New Lens Dunham profile in NY Mag! Sound the alarm!

Could someone please open the window, and push her out?

I generally think DL is way too harsh on her, but good God that is an ugly photo.

She has fibromyalgia. The jokes write themselves.

I’m on my way Lens.

Gurl is pooped after a session of non-ironic Hula Hooping.

why this profile? was this necessary? can we spend a semester without some long, boring, essay on how brilliant and weird this person is?

That gurl has a lot of navel to gaze.

Is capable of producing anything that isn't about herself, or stars herself?

She always looks like she needs a bath

There are horrifying pictures of her body illustrating the story.

Can you imagine the scent of that poor vagina?

She should have opted for elective euthanasia rather than the hysterectomy.

She's so exhausting.

Glad she can no longer breed.

Hoping we can lock her and Jill Soloway into a room until they bore and/or bug each other to death, turn each other into a big pile of goo, both pairs of their faux grandma reading glasses floating on top.

She's #5 trending on Twitter now.

Has she identified as trans yet?

She's ditched Brooklyn for West Village.

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Lens is now #3 on Twitter thanks to posts like this

Is her sister not a lesbian anymore?

I have pebbles in my cunt.

I find this girl so fucking repulsive...>gag<

R18 Why does her body... look like that?

Where's a rooftop sniper when you need one?

“The doctor said he’d never seen a uterus as misshapen as mine,” she said proudly. Is she actually Trump’s secret daughter? It would explain a lot about here.

"Lena Dunham comes to terms with herself" -- truly gripping!

As others have noted, she sounds exhausting, clueless & oh so tone deaf; I think the break up of relationship with not just her boyfriend but her long time writing partner speaks volumes about just how difficult, needy and high maintenance she is. Plus, whether you liked Girls or not, she did a lot for the careers of Adam Driver & Allison Williams. You'd think there'd be quotes from them about her brilliance and talent to balance out the clearly negative stuff - and yet, not a word.

R3 Is it possible to be too harsh on someone who lied about being raped and who subjected an innocent man to public scrutiny, humiliation and death threats? Or on a woman who gave a very creepy account of things she would do with her toddler sister? Or on a woman who lied about the circumstances of having to bring a shelter dog back to the shelter? Or on a woman who tried to further her career and her image off of the suffering of sexual assault survivors only to sneer and brush off rape accusations because the person being accused was a personal friend of hers?

If anything DL is too nice to her.

I don't know who it is that keeps this one on the radar and who keeps shoving her down the public's throat but it ain't me.

Lena Dunham is not feminist crusader, she is not an artist she is simply a narcissist of the highest order.

Not that she has come to terms with herself maybe she can take her new-found inner peace and all the money people have thrown at her and go away.

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Wasn't it fake on GIRLS that she had that cute Howdy Doody boyfriend then basically dumps him!

She's a stomach-churning embodiment of everything despicable and disastrous about her generation. A walking,, wobblng, whining cliche of millennial angst, pretensions, and that ineffable stench of equal parts self-loathng and self-satisfaction.

I still feel so bad for Riz Ahmed. Poor Riz, having to touch that.

Christ, no mention of Trump yet? You bitches are slipping.

Aaannddd my 500th Lens thread ignored.

Bye-ee!

R34 meet R25

I trust that her remaining ovary is stable at the moment and that her fibro attacks have been survivable. I pray she never goes into the woods because I am sure there are an army of ticks waiting to pounce and infect her with chronic lyme disease.

From Lens's inexplicable notoriety to the sinking of the Bismarck to the Rape of Nanking, everything can apparently be linked to Trump.

Nobody likes the guy, but fuck, what low-hanging fruit and an utterly unimaginative target of disdain. There is no critical thinking anymore. Keep sucking up what your mainstream media feed you, and refer to any dissenters as "Boris." Some of you are clever with quips, but this place is a fucking swamp of poisonous, hate-filled, hypocritical thought devoid of intellectual discourse and cheerful acceptance of differing opinions. Fraught with utterly abusive epithets towards people with an opposite point of view and yet pointing the finger elsewhere, not at all capable of self-examination. All the while touting itself as a forum for freedom of expression.

Kind of like the USA, actually. God bless.

R38... and yet you are still here.

Anyone else kind of disappointed Lens did not get diagnosed with fibro early enough in "Girls" run to put out her own version of DL's fave "Sick and Tired" episode of Golden Girls?

The few comments under the article are 100% brutal. Lens is OVAH!

Having fibro is so hip right now.

Funny thing is, they say in the article that she has a "digital strategist".

Well, he’s obviously doing a great job.

[quote]There was video of a hairless black puppy she was thinking of adopting and naming Rosa. “I’m worried people will get mad bc of Rosa Parks bc I have to consider those things,” she wrote.

She's passively-aggressively giving the middle finger to all the woke people who've come after her.

Pity the pups adopted by her. They end up in 5-10 IG posts and then back to the shelter because they aren't well socialised, meaning they don't like her.

Can't she go off to Mumbai and pretend to "look for herself" while pretending to care about the poor, sick locals?

It would all suit Lens so we'll. She could write a monthly Twitter column and let everyone know she's still there.

That stunt of accusing someone of making up a rape allegation is truly vile, R28. These media outlets should be holding her to account for that, not building up her ego.

Best line:

[quote] “I’m like Virginia Woolf writing letters only with emojis, and nobody cares,” she texted.

[quote]Some of you are clever with quips, but this place is a fucking swamp of poisonous, hate-filled, hypocritical thought devoid of intellectual discourse and cheerful acceptance of differing opinions. Fraught with utterly abusive epithets towards people with an opposite point of view and yet pointing the finger elsewhere, not at all capable of self-examination. All the while touting itself as a forum for freedom of expression.

Mary!

R38, dear, you are perfectly free to post whatever you wish. You are also free to read or not read the responses you get from people with exactly the same freedom. Free speech, as they often say, is not consequence free speech nor is it reply free speech. No one has curtailed your speech in any way and you will not curb ours.

I'm like Virginia Woolf...except I'm nothing like Virginia Woolf.

As insufferable as she is, the description of her family explains a lot about her. My mother would've told me to stop feeling sorry for myself, put down my phone and stop being such a bitch to everyone. Point being, she seems to need someone in her life to tell her to get over herself and move on, but her NYC uber-liberal parents don't seem like the tough love type. They seem to confirm her sense of victim-hood.

R49, VERY original reply to something you have no intelligent rebuttal towards.

R50, first of all, don't call me "dear." And your use of condescending language in order to prove absolutely nothing in the form of an intelligent answer proves to me that this place is a cesspit of hate and hypocrisy. Freedom of speech, you say. Can I call you a screaming, flaming-queen faguette? If not, why not?

[quote] Some of you are clever with quips, but this place is a fucking swamp of poisonous, hate-filled, hypocritical thought devoid of intellectual discourse and cheerful acceptance of differing opinions. Fraught with utterly abusive epithets towards people with an opposite point of view and yet pointing the finger elsewhere, not at all capable of self-examination. All the while touting itself as a forum for freedom of expression.

#1) Oh, boo hoo hooey hoo!

#2) When did Datalounge ever tout itself as a forum for freedom of expression?

Oh, that's right: you FANTASIZED that.

South Park forever summed her up when they had one of the characters tell Butters, "Lena Dunham just put a picture of her asshole on Twitter and wants only the positive comments."

[quote] [R50], first of all, don't call me "dear."

Don't let it bother you, hon.

R53 - wot a KUNT!

Of course, r53, dear, you may call me whatever silly names you wish and as we can all see, you have done so. The sky has not fallen, you have not been banned, your post stands. And? In what way, precisely, is your freedom of speech being taken away from you here? I don't see that happening, no one sees it.

As for the Datalounge being a cesspool of evildoers or whatever you were ranting about, so what? Go to some other site then, there are millions of them just waiting for you. Go where your freedom of speech will be curtailed along with everyone else's. That's clearly what you're looking for and it's out there.

quote[...cheerful acceptance of differing opinions. Fraught with utterly abusive epithets towards people with an opposite point of view...]

No, not quite, Dear. The only ones told to go fuck themselves are anyone pushing this "our desire to subjugate you is only a difference of opinion" and the douchebags who support those douchebags.

Which one are you? Are you that ugly Brit with the cracked, crooked and blackened teeth? Then an extra FUCK YOU.

Regardless, kindly die in a grease fire.

i think the nutter complaining about Americans is the anti-Mary Poppins freak.

Opting for the most invasive and extreme surgical treatment (ala angelina jolie) is a form of self-mutilation. She seems more disturbed than ever. Would love to know what really happened between her and Jenni Konner.

Pardon me if I fail to understand this "performance artist" (I did read the entirety of the article), but doesn't the implicit pact between artist and audience imply something reciprocal? As in, the artist entertains, thrills, delights, humors, stimulates or moves the audience and in exchange is rewarded with admiration, respect and financial reward. This repulsive, self-involved cow only takes - she's a soulless monster. A black hole of narcissism and exhibitionism

How she came to fame says a lot. She didn't create a hit movie. She didn't do stand-up. She didn't take Broadway by storm. She didn't work her way up in supporting roles. She was simply the beneficiary of her parents' rich friends at HBO. That's it. That's why the public hates her. They didn't choose her - she was foisted upon them and it shows.

Her fame is totally out of proportion with her achievements and so she's a legitimate hate-magnet for those who loathe the useless New York "cultural elite" who've made a travesty out of the arts. I agree with a poster upthread that she's a living symbol of her disgraceful generation of naval-gazers.

Think of what Dorothy Parker might have said of her.

It's also obvious that she's druggie.

So it's a dosage problem? Take more!

R47 The fact that Dunhamn is beyond privileged and comes from a well-connected family is very, very obvious. Anyone else would have been over with a long, long time ago. Or maybe they wouldn't have stood a chance in the first place.

Too funny R55!

The Onion also summed her up very well.

"Next Episode of 'Girls' to Feature Dunham Sh*tting Herself During a Gyno Exam While Eating a Burrito"

Say what you will, but she is against Trump.

What went down with Konner?

Did Antanoff cheat with Lorde?

And Grace is Grayson- or something. A they/them person.

Lens should be like Virginia Woolf in one only respect: sinking to the bottom of a river.

At least David Remnick tells her "no."

[quote] —Load Up the Stones, Lens!

Unfortunately, I've already shoved them up my sister's vagina!

And now I am going to just as creepily take them out...hope she doesn't resist.

"Say what you will, but she is against Trump."

So what? She's still a repulsive beast.

[quote]Say what you will, but she is against Trump.

I think I'd have more respect for her if she'd been against Hillary; at least it would be original (for someone in her circle) and brave.

What's "brave" about being against the only intelligent, viable candidate for POTUS in the election?

R77, Jill?

r77, I just meant that of course she would be against Trump, based on who she is and the people she's surrounded by. I guess I really just wanted to say she doesn't deserve "credit" for being against him.

She's fucking NUTS.

She did not need a hysterectomy and certainly any sane 31-year-old would at least freeze her eggs beforehand.

The article made it sound like her doctors were possibly starstruck, Steve Jobs-skipping-cancer-surgery style.

The girl is an unhinged drugged out attention whore.

Not preserving her fertility was an intensely nutty move.

r80 - "Not preserving her fertility was an intensely nutty move."

Wasn't that her real gift to the world?

