Why do Millenials bring their kids EVERYWHERE with them?!

[quote]Even when I went to see Fifty Shades of Grey

I stopped reading here.

Are you a guy or a girl?

When it costs more to hire a babysitter for the evening than the price of a movie ticket, meal or any activity...

Why is it that there are always kids crying and screaming in Target, but not at Walmart?

Because they're a more tolerant, more gregarious and less stupid generation than yours, OP. They're doing anything within their power so that their children won't turn into bitter selfish cunts such as yourself.

Get it?

Or, it could be that they need the constant admiration and unconditional love that children (at least in the stage of which we're complaining) provide. Imagine that: the trophy generation has given birth to the ultimate in participation trophies! Wait until this generation matures if you want to see dysfunction, anger and outrageous displays of arrogance and immature behavior!

R5 no they’re cheap and inconsiderate. If they cared they would have their kids at home while they go see an R rated film or go on a dinner date at a nice restaurant. They wouldn’t have them there screaming and acting up and disturbing EVERYONE ELSE that is there.

When you bring your kids to IT and Paranormal Activity there’s an issue.

And I’m 31. I am a part of their generation.

R4 I am an Executive for Target and working here is what made me realize parents literally let their kids do ANYTHING.

THEY ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEIR DOUCHE CUNT PARENTS DID. MILLENNIALS ARE SELF CENTERED BRAIN DEAD BUBBLE FOOLS WHO ALSO JUST WANT TO BE THEIR KIDS BEST FRIENDS.

There are so many little kids at concerts now. Their parents have no friends so they bring their kids to concerts as an excuse to go. The kids have no idea what's going on. Their parents put up on social media "Tyler's first concert."

The ones who kill me are the ones who drag their day old infants out to a restaurant or public event. I don’t know whether to be annoyed or impressed.

R5 Is [italic]everything[/italic] you write the exact opposite of the truth, the way it is on DL?

R10 I have a coworker like that. She no lie gave birth and days later was already out taking her newborn everywhere with her, including a PARTY Saturday night. Some of us would go out for drinks after work and she would go pick up her baby from the babysitter and come meet us. With the baby. No lie. We used to get so annoyed with her that we eventually stopped inviting her. (Well one coworker still always invited her and we would be like WHY?? We don’t need a crying baby with us while we are having dinner and drinking.)

In 1999, there was a couple with their three children -- two toddler age and one an infant -- when my brother and I went to see THE MESSENGER, the Joan of Arc film starring Milla Jovovich. At one point, the baby started to cry, but they never left the theater. So annoying.

It is irresponsible to the children, who require structured schedules to be healthy, not to mention inappropriate circumstances.

It is inconsiderate of other adults, and it sucks when businesses become family oriented, with bright lights and other such cheap trappings.

GenX and Millennials don't believe in babysitters. And this attachment parenting nonsense and the hyper-competition. So glad my kids are almost grown. It was hell navigating that world, especially as a gay parent.

Why is it that there are always kids crying and screaming in Target, but not at Walmart? ANSWER: The walmart kids are beaten regularly at home so know better than to lip off when they are at a store.

R13 so you get it? There isn’t rarely a film for adults that I go to see that doesn’t have kids now. It’s insane. Your kids shouldn’t be EVERYWHERE you are.

I remember while in LA this past May I was sleeping in my hotel room and was awoken by kids running up and down the hallway screaming and the parents just laughing. It was like 6 am there. I was fuming.

After that I made sure that my trip to Miami was in an Adults only hotel. I stayed at Hotel Gaythering simply cause it’s adults only.

Millennial parents take their kid to a Ghost concert all dress up for social media "look at meeeeee" moment. Go to the 2nd photo in the IG link. A GHOST CONCERT! Yes, I know, it's sooooo cute! Not!

Go youtube to see who they are.

Btw, I'm seeing Ghost later this month.

I used to love going to outdoor fairs, antique shows, book fairs, craft shows, etc, but no more. They are ruined by women pushing those giant strollers loaded with equipment and a squalling brat. A large local high school hosts a spring and fall flea market that has gotten bigger and bigger over the years; about three years ago they began putting "please, no strollers" in their ads and posting signs on the doors, but did that stop these entitled cunts? I can't really blame the infants; I'd probably screech my head off too if I were crammed into a hot gymnasium with nothing but big asses in mom jeans right at eye level to look at for hours.

SO many local events like art fairs have been RUINED because of the obligatory "family friendly" areas or "kid's villages" with stupid shit like "face painting" and inflatable "bounce houses." Not everything is designed to include children. Leave your brats at home!

[quote]Wait until this generation matures if you want to see dysfunction, anger and outrageous displays of arrogance and immature behavior!

You've just described OP's generation, the one that precedes Millennials, whatever it's called. No other generation would produce so much bitterness and cuntiness.

[quote] And I’m 31. I am a part of their generation.

You're still a byproduct of horrible parents, no balanced person would create a thread like this or be a cunt because children (yes, I wrote it annoyingly just to irritate you) .

r5 nails it. Perhaps OP just wants to stick an ipad r phone in their kids hands so they won't be bothered. I think it's almost child abuse to have kids only to ignore them.

Unlike most catty (and effeminate, I'm guessing) queens here I don't hate women and love children, because I had loving parents and I'm not a selfish asshole bordering psychopathy. So I couldn't care less about children in the open. I'm very happy to see children being themselves and, you know, acting like children not like repressed individuals who will grow up and start threads like this and die bitter and alone.

I do agree with OP. It is incredibly annoying.

Many of my favorite breweries I won't even go to anymore because they are overrun with little kids. At a fucking beer brewery where adults are drinking, people will have little Skylar's 2nd brithday party.

Because millennial don't have money for babysitters and day cares and many of their parents are still working because they too do not have money so their parents can't take care of the kid.

If republicans and their voters stopped trying to destroy the middle class, then people could pay for baby sitters and day cares.

Parents should educate their kids, instead of give anyone work for being with them. Other people have lives.

I was at a football game and the Millenial parents behind us had their newborn with them. The mother attempted to “shush” us because we were cheering too loudly in a stadium filled with 30,000 people. We promptly ignored her.

I'm guessing OP lives in a part of Brooklyn with lots of young families and well, they live there too.

Kids don't usually stay up late so you might find them in the local Chinese restaurant at 6PM.

Again, it's their neighborhood, they live there.

That said, there have been occasions where I've seen families bring little kids to adult-themed movies at late hours (10PM movie) and my based on their appearance, I had figured that affording a babysitter was out of the question and the kids slept through the movie so no skin off my back.

You don't know millennials.

[quote] I am an Executive for Target and working here is what made me realize parents literally let their kids do ANYTHING.

I prefer shopping at Target to Walmart, but I am not joking-- when I think of Target, I think of crying kids.I've lived all over the country, and no matter where I go, there are crying, screaming kids in Target. And, it's white people who are largely responsible. For whatever reason, it's not like that in Walmart or regular grocery stores.

Less money to spend on the kid but more money to take care of

"Millennial parents are more likely to struggle financially A report by Young Invincibles explains why millennial parents are having a harder time financially than previous generations.

For one thing, childcare and education costs have increased to 18% of the total cost of raising a kid, from just 2% in 1960.

What's more, as the Washington Post points out, the average 18- to 34-year-old today makes about $2,000 less than they would have in 1980. And many millennial parents are still paying off their own student loans, making it difficult to put money away for their kids' college education."

Even going someplace where you think you can escape kids is futile. Kids in strollers at Vegas casinos at 1 a.m., late-night dining, bars. I don't want to see or hear your crotch fruit, thank you.

Your money problems are not my concern.

OP dreams of the old times when children were being repressed at their homes and grew up to be major assholes who then turned society into an individualist shit hole. Thank God those days are over and there are people trying to make it different. I commend all the breeders brave enough to bring any child into a world where OP and his ilk exist.

R4. Have you seen who shops at Walmart? You’d keep the crotch fruit very, very close too.

Yes it is so brave to expect society to accommodate your children wherever you go and never expect to make arrangements to take care for children.

What the fuck are you even going on about? You sound demented.

It's disconcerting to see so many of them at wineries and breweries as Daddy and Mommy drink themselves into oblivion.

R36. That’s a call to child protection services.

