Gay sentenced to 15 years for tricking straight guys to sex

This is why they hate...never mind.

They didn't show a photo of the perp because people wouldn't click on it.

Wait, so BaitBus is real?

R1 it’s so true. Gays do shit like this then wonder why they’re so hated. It’s sad.

So these straight guys didn’t realize they were fucking a man?

Sure, Jan.

"they're so hated"

So you're a frau R4?

15 years?!

No, it's one of the idiots who's here to post how mannish Michelle Obama is and hate on her book. He stopped by to do a little gay bashing as well.

Don't agree with the sentence. Those guys had to be insanely stupid.

He got found out when one of the victims peeked underneath his blindfold and saw a beard, which makes me wonder how none of them felt stubble when he was sucking them off.

R5 He had to have spoken to them a little. Maybe the pressure wouldn’t be great in public but the ones invited to his apartment? It said he changed his voice to sound like a woman —I just don’t see how he got multiple guys to fall for this. Let alone complete.

The guy is gross and got what he deserved. 15 years is a long time but what he did isn’t cool. If a woman did this to a gay man (would never happen) we would all say she deserved a rape charge and the guy deserved his shame.

This has to be from The Onion. 15 years for 'tricking' someone into sex? Like homosexuality is illegal or something.

Half of us R11

The other half would be thinking he was "cured"

[quote]So you're a frau [R4]?

R4 has more of a cunt action going on, R6.

Tricking tricks into tricking?

The blindfolds were voluntary and removable. No excuse. This sounds like bullshit.

The only way this could be legit is if his victims were developmentally disabled.

Whoa!! It's even worse than it seems

The article from The Standard says dude was arrested TWICE for this-- TWICE!!! --- and then after the third arrest, they threw the proverbial book at him.

Sad thing is, he's not a hideous looking guy.

15 years for simply tricking straight guys into having sex with him??!! That's ridiculous and homophobic.

Check the link at R17, R18-- he was arrested twice before for this and let off with what seems like a warning or a fine

This is his third arrest

R18 it’s homophobic? Tricking people into having sex with you is RAPE

#JUSTICEFORDUARTE!!!!

From the article at R17

"Xavier was reported to police after a victim whipped off his blindfold mid-encounter."

Like I said, BaitBus is real.

But seriously--can you imagine the conversation with the police officer?

I would have bet money that (a) it was far more likely that the straight guy would have beat the shit out of him instead of going to the police, and (b) the straight guys would have been way too embarrassed to admit what happened to the police. Because how do you not know it's a man's ass or man's mouth?

Was he seducing previously virginal ex-priests?

Go to 01:11 to see Duarte in action

how stupid can those men be to not notice? they deserve it because of their idiocy

The scenario where a gay man tricks a blindfolded straight guy into sex is a popular fantasy scenario, is it not? Pornhub is rife with it.

I thought this was in the US, possibly in Florida. Is this the same case? Either way, this guy deserves the 15 years.

Men can rape women and get less time than that. They can murder women, and get less time in jail than this guy.

Shut up Christine

If a guy did that to women he wouldnt go to jail, this is homophobia and sexism

Lmfaoooooo you all are so bitter and out of touch.

Straight men go to prison all the time for just touching a woman inappropriately. Not everyone is a celebrity. They get away with shit. Not the rest of us.

I have used an app called Grindr and had sex with multiple people who did not specify their gender. I am worried I may have inadvertently had sex with a man. What should I do?

Those men should be jailed for criminal stupidity

He won’t need to dress up as a girl to get dick where he’s going.

At least he got to taste some good straight cock.

Those saying this is homophobic are correct. Men don't spend more than 5 years (on average) in jail for violent rapes of women.

I blocked R 1 and R 4. That’s what I mean by homophobia on Datalounge.

Of course he's not hideous, r17. He probably had some hot sex with one or more straight/bi guys when he was younger - being handsome enough for such a thing to happen in the first place - and then with that fetish implanted in his brain, he thought up this scheme to keep getting more str8 sex.

Luckily for me, I was never good looking enough for str8 guys to ever be even remotely interested in me, so this isn't a problem I'll ever have.

Does that mean it's homophobic? Or the system just hates women?

This is homophobia. Yes. 15 years is excessive.

Both, R38.