R80 I doubt she needed the surgery. This is reminiscent of Yolanda from RHoBH, when she had her implants removed and the doctor said it’s was the worst case of “insert bull shit disease” they’d ever seen.

As we’re learning in the current Chris Watts thread, a doctor will gladly tell you what you want to hear for $$, and I’m sure that would also extend to surgery. Doctors love to operate

Got it, r79, thanks.

R82, I've always thought Angelina Jolie belonged in that group of nutters.

When did her sister decide she was trans?

What's wrong with this generation? Nobody is just plain old gay anymore.

Hey chill, r85, we're regular gay people right here and there are lots of us. There are also plenty of trans, lesbian and bi people and that's just fine. Stop whining.

Most people would say to their kids, "keep me out of your public experiences." Her mom's all "ohhh Lenas creating art." The word is boundaries and Lenas family does not have them.

No wonder she shares her shit on social media, and she's defensive when people tell her to stfu.

Defiantly and purposely ugly. she could: lose weight/tone up get hair extensions: get a full set of veneers lip implants/ injections and breast implantation full face of makeup,

she won't do it. I get why she won't do it, but its a shtick that wears on people's nerves in a society that clearly indemnifies a young woman's value on her appearance, more so now. She would not get half the grief she gets if she looked attractive in any way, that's her point,

R87 Dunham's wealthy and connected parents are the reason we even know Lens' name.

R88 Yes, that is her point. I do not understand her message of empowerment, I really don't.

R88 Even if she did all that, she wouldn't be beautiful, just average. She's one of those women who know that they'll never be pretty, so they make themselves as unattractive as possible to show that they "don't care." Of course, they do. Or else they wouldn't try so hard.

Poor bone structure.

R89 maybe they live through her success? Weird dynamics

She must have an excellent publicist who manages to keep her in the media spotlight even when she is doing nothing of interest.

She is a terrible writer, but I would love to read her heartfelt, searching account of why she chose to leave Brooklyn for the Village. O pioneer.

Poor bone structure, poor posture, poor taste. I know that fat, ugly girls have a hard time, especially with straight men. Lens makes that harder than it has to be because she makes herself as ugly as possible. She's never going to be attractive but she could do a lot better than this mess.

R94, she took her covered wagon and drove it across the bridge, searching for the promised Land....

I have been watching Joan Crawford in THE DAMNED DON'T CRY! Now, THAT's a woman! Smart, tough as nails, hard-working and no time for tears.

Lens is a retard.

Leave her to the lions.

I guess people will still hire her for writing gigs etc. She’ll hang on with cockroach tenacity like Trisha Paytas.

Anyone know why she and her writing partner went their separate ways?

So many epithets piled on the girl... Has anyone considered that she's plain old STUPID? Methinks that covers all her actions and words.

She claims her ex-boyfriend Jack and her are still good friends, but he won't come over because he hates her cats. Sure he hates her cats, because it couldn't possibly be her.

R99 All I have heard is the usual PR bullshit:

[quote]"We have had one of the most significant relationships together in our adult lives and we respect each other’s choices. While our interests are pulling us in different directions right now, we are excited about our current work and are firmly committed to the projects we have together. HBO has been our home for quite some time and we look forward to continuing there as we both move forward," Dunham and Konner said Tuesday in a joint statement to The Hollywood Reporter.

R99 I wonder if her writing partner got tired of doing all the work and getting little of the credit.

Didn't they both work on that awful show "Camping"? I suspect it's along the lines of Jenni feeling she was getting dragged down by an increasingly out of touch Lens. That shitty show was the last straw, it got creamed in ratings, a complete embarrassment.

Girls was good. She seems like a narcissist and she will have an unhappy life but she certainly won't blame herself.

This article was made for the DL. I can’t believe no one has mentioned her “naps,” thatvtge writer says that she lives in pajamas these days, and seems to be being babied by her parents at their house. “Mama, can I have more food?”

And the photos all show her wrapped in blankets and looking glum like a invalid!

[quote] “Mama, can I have more food?”

Well she's not in a position to say: 'Boyfriend, can I have more food?' or, 'Husband, can I have more food?'.

[quote]Now, THAT's a woman! Smart, tough as nails, hard-working and no time for tears.

Dear Miss Crawford. I shall rewatch Johnny Guitar on Netflix this week and urge all dataloungers to do the same, then perhaps the penny will drop and they will acquire the rights to Humoresque!

I have no interest in her but I've noticed people enjoy using her as a punching bag to project their own issues onto her, especially POC, who seem to spend all their time bitching about white people now and enjoying the sense of being victims. It isn't a healthy climate.

A woman can be born homely, but with a lot of verve and wit become chic, interesting, etc. Like Ingrid Superstar.

How many maladies does this woman have? Fibromyalgia, perimenopause, Ehlers-Danlos, she's a mug cradler extraordinaire.

WTF are you yammering about R109? Are you related to Lens?

In fairness, R111, if someone had Ehlers-Danlos they could cradle as many mugs as they wanted as far as I'm concerned. It's a horrible illness.

r112, did r109 lie though?

Lena's parents, Carroll Dunham and Laurie Simmons, are two of the most insufferably smug and pretentious cunts who have ever lived.

R109=R114

R115 first couple I've ever seen where the wife has a bigger/longer head than the gayfaced husband.

Seriously, her father's appearance just screams old gallery queen, yet all he does are gross paintings of women's assholes and vulvas.

Urrggh what an unsightly MESS. Just grotesque. If only Quasimodo were real, he'd be her perfect match and she could be spirited away into obscurity.

Poor, poor, Lens Never any attachment as a babe or child from her elite, cold, self-absorbed parents, and now her own Self- indulgent Narcissism is the only way she can get any of the attention she feels she deserves.

^^^^^ Acting out is her way of getting attention and probably has been since she was a toddler. She can't imagine living any other way so naturally she has to come up with an endless stream of "look at me" ailments and body exhibitions. She uses her unattractiveness as just another means of getting attention because she knows if she tried to look half-way decent everyone would ignore her since there'd be nothing to talk about.

I skimmed the article because a person can only handle so much Lens in the morning, but this jumped out at me:

"She began her PTSD treatment while Camping was in production, leaving Konner to take care of the show."

Placing the blame for Camping at Konner's feet.

WTF in this over-privileged cunt's life could cause PTSD?

You can see in those hospital photos how happy she is to be there and getting such forced attention, what a sick and sad creature.

[quote]Lena's

Beg pardon - who?

[Quote] She’ll hang on with cockroach tenacity like Trisha Paytas.

Lol probably, but i'd argue Trisha is even more of a mess than Lens.

she basically outed her dad on Girls. I mean, the man is so obviously gay. But he doesn't look bad, maybe he was hot when young. Anyway, my fave Lens fact is this one, i read a while ago. Young , still unknown Lena went to see a Lisa Lampanelli stand up show with her mom. At the end, Lens' mom went to Lisa and told her: "We loved it, my daughter wishes some day to be just like you". And Lampanelli replied "what? a cunt?". She was prophetic, wasnt' she?

the part of the NY article about her living with her parents were very sad: it really came across as a story about a mentally challenged adult living with two exhausted, long suffering old parents.

Honestly, if she started doing things like lose weight, exercise, wear stylish clothes and makeup, have cosmetic procedures, must of you would shriek in horror and attack her. ‘How DARE she pretend that she isn’t a beast?’

[R122] Exactly! She has PTSD? Really? Just like GaGa. Claiming this designation is an insult to war veterans and people who've endured trauma in war zones. It's outrageous. More like "dilettante's distress."

[quote]it really came across as a story about a mentally challenged adult living with two exhausted, long suffering old parents.

It's a veiled act of hostility towards the parents. How dare they enjoy their senior years alone, as they please? Their focus should be HER. THEY created her, and she is NOT HAPPY - that's their fault, and they must remedy it, or suffer along with her!

Her mother's dress in the pic at R115 is so beautiful; Lens' fashion sense must be another act of hostility towards the parents.

[quote]Dunham's wealthy and connected parents are the reason we even know Lens' name.

Yet no one is able to tell us exactly how "connected" her parents are? What is their actual connection to showbiz? 'Who' do they know? "Who' do we blame for Lens?

A friend has worked in the NYC art scene over 30 years, Lens parents are artists. Her closet case father Carroll Dunham is a painter (he usually paints grotesque nudes of naked women, focusing on their vulvas and assholes), her mom Laurie Simmons takes photos of dollhouse furniture, small dolls and also did a series on the sex doll, The Real Doll. Somehow these people make a living selling this 'art'.

Please do tell, how her parents are in any way connected to Hollywood? This is constantly repeated, yet with zero proof.

Here's her dad's art, sure there might be some Hollywood showbiz freak who dares to put this crap on their living room wall, but neither of her parents are on the level of very well known artists. I'd buy a Warhol lithograph before any of this garbage,

Here's something from Carroll Dunham's new collection of paintings, apparently he's started to paint men. Quelle surprise!

She began her PTSD treatment while Camping was in production, leaving Konner to take care of the show."

Placing the blame for Camping at Konner's feet.

I was thinking that line was more a justification as to why Conner finally had enough of Lens, rather than blaming her. The plot of Camping (or what there is of it) would've stunk up production whether Lens was there or not. It seems just seems like that episode was the last straw for Conner, further illustrating how Lens just wears people out.

You will have to do your research R132.

Every "actress" cast on 'Girls' were all the daughters of celebrities and other big wigs. Dunham can't be the only one left off of that list.

The profile is really good at throwing shade on her in away that she is too self-involved to fully notice. The parents look like a parody of the celeb shot in front of logos. The show benefited from a lot of connections and, indeed, after awhile, some of those connections like Judd Apatow were writing most of the episodes. She's someone whose indie film got some notice but otherwise couldn't survive on her own.

I normally don't talk in terms like this, but something about her father gives me extremely negative vibes. His face, his stance, and especially the style of his "artwork." Does anyone know the guy? Anything to share? Seriously, he feels like bad news. There's pretentiousness and posturing, but then there's downright sinister.

I am just shy of suggesting that he's a ritual occult leader or something, and Lena has seen some shit. But since it's DL, I won't.

I don't remember clearly but wasn't the story that her parents were friends of Judd Apatow's and that was how Lens was connected? If it wasn't Apatow it was someone like him.

Her mother does doll furniture art? Wasn't that how Lens started out? She did a short film with doll furniture and must have ripped off her own mother. Nice.

She's not living in an apartment with her own nursing/home care help because why? And how did she acquire PTSD? What was the nature of the horrendous trauma?

R137 From OP's linked article:

[quote]She says the PTSD was a result of the trauma of sexual assault and “medical trauma.” Gynecological appointments were particularly triggering.

[quote]You will have to do your research [R132]. Every "actress" cast on 'Girls' were all the daughters of celebrities and other big wigs. Dunham can't be the only one left off of that list.

THX for your non-answer! So helpful!

Doll, I don't need to do any research. I am quite aware that the actresses on "GIRLS" all have showbiz connections.

Brit Jemima Kirke was likely hired due to being a longtime close friend of Lens, they attended St. Ann's together. Jemima was in Lens first film, "Tiny Furniture". Jemima is the daughter of British rock drummer Simon Kirke, Simon was in Free and Bad Company. Jemima never studied to become an actress, she's a fine arts painter.

