Holy crap! Martin Sheen and his wife are MISSING while trying to escape the inferno!

Wow, would hate to lose Martin Sheen this way! Much of Malibu is on fire ....that's really scary

F-U, Op -

They're gone, this is so sad...

It’s like the French Revolution. I have no sympathy for the rich of Malibu. They’ve lived a very good life while normal people have suffered. Burn, baby, burn.

It is on Charlies twitter

I hope Chad is okay.

..........

This could all make Charlie Sheen spiral into drug addiction again.

Then again, maybe he tossed a burning joint into some tall grass and stated it all.

I don't know how he raised the horrible kid, Charlie. But I always thought Martin was a pretty nice guy. Charlie is like Trump, he hates women, did Martin raise him that way or did Hollywood teach him that.

According to twitter, the reception in that area comes and goes

WHERE’S EMILIO ? ?

How about Goldie and Kurt?

Post Charlie's Twitter comments on his 'missing' parents -

[Quote]they are in the group, at the staging ground near Zuma Beach.

SO are they okay then? Are they standing on the seashore with other people?

Martin had a near-fatal heart attack 42 years ago, brought on by the stress of filming Apocalypse Now. At his age, a raging fire induced heart attack would definitely do him in.

R9 that's a fascinating question. I believe in some people, the peer and social environment can play a bigger part in character development than parents and family. But who knows in this case.

It would do me in.

What is Charles trying to promote?

See R7 for the tweet or Google it yourself

Whew! I got outta Malibu decades ago, and Parkinson's or no Parkinson's, consider myself VERY lucky.

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r20 made my night.

There was a similar massive fire like this in Malibu 30 years ago, and Jerry Brown sent the National Guard to protect Linda's house.

Or was that from the floods that followed?

I know he's not a favorite here, but James Woods is using his twitter to pass along information about missing people from the fire.

Lots of elderly people.

It's like reading a fast moving scenario of the fire.

R2 what a bizarre, rude post - even for you!

And yes, I hate to admit it but James Woods is pro-actively using his recently-re-instated twitter feed for good.

Too bad it's not Charlie

By the way, the beach may not be the safest place, apparently yachts were burning offshore.

Plus, this:

As the Woolsey Fire made its way across Ventura County, it burned around the Santa Susana Field Lab, a site that has been considered “significantly contaminated” by decades of rocket and nuclear reactor testing and a partial nuclear meltdown in 1959. There was alarm among some residents who worried smoke created near the hazardous site could prove particularly dangerous, but authorities from the California Department of Toxic Substances Control who oversee the site say there is no evidence that smoke from the area around the SSFL is any more dangerous than other wildfire smoke.

Concerns about the SSFL site spread quickly around social media as people in the area saw burn maps that showed flames passing the facility and users shared a Forbes article with the headline “California’s Woolsey Fire Now Threatening Malibu Went Through the Site of a Nuclear Accident First”–which states in the body of the story that the concerns about radioactive ash were unsubstantiated. (They say...)

Burning embers can stay airbound for 5 or more minutes and they can land hundreds of meters away. The big problem is they can easily be pulled into air conditioning units which is why they should never be operated near a fire.

There were devastating wildfires in Greece a few weeks ago. I recall at a seaside resort many people swam into the ocean to escape the flames and smoke. Many of them died, though I don't know of what (fatigue? drowning? smoke inhalation? heat?)

r30, over 120 thousand died.

What! 120,000???

R32, that's in Greece , not Malibu...what part of that do you not understand?

R32 that other poster was incorrect. The Greek fires claimed 99 lives.

R31 it was 99 not 120,000

R33, JFC the part about 120,000 people perishing in Greece.

Thanks for clarifying R34 and R35.

99, 120,000, what’s the difference? “A lot of Greeks.” Ok? Sheesh.

R37 failed Accounting 101.

So has anyone seen my old friend Martin?

Still *crickets* on CNN about the mysteriously 'missing' elder Sheens -

Hope hes gone

I thought someone said tube Sheen's were safe?

I saw someone on twitter, so huge grain of salt, say that they had seen Martin and he was ok. The fire is not right there, so they should be ok. It is possible cell towers might be down?

TIGER BLOOD! TIGER BLOOD! WHERE IS MY TIGER BLOOD SMOOTHIE?

