Hereditary- the movie

Another critics' darling of a movie that completely falls apart by the end.

She has some kind of medical condition that makes her look so strange. I can't remember what it is. I thought she was the most disturbing thing in the film.

Just wait.....

Shame that such an unsightly child prompts a huge YAY from the audience...no empathy at all when I saw it in the cinema!

It was featured on a recent flight and I backed out. I feared trauma in the air.

Milly Shapiro, the strange looking "Charlie" must have a hell of a set of stage parents. She began vocal training at the age of THREE and acting at five when she began performing. She was "discovered" at the age of ten and began training as a professional actress-singer, when she moved to New York be in the Broadway show Matilda.

She's active in some kind of anti-bullying movement. Has she been bullied? That's never been established, but certainly her looks may have incited some bullying. In addition to her odd facial features she's stunted at 4'10. I seem to recall hearing about the medical condition she has somewhere, but now it seems to be kept under wraps, maybe so as to not do anything to harm her show business career.

Don't expect any dataloungers like R1 to understand the magnificence and beauty of this film.

The greatest supernatural horror/thriller since the Wicker Man. A tale of diabolical ceremonial magic with themes of the subjective universe (her dioramas) altering and mirroring the objective one. Stunning performance from Colette and ensemble cast.

The guy who plays her brother is pretty hot.

I loved it!

BTW, is there a cinematic term for when the audience is shown something happening on screen that the actors themselves don't see happening around them?

R8 Dramatic irony.

R6- I wholeheartedly agree. Truly, truly terrifying and the best thriller since The Exorcist.

Goddamn I wish Toni would get an Oscar nomination for this.

P. U. Willy!

That was the worst piece of crap from the entire summer, which is really saying something. This was the Summer that blasted out some serious deukies, m’kay?

God, that was terrible. I cant see how this had such positive reviews and, though she is good as always, that Toni Collette could be considered for an Oscar for this dreck.

Fot those of you who liked it, why did you think it s any good? There is a crescendo of horror without any sense , reason or character development. Horrible things keep happening for no discerning reason. And it is neither scary nor humorous (unpardonable in a horror movie).

Also, it uses motifs that are irrelevant, such as the miniatures.

R13 You clearly didn't understand the movie if you think things were happening for no discerning reason. Look for a youtube synopsis.

R15, i got the demon thing but found there was a lot of gratuitous stuff. It is not a coherent (nor simple) movie. And It is beyond pretentious.

[quote] Horrible things keep happening for no discerning reason.

You just weren't paying enough attention to the story if you think that. Things WERE happening for a reason: the cultists, led by Margo Martindale, were working to resurrect Paimon as a boy, which is what he wanted to be, rather than as a girl.

[quote] Also, it uses motifs that are irrelevant, such as the miniatures.

Again, you weren't paying enough attention if you think they were irrelevant.

Ok, r17, explain the miniatures

The actress who played Charlir was hired because she came with a detachable head.

The dioramas are a window into Annie's mind, provide backstory, and also show you what's happening in the present as well as foreshadow calamity when she destroys them. While Annie controls her little universe, forces outside are controlling hers. The opening shot gives us a clue that they're just players in a cosmic play.

Also the crescendo of horror-- as you gracefully put it-- at the end in the treehouse is the most gruesome diorama of all. It's her final work-- her one purpose throughout the film.

Goddamn it, I hate miniature dollhouses!

Her decapitated body surrealistically floats to the treehouse because she herself is rendered a living doll/object used to stage the final scene. If I remember, it zooms out like a theater set in the final scene, bringing the whole thing full circle. Someone more intelligent could probably explain the whole micro/macrocosm thing better but that's what I really liked about the movie. I didn't see it as pretentious at all. Mother! was hella pretentious.

The miniatures meant that the actual family were being controlled and manipulated from a distance by powers much greater than theirs, just as Toni Collette manipulated the family scene miniatures.

Thanks, it does make more sense now, I just saw the miniatures as a rather crude metaphor.

I still think the movie lacks simplicity and that if the director has to provide so much information/backstory outside the film, it fails. For nstance, in Rosemary s Baby there is no need for explanations, even if there are some things happening that you don’t see/get.

I also think that the child was so creepy as to be miscast. When she dies it comes as a shock but not a truly horrible one. From the start you don’t feel this is a normal family in any way, so it is impossible to identify with the characters.

But it is still more interesting than I initially thought upon viewing it.

OP obviously didn't watch this movie

Dear OP, the young girl gets violently beheaded earlier on in the film.

I read a plot spoiler before I saw it, because I’m an impatient millennial and I think I ruined my experience. I love horror movies and was too excited by all the reviews. I really think you need to go in fresh to get the Shyamalanian revelation of what is really happening. Still, I can’t wait to see it on HBO to try again.

I was watching it while I posted this, r26...

SPOILER ALERT:::

As Aster sees it, Hereditary is "a story about a long-lived possession ritual told from the perspective of the sacrificial lamb."

I STILL don't understand how the husband spontaneously burst into flames when she threw the sketch pad in the fireplace.

I’m also mad they passed out on paimon gouging out his eyes in the end. Made all that buildup about the eyes in the drawings pointless.

How about we finish the toy AFTER the quiz you little bitch!

The first half was awesome - it had a really unique and unsettling atmosphere. The way the car crash scene and the aftermath were executed was fucking brilliant. Unfortunately the second half, when the film suddenly went from a horror-ish drama to a full blown horror film, was terrible. It pretty much became a stupid run-of-the-mill horror film, with a storyline almost identical to the one in Paranormal Activity franchise.

R31 It was Paimon. When she first tries to burn it her sleeve catches on fire as a warning. She tries to sacrifice herself totally but it just takes the husband.

I think I read somewhere the eyes were supposed to be gouged out in the original cut.

It was okay as a movie. Why critics were doing somersaults is beyond me

The eyes x'ed out in the photographs meant that the son character was to die and have his soul replaced, not that he would literally lose his eyes.

The plot was not really that more complex than Rosemary's Baby. In both movies, there's a lot of backstory you're getting in bits and hints as the movie goes on, and then at the end of the movie the whole plot comes together and you figure out what you were seeing all along.

But if you're posting on datalounge while you're watching "Hereditary," you're not going to catch the details that will allow the whole thing to make sense at the end. It does demand attentive viewing, and it requires you to think.

Puh-lease!

Touché, r37, you are right. Only the movie didn’t grab me and I was bored.

I completely disagree about Rosemary’s Baby. The story is very simple in its internal logic. But also it is very effective in that it makes you identify with the main character. It delivers an emotional impact that, in my view, is completely absent from “Hereditary “.

This movie is about a deranged, screaming, self-absorbed woman. Her beagled eye lapdog of a husband was totally emasculated by her. He deserved to get burned. The kids didn’t deserved this hell. At least I got a blow job after dinner. Otherwise, it was a wasted evening.

At least she has a vagina an asshole and a mouth and two hands.

Why does that contribute to a movie?

[quote] It delivers an emotional impact that, in my view, is completely absent from “Hereditary “.

You admitted you were not paying attention to it while you were watching it.

Your aesthetic opinion of it consequently has no validity in anyone's eyes.

I did admit that I posted here after 30 minutes in the movie. And I said that I was bored by it. This wouldn’t happen if I were in any way invested in the thing. One of my criticisms is that the movie does not have engaging characters,which are especially important in a horror movie. There are exceptions, of course.

I didn’t understand the end of the movie, and the entire movie was not scary.

R5, Shapiro supposedly has cleidocranial dysplasia, like the kid from Stranger Things.

Stop trying to make this shit movie happen.