Zosia Mamet is the daughter of playwright David Mamet and actress Lindsey Crouse. Allison Williams is the daughter newsman Brian Williams.

If the story is true, that Lens parents are friendly with Judd Apatow, then that would be the showbiz connection. Somehow I do not think this is true, that two very odd downtown NYC artists are close friends with Judd, I don't think so.

Hopefully this answers questions about her being "connected" - which she was indeed. Are people really THAT naive about the Hollywood and Manhattan scenes not being connected?

There might be showbiz people who have bought Dunham & Simonns' "art".

[quote]Her mother does doll furniture art? Wasn't that how Lens started out? She did a short film with doll furniture and must have ripped off her own mother. Nice.

Yes, Lens mom photographs dolls and tiny dollhouse furniture.

Lens mother Laurie is a fine arts photographer. Laurie occasionally does commercial work, she's worked most recently for NEW YORK magazine. Perhaps that's why the magazine is so enamored of Lens, they want her mom to keep working for them!

Lens first film "Tiny Furniture" starred her best friend Jemima Kirke and her real mom and sister played Lens character's mom and sister in the film. The film was mostly shot in Lens parents former Tribeca loft which they sold last year for 6 million. The own a home in Connecticut and last I heard, they bought a co-op in Brooklyn.

[quote]The profile is really good at throwing shade on her in away that she is too self-involved to fully notice.

I think she notices it but she rejects the premise of it -- she takes pride in the things that "normal" people look askance at.

It's similar to when a Girls episode would depict her character as doing something shallow, selfish, inane and/or idiotic ... and Lena would take to Twitter to proclaim how brave, honest, intelligent and/or selfless it was.

[quote]Hopefully this answers questions about her being "connected" - which she was indeed. Are people really THAT naive about the Hollywood and Manhattan scenes not being connected?

Yet, none of this explains why so many bought the Lens Kool-Aid? Just because a person has showbiz 'connections', there is never a guarantee that the public is going to buy into whatever garbage someone is selling. Not that difficult to comprehend. Something struck a chord, she became famous.

Obviously, Lens has garnered an audience for her whiny millennial navel gazing bullshit, otherwise she wouldn't have a career.

It doesn't matter how self-absorbed her writing is, how grating her shows are, she clearly has a demographic which is totally buying into her image and all her bullshit. Young women actually think Lens is "brave" and other such nonsense. Someone should teach these airheads what a being a truly brave person is really about. Lens sure isn't the epitome of 'brave'.

If she were truly aware she wouldn't have allowed all the access.

Depressing.

She gets attention for the same reason Trump does, saying stupid things that people can't help gawking and pointing at. We can't help clicking on a Lens article to be disgusted with her, so the media keeps putting her front and center. Same with the Kardashians, there is a big audience for hatred of these narcissistic celebs.

I think Dunham simply enjoys irritating people. She knows she gets on people's nerves and she gets off on it. Nothing more.

I liked the line where her ex told her she’s a provacatueur but just doesn’t know it. That’s a super nice way of him saying she just starts shit for attention and has no self awareness

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She needs to tour in Peter Pan. She could play the pirate ship.

If you’re “tender to the touch”, you would get big tattoos???

R144, how much of the public ever actually bought into her? How much of a fanbase does she have that developed organically, as opposed to being the result of outsized media hype about her?

The ratings for Girls was always poor. It was renewed anyway. HBO then came out and said it was never about ratings, but about "buzz:"

'“Every other day, The New York Times was figuring out a way to get Girls into an article—even if it was a sports story, they'd shove a Girls reference in it to appear to be hip,” director Richard Shepard told The Hollywood Reporter.'

Publications like the NYT we shoving in those references because of Lena's connections, not because readers were looking for them.

Lenny Letter failed. Camping is a flop. Her media profile has always been far too large compared to her actual fanbase.

[quote]Publications like the NYT we shoving in those references because of Lena's connections, not because readers were looking for them.

ROFL, Lens's Soho parents are the new Illuminati.

"An incomplete list of things Dunham has been asked to apologize for: the nondiverse casting on Girls; casting Donald Glover as a black Republican boyfriend the season after she got in trouble for having an all-white cast; saying in an interview, “No one would be calling me a racist if they knew how badly I wanted to fuck Drake”; declaring herself “thin for, like, Detroit”; writing a New Yorker essay called “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? A Quiz”; constantly being naked; tweeting a photo of herself wearing a scarf around her head like a hijab; accusing a Spanish magazine of airbrushing her photos (it did not); comparing Bill Cosby to the Holocaust; giving Horvath a brown baby at the end of Girls (and casting a baby that was Puerto Rican and Haitian, not half-Pakistani, as the script dictated); comparing the reading of negative Jezebel coverage to getting beaten in the face by an abusive husband; accusing NFL player Odell Beckham Jr. of not wanting to sleep with her; saying she disliked India because of the visible poverty; apologizing but never learning."

Lena is not unaware. If she were just unaware, she'd be embarrassed every time she got slammed. She's a privileged asshole who courts attention via her fuckups but doesn't learn from the because she doesn't need to. She never actually suffers any serious repercussions from them.

R153, really? An absolute nobody got herself an HBO show based on her connections, but you don't think the NYT, the fucking capitol of insiders, would push her for the very same reason?

[quote] get a full set of veneers lip implants/ injections and breast implantation

Only completely insane and shallow people who live in LA and Miami (and Venezuela!) think those are reasonable requests to make of other people, even of celebrities.

No one should have to resort to surgery to be a celebrity. That's just nuts.

Why did NY Mag do a feature on her at this particular moment? For promoting Camping?

Did she get to, at least, eat Alison Williams ass?

[quote]In fairness, [R111], if someone had Ehlers-Danlos they could cradle as many mugs as they wanted as far as I'm concerned. It's a horrible illness.

You must be wrong because the way Lens describes it, it makes her super flexible so she is incredible at having sex.

I read an article not long ago by someone who had Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and they said were flexible and really good at yoga, and only later realized it was a symptom. For some reason, what Lens said really felt like it was taken from that other article. like she had read it too, and thought that was a great thing to say, and appropriated it for herself.

Her fat ass was really flexible in the last season of GIRLS. I remember one of her many sex scenes with Riz Ahmed (that poor man!) where she lifted her right leg all the way up to her chest and practically over Riz's shoulder. That scene was poorly lit and not very explicit, but it sure was funny and extremely awkward.

Wish I could find a still, this was all I could find from that scene. Hope Riz was paid well.

to be fair, her first book was a bestseller, so she indeed has an audience

[quote]Someone should teach these airheads what a being a truly brave person is really about. Lens sure isn't the epitome of 'brave'.

Our culture no longer respects true bravery; they want a diluted version of it so they can think they themselves are brave as well, or can aspire to it without much effort.

[quote]to be fair, her first book was a bestseller, so she indeed has an audience

Lots of people buy into hype, it doesn't mean Lens has anything new to say. She's a narcissist from a world of privilege. I don't care to read anything by such a person.

Just look at a random list of 'celebrities' in today's culture, the Kardashians for example. Who in their right mind finds such moronic self-absorbed people interesting?

Lens father gives me the creeps. There's something weird about her family dynamic, something which is being kept on the down low. Her father is obviously gay, yet remains with the mother. Her sister came out, then started to dress like a man, she even chopped off her long hair. The sister looked cute in "Tiny Furniture". Seems her entire family is fucked up.

When rich people live that way, they are considered 'eccentric', when a poor family does the same, Social Services are called.

Carroll Dunham spent years drawing red, broken pussies only for Lens to grow up with a broken, bloody pussy. It's like she had to become his painting to get his attention.

Her uterus turned into a Carroll Dunham painting.

Her father totally fucked her, right?

Has to be part of the reason she's so fucked up.

[quote]She’s also working with friends, like Nicole Richie, to help them develop their own writing.

HAHAHAHAHAAAAA

Why did she break up with Jenni Konner?

She got good reviews for her indie thing because of her parents connections and was given the HBO show based on that. I don't believe the constant, annoying Girls references in magazines and newspapers were engineered by her parents. Writers throw of-the-moment pop culture references into their work to seem cooler, younger, etc. For a while Girls was their favorite, then it wasn't.

I've never seen an episode of her dreck shows, read her whining writing or watched her on a talk show. I figure that if she's going to go out of her way to be repellent and gross then she is seeking the absence of my attention.

I know this is me projecting but I'm going to try and articulate the visceral repulsion I feel when I look at her. She always looks dirty and greasy - her hair looks like it needs washing and her makeup looks sloppy and inky. She looks like she smells, like she has overactive glands, like she's constantly secreting liquids you wouldn't want to come in contact with. She looks like she doesn't brush and floss properly, that her breath smells, that destructive cultures are growing in her mouth and her gums are infected and bleeding. She looks like there are hairs growing wildly in her armpits and her legs are Cro-Magnon. She looks like her feet stink of athlete's foot and her toenails are jagged and dirty. She looks like she has dirt under her fingernails. She looks like she's sloppy, that her personal space is a mess and that she lets fungus grow on the dishes in her sink. She has the skin of a corpse and the eyes of a zombie.

There was never anything innocent and youthful about her - even as a young person she seemed dipped in the corruption of the family and culture she was raised in. She seems to exist to corrupt, to shit on anything sacred - to promote hate and blasphemy. She seems lazy and fat and addicted to junk food. She seems angry and mean and selfish and addicted to drugs. She seems to exist to offend, to degrade, to torture. She seems to exist to make women seem revolting, to make men seem stupid, to make love seem trite.

Okay - I'll stop now.

Her show being on HBO and presenting a new generation of young women made for a good framing as the anti-SATC. Unfortunately, it had all the annoying stuff about SATC (white privileged women who are fairly oblivious about it) with none of the good stuff--no wit.

i know a top showrunner. he works non stop. the famous person he is partnered with also works non stop. does she strike you as a workaholic? nope. i have always been curious as to whether there is a lot of uncredited help on girls. or perhaps jenni konner was shouldering the load and got fed up. apatow shows have a sameness to them that makes me wonder if she was the millennial brand while behind the scenes she was getting a lot of help. separately - oxycodone a MONTH after surgery??? ummmmm

(to the tune of Jingle Bells)

cunt cunt cunt

cunt cunt cunt

cunt cunt cunt, cunt cunt!

Off with this usurper's greasy head!

Dunham is an über cunt but Girls was a good watch for a couple seasons. I thoroughly enjoyed it and thought it was well done and quite outrageous for all the unlikable characters. Really despicable. If it hadn't been good, 3 of the actors wouldn't have semi-careers now and it wouldn't have entered the zeitgeist as strongly as it did.

[quote] If it hadn't been good, 3 of the actors wouldn't have semi-careers now and it wouldn't have entered the zeitgeist as strongly as it did.

GIRLS could have simply been one of those shows where the acting transcended the terrible scripts. For me, Adam, Alex and Jemima were the standout performers. Alex's character, the cafe manager, was the only sympathetic character and he was also the oldest in their little group.

The biggest mistake Lens made was casting herself in the lead, she surely knew that would bring her more criticism, especially as so many thought she was basically playing herself.

R171! She DOES smell, it’s a moldy, dank scent coupled with some sort of citrus fragrance, def athlete’s foot in there too. Her poor toilet.

R125 Maybe but they both run on an inexhaustible supply of self absorption.

