that I'm judging people will dicks in their mouths.)

R226 If they had just done "Where The Boys Are" in a different key signature, it wouldn't have been as lazy a copy of the original as that rip-off.

R228 ???Don't know what you mean? ...and what rip off?

[R227]

So Cole's over enunciation is excusable,Babs screaming, Dusty's drug induced muttering all exceptable but if Connie Francis dares any vocal experimention she can't sing.You perfectionists are delusional to a point where it's irrational. Who died and made you all moderator's of what good music should sound like.I mean you don't represent the masses,who still love Connie Francis.You only represent a smidget of critics mad Connie's star still burns brightly over those poor excuses you call real singers.Your singers are mimics of a style invented by Connie,except it and bow down.Heathens

[quote]I mean you don't represent the masses,who still love Connie

Sure, Jan.

so....

Nat King Cole

Barbra Streisand

and

Julie Fucking Andrews

...cant compete with Connie and her ever burning star...You do know how crazy you all sound...I mean you do know your opinion is the minority opinion,,,

Right?

Connie’s is the only human voice that NASA has sent into space.

They wanted to intimidate aliens.

Like Someone In Love

The general consensus among the public and songwriters is that Connie really understands the lyrics and sings them as if she means them, putting genuine feeling into them. She lives the songs, as Don Costa stated.

Connie's back at r230. I'd say from the sound of this rant that she's drinking rye tonight. It always makes her a little extra ornery.

r235, please provide a link to the "general consensus."

R237 Provide a link to your nastiness! I have always heard that about Connie! No link necessary. Just read a few article son her!

R235 Oh, honey . . . Connie sings every song like she just heard her dog had died while she was being raped.

The BEST!

Oppps....The BEST!

Lol, R228, yes it is. The beginning is exactly the same, Yet, I still like it.

People say this…I've heard this…It is thought that…

Sure, Connie Troll.

And no, we aren't just jealous. Who'd be jealous of a third-rate lounge act who's known for exactly three songs, all of them hoary and outdated?A crass Jersey girl who consorted with mobsters? A four-time marital loser?

Why has this no-talent tramp merited seven or eight threads?

[R239]

Yes deflect with your infantile rape humor

You sound like the type to think jello pudding is mousse. The cheap knock-offs you all hype are laughable.An that tired Quincy Jones line,tsk...tsk honey.He is/was a 20 year drug addict....who helped Ray Charles get high.Does that sound like somebody who is worthy of quotes?Maybe in the trailer park you live in Selma Anne.But it sounds like the polyester pants and mumu your currently wearing needs to be laundered. In hot bleach.

Connie at r245 has moved onto the hooch and gone off the rails. Sweetie, send us a selfie! It'd be a total hoot to see you lounging in your evening pajamas!

In fairness to R245, it's not mean feat typing with a keyboard covered in vomited scotch and barbiturates.

NO mean feat; not "not mean feat"

Barbituates?

R249 The word is "barbiturates."

[R249]

Awe ,the crack and meth diet for your belly bulge isn't working dearheart

Your wedges are starting to lean and that control top girdle has lost control Frau

[R249]

Sorry it should be [R247]

Maybe it's time to retire to my bed in my sumptuous loungewear and glamorous Connie Wig

R251 has learned what all good writers do: write what you know.

[quote]The general consensus among the public and songwriters is that Connie really understands the lyrics and sings them as if she means them, putting genuine feeling into them. She lives the songs, as Don Costa stated.

No, not true.

If it were so, she would have introduced pop standards or reinterpretations of pop standards that would have been associated with her and gotten air play.

Please list the songs that she introduced (or that are genuinely associated with her) during the thick of pop music creativity...from 1964 on.

Thanks in advance.

People who're saying only nostalgics listen to Connie are wrong - I'm 27 (though I don't look a day over 24, of course) and I adore her. Face it, losers - Connie's music isn't going away anytime soon, with generation after generation discovering her amazing musical legacy. I don't plan on having any kids myself but I'll make sure to turn my niece into a Connie Francis fan once she grows up.

Oh, and it's now less than 24 hours until the big day!

[quote]Connie's music isn't going away anytime soon

Her music pretty much went away after the British invasion and never recovered.

[quote] ...from 1964 on.

What?! Why from "1964"? Music is only counted if its after 1964?

Connie's last hit record was in 1964, though it's not a stretch to say that her only relevance before that was in disposable pop music.

r255, you meant to type 72. You don't write or sound like a 27-year old. But nice try, dear. I'm sure your beloved Connie would appreciate it…if she knew who you were. Or if she knew who she was.

All of this talk about Connie singing at the Golden Globes is pretty funny, like that's an incredible honor to go up and sing OTHER PEOPLE'S HITS. It's just typical of Connie's career. She hasn't had an original song identified with her for 50+ years, so all she can do is trail other, better performers with her usual hysteria-driven style.

I'll bet those awards were a hoot, with Connie's rousing lounge versions of "Eye of the Tiger" and "Cat People."

[quote]People who're saying only nostalgics listen to Connie are wrong - I'm 27.

[quote]"Now, I never had a problem with her," said Gore to her girlfriend. "She was always nice to me. But people she threatened got real scared. I think that's because there was word that she knew people who could back the threats up. That's just talk. I don't know. I do know that I never felt anyone would guess about me when I stood next to her when she was threatening someone. That I can say for sure!"

Its so sad how the musically retarded run in this thread to diminish Connie Francis's immense talent and contribution.She is America's first pop star.If your too young to remember, look at those you stan for now.They are mimicking Connie Francis.That’s right,Connie was the blueprint for everyone you now love.You can believe it or not. Who cares,you all sound like weeping babies running around mad your diapers need changing. Everything does not begin or end with YOU.An everything YOU do was probably done before. That's why Connie laughs at you haters,her millions of fans,hit records and style.Will outlive YOU too.Poopsies

Love Connie. Winter evening are marvelous by the fire with a little cocktail before dinner and Connie's music playing throughout the house. Sublime.

The Sure Jan cunt is back! Blow the bugle! I was hoping she had choked on some black cock.

R259 & R261 Thank you for making me feel so young, cunts. I know that 27 is young by DL standards but in real life that's not young at all and I've been feeling super old ever since I turned 24 or so. Just last week I eavesdropped on a conversation two stupid high school girls had on a train ("Your boyfriend is 19?! He's SO OLD!")

[quote]She is America's first pop star.

No, that was Rudy Vallée.

[quote]I know that 27 is young by DL standards

R261 yes, you're right... he's 72.

[quote]Just last week I eavesdropped on a conversation two stupid high school girls had on a train ("Your boyfriend is 19?! He's SO OLD!")

This is the Datalounge equivalent of Jacob Wohl saying, "I Just Left a hipster coffee shop and they were all talking about how much they secretly LOVE what Donald Trump is doing for America."

Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that one of Connie's biggest DL fans is a 27-year old guy from Slovenia, but hey - that's the truth. And if 20-somethings in random places like Slovenia are listening to Concetta I can't even begin to imagine how many fans of all generations she has in the US and in countries like Germany and Japan (those places where she released records in local languages).

The more you're trying to make Connie look like some forgotten has-been, the clearer it becomes what a GLOBAL icon she really is! Her music will outlive us all, that's for sure.

Over there in Slovenia they remember her 1961 album "Connie Comes in From the Cold (War)"

R271 We don't, because Yugoslavia didn't participate in the Cold War, dummy! Try reading a history book instead of trashing poor old Connie.

R271 is Melania.

[quote]"Perhaps, the strangest moment of the evening came when Connie Francis was seen stumbling backstage. She appeared to be somewhat intoxicated. She was mumbling, 'Oh, my pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my sweet, warm pussy. Why did Dusty not call? Oh, my pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my sweet, warm pussy. Daddy changed the number. But she could have called in that hour before he did. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my sweet, warm pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my sweet, warm pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my sweet, warm pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my sweet, warm pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my pussy. Oh, my sweet, warm pussy.'"

[R274]

More juvenile humor from a trashbox.Are you sure that wasn't your mother whispering that in your dirty ears as you entered the filthy trailer you both obviously live in.Shyythead

HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRANK SINATRA AND CONNIE FRANCIS

Phil Spector's Second Hand Love

Connie should have done an album called "Second Hand Songs"

Brenda Lee should have done an album called"He don't Love Me".....

Father has a business.

Strictly second hand.

Everything from toothpicks to a baby grand.

Stuff in our apartment came from father's store.

Even things I'm wearing, someone wore before!

It's no wonder that I feel abused.

I never get a thing that ain't been uuuuuuuuused.

I'm singing second hand songs . . .

Wow Connie's birthday is almost here

Somebody bake her and Italian cream cake and send it with Orangina drinks pronto

Happy Bithday Connie Francis

The greatest singer that ever lived.

Happy Birthday, Connie!!!!!!

I've cried myself to sleep many a night thanks to you.

And alcoholism.

Great article about Ronnie Spector in this week's People magazine. There's a woman who's seen it all and keeps on going. Happy marriage after escaping from Phi's clutches, a couple of kids, and even membership in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Still looks great and performs, too.

And then there's Connie...

Happy Birthday.

[R283]

I love Ronnie, she is not as big as Connie but still another great voice and trail blazer in music.

