"I Was Actually Being Honest With Myself For The First Time.” Gay Man Comes Out To Wife And Kids.

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More power to you, Markus! You have been very brave and appear to exhibit a high level of integrity. Good for you! Continue to be proud and cultivate your relationship w/your sons!

So, Markus talked with a gay friend who told him "You are gay". Markus, who until that point had nooooo idea that he was gay, goes home and promptly comes out to his wife. How is it possible to go from 0 to 100 without any reflection? Markus couldn't have been that unaware of his attraction to men, could he?

So what his wife revenge tactic.

R3, who said there was no reflection. He said he had the feelings, he just never acted on them.

Gee, I wonder if he's the one who asked us on DL whether to come out to his family.

R3 seems somewhat judgemental. Like R5 said - Markus said he had been conscious of the feelings before but had never acted on them. Potential he may be bisexual as well. Only he knows.

Markus finally stopped playing with his pussy and dumped the fish. Better late than never.

No Markus does not get an award for being honest. He should have been honest ten years ago.

Never acted on those feelings? Bullshit, Marky was getting plowed when wifey was away or 'unavailable'.

Sad mistake for the wife.

At least she is young enough to remarry.

What a total asshole. The straights can keep him.

Sizemeat?

What’s up with the wife? Was her gaydar busted? Mormons probably. Lots of them up in that area.

In college two “straight” friend were arguing about their lack of a good sex life. The female kept asking iher BF IF he was sure he wasn’t gay. One weekend, he decided to go see if he was. Two weeks later he moved out and she almost died of alcohol poisoning. Tale as old time!

Is his wife headless? He is obviously gay

[quote][R3], who said there was no reflection. He said he had the feelings, he just never acted on them.

Actually, Marcus didn't say that. His friend told him that that's what was going on with him.

He looks Mormon.

If he doesn’t have a big dick, I don’t care what he does.

Actually, he has a classic case of BDF, so... consider me interested.

With his kids

With the ex

He was a bodybuilder

He's a PhD

So, uh, can't help but notice how those kids look absolutely nothing like either parent.

Wife obviously cheated and he didn't care because it meant he didn't have to have sex with her.

Yeesh

Markus & wife are 40. She's Asian. Both ivy educated MDs so she'll be fine (though angry)

You know what they say about closeted gays and Asian women.

.....I see we're digging through his Facebook. Classy

R28 Yep

Um, holy shit.

As usual, DLers are right! Marriage to Asian means 1 step from Gay!

That tat in R31 looks to be Korean.

Any of you bitches have his number?

His number for what? His package is not impressive. Next!

He doesn’t look like he has an anaconda in those tiny posing briefs, but the cock head looks pretty big, for a flaccid one. I say he has tremendous potential.

What a butterface

???, R36? He’s perfectly handsome. I don’t think you know what ‘butterface’ is.

He reminds me of Conor Lamb.

R3 He's overplaying how sudden his realization was because he wants to look more innocent and less responsible for dragging the marriage along.

R37 he has a great body, but the looks like someone if I saw in a porn video I could close it and look for someone hotter

In real life, he's OK. His voice is very grating so that could be it

[quote]His voice is very grating

Fryyyyyyyy

[quote]He reminds me of Conor Lamb.

This is why I would be his sex slave.

Add his fit body and Ph.D. to the package, and it's almost too much to handle.

The wife knew, she just wanted the sperm and the nest.

He's got the scrawniest legs of the bunch in R22.

What R43 said.

The wife was clueless like a fox — she saw A-1 breeder stock and plenty of future income for alimony.

Soon-to-be-ex wife looks adjacent.

Me likey white PhD sperm!

Wife has Michelle Rodriguez vibe.

you guys are so fucking mean, and it's hysterical

Well it's good that he finally admitted everything, but the thought that he got to the age he had and claims to have had no idea he was gay is pure bullshit. That's just the media ready story he's concocted to make his life seem that much more interesting. He should have just told the full truth, that all his adult life he's lusted after men, has gone out looking the cock many times when the wife was no wiser. He only got married because he figured a wife and kids would give him the perfect cover.

He's just another very selfish man who had no problem knowingly ruining some woman's life & his kid's lives by pretending he was the loving husband and father they thought they had. The only reason he finally came out was because he'd had all of the con he could take.

I have a few friends who have similar stories this is not that uncommon.

I was berated and physically abused because of my sexuality when I was young. Still, I never considered pretending not to be gay at the expense of other people. Most of my friends are women and I love them, and I would never use anyone that way. I try not to condemn others because different factors cause different behaviors, but I do have a hard time celebrating when someone chooses to create a family by deceiving someone and then expects people to cheer and celebrate along with him when he decides to confess it was all a big lie.