Lena has a drug problem? Whaaaat?

Coke? Pills? I wanna know more.

R111 I'll up you Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and PCOS.

[quote]Lena has a drug problem? Whaaaat? Coke? Pills? I wanna know more.

Whatever drugs they are, they sure don't seem to be the type which cause someone to lose weight!

I heard from someone who worked on the show that she was sometimes MIA during production and she’d be found in a nearby bar. She never struck me as a drinker though.

R148 and r171 have it. She likes attention. Constant, relentless attention and it doesn’t matter if it’s negative or positive.

IMHO Girls did well because it was very specific, like High Maintenance. Unlike HM, however, it lacked depth, and had atrocious, shallow characters, which was its point; that millennials seem particularly awful, but they do grow up and hopefully become less atrocious. It was an updated SATC.

Re: her family connections, I thought I read somewhere that her mother is good friends with Meryl.

I don't understand how anyone liked the show Girls. I stopped watching after the episode where Lens said her pussy was tight like a two year olds. WTF? I guess it explains the pebble story though.

Lena's father drew lots and lots of penises before he switched to vulvas and assholes. No way someone like that has normal boundaries--and the amount of money paid for his paintings certainly would have taught Lena the value of being a provacateur.

I don't think it was her family's connections, per se, that got her where she was, but I think she learned how to maneuver pretty adeptly among the NY in-crowd from them. She went to the right schools, knew lots of people from going to a private school in NY and then had her parent's support (and their fab apartment) to make Tiny Furniture. She did it early, so, at the time, she came off as a distinctive voice for a generation that older people like Apatow, Ephron and Remnick all wanted to reach. Since Dunham had a head start from her parents being big in NYC art circles, she didn't hesitate and dove right in. I suspect she's wonderful at being a flattering attentive listener when it comes to big wheels like Nora Ephron, Judd Apatow and David Remnick.

She isn't untalented--sorry--but she is self-involved and wearisome. Her response to the end of Girls and her long-term relationship is to have become a professional victim. While that's a popular profession these days, it's one for which there's a lot of competition and one where she looks ridiculous--since we know she's a rich girl who knows everybody.

Baby sister also sounds fucked up--nonbinary "they" always reads as someone desperate for attention.

R115 The cunt doesn't fall far from the cunt.

What does she claim caused her previously "undiagnosed" PTSD? Has she ever said?

R188 see R138

R136 the dad gives me child molester vibes

I still say her Sensual Pantsuit video cost Hillary the election.

Where's a good post-op infection when you need one? I don't want her to die. I just want her in a coma, one of those Sunny von Bulow comas.

R162, her first book "undersold." With the advance she got, the publisher needed to sell about 500,000 copies just to break even. It sold slightly over that in all formats combined, and it took over a year.

Again, her media hype way surpasses her actual popularity.

R188 Maybe she self-molested when she ran out of siblings.

Does she have PTSD due to self molestation? I wouldn't put it past her.

If it's from routine medical exams and a sexual assault that never happened then WTF? Is she mentally ill? Not just a fucking bitch but seriously mentally ill?

Hold on a sec, every single person we see in the spotlight has contorted their image to fit into our current idealized version of attractiveness.

This is one reason why Dunam's nonconformity is so galling, she is demanding to be seen and heard at the same time she makes no effort to appear even reasonably attractive. I would not describe her choices as "brave" even as I understand completely why she irritates.

You may recall the backlash Dunham received when she wrote she felt dismissed by an athlete at the Vogue Met museum function a few years back. Dunham's deliberately dumpy appearance is part of her performance. Dunham is a plain jane who is demanding acceptance ( and attention) "as is" while a JLO type goes all out to represent an image of idealized feminine beauty. JLO is very much a plain jane without "the works". JLO doesn't look like JLO without the spray tan, hair extensions and carefully contoured makeup on her face and body.

Dunham unrelenting dowdy appearance is confrontational and extremely irritating!

That said, JLOS artificial glamazon look is also an irritation, for some. JLO has limited skill as an actor, singer and dancer "the works" is a distraction to the fact she has these limitations. You can be a JLO type and dismissed for being artificial or you can be a Dunham type and dismissed for being an attention seeking, frumpy, frowsy plain Jane who makes zero effort to look even remotely attractive.

[quote]JLO is very much a plain jane without "the works". JLO doesn't look like JLO without the spray tan, hair extensions and carefully contoured makeup on her face and body.

Please, R197, you are going to compare JLo's toned body with Dunham's anemic looking sack-of-potatoes body? Even if JLo is plain without all the artifice, there is no comparison in the figure department.

JLo is 49 and is in amazing shape, Lens looks like a dumpy middle-age flyover woman with 5 kids who lives in a trailer park, Lens is only 32!

Oh yes, JLo looks that good after having twins!

R197 "JLO is very much a plain jane without "the works"."

Beg to disagree. Granted, she's practically a drag queen when she's full on JLo, but the woman is a natural beauty (and yes, I say that knowing she's likely had some well chose subtle plastic surgery).

Lens has NPD and maybe another personality disorder, I think she is using PTSD to excuse her bad behavior because it sounds cooler and gets her more sympathy. No one wants to admit they have the same disorders as Trump.

Lopez has a very pleasant face and keeps her body fit. The comparison above and Lopez analysis is half baked. We got the general logic however. Also Dunham's main schtick is to not make her self attractive but 50% of her adult life and appearances she has in fact made an effort and even went through years in which she tried to give society's beauty standards some power over her dressing and her body. So to say she insists on people taking her as Plain Jane only covers a part of her lived experience. I think she is reliably inconsistent and also a bullshitter and contradictorian. She is histrionic. An attention seeker. I'm not convinced she has clinical NPD.

R191 not sure if you're being sarcastic, but if not then you're giving her waaaay too much credit by suggesting she has enough clout to influence a presidential election. The vast majority of the population pays zero attention to anything she does. Hell, even that video you linked only has 200k views, that's nothing by YT standards.

But the "New York" article says she has 3 million IG followers. Isn't that a lot?

Oh please. How many of them are Taylor Swift fans who started following her because "OMG they're FRIENDS!"

Besides, as everyone who has hired Robert Pattinson or Kristen Stewart for anything post-Twilight has learned the hard way, online fans do not automatically translate into real world bank.

Swift has 113 million IG followers. Lens' "digital strategist" (referred to in the article) better stop shirking and get working.

She is going to discover herself increasingly unloved and unfucked. At a relatively young age. If she made an effort to be pretty in the face and well dressed in a "feminine" way, and seductive and role play some female stereotypes, she could attract dark meat. Many guys from non white cultures like a fat woman, including a fat white chick, but she has to be womanly.

Fucking even Kanye got liposuction FFS!

Lena should get her tummy fat taken out, then her thighs, and get a stomach gastro thing done to lessen the amount of food she can inhale.

She's got the money if she wanted to clean up and lose weight she can use medical science.

Forgive me if this has already been posted but everyone should check out the Lens Dunham Apology Generator on Twitter.

[quote]Lena Dunham Apologizes To The Peruvian Flute Band In Her Local Shopping Mall For Constantly Talking About 'Kween-Oh-Ah' On Her Podcast About Salads

[quote]Dunham unrelenting dowdy appearance is confrontational and extremely irritating!

Dunham is an incredibly irritating person, but it's equally irritating to see people insist that women have to basically dress as drag queens and go through hours and hours of prep and ridiculous maintenance of weight, hair, fashion, or else they are not allowed to be celebrities.

Your closed-mindedness is what her performance is trying to address.

She's not good at it, but that doesn't somehow mean you're morally and ethically right to expect all women to look like JLo or else they are unworthy.

A lot of women, especially comedians, based much of their act on their unconventional appearance. But all of them, from Joan Rivers to Carol Burnett to Phyllis Diller went through excruciating plastic surgery and heavy-duty makeovers to get more conventionally attractive, because of the attitude like yours.

Why can't a young celebrity in 2018 stand up against that?

If only that celebrity wasn't Lena Dunham. She's awful at this, and it's why so many can't understand the message, because she has no ability to deliver a message other than "hey look at me."

I’m in complete agreement with R171.

Dunham looks dirty. Smelly. Messy.

[quote]She's not good at it, but that doesn't somehow mean you're morally and ethically right to expect all women to look like JLo or else they are unworthy.

No one expects Lena to look like JLo. All we ask of Lena Dunham is that she have the decency to keep her clothes on. We're allowed to call her fat and unlovely when she disrobes. It's an apt and valid opinion.

jlo doesnt look like jlo without a great deal of effort

[quote]All we ask of Lena Dunham is that she have the decency to keep her clothes on.

Sleeves are good! If she would just wear sleeves. And long pants that aren't too tight... and maybe a hat to obscure most of her face.

R210 I think she uses her 'ugliness' for attention (as others have said), not as a political / feminist statement. Her ugliness gets a lot of attention, and they good thing about being ugly, it takes no effort.

A lot of Lens' ugliness comes from her ugly personality.

R210, I concur. It's the right message poorly delivered by the wrong person.

r210

phyllis diller had an 'unconventional appearance' and her standup routine was based around the many elective procedures she endured to 'correct' her appearance.

joan rivers? died on the operating tale having yet another elective procedure.

Honestly though what kind of plastic surgery would make her face look better? I can't even see it.

She’s fucking repulsive.

r218,

ha!

lens is a female seth rogan type. people wondered how or why he was paired with katherine heigel in that film , 'knocked-up' but no one asked for his head on a plate.

Her face used to be fine; not pretty, but not hideous. She chooses to look like a potato because it gets attention and racks up the victim points when people comment on the obvious.

I agree that Carroll Dunham is creepy. Like "dead bodies hidden in the basement" creepy.

R233, I don’t mean to be offensive, but he looks like an angry FTM.

He sure looks angry.

To all the people saying how cruel we are to mock Dunham's appearance: she's gotten plenty of positive attention for it too. When Girls started, she was called "daring" and "brave," for "showing off a body that's not a size two."

Her father looks like a pretentious self important asshole. Evidently she learned all of her behaviour from such a man.

R222, yes, Lens can look somewhat attractive (even without plastic surgery and weight loss). She would rather get attention for being a fat slob than no attention as a plain woman.

R160, that's actually pretty common, though I agree she takes it to near pathological levels. People don't actually grasp the impact of such illnesses unless they have direct experience. People who mock people with fibromyalgia, for example, and those who think they have it because they're tired a lot are operating from the same assumptions.

Her whole family in Tiny Furniture were insufferable.

Jews live to be 90 but they start looking old in their late twenties. From thirty onward they start to look like wizened souls of sixty or more. Lena is 32 but she looks 42.

r231, you are a consummate jerk.

Thank you, R232. I take that as a compliment.

I agree with others here who don't mind Lens' average looks at all. But she seems to try very hard to be aggressively unattractive---more so that she actually is. She begs for criticism so she can rant about her imagined victimhood.

I watched a few episodes of Girls and was repulsed, not by her body, but by her exhibitionism. She flaunted her nudity continually, in inappropriate settings, and when there was absolutely no reason to re. the plot. There was an entire episode where she walked around in a skimpy bikini. It was set at the beach house of a friend of hers (Hamptons?). Anyway, it was so ridiculous that she never changed that scuzzy bikini the whole weekend. Every other character was dressed when not at the beach. Not our Lens--while lounging around the house, taking bike rides, going shopping, eating out at restaurants, etc.---she only wore a bikini with her flab hanging out in every direction. Something is very wrong with that woman. I blame her parents, mostly that creepy dad.