[quote]"According to a former employee, Miss Francis celebrates her birthdays by hiring 'professional people' to spend the evening with her. 'They come at around 6 in the evening. I am asked to leave two bottles of bourbon and a bottle of vodka on the side table. With ice. And tongs that are polished real shiny. Miss Francis will throw them if they got spot on them. She likes lovely things. And her birthday guest are certainly that. I come back around 9, after the ladies have left. Put a blanket over Miss Francis, on the floor or couch.. I don't have the back to carry her no more. The next day, she don't remember a think. Or maybe she does. Who knows? But we don't talk about it. Which is nice. I like her. For being one of those people. I mean show people. I don't hate nobody as long I they leave me alone. You know?'"

Happy Birthday, Connie! Love you, hon.

Connie will probably have a big dinner party attended by hollywood elites.I wonder what Neil Sedaka will get her this year?Connie has so much....because of her enormous wealth and worldwide prestige. Unlike the stars,the Connie haters stan for.

Insiders, what does Connie have planned for the day?

[quote]Connie will probably have a big dinner party attended by hollywood elites.

Dick Capri, Pat Cooper, Danny Aiello, Jay Black, Stewie Stone....unfortunately Abe Vagoda is dead.

[R290]

Just like i thought,big hollywood stars....nothing but the best for Connie Francis

Happy birtdhay, Concetta. Thank you for all the joy you've brought into our lives with your beautiful voice. But I still don't understand why most source cite 1938 as the year of her birth, when it's no secret anymore that the real date is actually 12/12/1937.

Anyway, I'm thinking about getting shit-faced tonight in her honour and start Christmas decorating my apartment while listening to her records.

[quote]Miss Somers recalls being at a table next to Connie Francis. "It was raucous," she laughs. "Apparently, it was her birthday. Big table. All gals. They'd all been drinking. No big deal, you know. Just having a good time. But they were kind of loud, so it's not like I was listening in, you know. I'll never forget some lady across the table, lifted up her glass and yelled, "May you wake up with your face in Raquel Welch's twat!" We almost spat out our ziti, my husband and I were laughing so hard. I never saw her before or since.

[quote]Anyway, I'm thinking about getting shit-faced tonight in her honour and start Christmas decorating my apartment while listening to her records.

Be sure to turn on your LifeCall alert system just in case you fall and can't get up.

Tonight, Connie will get shit-faced.

Whether she realizes it's her birthday or not.

R277 OMG it's amazing Phil Spector's career survived that mistake.

r285, you are exactly right. Ronnie has remained petite while Connie is as big as a house.

Ronnie remains the more well-regarded of the two, however, with her body of work, iconic status and inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Connie may have sold more records, but her songs were forgettable pap and then she became a lounge singer.

On what planet is Connie "as big as a house"?! Looks like her breasts have grown out of proportion (which often happens to old women) but she's not that overweight at all.

I love this video clip. This song is still a perennial favorite in the Vaterland.

[quote]Ronnie remains the more well-regarded of the two, however, with her body of work, iconic status and inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Ronnie Spector is included among the rock A-listers.

Just for "Be My Baby" alone...

[quote]It is considered one of the best songs of the 1960s by NME, Time, and Pitchfork staff members. In 2004, the song was ranked 22 by Rolling Stone in its list of The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time and described as a "Rosetta stone for studio pioneers such as the Beatles and Brian Wilson,"

"No less an authority than Brian Wilson has declared 'Be My Baby' the greatest pop record ever made—no arguments here."

"In 1999, it was inducted in the Grammy Hall of Fame, and in 2006, the Library of Congress honored the Ronettes' version by adding it to the United States National Recording Registry."

"In 2017, Billboard named the song #1 on their list of the "100 Greatest Girl Group Songs of All Time"."

R299 What is up with her singing all those songs in other languages?

Was that common back then?

I don't recall hearing of other big names from that time singing a lot of songs in other languages. It certainly doesn't happen now.

R301 Yeah, it was pretty common back then but I don't think anyone recorded their songs in so many different languages as Connie. She recorded songs in: English, German, Dutch, Swedish, Spanish, Latin, Italian, Greek, Portuguese, Japanese, Yiddish, Hebrew, French...That's 13 different languages and I'm sure I missed some. Connie was like a human Rosetta Stone.

[quote]Connie was like a human Rosetta Stone.

In the sense that she was like a rock that more intelligent put words on.

r298, you mean Wide Body Connie there in the middle? Couldn't tell for sure because of the Joker mask she's wearing.

[quote]In spite of this reputation, Connie had many defenders. Abe was one of them. "A lot of people say Connie is an idiot," he said. "But I think that's a little strong."

Connie Francis had the career she should have had. She was popular in the '60s with her particular brand of pop music and then extended her career after her own hits were over by appearing in Vegas and Atlantic City singing covers of other songs. She never seemed to be interested in anything more, or pursuing other avenues where she might have had some success, such as the stage or screen. I'm not sure why people here are trying to make her something she was not. She was a popular singer of the era, not a legend, not a superstar. She needed more than "Where the Boys Are" or her covers of "Who's Sorry Now" or "Mama" for that.

[R285]

So Connie gained a little weight,so what...she is 80.I bet you weigh 400 and wear a control top girdle with polyester pants and a mumu.Connie is draped in designer duds,furs and diamonds.She evidently is doing better then YOU.At probably twice your age. Don't be a jealous bitch,step up your game.I hope Connie posts pics from her party tonight on her social media site.As she has done in the past. An no,you jealous ,hateful heifers are not invited.

Thank you R306. You said it accurately and non-antagonistically after nearly 4 threads of this back and forth bitch slap fest. Connie had the career she should have had. Plain and simple. The first female teen idol of the late 50s early 60s who never developed her wares into more substantive, definitive standards to be identified exclusively with her, be it the result of alcohol abuse, drug abuse, mental illness, poor artistic direction, PTSD, or professional complacency and laziness. No major comeback ever happened, though the potential was there. A/C and Vegas do not signify comebacks but the ability to make money trading on nostalgia with performances that were adequate at best. This is not to be mean or bitchy. It's the truth, and the truth speaks for itself. Celebrate the career she had, swoon in nostalgic memories, and enjoy the music of hers that you like, but stop trying to make this woman out to be so much more than she ever was. Is she a survivor? Yes. Did she live a fascinating and horrifying life? Yes. A totally upstanding character, legend, and superstar? No. But I will wish her a very Happy Birthday and glad she is still with us to talk about it all.

At her most glorious.

^Her voice sounds like someone letting the air out of a balloon.

Oh please,its a beautiful voice full of emotions. I love her singing,and how she blends sarcasm with heartbreak.

Hums "Yes everybody's somebodies fool..."so timeless.

That was unwatchable and unlistenable. She sounds on the verge of hysteria and even then looked middle-aged.

The birthday girl and the birthday boy!

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r307. what do you mean I'm not invited? I've got my ticket to Connie's birthday party in the Memory Section of the Parkland Rest Easy Nursing Home right here. It's starting momentarily, because Connie and all of her "celebrity friends" living there tend to not make it past 5:30. They're having Connie's favorite lime jello mold with the mandarin oranges, too. Easy on the gums, you know.

Let me guess. YOUR invitation got lost in the mail. Connie certainly doesn't need your negativity at this late stage in her life.

[quote]Hums "Yes everybody's somebodies fool..."so timeless.

For you.

Love Connie And I'd be celebrating her birthday now with champagne but there are three Mexican guys installing carpeting in my house and they've been here 7 fucking hours banging, yelling in Spanish (which I speak so I haven't heard one of them refer to me as the fag yet) and blasting mariachi music and Mexican rap from their phones

But when they're gone the Connie festivities will begin!

Ms Heifer

Tickets were only available to Connie wig wearers. So I doubt you got a ticket or invite with that Dusty Springfield catastrophy on your head.Its an upscale event precious, surely that's above you current station in life as Beerhall Sweeper Upper and backup barback.Admission denied Cupcake

R301 She won a Golden Globe for it! For internationalizing American music.

A strange Birthday article...perhaps from Germany.

he blow hits, the musician would fill an entire Jukebox: tunes like “Beautiful stranger”, “Barcarole in der Nacht” and “love is a strange game” brought to Germany in the 60s for Dancing, and made Francis to be a Superstar. But even if you heard for many people, is still one of the best German pop singers of all time – Francis is actually American, lives today in the vicinity of Fort Lauderdale in the U.S. state of Florida and is also in your home to be a Superstar.

That was a stinky linky, R320. But yes, lots of foreign websites (especially those in German speaking countries) mentioned her birthday. Connie is still considered a big schlager icon in Mitteleuropa.

[quote]"It was an awkward evening," Sol recalls. "Connie was angry about something that was said. I didn't overhear it. But she kept screaming, 'I ain't a lezzie! I ain't a lizzie. Why would this nobody say that? I was just being friendly, OK? I ain't no lez!' Of course, I had to ask the other women to leave the lounge. She wasn't a star playing in the next room. But I also felt like I had to cut Miss Francis off. Boy, that's when we got the REAL fireworks!"

[R322]

You seem fascinated by Connie Lesbian stories,let me guess your the Dusty Springfield troll?

If you know anything about German pop music in the 1960s....you can sort of understand why she'd find popularity there.

[quote]let me guess your the Dusty Springfield troll?