[quote]The court heard an impact statement from a victim who was diagnosed with PTSD after being used for Xavier's "own sick fantasy". It said: "He was so convincing. It was supposed to be a bit of honest fun between two consenting adults.

Can you imagine any straight guy falling for this? I don't believe this for a second and 15 years for giving someone a bj is something the American Penal System would do, isn't the UK supposed to be humanistic? This is clearly homophobic and sexist.

All of those guys knew it was a guy.

Well, he did get arrested for it several times, repeat offenders get long sentences.

Hopefully he has help. Any gay man that’s charged for anything will get the harshest penalty in the US.

No they don’t R42.

Yes they do, 44.

Well, the sad part is people will get this and he’ll serve all 15 years. Then another gay man will be charged with theft and he’ll get 50 years, and people will forget.

No, they don’t, R45. And, learn to reply.

*forget this.

Jesus Christ use google, habitual, repeat offenders get longer sentences

How gullible do you have to be to believe Bait bus? Like a bearded guy like that wouldn't touch your cock with his stubble?

Alright, you’re blocked.

In this day of crazed people who randomly harm/kill strangers, who would 'blindly' cover their eyes when meeting a stranger in the park or even at 'her' apartment?

Blocked because why? I'm right?

His prison name will be Salada Tosseur.

I know, R50. That guy had stubble too— the guy charged. Oh, well. I feel bad for gay men who go before judges. I did jury duty and could tell the judge was a homophobe. He was rude to me and only me when I discussed my background.

[quote] How gullible do you have to be to believe Bait bus? Like a bearded guy like that wouldn't touch your cock with his stubble?

I'll throw that back at you: does ANYONE actually believe BaitBus? (I was joking when I said it was real.)

I mean given that they use actual gay porn stars as the "straight" guy in a number of videos (and bill them as such) don't think that even they are thinking anyone believes it's a fucking documentary.

Red flag 1: required to wear a blindfold before stranger-sex

Red flag 2: beard stubble

Red flag 3: the most mind-blowing cocksucking that you have ever experienced in your life.

R34, Do you think straight cock tastes different from gay cock? Share your thoughts with us.

He’s a repeat offender. THAT IS WHY he got 15 years. This is the THIRD time he is getting arrested for this same crime. And it is a crime. It’s RAPE.

R58, would it be "rape" if the sucker was actually an ugly woman who claimed she was a beautiful woman?

R59 if I am sexually attracted to women, and you trick me into having sex with you by making me believe you’re a woman and then I find out you are actually a man, that’s rape. I didn’t consent to have sex with a man. If I knew that I wouldn’t have agreed.

Learn the laws and human decency before you get yourself in trouble.

R60, this scenario doesn't apply to me, but nevertheless: Do you really not understand my point? The guys who were "victimized" in this case would presumably have not been sexually turned on by a very ugly woman, no matter how straight they are, and the fact that they agreed to be blindfolded during sex meant they wouldn't be able to tell how attractive or ugly the "woman" sucking them off was. Which means that it was all about the fantasy woman in their heads, whereas if it was important to them how attractive the woman ACTUALLY was, they never would have agreed to a blindfold. So in terms of the deception, I don't think there's ultimately THAT much difference whether the person fellating them was actually a man or an ugly woman -- but if it had been an ugly woman, she would never have been sentenced to jail at all, let alone for 15 years.

They knew it was a man.

And even if they didn't KNOWit was a man, they must have suspected it was likely a man. And if they didn't suspect that, they are beyond stupid.

Oh good gawd. The punishment needs to fit the crime, and that punishment is way too harsh.

Maybe he can try this bait-and-switch in jail.

[quote] Using a “feminine” voice, he then arranged sexual liaisons at his flat

This is hilarious! What exactly did his "feminine voice" sound like?

If I got “tricked” into having sex with a woman, I can’t imagine it as an assault or getting PTSD from it. Honestly, I’d take a hot shower and shake it off. Why? Because no one cares! These “victims” were traumatized by the stigma of *homosexual* sex. They are terrified that they are no longer perfectly “straight.”

that judge is homophobic, its not that big a deal, and those guys are homophobic too... "Oh no I catched the gay!" They should go back to school

If the person who blindfolded them was an ugly woman she wouldnt be in jail I assure you

The sentence is a hate crime, obvously.