Glad that he was honest.....but his wife MUST have known. The first word out of his mouth, you can tell he is gay!

He’s very obviously gay. Some women don’t pick up on it, though. I am more obvious than that guy is and various women in my life have surprised me by being surprised that I am gay. They all claim they really didn’t know...which makes them incredibly naive or idiots, IMO.

It’s interesting to me that we celebrate stories like this. “I married someone and had kids, and then I went on a date with a guy and realized I had never been honest until I guzzled his hot creamy load. Now I’ve abandoned my family and suck lots of dicks and I am happy!” Whereas if a man tried to pull that by leaving a woman for a woman who made him happy, he’d be condemned.

Truth be known he figured out he was gay one night when he was on the game and hooked up with the umpteenth man who gave him a good ol' home ground pounding.

No one knew he was a homo? With that lisp!

It's amazing someone so brilliant could be so dumb and do something so stupid.

My hot gay "friend" told me he thought I was attracted to men but never acted on it and I was like "Gurl, you be trippin'! I is ALL MAN and ain't no man going up in this, you best believe!" But then I got home and started really looking at all my Justin Bieber posters on my bedroom wall and I be like "Bitch, girlfriend be on to somethin; here!" I've always loved dick, but then it really hit me: I's a fag!

R57, you are correct, it's amazing-and Impossible. it was a slow news day.

"This is why I would be his sex slave. Add his fit body and Ph.D. to the package, and it's almost too much to handle."

But you forget after the wife finishes taking him to the cleaners, Markus will be one broke ass bitch and probably be looking for someone to support him for the rest of his life. Not an attractive feature.

He has a gay face that can be seen from the moon how did his wife miss that?

[quote[But you forget after the wife finishes taking him to the cleaners, Markus will be one broke ass bitch and probably be looking for someone to support him for the rest of his life. Not an attractive feature.

I have a friend who is an ophthalmologist with a similar story he was able to support 3 households and live well. He's a doctor and probably has a 6 figure income and can afford to support the wife and kids.

"Markus Boos" ... sounds a little too much like Max Boot for my taste.

Women are strange creatures R61.

My grandmother’s first husband left her for a man after he returned from WWII. They were Catholic—very religious—and the church refused to recognize what he was doing as grounds for an annulment, and so she had to divorce him and was effectively booted from the church for being a divorcee. He became an alcoholic and died from his addiction. She married my grandfather, a deeply troubled alcoholic, and she resented her first husband because he betrayed her and changed her life for the worse. She was a doting, loving, fun, sweet, smart grandmother to me until puberty set in and she did a complete 180. She continued doting on my sister and basically treated me like shit, which really fucked with my head. Ultimately, a year or two before she died she thought a lot about her husband and decided what he did to her was really the only choice he could have made given the culture and she forgave him. She told me and my sister he was a good man and he suffered his whole life and it wasn’t fair to him—or to her. And then one night she had an emergency and we took her to the hospital. A nurse asked us to leave after a while—go home and get some rest, come back in the morning—and when we got home, there was a message on the answering machine telling us she had died. On our way out of her hospital room, my grandmother reached out her arms to me. I went to her and she squeezed my hands so hard it actually hurt me and she told me she has always been proud of me. It was shocking, and I had no idea she was going to die. I think she knew it.

I’m writing this because I know how much an event like this can affect a lot of different lives. I don’t find it particularly heartwarming when someone uses someone else and then celebrates betraying her because he is now free. I hope the wife is not too damaged by the abandonment of the person she loves.

I feel sorry for his ex-wife and his kids, no one should have to discover they were just a cover story for the person they loved.

Perfect Datalounge fodder!

So many lies...

Mormons don’t tatt, so I guess I was wrong on that. They’re probably OK on bodybuilding and posing trunks though. He’s so dorky looking in the video the near nude competition pics are a surprise. How’d he find time for all that gym work while pursuing an MD and raising a family?

He's a hottie, so I'm glad he's coming out

Based on his twitter feed he is also liberal and quite anti-Trump. A real winner here

Was he married to Helen Keller? He's as gay as a goose.

Definite BOTTOM.

He’s a doctor. Well, she really lost out, didn’t she?

Marcus, dear. EVERYONE already knew. They could see how you’ve stared at attractive men, how animated you were around them, and how you’ve flirted with them, all under the guise of denial.

GAY FACE!

Markus Boos PhD

He’s already been fucked by his new friend, who called him out on his BS, during afterglow.

Gurl.

We could see the gay from space!

This, of course, is the most important post on his Facebook, from March 15.