[quote]She begs for criticism so she can rant about her imagined victimhood.

^^This.

R160, Ehler-Danlos is one of the syndromes/disorders that these people with factitious disorders just LOVE. Along with fibromyalgia, CFS, Lyme Disease, lupus, celiac, PCOS... I’m forgetting some.

Which is not to say that these are not real illnesses. They are. But the factitious usually have one or more of these, coupled with bipolar or depression. That’s how you can tell.

Oh, and having anything precancerous removed/pathology report stage 0 is being “a cancer survivor”.

She also suffered from endometriosis.

I would LOVE to tell you about my pain, R236, but I don't want to get this thread shut down.

[quote] to be fair, her first book was a bestseller, so she indeed has an audience

So does Khloe Kardashian after she wrote her bestseller. I'm not clear as to your point.

Jews live to be 90 but they start looking old in their late twenties. From thirty onward they start to look like wizened souls of sixty or more.

THIS.

My mom looked at photos from my 25th college reunion of my ex (a great beauty when he was 20), and said, "He grew up to look like someone's little old Jewish uncle!"

R238, that’s another one! Crippling pain that “just because you can’t SEE it doesn’t mean it’s imaginary!”

(Once again, I know some people really have those ailments.)

Thanks to HIPAA, it’s impossible to prove they’re exaggerating. And they’ll doctor-shop until they find a simpatico doctor.

They also love medical apparatus like wrist braces for carpal tunnel (another one they love!) and neck braces, soft casts, slings, canes...

[quote]I agree that Carroll Dunham is creepy. Like "dead bodies hidden in the basement" creepy.

Carroll Dunham's entire persona is just another pose. The fine arts world is incredibly cutthroat, if you think his persona is not contrived down to the last miserable smirk, think again.

Carroll Dunham sure does want the world to think he's a superior smug 'creative' asshole, that image though negative, is still an image and it works for him.

I'm sure the Dunham girls have picked up on how their parents have carefully curated their images as 'fine artists'. They've applied it to their lives.

Lens has created an image of a self-absorbed privileged millennial who doesn't care about how she looks. Yet her human potato 'look' itself is actually as carefully curated as a person who spends hours preparing themselves before they go out. Much in the same way Bruce Springsteen's 'everyman' stance is also carefully thought out.

R243, I think you’re right.

The problem with Lens image working for women who look like her, we still live in world where women are judged on their attractiveness.

Basically, the image Lens is trying to impose on plain women will not work for them. It also has to do with social class. Wealthy people always get away with a lot of nonsense the average person cannot get away with.

When 'creative' wealthy people pull the bullshit Lens does, they're deemed 'eccentric'. When a normal working class or middle class person does the same, they're 'crazy'. Think about it. Money changes everything.

[quote]The problem with Lens image working for women who look like her, we still live in world where women are judged on their attractiveness.

And we always will. Men are still judged on their attractiveness too - whether that means money or muscles.

The parents, just like Lens, have zero technical skill. Hence they are a lot of style over substance.

I think she is a cutie pie! I bet she has cute toes. Tinkle, tickle, twinkle...

I never thought of her as an addict until this link. No BENZO wristband, lol. Do you think she even has/had any addictions?

Dunham's face is fine--main issues are lack of definition and a thin mouth--both are things that could be worked on with make-up. Weight loss would give her a decent figure. She could afford a trainer--and exercise would be good for all those nebulous illnesses she's added on to the endometriosis--but I think there are emotional issues at work--a need for love and attention despite her showing her worst self. Which isn't that big a deal in some ways--it's kind of what we all want in intimate relationships. The odd thing is that she seems to need it from the world at large. It's an aggressive lack of boundaries.

She reminds me a little bit of some of the people who hung around Warhol--the ones who would say anything, do anything, to get noticed.

At the time she did Tiny Furniture, when her Girls persona wasn't yet entrenched, Interview took some glam photos of her.

[quote]Lens has created an image of a self-absorbed privileged millennial who doesn't care about how she looks. Yet her human potato 'look' itself is actually as carefully curated as a person who spends hours preparing themselves before they go out. Much in the same way Bruce Springsteen's 'everyman' stance is also carefully thought out.

Definitely. I don't think there's anyone who doesn't think her whole image is contrived.

r243 Carroll Dunham's persona isn't an act. He really is like that, it's his natural personality.

[quote]Thanks to HIPAA, it’s impossible to prove they’re exaggerating.

It shouldn't be, if the doctors do their job. The symptoms should be present for at least six months before a diagnosis is even talked of. There are relevant lab tests and physical exams which, in most cases, will rule the illness in or out. The number of people who successfully fake a condition is small. The number of people who are diagnosed with one of the conditions but actually has something else is probably larger. (Addison's disease, cancer, depression.)

[quote]Which is not to say that these are not real illnesses. They are. But the factitious usually have one or more of these, coupled with bipolar or depression. That’s how you can tell.

Granted, you can usually tell when the supposed diagnoses pile up. But if someone has a diagnosis from a doctor or hospital consultant, it's usually genuine.

[quote]Carroll Dunham's persona isn't an act. He really is like that, it's his natural personality.

Do you know him personally, if so, spill the tea. What's his voice like? He strikes me as someone who speaks in a weird affected monotone.

How can anyone so wealthy be that miserable? He's also doing what he wants for a living, why the downbeat attitude and creepy demeanor?

Most peoples problems are rooted in financial problems. They're lying if they tell you otherwise. I worked with man who lived a high-end lifestyle he couldn't afford, his downfall was spectacular.

This is an ignorant opinion, r254. Sorry, but it just is.

By the end of Season 1 of Girls, she had more mentions in the New York Times than Kate Winslet. Think about that.

I've said this before, but it irks me that she never got braces for her jacked teeth. Her family is wealthy; it's like a reverse conceit.

[quote]This is an ignorant opinion, [R254]. Sorry, but it just is.

Why is it ignorant? Please explain.

Because you grew up without any problems, no struggles, like Lena, from an upper middle class now wealthy family? You assume that doing what you want for a living and making good money wouldn't make the average person happy. It would, believe me. Anyone folding sweaters at the GAP, working at Costco or basically do any sort of low paid manual labor would love to have Lena's or her father's life.

Making decent money and not worrying if you can pay your most basic of bills does make most people happy.

Of course, I'm quite aware many wealthy people can be depressed. A close friend makes about two million a year, he's one of the most depressed people I know. Yet he continues to wallow in his depression, he refuses to get professional help. It's not as if he uses his depression in a creative way for his work, he doesn't. He's not any sort of artist or even a writer.

btw, R252, you haven't explained how you know Carroll Dunham's personality isn't a pose.

Here's an almost 60 minute interview with CD, I couldn't get through 5 minutes!

CD creates!

r259 I know people who've had interactions with Carroll Dunham at private events, and he is insufferable.

Carroll Dunham and his family prove that talent is no longer a prerequisite for being an artist in the 21st century. At least in New York, London and other global cities. It's not that he's working in a primitive style - Rousseau worked in what was considered the "primitive" style and it was always clear he was fabulously gifted - it's that his complete lack of artistic talent is obvious in his work.

Just to freshen the eyes after peer at the Carroll Dunham atrocities.

The Dunhams, pere and fille, apparently deal in selling crude ugliness.

Perfectly Trumpian art.

If you consider the Lens was raised to believe that what is ugly is beautiful and what is beautiful is ugly it all begins to make perfect sense. Taught it all by dad. I think through our collective efforts we have cracked the code of the Dunham family.

How can I apply Dunham family insights to my own life?

I don't mind CD's work. It'd be pleasant enough to look at in a gallery setting. It's not bracing or deep, but it's ok.

I still won't click on the link of him being interviewed. I'll just stipulate he's insufferable.

How come she never draws attention to or raises awareness of the conditions that she actually suffers from... Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Obesity, and Jacked Teeth???

Her teeth aren’t jacked, they’re just small, which makes her look like a baby. And like that Critter someone keeps posting and really nails it. What is she gonna do, get bigger teeth? Combine that with her her pudgy body, the visual the writer of the article provides of her living in pajamas and saying, “Mama, mama, mama...” it’s very creepy. Maybe the whole thing is a performance piece by her parents.

I don’t mind her mother’s work, though she’s a one trick pony. Her father’s paintings are eye-raoes. As though this works needed more ugly.

Speaking of assaults, what were the “medical assaults” Lens suffered from which gave her PTSD? I couldn’t finish the article, my phone kept reloading the site and I’d get a blank screen.

Eye-rapes. And “this World.”

I just laughed out loud R270! It really is perfect!

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She is just repulsive in every way. A big soul-searching existential crisis about her teeth FFS! Teeth whitening takes 30 minutes and you can certainly afford it, just go get it done you whining pain in the ass!

[quote]The sweet holiday irony of them birthing hips on a girl with no uterus.

Sexy Lens! She's looks about 45 here.

How did all these actors keep a straight face looking at her naked body?!!

You've gotta give Riz credit for being able to lift this human manatee!

[quote]The sweet holiday irony of them birthing hips on a girl with no uterus.

Bitch, you are not the first woman to have a hysterectomy, or find herself infertile.

Maybe you should get some counseling, as you are not capable of dealing with the realities of life.

The shape of her boobs is so weird.

I don't know if you r156 and r210 and being deliberately obtuse or are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

That athlete Dunham complained about looked her up and down as in: " what the hell is this thing doing here at ANNA WINTORIOUS VOGUE MAGAZINE" Met Museum costume ball?!!!"

You know he looked her up and down in a dismissive fashion and you would have done the same, so don't make this about me.

I doubt Joan Rivers opinion and her multiple cosmetic procedures ( including the elective procedure that killed her) or Phyllis Diller standup routine were formed based on my opinion!

Joan Rivers skewered other people's appearance ( including their sartorial choices) for years on "Fashion Police".

Whaddya think Joan Rivers would have to say about someone like Lena Dunham's appearance?

Dunham frequently wears expensive designer clothing that highlights every bit of cellulite on her body!

IMO, Dunham is being eviscerated because she just ain't cute, makes no effort to be cute and casts herself as the female lead- period.

Seth Rogan was mocked for starring in romcoms as the romantic lead but he has not been raked over the coals for the impropriety of daring to step outside of his natural role as fat "funny " sexless sidekick.

Dunham is a pasty, dumpy looking little thing demanding to be seen and heard and it is infuriating!

She looks like Vic Tayback in drag. If they ever do an Alice reboot, she could play a trans Mel.

The only thing keeping her from being the most exhausting person on the planet is she isn't trans. Yet.

R280 and r281 made me ugly snort-laugh.

R281, you know that's next. Then she'll do some sort of collaboration with Alok and Jacob.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if she called herself trans just to get attention. Her sister is already non-binary.

There is practically nothing DLers can unanimously agree on, but the hate for Lena Dunham seems to be the only thing.

She not worthy of that dishonor.

Seems she cast all those hot actors opposite her because she knows she can't get them in real life.

Despite her fame, she cannot get a hot BF.

