I just picked up the complete series at Wal-Mart for $39, which I thought was a steal. It's running for $100+ on Amazon.
This has got to be one of HBO's peak shows. Fantastic writing, brilliant performances, infinitely relevant. And wonderfully gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||11/21/2020|
It was good for a while, the writing got progressively dumber as it went on though.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||11/02/2018|
Still, R1, they did a fantastic job of sustaining the main storylines and the integrity of each character.
I loved it from start to finish. This will be my third rewatch.
I haven't seen it in 3-4 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||11/02/2018|
Also, the amount of beautiful ass on display is a bit overwhelming at times.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||11/02/2018|
R3, don’t forget the tinymeat.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||11/02/2018|
R4 I'll never underestimate a grower ;)
|by Anonymous||reply 5||11/02/2018|
So much nudity. I don't think there was a single inch of Chris Meloni we didn't see except maybe for his spleen.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||11/02/2018|
Yeah "Oz" had more male nudity than any show that has been on American TV. Weird that it is old now, but no HBO show in the years since has been willing to match them.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||11/02/2018|
I love how they dealt with the love story. Heartbreaking.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||11/02/2018|
You can watch the entire series on Amazon Prime Video. There is no need to buy DVD's.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||11/02/2018|
Oh wow, OP, I remember paying 40 bucks a season when I bought it so long ago. And how weird, I just remembered that Tobias Beecher was in my dream last night! Seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||11/02/2018|
R9 I do stream mostly everything, but like to own hard copies of my favorite films and shows. I've always wanted to buy this one.
R10 Yeah, pricing is definitely what took me so long to buy the series. When I saw it for so cheap, I had to snatch it up.
It's an extremely underrated and overlooked show, imo. It can be said to be hugely responsible for the shift in premium cable shows. The tone, the sex, the violence, the cinematic quality of it all - it's influenced everything from The Sopranos to American Horror Story.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||11/02/2018|
Agreed r11, and everything else is just "Oz" in a different time and place. "Deadwood" is old west "Oz", GOT is medieval "Oz" and none of them come close.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||11/02/2018|
R12 HBO should consider rebooting it.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||11/02/2018|
With all the gay sex going on in that show were there any actual gay actors in the cast?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||11/02/2018|
It was insanely unbelievable. In the last season, a character's non-inmate father, a respectable and wealthy member of his community, visited his inmate son in prison and was violently killed by the inmate's enemies when they (inplausibly) got him alone, and yet there were absolutely no consequences, no news story about the killing, nothing. In real life, such an event would be the top story of the national news for days and would have triggered an enormous inquiry into the prison's workings; not on OZ.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||11/02/2018|
Loved it. Would enjoy seeing if it stands the test of time.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||11/02/2018|
[quote] GOT is medieval "Oz"
George R. R. Martin started writing "A Game of Thrones" in 1991, and published that novel in 1996. The show's first season is incredibly faithful to the first book.
"Oz" the TV series premiered in 1997.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||11/02/2018|
Yeah, I think because it was the first attempt at "prestige" television people overlooked a lot r15. A lot of the writing was pretty silly, and if the same plots happened nowadays people would be bitching about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||11/02/2018|
Yes r15, it wasn't as true to life as "Westworld" or "GOT" but we know to suspend our disbelief when we watch fictional cable shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||11/02/2018|
Christopher Meloni is definition of sex in this.
God, how I dreamt of riding his cock for hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||11/02/2018|
"Oz" was like a prison based "Twilight Zone". Sure, a lot of it is implausible, but nonetheless poignant and effective.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||11/02/2018|
$39! That's about 50 cents per dick shot!
|by Anonymous||reply 22||11/02/2018|
R22 lol. It's totally worth it, too. I'm watching episode three now as I peruse DL and I keep forgetting about my phone and getting sucked into the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||11/02/2018|
Great show. I think Vern Schillinger was the be all, end all of scary. Such a wonderful cast.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||11/02/2018|
Rita Moreno was amazing in this, too.