"I love Trixie Mattel but Shangela was ROBBED"

The mans a selfish prick. He disrupted the lives of his wife and kids for his quest for cock. I hope she takes him to the cleaners.

Who cares about the PhD... he's an MD! Medical Doctor...

And, oh yeah, he had no idea that the gym friend was gay? C'mon...

I agree that the wife had to have known...

But in the end, all's well that ends well... I love a happy ending (on my face).

[quote] quest for cock.

MARY!

She is just as nelly as pink curtains!

(What was the wife's name - Richard?)

[quote]So many lies...

Yes. It’s not just one lie. It’s a lie about everything, even the smallest, simplest things. If you something so fundamental about yourself, you lie about everything.

Fuck off and die, r81. No. Wait. Just die.

If you *lie about

I do think coming out with this video he surely hopes will go viral on social media is unfair to the wife. He should have just quietly broken things off and let her tell people around her in her own way. But the bodybuilding shows this guy to be very vain and self centered.

Sociopath? It's embarrassing, how he's likely lying about everything. Like Willis from Sean Cody — lies on top of lies.

Wait R89 What's wrong with WIllis??

R90, he lied about not realizing he'd cummed inside Aidan, and apparently he's a grifter escort, "borrowing" money and credit card numbers from clients. Hayden Perry.

[quote] Erna

Cunt

[quote] Erna

Shit eating Nazi cunt!

Seattle doctor, rides a bike. Interesting. Where did he go to school?

Wife is ... Asian? She's not Korean, but what's with his Korean tattoo? Fetish? Or did he take tae kwon do?

[quote]Or did he take tae kwon do?

Nae, he took tae cornhole!

The guy he met works in gay porn? Lies on top of lies for lies. How embarrassing for him, not for his wife.

He’ll be the “slut of all time!”.

How do you not know you are gay until someone "suggests" that you are? What a crock. EVERYONE knows who they are attracted to. Such bullshit.

That's a lot of gay voice. Was wifey deaf?

Clearly the wife has no gaydar.

It’s all about notoriety now: less about coming out.

R72 was Helen K. deaf as well?

It's sad he couldn't be honest about himself earlier, but better late than never.

I'm sure wife had long suspected, but just hoped he just seemed gay.

All joking aside, his story is sadly still all too common.

R100 yeah he expects to be celebrated

So did his lisp suddenly show up when he accepted his homosexuality?

Ivy League? I guess....

[quote] Dr. Boos was raised in the suburbs of Detroit and received a BA in Biology and Economics from Kalamazoo College in Kalamazoo, MI. He subsequently joined the Medical Scientist Training Program at the University of Chicago, where he obtained his MD and a PhD degree in Immunology. He completed an internship in Pediatrics at the University of Chicago's Comer Children's Hospital before joining the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania as a Dermatology resident.

I mean I hate what he did but I'm going to celebrate him for being attractive

sometimes, Michigan accents on men sound kinda gay.

I'd like to see what he looks like when he's not shaved for a BB contest.

Why are so many people into those bodybuilding contests? Were they always this popular?

[quote] raising twin boys with his wife of 10 years.

He spent 10+ years fucking a person he wasn't sexually attracted to? He sounds like a sado-masochist.

I've hooked up with 3 "straight" white guys before who had Asian gf's

He'll be a CockyBoys exclusive before the year is out.

r81=fish

Are there nude photos presenting hole?

Maybe he's fulla shit. I'm inclined to think so, anyway, but maybe not. Who knows? I've seen this from the other side: the 40-something housewives with teenaged kids who suddenly decide they're really big 'ol dykes. Always (in my experience, anyway) college educated women and out in the world so they can't put it down to not knowing there were muffs to dive into but they do. Fucks up the hubs, too, just as Markus here has done to Mrs. Boos. It has to be hard to figure out something like this a little too late, so I can feel for them and can't suggest they live a lie, but at the same time my sympathy doesn't erase the damage they're doing to their spouse and kids.

Putting it out there in a video, though, is not the way to go. Markus is thinking about Markus here; not his wife, not his kids.

His exhibitionism on YouTube might mean he has mental issues. NPD possibly - it includes symptoms like lying compulsively, systematically and recklessly in order to get some kind of personal benefit or advantage, even if it's to the detriment of others.

Maybe he needed a spouse for a collective mortgage or some other comfortable setup while he was still in the process of achieving professional and financial stability, or wanted kids without the hassle and high expense of adoption, etc.

Because smthg is not right with him. NPD is often left undiagnosed and untreated.

He is woke.

Most homosexuals are married to fish, fucking fish, and making babies with fish!

