What Canadian city would be your version of Hell-On-Earth?

Edmonton-frozen, backward shithole with nothing to do.

St. Jean-sur Richelieu

Probably somewhere in the Yukon or NWT- a loaf of bread probably costs about $10.

Québec City, Québec. A pretty enough place, but many vile shop owners, restaurateurs, etc., who are openly contemptuous of USA residents and delight in pretending to not speak English in their presence. I have been on five continents and have never experienced this kind of behavior anywhere else. The rest of Canada is wonderful.

Goose Bay. Expensive food, staples. One Lemon is $5.00. Laundry detergent is nearly $30. Food is trucked in from Quebec and a lot of the produce is rotted by the time it gets to Goose Bay. Very depressing place.

Winnipeg. Cold. Flies. Cold. Flies.

Burton Cummings in his sunset years cannot compensate for cold and flies, and neither can Guy Maddin.

Vancouver. Gloomy place with all the rain.

Muskoka

Est-ce que Saint-Louis-du-Ha!Ha! la ville le plus joyeux au Canada?

Is Saint-Louis-du-Ha!Ha! the happiest place in Canada?

(I have to post in French first anything pertaining to QC, or else the Language Police will burn my house down, and Canadian winters can be co-o-o-ld.

Any city that gets a shitload of snow and is cold as fuck

To add to R7 - Vancouver also has miserable traffic, unaffordable housing and is overdue for a huge earthquake.

Whitehorse, the capital of the Yukon Territory.

This literally is it.

Iqaluit, Nunavut

Flin Flon. Sounds too much like Flim Flam.

I had occasion to travel the length of Canada by car from Halifax to Victoria on three occasions and the only place that turned me off was Sudbury, Ontario. I decided to stop in a place called Blind River as an alternative and I must say it was a vast improvement. As for Winnipeg, the place of my birth, I recall my mother lamenting that she had to endure months of frigid temps and then contend with the swarms of mosquitoes during the warm weather. During my cross country trek I stayed at a motel in Portage La Prairie just west of W. and I was entertained by the antics of the ground squirrels on the grounds (they're called gophers by the locals). The next day I drove through the Saskatchewan alkaline flats where I saw flocks of white pelicans flying overhead : much to my delight.

The one where are the Chinese are moving to and spitting on the sidewalk

Oshawa, Ontario hands down.

A little white trash burg in the Greater Toronto Area that has been in a perpetual slump preciptated by layoffs at the GM plant.

Whitehorse and Iqaluit are cheating. They're located in the remote north. Oshawa has no excuse for being as shit as it is.

Regina, Saskatchewan: boring little city, except for the huge meth problem.

Anywhere in Alberta or Quebec. End to end shitholes.

Toronto. Lived there and I escaped early on.

Partner's family is from Scarborough - ugh, what a shithole.

R21 wins this thread.

I’ve not been there but it would seem St. John’s, Newfoundland would be hard to take do to its isolation.

Ic would think any city in Canada, save parts of Montreal and Toronto would do the trick.

R13, only in the summer when the bugs are berserk.

Like I mentioned in US twin thread.

Labrador Fucking City!

Ottawa. A giant government office complex in the middle of cow pastures. So cold in the winter it hurts to breath. Full of uppity French.

Rimouski. Trashy people think highly of themselves. Think nothing of pushing you around. In late spring nothing but cow shit 2 hours north and 3 hours south on highway.

R27😂 both posted about cow pastures simultaneously. ♡

Ottawa - "Ennui on the Rideau"

Every Canadian city is a paradise compared to Trumps America.

Communist Party of China; North America Division - Richmond, BC

I discussed this topic with my husband. He boggled at the variety of answers. He figured Windsor, Yellowknife, Iqaluit and Whitehorse would be top answers.

I said to him, "this is among the many things that differentiate you and me -- as an American, your idea of a hell-hole is a city where there's a 30-40% chance of getting knifed or shot at walking six blocks to run errands. A Canadian's idea of a hell-hole is a city where there's a 50-80% chance of getting bug bites or frostbite walking six blocks to run errands."