The gay guy should have claimed he identified as a woman.

But, R37, just think of all the cooties you avoided.

I'm willing to bet he didn't need to change his voice that much to sound female.

What an absurd sentence. Stories like this remind me hw important it is still have gay and lesbian advocacy organizations that don't spend all their time talking about trannys and bathrooms.

The perp shown in the Evening Standard excerpt in the OP article is pretty cute.

R74, do you agree there is a homophobic bias?

Somebody should write a play with the topic man fools other man into gay sex.

What if the other person is not the race they claim to be - is that also rape?

It's not homophobic to not want to fuck a dude, as much as you all are convinced every man alive is gay

R68 is correct. This is about “converting” more thsn anything else.

I love str8 loads. Tasty!

Rather draconian sentence for something that was pleasurable for all concerned parties.

He was out on bail when he did it for a THIRD TIME! If you shoplift enough, eventually you'll be locked up for life. He's a pervert with no impulse control.

How fucking stupid is this? That judge should be shot in the crotch.

R82 TBH, it probably ruined blow jobs forever for these poor blokes - women can’t measure up. The bar has been set too high.

This reminds me of a similar case. A straight college guy I knew slightly went to party at a house owned by a girl he was friends with. He got completely shit-faced drunk and while he was passed out in the spare bedroom, woke up to find the girls gay housemate sucking him off.

Excessive penalty. A straight guy who MURDERS gay men wouldn't get 2/3 as much prison time as this guy in Britain. Straight men's stinky, unwashed buttholes are considered more precious than gay men's lives.

What about all the people who lie about other things like their age or their dick size? They must be rapists too.

Yes, the judge has to have been a homophobe. Possibly the police involved as well. In a more local media website there is talk of the ‘utter depravity’ of the crimes and the utter trauma the men suffered. Then there is a link to a report of a man getting 4 years for sex with a 13 year old ! One victim has been diagnosed with PTSD. Something we used to associate with watching comrades be blown apart on the battlefield.

Either these men had never had physical contact with a woman ( or anyone for that matter ) before ever, they are all developmentally challenged or they are lying. This isn’t some previously arranged kink. They had blindfolds, or in one instance a pillowcase, put over their heads without prior agreement. In a fucking park ? At night ? Who does that in this day and age and doesn’t think that they were going to get robbed or attacked or that the ‘woman’ is deformed or diseased ? It’s too weird. Something doesn’t add up.

So, yes, the sentence is both homophobic and misogynistic because men rarely get that long for rape of women and while this situation involved trickery and coercion there was no force. To give just one example - John Worboys, who admitted to attacking 12 women but they suspect many, many more, was given an indeterminate sentence with a minimum custodial sentence of 8 years.

I wonder about the significance that the judge was a Judge Advocate General of the Armed Forces. Were they military ? His involvement is not explained.

For some reason the UK is rife with cases like this. Another recent one was a lesbian doing the same thing. What I want to know is whether the UK courts would penalize a tranny for not revealing their true sex before a sexual encounter? My guess would be NO.

Actually, YES, R90

Okay R91, my faith in humanity is restored ever so slightly. However, they seem to have prosecuted him for inserting a foreign object into the women without their consent, not for making them sleep with a woman against their will, like this case with the gay guy.

What if it had been a transwoman with a faux pussy? Would they have prosecuted then?

This is interesting. Let's say I'm an unattractive straight woman who wants to have sex with a handsome man. I steal a photo of a young model, and I use it on my profile, pretending it's a picture of me. I use my own voice to talk with men, but I try to make it sound sexier. Then, later when I'm ravishing the man, he rips off his blindfold to find out that I'm a 2 instead of a 10. Can he say I raped him?

Or alternatively, let's say I'm a straight handsome but poor man who makes a low salary and has a lot of debt. In my profile, I pretend to be rich. I meet a woman (not a hooker) traveling on business at a fancy hotel (paid for by my employer). During the act, the woman looks at my jeans on the floor and notices that the label says "Wrangler". Can she sue me?

Or...I'm a gay man, and my grindr profile has a pic of me looking very handsome. During the act, my trick moves to run his hands through my hair and suddenly finds himself holding a toupee? If he would have said no to having sex with a bald man, have I deceived him?

But was it surprise anal?