Poor Riz @ R275 and R276. In real life there is no way in hell a guy like that would be caught dead within 50 yards of someone like Lens. And I really just don't get how she can present herself to the world looking like that @ R276. Is she is deranged? Is she trying to prove a point of some kind? Does she think paying hot guys to 'act' like they want her in the show will somehow translate to hot men desiring her in RL? It's all so second hand embarrassing.

What do you think Lens smells like? Dirty feet, BO, stinky pussy, or ass?

[quote]Poor Riz @ [R275] and [R276]. In real life there is no way in hell a guy like that would be caught dead within 50 yards of someone like Lens.

That entire episode with Riz was ridiculous. It reminded me of the Patrick Wilson episode, I was thinking it was a fantasy. Riz's character took off from his surf instructing job to spend the entire weekend fucking Lens character Hannah!

She seems to go out of her way to be repulsive.

Lens is definitely an exhibitionist. Even when it wasn't called for to get naked, she found some way to add it to a script.

[quote]Lens is definitely an exhibitionist. Even when it wasn't called for to get naked, she found some way to add it to a script.

That's what her ex-boyfriend means about her being a provocateur. She likes to get naked, because she knows it pisses people off. And as someone mentioned up thread, she likes to wear the most unflattering clothes that accentuate her fat rolls for the same reason. That she then bitches that she was dismissed by a famous athlete as being unworthy of attention, because she's unappealing is the irony. Bitch, you work at it!

What's weird is that I remember reading somewhere about her gushing about getting some cosmetic treatment that gave her fuller eyebrows. You would think she'd be happy about having sparse brows. It goes with her whole potato shtick.

Oh R291, no one needed to see that. Now how am I supposed to unsee that....image?

Yes her boobs are weird. It looks more like she has gynecomastia.

R292 Agree. Lens is nothing more than a narcissistic attention whore. Nothing to see here folks.

R294 Lens turning trans would not surprise me. Just think of all the press she will get!

Grace became Cyrus. What will name will trans Lens choose?

R297 Leon? It sounds like Lena.

R297 If she decides to make the change she should go with Meat Loaf. It would suit her.

For those of you agonizing over the perfect gift for Lens, these are a few of her favorite things:

[bold]Joe Boxer Women’s 6-Pack Low-rise String Bikini Panties[/bold]

[quote]I love a slightly baggy, but fun underpant [...] I now order the string bikini brief in a large, even though a medium might be more supportive of my butt, but this gives me a little tail.

[bold]4th & Heart Himalayan Pink Salt Grass-fed Ghee Butter[/bold]

[quote]I went through a phase, it was so dark, where I would just eat things that could support this ghee: a hamburger with some ghee on it, rice with ghee in it.

[bold]Glutino Gluten-Free Crackers, Multigrain[/bold]

[quote]sometimes I eat a Glutino cracker by itself and wash it down with ginger ale, which is just the most luxurious in-bed combination.

[bold]Lauren Napier Facial Wipes[/bold]

[quote]I don’t want to shower that much; I don’t want to wash my face. [....] I’ve also been known to use them in my armpits.

[bold]Battle Creek Heating Pad[/bold]

[quote]I have endometriosis, which I am very vocal about, and this heating pad is my biggest pain-reduction tool. [...] I’ll wrap it around my whole torso, and since I’m cold all the time, sometimes I rest it under my feet

[bold]Silvert’s Senior Care Nonskid Hospital Socks[/bold]

[quote]I wouldn’t recommend anyone stay at the hospital for 17 days, but I would say the primary benefit are the socks they give you: They are amazing. So soft. [...] You just can’t be bothered by the slightly morose aspect of it.

[quote]I don't want to shower that much; I don't want to wash my face. [....] I've also been known to use them in my armpits.

This is just fucking gross.

She really epitomizes the stereotype of the TMI navel gazing millennial.

The athlete she was whing about is Odell Beckham, and she was completely projecting, unsurprisingly. When interviewed after the Twitter furor about her statements, he was genuinely dumbfounded that she had said that, and didn't even know who she was. Odell is also rumored to be gay, so there's that.

^whining

Regarding Odell: "I went ahead and projected these insecurities and made totally narcissistic assumptions about what he was thinking, then presented those assumptions as facts,” she wrote. Because after listening to lots of valid criticism, I see how unfair it is to ascribe misogynistic thoughts to someone I don’t know AT ALL.”

But most importantly, I would never intentionally contribute to a long and often violent history of the over-sexualization of black male bodies- as well as false accusations by white women towards black men, the actress continued. I’m so sorry, particularly to OBJ.”

I actually thought R300 made all that up himself and it was hilarious, til I saw the article at the bottom. SMH

I just realized that Lens resembles character actor Kurt Kasnar from certain angles...

[quote]I don’t want to shower that much; I don’t want to wash my face. [....] I’ve also been known to use them in my armpits.

I just don't get people who are lax with personal hygiene. Is this blob so lazy she can't walk into her bathroom and shower? There's also the arrogance factor involved. Many celebs have bad personal hygiene, it's been covered on DL ad nauseam.

I wonder if Lens showered before her nude sex scenes with her co-stars or did all those men have to smell a week's worth of fetid crotch, oily hair and and badly wiped ass!??

btw, here's actor Kurt Kasnar. It would be nice to add a photo, many have no idea who this man was. Lens even has funky teeth like Kurt.

I agree that Dunham never looks clean. She always looks grubby and unwashed, and if she stinks of rank BO.

[R291] Yikes! I think I need to be treated for PTSD now. This is what you get when a person has no boundaries, no ability to see themselves as others see them - perhaps it's related to sexual abuse/mental illness or perhaps not. I remember reading an idiotic statement she uttered about our current culture being "repressive" and "Victorian." What fucking planet is this crazy person living on? The problem is people no longer have perspective about what's "appropriate" behavior because there's no cohesive cultural consensus. Hence, the epidemic of the "offended." I'd like to see her try her antics in a truly repressive culture like Saudi Arabia or Yemen.

Stinkier pussy lens or Cheryl?

She looks like the Pillsbury Doughboy's resentful, bitter, older sister

It's all an act with Lens. She knows exactly how others see her--she obsesses about it all the time.

R128 in terms of appearance that's what more/less Roseanne Barr did. She once said "Hollywood doesn't;t like fat people, so even at my most popular I wasn't accepted there."

Agree with R313. She's just as fake as everyone else in Hollywood.

[quote]in terms of appearance that's what more/less Roseanne Barr did. She once said "Hollywood doesn't like fat people, so even at my most popular I wasn't accepted there."

Yet, Roseanne never assaulted us with being nude in her films or her TV series. Roseanne's TV series wasn't about her character whining about being misunderstood and victimized. Roseanne's character, on the original series, was actually an activist for women and the working class.

There's a huge difference between Roseanne's character and the stance a privileged woman like Lens is taking. Most hard working people could give a shit about spoiled navel gazing millennials, whiners are simply not very interesting.

There are many overweight people in showbiz, the difference, LD is an exhibitionist, she goes out of her way to assault the public with her glowing white potato body. Even if Lens was attractive, she's so damn annoying, she'd still turn people off.

[quote]Your closed-mindedness is what her performance is trying to address.

Smell you, bitch!

[quote]Grace became Cyrus. What will name will trans Lens choose?

Lens.

Is this nonsense really necessary?

R319, it’s necessary to Lens. She needs the attention.

I think she will marry a trashy filthy rich French guy and move dramatically to Paris for her Paris Years. Which will last 2 years.

She does look unwashed all the time now. She didn't always. When Girls first started she looked put together during PR appearances. She looked better off the show than on. Her character Hanah always looked a mess but Lena looked okay. She wasn't hot, but her hair and makeup were done and her clothes were okay ( she doesn't have the easiest body to dress). Every picture I've seen of her recently is awful. She's in rumpled T shirts with messy hair. Doesn't she have friends? Losing interest in bathing and grooming is a sign of mental or physical illness. Someone needs to tell her to pull herself together. She's like 30 and has given up.

I'm guessing the loss of fertility, loss of long time boyfriend plus ending of show happening in rapid succession took away her will to live. It doesn't help that she wasn't given any coping mechanisms by her parents. In an interview she said that her dad would encourage to just walk away from the show whenever she talked about being stressed. She said when she first started the show, she would just run out of room when fellow writers or producers disagreed with her. She said she was grateful to her co show runner for teaching her that wasn't okay and how to have a debate. She does seem stuck on this middle school level of attention seeking through shock, that isn't even all that shocking.

I enjoyed the story on Girls where she was the worst teacher ever.

We need to know more about her father. I know a bit about Laurie Simmons, she's from a wealthy Far Rockaway Jewish family. Her dad was a dentist. She has a BFA from the Tyler School of Art. Laurie is 69.

Carroll is a Wasp, born in Connecticut. IIRC, I read the men in his family were in the military. He doesn't seem to mention this when interviewed. Carroll is also 69.

When people go on about Lens being "Jewish", they might not realize both parents aren't Jewish.

R321, French guys do not like fat.

Why doesn't she like to shower? Showering is wonderful and should be done frequently. Do Hollywood stars become filthy or something?

I remember seeing an interview with Kristen Stewart and Jessie Esineberg for their spy movie and the interviewer asked them both "Have you ever gone three days without showering?" and Kristen Stewart looked positively dumbfounded at the question. As if that was her normal hygiene routine LOl. "Um, YEAH," she said. Jessie laughed but didn't answer.

I don’t understand the unwillingness to shower. I know a frau who is like this. Says she’s doesn’t have time, what with the kiddos. But how long does it take? And listen, the BO is not to be believed. Don’t the people with it smell it?!

As for Lens, how can she NOT HAVE TIME to take a shower?!

If I go without showering in the morning, I feel disgusting, dirty and greasy.

[quote]When I’m shooting, I can’t be expected to get home at 11 p.m. and do a full facial cleansing.

I’m guessing she also “can’t be expected” to brush her teeth or change her tampon.

Athough, thankfully, the latter is no longer an issue.

Seconded, R328. The only time I don't shower is when I'm in the hospital. (I have cancer.) Depending on the surgery sometimes I can't shower for a day or two when I get back home, which drives me nuts. A hot shower is the number one thing I look forward to after being discharged from the hospital.

[quote]Why doesn't she like to shower?

She’s too “tender to the touch” to tolerate all of that water raining down on her.

Also from r300...

[quote]They look like a cute tennis shoe, but they have a very supportive insole. You can throw them in the washing machine.

There’s no doubt in my mind that her filthy sneakers, which have slogged through who knows what, get washed in the same load as her underwear. Cold water, because she needs her drawers to be saggy enough to give her a tail.

I feel so sorry for any actor who had to do a love scene with her. She seems to revel in her unattractiveness. It reminds me of something Ken Wahl said about having to do a love scene with Bette Midler; he said in order to get through it had had to think of his dog.

Lens looks like she has a troll living deep within her twat.

That MET event is a celebration of the elite, is there a person alive more image or status conscious than Wintour?

Dunham looks like the assistant of an assistant, not an attendee of such an event. I'm almost certain Odell Beckham was not the only person who looked her over that night and wondered "WTF"?!

She doesn't like to shower because she lives to repulse people. I bet she made herself extra stinky for her love scenes on her show.

I can't imagine being fat AND having small tits. That's just not fair. The one perk of being fat is big boobs.

Apparently "New York" has reported an error in its article: Lens' doctors are the injured parties suffering from PTSD from medical trauma, not Lens herself.