Saskatoon - meth capital of Canada

Historic Unforgettable Vancouver Downtown Eastside!

Cheery town of Sydney, Nova Scotia.

What's wrong with Windsor?

Hamilton Ontari-ari-air- OOOOOO. If it wasn't for the university, that city would've been flushed a long time ago.

Any cold, shitty, uncultured redneck town will do. Flyover country is probably not much different from the US.

Sudbury!

Hey, r33, I think r34 has something you and your husband can agree on.

Saskatoon has a pretty river and quaint downtown. Extremely friendly people.

Hamilton has waterfalls, cliff hiking, and the escarpments. I thought it was pretty as well.

Winnipeg has significant amount of “high@ culture for a mid sized city. Wonderful art gallery, ballet, symphony and theatre centre (Keanu Reeves made his Shakespearian debut there).

Ottawa is bland but harmless.

Agree about Oshawa - my cousins moved there from Moncton. It wasn’t an improvement.

I actually like Winnipeg. I love Charlottetown. Spent 2 years of my childhood in Montréal so I have fond memories, but the winters really suck.

Hated Thunder Bay. It felt colder than Montréal.

R35 six blocks from there condos are selling for $1000 per square foot.

It depends what your definition is of hell-on-earth.

I've been reading how some US schools now have drills that instruct kids on what to do if a gunman starts shooting.

If that's how you get to start off your formative years, constantly on red alert for a crazed gunman, I don't think many Canadian cities should really be called Hell-On-Earth.

I heard an interesting interview a few weeks ago. I think I might have posted it here. Anyway, one political commentator was alluding to this generation of U.S. schoolchildren being the first generation of kids to be living in a time of School Massacres. The school massacre generation I think he termed it.

R42 Your mention of Keanu Reeves playing Hamlet in Winnipeg reminds me that the critics gave him positive reviews. I'd also add that the Manitoba Legislature in Winnipeg is one of the most fascinating and impressive public buildings in North America and is full of interesting masonic symbolism.

At the height of its building boom in the early 1900s, Winnipeg was the third largest city in Canada and projected to rival Chicago as one of the great North American cities. Then the Panama Canal was built, there was a general strike, and WW I happened.

r37 For me, nothing. Windsor has a great university radio station CJAM. My husband, an American, thinks Windsor' s problem is that it's close to Detroit, Michigan.

I hasten to add that my US husband hails from one of the top three murder capitals in America. So any Canadian city with more than eight hours of daylight 11 months of the year to him is spiffy.

R49 nothing wrong with Windsor. You can be in downtown Detroit in no time at all, and then back again in a jiffy to get those bullet wounds fixed for free.

R50- I think some Canadian cities are starting to catch up to US murder rates- Toronto just hit 89 murders [about 46 were from guns]. Granted Toronto's population is 2.7 million, but that's the highest it's been since the 1990s.

R27, agree but since you're black your nose can't heat up the air before it reaches your lungs. Breathing is painful. If only we didn't have to smell the cow shit as well ♡

Canada was and is superior to the US

All of them

Oompah. Admittedly a small rural town, not a city. I spent some time there. Beautiful country, but literally nothing to do at night but drink. I remember a very young kid, too young to legally drive, showing up at the local bar behind the wheel of a pickup truck. Mom had sent him to haul drunken Dad home. None of the locals thought anything of this.

The part that's basically North Dakota...Alberta? No thanks

Is Edmotnton really that bad? I see more and more gays moving there. Surely it can't be that bad?

Rowsdower!

R2, are you a young cadet or a military recrute ?

I know people from that city. They say there is a military base there where soldiers from all over Canada to get basic training. Usually this experience (being yelled at by drill instructors) and the discovery of the town is linked together in their mind and as a result they, dislike the city.

Some are young and just left their home for the first time and take offense at being in a place where they speak another language for the first time in their life. Some manage to get a girlfriend and don't hate it as much.