I loved the grace and sense of spirituality she brought to the grit and brawn.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||11/02/2018|
They could never replace the actors on OZ in a reboot, I am remembering Wangler, who I thought was so hot, on "The Wire" and a bunch of other people from "The Wire". Shit even Dana Reeve was on it as the governor's assistant or something? Kathryn Erbe, Edie Falco, etc. I think it was supposed to be some kind of launching point for the guy who played Miguel as he was always touted as the star, later he did a show called "Black Irish" or something and it tanked. Oh and Luiz Guzman was great on it, and Dean Winters! That show is great, OP, I envy you. I watched a bunch of it a few years back. Oh and Vern Schillinger, funny that he and Ryan O' Reilly now both are insurance spokespeople.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||11/02/2018|
R22 Damn. That's a hot cock.
This show is EVERYTHING.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||11/02/2018|
Fucking loved it, worst storyline was the aging drug to speed up your incarceration.
Best was all the rest, Gods I LOVE this show
|by Anonymous||reply 29||11/02/2018|
Oz reminds me of DL a bit, lol.
A bunch of horny, lovable ruthless cunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||11/02/2018|
I remember when Adebisi injected the old Italian gangster with an Aids needle and the guy then went to live in PC or the Aids ward and I think finally stopped hating gays. Also, the Luis Guzman plot where he was fucking ruthlessly coming after Miguel and shamed him into blinding the Latino guard for being a traitor. That was fucking good writing! The whole prisoner's dilemma there about not wanting to appear to be sympathetic to "the man" and how he was going to lose his high status in the Latino gang if he continued to let Luis fuck with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/02/2018|
R27 I'm sure a lot if not most of the principles would be willing to come back if it was well written.
I also think it would enjoy a big welcome back.
They could tackle so much with it. It would be insanely relevant.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/02/2018|
But did they have hearts of gold, r31?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||11/02/2018|
R33 I wanted them all to fuck me so they had much more than just hearts of gold.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||11/02/2018|
I loved it when it was on, until the last season. I don't even remember it, but I do remember hating it.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||11/02/2018|
R32 Most were dead by the end, the final bus trip out shows how few, jesus that last season was a bloodbath of regulars
|by Anonymous||reply 36||11/02/2018|
R36 What am I thinking, you're right.
They could find clever ways, though (different characters, flashbacks, etc.).
The last season was insane but it was epic and operatic and I loved that the show went out that way.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||11/02/2018|
[quote]I'm sure a lot if not most of the principles
|by Anonymous||reply 38||11/02/2018|
R38 You are why I love DL, lol. :-*
|by Anonymous||reply 39||11/02/2018|
[quote] Yes [R15], it wasn't as true to life as "Westworld" or "GOT" but we know to suspend our disbelief when we watch fictional cable shows.
"Westworld"and "Game of Thrones" are sci-fi/fantasy shows.
"Oz" was supposed to be gritty realism.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||11/02/2018|
With moments of surrealism, which were expertly set up, R42.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||11/02/2018|
Tremendous show, I loved it. And apropos of nothing the nude tattoed guy with his dick hanging out in the photo above is also a hard rock star, and was married to the porn star Tera Patrick. Think his name was Evan Seinfield?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||11/02/2018|
r44 Yes, he was the lead singer for Bio-Hazard, a shitty metal band.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||11/02/2018|
R17 I think he was referring to all the gratuitous sex/nudity.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||11/02/2018|
I never thought that OZ was supposed to be gritty realism. So many unrealistic things happened on that show. It definitely was surreal, as R43 noted.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||11/02/2018|
That is how I read it r46. The adult themes, violence, sex/nudity. Oz was the pioneer in terms of changing what you could do with television.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/02/2018|
The "Oz" parody they did when Jerry Seinfeld hosted SNL was a classic.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||11/02/2018|
I watched it so see what the fuss was about. The gratuitous violence got tiresome very quickly. It seemed like every episode had someone being raped, tortured, maimed or killed. Didn't the final episode kill off most of the characters? I couldn't stand all that gross weekly violence. It got cartoonish and implausible. Violence for violence's sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||11/02/2018|
I always think of when George Michael watched "Oz" as a child on "Arrested Development."