Exactly what I was saying. These are places that adults go to drink, not a place for little kids. Then mommy and daddy drink up and then get behind the wheel of their car to drive their kid home.

Go to any brewery on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon and watch it happen.

Society is MADE OF children, if you dislike to see humans everywhere you should crawl back under a rock and stay there. R35 It's not our fault you had a terrible childhood and can't deal with humans.

And add pets to the mix. Besides the kids, they drag their damn dogs everyplace.

[quote] if you dislike to see humans everywhere you should crawl back under a rock and stay there

Man, don't hurt yourself with all that reaching. Certain places are not meant for children. Concerts for non-youth demographic bands, places that revolved around alcohol, and adult movies being at the top of that list. Certain parents need to learn that they should bring the kids with them everywhere.

But I am sure you will just go on another hysterical rant.

I’ve watched parents bring young children into the weight room at my gym and “play” on the equipment.

I agree - there should be “adult only” spaces. I suspect many would pay more for such places.

Children should stay home until 18.

The only hysterical rant I see here is of selfish queens whose mommy never gave them love, complaining that they can't go to open spaces without running into children, so yeah, they should crawl back under a rock and take you R41 with them.

One odd thing: here in NY, it is not uncommon to see very little kids with their parents, the kids in some costume, usually super-hero but also cowboy, Link (from The Legend Of Zelda), and something original. It's usually boys rather than girls. And they're always very well-behaved, quiet and curious and just watching everything. No runn ing around or screaming.

Maybe it's because their parents are taking the trouble to listen to them, so they're being raised in an atmosphere of not mindless indulgence but supportive interest. I always notice this because I was raised by selfish monsters.

So it's not about what the parents can afford but about how much they participate in the emotional growth of their kids.

R20 I’m a millennial stupid.

OP, Never move to Spain!!! The culture revolves around children and catering to all their needs. Children go everywhere with the family, i.e. bars, restaurants, concerts and clubs. I hate it, but that’s life here in Spain.

To be honest: we as a society no longer trust strangers to watch our children, and we also have fixated on the idea that you can have it all as a parent, and don't need to sacrifice anything.

Therefore, when mom and dad decide they want to get drunk at the local artisanal small batch microbrewery, and they cannot download an app to help line up trusted childcare, instead of thinking "gee, maybe being a parent means I shouldn't take all three of my toddlers to get day-drunk in public," they dress their screeching autistic brood in halloween costumes, and let the other paying customers babysit them, while trying desperately to forget that they were ever parents in the first place.

It boggles my mind why anyone would choose to have children in today’s world. Education is unaffordable, healthcare and housing are costly. Jobs are competitive (soon they’ll all be Tiger moms in the US). Horrific imagery is accessible with a click of a button (computer, phone, TV). Even if you raise your kid well, he/she will be surrounded by total brats (no one actually parents their kids anymore), so your kid isn’t guaranteed to be a decent human being.

R44 you’re seriously demented. And please stop with all the posts pretending to be different users yet they all speak exactly the same. At least TRY.

I was raised by my mother and stepdad (who was in my life since I was 2) and she was a stay at home mom until I wasn’t in my teens. I had tons of love. But my mother was also appropriate. She didn’t take us with her on her dates with my stepdad. She didn’t take us with her to see the adult films she was going to see. She didn’t take us to Atlantic City with her. She didn’t take us to the bars with her etc. if she was going out she made plans ahead. And she didn’t leave us with strangers. She left us with family or close friends willing to watch us and she would offer money but none took it (minus one cousin who was a teen). By the time I was a teen I could watch my sisters.

But that’s how you do it. You don’t take your kids EVERYWHERE you go.

Have you ever considered R49 that some people are still fighting the good fight and are trying to build a better world or trying to correct what's wrong. DLers spend all day long talking about the importance of voting and whatnot and then go on enormous rants against children. Who are you voting for? Are you all so cynical or selfish that you can't see beyond that?

No one. No one. No one. Is speaking AGAINST children. People are speaking against parents bringing kids where they don’t belong and parents not parenting. Parents allowing their kids to run wild where they shouldn’t be running wild. Department stores are not the playground. Hotel hallways are not the playground. Restaurants and movie theaters are not the playground.

I see tons of Gen X parents doing this, too - you guys are just looking for another reason to attack millennials. Yawn. Flames and freaks for this thread - Republicans hate millennials because they didn't vote for Trump. Get over it.

R51, it’s R49 here. I see your point, and of course I don’t advocate everyone cease reproducing, but...the notion that having a child is “fighting the good fight” or will help “correct what’s wrong” is delusional, especially when most parents aren’t willing to put in the hard work. Most of the women I know that have had children have silently regretted it.

Some queens are triggered they had horrible daddies and mommies and are now writing huge love letters trying to justify their cuntiness. You're all assholes and you know it. The love you claim they gave you was just repression, and now it bothers you that other parents know better. Its the same logic effeminate queens use to attack masculine gay guys, pure jealousy. I would bet good money the majority of children haters are of the former persuasion.

" FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WOULD ALL CHILDREN OF MILLENNIALS PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH !!! "

There’s a reason I’ve never had a kid and won’t. People need to stop reproducing JUST CAUSE. Most of them can’t even afford it.

ADD R55 TO THAT ^^^^^^

That poster is seriously deranged r56. I hope they stay far away from the children they think they are advocating for.

Sorry but kids should not be taken everywhere, it just isn't fair. Kids that throw fits should never be taken anywhere.

Look R5's steaming pile of priggish self-righteousness.

Put r55 on ignore and 1/2 the thread disappears. Look who seems to be "triggered." Sheeeesh.

r59,

Yes, r23, but your hostility, haughtiness, and numerous other sociopathies are quite obvious...so much for all that good parenting...

sorry r59. not for you.

Be honest about your kid, if it won't obey you, keep it at home until it will obey you.

It isn't as hard as you think, if it throws a fit in public, take it home right away. Don't pretend it will shut up soon, it won't.

It's not just a millennial thing. I remember going to see "Silence of the Lambs" for the first time when it came out nearly 30 years ago, and I saw two different couples bring their small children.

A lot of stupid parents will let their kids stay up till midnight...those parents are fools who do not take good care of their children. The poor kids think that THEY are the adults and the parents do not deserve respect and they don't get it.

"it's almost child abuse to have kids only to ignore them."

No, r22, it's child abuse to take children to violent R-rated movies and be out past 9 pm. It's abuse of children for parents to drag them everywhere they want to go whether it's appropriate or not. It'd also the responsibility of the parents to make sure if the child or children are crying or unhappy or need attending to, they take their children out and attend to them in a way that doesn't disrupt the lives and enjoyment of other adults.

This is a VERY simple issue. My niece has a son and she wouldn't dream of taking this baby out to a movie at 8 pm. The baby has a regulated nap time and bed time. THAT is parental responsibility. Period. These are bogus claims that the world should tolerate the whims of selfish parents, millennial or otherwise.

"My niece has a son and she wouldn't dream of taking this baby out to a movie at 8 pm. "

Or any movie, I should add. Because it's inappropriate and stupid. She's smarter than most idiot parents her age.

I don't hate children...I do hate spoiled, bratty children, sorry. And I think I hate their parents.

Not just children. Dogs. In NYC there's a law that says if you bring your dog on the subway it has to be able to fit in a bag and stay in it. This bitch the other day had a large dog spread out at her feet in a crowded subway car. Why? Because she's a selfish cunt. No--do I hate dogs or her dog because she's a selfish cunt? No, because she's at fault.

See how that works?

R69, thanks for agreeing with me. If parents take their kids to the movies and not attending to their needs, then yes, it's child neglect/abuse. I have seen babies at theatres with no issues. Parents tend to them appropriately.

r71 spoiled bratty kids are a different issue. Bratishness can happen anywhere.

Bad parenting 101 -

I know someone whose brother has kids and he has a rule in his household that if he can watch it his kids can. He doesn’t wanna say to them they can’t watch something he does.

You would think that means he doesn’t watch anything bad so they can’t? Nope. He lets them watch WHATEVER they want. No lie. Their 8 year old watcher anal porn on a tablet and the father and mother found it funny the questions he was asking.

Just no.

Because these women feel the incessant need to remind anyone and everyone that they're married and they gave birth, at all times 24/7. How are they teaching their kids to be considerate of others when they are not considerate of others themselves? You want to have kids? Great. You want to force any and everyone around you to go through the whole child raising process? No, you're just a self absorbed basic bitch.