Here in Seattle, it's hard to tell gay from straight. The men are metrosexual and a lot of pussified pansy men that seem totally gay to me, but are with wife and kids.

I work at UW in a different department than Boos, have met him on several occasions. Dude is no more gay than every other mid-forties gym rat on our campus.

[quote]I say he has tremendous potential.

Isn't "Boos" Dutch?

[quote] Dude is no more gay than every other mid-forties gym rat on our campus.

Gay as in homosexual, not gay as in embarrassing.

R121 yes Dutch , I know someone with that last name and pronounce it BOZE.

R15 beat me to it! WW

How fucking clueless can you be? My soon-to-be 13 y/o god son, who happens to live in Red Neck Country, USA, just came out on National Coming Out Day. If this kid can do it, why can't this PhD idiot manage to figure it out.

HOW THE FUCK do 2 people, 40 years old, become IVY EDUCATED MDs PhDs and never integrate who the fuck the are????

Then again, my freshman roommate was in Pre-Med at Cornell and he was a TOTAL aspie.

R114 Sorry. That answer is incorrect. Thank you for playing.

Never have i ww'd so many in one thread.

The wisdom here is for the ages. Even our trolls are hitting it outta the park!

The unification of DL is beautiful 😍

Someone, not Tija, mentioned they look nothing like the parents. Correct. Today most twin births are the result of fertility docs as well.

The fact there are pussified straight men doesn't really factor into the shade we are throwing at this dimwit. I am sure he must be on some spectrum! It was 20 years ago when I was 30's and doing hard core biking with my professor colleagues that I noticed tons of straight guys were a lot more feminine than I was. Many of them take a lot of cues from their wives. Example - the shaving shaving shaving. My god, straight middle class married jocks and their shaving and body fat % obsession, and the perfect attire - me and the other gay guy were like squatters in comparison. Sloppy and bohemian.

R75, my stepmother used to become a completely different character among attractive women who were her "type". So animated. Giggling. We noticed.

I guess I'm the rare as a top in San Francisco when I say that I can see how someone this driven (and I think everyone can see how you have to be a driven person to become a doctor) could reach 40 years old and not come to terms with their homosexuality. To those who say that it's obvious he's a homo based on this video, I'd like to point out the video is of the "I'm from Driftwood" ilk, which was produced by big time homos who, shall we say, encourage flamboyant behavior. And yeah, he strikes me as a Mormon, too.

[quote]PhD idiot manage to figure it out.

Because the medical community is homophobic. The whole trans thing is mind boggling in this context,

He's also a pediatrician. The first thing some dumb bitch is going to do as soon as she finds out that he's gay is claim that he's innappropriately touching someone or something else.

[quote]GAY FACE!

I don't think he's ugly. That's what that means. Disfigured or abnormal.

Was his wife Asian?

Is that the Sean Cody living room?

I'm with R125! An obviously intelligent person that is clueless who they are on the most basic terms.

I love all the hatred in here about his wife. HE married her. No blame at all for him huh? Do so many of you really blame straight women for everything? Sheesh. R3 a lot of people gay/straight can't look inside themselves or self reflect. Too many gay men are wrapped up in themselves, wrapped up into what they find attractive/unattractive or simply wrapped up in the heart or dick.

"I Was Actually Being Honest With Myself For The First Time".....aka "I hated being married to that fat shrew, and I hated having to look after kids so when my gay friend told me I was gay....I KNEW I HAD MY OUT!" At least his wife is free of a man who has failed her.

[quote]Is that the Sean Cody living room?

God I wish. I’d love to see this hot bodied exhibitionist doctor dad take a dick for all the world to see. I love it when people who should know better act out sexually.

He’s hawt!

About a decade ago one of my friends introduced me to her boyfriend. He was flaming. They had met online and he was already divorced.

They married and have 2 kids, go figure.

R111- he was in a relationship w/a woman - the mother of his sons and building a life. Maybe he was sexually attracted to her as well as being sexually attracted to men. What is it about understanding that bisexuality is real? I've been married for 33 years, find my wife sexually attractive and find many men in the same way. Bisexuality is hell, let me tell you. I have said something extremely basic and almost too simplistic for a long time - it's just like when a person likes both chocolate and strawberry ice cream. And societal norms tell you - whoa, wait a minute, you have to choose one for the rest of you life and will never be allowed to enjoy the other.

He doesn't say he's bi. He says he's gay. But thank you for thinking you know more than him about himself.

R141, In the Cuban movie "Strawberry and Chocolate " the gay guy is revealed to prefer strawberry ice cream over chocolate, thus showing his true colors.