|by Anonymous||reply 51||11/02/2018|
Halfway through season 1 and I'm hooked again.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||11/02/2018|
Betty Lynn makes an appearance
|by Anonymous||reply 54||11/02/2018|
Big deal! I was a love interest of 2 of the main characters r54!
|by Anonymous||reply 55||11/02/2018|
For some reason Wolfgang Cutler sadistically using Robson as a fucktoy was always the stand out moment. That and Brian Bloom's character. I was 16 when Oz premiered so this was adolsecent gay porn for me as my dial up connection took forever to download a 20 second clip from the internet.
Yes, I remember why Cutler was in prison... I try not to think about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||11/02/2018|
Loved this show for how truly unpredictable it could be but hated every frame of Patti Lupone and the way she pronounced breast cancer.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||11/02/2018|
Tobias Peaches singing in episode 6 still breaks me in two!
|by Anonymous||reply 58||11/02/2018|
And this is the singing scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||11/02/2018|
R50 jacked off to every single episode, but really "hated all the violence". You can't make this shit up.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||11/02/2018|
I thought the love affair between Tobias Beecher and Chris Keller was the heart and soul of the series. I've never been to prison, but I've spent time in jail, and I could identify with a lot of it. I eventually had to stop watching, because I just got too fatigued with the violence. Anyway, their love story is about two otherwise straight men, who fall in love. I know DL thinks we just fetishize straight guys. I don't. But somehow, the context of their affair lends it a poignancy it otherwise wouldn't have had.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||11/02/2018|
I thought Keller was gay? But yeah, that absolutely was the heart of the show. And Miguel and his demons.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||11/02/2018|
R62, From watching the series, I was always left with the impression that both men lived straight lives outside of prison. That they only discovered that their needs coincided when they were 'inside'. I mean, I was only in jail a month, and I saw that happen. A couple of my cellmates HAD been in prison, and I heard stories of their love affairs with other men. We always have stories about gay porn stars on DL that get caught up in the Gay 4 Pay debate, which I think is pretty ridiculous. Men who want sex will have sex with other men, regardless of their orientation. I mean, c'mon! Why wouldn't a man want to fuck a sexy man?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||11/02/2018|
Whatever happened to Tom Fontana who created the show and supervised it closely, no matter who the named show runner was? I remember that he and Dick Wolf, who created all the Law & Orders, were close friends and regularly shared ideas and actors, which is why people like Meloni and Dean Winters kept popping up in both all their shows. Dennis Farina's character on the original L&O was "Lt. Fontana" and rumored to be Wolf's tribute to Tom.
Fontana also produced a number of other hit shows like St. Elsewhere and Homicide: Life on the Street.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||11/02/2018|
Recently bought the DVD set on eBay myself.
Sadly not enjoying as much now but, in its day, it was fab-u-loud.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||11/02/2018|
Meloni and Dean Winters appeared in both SVU and Oz at the same time only because Fontana and Wolf carefully coordinated their shooting schedules together. Winters couldn't take it and left SVU after its first season; Meloni shot both shows at the same time for two or three years. (Winters came back to SVU years later as the same character after Meloni had left as a sometimes recurring character.)
|by Anonymous||reply 66||11/02/2018|
What happened to Meloni after the show? What has he been up to?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||11/02/2018|
R63 Love affairs as in “protecting their asses from being gang raped by others” or something else?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||11/02/2018|
Keller wasnt straight man, he was at least bisexual, most likely gay in denial. He was raping and killing gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||11/02/2018|
[quote] I mean, c'mon! Why wouldn't a man want to fuck a sexy man?
For the same reason why a man wouldn't want to fuck a sexy woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||11/02/2018|
[quote]The Wire is better.