She remembers, right after the hysterectomy, crying to Jemima Kirke, “Who’s gonna want to date me? I have PTSD and no uterus.” Kirke’s answer: “A soldier who hates condoms.”

Kirke hates her.

All joking aside, I think it's a shame that PTSD gets trivialized by Lens & her ilk. Given her vast amount of oversharing, it's not exactly clear what caused her to have PTSD in the first place, yet she uses it as a crutch for being a high maintenance and annoying person. It takes a serious condition and turns it into a condition of special snowflake types. Lens going to intense therapy for PTSD when "Camping" was in production seems to indicate it's a card she plays when things get tense & she can't handle it anymore.

Ww R338

She looks like Paul Giamatti in (R276)'s pic

Her entire career at this point consists of interviews and social media post regarding her medical problems. What in the world makes her think people want to look at endless photos of her moping around half naked looking unhappy and in some sort of vague pain?

She does look Paul Giamatti! I see it.

Braces would widen her smile, giving her less of a hamster effect.

Her mother seems to want to move away from her in their photos together. She's leaning away or not showing affection, while Lens is hugging her or leaning into her. Mom is focussed on the camera, Lens is focussed on Mommy.

The article makes mum sound responsible but not warm. I think she recognises that she brought Lens into the world and raised her this way, so now she must follow through with the consequences.

I can see the father approaching parenting like a performance art project, and the mother not feeling warm toward her pebble/vagina inclined daughter. Lens is now constantly seeking that warmth and attention.

Oh brother, R345. Three cunts. There, I described mother father and daughter.

She mentioned her 24 lb weight gain following the hysterectomy (not uncommon) and wanting to call attention to brands that make clothing (in her case pjs) for larger sizes.

She's going to be hard core Health At Every Size soon.

I remember an article a few years back when she was saying she was an Un-Hollywood size 8, and there was no way she was an 8 at that point, even with vanity sizing.

Typical attitude of "love me at my size that I'm going to lie about."

She should make an Ash Wednesday or The Girl Most Likely. She can shoot the beginning in secret. Then over a year drop the blubber and prettify. Then finish the movie. Between the wrap and the premiere, she can pork up again and say it's all a statement about beauty, Hollywood, patriarchy, blah blah blah blah blah

Who Wore It Better - Lena Dunham or a can of Pillsbury biscuits?

r333 Ken Wahl sounds like an a-hole

OMG. Her father’s “art” is ideous. Everything about her falls into place when you see his crap.

*hideous

She is tedious.

And hideous.

She really does look like she smells. Always unkempt and slovenly-looking.

she doesnt look dirty but she doesnt look good

Has she ever commented on her father's atrocious "art?" You'd think a hypersensitive snowflake type would have a few things to say about a supposedly straight (tho in reality, he's most likely a closeted queen) male artist who mostly paints grotesque, aggressive images of faceless, naked, women bending over. One painting even shows a woman shoving a gun into her asshole.

Does she ever cast other fat, dumpy unappealing actresses in her shows? Or is she usually the only ugly cow in a sea of good-looking actors? If she wants to force audiences to look past people's appearances, she should be giving job opportunities to other unattractive performers. In real life, fatties and uggos don't usually hang around with a pack of otherwise beautiful people.

Good read in today's Guardian.

No amount of those articles will make people like Lens, or feel bad for talking shit about her. Even Lens describes herself as a marshmallow, she is disgusting and everyone knows it. No one tuned in for her last show on HBO, she has always been a media darling but you can't force people to like someone like that.

Never forget

If her uterus was removed, why keep one ovary?! WTF?

Why didn't she have a complete hysterectomy? Does she want to harvest eggs from the one ovary, the have a surrogate carry her baby?

If that's the case, she should never consider bringing a child into the world, she's way too self-absorbed and immature to have a kid.

"I can't imagine being fat AND having small tits."

Indeed there are flat-chested fat girls. They just don't have boobage, although they're well endowed everywhere else. That's the way nature made them.

I carry my extra weight in my tits and ass. It’s a blessing.

[quote]If her uterus was removed, why keep one ovary?! WTF?

It’s so the body continues to produce estrogen and the normal female hormones as before.

It’s commonly done in younger women who have a hysterectomy for non-cancer reasons.

R362, um, it's not a good idea to remove parts, especially ones that produce hormones, for no reason. Without that ovary, she'd plunge into early menopause.

She has already done that as a result of the surgery. And it was/will be rapid onset, not a gradual hormonal change.

Saint Angelina has been removing parts for years. Maybe Lens and Angelina could become BFFs.

No R367, she's in perimenopause thanks to that one ovary. There's a big difference.

Then that explains why she kept the one ovary.

I bet her next project is a reality show. Her living at home with Laurie and Carroll.

Admit it, DL, you’d watch Dallying With the Dunhams!

[quote]It’s so the body continues to produce estrogen and the normal female hormones as before. It’s commonly done in younger women who have a hysterectomy for non-cancer reasons.

Yet, it appears she already had hormonal issues in addition to her endometriosis situation. She has extremely thin hair and in some seasons of GIRLS, I noticed what looked like very widely thinning parts and even a bald spot. That's not normal for such a young woman. Her sister had thick hair in TINY FURNITURE and her mom has a decent amount of hair for a woman pushing 70.

Thinning hair in young women is usually a sign of too much testosterone or too little estrogen. Women with PCOS also have obvious hair loss.

R372 all the more reason to keep one estrogen producing ovary. PCOS is typically treated by removing ovaries. T blockers and or estrogen replacement drugs are best if she's got a hormone imbalance.

Her reality show would follow her to alllll her doctors’ appts - even and especially the PTSD-inducing ones!!

My friend had to get a full hysterectomy in her early 30s for stage IV cancer, and going into early menopause has caused her all kinds of unpleasant side effects. Definitely smart of Dunham to keep in an ovary to prevent that since she doesn't have cancer.

R361 Taylor Swift has camel toe in that pic. And Lena Dunham has moose knuckle.

I think Lens's life would've been easier if she had been a full-on diesel dyke. Looking the way she does, and being attracted to men, is really unfortunate and not doing her any favors.

r361, do you think Lena secretly despises Taylor and her Hitler Youth clique?

R361. Yes. But it’s complicated.

R378, that ^^ was meant for you.

What are your thoughts?

Lens is also odd in that she wants be seen as so 'different' than a typical millennial, she works so hard at it, yet she seems to grovel at the feet of people who are nothing like her brand.

I find it extremely odd that she would even align herself with someone like Taylor Swift, who has minimal talent at best. I don't care how famous and 'popular' Swift it, how many records she sell etc, the general public, as a rule, has terrible taste in who they elevate in pop culture, that's a fact.

I suppose Lens has aligned herself with people like Swift because she needs to remain relevant? Lens, perhaps, sees Swift as relevant. I can't figure it out. If you go by Lens entire presentation, some like TS would be the last person Lens would be caught hanging with.

R381, I think Lens is a little bit masochistic. And what’s more masochistic for a dumpy fat little Jewish girl than trying to befriend a FICKLE tall thin blonde rich perfectionist?

Taylor Swift is the kind of Shiksa that Jewish girls simultaneously hate and are jealous of.

Lorde is now persona non grata.

What's the difference between this painting and Carroll Dunham's 'art'?

This is actually more creative!

That lady has a crown. Carroll’s women don’t.

Lens is only 1/2 Jewish. Her mother was pretty. Her father was nice enough looking. Yet the children......and I think her parents are in an open relationship.

She was a lot better looking with long hair, as in Tiny Furniture. Her ultra shirt hair is so unflattering and really ups her uggo factor.

Ultra SHORT hair.

[R387] Yes, she's 1/2 Jewish but she does that thing so typical of people who trade in identity politics - she picks the race or ethnicity she believes will get the most play. It's why Lens describes herself as "Jewish" and Obama describes himself as "black" while neither is technically true.

R381, don't you see? Lens is SO SPECIAL and awesome that all the cool kids love her even though she's aggressively dumpy. She gives superficial people depth.

In that picture at r361, you can tell Lena feels like she's back at high school as the dumpy geeky unpopular girl who fantasises about murdering these perfect beauties.

Lens, Zosia Mamet, and Evan Jonigkeight are the definition of ugly untalented nepotism.

[quote]Yes, she's 1/2 Jewish but she does that thing so typical of people who trade in identity politics - she picks the race or ethnicity she believes will get the most play. It's why Lens describes herself as "Jewish" and Obama describes himself as "black" while neither is technically true.

Guess you don't realize, when the mother is Jewish, the children automatically identify as Jewish. Not sure if this is the case when either parent is not particularly religious.

Seth Meyers was talking about this last night with Jake Tapper, who gifted Seth with a menorah. He told Jake, "I'm not Jewish, but my wife is, now I have Jewish children." Seth Meyers, the name sure sounds Jewish, but Seth has always insisted he's not. IIRC, his mom is Norwegian and his dad Austrian, they were both born in the US.

[R394] Yes, I've heard that the religion is in theory matrilineal by tradition but I thought that was an old-fashioned thing. I've known plenty of Jews who inherited Judaism from their fathers - particular in cases in which the mother is a Hollywood shiksa. Gwyneth Patrow would be a famous example.

R395, It's either parent if you're Reform, but among Orthodox Jews, the mother has to be Jewish. Otherwise, the child has to convert at some point to be considered Jewish, even if the father is Jewish. Not sure what the Conservatives do.

So Dunham's legitimately Jewish.

As for Obama--his father was Kenyan, which gives him as much or more African blood than a lot of American blacks. He's black because he's seen and treated as black. If he'd said he was white--he'd be condemned for "passing"--so let's not pretend that Obama was choosing to identify as black--American society made that choice for him.

Obviously her obsession with acquiring Sphynx cats right now is her mourning the babies she'll never have: my mother used to say she loved Sphynxes (thank god she never got one) because their hairlessness made them seem like mutant babies.

[quote] Guess you don't realize, when the mother is Jewish, the children automatically identify as Jewish.

That's not true. My stepbrother (his father married my mom) has a Jewish mother, and yet he has never identified as a Jew himself his entirely life.

What would have been true would have been had you written, "when the mother is Jewish, the children automatically [bold]have been traditionally identified by others[/bold] as Jewish."

I think she actually looks worse with long hair, it emphasizes her dumpiness.

[quote]What would have been true would have been had you written, "when the mother is Jewish, the children automatically have been traditionally identified by others as Jewish."

I forgot to add, "If the person has Jewish mother and the person is religious, they would identify as Jewish". You knew exactly what I meant.

Two cousins are Jewish, their mother is Jewish, a German Jew, their father is Italian Catholic. Both sides of their parents families are not religious, so they never identified as Jewish. On both sides of their family, the grandparents were religious, yet none of their children were.

If someone asks my cousins 'what' they are, they simply say, "We're of German and Italian descent."

Besides, being Jewish is about the religion, not the person's nationality. I never understand when people say, "What am I? I'm Jewish." It makes little sense, as I know Chinese, Italian and African Jews.

Miss Lens requests the honor of your presence at her guessing game.

[quote]I didn't want to tell anyone about the 70-year-old Hollywood luminary who was so angry that I rebuffed his kiss that he made me do 30 takes of the word "hello," or about the Oscar nominee who drove me to the place he lost his virginity while I asked again and again when I could be dropped home. I didn't want anyone to know about the pseudo boyfriend who tied me up with my special-occasion stockings and forced himself inside me anally, or about my father's friend who asked me to lunch but that I not tell my father we were meeting. I shared the story of my college date rape publicly and found the response to be hostile and re-traumatizing. I didn't want people to know which male writers and stars had raged at me.

