The Slipper and the Rose is on TCM right now and it got me thinking I don't know much about Chamberlain and I haven't really seen him discussed here on the DL before. I looked him up and discovered he was in a relationship with the dude who played the brother on Land of the Lost in the 70s??? And after that he's been with the same dude since 1977. But how popular was he? And did everybody know he was a gay?
Please Tell Me About Richard Chamberlain, Dear DL
by Anonymous | reply 100 | November 27, 2018 3:18 PM |
Ultimate Ken Doll. The Zac Efron of his day.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 24, 2018 3:52 AM |
My grandma told me he's an alcoholic and confirmed bachelor.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 24, 2018 3:57 AM |
He flaunted his HOT body when he was the King of the mini-series in the 80s
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 24, 2018 3:58 AM |
As a singer, four good notes, if that.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 24, 2018 4:00 AM |
He was very popular back when he was Dr. Kildare and, of course, no one in the general public knew about his sexuality.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 24, 2018 4:01 AM |
Barbara Stanwyck makes a pass at Richard in the Thorn Birds, and this was the only time she flubbed her lines.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 24, 2018 4:03 AM |
Likes to play bridge. Didn't go out much. Happy for many (40) years with Martin Rabbett.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 24, 2018 4:09 AM |
He was a heartthrob back when he was Dr. Kildare. In those days, he went on "dates" with starlets like Yvette Mimieux. He seemed to disappear after that, although he got occasional film roles in supporting parts and then suddenly in the 80s, he started making mini-series with Thorn Birds, where he played the love interest of Barbra Stanwyck who was a million years old by that point. I'm guessing he bought property or otherwise managed his money well, because really he was only a big tv star for a few years and then did all that schlocky miniseries stuff for the money.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 24, 2018 4:12 AM |
amberlain took up with handsome actor-writer-producer Martin Rabbett, who became his partner for almost A young Sharon Stone...along with Dick and Marty... Chamberlain had legally adopted Rabbett to protect his assets. In the spring of 2010 Chamberlain moved from Maui to Los Angeles because of work possibilities, leaving Rabbett behind at their luxury home in Hawaii (listed for sale in mid-2010 for $19 million). Later that year, responding to gossip about a split, Chamberlain said in an interview with Advocate, “Well, we haven’t really split. In other words, we’re still very, very close. The essence of our relationship has remained the same; we just don’t happen to be living together. I went home for Thanksgiving and had the most wonderful time, and we’ll be spending Christmas together with friends in New York. So we’re not split, really. I just moved to L.A. because I wanted to work more. Martin, unfortunately, doesn’t like L.A. at all, but he’s thinking of moving to San Francisco.”
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 24, 2018 4:17 AM |
In the 70s, a female friend met he and his boyfriend at a party. She said his boyfriend was even more beautiful than Chamberlain, he had blue eyes with dark curly hair. At the time, women viewed straight-acting gay men as a possibility. She wildly flirted with the bf but didn't get anywhere.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 24, 2018 4:27 AM |
Can confirm the bridge playing. I dated a guy who used to go up to their house to play. #boring
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 24, 2018 4:28 AM |
Damn, Martin Rabbett was cute af. And 20 years younger.
To think of the gallons of cum they dumped in and on each other over 33 years.
But 76-year-old Richard left in 2010 because he thought he still had an acting career to pursue in LA. Martin just wanted to live quietly in Hawaii together.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 24, 2018 4:36 AM |
Richard at his clit-hardening career peak as Dr. Kildare:
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 24, 2018 4:38 AM |
The Music Lovers
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 24, 2018 5:54 AM |
I watched Dr. Kildare when I was a kid. Had no idea Richard Chamberlain was gay.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 24, 2018 10:02 AM |
He was like me, only he didn't have the urge to give away parts of foreign nations.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 24, 2018 10:03 AM |
My nana was mad about him.
He was also criminally wasted on NIP/TUCK.
Loved in PETULIA.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 24, 2018 11:12 AM |
If you had to chose between Dr. Kildare, Ben Casey or Mr. Novak who would it be?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 24, 2018 11:35 AM |
He starred in a production of Hamlet on NBC in the early '70s, maybe as early as '69. It seems like it was from a Broadway production he starred in. He had a fairly steady film career between Dr. Kildare and that. I think he mainly did theater in the '70s and mostly in Europe.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 24, 2018 11:42 AM |
He played gay on Brothers and Sisters as (inexplicably) Ron Rifkin's aged bf.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 24, 2018 11:48 AM |
Very pretty. Never found him especially interesting. That's all I have to say.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 24, 2018 12:08 PM |
Bless him.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 24, 2018 12:12 PM |
I have the Thornbirds box set with a "special extras" DVD included. He described the experience and tears up, especially that part where he ordains his OWN SON as a priest. Oh and that they were freezing and had to retake the "passionate beach love" over and over bc it was not believable. Rachel Ward took one look at Bryan Brown and they ran off into the sunset together.