Two rather different shows. Not a contest. Watch both.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||11/02/2018|
As far as gay cast members, off the top of my head there was BD Wong (Father Ray), as well as Steven Wishnoff (Masters) and James Palacios (Miss Fiona) from the gay gang.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||11/02/2018|
Nothing says "wonderfully gay" quite like being forced against your will to be a murderous Nazi's prison bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 74||11/02/2018|
Over the years, I've known men who would have paid for that, r74.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||11/02/2018|
You seem to have a very, very, very different definition of "wonderful" than my own.
There are men who would also pay to have other men shit on their faces like Beecher does to Schillinger; but that scene doesn't make the show "wonderfully gay" to me either.
But perhaps it does to you.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||11/02/2018|
R61 Chris played this character very well. He was dangerous murderer yet able to care and love, sometimes. How many here would have loved to share their time with this manipulative character, who couldn’t be truster at all?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||11/03/2018|
[quote]R63 I mean, c'mon! Why wouldn't a man want to fuck a sexy man?
That is like saying, “Why wouldn’t a gay man want to fuck a sexy woman?”
|by Anonymous||reply 78||11/03/2018|
Hottest sex scene was R.E. Rodgers and his cell mate during the final season.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||11/03/2018|
R64 a few years ago, Fontana remarried his ex-wife, and then she died.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||11/03/2018|
It was basically Prisoner Cell Block H with cock
|by Anonymous||reply 81||11/03/2018|
R64 St. Elsewhere is another underrated show.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||11/03/2018|
When I wrote"wonderfully gay", I meant "refreshingly and unabashedly gay" and I stan by that.
One thing I love most about this show is the dignity with which the gay characters were treated. They weren't condescended to or oversimplified.
I also love that they didn't shy away from the sex, which could range from violent to romantic.
I stopped watching 7 episodes in last night and was struck by how well it's held up and gripping it all still is.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||11/03/2018|
What it needed to make it "refreshingly and unabashedly gay" was a Hope Emerson character.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||11/03/2018|
R61/R63 That love affair was everything. The writers did a fantastic job of exploring almost every angle of it, too.
It never felt inauthentic.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||11/03/2018|
I think we saw every main character's dick on the show - except for the guy I thought was the sexiest (Ryan O'Reily)
|by Anonymous||reply 87||11/03/2018|
R87 We actually get a great shot of his cock in episode 5 or 6. Just saw it last night. It's after he's put in isolation after ratting on himself regarding a drug deal.
The scene is of him going crazy in the cell. They show his cock a few times.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||11/03/2018|
Yeah Dean Winters definitely got naked.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||11/03/2018|
There was hardly any consequence to many of the killings. Like Brian Bloom being murdered with Keller's jizz smeared all over his face.They wouldn't have done a DNA test? Some prisoner also got shut up behind a new brick wall. No one was going to notice? I remember some guard being killed and nothing more ever being said about it. It was just kind of ridiculous in an otherwise interesting show.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||11/03/2018|
R92 'Some Prisoner' - was Luke Perry, who also showed his cock
|by Anonymous||reply 93||11/03/2018|
Thank you, R89. I don't know why I didn't remember that.
[quote]Luke Perry, who also showed his cock
Speaking of which . . .
|by Anonymous||reply 94||11/03/2018|
I'm finishing season 1 tonight. These are my girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||11/03/2018|
Once again, OZ was not supposed to be realistic portrayal of prison life. It was a soap opera.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||11/03/2018|
I liked Scott Winters, who played O'Reily's retarded brother and is Dean Winters's real-life brother.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||11/03/2018|
I heard from a friend that Westworld is total shit now, all "men are evil" storylines. I remember Thandie Newton complained about all her nudity on WW and how degrading it was or something and to that I say, "hunty, watch OZ, you got off lightly!" I appreciate the gore and un-pc'ness of OZ.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||11/03/2018|
Kathryn Erbe was so evil as Shirley Bellinger that I rejoiced when she started playing a good guy on L&O: Criminal Intent.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||11/03/2018|
r99 "But...you're a nigger!"
|by Anonymous||reply 100||11/03/2018|
really, that is a good deal I need to go by Walmart.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||11/03/2018|
I was surprised to learn that Kathryn Erbe was married to Terry Kinney (McManus). Out of all the characters who you would think one would hate for their crimes, the character I hated most was McManus. He was so sanctimonious.