"Let me guess: You're the Dusty Springfield troll."

You're welcome!

[quote] If you know anything about German pop music in the 1960s....you can sort of understand why she'd find popularity there.'

What do you mean, R324?

R326 The US and the UK were busy inventing rock and pop....but Germany?

This is a link to a mix of German pop music in the 60s. German pop...all of northern European pop... was really sappy.

You can see how see how beautifully Connie Francis' recordings would fit in there. While they would be considered square and old-hat in the US.

That's pretty funny, R327.

Connie's political views are better suited to Germany in the 1930s than the 1960s . . .

[R325]

So,your a hypocrite. ....all the mental health issues Dusty had mirror Connie's minus the rape.

But you will give Dusty a pass because you want her pussy.....really?Shakes my head at your selective ignorance. .......

Your Welcome

Only Elvis and the Beatles sold more records than Connie Francis. That's what you call a legend.

Nice interview.

Well, Connie's a pretty sorry excuse for a legend.

Yeah, the only problem with Connie's record sales is that she's only known for three songs, all of them weepy, sappy numbers. Elvis and the Beatles had dozen of hits that people can name off the tops of their heads. Their tunes have been reissued again and again in different compilations because people know them and love them and will buy them. Connie fell off the charts after one more soundalike ditty in 1964 and never made it back on. Popularity does not equate to quality. That's why she's not a legend and never will be.

[quote] she's only known for three songs

What are the "three songs" you have in mind?

R333 I can name exactly one Beatles' song. Actually, I can name two but I know only the name and not the melody of the second one - I never cared much for their twee music (nor for their ugly teeth). Meanwhile, I could name at least a hundred Connie songs. I don't know what kind of music you like to play in your double wide, but she definitely IS a legend in our household!

Connie sings Over the Rainbow...IN GERMAN! Even a nasty language like German sounded dreamy when coming out of Connie's mouth. Voice of an angel, that one!

^ Limburger cheese

[quote]Only Elvis and the Beatles sold more records than Connie Francis.

Not true.

Hey Einstein, your stats are for the USA onky.

Worldwide only Elvis and the Beatles have sold more records than Connie Francis.

R339 That's why in the US Connie Francis is so insignificant.

Another list: No Connie Francis.

Another list. No Connie Francis.

2019 inductees into the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame have been announced today - still no Connie. That award is becoming more ridiculous with each passing year - on what planet does Janet fucking Jackson deserve it but Connie doesn't?!

^Connie wasn't even up for consideration this year (or any year) so how could you be surprised?

If you've got a source for that, r339, please post it.

r335, bless your heart! Anyone else would be embarrassed to reveal just how SPECIAL your musical tastes are and how LIMITED your knowledge is, but you just go on being so proud of your shortcomings!

Genius at r339, what part of "Top Selling Artists Worldwide" don't you get?

Connie has never even been nominated for the RRHOF< and this is true of a number of artists you would expect to be inducted. This is because JW does not like them personally and business-wise. The Hall is a sham and only reflects artists he likes, whether they should be in or not. It is no way equivalent to The Baeball Hall of Fame. It is a joke and only a source of revenue. It is political, and i would bet that if Connie and all of th eothers who deserve it that have been passed over,contributed enough money, they will be in PRONTO! The Hall has done nothing for the fame of the artists inducted.

R339 In the earrly 1980s, she was third on the list in the USA behind Elvis and the Beatles. I am not sure about world-wide curretlty, but she is up there. She is 12th on the list of Billboard for females, but should be higher and 4 hits prior to the Hot 100 Billboard charts occurred. She would be within the top 5 or 3 if they are counted.

[R347]

The whispers were JW didn't feel comfortable with Francis due to her mob ties.But critics silenced that with then why is Sinatra an inductee.

Clearly,Connie should have been the first or second in the RRHOF....her body of work has influenced everybody from Joan Baez to Kate Bush,yet thr haters still want to snub her.An its funny they don't snub MALE artists for much of the same trash they accuse Connie Francis of.JW and the trolls are misogynistic hypocrites

R349 Sinatra is not in the RRHOF. They are both in the Pop Music Hall of Fame.

R345 Bitch, I think I can safely assume that my musical knowledge is far greater than yours is. Unlike you I don't specialize in trashy popular music, but listen to classical music mostly - I love works of masters such as Janis Medins, Josef Suk, Mondonville and Felix Weingartner. Do those names ring a bell to you? I didn't think they did...

But yes, I take great pride in two things - in loving Connie so much (she represents the best late 1950s pop music had to offer) and in not knowing much about those overrated British hacks who ruled the charts in the 60s. Hearing that someone is a big Beatles fan is an instant dealbreaker for me.

Howard Stern did a big rant about the RRHF not long ago. He doesn't bother to vote because he says its rigged. The votes aren't even counted.

Howard Stern attended Connie's concert in NYC when the St. George's Theater was remodeled and sh eopened the newly remodeled venue in the early 2000s, I believe.

[quote]In the earrly 1980s, she was third on the list in the USA behind Elvis and the Beatles.

You mean nearly 40 years ago? It's soon to be 2019.

[quote]her body of work has influenced everybody from Joan Baez to Kate Bush,

LOL.

Hi, Madaboutyou, just because you repeat the same "facts" and recollections and "if onlys" thread after thread, it doesn't make them any more reliable or compelling. It just makes you more tiresome and pathetic.

r351, but even with all your highfalutin' tastes, you still like third-rate Caterwauling Connie. So, indeed, you are very charitable to advance the cause of negligible singers of the past.

You mean nearly 40 years ago? It's soon to be 2019.

Yes, in the 1980s....but she is still up there if you read the rest! She would still be within the top 5 females if her 4 pre-Billboard 100 chart hits are counted. Without them, she is number 12 of all time females. Not a small accomplishment. You read and cite only what you want to.

R355 You are selective as to what you recall and cite.....that is why they have to be repeated....you seem to ignore the positive facts and make up negative ones.

R355 And by the way, your derisive and idiotic remarks and made up stories, especially about rape, places all of your remarks in a dubious category not to be believed. You are probably the biggest Connie fan on this board.

[R349] How on earth did Connie Francis influence Kate Bush?

Leave Madaboutyou alone, you cheese-eating gnome! His knowledgeable posts made these threads a lot more interesting and informative. Without him they would consist of nothing but us Connie fans and you haters calling each other insulting names.

So even the biggest Connie fan thinks she's a horrible singer and an object of ridicule? Doesn't say much for her as a person or as a singer.

You are such a whack job, r361. Everyone knows gnomes do not eat cheese. Their species is lactose-intolerant.

R362...Just where do you get that from?

Ah...I see...As was said before, there was a fan who ridiculed Connie while stalking her concerts and booking her at his college without Connie or her manager knowing. The college became suspicious. The person turned out to be a twisted fan who was greatly and overly enamored by her. An article about this was written in his city paper in Ohio. Some people get a charge out of doing that, as can be seen on this board.

Carey was married to Sony Music executive Tommy Mottola when this was released. In his book Hitmaker, Mottola claims that she initially balked at doing a Christmas album, since she thought it would damage her hip-hop credibility. When she saw the now-famous cover with her dressed in Santawear, she said, "What are you trying to do, turn me into Connie Francis?"

This cover of All I Want For Christmas art reminded Mariah of Connie Francis.

[quote]"I'll never forget about that song," Jerry Wexler said, laughing. "Connie came up to me in the hall afterwards. She said, 'Give me that fucking song, Jerr.' There was no way I was gonna waste such a fantastic song on her, so I told her no. She threatened me. It was like someone in a 1930s mob movie talking. It was funny, but also a little scary. I never gave her the song. Aretha got it. As everyone knows. But I gotta tell you: I didn't sleep too good for a while. Connie had a reputation. People had been killed before."

[R367]

Please Connie's father stood up to the mob so that her career wasn't owned by them.Its a well known story.....stop the lies Brenda Lee

R367, of all your "quote" posts, that was the funniest one.

Please share the attribution for that "well-known" story, r368, or it's just another bullshit tale made up by Connie's sycophants. Also "well-known," are Connie's ties to the mob.

To put the Sinatra name in the same sentence as this thing is ridiculous...

Yes they were both singers and yes,,yes,,from New Jersey and yes,,,yes,, knew the Mob..

But Frank had this ..and so much more...

I loved Sinatra's quotation:

"Don't fuck with Connie. Hey, I may be connected, but I don't suck their dicks!"

Connie and Frank naturals together, especially, as Frank said, when she sings songs like I Found Myself A Guy.

R372 Yes....When Connie and Frank were both in LV, , Frank drove her abusive first husband, Dick Kanelis, out of town.

Frank's mother organized a charity benefit for the blind and Jimmy Roselli was to sing there. However, he wanted to get paid. Frank eliminated him, and asked Connie to take his place, and she did. This started a close friendship between Connie and Dolly Sinatra. It ruined Jimmy's career

[quote]"The last time I produced a song for Connie was sorta difficult," recalls Jake. "She barely got through the chorus and started squirming. 'Oh, Jakie, I gotta poo!' she kept saying. We had a whole band in the room. I asked if if she could hold it until we finished. She said, 'We only got the last chorus to do. I already recorded the damn chorus. So just use that again. Use it! They just words, Jakie. You got all the words. That's all you need for a fucking song.' She then left. I never saw her again. I guess you could say Connie shat twice that day."