To be annoying AF.

What these idiot parents are doing, r74, proves my point--allowing kids to watch porn or whatever you watch isn't healthy, it's child abuse. Some people are just too selfish and stupid to breed.

Saying no to children is also what a responsible parent does. Letting them do whatever they want is also abuse.

Im happy to see adults who actually want their kids around. Kids grow up fast and people that are really into being parents realize that and want to spend as much time as possible with them. Often when kids hit puberty and teen years they dont want their parents around so those years 1=13 are all the more precious.

Wanting to spend time with your kids is fine - forcing everyone else around you to is not.

r79, parents can just as much time with their kids at home. Did that ever occur to you?

*parents can spend just

"Bratishness can happen anywhere.

Like on Frontier Flight 1671 from PHL to MCO on Saturday, 10/27. Kid starts screaming "I want to get down" as soon as parents buckle him into seat and kid continues to scream at the top of his lungs until well after the flight is at cruising altitude. Mom gets very pissed when I give her the stink eye and calls me an asshole. "He's a 2 year old, what do you expect?"

Good Job Kayden!

This is not humble bragging--It's out and out straight bragging.. My daughter took her baby everywhere. Shopping, eating, traveling, etc. She and her husband didn't take her to the movies. Staying home and Roku is what today's couples do. She was a stay-at-home mom and had the luxury on focusing on raising a good, caring, intelligent person. She is two-and-a-half and loves to fly and knows how one behaves in public spaces. To see this little kid in a restaurant with impeccable table manners really touches my heart. This little girl interacts with the employees and has never acted up. My daughter knows that she needs to provide things to occupy the kid at times. Toddlers are naturally curious and want to and do everything! The key, I think is TALKING and interacting with your child. Yes, this takes patience. It's too bad most people who have kids don't realize this.

R69, no parent should bring an infant to a movie theater period. How sad that we’re celebrating the fact that a parent is enforcing an 8 pm curfew with a BABY.

We're not celebrating that fact. At least I'm not. I'm saying that is what is expected of parents.

For me, the issue isn’t so much bringing your children with you (tho I have to say there are some places that are NOT appropriate for children, period), it’s how your child behaves, and how you parent them -or not- that’s my issue.

Teach your children appropriate behaviour for public places - and if they act out, do yourself and everyone else a favour, give up and go home. Your children will learn from it, appreciate it when they grow up, and your friends won’t bitch and moan about you on DL.

Also, two related points: (1.) please do not take it for granted that an invitation includes your children; and (2.) don’t pitch a fit when a group won’t reschedule event times to accommodate your child’s schedule.

R74, I don't know where you live, but in NJ those parents would be charged with sexual abuse and their children removed from their home. I know because I work for NJ's child protection agency.

Sorry, R87 I missed your post at R70.

I was a sales associate in a kids clothing store during college. Time after time, day after day, we had to explain to grown educated women not to allow their children to run wild in the store. One rainy day, a particularly cuntish mom was shopping with her two toddlers. After asking for the third time to please control her children, she complained to the manager; who instead of telling her the same thing I was saying, told me to take an early lunch. While sitting in back, I heard a feral scream; one of her children plowed head first into a pregnant woman's stomach. We had to have the paramedics come and it was just so terrifying. When the regional manager got there, the first thing she asked, was if we told the parent to take control of her children. The parent obviously didn't think her children were wrong, no surprise there. But the customer sued the store and won. We all had to give sworn statements; I quit after mine. That was just irresponsible and callous of that parent. If that kid had run into a sharp object, you bet your last nickel she would have sued.

r79 = fat gunt frau

R91

Stuff like that happens all the time. It’s disgusting. I’ve had people on the team get cussed out by parents for simply asking them to have their kids stop running or throwing merchandise on the floor. On parent insisted it’s wrong to say no to kids

[quote]I think it's almost child abuse to have kids only to ignore them.

It's not "ignoring" your kids when you aren't up their asses every second. By hovering constantly, you engender the attitude that everyone owes them validation and attention, 24/7. Then they enter the community and whine when they have to wait their turns or shut the hell up.

Boredom was a great teacher in previous generations- we built and created things, read books, played outside- all without our parents filming us for Youtube. Kids today have constant feedback from their parents or the device in front of their faces. They can't tolerate any distress and lack the humility that comes from being told they need to improve instead of expecting a trophy for minimal effort. Maybe if you left them alone once in a while, they'd be able to crank out better music and movies than this current crop, because they'd have time to develop ideas without inteference.

Stop living indulgently through your children and expecting the entire world to be a preschool for them. Develop grown-up interests and challenge yourself regularly, instead of spending every second with little people who aren't experienced enough to call you on your bullshit.

This is hilarious because I was literally just discussing this earlier with my dad.

I was at Walmart last Thursday (I know, I know) at 11:00pm and the amount of elementary school age children there was disgraceful.

Due the assholes bringing their children everywhere , I have adapted by going to the movies at Alamo Drafthouse or the expensive dine-in ones at AMC.

My personal favorite experience was when I went to see The Fighter. 2 loving and responsible parents decided it was an appropriate movie to bring a young child to. Their solution was to sit him in a row 5-6 BEHIND them while they sat in their own row.

Don't even get me started on parents who bring literal infants to sporting events in the middle of hot and humid summers. Assholes.

R94, it's obvious you have never raised any decent kids. By ignoring kids I mean this: while a kid is a toddler they are literally sponges for knowledge. They can be taught just about anything if a parent is attune and interacts with them . You can teach them how to behave if you take the time.

My granddaughter at age two can sing in perfect tune, knows her numbers up to 20, and can read. At two-and-a-half is learning to play the piano, and can identify notes by ear. She can remember everything and can string good sentences. It's because her mother didn't just let her stare out in space and babble. Babies can know and pick up so much so easily. While they are littlest they have the easiest time to learn things. But you knew that.

r94, please READ fat gunt gay grampa/r96 TO FILTH.

Thank you.

If anyone ever wonders why there are so many unhappy, suicidal and bitter DLers this thread should answer your questions. What a bunch of selfish, entitled child-hating wankers.

AGAIN, put r98/r55/ fat gunt carrying frau on ignore and 1/2 the thread disappears.

I was taken to nice restaurants and movies and even B'way shows from the time I was 5 years old. I was taught to behave in public. I was taught table manners and if I absolutely had to say something at a movie or show to whisper. If I misbehaved the second I did my mother or father or both would drag me out of where we were. I learned to go to some of the best department stores in NYC and behave, never running around or off.

It's not so much that these asshole parents take the kids everywhere it's that they don't bother teaching them how to behave in various public places. There is no excuse for that. It doesn't cost money to teach your child how to behave.

I live in Ditmas Park Brooklyn and got into an argument with a table of mothers and their brats when in a nice quiet restaurant, allowed their kids to run around and scream at the top of their lungs. I told her my companion and I are here to eat in peace, and that this is not Chucky (sp?) Cheese or McDonald's play area and if their kids can't or haven't been taught to behave in a decent public place they shouldn't bring them.

They all just gave me a dirty look, but they did keep the children quieter and they stayed in their chairs. I also complained to management about why they said nothing. They comped the meal and apologized. I did let them give it to us for free because with drinks it was almost 100 dollars and we could not enjoy the food or our conversation. However I told them it wasn't their place to apologize to us it was the mom's place.

I'm sick to death of this. I wasn't the only child of my time to behave. All my friends did and were taken to nice places. There is no reason for this. The parents have to learn how to parent. They have plenty of money. I'll be one of their triple strollers cost as much as my first car. Let them hire sitters or hire a parenting coach or leave the kids in a cage with a lion tamer watching them. I don't care. They just have no right to ruin everyone's good time.

No one here hates kids. No one. We just agree there are places and times that should be ADULTS only. We shouldn’t be subjected to kids 24/7, especially if we don’t have our own.

r101, r98 is a fat gunt frau troll. Nothing more.

WTF r102, r101, r98 is right on it. It's not about not having kids in public places, it's about teaching them how to behave.

All of you saying we don't have kids are speaking for yourselves; I fucking HATE children and would be happy if isolated boarding schools were mandatory.