[quote]As far as gay cast members, off the top of my head there was BD Wong (Father Ray), as well as Steven Wishnoff (Masters) and James Palacios (Miss Fiona) from the gay gang.
There was also Mike Doyle. It was the first thing I had ever seen him in and I hated him so much as Adam Guenzel that it was only until recently I could see him in another show or film without wanting to punch him in the face. Charles Busch also had a recurring role.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||11/03/2018|
I'm on the last episode of season 1.
omg omg omg.
I wish this show was new again. It's too fucking good.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||11/03/2018|
I can't ever find anything good at Walmart.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||11/03/2018|
I lusted for Granville Adams as Zahir Arif.
Honorable mentions: Kirk Acevedo, R. E. Rodgers, J. K. Simmons, and Eamonn Walker.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||11/03/2018|
The Beecher/Keller love affair felt authentic because they were fucking in real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||11/03/2018|
[quote] What it needed to make it "refreshingly and unabashedly gay" was a Hope Emerson character.
Or a Franklin Pangborn one.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||11/03/2018|
I loved when they walled up Luke Perry's preacher! JK Simmons (Schillinger) has an Oscar. Supporting, but still. Just like Sr. Pete.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||11/03/2018|
Luke Perry was really good in his guest spot.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||11/03/2018|
Cyril walking to his death- makes me weep.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||11/03/2018|
R103 the other day I was just discussing with my hairdresser that they should make a pill that will make you forget movies/TV shows you've already watched so that you can experience watching them anew.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||11/04/2018|
R112 This show is so good, it feels like your experiencing it anew each time you rewatch it.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||11/04/2018|
r112 Wait until you get older. You won't need a pill for that. (But you probably will for other things.)
|by Anonymous||reply 114||11/04/2018|
It has the same effect on me The Twilight Zone and Star Trek have. Something about the monotone setting and the talkiness of it all, which is very soothing and relaxing and, due to the topic matter, at times even a bit contemplative.
A poignant classic.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||11/04/2018|
[quote]Kathryn Erbe was so evil as Shirley Bellinger that I rejoiced when she started playing a good guy on L&O: Criminal Intent.
And I rejoiced when JK Simmons played the kindly dad in Juno.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||11/04/2018|
I met a guy whose introduction to JK was Juno so he was shocked how good he was at playing a hardass in Whiplash. I told him to look up his scenes in Oz if he really wanted to be shocked.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||11/04/2018|
Believe it or not, the only thing I really remember about Bellinger was when she was bring dragged to the gallows and then started screaming for God to forgive her. I thought the character was just ridiculous and the situation of her being the only female inmate in Oz being absurd.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||11/04/2018|
OT: Kathryn Erbe was set to replace S. Epatha Merkerson on the original Law & Order playing her Criminal Intent character. (Merkerson was leaving voluntarily, which was why she got that nice little story arc the final season.) And then the show was unexpectedly canceled at the last minute
|by Anonymous||reply 120||11/04/2018|
To enter Oz you must be willing to relinquish your ego and to set aside petty desires, needs and wounds. It is a tour de force of surrealism and gritty reality juxtaposed to make the exploration of the infinite and inevitable relatable and palpable, which it does with total abandon.
It is also one of the very best "gay shows" ever because it wasn't trying to be that but totally was that and so much more.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||11/04/2018|
Howard Stern aptly noted that the reason it was a hit was because there was so much cock shown and it had a huge gay following.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||11/04/2018|
OZ and QUEER AS FOLK were on around the same time. Which was more popular with gays?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||11/04/2018|
R110 I keened when they finally, FINALLY killed Cyril, it had been building for many seasons, ( and we all know how OZ raced thru storylines), and when it finally happened I was devastated. Great acting and writing all round
|by Anonymous||reply 124||11/04/2018|
Not to mention her sparkling turn as Patsy Nixon, r99!