Your memory is fading, r375. You've only told us that story about 16 times.

And yes, we know, Connie has always been popular with senior citizens.

r376, that was for the album Constipated Connie.

There's been an alarming lack of photos of Connie's birthday party with all of her celebrity friends.

An American sings a Greek song in German - only someone like Connie could pull off a feat like that.

^No one else would think it an appropriate thing to do, except for Anything-For-a-Buck Connie. And it's obvious she doesn't have a clue what she is singing about. It's amazing how Connie's trolls think that schlock is impressive.

The only thing impressive about Connie's schlock is the sheer amount of it. If there were a Schlock Hall of Fame, Connie would be entombed there when she dies.

R380 Who's the hot guy in the pic left of Connie?

That's Thomas Fritsch (son of Willy Fritsch, who was perhaps the most popular German actor of the Weimar era).

I believe Connie is actually the only non-German person in that cover, which just goes to show how highly the Germans thought of her and her music.

Yes and you know those Germans.......

Yes, Germany loves its butch lesbians, so Connie was right up their alley.

[R381]

No dearheart,its amazing the Connie haters can't tell the difference from class and schlock. But i guess you all's basic,lower class upbringings hender your abilities to know the difference.

r380 shows us that there is no recording too obscure, no conclusion so ridiculous to make, no shame great enough in knowing about this album and who the people were on it even if it did occur 60 years ago that Connie's trolls won't use as an example of her "greatness." What's obvious is that none of Connie's betters, not Dusty, Barbra, Petula, Dionne, Brenda, Diana or anybody, need any threads to convince anyone of their status as musical icons. It's only little Concetta that's needed four threads as her trolls vainly try to make a case for her as someone of lasting merit. Oh, Connie sang on a German record compilation! Oh, Connie sang someone else's song on the Golden Globes! Oh, Connie has celebrity friends like Neil Sedaka! They don't seem to realize it but they're damning her with faint praise. If she were a superstar, if she were a legend, they wouldn't have to trot out bullshit clips from 40-50-60 years ago.

[R388]

Yet in you run in tattered polyester and matted wig to jealously bemoan Connie's celebrity.If it's so unimportant, why are you Haters anxiously in every thread. Mad at Connie's stardom.

Don't be mad at Connie because your disfunctional childhood and inbred marriage didn't make you a star sunshine.Blame your parents.They should have used contraceptives.

And her trolls also seem to think that their hilariously ungrammatical and bellicose condemnations of anyone who doesn't worship at Connie's feet are something other than symptoms of their unhealthy occupation with her.

390...and vice -versa

R388 No one outside the English-speaking world knows who Musty, Brenda or Dionne Warwick are. Sure, they may know some of their songs from the movies and commercials, but they could never name the singers who actually recorded them.

Connie, on the other hand, could easily fill an arena in Germany even today if she wanted to. Her songs (like "Schöner fremder Mann") have become standards in those parts. She's a SCHLAGER LEGEND! No wonder the Germans went crazy when "Jive Connie" came out in the 90s.

Season One's soundtrack features 15 classic master recordings heard in the first season, including Barbra Streisand's "Come To The Supermarket (In Old Peking);" Frank Sinatra's "Oh! Look At Me Now;" The King Cole Trio's "It's Only A Paper Moon;" Ella Fitzgerald, Paul Weston & His Orchestra's "Isn't This A Lovely Day?;" Connie Francis' "Who's Sorry Now?;" Peggy Lee's "Pass Me By;" and Julie London's "Cry Me A River." The album also features two songs by Blossom Dearie and classic tracks by The Mills Brothers; The Pied Pipers; Sutton Foster, Vince Giordano And The Nighthawks; Maurice Evan and Rom Hussmann; and Cyril Ritchard with The Roar of the Greasepaint (The Smell of the Crowd Ensemble).

Connie's music continues to be used in movies, TV, and in other media. The songs are still relevant.

[quote]"Everyone knew that Connie's music was stuck in the lily-white 50s," said Waddy. "But most people don't know why she never got in the groove. Most people don't know why her music sounded so square. But I got a story to tell you. She didn't allow no -- I can't use the word she used -- in the studio. Right after Leslie Gore had a hit with 'That's a Party' [sic], Quincy Jones said he wanted to produce Connie's next record. I told her, thinking she would be over the damn moon. But she just looked like someone opened a can a spoiled tuna. She said, 'No mulignan, Waddy. No exceptions." I told her Quincy could really get her grooving, but she said, 'No c--ns!' and that was that. Boy, was that a mistake."

[R395]

Your racist posts always include Quincy Jones? You do know he brought her house,right. If she were so horrible,why did Jones rush to purchase her Bel Air mansion?I wouldn't knowly give money to racist.Though it sounds like you would Blanche,the KKK assistants wife

R396 Fortunately, Quincy never knew Connie's views. He just knew she had the hairiest pussy in show biz.

Barbra Live..in Berlin

Quincy Jones was an admitted drug addict for many years [R397]....how can you attest to his knowledge knowing he was high for a good portion of his career.Infact, who even believes drug addict's except other drug addicts.Go back in the bathroom you obviously wondered out of Lady Heroine, the diarrhea usually falling out of your gaping sphincter has now begun to excape from your mouth.

Pet Clark sings in German..

Barbra tone-dead...in Berlin

Diana Ross and the fucking Supremes...in German and Germany..

I agree with R399.

Connie Francis did NOT have the Hairiest Pussy in Show Biz.

There may have been two or three gals who were hairier.

Sounds like Barbra is having a rough time there.

Dionne in Germany!!

Liza in Germany

The Krauts go nuts!!

[R388] No one outside the English-speaking world knows who Musty, Brenda or Dionne Warwick are. Sure, they may know some of their songs from the movies and commercials, but they could never name the singers who actually recorded them.

Connie, on the other hand, could easily fill an arena in Germany even today if she wanted to. Her songs (like "Schöner fremder Mann") have become standards in those parts. She's a SCHLAGER LEGEND! No wonder the Germans went crazy when "Jive Connie" came out in the 90s.

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM>>>>>>YES THEY DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????? Shove your Schöner fremder Mann up your ass!!!

Dusty in Germany!!!

Whitney in Germany!!!!

Olivia in Germany!!!

Whitney's mother, Cissy, was a backup singer for Connie in several 1960 recordings.

Brenda Lee in Holland,,,,

Donna Summer SPEAKING in German!!

Cher in Germany....

They only know Connie In Germany....Right?

They know no other singers, RIGHT?

People in non English speaking countries only know Connie, Right?

I wish people would stop saying Connie Francis was the Hairiest Pussy in Hollywood.

That is so disrespectful to Judy Garland.

Connie's the same irrelevant twat in europe that she is in the U.S. She may have learned the songs phonetically in another language, but she was still singing other people's hits in her same whiny way. And Europe doesn't exist in a vacuum. People there were exposed to the same singers and their hit records as were people in the U.S. and Great Britain. So Connie was as usual a third-rate talent without an ounce of artistic integrity or creativity grinding out product to make a buck.

And Jive Connie was strictly a novelty record for the Germans, treated as a joke. To try to claim it made her relevant at that point in time is laughable.

Of course those bitches toured Germany (and some even recorded a few tracks in German) but none of them left as lasting impression over there as Connie did. And do I have to remind you that Musty Springfield was booed off stage at the Golden Lions awards - I've never read of anything like that happening to Connie. The European audience simply loved Connie, even when she wasn't at her vocal best (like at her London Palladium shows).

And "Schöner fremder Mann" (which was a monster hit in Deutschland in the 60s and is still being covered all the time to this very day) wasn't a cover of someone's else song, idiot at R417. Also, "Jive Connie Jive" did better in local charts than the hits of people like Michael Jackson and Annie Lennox, which were also released around the same time, did. Joke, my ass.

It's actually pretty amazing how Connie, who was Rock'n'Roll queen in the 50s, managed to reinvent herself as a schlager icon in the 60s.

Another impressive fact - "Jive Connie Jive" was competing with Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" in German charts - Connie peaked at #2, while Nirvana peaked at #3. Connie was MORE POPULAR THAN NIRVANA!

Connie, die Schlager-Königin, serenading her beloved German fans. Notice the display of awful 90s fashion in the audience.

Beautiful.

R421 I agree. She was obviously lip-syncing there (and it looks like she almost fell down the stairs in the beginning) but it was still a mesmerizing performance. She looked like a beautiful schlager goddess in that sparkling blue dress.

Here's another American who was huge on the Mitteleuropean schlager scene in the 80s. But unlike Connie she didn't even try to sing in German (she probably lacked Connie's good ear for languages).

I stand corrected - Landers DID sing in German, she just didn't record this particular song (which happened to be her biggest hit) in Deutsch.

R420 Is the joke on us or is Connie a man? After that picture with that square jaw and linebacker shoulders, the tune of drag queen is screaming off the page. Just sayin...

Those other ladies singing in Germany had careers that didn't depend on success there.

From the song, to the dress, to the singing style, the clip at R420 shows what a joke she became.

Connie looks like a chunky, old drag queen, as she lip-syncs and wander through the crowd hoping someone will slip her a Deutsche Mark.