And dogs. I saw someone bring their dog to the movie theater this week. Seriously.

r103, do you know what a comma is?

Re-read it. Sheeeesh.

I hate how many people bring dogs into Target to shop. They aren’t even supposed to be allowed, but they always let them enter. Some even out the dogs in the carts. That’s bad.

[quote]I was at Walmart last Thursday (I know, I know) at 11:00pm and the amount of elementary school age children there was disgraceful.

I often shop at Target at around 10 PM on a weekday, and there are ALWAYS numerous small kids and babies being dragged around by their parents. The kids are crabby and crying because they're exhausted, and should have been put to bed hours before. It's especially dismaying when there are two adults with them - FFS, one of you stay home with the kids and the other one can do the shopping!

(It's total bullshit, btw, that kids cry all the time at Target but not at Walmart. Both have sufficient crying children always, at any time of the day.)

R48 nails it.

There was a child there screaming on top of his lungs for about 10 minutes straight earlier cause he wanted a toy and his mom wouldn’t buy it for him. She just kept walking ignoring his screams as if nothing. Drove me nuts.

And the parents that bring their kids to simply play with the toys, with no intention of buying any. Same with kids books. They bring them to read books, make a mess then leave.

R4 because Walmart parents will beat the shit out of their brats if they misbehave in public. Suburban yuppie target moms don't mind and will just smile and shrug their shoulders, while their kids shriek.

A lot of millennial motherhood is essentially thinly disguised self adoration and narcissism, rather than some all encompassing, self less love. Like these women who post photo after photo of themselves breastfeeding or block sidewalks with their double wide stroller. Most of these women are either lazy hoes who don't work, or worse, they do work but expect constant special treatment and time off because they are mommies now.

Slightly off topic, but I used to work in retail and never ceased to be amazed by the dynamic of wasp, American middle class suburban moms and their teenage daughters. The daughters, from about 11 or 12 on are essentially allowed to run the show. You see them in shopping malls leading the cowed mommy around by the collar demanding this and that. And the way that some of these girls talk to their own mothers is astounding. I don't see this dynamic in much in other US subcultures or even Europeans. It's like they're treated as untouchable princesses. This can't be healthy for the mother or the child. Though, I am sure many families have the same unhealthy dynamic with their sons I think daughter reverence is more common among suburban Americans.

R112 being a spoiled brat is a not a European trait. And European doesn’t even mean white. There are different types of white.

Because they think that because they are "so important" so must be their children and if anything were to happen to a child it will indefinitely be their "so important" children

or

Cheap, heimy idiots dont want to pay for a sitter and torture everyone else with their lack of desire to spend a fucking buck

It’s as if they think cause they find everything their kids do cute everyone will. We don’t.

People were complaining about this when *I* was a kid and I'm 47 damn years old. It's not Millennials. What's with the 97 threads a day about Millennials?

[quote]Many of my favorite breweries I won't even go to anymore because they are overrun with little kids

...how many breweries are you going to for this to be a recurring problem that's caused you to change your whole lifestyle?

Unlike previous generations, the grandparents won't help/babysit as they're too old, or too selfish.

@R100 I live in Ditmas Park too. Which restaurant were at, out of curiosity?

I had to stop going to my my favorite pub on Sunday afternoons, Sycamore, because all of the hip mom and dad’s converge and overrun the place. The kids run around screaming. Or the parents take a table for themselves then put their kids at another table - so in essence 1/2 the backyard tables will fill up with little Cadens and Calliopes.

I also had a mother tell me to watch my language in front of her children (in a fucking bar). Ugh.

The comment about “self-adoration” is so on the mark. Many of the parents I see absolutely beam with it. It’s fucking gross.

White people should be stopped. They’re so privileged they can’t see the issue of bringing your kids to a fucking bar.

R100 I can see you’re a Native NYer like me. Hello sir. Nice to see others FROM here and not pretending to be from here like so many wannabes are.

[quote] "[R20] I’m a millennial stupid."

Bingo.

I was out to dinner on Saturday night in Summerlin Las Vegas. The weather has been great. We were sitting outside around 9pm on the patio enjoying some wine eating our pasta when a group of 20 something girls is seated next to us. My boyfriend and I are both 38. Two of the girls have small babies that they have sitting in their laps and they appear to be celebrating a birthday. They immediately start ordering shots one after the other as they allow the babies to scream at the top of their lungs. They down shot after shot and the babies never stop screaming the entire time. To top it off the girls kept yelling “Yaaasss bitches!”. This was a nice restaurant not some dive bar and they had two very small babies with them. I’m thinking the poor babies are probably tired as it’s almost 10 why didn’t these girls come out earlier or get someone to watch the babies? Finally we left. Today I started thinking about it and wondered why the management didn’t say something to them. All of the tables around them left out of frustration. I decided to post a review on Yelp which I’ve never done before. The manager actually contacted me and is sending me a gift card and wants me to come back. Hopefully someone doesn’t decide to come back with their babies at 9pm again. That’s just wrong, I actually felt bad for the babies. It was probably past their bedtime.

This thread was very strange to me. I would never take my two little ones to a place like a bar or an erotic movie. There just kids, and mommy's margarita time is just for me and my girls. I mean my girl FRIENDS not my little ones who are two boys. It has been a long time since I have done even that though.

But even if my little ones were girls I would not take them to a bar either. I wouldn't want everyone thinking they were little floozies. Although I might take them to see 50 Shades of Gray I bet they would like it more than my husband did lol but that's not hard. I said how do you even know you hated it so much when you slept through most of it. He would not even go see the second one which was called Fifty More Shades I believe. He said how many shades can there be a thousand? So I had to go see it by myself. Maybe that is why people bring there children to these because it can be lonely to go to the movies by yourself and most husbands/boyfriends are not interested. But it is still no excuse.

I know us mommies get a bad wrap on this site which is why I do not post here very much. It is not always welcoming and sometimes I have even been called the "C" word. But I do want to let you know that not all of us are the kinds who are so irresponsible with our children to bring them to bars and erotic movies. But now that I think about it it might be nice.

[quote]heimy idiots

Fuck you, anti-Semitic jackass at R114.

Anyone who has a problem with children being children on the open is a potential murderer in my book.

Oh I see that crazy persons back

This article made datalounge a few years ago. The theater has a "no babes in arms" policy yet this millennial felt that that rule didn't apply to her or her precious miracle.

[quote] She found out the hard way not everyone is willing to welcome them everywhere they go.

R128 in Miami there is a few adults only Hotels, and I stay at those when I visit. In September I stayed at the Hotel Gaythering there, and they plaster ADULTS ONLY all over the place, including their promos and website etc.

With that they still get tons of parents showing up with their kids as if they didn’t know or thought the place would Bend the rules for them. Lmao. They learn the hard way. The hotel refuses them a room and they even sometimes throw a fit and scream discrimination but the management won’t budge. They made it clear it’s ADULTS ONLY. Booking a room then showing up with a kid thinking they’re gonna let you stay isn’t what happens. They learned the hard way

Amazing, R129. I wonder if they run to the media when they feel they've been discriminated against like the woman in R128 did?

The Wynn/Encore will not allow strollers for other than hotel guests. And no small children in many of the restaurants.

R130, not that I know of. But in September I witnessed it first hand. A woman booked a room through the internet then showed up with her baby. They told her it’s ADULTS ONLY and the baby can not stay here lol. She threw a fit and said she paid for the room so she’s entitled to it. They gladly reimbursed her and sent her on her way.

The audacity to think you’re special and the rules don’t apply to you.

I've noticed bars and pubs now have diaper changing stations in restrooms.

Kids are now indeed everywhere; not sure why but i am sure this is not going away.

Stupid question: is it possible (legal) to have adults only bars and restaurants and music venues?

R133 it should be ILLEGAL to have kids in bars, quiet nice restaurants and adult music venues where people are drinking and stuff.

R134 Agreed. Bars and pubs card adults to ensure they are 21+. But if you're 2 years old and with your parent, come on in?!?

[quote]when me and my ex went to see Magic Mike a woman in front of us had her son with her (and other women brought their very young daughters out with them for girls night).

Remind me to drag my nephew to a wet t-shirt contest.

I think some people rationalize it by tolerating parents bringing their kids everywhere because they think parents are so tired and overworked, etc that they "deserve" to go out WITH kids in tow, screw everybody else.