So there.

Bloomfield Hills is literally the only town in Michigan where everyone is rich.

Hmm, I think I have pretty good gaydar, and he doesn't strike me as gay -- except the bodybuilding part!

I have a feeling that those who are the deepest in the closest fly out of it the fastest.

Closeted gays and Asian girls? Everyone says males and Asian girls — start out believing they are straight. Wonder who is bf is. Anyone see him on Grindr?

[quote] How fucking clueless can you be? ... why can't this PhD idiot manage to figure it out.

[quote] HOW THE FUCK do 2 people, 40 years old, become IVY EDUCATED MDs PhDs and never integrate who the fuck the are????

It's highly likely that he knew all along, especially as a doctor with a medical degree. My bet is that he's playing it up as ‘innocently clueless’ and ‘surprised’ by this ‘out-of-the-blue revelation’ - for YouTube clicks and to lessen the blowback from his wife and kids (that you just know is coming).

Because if he didn't "know" before - then it's easier for him to argue that getting into a clusterfuck fake marriage is not his fault. It was all a "surprise" for him too, you see!

Via his YT confession, he’ll likely garner a lot of support and sympathy from the straights (who often believe that it’s normal to find out you’re gay all of a sudden when you hit 40). He’ll probably get a lot of: “Oh, same thing happened to this guy I knew! Woke up ‘suddenly gay’ on his 50th birthday!”. He can then use this public sympathy to tell his pissed off wifey: “See, see! It’s normal! It wasn’t my fault! I wasn’t lying, I just had no inkling I was gay!”.

After 10 years of marriage and 2 crying kids, it's possible he used this weird marriage for whatever goal he needed and it's no longer of any use to him. He's 'ovah' it and wants a bachelor's life and freedom. Not just to be his gay self but also as a convenient exit strategy. If he had simply quietly announced a split – it would get messy. But a sudden, well-timed coming out makes his exit more ‘sympathetic’.

I'm telling you, folks. This PhD doctor is far SMARTER than he lets on.

This guy is a narcissist. I can spot them a mile away. My nar-dar is even more finely honed than my gaydar. Listen closely to how they create a narrative. It's always about how things affect them, and how everyone still loves them and says they're amazing. No real empathy or sadness for what others go through. I pity the kids and the ex-wife. We all know lots of people who come out, including ourselves, and spouses and kids get used to it. The spouses move on. Not everyone comes to terms with who they are early in life. But you don't really get over being mindfucked by a narcissist.

Of course he's a narcissist. Look at him. And he's an Ivy educated doctor. I instinctively avoid people like that

The bodybuilding show is narcissism.

He has the vague look of someone who has mislaid a chromosome.

⚠️ ASIAN WIFE DETECTED: HIGH PROBABILITY OF MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DEFECTS ⚠️

I know someone like this (high-performing academic, not an MD) who went from one high-profile job to a higher one while shedding the wife and kids as he too, at about age 40, found out/figured out he's gay and that brown dick was more up his alley than whatever he was getting out of his marriage.

He's gone from success (amazing fundraiser: he knows how to shake the money trees) to success (deft administrator) to success (now a provost, tipped to be a university president somewhere someday soon) in his work life.

His kids are - unsurprisingly - a mess.

Oh please. His wife knew. It was an arrangement. I had a close gay friend ask me to do this for kids. I declined.

Also, why do women freak out so much when told their husbands are gay? I bet these two barely had sex. She knew, and she stayed for cash and prizes. Now she’s upset that he decided to have a life for himself, and move on.

And he’s not too sympathetic either. I have close make friends who went through this. They say they always knew, but it was expected of them to marry women, so they did.

Millennials need not go through this. We are now at a place in time where it is perfectly OK to not get married to a woman, because everyone else is.

With that body, the tats, Seattle, money, kinda crunchy earth-mom likely bisexual wife, there is no way he wasn’t fucking up a storm in that town. He was probably at Steamworks 2x a month getting worshipped and having his hole worked over. He obviously loves attention.

[quote]He's just another very selfish man who had no problem knowingly ruining some woman's life & his kid's lives by pretending he was the loving husband and father they thought they had. The only reason he finally came out was because he'd had all of the con he could take.

Oh, ffs, MARY, couples get divorced all the time, for zillions of different reasons, and it rarely ruins their lives or their kids' lives. Yeah, it's weird and suspicious that it took this obvious queen so long to figure out he was gay. And, yeah, in that video, anyway, he expresses disturbingly little remorse for deceiving his wife for 10+ years. But in the end, they're BOTH going to get over it and live better, happier lives NOT trying to make things work in a marriage that's fundamentally unworkable. As for the kids, sounds like he's been maintaining a good relationship with them all along.