Why was she always styled like she was 20 years older, but still living 30 years ago?

R426 You are aware that Germany happens to be the most populated country in Europe, right? Any singer would kill to have Connie's success and iconic status in a huge and profitable market like that.

And that "joke" still managed to outsell Nirvana there, and that's after 30 years of retirement and releasing a song just for fun.

R429 She is still the top selling female in Germany.

Who cares? She's still a washed-up has-been with a sappy approach to singing. Selling records in Germany means nothing in terms of quality or artistry -- just that a lot of Germans had shitty taste in music. These are the same people who think David Hasselhof is a musical genius.

"Quality" and "artistry" are both highly subjective terms but record sales aren't. And when it comes to those, there's no use denying that Connie was an INTERCONTINENTAL MEGASTAR!

r430, link, please. I can't seem to find that "fact" anywhere.

Connie hanging out with music producer Gerhard Mendelson (on the right) in Munich. He was the one who was largely responsible for introducing Concetta to the German audience and for producing her hits over there.

Apparently the first German song they recorded together was a mess, because people couldn't understand Connie's German, so they had to cut out the entire first verse. But Connie's German later got much better.

I love this duet Connie did with another schlager icon, Peter Kraus. This song is pure 90s Eurocheese but I LOVE it. And it proves that Connie could still sound amazing, even in her 50s.

R435 TENS of dollars were spent on that production.

Wow, are people posting these German clips and photos as a joke? They just make her look and sound ridiculous.

[quote]"Connie Francis IS the Polka Music Queen of Southwest Bavaria!"

R437 Nope. Schlager music may seem like a joke to the outsiders but we take it very seriously around here. Unfortunately it's a dying art form. Eurovision Song Contest used to be a big showcase for schlager music but you rarely hear a good schlager there anymore. It's all generic, quasi-house music these days. Luckily we'll always have all these nice old schlager records, including Connie's, to treasure.

Still waiting on links for ALL of the bullshit claims Connie's sycophants make in her threads. And Connie's bio is not considered a reputable source.

So once again, Connie is the pin-up queen for a schmaltzy type of music that no one under the age of 70, and those with the same geriatric tastes, consider relevant. Please, take her as your idol. No one else wants her.

The Connie trolls actually think her Octoberfest beer-hall music is good! They don't understand the damage they do to Connie Francis by posting it. If they really cared about her, it's stuff they'd keep secret.

Drag queens in thread mad at Connie about her international stardom.You gurls sound like a bunch jealous hasbeens who never will never be anything. Mad your stans aren't at the level Connie Francis has attained. ..and still maintains. Suffer you miserable bitches

Connie Francis was Josef Mengele's favorite singer and he would fly her down to South America so he could slip her a little "schnitzel" while she crooned phonetically-learned versions of German dancehall tunes into his ear. He was so enamored of her, he had her cloned and even today you can see different versions of Connie, all in their 60s, waddling around Brasilia, Brazil, where Dr. Mengele had maintained his lab.

R398 I do think that "C__nless Connie" was her least danceable LP.

Even worse than "Cocktail Connie" and "Constipated Connie" and "Codependent Connie."

I meant R395, not R398.

[quote]"Sadly, Connie's string of successes in Bavarian beer gardens and afternoon television came to a close with the release of 'Mein Schritt Riecht Nach Kot.' It was banned from being played on the radio and in public. While Connie never knew what the song was about, it appears that German lovers of good music had written it especially for her."

After her trmendous chart success on the Billboard Hot 100, she had a number of hits make the Billboard Adult Contemporary Chart in the mid 1960s to early 1970s. She had the first #1 on the Adult Contemporary chart, My Happiness, which was also a million seller on the Billboard Hot 100 chrat.

More schlagertastic fabulousness from Concetta. Connie can rock even a stage as tacky-looking as this one.

Beautiful

Do we have any German speakers around here? I'm interested in hearing how her German sounds to them.

I understand why these threads fascinate us so....

If I say, for instance, Judy Garland was the greatest female entertainer of her time...even though its just an opinion..I would have some sort of proof.......some sort of - and this is the important here - verified evidence - to back that claim up by what the entertainment industry and beyond would consider "standards of excellence or achievement.".

Grammy awards or nominations

Oscar awards or nominations

Emmy Awards or nominations

Tony Award or nominations

A career that doesn't not peak and ebb but successfully morphs from decade to decade..

A substantial body of work on film, TV and records...

Cher had a number one song in every decade for 40 years.

Sinatra had his first top 10 hit in 1939 and his last top ten hit in 1979.

Crowing that Connie is the "Schnitzel queen of Bavaria"......while deriding the real achievements of others is what keeps us coming back to this thread...

......fascinating..

[quote] Cher had a number one song in every decade for 40 years.

That's a lie - Cher never had a #1 hit in the 80s, at least not on Billboard Hot 100 (and we all know that's the only chart that actually counts). And Connie's singles were a lot more successful than Cher's were - Connie's had 81 singles on Hot 100 chart and Cher has only had 49! Before Connie became the Bavarian schnitzel queen, she also happened to be THE QUEEN OF BILLBOARD!

R451 I'm not a native speaker but I can easily understand her. But yes, her pronunciation is a bit rough around the edges.

Schnitzel queen, looking as gorgeous as ever, posing with two of her greatest treasures - her accordion and her dog.

Connie's celebrity and international fame keep the down-trodden haters coming back [R452]

Thanks for picture [R454].....Connie looks so regal and she is sitting like a Queen.I can't recall ever seeing barefoot,hillbilly Brenda lee,stoned Dusty or even ugly Petula Clark ever looking as regal in any pictures like this.Guess their low class upbringings prevented it.Much like their stans,who wouldn't know "high class"...if it walked up to their trailer's and knocked.Indignant Trash always shows you that....Connie haters can't help it.

Love the photo at r454 A study in mid century modern.

I love how bringing up Connie's impressive Billboard Hot 100 stats scares away her haters for a while. But they come back sooner or later, with yet another lame rape joke.

[quote]While other performers at Westbury Music Fair were saddened to hear what happened to Connie at the Howard Johnson's later, few seemed shocked. "We all knew she was going back to the motel to score some smack," said one headliner, who asked that his name not be used. "I've been there. It's dangerous. You never know who will show up when you're out of town. I'm mean, look man, they're all criminals."

You are right:

In the 1980's Cher did not have a number 1 on your bible Billboard ..

She did however have the following hits on the Billboard (Connie Schnitzel Bible):

1988 "I Found Some #10t 1988t"We All Sleep Alone" t#14tt 1989t"After All"t #6t 1989 "If I Could Turn Back Time"t#3t 1898 "Just Like Jesse James"t #8

4 major box office films.....She also had two Golden Globe (in competition for acting)....Two Oscar nomination..1 Oscar win...

What did Connie have in the 1980's.....

Lithium????

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All they have are rape jokes,the jokes about Connie's medication or how old Connie is. Its mundane humor from obviously very sad,pathetic people jealous of Connie's star.An Connie loves them too because its money in her bank,thanks haters...your giving Connie free publicity and more record sales.

R459 You conveniently stopped at 1989 and failed to mention what awaited Cher right after that...At least Connie never made such a spectacle of herself on national television.

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Probably on purpose since most if not all Connie haters look exactly like Lori Davis....

[quote]"Connie was one crazy chick, if you know what I mean," said Sammy Davis, Jr. "I was into all scenes. But Connie? Freaky! When she sang "My Heart Belongs to Daddy" in the Congo Room, she would almost finger herself. It was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, but I always got the impression her tongue had been somewhere else. Since her Daddy was in the front booth. Freaky shit, man."

[quote]"Connie was crazy," said Alphonso Dawson. "I mean she was nice and all when we was playing, but she had a reputation. She was bad into smack back then, you know, and. Jimmy, the drummer, said he watch her lick her own -- well, I ain't gonna say that word here. He also say she lick her -- well, I ain't' gonna say that either -- but I doubt that. I only see he lick the front."

[quote]I went back to her dressing room. I had heard Connie wasn't feeling well. When I opening the door, I knew she had injected. She was moaning and saying things I didn't understand. All of a sudden, a black baby came out from under her sequined miniskirt. It was attached to a bright pink umbilical cord. I thought childbirth took hours, but that had happened in minutes, right before my eyes. Connie stood up, which must have taken such amazing strength. And she started swaying her pelvis front to back. The black baby started to swing. At first, gently. Then, violently. It was swinging back and forth. Quickly. Suddenly, it broke free of the cord and smashed against her dressing room wall. Without looking, Connie sat back down. "Sammy can never know," she said, before drifting off into a sleep so deep it looked like a coma. I looked for some paper towels and a plastic bag.

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A potato shaped bigot still mad Brenda Lee cheated on her husband with Bobby Darin (who loved Connie Francis).

Get over it heifer,nobody loved Brenda Lee. Not even her parents,who let her travel on the road alone at age 13 with Bill Haley and the Comets. Singing "Rock around the clock tonight"

[quote] Connie haters look exactly like Lori Davis.

Let me fix that - Connie haters look exactly like Chris Farley in a Lori Davis drag.

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THANK you kindly

Did Sammy Davis, Jr. ever find out about his child?

Ok '

Cher swung hard with the Shampoo Shit and lost...

