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HBO's "Oz"

I just picked up the complete series at Wal-Mart for $39, which I thought was a steal. It's running for $100+ on Amazon.

This has got to be one of HBO's peak shows. Fantastic writing, brilliant performances, infinitely relevant. And wonderfully gay.

Any fans?

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by Anonymousreply 17211/21/2020

It was good for a while, the writing got progressively dumber as it went on though.

by Anonymousreply 111/02/2018

Still, R1, they did a fantastic job of sustaining the main storylines and the integrity of each character.

I loved it from start to finish. This will be my third rewatch.

I haven't seen it in 3-4 years.

by Anonymousreply 211/02/2018

Also, the amount of beautiful ass on display is a bit overwhelming at times.

by Anonymousreply 311/02/2018

R3, don’t forget the tinymeat.

by Anonymousreply 411/02/2018

R4 I'll never underestimate a grower ;)

by Anonymousreply 511/02/2018

So much nudity. I don't think there was a single inch of Chris Meloni we didn't see except maybe for his spleen.

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by Anonymousreply 611/02/2018

Yeah "Oz" had more male nudity than any show that has been on American TV. Weird that it is old now, but no HBO show in the years since has been willing to match them.

by Anonymousreply 711/02/2018

I love how they dealt with the love story. Heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 811/02/2018

You can watch the entire series on Amazon Prime Video. There is no need to buy DVD's.

by Anonymousreply 911/02/2018

Oh wow, OP, I remember paying 40 bucks a season when I bought it so long ago. And how weird, I just remembered that Tobias Beecher was in my dream last night! Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 1011/02/2018

R9 I do stream mostly everything, but like to own hard copies of my favorite films and shows. I've always wanted to buy this one.

R10 Yeah, pricing is definitely what took me so long to buy the series. When I saw it for so cheap, I had to snatch it up.

It's an extremely underrated and overlooked show, imo. It can be said to be hugely responsible for the shift in premium cable shows. The tone, the sex, the violence, the cinematic quality of it all - it's influenced everything from The Sopranos to American Horror Story.

by Anonymousreply 1111/02/2018

Agreed r11, and everything else is just "Oz" in a different time and place. "Deadwood" is old west "Oz", GOT is medieval "Oz" and none of them come close.

by Anonymousreply 1211/02/2018

R12 HBO should consider rebooting it.

by Anonymousreply 1311/02/2018

With all the gay sex going on in that show were there any actual gay actors in the cast?

by Anonymousreply 1411/02/2018

It was insanely unbelievable. In the last season, a character's non-inmate father, a respectable and wealthy member of his community, visited his inmate son in prison and was violently killed by the inmate's enemies when they (inplausibly) got him alone, and yet there were absolutely no consequences, no news story about the killing, nothing. In real life, such an event would be the top story of the national news for days and would have triggered an enormous inquiry into the prison's workings; not on OZ.

by Anonymousreply 1511/02/2018

Loved it. Would enjoy seeing if it stands the test of time.

by Anonymousreply 1611/02/2018

[quote] GOT is medieval "Oz"

Sorry.

George R. R. Martin started writing "A Game of Thrones" in 1991, and published that novel in 1996. The show's first season is incredibly faithful to the first book.

"Oz" the TV series premiered in 1997.

by Anonymousreply 1711/02/2018

Yeah, I think because it was the first attempt at "prestige" television people overlooked a lot r15. A lot of the writing was pretty silly, and if the same plots happened nowadays people would be bitching about it.

by Anonymousreply 1811/02/2018

Yes r15, it wasn't as true to life as "Westworld" or "GOT" but we know to suspend our disbelief when we watch fictional cable shows.

by Anonymousreply 1911/02/2018

Christopher Meloni is definition of sex in this.

God, how I dreamt of riding his cock for hours.

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by Anonymousreply 2011/02/2018

"Oz" was like a prison based "Twilight Zone". Sure, a lot of it is implausible, but nonetheless poignant and effective.

by Anonymousreply 2111/02/2018

$39! That's about 50 cents per dick shot!