[R369] Absolutely not true about Obama. If he really wanted to heal the racial divide and not just sew up 99.9% of the African-American vote he could have said, "Look, my father was a black Kenyan and my mother was a white American. I'm half black and half white regardless of what shade I turned out. If anyone's a symbol of bridging a racial divide, it's me." That would have been the honorable and responsible approach. Instead, he pandered to blacks and constantly played the race and victim cards, which worked well for him politically but was very damaging to race relations. For that I loathe him.

R394 Myers is a common German last name. It is Not Jewish, and with Jewish people the only way someone is actually considered to really be Jewish is if they have a mother that's Jewish and religious.

R401 she claims she was "raped" in college, but she made this up for attention. She wishes that all of those old guard Hollywood actors, directors, writers, etc. flirted with her or made a move on her.

Lens is such a toxic asshole I wouldn't put it past her to make up or at least heavily embellish the stories at R401 just so she can be part of what she sees as the #metoo "clique."

R397 I didn't know she did this with the sphynx cats?! She does not even keep them out of the sun as they can burn easily as they are bald. I laughed at her comments about the male gaze. She has taken way too many useless women's studies and gender theory classes taught by old lesbians. 😂

R12 I can’t imagine the smell of that vagina probably needs a good gash wash and airing out.

I hope she takes good care of her pets since she has a lot.

She looks somewhat presentable in R401 photo. Some merciful soul must have air-brushed that shot.

She's such a clueless ass I'm certain it was her own idea to use a "glam" photo to go with her apology article at R401. Everywhere else she's a proud fat schlub, but when she's apologizing for calling an assault victim a liar and revealing her own abuse, it's top priority to look her best!

Lena Dunham is a psychopath. Why has nobody realised this?

That's totally true about being half jewish when the mother is in Hollywood. For instance, if Paltrow's mother Blythe was a Jew she wouldn't have had to sell her soul to the devil. They're already good with that because Jews don't believe in the afterlife and all that garbage. So Goop had to sign away eternity in Heaven for blazing in hell forever.

Sucks.

I just can't believe even one man tried to stick his dick in that pig, never mind the many men she claims. Even perverts have standards.

IRL I married into a family with a Jewish-sounding last name but they’re Catholic. I know families with the names Hoffman, Fine, Schultz, Greenberg, Millstein; none are Jewish.

It’s funny to befuddle the Jewish folk in NYC who assume we are. Yeah, we’re really bad “Jews”. We go to midnight mass on Christmas Eve.

R412 Jews do believe in an afterlife. I once asked a Jewish woman I grew up with and she described Jewish afterlife as being like the link describes and that even Hitler would go there.

R414 Hoffmann or Hoffman is an extremely common name in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland. Contrary to what American Jews believe it is not a common Jewish last name in these countries.

I grew up around many Hoffmans and Hellmans who were all Christian.

When I was younger, I had an acquaintance convert to Orthodox Judaism. It because a huge drama when she revealed she didn't consider a good friend of mine, a reformed Jew from birth, to be really Jewish because only her father was Jewish. Her mother converted to Judaism, but it was through some sort of class her reformed church did rather than the more arduous process someone more orthodox has to do to fully covert. So it's true that the orthodox believe you have to be Jewish through the mother's side.

R418, that’s true. I know an asian woman who converted to marry into an Orthodox family and had to learn to keep kosher and all that. I felt very sorry for her, because the guy wasn’t that great, IMO, and the family was never going to accept her.

Did you ever see Woody Allen's deconstructing harry?

Woody Allen goes down to hell to save his girlfriend who has been stolen by the devil (billy crystal). When he gets there, he sees his father.

He says his father should be allowed to go to Heaven.

"I'm a Jew, we don't believe in Heaven!" his father says.

"Where do you wanna go?" woody allen asks him.

"To a Chinese restaurant!" his father responds.

So what are the details of the story of her faking the college rape. Did she actually name someone and was found out for lying about it?

Correct me if I'm wrong: she named the lone college republican at Oberlin - let's just say it was "Charlie" in her book as her rapist; internet sleuths did the research & identified said "Charlie" only to discover that he said that he barely knew Dunham, much less raped her, and he was being harassed by crazy Dunham fans, so please leave him alone. Duhnam backs off & say's this guy didn't hurt her - and I can't even remember what her excuse was. So if I have the story correctly she keeps claiming she was raped, but the exact circumstances she offers up never make any sense. Is that correct, DL?

Correct R422. She was not raped at all.

[quote]So if I have the story correctly she keeps claiming she was raped, but the exact circumstances she offers up never make any sense.

She made this story up, just like she makes up everything she says.

None of us knows if she was raped in college or if she made it up. I think the descriptors of the rapist were intended to avoid identifying him. The discription included cowboy boots and a mustache. It sounded deliberately cartoonish. She was describing her own experience, not accusing an individual. Internet sleuths made incorrect guesses and then she clarified it wasn't the guy they guessed. She didn't say the event never happened.

[quote]she clarified it wasn't the guy they guessed. She didn't say the event never happened.

It never happened.

She smells like spoiled milk and dust in person, she hates blacks and steals things from people’s apartments if she gets in, a nut and a bad seed.

She's nearly as insufferable as Gwynnie except on the opposite end of the beauty spectrum. But because she's so got damn ugly, people prob prefer Gwynnie.

Regarding Jewish surnames, Hoffman and Myers are definitely Jewish names. Hoffmann with the double "n" is usually an indication of German extraction. It is actually possible for the names to be both Jewish and German. The two are not mutually exclusive. I grew up with a German Jew neighbor.

Does she really smell like sour milk and dust? And she steals? How did she hang onto Jack Antonoff? He’s kind of fug, but is a popular, sought after music person.

R428 maybe in the United States Hoffmann and Myers can be Jewish last names but they certainly are not in Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and Lichtenstein. I have relatives, in laws, and friends in the United States with the last names Myers and Hoffmann, and none of them are Jewish and when I have done their geneaology all of their ancestors were Protestant or Roman Catholic, and some were even once Mennonite.

Lens is also suffering hair loss!

This hot mess has a new man? He must be an actor looking for connections!

Why can't she dress appropriately? Wear clothes which don't expose her mounds of fat? I can't even figure out WTF she's wearing here.

Is it always necessary to show the world her flab and odd body? I know some overweight women, they would never think of wearing too tight clothing and a top which exposes their bellies!

Those poor pants!

She needs to lose some weight, but at least she’s not getting into Chrissy Metz territory yet.

WTF?

[quote]She needs to lose some weight, but at least she’s not getting into Chrissy Metz territory yet.

Chrissy doesn't expose her rolls of flab like Lens does. Lens know she's being annoying, she does all of this on purpose.

As Oscar Wilde said: "There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

R431 does she pull it out or is she going bald like her cats are? I feel bad for this cat they cannot go into sun as they burn easily.

R437 like this woman?

Text of post: Not sure if that's a thing, but my boyfriend and I have been having some issues regarding intimacy, whenever we try doggystyle it doesn't exactly "work", like his dick slips out after every couple strokes and it's really frustrating. We can't get in a steady rhythm because of it and we just have a difficult time. I am a bigger gal, and he's made some comments suggesting that may be why we're having difficulties with doggystyle. Stuff like my butt is too big for it to reach to hit it from behind, I'm too chubby and have too much flab, the flab bounces around and pushes his dick out, my fat jiggles too much, etc. Those comments hurt me and I'm not sure if he's right or not considering I've had a few partners before him, of which I've never had the same issues with. He also has made some comments about me having multiple partners prior to him and that made me feel insecure. Doggystyle had always been my favorite position, and it's pretty frustrating not being able to enjoy it. He's really slim/athletic so I worry it must be my weight, what should I do? What do you think is the reason? Is it common for doggystyle to be more difficult for curvy/chubby women? Am I too fat? His comments make me pretty insecure about my my body/appearance, what's your honest opinion of it? Am I too fat? How would you describe my bodytype as? Here's a couple pics of myself and a video of me walking and strutting my stuff haha (Please excuse my cringey attempt at modelling xD) Thanks!

[R38] Bravo! Missed you the first time around. Very smart, insightful, astute and forward-thinking.

[R194] I have been laughing hysterically at your posting and at Mr. 195's posting that Lena Dunham's problem is that she has been repeatedly "self-molested" - leading to PTSD. Can one molest one's self? I suppose legally anything is possible.

[R439] At least yours is a problem I can work with. First item, darling - deep breath. Let's get a drink and we'll go from there....

R430, I said Hofmann with a double "n" is usually indicative of German extraction and Hoffman with a single "n" is usually Jewish. It is possible that a person can be Jewish and German!

Posters [R357] and [R427] made my night. I laughed out loud. Thanks!

I'm not surprised she's been able to find another boyfriend. I've seen plenty of women less attractive and larger attract plenty of male partners, without Dunham's wealth or connections. Hetero men go for a variety of body types, and many of them are just desperate to get laid.

Carroll Dunham's art is absolutely atrocious, he has zero talent. And it's also kind of disturbing. I'm perplexed as to how such a creepy no-talent got so far in the NY art world.

R446 the art, music, and film world, both in NYC and L. A. and elsewhere, is not based on talent or originality, but on who you know, and whose palms you can grease with lots of money to promote your boring art, film, TV show, song, etc.

R446 well he certainly is as obsessed with women's labia and vaginas as his daughters both are. I am not surprised Lena's sister Grace is also batshit crazy and is now 'non-binary' for her gender/sex.

Are those trucknuts attached to that painting?

One of the best reviews of Lens: "Lena Dunham peddles sewer water and people are drinking it."

begged by co workers to wash her cunt, she refused.... her snatch was rumored to be filled with maggots and refuse.

His art is truly truly awful. Not just the subject matter, but the execution. Was he using felt pens in one picture to fill in the gaps? It's just awful awful shit.

R452 yeah his art sucks it is no wonder why Lena sexually abused her sister Grace who is also severely mentally ill.

R450 you can say that about the entire cast of Girls including Zoshia Mamet and her husband Evan Jonigkeit.

If Lena was a man and admitted in adulthood to sexually molesting her infant sister as a child, would she go to prison for it?

"I am not surprised Lena's sister Grace is also batshit crazy and is now 'non-binary' for her gender/sex."

Who wouldn't flee womanhood after seeing the portrayal of it at R448? Grace probably feels the need to use the phrase "front hole" because her father clearly does not even know where a vadge is located.

R28 it was my understanding that her faux pas was defending someone she knew was a rapist and trying to discredit his victim. Not lying about being raped herself? Have I missed something?

R454, I don't think so due to the statute of limitations on this type of crime in the US.

R456 Those are two separate incidents. Both happened.

[quote]begged by co workers to wash her cunt, she refused.... her snatch was rumored to be filled with maggots and refuse.

And don't forget...there were some pebbles in there too!

Her sister put the pebbles in, not Lena. It's a weird story to share. It's really more of her sister's story than hers. I don't think I'd like it if my sibling wrote about weird stuff I'd done as a toddler.

MY EYES!

I thought she was all super-happy-fat, why is she exercising?