Agreed..

But the point is she SWUNG HARD...She actually MADE a choice!

You keep pulling out BILLBOARD because it is ALL YOU HAVE.

Cher made an error.

...but she made that error after a career filled with risk taking and culminating in an Academy Award ...

What did Connie ever do that's comparable?

and NO.........,"Schnitzel Queen" does not COUNT!! It doesn't compare to an Oscar! Ask, Meryl!

CONNIE DREAMS OF A WIENER SCHNITZEL by Jimmy Jungermann (The Billboard Magazine: May 16 , 1960)

VIENNA - A convoy of 11 cars hustled thru Vienna early this afternoon. This splendid combination of an American highway patrolman and Viennese charme called "Wachmann," led the convoy 15 miles from the Schwechat airport to the Rosenhuegel film and TV studios. There was no "gemutlichkiet" in the streets at this hour. The convoy arrived just in time to start with the shooting of a recorded Peter Kraus TV show. Guest star: Connie Francis. Lovely Connie was invited by Gerhard Mendelson, producer of Polydor, German representative for the M-G-M label. At noon a crowd of some 100 fans, newsmen, TV and newsreel people waited at the airport. Said one official: "Ach, what's going on here? Who is coming? A VIP of political fame, or a king?" He didn't see a crowd like this for a long time.

When Connie arrived, teenager idol Peter Kraus was pretty nervous. He nearly forgot the big bunch of flowers for Connie. She answered with a kiss. Billboard's welcome was a Munich beer jug full of delicious and refreshing Vienna beer. Connie and Peter emptied the jug within a short time. Connie was really thirsty after the long flight from London via Copenhagen to Vienna. When I asked her: "Say, Connie, I know you like good food. How about Viennese food?" She answered: "How about a Wiener Schnitzel?" But Herr Mendelson said: "No, not now.""

At Rosenhugel Connie attented a trade show of a TV featurette, "15 Minutes With Peter Kraus." She applauded and said: "Peter, this is a wonderful show. I sure like to work with you." When we left the movie room I noticed two good friends going side by side: Connie and Peter. I asked Herr Mendelson again, "Let's go to the canteen for a Wiener Schnitzel!" All he said was, "No. Not now." The shooting schedule was two hours overtime. No more waste of time was allowed. Poor Connie had to start work. Rehearsals. And rehearsals again. You know the work in a studio. Connie sang "Among My Souvenirs" over and over again. She forgot the Wiener Schnitzel. She worked hard.

In a pause, Connie told me, "Tomorrow morning I leave Vienna and return to London to record three new LP's for M-G-M, a Spanish one, a Jewish one, and an Italian one. Later this evening I have a talk with Herr Mendelson. I'm going to record duets with Peter Kraus here in Vienna. Then I should stay for a week or so in this wonderful city to see all these fine buildings, to visit these magnificent churches and to be all alone in one of them for a while! I should like to visit good old Anton Karas in his "Third Man Pub" and all the other places in Grinzing, famous for wine and gaiety, and to order one Wiener Schnitzel a day without hurry, but with all the gemutlichkeit!"

Connie returned to the TV stage to continue her work with Peter Kraus. When I left for the airport, Herr Mendelson told me, "Here's important news for you and Billboard. You're the first one to hear the news. Tonight I will invite Connie to play and sing in a German movie. Her partner will be Peter Kraus." Connie Francis was still working. From far behind in the studio I heard her say "Good Bye, Jimmy!" On the way to Schwechat the studio assistant said, "What a girl, what a girl! We sure got a new standard for film and TV work this afternoon. Connie Francis seems to have one thing only in her mind: Work and work again." That's right. But sometimes she's dreaming of a Wiener Schnitzel.

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So according to your infantile logic, Cher is compared to Meryl Streep. ...your an idiot.

If Cher,a bonafied lounge singer can error so can Connie Francis.Period.At the end of the day,all that matters is what fans appreciate. Not your rape fantasies,drug rants or petty sarcasm.

Your mad Connie Francis is at a level you will never attain Baroness.So going on and on only reflects the misery that is apparently YOUR low budget life. Clue....leave your grandmothers basement and get out more.Your obsession with Connie Francis boarders on those unhealthy obsessions men/some women have with sexualizing their parents(parental figures).Especially since you supposedly hate Connie's music right Sunshine.

oops wrong thread.^^

Connie hasn't posted on social media lately,i am getting worried.... :(

I hope Americas first pop star is okay

No one in their right mind would compare Cher, or really, anyone with relevance, to faded nostalgia act Connie Francis. So on Datalounge, of course, her enfeebled trolls think she's the greatest superstar who ever lived even though she peaked more than 50 years ago and her output, while prolific, was limited to forgotten ditties typical of the era or foreign novelties not even worthy of discussion. But by all means, let's move on to thread #5. Their impotent rage at the lack of respect accorded their midget queen is the only thing keeping her trolls off life support. They should be grateful; this is the most attention the octogenarian mobsterette has had in decades. Well, aside from her non-star studded Friars party.

Is the person who keeps making references to Connie's short stature aware that she was still taller than his idols Brenda Lee and Petula 'Buttahface' Clark were - Connie was 156 cm tall, while Clark was 155 and Lee 145 cm "tall".

Wikipedia defines dwarfs as persons who are shorter than 147 cm, which means Lee is officially a dwarf!

r476, funny you didn't disagree about anything else r475 said, like "faded nostalgia act," "forgotten ditties," or "not even worthy of discussion." Or even "enfeebled trolls." So at least you're realistic enough to accept those things as givens. You took exception to the comment about her height by claiming her to be taller than people who were bigger stars and better singers. Wow, there's an achievement! How hard it must be to have to constantly find obscure facts to build up your loser of an idol! Really, looking up the heights of Connie's betters so you'd have something to post. Must have a lot of time on your hands at the nursing home after you're done with your jello.

Connie might have been 5'1" in heels in her youth, but that, like her relevance, was a long time ago. She's obviously shrunk over time and is probably around 4'8" or so now. Maybe more when she wears her 'big' wigs.

5'1" of nothing but pure gorgeousness:

Schnitzel queen being wooed by a bunch of hunky sailors.

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That disgusting Trollop dosen't even know how tall his stans are,but mad about Connie's height. Its insane,certified an probably off its medications again.

[R477].....gurl take your self hating,delusional polyester wearing,non girdle fitting,multiple baby daddy having inbred ass back to bed.We are celebrating Connie Francis in this thread. Not you or your various mental health issues. Jezabel

Concetta with the best selling Italian musician of all time Adriano Celentano and Peppino di Capri. Not sure who the other chick is.

That loon can't stand the fact that numbers are always on Connie's side - she was taller, had more singles, recorded in more languages, was a household name in a bigger number of countries...Numbers never lie!

[quote]Concetta with the best selling Italian musician of all time

More bullshit. Far, far from the truth.

r479, thanks for finding a photo that perfectly encapsulates Connie's height deficit there. She looks like a Munchkin at her senior prom.

Connie looks like the sailors' mother in r480. And the only reason young men would have been interested in her was to have been paid for it, as these models were.

Oooops I stand corrected...I thought it was another bullshit claim...."Connie Francis best selling Italian musician of all time..."

No it is indeed Celentano. And that other woman is Roberta Stoppa.

He'd never stoop to singing with Connie francis.

Celentano is indeed the real deal in Italy and is thought to be the second highest selling recording artist there. But he was merely at the same event as Connie Francis some 50 odd years ago. To claim some kind of connection or relevance at this point in time is comical.

R486 Celentano is a known egomaniac. He'd never sing with someone who might eclipse his own talent, which is probably the reason he never did a duet with Concetta. But he obviously didn't feel threatened by Butterface Clark.

^Sure, Troll.

Exactly, r488. The same reason Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett never asked Connie to duet with them: fear of being overshadowed.

R491 - only Bobby Darin's, so I hear.

[quote]Celentano is a known egomaniac. He'd never sing with someone who might eclipse his own talent...

Besides Petula Clark, Celentano did duet after duet with Mina and with Dalida. Female singers that are considered among the best in Europe.The last thing he'd do is stoop to singing with Connie Francis.

Skiing with Petula Clark and Nino Ferrer

Connie was Mother Teresa's favorite singer so Connie tried to learn the lyrics to "Where the Boys Are" in Hindi to impress her. Aside from not considering the ramifications of sending a trifling beach song about looking for premarital sex to a revered member of the Catholic church, Connie's slurry pronunciation of the word "are" actually came out as the word "fart," which created an international brouhaha. So that's why Connie turned to the Jews. She was better at Yiddish.

Connie being driven around Roma on a Vespa by an Italian twink. Real ladies cross their legs even when riding a motorcycle!

Grammy-winning international superstar Petula Clark still getting raves.

Look again, r496. That's the dyke Connie was paying to be her "tour guide" in Rome. They were later thrown out of the Hotel Putanesca, a fleabag they were staying at in the city's red light district, because Connie's bull-like grunts and roars in their room that evening were scaring the other guests.

Petula with Europe's other male superstar Johnny Hallyday

Petula singing with '60s swinging chicks Sylvie Vartan and Francoise Hardy.

Connie celebrated her recent birthday by getting a makeover at the cosmetics counter at the Parklands Walgreens and a blowout at Great Clips.