He's a wanker!

In this guy's case, I believe he did a horrible thing by coming out to his wife. In another ten years, his sons would be adults and he could then reveal himself to his wife if she hadn't already figured it out. Everyone makes mistakes, but I don't think anyone but the one who made the mistake should take on the responsibility of correcting it. Here is an example where one makes a mistake and all involved with him share in the misery. This doesn't sit well with my sense of fairness.

He has gay voice I dont even understand how his wife wouldnt know. But I’ve seen many male pediatricians with the gayest voices and mannerisms imaginable and they are married to a woman and have kids. There must be women out there who are just attracted to femmiest of men, like yuzuru hanyu or timothy chalamet fangirls.

She picked him!

Gay from space.

But he also seems like a chronic liar.

[quote]He's a wanker! —and not the good way...

There's a bad way to wank?

I don’t understand how this happens. I get that it (apparently) does, but I can’t fathom it. I knew when I was 12, despite not knowing much about sex in general at that age. How do people get to their 30s and 40s before they know? Are they retarded?

Some gay guys suppress their true feelings and go the route this guy took. When they reach a certain age, in this case the midlife crisis stage their true feelings come out.

They know. Coming to a “realization” looks better better than lying to everyone my whole life. But, I hope most people know better when gay men say these kinds of things.

LOL he knew the whole time and was having plenty of hot man sex. He just decided he didn't want to hide it anymore and also wanted praise and adoration for his coming out video

What an asshole.

Maybe he should have think before marrying.

I think he is bi.

The twins were probably ivf babies. R157 lives in a fucking bubble if he really think divorce rarely has an affect on children’s lives. You’re not Stefonknee are you?

Classic narcissist. No remorse for lying for 10+ years to his wife, but has to make a Fucking public declaration about how much of a liar he was and how he’s ~finally free!~. He couldn’t save his ex-wife the extra heartache? He had to announce it to the white planet earth? What a piece of shit. I bet money his kids will grow up to think he’s a douche.

I feel bad for his wife, who wasted her youth on a man who was never attracted to her and doesn’t care how his actions impact her. And now she’s PUBLICALLY humiliated, with random strangers calling her ugly.

I'm with R7, just as likely bisexual.

Agree R171 Come out if you want, but why blast a video to the world while still married. Their kids friends will all see it and certainly tease them over it

He is a narcissist asshole, that's why.

He wants to be praised for telling his "truth", total snowflake.

I wouldn’t want his penis in my mouth after it had been in...that thing.

My favorite part is how he explains how free he felt riding his bike home up and down the hills, almost like a ducking Kate Bush song. Then he gets home, and reality finally hits him.

Also, all of the suffering and anguish he went through when forced to sleep in the Mother In Law guest room. He describes it as living in a cave, below the bowels of pre-dawn civilization. Geez.

Paging Dr. Closet!

You spend HOURS at the gym, hanging and working out with men you didn’t know were gay, and no one told you, until you were 40??? And a gay man told you, by illustrating a story from his childhood???

Funny, how he was able to IMMEDIATELY admit it to his BFF gym partner immediately, but not his wife, who had to ask him why purses full of rainbows weren’t falling out of his mouth at dinner.

Lol, a bodybuilder with an Asian wife is a latent homosexual? Stop the presses

Pussy is icky...

I just don't find these stories amusing. They are true tragedies.

Well, here’s the good thing that came out of that marriage: his kids.

The kids will be OK. And both parents are smart. Good genes, and they will probably grow up to pretty decent people, who are liberal, and love the gays.

R179, how is this a tragedy? I think we’ve all seen true tragedies. This isn’t one of them. MARY!

Is anyone else at this gym a fan of the June Taylor dancers?

Let's hit the showers, boys!

He goes by MARCUS. I thing that should have set off a few alarms.

R182 - Markus with a “k” gurl!

[quote]Listen closely to how they create a narrative. It's always about how things affect them, and how everyone still loves them and says they're amazing.

That sounds like every trans.

It would actually be ironic if Dr. Boos ends up with a Millennial partner who, 10 years down the line, starts "being honest with himself" and comes out as a Trans-person and proceeds to "transition", similar to Bruce Jenner.

I’d love to see Dr. Boos in the sling at fellow Seattlites Dan and Terry’s house.

[quote] Millennials need not go through this. We are now at a place in time where it is perfectly OK to not get married to a woman, because everyone else is.