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by Anonymousreply 2211/02/2018

R22 lol. It's totally worth it, too. I'm watching episode three now as I peruse DL and I keep forgetting about my phone and getting sucked into the show.

by Anonymousreply 2311/02/2018

R6 he's so fucking hot.

by Anonymousreply 2411/02/2018

Great show. I think Vern Schillinger was the be all, end all of scary. Such a wonderful cast.

by Anonymousreply 2511/02/2018

Rita Moreno was amazing in this, too.

I loved the grace and sense of spirituality she brought to the grit and brawn.

by Anonymousreply 2611/02/2018

They could never replace the actors on OZ in a reboot, I am remembering Wangler, who I thought was so hot, on "The Wire" and a bunch of other people from "The Wire". Shit even Dana Reeve was on it as the governor's assistant or something? Kathryn Erbe, Edie Falco, etc. I think it was supposed to be some kind of launching point for the guy who played Miguel as he was always touted as the star, later he did a show called "Black Irish" or something and it tanked. Oh and Luiz Guzman was great on it, and Dean Winters! That show is great, OP, I envy you. I watched a bunch of it a few years back. Oh and Vern Schillinger, funny that he and Ryan O' Reilly now both are insurance spokespeople.

by Anonymousreply 2711/02/2018

R22 Damn. That's a hot cock.

This show is EVERYTHING.

by Anonymousreply 2811/02/2018

Fucking loved it, worst storyline was the aging drug to speed up your incarceration.

Best was all the rest, Gods I LOVE this show

by Anonymousreply 2911/02/2018

Oz reminds me of DL a bit, lol.

A bunch of horny, lovable ruthless cunts.

by Anonymousreply 3011/02/2018

I remember when Adebisi injected the old Italian gangster with an Aids needle and the guy then went to live in PC or the Aids ward and I think finally stopped hating gays. Also, the Luis Guzman plot where he was fucking ruthlessly coming after Miguel and shamed him into blinding the Latino guard for being a traitor. That was fucking good writing! The whole prisoner's dilemma there about not wanting to appear to be sympathetic to "the man" and how he was going to lose his high status in the Latino gang if he continued to let Luis fuck with him.

by Anonymousreply 3111/02/2018

R27 I'm sure a lot if not most of the principles would be willing to come back if it was well written.

I also think it would enjoy a big welcome back.

They could tackle so much with it. It would be insanely relevant.

by Anonymousreply 3211/02/2018

But did they have hearts of gold, r31?

by Anonymousreply 3311/02/2018

R33 I wanted them all to fuck me so they had much more than just hearts of gold.

by Anonymousreply 3411/02/2018

I loved it when it was on, until the last season. I don't even remember it, but I do remember hating it.

by Anonymousreply 3511/02/2018

R32 Most were dead by the end, the final bus trip out shows how few, jesus that last season was a bloodbath of regulars

by Anonymousreply 3611/02/2018

R36 What am I thinking, you're right.

They could find clever ways, though (different characters, flashbacks, etc.).

The last season was insane but it was epic and operatic and I loved that the show went out that way.

by Anonymousreply 3711/02/2018

[quote]I'm sure a lot if not most of the principles

PrinciPALS, dear.

by Anonymousreply 3811/02/2018

R38 You are why I love DL, lol. :-*

by Anonymousreply 3911/02/2018

Sex violence power.

by Anonymousreply 4011/02/2018

Thank you, r38.

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by Anonymousreply 4111/02/2018

[quote] Yes [R15], it wasn't as true to life as "Westworld" or "GOT" but we know to suspend our disbelief when we watch fictional cable shows.

"Westworld"and "Game of Thrones" are sci-fi/fantasy shows.