Connie is an international superstar.An her friends are members of the jet set elite.You jealous whores might as well get over it.Suck in your girdled guts and STFU....Connie haters in this thread are low class trollops

Why is butterfaced Petula Clark always singing about eating her pussy (Downtown )

Brenda Lee was whored by Bill Haley and his Comets

Musty Springfield. ...well her disfunctional family messed her up from birth

Here's a pic from Connie's actual 80th birthday party. She looks spectacular for an 80-year old.

Another pic of a slightly younger Connie cutting a yummy-looking cake with Peter Kraus, though I'm not sure what the occasion was here.

[quote]“Oh, yeah, I love Connie Francis,” said Hattie Jones with a warm smile. “She’s a peach that one. A real peach. She’s been coming in here for years. Years. Always a smile. She used to come in once a week. Maybe get some wine. After a years or so, she switched on over to vodka. A fancy one. Then, she switched to Gilbert's. Which was just smart shopping, if you ask me. I loved seeing her. And, before I knows it, it was twice a day. She’d come in and buy her a liter of vodka in the morning. And be back for another that afternoon. I told her, ‘Miss, Connie, why don’t you just get you the bigger bottle? Save a dang trip.’ And she would say, ‘Now, how could I possibly drink that much? What would Daddy in heaven say? What would fans think I am?’ I just laughed like she wanted me to. Last year, I was talking to Kitty down the way at that tiny liquor store outside city limits, and she said she saw Connie all the time there, too. No wonder Connie forgets to put her teeth in some times. I mean to say. I hardly ever see her no more when her hair ain’t on crooked. Bless her heart. Still just as nice as all get out though. Love her.”

Speaking of cakes, j'adore this song:

[quote]Real ladies cross their legs even when riding a motorcycle!

R496: A real lady only crosses her legs at the ankles; never the knees.

All of the above singers envied Connie's record sales, concert pull, and overall popularity.

Concetta pictured with yet another Italian superstar, Miss Gigliola Cinquetti:

Connie dueted with the best

r509, that was right before the other woman slapped Connie's hands away and stormed off, screaming, "Keepa your filthy dyke hands offa me, you crazy bitch!"

R510 Both were finished by 1965. But Pat Boone....being a true cultural icon ... was able to continue as a television personality.

r504, that's not the Peter Krauss that anybody knows or cares about.

R509 That's the edition of SanRemo were Connie Francis sang a forgettable song with former child singer Gigliola Cinquetti.

Dusty Springfield on the other hand left that edition of SanRemo with "Io che non vivo (senza the)" rewritten for her as "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me"...one of the all time greatest pop standards.

r503, that's an amazing photo. It was taken right before Connie pitched forward face down in the cake, not only burning her false eyelashes off but singeing her favorite wig. Luckily, the hairpiece was made with 100% artificial fibers and extinguished itself before any real damage was done.

Yet another pic of Connie with a cake, this time a wedding one. That's hubby #1 next to her.

...and yet another cake.

...and another cake!

R514 Connie's performance of the song was spectacular.

That was an amazing song. 60s Italian canzoni all had amazing orchestrations, with all those lush violins. Too bad Connie didn't record more music with Italian producers.

R520 The love Italian Style LP was recorded in Milan with Italian musicians - an unusual and magnificent LP. It is the last of her Italian LPs and all of the tracks can be found on the 2 set Italian Collection (v I and V. II). However, there is something to be said about the original track listing of that LP.

Schnitzel Queen meets the Queen of England. Connie really knew how to curtsy gracefully.

Different angle. Does anyone know who the goofy-looking guy next to Prince Philipp is? He can't seem to hide his excitement about seeing Connie from up close.

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Connie is dear friends with Gigliola.....who is now a respected news journalist. ....wow Connie Francis sure does have powerful friends.

Unlike piggy Brenda Lee,who is probably shunned by members of the jet set because she doesn't wear shoes

R519 This song can be found on The Italian Collection LPs.

[quote]Well, I don’t know. All I can tell you is that in Vegas, you get a reputation quick. And it sticks. Like glue. People liked Connie, but she got a reputation for being a snatch sniffer. Now, you have to understand, Vegas, back then, was all about what men wanted to do to women, not what women wanted. And I have no idea if any of that was true about Connie. To paraphrase Mae West, she never sniffed my snatch. And I would have let her. Can I say that? Just delete it if I can’t. But I would! Well, until she got fat. I have nothing against a bull dagger. But I hate fat people. No will power. And you need that in this biz. You need it in spades!

Do we have pics from all four of Connie's weddings?

It's amazing to think that Stevie Nicks, who was just voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo act, along with Janet Jackson, is only a decade younger than Connie Francis. They might as well have been from different centuries.

Of course, Connie has always had that Italian mafia moll thing going with the big hair and overdone makeup and gaudy clothing, not to mention that old-fashioned style of warbling her fans love so much. It's nice they take such comfort in her recordings from 50+ years ago, bringing back memories of a time when they had all of their teeth and didn't need Depends.

Wow, Dusty sang in Italian, too! She really blows Connie out of the water! Looks so much prettier, too.

Poor Connie, just a little guido girl from Joisey.

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Musty tries hard to mimic Connie.Big hair,heavy makeup.....But Musty's buttah face ruins it all.

So sad for her and her grotesque fans who are equally ugly and potatoe shaped with cankles squeezed into run over heels.

Wait, is this bitch still alive?

Dusty will always be remembered in Italy for "Io che non vivo (senza te)"

The song is still covered here....most recently by Giorgia.

Connie Francis is perhaps still remembered by a grandmother or two.

Petula's mega hit "Downtown" in Italian.

Note how Petula and Dusty sound contemporary...in tune with the mid 60s. Connie sounds like 1962.

Oh no, the cunty Italian guy is back. I hope you choke on some panettone next week.

It's just funny reading these posts about CF in Italy. No one here wants to listen to that stuff of hers. Well, maybe some nonnas somewhere in Calabria do.

Meanwhile Cher and Gianni Morandi play the area of Verona.

I'm sure Cher felt right at home, lip-syncing at the Veronese arena - it's one of the few buildings from her childhood days still left standing.

R536...like other 1960s singers...Tina Turner, Diana Ross....Cher is still a star here. Connie Who??

Vikki Carr another actual star in Italy is impeccable in Italian.... listen to her mega hit "It Must Be Him"

I just checked Vikki Carr's Billboard Hot 100 history - only 7 charted songs and just one of them reached top 10. Poor girl, no wonder she had to seek asylum in Europe - no one in her home country seemed to care for her and her music.

As for those others you mentioned - Cher and Ross could never hold a candle to Connie when it comes to the vocal department. Ross always sounded whispery and Cher had a very limited vocal range and hasn't sung live in decades. The only one from that list I don't have anything bad to say about is Swiss singer Tina Turner, one of the few 60s stars who measures up to Concetta.

[quote]no one in her home country seemed to care for her and her music.

Lol. Vikki the woman who hosted the Tonight show...and appeared on it countless times... won a Lifetime Achievement Grammy... starred in "Follies" in LA.... and on and on.

Bacharach never would have called Connie Francis (of all people) for this:

Bacharach was involved with Vicki aka Florencia,ask Angie Dickinson

Connie didn't need him,she had Sedaka

I'm not sure how one of Connie's trolls can make a joke about Cher's age when Connie is 20 years older than her. And looks older than Cher's mother.

Likewise, when Connie takes her branded overemotive screeching abroad, the Italian people are lined up at the docks to see her. But other singers are "desperate."

I guess if you're a Connie Francis Troll, you have to grasp at something, though. Lord knows, Has-Been Connie, with her sappy songs and whiny voice, not to mention her career dead in the water for decades, doesn't give them much to work with.

It's obvious that Cosmo-Guzzling Connie has a volunteer press agent here, because you could not be a normal person and have interest in or access to the obscure facts and photos about an irrelevant relic from the mid-20th century that have been posted. The sad thing is, all of his musical clips and memorabilia just show Connie to be exactly what she was: a third-rate crooner with sappy songs who grasped at any opportunity to make a buck. Every post is more laughable than the previous one.

Link, please R540.

And let's ask, oh, anyone who knows anything about popular music from the past 60 years: who would you have rather had in your corner? Burt Bacharach or Neil Sedaka?

And of course there would have been no hanky-panky between Connie and Neil. He was the one who liked dick and she was the one who liked pussy.

[quote]Connie didn't need him,she had Sedaka

She had Sedaka? Sedaka hadn't written for Connie Francis in a decade. Anyway... she didn't have him: he saved his contemporary hits for Karen Carpenter and Toni Tenille.

Connie had the best songwriters and the best choice of material throughout her career. And she had the voice and technique to take every song to its highest and best use.

Cultural appropriation be damned! Connie's salute to our 50th state!

R545 LOL. Only the best for Connie.

R546 It's 1968 and she's doing album covers with photos that look like it's 1954. It's 1968...and she's singing "Tiny Bubbles". By now even Lawrence Welk would have considered her passè.

Dalida and Johnny Hallyday (for whom Connie haters expressed admiration above) also recorded their own versions of "Itsy Bitsy". Does that mean they're jokes as well?!

It's like when they mocked Connie's height, not knowing that their own idols were even tinier. The joke is obviously on them.