|by Anonymous||reply 125||11/04/2018|
Pat or Patricia, never Patsy.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||11/04/2018|
R126 wasn't her full name Thelma Catherine Nixon (née Ryan;)? Where the hell did "Pat" come from?
|by Anonymous||reply 127||11/04/2018|
It wasnt popular, really. Ratings were bad, as i remember.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||11/04/2018|
"All hope abandon ye who enter here" is from Dante's 'Divine Comedy', all the way back from the 1300s. 'Oz' is almost like a tour of purgatory, or even hell. Every time I watched Beecher and Keller kissing, I had a lurking terror that Keller was going to turn around and snap Beecher's neck. The fear never dissipates, the tension never evaporates. I liked watching a show that depicted some intimacy between men, but it also showed some tremendous brutality, which is why I couldn't watch after a few seasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||11/04/2018|
R128 Yeah, rating were so bad it ran for six seasons.....
|by Anonymous||reply 130||11/04/2018|
"Oz" bears no resemblance to reality. Even the worst American prisons were never like THAT.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||11/04/2018|
[quote]"Oz" bears no resemblance to reality.
You don't say? It was a prime time soap, not a docudrama.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||11/04/2018|
R131 Oh My God, do you mean it was a TV show?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||11/04/2018|
R133 I have noticed that the younger generation expects realism in everything, including cartoons. I was watching a FAMILY GUY clip where Lois asks Peter what happened to his wallet, and he said "I must've left it with my other family." Then there's a cutaway of Peter bidding adieu to Lois et al., getting on a plane, arriving in Chicago, changing into women's clothing in the taxi, and arriving at his other home all made up where his husband and three children await him. Funny, right? But the young'uns in the comments section are all like "How is that possible?" "Did they adopt?" "Is Peter gay?" They can't just take a joke at face value.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||11/04/2018|
It were different back then. I think Oz was first HBO drama, before Soprano, before The Wire. It made the way but it never was as succesful with viewers and critics and awards as those other iconic HBO shows. I love this show to death. So many terrific moments.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||11/04/2018|
"Oh My God, do you mean it was a TV show?"
I'm sure a lot of the fans of this show thought it was an accurate depiction of a tough prison. TV audiences are not known for any substantial intelligence, and you, most certainly, are proof of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||11/04/2018|
R136 'You are sure...', oh then it MUST be real cause you are sure. So sure.....
|by Anonymous||reply 137||11/04/2018|
R137 must be truly ignorant if he thinks tv audiences don't believe in the "reality" of what they see on their tv screens, even if the show is fictional. Very ignorant indeed.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||11/04/2018|
SISTER PETE...shouted a la Austin Pendelton after decades in solitary.....
|by Anonymous||reply 139||11/04/2018|
Nobody believed in reality of Oz. They had aging pills, for God sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||11/04/2018|
"Nobody believed in reality of Oz."
Oh, come on. TV audiences aren't that bright. A lot of them believe in what they see on these shows, no matter how outlandish is it. There are some people who believe that "Grey's Anatomy" is an accurate depiction of a hospital and its staff. And THAT show is just as implausible as "Oz."
|by Anonymous||reply 141||11/04/2018|
[quote] Nobody believed in reality of Oz. They had aging pills, for God sake
Ryan O'Reilly, the biggest puller of ploys and all around snake not being killed was the biggest implausible aspect of that show.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||11/04/2018|
R141, my friend worked as a telephone operator in Washington during the '70s. She would routinely get calls from people who wanted to know the phone numbers of people on Soap Operas so they could warn them of what was happening in Pine Valley, Genoa City, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||11/04/2018|
R142 Balls, Ryan played the game the best, and he lost everything except his life, because of his machinations.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||11/04/2018|
Well, some members of tv audience are dumb. But i doubt OZ attracted same audience as Grey' Anathomy. It was particular type of show. Cant imagine dumb person liking it.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||11/04/2018|
That was a reference to this Fannie Flagg album which, apparently, I was the only person to own, r126.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||11/04/2018|
R145 I really doubt watchers of 'Young and the Restless' watched OZ, judging by the retarded threads on Y and R here
|by Anonymous||reply 147||11/04/2018|
r144 Exactly, Ryan was the smartest man in OZ and had protection from people who needed him for his scamming abilities, he had his fingers in all the pies.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||11/04/2018|
I hate that storyline of Ryan pining over that stupid doctor played by the awful Lauren Velez.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||11/04/2018|
It also was the start for Edie Falco on HBO which, I'm sure, lead to her being cast as Carmella Soprano.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||11/04/2018|
R150 Sure was, she moved to England to fuck a British bobbie in the show, via a letter to McManus, God who would fuck McManus, that moron
|by Anonymous||reply 151||11/04/2018|
This thread is making me horny as fuck!