It's tweets like that that make Martin and Janet Sheen ignore their son. They're old. They're tired.

Emilio does his best.

Reporter @KevinTakumi found him and has a pic of him on his account being interviewed.

He said in the interview that he and his wife have been at Zuma Beach since 9:30 am, and that they'll probably sleep in their car tonight. He also said they didn't save anything from the house except some food to eat.

Finally, he's been living in Malibu since 1970 and said this is the worst fire they've seen.

Overall he was really calm though. Just thankful.

The good news is Gaga is safe in her Hollywood Hills house - the old Frank Zappa house.

I just copied this headline from The DM: California reels as the most destructive wildfire in the state's HISTORY kills at least NINE in the north razing 6,500 homes, while 250k evacuate Malibu as flames rage over 200 square miles in total

I know there's a separate thread but I'm wondering if his house has been swallowed up by the flames.

Per DM, Martin Sheen is found on a beach used for evacuation. He is safe... good news.

I’ve grown very numb to the mass shootings but the wildfires are different. We only report on human lives but millions of wildlife animals (even insects) and domestic pets, horses, and barnyard animals, are being burnt alive. I think that’s probably the worst way to die. The plants and trees, some hundreds of years old, turned to ash. More carbon in the air, less oxygen. I’m safe on the East Coast, where it’s been raining too much all year (if only we could transfer our excess rain to California) but I’m feeling so sad and scared. It’s overwhelming. These are the kinds of fires that would be remembered for centuries or even millennia—events of biblical proportions— except they’re happening every few months. It’s as if every season brought a new Vesuvius or Krakatoa eruption.

He was safe, he was hiding behind his son Emilio's career. Nothing gets passed that.

whoever said 120,000 died should go die in a Greece fire.

[quote] There were devastating wildfires in Greece a few weeks ago. I recall at a seaside resort many people swam into the ocean to escape the flames and smoke. Many of them died, though I don't know of what (fatigue? drowning? smoke inhalation? heat?)

Someone here must know?

R53, from a BBC article, the hot ash and flying debris forced people to swim far out, and there were large waves and currents, and they were in there for hours and unfortunately didn't make it.

Found safe, living in their 2018 Mercedes Benz 600S. Nibbling al fresco on a picnic pac from Gelsons. They send their love.

R31's number of fatalities in the Greek fires is pure BS.

Color me stupid but if Martin & his wife were able to evacuate at 9:30 am yesterday then why are they sleeping in their car at Zuma Beach?

They have money. Why not drive into Hollywood or LA proper & rent a hotel?

Charlie is the Sheen family Bad Seed. Nothing to do with Martin and Janet Sheen as parents. They are great people.

r23.....wrong....shes told that story multiple times in interviews.....Brown REFUSED to send help (it was the flooding) because he didnt want it to appear he was showing favoritism towards her because they were dating at the time.

I think the roads are blocked, r57.

Also, I heard an interview with a lady stuck on the side of the road with her SUV full of cats. She said all the rooms within a hundred miles were booked.

R57, maybe they went down and expected to be let back into their home at some point, then got trapped there? I don't know how trapped people were at the beach, but I got the impression that they were stuck there due to blocked off roads.

None of them have boats to take them somewhere else or at least to act like a shuttle ? Not buying it.

Zuma Beach

R62, I heard some of the boats in the water were on fire too.

I have available housing for any cute young fire refugees!

Those poor animals at R63 are probably going to suffocate. Why just leave them there? They could fit in a pickup or maybe even an suv in a pinch. I’d sure try to stuff them in whatever vehicle I had and get them the hell out of there.

They're stuck on the beach due to road closures, r66.

Could they walk along the beach to move further away from the fire? I mean, the people with their animals in tow, not the animals by themselves.

The llamas were there yesterday and I have to assume someone has moved them since the picture first showed up. They were left on the beach with other animals who were too big (horses, mostly) to evacuate because of traffic, and the beach was somewhat secure. It's actually a specific evacuation zone for large animals.

Video interview with Martin Sheen about his evacuation, the fire, etc.

Cher said her brother in law could get from her home to her mom's via car.

He had to get there by foot. Cher said he was able to get her mom, her mom's dog, her sister, their dog & Cher's 2 cats out.