[quote]Dalida and Johnny Hallyday (for whom Connie haters expressed admiration above) also recorded their own versions of "Itsy Bitsy". Does that mean they're jokes as well?!

First of all: they introduced the song to Europe and they sang it in 1960 when the song was still fresh.

Connie Francis recorded it in 1967.... by now embarrassingly out of date...before it could even be considered retro.

Fierce!

^Did Connie's father also do all of the art direction and photography for her albums and promotional materials? Nothing but the best for HIS little girl!

All of the graphics for her stuff...album covers etc...look like they were done for 8$ at a booth in some strip mall.

Yes, Connie obviously wasn't able to afford the genius who put Petula Clark's covers together:

Sad how the troll has no defense for Connie's many shortcomings so only can deflect on to someone else. Pitiful. But so is Connie, so I guess that's why he's such a fan.

While Connie Francis was singing "Tiny Bubbles" and "Itsy Bitsy" ....Petula was recording "Sign of the Times"

Miss Petula Clark ...choreography by Michael Bennett (he's the guy who loses his hat).

Plus Lulu and Nancy! Meanwhile Connie Francis is singing her Grandfrau music....

R558 Oh God, that clip was cringeworthy. If you want to make Connie look bad at least compare her to someone like Nina Simone or Tina Turner, because comparing Connie to that milquetoast Brit buttahface is only making her look even more amazing.

[R559]

It definitely was....Buttahface looked constipated, which is why the Connie trolls loved it. They are constipated too.....in their ill fitting girdles and filthy bras,an their polyester jumpsuits never fit their 400+ pound bodies.Poor things.

[quote]at least compare her to someone like Nina Simone or Tina Turner,

Nina Simone... Tina Turner?

Miss Clark performed with Tina Turner. Not in a million years would Connie Francis have been included among this line up. And Tina wouldn't be caught dead on the same stage with CF.

[quote]Oh God, that clip was cringeworthy.

Only for you.

After her many TV appearances including hosting the Hollywood Palace, Clark was given her own TV specials...3 of them. They won Emmys. (Not to mention the 2 major Hollywood musicals....one with Fred Astair, the other with Peter O'Toole).

Please post some all-out production numbers... dancers, back up singers, choreography that any TV network ever gave to Connie Francis.

We're looking forward to seeing them.

Please, please, Lord Jesus Christ, Satan, or Allah, or whoever doesn't have the day off, END this fucking pissing contest about Connie Francis. This includes the detractors, the supporters, the unemployed wannabe comedy writer hacks, the delusionists, the statistics manipulators, the poor historians, and the "Sure, Jan" cunt. All of you. This was funny and entertaining for the first thread. It is now excruciating and just plain insufferable and ridiculous. No one under 50 would even endure on this thread for more than 2 posts, despite citings of Connie's many 27 year old admirers.

Like a doctor delivering a cancer diagnosis, here it is: CONNIE IS DONE. She's been done for DECADES. STOP TRYING TO MAKE HER INTO SOMETHING SHE ISN'T AND NEVER WAS. DL, please alert your winged monkeys NOT TO ALLOW A FIFTH THREAD ON THIS WOMAN and destroy those that already exist. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. There is nothing this woman has done that will stand (or has stood) the test of time or will be listened to for generations to come. Not "Mama," not "Who's Sorry Now," or any of the over-orchestrated lame attempts at covers of standards, none of which were memorable or definitive in ANY WAY, nor will ever be associated exclusively with Connie Francis. DO YOU GET THE POINT?????? OVER. DONE. ACABADO. NO FIFTH THREAD.

Lunch at the Francis house. Looks like Mamma Francis prepared some good hearty Italian stew for her family.

Papa Francis' collection of Connie's album covers on his wall.

Connie dreaming away the day in her childhood bedroom:

's obvious that Cosmo-Guzzling Connie has a volunteer press agent here, because you could not be a normal person and have interest in or access to the obscure facts and photos about an irrelevant relic from the mid-20th century that have been posted.

LOL You have tremendous interest in Connie! No one knows who Vikki Carr is!

As for Diana sounding "Whispery"...here is Grammy winning and Academy Award nominated Miss. Ross singing the shit out of "Lady is a Tramp"...lets hear Connie's version...

I bet its a pip...

R544 Neil did not write for Connie in the 1970s because she was out of commission at the time.

R568 She sounds ridiculous on this clip. Diana really had a weak voice and when sea attempted something like this, her voice sounbded very tinny.

That Hawaii LP was at the request of President Nixon for the celebration of Hawaii's 10th anniversary as a state.

Oh that's just more bullshit. And besides...Hawaii entered the union in 1969. Not 1968 when that album was released. It did not make a dent in any charts and appears nowhere in any celebration of the state.

Singer sponsored the Don Ho special at the time...who was at the height of his popularity. No Connie Francis.

And Perry Como did his celebration of the state.

With Petula Clark of course.

Sold out, bitches!

Connie Francis sold out a show at the fabulous Gold Country Casino and Hotel in Oroville, California. Alert the media.

R572 Are you crazy! Hawaii became a state in 1959! Nixon did request it for the 10th anniversary.

R576Connie sold out no matter where she was appearing! She never had to worry about that.

Connie getting her hair done.

Link, please, to President Nixon requesting an album for Hawaii from Connie.

Connie sings "Sunrise, Sunset" from Fiddler on the Roof live in a 1966 concert (audio only, unfortunately). You can also hear her telling her classic "I'm 10% Jewish" joke in the beginning.

Fuck, it never ceases to amaze me how beautiful and powerful she sounded in her prime! Too bad she never did Broadway.

[quote]Are you crazy! Hawaii became a state in 1959! Nixon did request it for the 10th anniversary.

My post should have read: "Hawaii entered the union in 1959...the 10 year celebration was not in 1968 when that album was released. "

r581 perfectly demonstrates the problem with Connie Francis. Every song is sung exactly the same way -- she makes it all about herself -- and has nothing to do with the song itself. She never connects with or even seems to understand the lyrics. Haha, she never would have lasted a second on Broadway, and it's pretty telling that she was never asked to join a show.

We should start choosing a pic for thread #5. Should we go with Geisha Connie this time?

Connie looks magnificent in all her pictures.So classy and beautiful, with an elegance that Petula Clark,Brenda Lee and Musty Springfield could never pull off.Connie haters in this thread,you all are low budget ,fat miserable slobs mad your stans mimicked Connie and did a lousy job.

Don't hate the player,hate the game.Peasants

OMG, that is a scream! Someplace there has to be a collection of all of Connie's ridiculous album covers, with their seriously dated pics and album titles. I'm sure her trolls have them all. Please share and give us all a laugh.

Constipated Connie looks the same in every old photo: middle-aged. And then when she became middle-aged, she looked 20 years older. Joisey Goils like her never age well; they booze it up and don't exercise and with them, more is more. More makeup, more hair dye, more garish clothes and jewelry. More bad plastic surgery and godawful wigs. If Connie wasn't such a whore for attention, she should have hidden herself away out of embarrassment for being such a mobster moll has-been.

Concetta is probably the only person in this world who can wear even something as silly as a sequined captain hat and make it werk!

^Ooops, what a mistake! That's the drag queen Corny Fuckface. The resemblance is remarkable, tho!

Mocking an 80-year old woman's appearance...Connie haters are a real classy bunch, no doubt about it.

Magnificent performance of Sunrise Sunset. Connie not only feels the lyrics, but, as Don Black said, she lives them. She does not always sound the same. She feels each song.

^You must have your hearing aid turned off. She sounded terrible on the song and has no connection to the lyrics at all. She might as well have been singing, "Where the Goys Are."

Let this thread end. NO PART FIVE.

[quote]You must have your hearing aid turned off. She sounded terrible on the song and has no connection to the lyrics at all. She might as well have been singing, "Where the Goys Are."

Matt Munro....this is a master of phrasing at work on "Sunrise, Sunset". Note how he gives just the right pause and emphasis... how he tells the story of the song...giving every word meaning. The lyrics come alive. The song builds to a conclusion. Direct and clear.

,,,,Jesus - even Matt is better than Connie...and Matt was no Bobby Darin...

I'm surprised Monro managed to put the bottle down for three whole minutes to record that track.

He look like he sounds...dull...a little bloated.....no sense of swing but hes really fine here..

Bobby Darin sings like he looks too...big cock with a hairy glossy bush..

Some Bobby cock!

Bull dyke Connie Francis was offered the part of Tevye in the Scranton production of "Fiddler" but her father made her turn it down so she could take a job at another Indian casino in the Poconos. What might have been!

Has anyone seen that Spacey's Bobby Darin vanity project? Is Connie in it?

That's a masterful rendition of Sunrise/Sunset by Matt Munro.... notice that the word "tears" only appears at the very end. The whole song builds to that final word. Not so on the Connie Francis' version. She just doesn't get it. And that's the difference between someone who knows what they're doing and someone who doesn't.

r600, nope

I think she sounded great on Sunrise Sunset.

Live At The Sahara LP...All Music Review.

AllMusic Review by Cub Koda A late-'60s live album, with Francis in peak form.

R600 Connie is not in it, nor is Biobby's second wife. They made it look like The Bobby Darin/Sandra Dee marriage was idealistic. IThe movie was not a true bio.