I wouldn't say that RC was Barbara Stanwyck's love interest....
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 24, 2018 12:24 PM |
Chamberlain did dinner theater in the 70s---mostly light comedy and musicals. Never much range in his film or tv work, but likeable and not awful or hammy. Probably a good utility player to fill out a cast--pretty and reasonably competent.
Ben Casey went for more realism than Dr. Kildare---Casey was a neurosurgeon whereas Kildare treated everything imaginable. Casey lost patients, Kildare never did. Casey fit the stereotype health care folks have of a surgeon, whereas Kildare was the doc everyone wished they had. Casey was filmed in a way that exploited the b&W photography to convey the atmosphere of a busy metropolitan hospital and the theme music also did this. Kildare was soft focus and muzak by comparison. Both shows were essentially anthologies focused on the guest star(s) ailment of the week, with plenty of melodrama.
Stanwyck's character was hot for her spiritual guide and her power as a patron is central to the story. Like a Johnny Mathis tune, it was the unattainable younger fantasy guy for women of a certain age.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 24, 2018 12:30 PM |
Didn't he play Edward in a made for tv Wallis Simpson/Edward "The Woman I Love" type lifetime movie?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 24, 2018 12:34 PM |
Chamberlain did dinner theater in the 70s --light comedy and musicals. he never had great range as ana actor, but also wasn't hammy or simply awful. Probably a good utility player to round out a cast---attractive, reasonably competent if a bit wooden.
Casey attempted to be more realistic than Kildare. Casey fit the stereotype health providers have of surgeons--surly and arrogant. Kildare was the fantasy of what people would like in a doc. Casey was a neuroseurgeon and although he strayed abit from that scope pf practice, he didn't treat everything under the sun like Kildare and occasionally lost a patient, which never happened to Kildare. Ben Casey was shot in a way that exploited the use of b&W to convey a busy metropolitan hospital (LA County Hospital was the model) and the theme song also did this---Kildare was soft focus and muzak by comparison. Both essentialy were anthologies with episodes built around each week's guest star(s)' ailments, with plenty of melodrama.
Stanwyck has more than spirutual interest in Chamberlain and its an essential part of the "priest as unattainable" love interest aspect of the soap opera. he's basically the visual version of a Johnny Mathis song for women of a certain age.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 24, 2018 12:38 PM |
God, The Thorn Birds was ultimate camp, unintentionally. A pedo, Catholic priest, father’s a child with a young woman he’s been lusting over since she was a small child. Gross.
Rachel Ward was fucking GORGEOUS. She had one of the best bodies I’ve ever seen in a woman, & you know I’m being sincere because straight chicks and gay dudes are straight up about this kinda thing.
RC had been sober, in AA, for years. He had a reputation for being an entitled prick. A dry drunk, as they say.
He disappeared from the AA scene many, many years ago. I assume he’s drinking moderately, or swigging like a champ.
He was also gorgeous when young, btw. I wasn’t alive back then, but JFC, look at those photos posted above. Gorgeous.
My fave:
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 24, 2018 12:40 PM |
I remember when the miniseries Shogun was the must-see-tv big event. It was the first time that I ever heard of Richard Chamberlain.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 24, 2018 12:40 PM |
Richard Chamberlain made a big split from Hollywood at the height of his TV fame in the 1960s and headed for London. The official story at the time was that he wanted to study the classics and hone his craft as an actor. He was able to squeeze a television production of Hamlet out of it.
One look at Martin Rabbett makes it clear that Richard Chamberlain likes them young. There has always been whispering that Chamberlain had a boy related scandal about to blow up and that's why he beat it out of the country at the absolute height of his fame.
Angela Lansbury did much the same thing a few years later when her Charles Manson scandal was about to blow up in her face. It's not good for business, but sometimes it is necessary.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 24, 2018 1:01 PM |
Chamberlain has done Shakespeare on the stage.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 24, 2018 1:03 PM |
Notorious pussy hound, banged hundreds of women. Pretended to be gay as a publicity stunt.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 24, 2018 1:38 PM |
Back in the late 1970s there was a very long miniseries called Centennial, which followed a community in the Rockies over a period of 250+ years. I saw it about 15 years ago when it was on DVD.