"Oz" was supposed to be gritty realism.

by Anonymousreply 4211/02/2018

With moments of surrealism, which were expertly set up, R42.

by Anonymousreply 4311/02/2018

Tremendous show, I loved it. And apropos of nothing the nude tattoed guy with his dick hanging out in the photo above is also a hard rock star, and was married to the porn star Tera Patrick. Think his name was Evan Seinfield?

by Anonymousreply 4411/02/2018

r44 Yes, he was the lead singer for Bio-Hazard, a shitty metal band.

by Anonymousreply 4511/02/2018

R17 I think he was referring to all the gratuitous sex/nudity.

by Anonymousreply 4611/02/2018

I never thought that OZ was supposed to be gritty realism. So many unrealistic things happened on that show. It definitely was surreal, as R43 noted.

by Anonymousreply 4711/02/2018

That is how I read it r46. The adult themes, violence, sex/nudity. Oz was the pioneer in terms of changing what you could do with television.

by Anonymousreply 4811/02/2018

The "Oz" parody they did when Jerry Seinfeld hosted SNL was a classic.

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by Anonymousreply 4911/02/2018

I watched it so see what the fuss was about. The gratuitous violence got tiresome very quickly. It seemed like every episode had someone being raped, tortured, maimed or killed. Didn't the final episode kill off most of the characters? I couldn't stand all that gross weekly violence. It got cartoonish and implausible. Violence for violence's sake.

by Anonymousreply 5011/02/2018

I always think of when George Michael watched "Oz" as a child on "Arrested Development."

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by Anonymousreply 5111/02/2018

"wonderfully" gay?

by Anonymousreply 5211/02/2018

Halfway through season 1 and I'm hooked again.

by Anonymousreply 5311/02/2018

Betty Lynn makes an appearance

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by Anonymousreply 5411/02/2018

Big deal! I was a love interest of 2 of the main characters r54!

by Anonymousreply 5511/02/2018

For some reason Wolfgang Cutler sadistically using Robson as a fucktoy was always the stand out moment. That and Brian Bloom's character. I was 16 when Oz premiered so this was adolsecent gay porn for me as my dial up connection took forever to download a 20 second clip from the internet.

Yes, I remember why Cutler was in prison... I try not to think about it.

by Anonymousreply 5611/02/2018

Loved this show for how truly unpredictable it could be but hated every frame of Patti Lupone and the way she pronounced breast cancer.

by Anonymousreply 5711/02/2018

Tobias Peaches singing in episode 6 still breaks me in two!

by Anonymousreply 5811/02/2018

*Tobias Beecher

And this is the singing scene.

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by Anonymousreply 5911/02/2018

R50 jacked off to every single episode, but really "hated all the violence". You can't make this shit up.

by Anonymousreply 6011/02/2018

I thought the love affair between Tobias Beecher and Chris Keller was the heart and soul of the series. I've never been to prison, but I've spent time in jail, and I could identify with a lot of it. I eventually had to stop watching, because I just got too fatigued with the violence. Anyway, their love story is about two otherwise straight men, who fall in love. I know DL thinks we just fetishize straight guys. I don't. But somehow, the context of their affair lends it a poignancy it otherwise wouldn't have had.

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by Anonymousreply 6111/02/2018

I thought Keller was gay? But yeah, that absolutely was the heart of the show. And Miguel and his demons.

by Anonymousreply 6211/02/2018

R62, From watching the series, I was always left with the impression that both men lived straight lives outside of prison. That they only discovered that their needs coincided when they were 'inside'. I mean, I was only in jail a month, and I saw that happen. A couple of my cellmates HAD been in prison, and I heard stories of their love affairs with other men. We always have stories about gay porn stars on DL that get caught up in the Gay 4 Pay debate, which I think is pretty ridiculous. Men who want sex will have sex with other men, regardless of their orientation. I mean, c'mon! Why wouldn't a man want to fuck a sexy man?

by Anonymousreply 6311/02/2018

Whatever happened to Tom Fontana who created the show and supervised it closely, no matter who the named show runner was? I remember that he and Dick Wolf, who created all the Law & Orders, were close friends and regularly shared ideas and actors, which is why people like Meloni and Dean Winters kept popping up in both all their shows. Dennis Farina's character on the original L&O was "Lt. Fontana" and rumored to be Wolf's tribute to Tom.