Not a big city, but hardly hell on earth.

Fort McMurray. Literally.

R48 You're right. Winnipeg also adopted the Chicago School model for its "skyscrapers" . One surviving example is The Paris Building (1915/1917) in the attached photo. Another notable example was The Childs Building built 1909 demolished 1988.

The one where all the men have stank sleeves.

Windsor - a suburb of Detroit.

All of them.

r58, they don't call it Deadmanton for nothing.

Cranbrook BC, for spawning crazy racist fraus like this.

r58, Edmonton has actually seen a sharp decrease in hate crimes. Per StatCan...

[quote] [...] decreases from 2015 to 2016 were reported in the Kitchener–Cambridge–Waterloo (-32), Edmonton (-31) and Thunder Bay (-17) CMAs. [quote] [quote] In the Kitchener–Cambridge–Waterloo CMA, the overall decrease was largely due to decreases in crimes motivated by hatred of a race or ethnicity (-12), Muslims (-4), and Catholics (-4). In Edmonton, the change was due to a decrease in crimes targeting Muslims (-5), Jews (-4), and Arabs and West Asians (-3). In the Thunder Bay CMA, decreases in hate crimes targeting Aboriginal (-7) and Jewish (-4) populations account for much of the general trend. [quote] [quote] Taking into account the population of each CMA, the CMAs where hate crimes were the most prevalent were Hamilton (12.5 hate crimes per 100,000 population), Ottawa (9.5 hate crimes per 100,000 population), and Thunder Bay (8.3 hate crimes per 100,000 population) (Chart 6, Table 4).

If you're gay and ethnic, perhaps avoid BC and Quebec

[quote] The census metropolitan areas (CMAs) with the largest increases in hate crimes from 2015 to 2016 were Vancouver (+30), Québec (+29) and Montréal (+25) (see Text box 5). In Montréal, the change observed in 2016 follows the upward trend from 2014 to 2015, when the number of hate crimes rose by 39. This increase was mainly due to more hate crime targeting Muslims in 2015 than 2014 (+20). [quote] [quote] For Vancouver, this change is due to an increase in the number of crimes motivated by hatred of East or Southeast Asians (+18) and gays and lesbians (+10). In Québec, the change is mainly due to an increase in crimes targeting Arabs and West Asians (+10). In Montréal, the change from 2015 to 2016 is attributable to an increase in crimes targeting gay and lesbian (+12) and Black (+11) and Jewish (+11) populations.

The link I posted is to the StatCan report which I encourage you to read as it goes into some more detail on hate crimes based on sexuality with links to even more statistics.

Calgary. It's got that weird mix of oil money and farming/ranching. It always seems like it's trying to be a little slice of Texas, and trying a little too hard.

No, r58. Edmonton has a lot to do, no matter what you enjoy. It’s safe. It’s a great place to live but not a great place to visit.

Most of the larger Canadian cities are interesting and relatively diverse. Smaller cities are different.

Canadian cities strike me as alternative reality universe U.S. cities with all the life and vitality drained out of them.

And the shithole-ization of Oshawa continues with the full closure of the GM plant

Which Canadian city for a Hell on Earth? Wherever Rogaine Ogre .and JY, the hairy-bollocked child-botherer, lurk.

Definitely Regina.

Manitoba, Winnipeg.

Looks like Western Canada has been confirmed a shithole once again this year (most dangerous cities in Canada 2018)

1. North Battleford, Saskatchewan 2. Thompson, Manitoba 3. Prince Albert, Saskatchewan 4. Williams Lake, British Columbia 5. Red Deer, Alberta 6. Langley, British Columbia 7. Portage la Prairie, Manitoba 8. Wetaskiwin, Alberta 9. Vernon, British Columbia 10. Selkirk, Manitoba

It's quite a large region R76.....plenty of places not on that list.

R1 We're not as bad as Calgary!