Especially the Meloni hole presentation!
|by Anonymous||reply 152||11/04/2018|
Richard Speck grew some nice titties for all the BBC in jail.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||11/04/2018|
A former white supremist gang member speaks to Louis about his relationship with a Jewish male prisoner
|by Anonymous||reply 156||11/04/2018|
Starting season 2 tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||11/04/2018|
Keller has finally arrived. I'm midway through season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||11/06/2018|
Almost done with season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||11/11/2018|
Was the actual gay actor on the show the one that played the gay inmate that gets his throat slit with a razor blade in the shower by a guy that pretends to come onto him to get him alone?
|by Anonymous||reply 161||11/11/2018|
fuck. the gay guy on death row is painfully beautiful. Season 3.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||11/11/2018|
R164 Too lazy to look it up, but he's in ep 1 of season
|by Anonymous||reply 165||11/11/2018|
I liked him too. I think he shows his dick to Shirley Bellinger.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||11/11/2018|
R166 Richie was a darling, great death, great bod. God I love this show.
I love that Russian who turns up after the big buildup in season one, he has one scene and is then killed and left hanging upside down in the rec area, so fucking funny
|by Anonymous||reply 168||11/11/2018|
Bump, cuz I just got sucked into streaming this show out of nowhere. It was originally on when I was way too young to watch it (like, kindergarten age), and while I've heard it whispered about ever since I've never really bothered to check it out because it didn't seem my cup of tea (and I was a BAD GIRLS fan, so I don't know why I maintained that). Now I'm eating my hat.
My favourite character so far is Jason Cramer, the gay boxer. His character was a refreshing example of a totally masculine and completely gay prisoner, and his arc is the only uplifting 'happy ending' story in the whole show' I love how he just walks away free with a triumphant smile, a swish, and a middle finger at the end. Don't ask me why I get this impression, but the way the actor plays the character reminds me a little of Corey Haim (RIP).
I'm also with a lot of the above posters with stanning Ryan O'Reilly and his wicked schemes, and wishing he had been in the show way more. I find Sister Pete enthralling, and I also like her assistant colleague the nelly Asian priest (don't come for me, but I keep forgetting his damn name) who is very adorable and sweet in an understated way and in marked contrast to his surroundings. Keller fucking terrifies me, and that along with the soapy swerves in his s/l puts me off the epic Beecheller romance, though I get that is part of the charm for others. I always look forward to Augustus Hill's monologues, too - why isn't Harold Perrineau getting big roles, now? (last thing I saw him in was LOST).
|by Anonymous||reply 169||11/20/2020|
Actress Kristin Rohde who played the nasty corrections officer Claire Howell to great effect died of cancer in 2016 at age 52.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||11/20/2020|
R170 so young. She was a fine actress. What sort of cancer got her? I can’t find info online.
Never forget Claire fucked Ryan & Chris, electrocuted Stanislofsky, and cut Morales tendons. Bitch was fearless.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||11/21/2020|
Meloni had more chemistry with Winters than with Tergesen.
Like at the end of this episode, when Keller warns O'Reilly not to hurt Beecher, and Ryan retorts "don't make any threats, K-Boy. Might put me in a bad fucking mood." all up in Chris's face.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||11/21/2020|