Her mom is a frail 92 y/o. No way she could walk the distance from her house to Cher's to get to the car.

Maybe he hired a helicopter? What a nightmare.

Charlie has offered to let his parents live with him. Martin & Janet were then spotted running back into the flames.

I feel bad about the animals though.

YR's Tracey Bregman lost her home to the fires. She said she was able to get her horses, mom & kids out though.

I hope they rescue as many animals as possible. I feel terrible for the strays.

Real estate experts: Will land be less expensive to buy after this, or is it still desirable because it's ocean adjacent?

R75, I’m not a real estate expert, but I’ve been down there. There’s a lot of ramshackle older places there wedged between other homes, both older and newer. They are wildly expensive.

My guess is, either some rich neighbor will gladly buy the burnt lot next door and add on to their house, or some rich Persian will buy two burnt down lots and build a big tacky mansion there.

The second alternative is somebody gladly buys a burnt down lot, clears it and can build a brand new house where there are never any vacant lots. It’s a chance of a lifetime for someone with money.

But will the owners of a gutted house do well? Not as well as they could with a house on it. My guess is most will rebuild.

There will probably be some older people who bought their houses many years ago whose insurance might not cover everything, or maybe they’re worried about living there due to floods and fires as they age. They might be forced out because they’re land poor.

Someone please help me to understand.... if you owned land there & built a reinforced concrete house with reinforced concrete roof (ie, very little directly combustible material on the outsite) and had Florida-type impact-glass & steel shutters (the kind that roll down or across... not the kind that take hours to bolt on), would your house be generally OK?

I know burning embers fly, but I'm getting the impression that typical construction methods in that area (mostly wood, with large unprotected windows) makes things a lot worse than a comparable fire might be in a "concrete jungle" like Miami Beach, even IF Biscayne Bay were a burning forest hurling burning embers towards hurricane-hardened concrete homes & skyscrapers.

It’s a lot easier to get a loan or mortgage on a “house,” whatever condition it’s in, than a vacant lot. The type of loan you get for a vacant lot is different and it’s harder to get. But these people are very rich and it won’t matter unless they’re heavily leveraged. Which some of them probably secretly are.

Martin Sheen seems to be one of the good guys.

James Woods is the worst person on the planet

R79 yes, but I have always been curious as to what the fuck happened with Charlie Sheen. Usually dysfunctional, violent men come from dysfunctional violent fathers (look at Ryan O Neal 's son) but in this case the two men seem polar opposites.

R80 he's a bigoted, hideous roach. And he's friends with Seth McFarlane, which pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

[quote]Charlie is the Sheen family Bad Seed.

He's the POZ Seed.

R80 is Sean Young.

I 💜 r72.

R84

James Woods would fund forest fires if it meant gay people would die

R70 Notice how Martin said Emilio's name first and Charlie's name last.

It seems like he favoured Emilio over Charlie since Emilio is the good boy.

[quote]...then why are they sleeping in their car at Zuma Beach?

The interior of his Mercedes 600S is probably a lot nicer than your apartment.

[quote]R77 if you owned land there & built a reinforced concrete house with reinforced concrete roof (ie, very little directly combustible material on the outsite) and had Florida-type impact-glass & steel shutters (the kind that roll down or across... not the kind that take hours to bolt on), would your house be generally OK?

I know some newer museums are built that way, to protect the collections from natural disaster, but I don’t know the expense, or procedure...

[quote]SUV full of cats. She said all the rooms within a hundred miles were booked.

Good for her for saving a SUV full of cats. Sleeping in the car with them might have been tough. Wasn't there at least one motel that allowed cats?

Stanley the Giraffe is OK after Woolsey Fire evacuations in Malibu

[r91] that is great news!

All that smoke would kill me. How do people with asthma live through it?

They don't.

R72 lol.

[quote] a SUV

Oh, dear...

If it did not burn from the outside in, most things inside would just catch fire from the heat.

Like with the Titanic, the rich get rescued.

R80... I don't like him, either. Politics aside, he has used his twitter account as an emergency bulletin board for people to try to get in touch with each other, to help with animals, shelter. He helped Alyssa Milano save her horses. I'll give him a pass.