Chamberlain was in the early episodes (as a Scottish trapper), and he was pretty good in it.
The cast was also like a DL's who's who.
In addition to Chamberlain, there was Robert Conrad, Gregory Harrison, Mark Harmon and Timothy Dalton.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 24, 2018 1:51 PM |
Dr. Kildare was handsome, very handsome. But Ben Casey made me shiver. Omg.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 24, 2018 2:08 PM |
r16Mr Novak for sure was the best. Chamberlain was too femme and Vince Edwards makes Alec Baldwin look smooth in comparison.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 24, 2018 2:12 PM |
Hair raising!!!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | November 24, 2018 2:24 PM |
The bigger mystery to me is why Vince Edwards was never able to parlay his Ben Casey fame into a film career. Or even another hit TV series. He was really sensational looking and so different from most of the vanilla-flavored TV leading men of the early 1960s.
He also had a great singing voice. Check him out on youtube.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 24, 2018 2:24 PM |
Edwards was difficult on the set. He didn't like to reherse or do retakes. He didn't have great range either, although he was more interesting than Chamberlain who had come from a more privieleged background and had less life experience on which to draw. Edwards famously liked to knock off early and head to the track--it wasn't just a hobby either.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | November 24, 2018 2:33 PM |
R11 I have heard about the boyfriend. An actor, said to be crushed really bad when Chamberlain left him. You could have seen him every Saturday on a Sci Fi show, using his first name. Still does the convention circuit fir it.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 24, 2018 2:38 PM |
R28 people didn't care about how pedo-y the Thornbirds was. Everyone ate that shit up.
How old are they when they meet? She's ten and he's 26? So when they get down to making babies she is 20 & hes 36? I mean, didn't the same thing happen in Legends of the Fall?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | November 24, 2018 3:22 PM |
Yes, it’s pure romance novel fodder in the guise of a GWTW-style saga.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | November 24, 2018 4:44 PM |
R40, she’s anywhere from 5 to seven, when she meets Father Ralph.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | November 24, 2018 4:59 PM |
R16, There are clips from Dr. Kildare episodes on YT.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | November 24, 2018 5:17 PM |
R30, Charles Manson scandal?
by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 24, 2018 5:21 PM |
Supposed to be a very nice guy. I love that version of Cinderella too. The costumes and color palette are stunning.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | November 24, 2018 5:38 PM |
It's funny, but there were some actors who have come out with little surprise from the public, but at the time there may not have been much speculation about them from the general public in the late 70s. Richard Chamberlain was one of those actors. I can remember in high school, hearing the story of Rock Hudson marrying Jim Nabors (I'm 55) but nothing much further than that until it was revealed he was HIV+, when he was on "Dynasty." I don't remember anything about Richard Chamberlain, whom I remember from "Shogun" and "The Thorn Birds." McCullough's novel was a big bestseller, which I can recall my parents, their friends, and others reading. I loved it. It was no doubt the latent gay in me in 1977 that had me crying my eyes out, when Dane drowns in the novel. The miniseries was riveting. There was a big deal made about Rachel Ward, and her later romance and marriage to Bryan Brown was well-covered in the press. Also well covered was Chamberlain stripping down in front of Barbara Stanwyck. It may have been a first for network TV. But there wasn't anything that hinted at Chamberlain's sexuality. No doubt reporters knew, but they did not cover it in mainstream entertainment publications, like "People," let alone major newspapers.