I think everyone deserves a good time and that's why parents need to hire babysitters.

Granted some engaged parents have well behaved, kids. Yet I seem to encounter far too many kids that have parents that either can't afford or cannot entrust babysitters and also can't admit that they don't have control over them and that it's even a problem.

Limey fat gunt fraucunt @ r126.

[quote]At a fucking beer brewery where adults are drinking, people will have little Skylar's 2nd brithday party.

Maybe someone should tell the local pd when parents are leaving the brewery with kids strapped in the car.

[quote]Anyone who has a problem with children being children on the open is a potential murderer in my book.

Like people who put animals... (NOT sapient) before homo sapiens.

Or /people/ who touch other /people/ without their permission.

I wish I had a nickel for every wedding or funeral that has been hijacked or ruined by some squalling or attention seeking brat. Last summer at a wedding, just as the soprano launched into a beautiful rendition of "Ave Maria", a newborn began squalling its head off. Despite the fact that the church had a "cry room" for babies, the idiot cunt mother decided to remain in the church, ignoring the dirty looks the bride's mother kept shooting her fro the front, thus ruining the entire moment. At another wedding some 2 or 3 year old monster began yelling the bride's name as she came down the aisle, yelling "Stacey! STACEY!" He was actually standing at the end of the aisle and would have rushed out of the row had not his ignorant cracker father held him back, even though he continued to yell out the bride's name.

And let's not get started on their behavior at receptions.

R88 "please do not take it for granted that an invitation includes your children" - this drives me nuts as well. I worked at a small startup company several years ago, and any time we would schedule an off site work meeting at a local restaurant, my one co-worker would show up with ALL her kids AND her husband, more or less to score a free meal on the companies dime. Our owner finally had to tell her to knock it off.

When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, I remember seeing kids at all kinds of places. And I remember seeing angry-looking parents dragging--or carrying--their whining/crying kids out of movie theaters, grocery stores, church sermons, graduation ceremonies to discipline the kid and to avoid further disruption to the public environment. (Above, discipline didn't necessarily mean a spanking. It could be a time-out or a talking-to.)

The difference today is: just like in the past, people take their kids everywhere, but when the kids start acting up, the parent refuses to remove the kid, and sometimes the parent doesn't even try to correct the kid's behavior. And God help you if you ask someone else's kid to be quiet or stop running. Their parents will be UPSET. Basically people have the "me, me, me" attitude that "I PAID to be here, so my kid and I can do whatever we want."

OMG, I thought I was the only one who always heard children crying at Target. It happens every time, whether I am there on a weekday morning, weekday night, or weekend afternoon. There is always a child whining or crying. Stores should have "adults only" hours.

R145, that's why I would often do much of my grocery shopping really late at night at stores that stayed open 24 hours.

I do the same thing, R146. I usually grocery shop on a Tuesday or Thursday night 30 minutes before the store closes. In and out, no fuss. But, Target isn't open 24 hours and there are a few things I prefer to buy there. I often go to Target on a weeknight at 9:30 PM and there is at least one child, always having some sort of fit while the parent completely ignores them.

[quote]One odd thing: here in NY, it is not uncommon to see very little kids with their parents, the kids in some costume, usually super-hero but also cowboy, Link (from The Legend Of Zelda), and something original. It's usually boys rather than girls. And they're always very well-behaved, quiet and curious and just watching everything. No runn ing around or screaming.

I think this is very sweet.

My issue is with the damn tank strollers of today. Being a mother is not a disability you mommy frau; don’t bring your double wide on the bus and roll it into the wheelchair area THEN take seats effectively removing 6 spots from the bus.

Fold that shit and carry your brat on your lap.

You would think once the kids went back to school in the fall that they wouldn't be around as much during the day, but no - they're still everywhere.

Why aren't these kids in school anymore?

Datalounge is a place populated by women haters and now children haters. If you weren't gay I'm positive you'd be an incel ready to bomb a church or shoot a school. Something tells me some of you didn't do it yet because you're too weak and not man enough to do it. We'll see.

R151 To be fair most posters on this thread are not kid haters.

We are making a reasonable request: be mindful of your kids' bedtimes and employ babysitters so that your young children are NOT overwhelmed and overtired in adult spaces: pubs, bars, nice restaurants, movies and concert venues.

R149 the entitlement is appalling. Remember all that brouhaha over that blonde Argentinian woman who was reprimanded by a flight attendant for not folding her stroller properly or something. It turns out she was TOLD repeatedly not to do this but thought the rules just didn't apply to her. So she shed some crocodile "damsel in distress " tears and some red faced white knight inserted himself into the situation and started raging at that poor flight attendant who was simply doing his job. It was absolutely fucking ridiculous how that male flight attendant was villainized, all because some entitled Frau wanted to pull a fast one.

R150 that’s a fact. I am retail manager and there are kids here all day. No lie. And not just babies with mom or dad, I mean like 8 year olds running around at 11am on a Monday morning. What happened to school???

R5/R20/R21/R23/R33/R39/R44/R51/r98/r126 /r151 = unhinged bio polar limey fat gunt fraucunt mental case

R119 "I had a mother tell me to watch my language.. In a bar ". The absolute level of entitlement is appalling. But the way the media placates these women is part of the problem. There is a certain type of solidly middle class to affluent "Frau mommy " that businesses are terrified of offending. If these women are criticized even mildly, or asked to follow the same rules of decorum as everyone else, they will go wailing to the media about being "mommy shamed ". The media will pester the business until they publicly apologize and gift the woman, and her brats ,with a 100 dollar gift certificate.

New Russian family in the complex. Squalling brat who screams at the top of her lungs at the pool. Mother who ignores her. And as R150 said, why isn't it in school now?

r39 no, we didn't have terrible childhoods. We had *structured* childhoods. We knew who was the parent and who was the child. Mommy and Daddy weren't overbearing and idiotic about scheduling playdates and stupid ass nonsense like that. We made our own damn friends. We actually had to (don't shit your pull-ups) *make our own friends*. I know - the humanity oh the humanity. We played sports with the kids on the same street with no adult planning or intervention. When new crotchfruit appeared, guess what? we became babysitters - not just for our own brothers and sisters, but for the neighbors, too. Even at 5, I was capable of changing a diaper and warming a bottle. We weren't infantilized and coddled. By 7, I could make breakfast for my brothers and sisters. By 10, I could cook. Yes, *cook* on the damn stove. I could make breakfast and bake cakes without adult supervision.

You whiny ass millennials cry so damn much about everything, The whole world is an imposition and at the same time, the whole world owes you. You're children having children and still acting like entitled children.

R158 I also cooked breakfast and stuff on the stove by 7 or 8. And this was the mid 90s. My mom didn’t coddle me at all and I had chores etc. my sisters didn’t though. Brats. Lol. But they were always well behaved and still are good people that know how to act. For the most part. My youngest sister likes to talk in movie theaters. Drives me nuts.

However my mom has an 8 year old (he clearly came much later as a shock) and she’s raising him to do whatever he wants and doesn’t correct him too much. I don’t know if age has softened her but she’s not the same as she was with us where we knew not to act up. He’s very spoiled.

R158 another cultural change I have noticed is that parents used to have friends and social events of their own, independent of their children. I see that less and less nowadays. Now everything is family centric.

r126 You sound off your rocker! Last time I checked drinking alcohol in Bars and watching erotic movies like 50 Shades is not children being children. Even at home, you are not really supposed to give your children very much alcohol, except just before bed to help them sleep. My husband once gave my boys a beer and they became very rowdy and were even cursing like sailors, I don't even know where they learned some of the words they said. Yes it sounds cute but it was really not. Especially when they kept falling down and bumping their head. I told my husband Never Again. I don't know what he was thinking doing that in the first place.

Maybe its because I am not in a place like New York City but I do not understand this attitude of thinking children should be out drinking. I know it can be lonely to go to bars alone but are small children like toddlers really the best companians? Lots of times they can't even really talk very well. Especially after a few cocktails lol. That's just bad parenting. If you need to get out and relax then just go by yourself, maybe you'll meet someone interesting. Hey everyone has a story right? And you are not going to meet anyone if your sitting there with two drunk babies.

Each parent is different and I am not judging but that's just my 2 cents. As for r126 you make me sick to my stomach!