Fontana also produced a number of other hit shows like St. Elsewhere and Homicide: Life on the Street.

by Anonymousreply 6411/02/2018

Recently bought the DVD set on eBay myself.

Sadly not enjoying as much now but, in its day, it was fab-u-loud.

by Anonymousreply 6511/02/2018

Meloni and Dean Winters appeared in both SVU and Oz at the same time only because Fontana and Wolf carefully coordinated their shooting schedules together. Winters couldn't take it and left SVU after its first season; Meloni shot both shows at the same time for two or three years. (Winters came back to SVU years later as the same character after Meloni had left as a sometimes recurring character.)

by Anonymousreply 6611/02/2018

What happened to Meloni after the show? What has he been up to?

by Anonymousreply 6711/02/2018

R63 Love affairs as in “protecting their asses from being gang raped by others” or something else?

by Anonymousreply 6811/02/2018

Keller wasnt straight man, he was at least bisexual, most likely gay in denial. He was raping and killing gay men.

by Anonymousreply 6911/02/2018

[quote] I mean, c'mon! Why wouldn't a man want to fuck a sexy man?

For the same reason why a man wouldn't want to fuck a sexy woman.

by Anonymousreply 7011/02/2018

The Wire is better.

by Anonymousreply 7111/02/2018

[quote]The Wire is better.

Two rather different shows. Not a contest. Watch both.

by Anonymousreply 7211/02/2018

As far as gay cast members, off the top of my head there was BD Wong (Father Ray), as well as Steven Wishnoff (Masters) and James Palacios (Miss Fiona) from the gay gang.

by Anonymousreply 7311/02/2018

Nothing says "wonderfully gay" quite like being forced against your will to be a murderous Nazi's prison bitch!

by Anonymousreply 7411/02/2018

Over the years, I've known men who would have paid for that, r74.

by Anonymousreply 7511/02/2018

You seem to have a very, very, very different definition of "wonderful" than my own.

There are men who would also pay to have other men shit on their faces like Beecher does to Schillinger; but that scene doesn't make the show "wonderfully gay" to me either.

But perhaps it does to you.

by Anonymousreply 7611/02/2018

R61 Chris played this character very well. He was dangerous murderer yet able to care and love, sometimes. How many here would have loved to share their time with this manipulative character, who couldn’t be truster at all?

by Anonymousreply 7711/03/2018

[quote]R63 I mean, c'mon! Why wouldn't a man want to fuck a sexy man?

That is like saying, “Why wouldn’t a gay man want to fuck a sexy woman?”

by Anonymousreply 7811/03/2018

Hottest sex scene was R.E. Rodgers and his cell mate during the final season.

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by Anonymousreply 7911/03/2018

R64 a few years ago, Fontana remarried his ex-wife, and then she died.

by Anonymousreply 8011/03/2018

It was basically Prisoner Cell Block H with cock

by Anonymousreply 8111/03/2018

R61 Agreed.

by Anonymousreply 8211/03/2018

R64 St. Elsewhere is another underrated show.

by Anonymousreply 8311/03/2018

When I wrote"wonderfully gay", I meant "refreshingly and unabashedly gay" and I stan by that.

One thing I love most about this show is the dignity with which the gay characters were treated. They weren't condescended to or oversimplified.

I also love that they didn't shy away from the sex, which could range from violent to romantic.

I stopped watching 7 episodes in last night and was struck by how well it's held up and gripping it all still is.

by Anonymousreply 8411/03/2018

What it needed to make it "refreshingly and unabashedly gay" was a Hope Emerson character.

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by Anonymousreply 8511/03/2018

R61/R63 That love affair was everything. The writers did a fantastic job of exploring almost every angle of it, too.