Timmons, Ontario. It's WAY up in Northern Ontario and is frigid cold with much isolation and little to do.

Shania Twain was raised there - she's lucky she escaped.

I live in Windsor, Ontario and it's a very nice smallish city, about 210,000 people. Close to the American border and only 400 miles from Toronto, Canada' biggest city. People are pleasant and friendly here.

The crime rate has gone up in the last year but then again this is happening just about everywhere.

[QUOTE]Timmons

Oh Dear!

[quote]and only 400 miles from Toronto,

There's your problem right there.

The further from Toronto, the better.

R82 Nope, that' s great. I love going to the big city but leave my car at home and travel by train or bus. Toronto is great to visit - like going to the land of Oz - but I wouldn't want to live there.

Oshawa is already pretty bad. I can't imagine how much worse once the GM plant shuts down.

Nobody ever talks about it, but interior BC seems like a cesspool. Beautiful country, but likely filled with Canadian deplorables.

R84 Needs a map for all the fun things to do when he's near TORONTO.

[bold]Toronto: The New World Capitol For Homos, Draft Dodgers And Degenerates[/bold]

R86 it really depends on where you are. Some towns (e.g Vernon) are crime-infested shit holes, while others (e.g. Nelson) are filled with pot-smoking hippies.

Windsor Ontario, across the river from Detroit. It is an ugly city with nothing redeeming about it. If you drive outside the city it is rural and flat in about ten minutes, and it is unrelently boring and empty. At least in Quebec it's pretty. Winnepeg has scenery too. Maybe somewhere in Nova Scotia is worse but I doubt it.And the restaurants are for shit.

Winnipeg won't even let people cross the street in their main section of downtown. Everyone is forced underground. There was a referendum about removing the street barriers recently but voters rejected it.

Other than Montreal, the city with the most niggers

R49, oh those black canadians hate quebec more than regular ole white people.

♡ R59

The bacony stink of old Canadian film productions 😅

R64 suburb of racist black canadians.

That actually sounds quite nice R27. It's on my shortlist of Canadian cities.

There are way too many choices. Canada, sadly, is an embarrassment of embarrassing riches. But for the truly ghastly look no further than the herpe on Canada's cock that is Ottawa Ontario. Slit wristingly terrible .

R76 I'm surprised to see Langley B.C. as no. 6 on the dangerous cities list. I lived there for a time and it struck me as affluent and boring, but not particularly unsafe. However my car was stolen in Surrey B.C. which is just west of Langley.

Selkirk, Manitoba is on the list. It's funny as "being sent to Selkirk" meant that you were crazy because that was where the mental hospital was (and maybe still is) located.

I am attracted to Edmonton as it has the largest remaining urban American ELM canopy in N America. Some of those residential neighborhoods are just dreamy with the characteristic arched allee's

My distaste for Windsor, Ontario has nothing to do with Detroit. In fact having a resurgent Detroit just across the river is one of the few pluses it has going for it. The architecture is totally uninteresting in Windsor. I'm real glad they have a good radio station, Bro. Wow. The residential neighborhoods are old dilapidated hulks. There is absolutely no decent shopping, and the only "club scene" that I Recall is the strip clubs that popped up around the time that their only casino opened. What's really tragic is that their Riverside Park has a wonderful view of the Detroit sky line. Very impressive, actually. As I said, Maybe Nova Scotia's bleak geography may be worse, but Windsor has my vote.

my move to REGINA wont make me happy and it shouldn't have to!

Winnipeg has many historic buildings from its boom years in the early 20th century. Unfortunately, many are vacant and dilapidated.

Oops. Forgot the link.

[quote] Maybe somewhere in Nova Scotia is worse

- Are you new to Canada? North America at that?

Terrace, BC.

Would Asbestos, Quebec count?

All I know is that it's called Asbestos, but that has to count for something, no?

R75, you are so fucking stupid you must congratulate yourself on being able to blink. Certainly not for proper punctuation or geography.