The conservative turn of the Reagan years changed the dynamic. We were demonized. Instead of eliciting sympathy and a call to arms for help, the advent of the Aids crisis confirmed our "sinfulness" to many straights. Speculation about the sexuality of actors or other public persons increased out of prurient and malicious intent. I don't know if I'm right. Just a thought.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | November 24, 2018 5:57 PM |
Supposedly, on the set of "Joy in the Morning," Yvette Mimieux, who had become friendly with Richard on her two guest appearances on "Dr Kildare," found out that Richard was gay and went around making disparaging comments about his manhood. This created a lot of on-set tension, which leaked out to the gossip columns, printed without naming names. Richard was a "nice guy" who lived quietly and didn't have scandalous sexcapades like Sal Mineo or Anthony Perkins, so the press spared him the "shame" of an exposé.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 24, 2018 5:58 PM |
Dick Chamberlain, as he identified himself, used to post here (& I once had a conversation with him). Maybe still does, anonymously.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 24, 2018 6:03 PM |
One of the roles I liked him best in was as F. Scott Fitzgerald in "The Last of the Belles" tv movie. He's convincing as the author straddling a fun-time public persona he has to keep up to survive while dealing with a chaotic personal world. With Blythe Danner and Susan Sarandon:
by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 24, 2018 6:16 PM |
If you only became aware of Chamberlain during his Shogun and Thorn Bird fame, you have no idea how outrageously popular he was in the early 1960s as Dr. Kildare. Every bit as popular with young girls as The Beatles who would arrive a few years later.
All the girls in my 7th grade class wore Dr. Kildare blouses to school every day. I wanted one so badly!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | November 24, 2018 6:29 PM |
R44, in the late 60s, Angela was living in LA and her kids got involved with drugs. Then they started running in circles that were Manson adjacent. Angela and her husband moved the whole family to rural Ireland to get their kids out of danger and to deal with their addiction.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | November 24, 2018 6:31 PM |
He had Gayface before such a word even existed.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | November 24, 2018 7:06 PM |
R50, In 1964, a then 12 year old childhood friend mailed a Richard Chamberlain photo request in care of NBC. They mailed him back a color poster of Chamberlain in Kildare scrubs, which my friend taped to his bedroom wall. His parents were so concerned that their only son might be gay, they placed him in therapy. Fast forward a few years, we became fuck buddies for a few years.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | November 24, 2018 8:13 PM |
R53, your friend had excellent taste. Surely, this speaks to you, as well.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | November 24, 2018 8:28 PM |
R45 - yeah The Slipper and the Rose was a stunning looking movie, but it moved at a snail's pace and the songs were a bore.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | November 24, 2018 8:55 PM |
I thought it had a few catchy tunes.i alwayscwonered what happened to the actress who played Cinderella. A one hit actress?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | November 24, 2018 10:13 PM |
Shit...”I always wondered”. Damn iPhone.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | November 24, 2018 10:13 PM |
I remember when the Thornbirds came out and there were rumors that he was gay at that time
by Anonymous | reply 58 | November 24, 2018 10:58 PM |
Saw him do Shakespeare's Richard II in Washington, DC, sometime in the 1970s. He was very good in the role. And enormously popular at the time--the audience was thrilled to be in the presence of such a celebrity.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | November 24, 2018 11:04 PM |
r9, he wasn't the love interest of Barbara Stanwyck, he played a priest. But he had a love affair with her niece or grandaughter Meggie, played by Rachel Ward.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | November 24, 2018 11:06 PM |
I was about 13 when THE THORN BIRDS came on tv, and that scene with naked Richard Chamberlain!! It made me tingly all over.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | November 24, 2018 11:11 PM |
[QUOTE] Angela and her husband moved the whole family to rural Ireland to get their kids out of danger and to deal with their addiction.
R51, it was Lansbury's lifelong gay friend Hurd Hatfield [Dorian Gray] who suggested the move to Ireland. He had been living there for some years.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | November 25, 2018 1:58 AM |
I saw Chamberlain at the Pasadena Playhouse a few years ago in "The Heiress," with Julia Duffy and Heather Tom.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | November 25, 2018 2:11 AM |
What? No love for his villain in The Towering Inferno? How about his Aramis in the Three/Four Musketeers?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | November 25, 2018 2:56 AM |
[quote]I thought it had a few catchy tunes.i alwayscwonered what happened to the actress who played Cinderella. A one hit actress?