It never felt inauthentic.

by Anonymousreply 8611/03/2018

I think we saw every main character's dick on the show - except for the guy I thought was the sexiest (Ryan O'Reily)

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by Anonymousreply 8711/03/2018

R87 We actually get a great shot of his cock in episode 5 or 6. Just saw it last night. It's after he's put in isolation after ratting on himself regarding a drug deal.

The scene is of him going crazy in the cell. They show his cock a few times.

by Anonymousreply 8811/03/2018

Yeah Dean Winters definitely got naked.

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by Anonymousreply 8911/03/2018

We liked Arian Daddy!

by Anonymousreply 9011/03/2018

R90 You would, lol.

by Anonymousreply 9111/03/2018

There was hardly any consequence to many of the killings. Like Brian Bloom being murdered with Keller's jizz smeared all over his face.They wouldn't have done a DNA test? Some prisoner also got shut up behind a new brick wall. No one was going to notice? I remember some guard being killed and nothing more ever being said about it. It was just kind of ridiculous in an otherwise interesting show.

by Anonymousreply 9211/03/2018

R92 'Some Prisoner' - was Luke Perry, who also showed his cock

by Anonymousreply 9311/03/2018

Thank you, R89. I don't know why I didn't remember that.

[quote]Luke Perry, who also showed his cock

Speaking of which . . .

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by Anonymousreply 9411/03/2018

I'm finishing season 1 tonight. These are my girls.

by Anonymousreply 9511/03/2018

Once again, OZ was not supposed to be realistic portrayal of prison life. It was a soap opera.

by Anonymousreply 9611/03/2018

I liked Scott Winters, who played O'Reily's retarded brother and is Dean Winters's real-life brother.

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by Anonymousreply 9711/03/2018

I heard from a friend that Westworld is total shit now, all "men are evil" storylines. I remember Thandie Newton complained about all her nudity on WW and how degrading it was or something and to that I say, "hunty, watch OZ, you got off lightly!" I appreciate the gore and un-pc'ness of OZ.

by Anonymousreply 9811/03/2018

Kathryn Erbe was so evil as Shirley Bellinger that I rejoiced when she started playing a good guy on L&O: Criminal Intent.

by Anonymousreply 9911/03/2018

r99 "But...you're a nigger!"

by Anonymousreply 10011/03/2018

really, that is a good deal I need to go by Walmart.

by Anonymousreply 10111/03/2018

I was surprised to learn that Kathryn Erbe was married to Terry Kinney (McManus). Out of all the characters who you would think one would hate for their crimes, the character I hated most was McManus. He was so sanctimonious.

[quote]As far as gay cast members, off the top of my head there was BD Wong (Father Ray), as well as Steven Wishnoff (Masters) and James Palacios (Miss Fiona) from the gay gang.

There was also Mike Doyle. It was the first thing I had ever seen him in and I hated him so much as Adam Guenzel that it was only until recently I could see him in another show or film without wanting to punch him in the face.  Charles Busch also had a recurring role.

by Anonymousreply 10211/03/2018

I'm on the last episode of season 1.

omg omg omg.

I wish this show was new again. It's too fucking good.

by Anonymousreply 10311/03/2018

I can't ever find anything good at Walmart.

by Anonymousreply 10411/03/2018

I lusted for Granville Adams as Zahir Arif.

Honorable mentions: Kirk Acevedo, R. E. Rodgers, J. K. Simmons, and Eamonn Walker.

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by Anonymousreply 10511/03/2018

The Beecher/Keller love affair felt authentic because they were fucking in real life.

by Anonymousreply 10611/03/2018

[quote] What it needed to make it "refreshingly and unabashedly gay" was a Hope Emerson character.

Or a Franklin Pangborn one.

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by Anonymousreply 10711/03/2018

I loved when they walled up Luke Perry's preacher! JK Simmons (Schillinger) has an Oscar. Supporting, but still. Just like Sr. Pete.

by Anonymousreply 10811/03/2018

Luke Perry was really good in his guest spot.

by Anonymousreply 10911/03/2018

Cyril walking to his death- makes me weep.