Those sentences in the UK (where people who stab and throw acid do less time) are ridiculous. Got to hand it to the American court system though; they are unperturbed by PC'ness, unlike in the UK where there's no longer deterrent.

Would an unattractive woman who did the same thing get the same sentence, or be charged at all? If not, I have a problem with this. Because actual those fools did give consent.

They gave consent to male/female sex. You're not homophobic for not wanting sex with a man.

He isn't bad looking. I don't see why he needed to use fake pictures to find men. I am sure he could have gotten plenty of them using his real picture. Maybe not "straight" ones, but still men nonetheless. That was very silly of him.

[quote] This victim [...] said [...]: “My reaction was I slapped this man in his face once or twice and I said ’why didn’t you tell me the truth?’”.

The victim sounds like he's a DLer!

And I don't believe for a second that he's straight. Vicious face-slapping followed by a soulful, tsk-tsking question is not how a usual straight guy would react to this situation.

But so nice to hear one of our own is making national news! Even if it is as a victim of blind trick-fuck...

^*of a blind trick-fuck...

I'm amused by all these examples of tricking someone into having sex with you (switched profile pics, voices, toupes...) It sounds like some DLers are trying to figure out how close to the line they can get without being charged with rape. I'm going to throw a wild idea out there, why not try being honest? There are lots of people who will have sex with you. Avoid the ones who will only sleep with you if they think you're someone else.

R93, that situation could be intentional identity fraud:

[quote] Identity fraud is the use by one person of another person's personal information, without authorization, to commit a crime or to deceive or defraud that other person or a third person.

Hopefully there’s a a gay group that protects gay prisoners from this sort of thing.

Anyone who consents to being blindfolded, consents to being fooled.

[quote]I'm going to throw a wild idea out there, why not try being honest? There are lots of people who will have sex with you.

Newsflash: for many gay men - me included - the types who will have sex with us are ones we don't consider attractive. Not that this justifies what the guy in the article did.

[quote] why not try being honest?

But where's the fun in that?

This has sent a chill down my spine.

I bet the judge is a straight man who values these mens "straightness" more than gay mens lives. Shame on him

R91, most of these cases are about blindfolding, etc. I think the sentence is excessive

Personal responsibility must be taken into account with cases at some point. At the very least, the blindfold should have been a tip off that the person on the other end was not who they said they were. The fact that the person was a different gender is irrelevant.

Speaking of which, not all trans people identify themselves as such when they start dating someone. Ethically, it's wrong but legally, it's not criminal.

This reminds me of that Chinese guy sue hdis wife for being ugly. Turns out she had had extenwive plastic surgery to altr her appearance. Then when they had a baby the infant was very ugly. At first he accuses her of having an affair. Then he realizes that the kid is really his and he also found out about the plastic surgery. He sued his wife for fraud and he WINS THE LAWSUIT.

The judge must have watched “BOYS BEWARE” before he convicted the guy.

Did the wife serve 15 years R115?

You're probably right, R110. I think back to the 'masculine bisexual guy' who used to post here and say how fragile masculinity is and how important it was to him and guys like him to protect it, and how anything "gay" was to be avoided at all costs. Other DLers have professed similar views.

I can't believe the guy had the nerve to try this. Some macho redneck could have killed him, and in some locations, the courts would have been sympathetic.

Kris Jenner should sue Caitlyn for tricking her that she was a dude.

The fact that some gay men dont realize the inherent homophobic bias in this judge and the sentence is astonishing

R107 newsflash, you are a damaged minority among gay men. "Most" gay men are not mentally ill losers like you are.

There have been sitting jury’s that believe gay is a choice and a sin. The court system is so homophobic.

Why am I a "mentally ill loser" r121? I didn't say I agreed with what the guy did.

R92, he was arrested for the foreign object, not because of being trans, in that case there would be no crime

So if the guy came out as trans, could he have avoided the prison sentence?

[quote]R120 The fact that some gay men dont realize the inherent homophobic bias in this judge and the sentence is astonishing

If you have evidence the judge gave a straight person a lighter sentence for a similar crime, then you could prove bias.

Otherwise, any “bias” is just supposition.

[quote]He isn't bad looking. I don't see why he needed to use fake pictures to find men. I am sure he could have gotten plenty of them using his real picture. Maybe not "straight" ones, but still men nonetheless. That was very silly of him.