[quote]Even at home, you are not really supposed to give your children very much alcohol, except just before bed to help them sleep. My husband once gave my boys a beer and they became very rowdy and were even cursing like sailors, I don't even know where they learned some of the words they said. Yes it sounds cute but it was really not. Especially when they kept falling down and bumping their head. I told my husband Never Again. I don't know what he was thinking doing that in the first place.

This has got to be a fucking parody post.

I love watching Millenials and their unruly kids. They swear they know it all and did better then their parents/grandparents. Then you see the little entitled shyyts getting owned by their bad ass children and its hilarious. Dear Millenials. ...you are now officially your parents....hyper,crazy,belt beating and opinionated. Welcome to adulthood.....

Laugh at them OP,their adventure is just starting. Wait til their entitled kids grow up and give them what the little snots gave us....additude and that annoying "I was just born yesterday but know it all"act.Then the party will really begin.

R154, If I had to guess, they're being "home schooled", by a mother with no qualifications to do so or any sort of degree in education...

These kids these days are some of the worst.

This thread accomplished the hard task to surpass the whine of millennials. Congratulations.

See r155 for the identity of r166.

Take your meds and go get laid R167. I've written four of the comments in that list of yours. Did I write them only to stir shit up and see idiots like you whine like bitches? Yes I did. Did I write all of them, definitely not. I guess I was right and you are a lonely sad fuck whose mommy didn't like you and you grew up to be a paranoid freak. :)

r168, add 10 more you've written, hon. You do know how the DL works, right? You must be a newbie, dear.

Oh and YOU telling someone to "take their meds?" Now that's rich, sweetie.

R161 - are you familiar with Dina Martina? Are you Dina Martina? Lol

I didn't say you shouldn't interact meaningfully with your children, r96, but you knew that.

To my supporters- trolls aren't worth the effort of a nuanced response, as they have a vested interest in stirring up more shit. Stop feeding them with multiple replies to their calculated idiocy.

R168 is trying soooooo hard to get people riled up, it's almost amusing.

Almost, but not quite.

Try learning from a master like R161, hon. Until then, please do fuck off.

They want their kids to be as cool as they are. I've known some millennial parents who brag that their toddler knows who Johnny Cash is.

I think it's also an upwardly striving middle class thing to treat children as small adults and has been for decades. My parents were the kind of parents (both my parents were Silent Generation) who take their children to inappropriate activities and events. Lucky for them, I was a quiet, mostly well-behaved child. But maybe if I wasn't, they would have hired a babysitter more often.

I'm with r169. LMFAO!

Because they know the entire world already loves their little Madylehn and Roenin and can't bear the though of anyone being denied the chance to show that love.

I've got a friend with 2 young kids, and she formed a group of other mothers who switch off sitting duties. Not all millennials want to be with their kids 24/7.

R74 And why the fuck didn't you call CPS!?

R177 I don’t know him. It’s someone I knows sibling. They don’t even live in the same state as me.

It would be wrong to say that I hate kids. I don't. I do hate their parents. Most of them are shit and the whole world would have been better off had they not bred.

Remember, every time you see a breeder, you are looking at failure.

All week at work there were kids running around at like 11am. Do these little brats not have to go to school???

[quote] Why do Millenials bring their kids EVERYWHERE with them?!

Oh, dear.

Jesus fuck. We weren't even allowed in the living room when my parents had other adults over. "Go outside and play or go to bed."

To be honest there is a huge class element to overindulgent parenting. Upper middle class ,educated types act like their offspring are beautiful little gifts that they have given to the world. Spend some time in a place like Georgetown DC or Bethesda /chevy chase and you see firsthand the over the top, loud praise and indulgence. And the lack of consideration for anyone who isn't their brat. This is during the weekends of course. Monday through Friday those Ivf created little miracles are at the park with their fillipina nanny.

^^I've noticed similar.

My trashy but UMC/rich managers are a Boomer married couple with a Millennial daughter the same age as me, who recently got knocked up by some dude in Thailand and ended up with a biracial baby out of the blue that her parents didn't even know about. The second my managers found out (and I don't know how they did) they were on a plane to drag this girls' ass back home against her will with her newborn, to live in their fucking basement or something. How they pulled this off without someone alerting authorities, I don't know (can someone kidnap their own adult kid?). The weirder part is that this girl already had a 3y.o. son by some other local guy, and she just left this first son of hers with my managers like he's a puppy she didn't want anymore.

Every other weekend my managers' daughter drops in to my store with her baby to see me (she doesn't work), usually with a latte and glossy Vogue in one hand and a baby in the other, and bitches about how bored she is with her life and how much she hates her parents for a good twenty minutes before Daddy's assistant pulls up in a new Range (with the expensive stroller in the back) to pick her up and take her back to her plush prison (their house is a McMansion from what I can tell). I have no idea what to make of any of it, and I just feel so sorry for those poor fucking babies. I don't know who is the bigger scumbag in this whole creepy scenario.

I'm from LC/LMC stock and I can't imagine being comfortable having a kid without knowing I had work or a steady income of my own, plus a family unit to help raise it (not necessarily a nuclear/trad one, though - those can be the most poisonous....). Being financially-hostage to my parents is not a good tradeoff, even if/when I want a baby. I'd rather wait til my 30s/40s and foster or date a girl who already has kids, or something.

R183 in NYC you don’t see Filipina nannies much. It’s mainly black nannies or Hispanic. I actually get upset seeing all these black women pushing little white babies around. I feel like it’s the age of “The Help” all over again and the only well paying job a lot of these black women can get is raising white peoples kids for them. Honestly bothers me.

I had a white mom come into my store during back to school time with her twin 6 year old sons and Mexican nanny. Those two kids were a nightmare and the mother even worse. She let her kids do whatever they wanted, including throw everything on the floor and open crayons and color on the floor. They ran screaming and kicking people. No lie. When we asked her to control her kids she snapped at us how they were just being “cool” boys and not to speak to her boys. She also held one of my employees hostage helping her pick out book bags for over an hour. OVER AN HOUR. FOR. A. BOOKBAG.

She demanded it be the coolest book bags cause her sons were “cool” boys and not losers. They were also private schooled. No lie she kept on reminding them they are cool boys. Not losers like so many other kids.

The nanny had to chase around the boys and if the boys didn’t wanna stop the mother would scold the nanny for daring to try and say anything to her COOL boys. The nanny also had to carry all the bags etc. I felt so bad for her. Me and my colleague kept looking at each other wanting to go off on her and her two brats. I legit was biting my tongue.

If her boys behaved they would be the cutest kids ever. Little blonde, blue eyed boys that will be heartbreakers one day. Too bad they’re like demons that won’t listen to anyone.

Also witnessed a white mom going off on one of her spoiled kids cause she saw her talking to a black kid. “I didn’t move us here so you can associate with those people. I brought us here to get you out of that habit!”

Who the fuck moves to Brooklyn NY to get far away from black people? This goes to show you that this city is lying to people now if they think it’s all white. They must have taken the background of “The Intern” literal.

R184 Yuck, what an entitled brat. I wonder if she convinces herself that it's OK not to work because she's a "mommy " and that's the "hardest job in the world ", never mind she's not actually taking care of her kids. Lol

R185 I just have to laugh at these rich mothers who need a nanny even when they themselves are fucking present. It's ridiculous. And if those boys are bad now I shudder to think about what they will become as adults, probably little Trumps in training.

Where I live it's the same as r183 and r184 but half of them are Chinese 1st and 2nd generation.

R188, I said the same thing. They were nightmares and mom kept on letting them do whatever they pleased and God forbid anyone say anything to her “cool” boys. Imagine the superiority complex they will have by age 10 yet alone adulthood.

R188 they will also be incredibly classist etc. I can assure you that. And only wanna be with “cool” people like them.

This thread is making me seriously concerned about the future. They’re raising entitled future sociopaths, rapists and murderers.

R192 lmfao sociopaths 100%. Rapists? Maybe. Murderers? Idk.

R185, I don't know the law but I wondered as a business person if you do. Did you have the right to call the police to report this disturbance in your store and the physical assault against some of your customers? If you do you should have. If you don't the law needs to be changed. My guess is if you and other like minded business people got together you could get a law passed.

No one has the right to destroy your stock and hurt other customers. I'm sure you don't care about losing this woman and her monsters or those like her as customers so what would you have to lose to call the cops on her if that's legal?