No, her name was Genna Craven and she had a fairly successful stage, TV and film career centered in London. Off the top of my head, she starred in the original Pennies From Heaven miniseries with Bob Hoskins, a charming BBC TV version of She Loves Me, hit revivals of South Pacific and Private Lives, that Wagner film with Richard Burton, etc., etc., etc. She had been a near complete unknown before Slipper and stayed busy until fairly recently.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | November 25, 2018 10:23 AM |
^ Sorry, Gemma Craven, not Genna. Typo.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | November 25, 2018 10:30 AM |
He starred as Henry Higgins in an early 1980s Broadway revival of MFL.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 25, 2018 10:36 AM |
^ That was a national tour that played a stop on Broadway. In the late 1990s he played Captain von Trapp in a SOM tour that ended up on Broadway and ran for a year or two.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | November 25, 2018 10:48 AM |
I was slightly off above at r68. That SOM opened on Broadway in 1998 as the first Broadway revival. It ran for almost a year and a half, during which time Chamberlain replaced the original Captain and then took the show on a long tour after it closed in New York.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | November 25, 2018 11:20 AM |
"Road company" pretty much sums up Chamberlain as an actor. A pleasant presence, no geat depth but he won't embarrass himself or anyone else.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | November 25, 2018 1:38 PM |
Didn't he recently play the priest (originally played by Max von Sydow) in some awful new stage version of The Exorcist in a little theater in LA? I think the bad reviews kept it from going any further.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 25, 2018 2:23 PM |
He has had an extensive and varied career on television, film, and stage.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | November 25, 2018 2:53 PM |
I loved his Aramis.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | November 25, 2018 3:19 PM |
Loved Shogun. and The Thornbirds and Dr Kildare . Handsome guy !
by Anonymous | reply 74 | November 25, 2018 4:42 PM |
I worked on a play with Richard in the early 1980s. He was handsome, very polite and professional but kind of a cypher. On stage and off.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | November 25, 2018 7:55 PM |
Dick wasn't really a great actor, was he. But he had a lot of fans.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | November 25, 2018 8:59 PM |
"The Last Wave"
by Anonymous | reply 78 | November 25, 2018 10:21 PM |
Richard Chamberlain and Robert Redford getting physical.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | November 25, 2018 10:26 PM |
Oops! Wrong thread!
by Anonymous | reply 81 | November 26, 2018 1:10 AM |
It's impossible to think of Dr. Kildare without thinking of Ben Casey. It's like thinking of Bewitched without I Dream Of Jeannie or The Addams Family without the Munsters.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | November 26, 2018 1:24 AM |
Or The Partridge Family without The Brady Bunch.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | November 26, 2018 1:32 AM |
Vince Edwards, aka Dr. Ben Casey, got his start in LA as a nude physique model. The photo below is well documented, not shopped.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | November 26, 2018 1:36 AM |
He once gave my husband a rudely religious glare.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | November 26, 2018 1:51 AM |
Vince or Dick?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | November 26, 2018 1:57 AM |
Vince had been a collegiate swimmer who later took up body building.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | November 26, 2018 3:17 AM |
Wow, didn't know Ben Casey did "physique" magazines!
by Anonymous | reply 89 | November 26, 2018 3:25 AM |
Chamberlain didn't come out until his career was just about over. He remained closeted for most of the AIDS epidemic years.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | November 26, 2018 4:06 AM |
Did Vince Edwards really go to college? He seemed of more working class roots.
Early in his career his hair was bleached platinum blonde and he played a Mr. Universe type in a cheap wrestling movie that showed off his physique.
There are some clips of him singing on Hollywood Palace and a clip of him on What's My Line? talking about his night club appearances as a singer. Must find them! I think his voice was surprisingly good.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | November 26, 2018 1:06 PM |
RC had a slammin' body when he was younger
by Anonymous | reply 92 | November 26, 2018 3:42 PM |
R91: Edwards went to college on a scholarship--Ohio State and somewhere else. Working class roots aren't a barrier to that, btw. I have them as well as a PhD. WEe don't all become bourgeois poseurs in the process.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | November 26, 2018 4:38 PM |
Yvette Mimieux sounds like a cunt
by Anonymous | reply 94 | November 27, 2018 3:02 AM |
A friend told me she used to walk an ocelot on a leash in Hollywood. He had to go on a boat ride with her and the ocelot. Freaked him out. Also, she did Dr. Kildare -- an episode called "Tiger Tiger."
by Anonymous | reply 95 | November 27, 2018 3:14 AM |
She bearded him on a couple dates/photo ops. I'm guessing the ocelot on a boat thing was one of them. She was a 60s starlet who wound up making bad tv movies. But she married well.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | November 27, 2018 3:45 AM |
I saw him in Night of the Iguana in the 70s and he was good.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | November 27, 2018 4:32 AM |
There was Richard and there was Vince Edwards...
by Anonymous | reply 98 | November 27, 2018 4:34 AM |
And you know what Darwin Porter wrote about their 3way with Brando...
by Anonymous | reply 99 | November 27, 2018 8:26 AM |
Well, if Darwin Porter wrote it then it most certainly didn't happen
by Anonymous | reply 100 | November 27, 2018 3:18 PM |