Predictions for 2018 Autumn Lame Duck Session

I’m thinking they’ll try to shred the ACA again, to the extent possible. I don’t know what else. Maybe something with immigration? Is there anything they want that they don’t already have?

Not a lame duck matter, but I’ll mention...

Looks like we might have more Dem Governors after the election. I’m hoping they all do something to reverse the changes that recently took people off the voter rolls in so many states. If the Republicans removed these people to better their results, putting them back should help the Dems.

I predict a red wave and a lot of leftist tears.

I predict a blue wave and R3's in tears.

I think the awful thing the Repugs do will be procedural. They'll change the rules of the House or something to take away power from committee chairs and then vote through that any future rule changes require the agreement of at least one of the minority party members on those committees. They'll fuck up something with the subpoena power.

If they lose the Senate, all bets are off about what kind of illegal maneuvers McTurtle will commence.

Perhaps a red tide, but not a red wave.

R3, in that case, they wouldn’t need to rush legislation before Jan 1, 2019. But the odds are only about 15% that the red tide washes over the House. So the Republicans only have a brief window in time to enact Red legislation.

Interesting, R5. Like the law that requires a pay raise for themselves to take effect after the following election, at earliest.

Somehow, I think the new Congress can vote to set their own rules, but you’re right. If Ryan et. al. can do something similar, they’ll do it.

Trump will meet with Putin in the Fall, no doubt for further instructions.

Mueller will release a report. Maybe not the final report, though. Don Trump Jr. will be indited.

Sessions and Rosenberg will be fired or asked to resign. Then their replacements will terminate any additional Mueller investigation.

Birthright legislation. NBC says 75% of Americans want the end to automatic US citizenship going to babies of illegals.

What do morons like you, R10, not understand about it being in the Constitution? And, don't try to pretend you're not a Repug fuck with your use of "illegals".

[quote]They'll change the rules of the House or something to take away power from committee chairs and then vote through that any future rule changes require the agreement of at least one of the minority party members on those committees. They'll fuck up something with the subpoena power.

Anything they can do with a simple majority can be undone with a simple majority, so there's no problem there. The real issue is what legislation they ram through.

R12, not if they also change the rules about changing the rules to make it so that at least one member of the minority party has to go along with the change. They'll go nuclear. Just watch. I bet they, at the very least, try to make it so committees can't subpoena someone without the okay of the at least one member of the minority party.

R11, I don't believe in resorting to extremely immature name-calling no matter how appropriate. The title of this thread is "predictions." Since the topic of citizenship by birthright is today's internet topic, I'm posting a link to inform others.

Of course the 14th Amendment was created so the children of slaves born in the US would be considered full American citizens. Ask US hospitals in border towns and all across America why they are going broke, their ER rooms have hours long waits, and etc re the abuse of birthright citizenship. There are even Chinese tour companies specializing in very pregnant mothers who want free medical care for their future American babies.

Jesus, too much ignorance about how rules are set in Congress.

Yes, changes to rules can be made at any time, but it's easier at the start of a new Congress (especially in the Senate). No, the Republicans can't "lock in" some made up crap about requiring minority party approval in the next Congress (which is formally an entirely different body) for rules changes. The House is a majority tyranny and there are no barriers whatsoever on what the majority can do under the Constitution (which doesn't set guidelines for how the House conducts its business, i.e. rules).

No non-post office legislation will pass in the lame duck because all outstanding FY reconciliation bills have been taken up.

The upshot is that nothing will happen in the lame duck (other than maybe movement of nominees in the Senate).

R15, I'll see you back here when the lame duck Repugs in the House pass new tax bills and more crap to try to kill the ACA before January.

R14, you are a Repug fuck. Take your "anchor babies", "illegals" bullshit and bury it with your "welfare queen" bullshit and then jump in the hole after it.

I predict R14 will be a minority race in the US in 2045 whether he likes it or not.

You cannot stop the progress, dear.

R17, I was a minority race when I lived in CA. No objections whatsoever. Just oppose Open Borders. Not fair to the incredible number of legal immigrants who've gone through a nightmare of $$$ and paperwork to become US Citizens. GF fiance is an immigration lawyer assisting mainly those South of the Border so I know many stories.

Have always believed US needed a Guest Worker program so those who can handle hard labor under often difficult conditions, such as extreme weather, par for the course in food production can visit their loved ones South of the Border without fear of not being able to return to their job sites.