If this mother wasn't allowed to bring her monsters into any stores in the neighborhood maybe it would give her a clue that she sucks as a mother and her monsters are not cute, they are criminals.

R194 I'm not r185 but trust me when I say that would be a BAD idea. There is a certain type of upper middle class to affluent Frau mommy that businesses are terrified of offending. Why? Because they will go running hysterically to the media claiming that they have been "mommy shamed ". The local, and sometimes national media, will pester the business until they apologize. Remember that male flight attendant who dared to reprimand the precious rich Frau for not following the airlines rules? He was pilloried. Women like that know how to play the system and the media is always sympathetic.

R194 it’s better to ask the parents to get their kids to stop and not get Police involved. Especially cause it’s 6 year olds so they won’t even take it too seriously here.

Also I don’t need the drama. She was a wealthy entitled snob that would have probably loved to make a big complaint about my brown ass.

So if it was a poor black or Hispanic woman with kids running wild you wouldn't think twice about asking the to leave at the very least. That is sad and a shame and why these rich bitches get away with it and it will only get worse. What a gutless world we live in. The rich have the rest of us living in fear. Nice.

R197 I’ve never asked anyone with a child to leave. I ask them to stop their kid and keep them under control. Most of the black and Hispanic parents (especially the Hispanic) will apologize and stop their kids on the spot. Some of the white patents do to but it’s less likely. Sometimes they’re just nasty.

About 3 weeks ago I had a young White yuppie couple in the store and their (I assume one year old cause he couldn’t even really speak and was small) was walking and taking all the coloring books and throwing them on the floor. He’s tiny. I don’t blame him. Little kids grab everything and get into everything. I blame his young yuppie parents that literally just stood there watching him and laughing, thinking it was so cute. I asked the dad to please stop his son and he told me “he’s just a baby” and dismissed me. It was the mom who then apologized and said “let’s go”. They put him in his carriage and walked away and left all the coloring books on the floor.

"Most of the black and Hispanic parents"

LOL

My cousin had 2 obnoxious,whiney brats that no one liked to be around . Vile little spoiled bitches from the word go. They were allowed to do anything they wanted,anywhere they wanted with zero repercussions. Those rotten little bitches are now 21 and 16,and are 2 of the best kids youd ever want to meet. The oldest is studying to be an emergency room nurse and the younger one is a competitive gymnast. You just never know how a kid will turn out. Also,my cousin wasnt a great beauty,but she had style,and both girls were ugly little things,but they both are beautiful now!

R199 yes????

Today I went to Wal-Mart with my 76 year old father who can barely walk. This was in New Castle, PA. Not only was it a Hills Have Eyes freakshow to begin with, but in particular, this neurotic sociopath of a basic frumpy ass bitch kept following us up and down every god damn aisle with her window lickers in tow. Her petulant brat of a son kept faking a "cough" and she kept yapping at the top of her lungs about any and everything going on in her life. Why do these fucking women feel the need to be such obnoxious attention whores? Shut the fuck up!

Today at work I had this white woman with her two sons there and this Spanish guy ended up telling her about herself as a parent cause her sons were throwing shit everywhere and things hit him so he told her something and she got upset and they got into an argument. He eventually walked away and she followed him and he told her “don’t have no more kids” and she screamed “FUCK YOU! MIND YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS!” and then began crying and ran to an employee saying that the man is harassing her, attacking her, being aggressive and she feels unsafe and she got security to deal with him. So of course they call me over and I had to deal with this. Issue is there were witnesses and all of them defended him saying her kids were being rowdy and she was saying nothing then when the man said something she went off.

Well she turned on the waterworks and made it a big deal about how she doesn’t feel safe until he’s arrested and we said he won’t be arrested, no threats or assaults were done and HE ALREADY LEFT.

She drove me nuts. So to anyone that wonders why some are scared to say anything to these moms (mainly the white ones) this is why.

R203 yep. And the worst thing is when they run to social media, which inevitably gets picked up by the dimwit mainstream media, who just love white knighting for rich fraus. I can see the Huffington Post headline already " Social Media Outrage After Mom Publicly Shamed At Bookstore ". The irony is the media couldn't care less about the less privileged classes of people who really do get publicly humiliated or bothered.

Are you saying colored women have better behaved children? Cause that's a laugh.

R204 she deserved it. But of course I couldn’t say that. But she sure played up the victim role really well. “I feel threatened. I don’t feel safe. He was aggressive.” Oh stfu.

R205 colored? What year are you in? Cause I’m in 2018. Not 1960.

And black kids can be rowdy without the entitlement to back it up many times. And many times if I say something to the mom they get pissed at the kid. The white moms don’t want you saying ANYTHING to their precious little Billy and Becky.

[quote] "I feel threatened. I don’t feel safe."

Oh, I'm sure Twat-Mom did feel threatened. She felt threatened because someone failed to validate her parenting style and her decision to shit out filth-brats. Twat-moms should be kicked in the vagina bone. She brings no value and neither will her children.

Look how salty R207 gets when someone else brings race into it.

lol, r182.

I'll never forget, as a child, and for exactly two seconds, trying to listen in and talk to adults at a family party (aunts, uncles, older adult cousins) who were inside the house.

The children were all outside playing in warm summer weather, but, I was nosy about what the adults were doing and talking about.

With her fingers in a firm grip on my little upper arm, my mother marched me to the door and told me in her unmistakable quiet yet commanding voice, "You are not to presume you may join in adult conversation. Stay outside and play."

Well done, Mom. You reinforced the authority of adults and, at the same time, let me know that I was NOT THEIR PEER.

What the hell has happened to parenting these days?

It was a rare, exciting event to go to a department store, especially at Christmastime. The law was laid down by our parents. No running. No touching items. No speaking to store clerks.

I think it was a Ben Franklin Store or Sears. Anyway, I became mesmerized by a figurine of a reindeer. Without realizing it, I reached my little hand towards it. Suddenly, I heard a "Hmm-hmm". I looked up at Mom looking back at me deploying the parental death store. in an instant, my hand was back at my side.

When we got home, Mom had me open a little white bag. Inside was that cheap little plastic figurine of the reindeer I was reaching for.

My parents were working class. They didn't have a lot of money, but the gave us discipline, boundaries, and structure. And they provided for me and my siblings magical Christmas mornings.

I am off work today so I came to the movies early and there are legit kids running around everywhere like this is a fucking Park. Outside the doors there are kids everywhere running and screaming. You can hear them through the doors as the movies playing. That’s how loud they are. It’s insane.

And as to no shock to myself, it’s all white people. The entitlement and self importance never seizes to amaze me.

Because our parents, people like you OP, complained non-stop about their narsassistic mothers. Now that we are parents, we are overcompensating so that our children avoid that feeling of neglect. Plus, you started the “children are your friend” craze that is enhanced in my millennial generation.

"my millennial generation" Pfffttt my fat Aunt Harriet.

Aunt Harriet never like you, she told me so on her death bed.

R212 I am a Millenial myself fool. I’m not the previous generation. I’m 31. Too young to be your parents.

Well, that won’t stop me from calling you daddy 😉

It's like the dumb cunts who bring their dogs everywhere. Your dog and/or your child do not want to spend hour after hour in adult restaurants, adult parties, adult shopping and other activities not interesting to children and dogs. Take them places where it is appropriate, otherwise leave them at home or - shocker - stay home with them.

Also, lose the giant strollertanks unless there aren't space constraints or lots of people. Only selfish, entitled cunts inflict them on everyone, everywhere. That goes for the kids too.

This is Boinko. Kaden's fur brother.

Your story brought a tear to my eye, R210.

You're Welcome, r219.

Have a serene Holidays Season and a Peaceful New Year.

R210 Great story. As an adult I find myself struggling with maintaining discipline, boundaries and structure. Pathetic. How do I get back on track?

I know all parents to be are not this entitled but this is tragic:

I don't mind kids in kid-friendly environments, but i hate going to the movies when it is something entirely inappropriate only to see people there will preschool kids.

Traumatising to the kids and annoying to the audience once they start shrieking and are inevitably unremoved.

R210, beautiful story Della.. thanks!

Oh for fuck's sake Della, your story wasn't that great.

Great story, Della.

"Take," not bring.