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by Anonymousreply 11011/03/2018

He really was, R109.

by Anonymousreply 11111/03/2018

R103 the other day I was just discussing with my hairdresser that they should make a pill that will make you forget movies/TV shows you've already watched so that you can experience watching them anew.

by Anonymousreply 11211/04/2018

R112 This show is so good, it feels like your experiencing it anew each time you rewatch it.

by Anonymousreply 11311/04/2018

r112 Wait until you get older. You won't need a pill for that. (But you probably will for other things.)

by Anonymousreply 11411/04/2018

R114 LOL

by Anonymousreply 11511/04/2018

It has the same effect on me The Twilight Zone and Star Trek have. Something about the monotone setting and the talkiness of it all, which is very soothing and relaxing and, due to the topic matter, at times even a bit contemplative.

A poignant classic.

by Anonymousreply 11611/04/2018

[quote]Kathryn Erbe was so evil as Shirley Bellinger that I rejoiced when she started playing a good guy on L&O: Criminal Intent.

And I rejoiced when JK Simmons played the kindly dad in Juno.

by Anonymousreply 11711/04/2018

I met a guy whose introduction to JK was Juno so he was shocked how good he was at playing a hardass in Whiplash. I told him to look up his scenes in Oz if he really wanted to be shocked.

by Anonymousreply 11811/04/2018

Believe it or not, the only thing I really remember about Bellinger was when she was bring dragged to the gallows and then started screaming for God to forgive her. I thought the character was just ridiculous and the situation of her being the only female inmate in Oz being absurd.

by Anonymousreply 11911/04/2018

OT: Kathryn Erbe was set to replace S. Epatha Merkerson on the original Law & Order playing her Criminal Intent character. (Merkerson was leaving voluntarily, which was why she got that nice little story arc the final season.) And then the show was unexpectedly canceled at the last minute

by Anonymousreply 12011/04/2018

To enter Oz you must be willing to relinquish your ego and to set aside petty desires, needs and wounds. It is a tour de force of surrealism and gritty reality juxtaposed to make the exploration of the infinite and inevitable relatable and palpable, which it does with total abandon.

It is also one of the very best "gay shows" ever because it wasn't trying to be that but totally was that and so much more.

by Anonymousreply 12111/04/2018

Howard Stern aptly noted that the reason it was a hit was because there was so much cock shown and it had a huge gay following.

by Anonymousreply 12211/04/2018

OZ and QUEER AS FOLK were on around the same time. Which was more popular with gays?

by Anonymousreply 12311/04/2018

R110 I keened when they finally, FINALLY killed Cyril, it had been building for many seasons, ( and we all know how OZ raced thru storylines), and when it finally happened I was devastated. Great acting and writing all round

by Anonymousreply 12411/04/2018

Not to mention her sparkling turn as Patsy Nixon, r99!

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by Anonymousreply 12511/04/2018

Pat or Patricia, never Patsy.

by Anonymousreply 12611/04/2018

R126 wasn't her full name Thelma Catherine Nixon (née Ryan;)? Where the hell did "Pat" come from?

by Anonymousreply 12711/04/2018

It wasnt popular, really. Ratings were bad, as i remember.

by Anonymousreply 12811/04/2018

"All hope abandon ye who enter here" is from Dante's 'Divine Comedy', all the way back from the 1300s. 'Oz' is almost like a tour of purgatory, or even hell. Every time I watched Beecher and Keller kissing, I had a lurking terror that Keller was going to turn around and snap Beecher's neck. The fear never dissipates, the tension never evaporates. I liked watching a show that depicted some intimacy between men, but it also showed some tremendous brutality, which is why I couldn't watch after a few seasons.

by Anonymousreply 12911/04/2018

R128 Yeah, rating were so bad it ran for six seasons.....

by Anonymousreply 13011/04/2018

"Oz" bears no resemblance to reality. Even the worst American prisons were never like THAT.

by Anonymousreply 13111/04/2018

[quote]"Oz" bears no resemblance to reality.