Toronto is 230 miles from Windsor. I've driven from Detroit to downtown Toronto in 3.5 hours many times.

[quote]I've driven from Detroit to downtown Toronto in 3.5 hours many times.

You have my sympathies.

Bruce McArthur's house

Windsor is a beautiful city, certainly affordable and friendly and for the most part safe. When Americans come here from Detroit they love it. And I love living in Windsor. It's the place for me.

r111 - Everything looks nice at night.

[quote] When Americans come here from Detroit they love it

Truly praise from Caesar

Hey, I'm in Windsor too! Never thought there was another DLer here... And its really not that bad of a city.

Thunder Bay or Ottawa just because it's dull as fuck. I like Edmonton because it's a rough creepy city.

I kind of hate Vancouver. I live here now and sure it's convenient and there are good things but it's a really soulless city. And it's been taken over by Asians.

Did someone say "soulless"?

- Gatineau and Ottawa government worker bees in endless farm cubicles.

I know Canadians love to rag on Winnipeg, but I liked living there. Great theatre and arts community for a mid-sized city, gay friendly, liberal and even elected an openly gay mayor way back in the 90s. Rural Manitoba is more conservative, but still not as bad as Alberta, Sask, and apparently Ontario now, (aside from southern Ontario). I'd go back if it weren't for my career and the winters.

List of Canadian hellholes I have personally experienced include, 1) Calgary, 2) Thunder Bay

Edmonton is alright, but it's like Winnipeg without any of its charm, arts, beautiful old buildings which have been preserved and revitalized.

Oh, R101- I condole you. No one should have to suffer that fate.

r101 meant VAGINA, r119.

No one should have to suffer THAT, R120.

Maine.

[QUOTE]Québec City, Québec. A pretty enough place, but many vile shop owners, restaurateurs, etc., who are openly contemptuous of USA residents and delight in pretending to not speak English in their presence. I have been on five continents and have never experienced this kind of behavior anywhere else. The rest of Canada is wonderful.

The language issue is ever-present. I've also travelled to over 20 countries and never seen anything like it either - the behaviour you reference.

Y'all better start finding something to like abut Canada, because it might be our place of refuge soon enough. And with Climate change destroying everything, I will be up north with fresh air and clean water. Ohhh, Canada!!!!!

Yes R117, and doing sweet full all while chewing up 50% of GDP.

R118 is Glen Murray.

r124

"Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?"

You're still safe, r124.

r79 I've known too many people from Ontario who say they're from Toronto or "just outside" Toronto but you later learn are from Timmins. It's a fucking seven-hour drive.

Slave Lake, in Alberta, which is near Lesser Slave Lake, which is smaller than Great Slave Lake.

A lot of it burned in wildfires in 2011 which didn't make it any better.

NIAGARA FALLS

Schitt's Creek, of course!

Truly a beautiful urban landscape r102. Now I feel like taking a long weekend trip to Winnipeg. I've never been. My brother, a government employee who lives in Ottawa (a townhouse in Kanata's Bridlewood), is often in Winnipeg for work and says it is unsafe. The only cities he knows for comparison are Ottawa and Montreal. And I don't think he's had much experience with Ottawa outside of the view from his car window.

Yes, he's fat.

Has anyone been to Dildo, Newfoundland. What's it like ?

French quebeckers rude to Americans? They must have mistaken you for an Anglo Canadian.

r134 To say it's pleasant is a bit of a stretch.

[quote]Truly a beautiful urban landscape [R102]. Now I feel like taking a long weekend trip to Winnipeg. I've never been. My brother, a government employee who lives in Ottawa (a townhouse in Kanata's Bridlewood), is often in Winnipeg for work and says it is unsafe. The only cities he knows for comparison are Ottawa and Montreal. And I don't think he's had much experience with Ottawa outside of the view from his car window. Yes, he's fat.

Are you Sanjay the Troll from Topix Winnipeg? Your brother lives in Ottawa but hasn't had much experience of the city other than the view from his car window? Riiiight. I believe you.