Della. ...that story is beautiful

A woman had her newborn at Bohemian Rhapsody and the baby was screaming and she kept rocking the baby instead of leaving the rest of us to enjoy the film.

The movie was probably too loud for that little baby.

It recently occurred to me that almost all parents of elementary age children are millennials. I don't know why but I find that unsettling!

"It recently occurred to me that I could say something boring and dumb when bumping an old trollbait thread."

There is nothing trollbait about this thread. It’s honest.

And do kids no longer have school? I see kids with their parents everyday during school hours. And not small children.

[R232]

Me too,I think the new breed of parents dosen't care about their kids attendance issues.....

R233 it’s insane.

I am an exec for a retail Corp. and it’s been bad lately. I’m from Brooklyn and in the past the store got a lot of black people mainly. Now it’s a lot of everyone.

When it was the black people mostly you would hardly see any kids there during school hours unless very small. Now you see these white moms and Hispanic moms with their kids at noon on a Wednesday. Wtf? Or the nanny with the kids. Like why aren’t they in school?

Almost cursed a couple out earlier with their awful kid

r232 lot of people are starting to get disillusioned with public schooling and homeschooling their kids. It's the housewives that do nothing that are bringing kids everywhere

Crying babies at a movie or loud children at a movie? I always tell the parents to leave as it's spoiling everyone else's enjoyment of the movie. If they won't, I go to the manager and demand my money back. Back in the day, the theater managers would ask people like that to leave. Nowadays, most theater managers just give you your money back because they don't want to deal with the inevitable scene with the spoiled parent.

I went with my best friend to see It at the theater. We took the afternoon off from work to see a weekday matinee figuring it wouldn't be very crowded. It wasn't, but some dipshit Millennial mommy came in and sat right near us despite a mostly open theater. She had her very young son, who had to be only around 4 or 5. I looked at her quizzically when she came in and she saw me. She yelled, "What?!" I just said I didn't think it was wise to bring such a young child to a movie that is supposed to be frightening. She barked at me to mind my own business, that she knew what her child could handle. It didn't take much more than the first scary scene to have the kid balling and saying he was scared and he wanted to go. She got up, clearly frustrated, and looked over at me. I just said, "Maybe you'll listen to strangers more often?" She left in a huff carrying the screaming little boy out of the theater. What an idiot.

r237,

It's not just millenials. A fee years ago, I saw a nationally known CBS news anchor come into a shop I frequent. One of her clutzy brats knocked over and broke an item and she didn't even offer to pay. And this overpaid cunt definitely could afford it. Funny because I always got a cunt vibe from her on TV, I guess I was right.

R239 here. I meant to write few, not fee.

Forgot to add the newsanchors name rhymes with Whorah O Connell.

Probably because both parents work and family time is limited so even social/free time (what little there is, if you aren’t a single, gay man) is spent with children coming along. So many children spend most waking hours at school or daycares, time with parents and family is quite a novelty.

I've noticed it more and more the last 8 or 9 years where I work (waiter at a very high-end place for 13 or 14 years). More parents bringing their kids along (and it is NOT a kid-friendly place, I imagine most kids would be bored out of their minds there). Well, not only do they bring their children along, but they sometimes let the little darlings run rampant. Kids have actually run into me while I'm carrying heavy trays a few times, and rarely do either parent even chide the child, let alone apologize. I'd guess it has a lot to do with social media (everyone ranting about their special relationship with their beaming, adorable offspring) and reality TV, which seems to encourage people to not give a shit. And I don't dislike kids, either. I fully blame the parents. Why don't they take them to some Chuck E cheese type place, or McDonald's? Are they proving to their online friends that they're better, more involved parents because they take their kids to a fancy joint?

I hope it was a sleeping baby at 50 Shades of Grey or an EST.

Double wide strollers are the worst. I wish the law would mandate smaller strollers. How fucking big are these babies?

R239 r241 Not surprised. Norah O Donnell seems like a major bitch.

Most of the kids are shit and their parents are even worse.

When you see a breeder, remember that you are looking at failure.

The mothers treat their daughters like princesses because they are reliving their unpopular years and trying to fix the problems they believe held them back from sitting with the cheerleaders and prom queens. The mothers think they can ward off the pain their daughters feel while sashaying in the reflected glory. They treat their sons like princes because they don’t understand boys but want to look like cool moms

R245

It's not the babies' size; it's how many there are. If you have more than one kid under the age of 3, you need the doublewide. I assume women who bred early and often pre-doublewide era just didn't leave the house.

My sister had four kids in four years, and the whole gang going out in public required two doublewides if on foot. Driving required an enormous SUV that still only had room for four car seats in back and two adults in front. If I were going somewhere with the gang, I had to arrange my own transportation unless I wanted to ride in the trunk. Hilariously, my sister was a stay-at-home mother but, at the height of her breeding prowess, had *two* nannies.

R248 To be honest, I have seen that princess dynamic a bit more often with women who were former popular /queen bee types themselves. But I agree on the reflected glory. I have noticed many parents, both moms and dads, who seem to get off on the attention that having a pretty teenage daughter brings. It's like a status symbol.

What the fuck happened to good old fashioned childless yuppies? You know the straight couples who were career focused, somewhat reserved, and usually had a few cute pups in lieu of kids. Now every metropolitan area seems to be full of upper middle class breeders who act like their kids are gifts to the universe. Even a lot of gays are getting in on the whole baby thing. I feel like less and less people are childless now compared to say, 20 years ago.

R251 I always say that! Why does EVERYONE have a kid suddenly? Geez.

I've read that heir are more childless couples now, but my guess is that the brash ones with kids have become so obnoxious that it's all you notice. The normal, childfree ones are basically invisible.

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R253 The number of childfree (some prefer to be called childless) couples and singles in the US is now over 20% of the US population, which is higher than ever.

I agree that it seems less since some kids and their parents seem louder and more aggressive.

I've noticed both the far right and the far left are home schooling their kids because of school shootings, bullying and wanting to have control over what their kids are taught. Granted this is still a small percentage of the kid population.

I was at a bar yesterday, not a kid friendly one, a 100% pure bar that sells nothing but alcohol, and a couple came in with their kid that wouldn’t stop screaming and crying. It was ridiculous. Even the bartender looked annoyed.

Why do they bring babies and screaming infants to funerals? The height of disrespect the the deceased's family.

A funeral idk about but a bar is somewhere they have no business being. It’s adults drinking but someone needs to bring a kid in. Ridiculous

Well, it used to be that people lived near their relatives or parents, who would help babysit without expecting payment. our society has changed so that parents have to pay for a sitter or drop in daycare in order to get anything done alone outside school/daycare hours.

R260 And?

So what, R260? No one is forcing people to have children. Hiring a babysitter is not a ludicrous expense that is only available to super rich people. I don't want to be at an upscale restaurant and hear babies crying or toddlers being disruptive. I recently went to a dinner party for which the invite clearly stated "Adults Only". I loved that. I imagine it was because, a few years ago, that same couple hosted a dinner party for six couples and three of them brought their children. An hour into the party, the children were crying, screaming, and adult conversation became impossible when, every five or ten minutes, someone was getting up because they heard crying or a kid would come up and interrupt.

well ok, they are entitled and too cheap or poor or self centered to pay 20-40 bucks for a sitter. easy answer.

$20-40 R263 ? What era are you typing from?

[quote]Why do Millenials bring their kids EVERYWHERE with them?!

They're too cheap to pay for a sitter.

When a frau crashes into you with a double stroller, it's the bitch not the children.

Target, Walmart, it's the prequel to the handmaid's tale in there.

Sometimes I feel like breeders deserve a Holocaust.

R267 If they continue to refuse vaccines, they will make their very own little Holocaust .

Because their children is the only redeemable quality about them.

You can't even go to bars without kids being there now.

Yesterday at the supermarket, a little girl sitting in her mom's shopping cart kept yelling in a high screechy voice -- not about anything, just making noise for its own sake -- the mother paid no attention and just did her shopping. I looked the kid straight in the eye and scowled -- she shut up immediately, didn't cry, just stopped yelling and stared at me. Sometimes it works.

It's not just millennials, I watched boomers do the same thing.

People of every generation think they invented parenting and they'll do it better.

They all do it about the same. Some bad. Some good, most of them end up at mediocre.