You have zero understanding of this dude's fetish/ kink. He isn't into just having ordinary sex. He gets off most on duping straight dudes into having sex. He may not even be able to perform under any other circumstances.

If I were his attorney I would be working on a defense that includes the creep saying he "feels" like a woman.

^^if it's good enough for trannies who make no effort to look like women when they invade women's spaces, then why can't it be good enough to get this guy off scott free?

There was just a woman sent to prison in the UK for misrepresenting herself as a man (to have sex with a woman). In her case, she wore a strap on and other "masculine" accouterments, but her attorneys did not try to say she was really trans so it's okay.

The crime is the misrepresentation.

Found the article here.

R129 Especially when not everyone can afford the surgery.

[quote] The jury heard that the complainant not only wore the blindfold during sex but also for at least 100 hours when the pair were just hanging out – going for drives, sunbathing and even “watching” films together.

I had to stop after reading this. It's just too ridiculous.

R131, meet R90.

Again, why wouldn't they use the tranny defense? It's not they would be forced to have surgery.

Are you sure that's the case in the UK too, R124?

If you are correct, how is that not completely unfair? Trans people are also deceiving people if they don't reveal their true sex. And what's to stop people, as suggested upthread, to simply claim a trans identity to get out of being prosecuted? After all, "self-id" is becoming the law of the land, and no change in apppearance can be required of a trans person.

This can not be true. A crime? This is just dumb or fake news.

R134, thanks.

R136. yes im sure, non disclosure of trans status is not a crime

What's the typical sentence in the UK for a violent rape where someone is brutalized and injured?

More or less than 15 years?

Sentences in the UK are all over the place. Habitual car parking offenders can end up doing more time in jail than killers. Also prison conditions should be taken into account as they're more humane, they're treated with more dignity than the greater percentage of the planet. Eighteen members of the Huddersfield grooming gang were recently sentenced between 5 and 18 years each in prison.

The fact so many of you don’t know what RAPE is scares me.

Your suggestion that there are gray areas is literal violence, r142.

Rape is non-consensual sex.

It doesn't have to be violent--but it obviously always carries the threat of violence. If you don't understand, read Alice Sebold's ironically titled memoir of being raped, "Lucky."

Rape under British law = penetration only.

[quote]He had to have spoken to them a little.

Maybe he had a tape recording like the barber in the barber shop/lumberjack sketch on Monty Python.

Skip to 2:44 in the link above -- I embedded the link with time stamp but DL seems to ignore that....

^^ Michael Palin was a hottie - the only attractive one in the bunch.

This makes so sense at all. If a man sees a woman's profile on a dating site, and her photo looks attractive, then wouldn't he want to watch her as she performs these act?

In a case like this, it would be reasonable to expect a bait and switch. Maybe some of the guys thought it was an unattractive woman who was using someone else's photos to get some sex. And, even if the woman wasn't attractive as she pretended to be, at least they were getting some sex out of the deal, and with the blindfold, they could still pretend the woman looked like a model.

R144 EXACTLY. Non consensual sex. He didn’t consent to have sex with a man that tricked him into it. That’s RAPE as well as identity theft and so on.

They gave him 3 chances and he still did it again. Now he’s in trouble and you all are crying homophobia?

I have no sympathy for either the victim or the perp. Had the perp got his ass kicked, he would have deserved it, but at the same time the person calling rape has only his idiocy to blame. Both entered into a high risk situation which could have ended badly for either one of them. Unless the victim was mentally retarded, I don't see why the courts should have been involved.

Who puts on a blindfold upon entering a complete stranger’s home, for a casual hookup?

JFC. They’re lucky they’re not dead.

This was 100% wrong on the behalf of the offender, however, no one should ever do something like this. They can be seriously injured, robbed, held against their will or murdered.

An argument might be made that laws are in place in part to PROTECT the simpleminded.

If these men were dumb, it doesn’t mean they can’t be victims.

those men are stupid, I swear to god, but something doesnt add up, its like theyre too retarded to be true

If straight men really are this stupid, perhaps there's hope for some of our more fixated Dataloungers.

This literally happens every minute online. You'd have to be a dumbass to try it in person though.

PTSD? seriously?