You don't say? It was a prime time soap, not a docudrama.

by Anonymousreply 13211/04/2018

R131 Oh My God, do you mean it was a TV show?

by Anonymousreply 13311/04/2018

R133 I have noticed that the younger generation expects realism in everything, including cartoons. I was watching a FAMILY GUY clip where Lois asks Peter what happened to his wallet, and he said "I must've left it with my other family." Then there's a cutaway of Peter bidding adieu to Lois et al., getting on a plane, arriving in Chicago, changing into women's clothing in the taxi, and arriving at his other home all made up where his husband and three children await him. Funny, right? But the young'uns in the comments section are all like "How is that possible?" "Did they adopt?" "Is Peter gay?" They can't just take a joke at face value.

by Anonymousreply 13411/04/2018

R130

It were different back then. I think Oz was first HBO drama, before Soprano, before The Wire. It made the way but it never was as succesful with viewers and critics and awards as those other iconic HBO shows. I love this show to death. So many terrific moments.

by Anonymousreply 13511/04/2018

"Oh My God, do you mean it was a TV show?"

I'm sure a lot of the fans of this show thought it was an accurate depiction of a tough prison. TV audiences are not known for any substantial intelligence, and you, most certainly, are proof of that.

by Anonymousreply 13611/04/2018

R136 'You are sure...', oh then it MUST be real cause you are sure. So sure.....

by Anonymousreply 13711/04/2018

R137 must be truly ignorant if he thinks tv audiences don't believe in the "reality" of what they see on their tv screens, even if the show is fictional. Very ignorant indeed.

by Anonymousreply 13811/04/2018

SISTER PETE...shouted a la Austin Pendelton after decades in solitary.....

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by Anonymousreply 13911/04/2018

R138

Nobody believed in reality of Oz. They had aging pills, for God sake.

by Anonymousreply 14011/04/2018

"Nobody believed in reality of Oz."

Oh, come on. TV audiences aren't that bright. A lot of them believe in what they see on these shows, no matter how outlandish is it. There are some people who believe that "Grey's Anatomy" is an accurate depiction of a hospital and its staff. And THAT show is just as implausible as "Oz."

by Anonymousreply 14111/04/2018

[quote] Nobody believed in reality of Oz. They had aging pills, for God sake

Ryan O'Reilly, the biggest puller of ploys and all around snake not being killed was the biggest implausible aspect of that show.

by Anonymousreply 14211/04/2018

R141, my friend worked as a telephone operator in Washington during the '70s. She would routinely get calls from people who wanted to know the phone numbers of people on Soap Operas so they could warn them of what was happening in Pine Valley, Genoa City, etc.

by Anonymousreply 14311/04/2018

R142 Balls, Ryan played the game the best, and he lost everything except his life, because of his machinations.

by Anonymousreply 14411/04/2018

R141

Well, some members of tv audience are dumb. But i doubt OZ attracted same audience as Grey' Anathomy. It was particular type of show. Cant imagine dumb person liking it.

by Anonymousreply 14511/04/2018

That was a reference to this Fannie Flagg album which, apparently, I was the only person to own, r126.

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by Anonymousreply 14611/04/2018

R145 I really doubt watchers of 'Young and the Restless' watched OZ, judging by the retarded threads on Y and R here

by Anonymousreply 14711/04/2018

r144 Exactly, Ryan was the smartest man in OZ and had protection from people who needed him for his scamming abilities, he had his fingers in all the pies.

by Anonymousreply 14811/04/2018

I hate that storyline of Ryan pining over that stupid doctor played by the awful Lauren Velez.

by Anonymousreply 14911/04/2018

It also was the start for Edie Falco on HBO which, I'm sure, lead to her being cast as Carmella Soprano.

by Anonymousreply 15011/04/2018

R150 Sure was, she moved to England to fuck a British bobbie in the show, via a letter to McManus, God who would fuck McManus, that moron

by Anonymousreply 15111/04/2018

This thread is making me horny as fuck!