Some were already in this place long before the Millennial era. Interestingly, many truly GREAT people and geniuses never cared about any expectations to marry, never succumbed to any peer pressure, and never used marriage as a cover up, or to please their parents, or to meakly fit in with the rest of the 'herd'. The Greats (both bachelor straight guys and gay guys) couldn't give two fucks what anybody else thought of them. They had the backbone to basically say: "I don't want to get married or deal with crying babies - so I won't and that's final. Make of that what you will, I don't care".

Da Vinci never married. Michelangelo never married. Beethoven never married. Isaac Newton never married. Nikola Tesla never married. Neither of the Wright brothers (inventors of the airplane) ever married.

Henry David Thoreau (who wrote "Walden and Civil Disobedience") never married and was even ideologically vehemently against the entire concept of marriage.

So long before the Millennial era, there were many Pioneers who showed that it was ok (and even ideologically superior) to not enter into fake dysfunctional marriages or breed like animals just to please other people.

Ya he's a narcissistic asshole but I very much wanna suck his cock and fuck and get fucked by him

R186 wouldn't it be funny if Mrs Savage was the gym buddy?

R187, agree with you 100%.

[quote][R157] lives in a fucking bubble if he really think divorce rarely has an affect on children’s lives

I didn't say divorce has NO affect on children's lives; I said it doesn't RUIN their lives. Good lord.

[quote]In this guy's case, I believe he did a horrible thing by coming out to his wife. In another ten years, his sons would be adults and he could then reveal himself to his wife if she hadn't already figured it out.

So lying to his wife for 10 more years and enticing her to waste another 10 years being married to a gay guy would be better than coming out now? And a closeted gay man is a better father than an openly gay man? Interesting theories.

Oh, the divorce hopefully won't mess up the kids too much. It's more likely the somewhat shattering realisation that one of the parents (an authority figure for them) so easily lied and mislead others for a whole decade that might cause deep-rooted emotional trust issues for those kids as adults.

I have a family member who is a compulsive liar and lead a double life (not gay, other things). He eventually confessed it years later, and the family separated. His son now has trust issues in his relationships, and is paranoid that his partners are deceiving him too. He knows that imploded his parents' marriage and is projecting the same fears of dishonesty on his own relationships.

Lying with a smile on his face.

What I fail to understand is the video. Why make such a big fuss? He’s not a public figure. If so, then the video would make a little more sense. I’m of the belief that public figures do not to explain this to the masses, but I understand when a politician or a community leader, such as a pastor, does so.

Those men are very selfish.

So he's a pathological liar.

He's gonna run into the wrong one and get his narcissistic sociopatholigacal ass killed.

Can't come soon enough. Just die. Good for nothing now.

Agreed, R198. He's a sociopath. I see an incident at the bathhouse in his future.

Just fuckin' die already, you load

Okay this is getting a little weird. He should die?!?!

R186 - I’m sure this bitch has done that and a whole lot more. This guy is so full of it, if it weren’t for the body and impressive credentials, no one would give a shit. His own family will look back years from now and see it themselves.

Social media has given people this notion that they’re celebrities.

He's very hot and I'm glad he's having lots of man sex now. Great body and face. And looks like he has a big dick

He used her as a breeding machine. Very Romneyesque.

Jesus, that thumbnail alone was enough for me to know.

He's a perfect catch

I think into Asian men mainly.

*he's into

R187 maybe the guys really want children?

[quote][R111]- he was in a relationship w/a woman - the mother of his sons and building a life. Maybe he was sexually attracted to her as well as being sexually attracted to men. What is it about understanding that bisexuality is real? I've been married for 33 years, find my wife sexually attractive and find many men in the same way. Bisexuality is hell, let me tell you. I have said something extremely basic and almost too simplistic for a long time - it's just like when a person likes both chocolate and strawberry ice cream. And societal norms tell you - whoa, wait a minute, you have to choose one for the rest of you life and will never be allowed to enjoy the other.

r141, a few points:

1 - how is bisexuality 'hell' exactly? You are married to a woman you are sexually/romantically attracted to, you for all intents and purposes live your life and are viewed by the outside world as a straight man, with all the benefits this affords. This is in no way comparable to a gay man feeling trapped in a sham marriage.

2 - the fact that you find other people attractive outside of your marriage is in no way unique. Again, you are no different to all the other straight married men who find other women attractive, except in your case it's also men.

3 - I tend to agree that this guy is bisexual. I don't believe that any homosexual reaches maturity without knowing they are homosexual, they may deny it to themselves and others, but they do know. Bisexuality seems much more complex. I've heard bisexuals explain how their attractions between the sexes can shift/change over time, a 'bi-cycle' they call it.

Those kids have to be adopted. The wife barely looks Asian.