Those who've toiled in food production for over 20 years should have priority in being given US Citizenship & medical care over the newbies demanding entry to the US.

Maybelline, Revlon red

R17, I also firmly believe that family members of deceased or even injured servicemen and women should automatically get US Citizenship as long as they haven't committed crimes. The immigration process for the above should be expedited.

And in a few years Dotards will be complaining that some armed service people are accidentally shooting one of their big toes in order to get “military citizenship” for their families . . .

[quote]Just oppose Open Borders.

You do realize that Democrats do not advocate for Open Borders, right? Everyone here on DL knows that, so get that straight first. OK?

You need admit to that. If you don't, we will know that you are spreading Repub lies here.

I've asked repeatedly on DL why DNC leaders have not made a statement re the multiple caravans. Yet they have remained silent. IMHO that is a mistake, and I predict is costing Democratic nominees votes.

I've stated many times before I'm a Moderate but Liberal or Libertarian on Social Issues.

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You are not answering my question, R23.

Do you agree that Democrats are not advocating for Open Borders?

That is a question that is easy to answer as plenty of Democratic politicians have made statements about it.

[quote] I've asked repeatedly on DL why DNC leaders have not made a statement re the multiple caravans.

DL doesn't exist to defend Democrats for you.

But here are the facts. The caravan is nowhere near the border with the US. I believe the refugees are about a thousand miles away. The predictions are that by the time the caravan reaches the border with the US we may be talking about 1500 people.

The Democrats are absolutely right about not addressing the issue days before the midterms. There is too much at stake right now. Of course, their silence on the issue is the opposite of what trump wants with his lies about Democrats being the ones who organized the exodus.

That would be "to defend Democrats to you".

You're talking to a Repug fuck who is here just to incite with his ignorance and racism while attempting to not look as ignorant and racist as his defense of the Repug party and the repeating of the bullshit 'open borders' Repug talking point would point to him actually being.

I know, R28. That's why I asked the question about open borders and Democrats. He gave himself away with that one.

I'm not only going to block this troll, I'll bookmark this thread, so I can point at his trolling in other threads till Tuesday.

It's funny how being on DL for so many elections has honed my Repug fucker radar. I had this piece of crap figured out after one sentence at R10.

R18, guest worker programs have proven to be a failure in Europe. Germany has three or more generations of Turks living in Germany who have no connection with Turkey at all. They don’t speak Turkish, have no Turkish hometown, or relation to Turkey. But they’re not German citizens, either. They might actually be stateless, I’m not sure. But I know it hasn’t worked for them.

The Republicans might draft a constitutional amendment intended to end birthright citizenship, and then send it out to the states to vote.

I once heard, and it seems to fit the facts, that neither party really wants to substantially settle immigration issues, because politicians from both parties fundraise off of it.

It would never make it past Congress, R32.

[quote]I've asked repeatedly on DL why DNC leaders have not made a statement re the multiple caravans.

Actually, they have, as a quick Google search would indicate. Why did you fail to make that search?

[quote]Just oppose Open Borders

How can they "oppose" something they've never been for?

R12 not true. Any rules they enact in the lame duck apply to the new congress - and remain in effect until the *next congress following* is inaugurated in 2020. Parliamentary rules.

Sorry, R36, but you're wrong. It's a "lame duck" Congress. The new Congress, seated next year, makes its own rules. The lame duck Congress would be operating under the rules of the current Congress and is not allowed to set the rules for the next.

But would it hurt for the Dems to emphasize that they are against open borders?

Incidentally, the Dems ought to have a plan. Perhaps funding for more border guards, their training, and their equipment, including cameras, infrared, and drones. The new “wall” would require all that anyway.

They could implement “card-check”, I think it’s called. It’s required for employment, then fund agents to inspect employers for compliance. Fund it with fines assessed against violation companies.

Problem solved.

To clarify , the lame duck congressional session convenes soon, through about 12/31/18. The new congress convenes about Jan 2, IIRC.

R38, it would not, and does not, matter what Democratic candidates "emphasize." They have repeatedly said that they are not in favor of open borders. Nobody is in favor of open borders. Republicans will still claim that Democrats are in favor of open borders. Obama increased the number of border patrol agents and deported a ton of illegal immigrants. That didn't stop Republicans from their accusations.

For Democrats to do what you want would be to play the Republican game, on Republican turf, using Republican rules. That is not likely to lead to a good outcome.

We don't really need to give the Repukicons any ideas, they come up with enough bad ones on their own.