Especially the Meloni hole presentation!

by Anonymousreply 15211/04/2018

R152 lol.

by Anonymousreply 15311/04/2018

omg, so hot

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by Anonymousreply 15411/04/2018

Richard Speck grew some nice titties for all the BBC in jail.

by Anonymousreply 15511/04/2018

A former white supremist gang member speaks to Louis about his relationship with a Jewish male prisoner

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by Anonymousreply 15611/04/2018

Starting season 2 tonight.

by Anonymousreply 15711/04/2018

Omg. Ahhh!

by Anonymousreply 15811/04/2018

Keller has finally arrived. I'm midway through season 2.

by Anonymousreply 15911/06/2018

Almost done with season 2.

So good.

by Anonymousreply 16011/11/2018

Was the actual gay actor on the show the one that played the gay inmate that gets his throat slit with a razor blade in the shower by a guy that pretends to come onto him to get him alone?

by Anonymousreply 16111/11/2018

R161 How dare you?

by Anonymousreply 16211/11/2018

fuck. the gay guy on death row is painfully beautiful. Season 3.

by Anonymousreply 16311/11/2018

R163 what's his name?

by Anonymousreply 16411/11/2018

R164 Too lazy to look it up, but he's in ep 1 of season

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by Anonymousreply 16511/11/2018

I liked him too. I think he shows his dick to Shirley Bellinger.

by Anonymousreply 16611/11/2018

R166 yes!

by Anonymousreply 16711/11/2018

R166 Richie was a darling, great death, great bod. God I love this show.

I love that Russian who turns up after the big buildup in season one, he has one scene and is then killed and left hanging upside down in the rec area, so fucking funny

by Anonymousreply 16811/11/2018

Bump, cuz I just got sucked into streaming this show out of nowhere. It was originally on when I was way too young to watch it (like, kindergarten age), and while I've heard it whispered about ever since I've never really bothered to check it out because it didn't seem my cup of tea (and I was a BAD GIRLS fan, so I don't know why I maintained that). Now I'm eating my hat.

My favourite character so far is Jason Cramer, the gay boxer. His character was a refreshing example of a totally masculine and completely gay prisoner, and his arc is the only uplifting 'happy ending' story in the whole show' I love how he just walks away free with a triumphant smile, a swish, and a middle finger at the end. Don't ask me why I get this impression, but the way the actor plays the character reminds me a little of Corey Haim (RIP).

I'm also with a lot of the above posters with stanning Ryan O'Reilly and his wicked schemes, and wishing he had been in the show way more. I find Sister Pete enthralling, and I also like her assistant colleague the nelly Asian priest (don't come for me, but I keep forgetting his damn name) who is very adorable and sweet in an understated way and in marked contrast to his surroundings. Keller fucking terrifies me, and that along with the soapy swerves in his s/l puts me off the epic Beecheller romance, though I get that is part of the charm for others. I always look forward to Augustus Hill's monologues, too - why isn't Harold Perrineau getting big roles, now? (last thing I saw him in was LOST).

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by Anonymousreply 16911/20/2020

Actress Kristin Rohde who played the nasty corrections officer Claire Howell to great effect died of cancer in 2016 at age 52.

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by Anonymousreply 17011/20/2020

R170 so young. She was a fine actress. What sort of cancer got her? I can’t find info online.

Never forget Claire fucked Ryan & Chris, electrocuted Stanislofsky, and cut Morales tendons. Bitch was fearless.

by Anonymousreply 17111/21/2020

Meloni had more chemistry with Winters than with Tergesen.

Like at the end of this episode, when Keller warns O'Reilly not to hurt Beecher, and Ryan retorts "don't make any threats, K-Boy. Might put me in a bad fucking mood." all up in Chris's face.

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