Even at his peak in the bodybuilding contest pics, this guy ain't all that.

If I was his wife, I'd toss his ass out on the street. Of course, if I was his wife and had sight and hearing I never would have married this queeny ass clown anyway, regardless of his career potential.

R213 if it was just the body, sure I'd agree he's not all that. But he's also handsome and an Ivy League educated doctor

Me mally doctor of amerika

Did you all miss that the wife is also an Ivy-league educated doctor??

No reason she needed to marry this lisping fool for money or DNA.

Not that important but everyone like R88 seems to miss the point that the bodybuilding competition entry was something that was done as a charity fundraising event...

Thanks r217 so he's not a narcissist. He's a good guy. And hot

At least he's not posting selfies daily on Instagram.

If somebody would put a Dick in his mouth he would STFU.

Just a matter of time, now that he's out, R219.

He clearly says in the video that this happened three years ago yet in true DL fashion, many of the people commenting are acting like he just texted a link of the video to his wife this past week

I hope he reports straight back to us after he's had dick for the first time.

Notice he talks about his kids but not about her.

I think I'd be more sympathetic to him if he realised his nature by falling in love with the friend who suggested he was attracted to men. Seems odd that a random conversation without the involvement of a third party would subsequently lead to this "epiphany". Perhaps he's not sharing everything. I had a bisexual ex who told me that he honestly only grew to be attracted to men his third or fourth year in university. I could believe that, as my ex was highly immature, single, childless, and never had married. This seems like an odd case indeed if his epiphany was really so instantaneous. Anyone else here think he's omitting crucial details? I'm a sap, as I feel sorry for all of them really. Better the young wife can get a head start on a new husband I suppose, rather than his trudging along for the sake of his family. Those of us who have always known ought to take pride in our self knowledge and courage to be ourselves. I know I'm grateful.

[quote]What I fail to understand is the video. Why make such a big fuss? He’s not a public figure.

To stick it to his wife, perhaps?

[Quote]he's had dick for the first time

If you think this guy has never hooked up with a guy I have a bridge to sell you.

[quote]Perhaps he's not sharing everything.

He’s a pathological liar who’s been sucking cock since high school.

Thanks for reaffirming my initial and very negative assumptions of him. R227 / R228. I'm not naïve just British. This is the subtlety with which we approach these matters... My questioning was only as far as I was comfortable going on my own (merely rhetorical) . I did initially believe he could be bisexual before watching his video.

The moment I heard that voice...Oh, honey

Sorry------I don't buy the whole "I didn't know" lie-----that's something closet queens throw out to dumb wives and judgmental families.......I had a gay friend once tell me he only married his wife so he could be a father----then dumped her with a divorce after she produced 2 brats....

R230 You made me laugh just now, so hard... cheers!

He’s not hot. He’s average, which is perfectly more than acceptable. His Ivy education is not the end all. Plenty of ILs are insufferable cunts.

[quote] maybe the guys really want children?

Which guys, R210?

In Boos' case, it's highly likely his wifey got primary custody of the 2 young kids after the divorce (as they're under the age of 10 or so). So if his plan was to get a brood for himself (without the expense of adoption, etc), it sort of eventually blew up in his face. He won't be living with the kids - so he won't even see them on a daily basis. He and and the ex-spouse might end up living in different states later on, so he might have to travel far for visitations.

The irony is that his 'elite' background would have actually given him a significant advantage in an adoption scenario. He's a pediatrician doctor (i.e. smn who specialises on children's health) with a PhD degree, probably makes good money, lives in an affluent area in a very liberal city (Seattle) - his adoption application would have been top of the list.

*specialises in

[quote]Anyone else here think he's omitting crucial details?

R225 Does he say anything about his relationship with his wife? If they were not close that could have been a factor in his coming out.

The woman in the picture upthread with his kids is not his ex wife. It's not easy to find his wife, who is very Asian looking and has an Asian last name. The kids look like both this dude and the wife.

The kids are drop dead gorgeous. Those children won the generic lottery, all the way around.

Oh honey. G-A-Y. Who wasnt fooled?

Boos' professional CV bio on the official website of the Seattle's Hospital (where he works) includes the following specification:

[quote] "As a gay father, Markus enjoys spending free time with his children."

He's really OTT and attention-seeking about this. I don't understand his compulsion to UNDERSCORE everywhere, even on his work bio, that he is (specifically) a "gay" father. Should bisexual surgeons also proclaim on their CVs that they are "BISEXUAL" fathers? Should lesbian nurses highlight on a Hospital's website that they are (specifically) "LESBIAN" mothers. What about asexual physicians with adopted kids - should they underscore on the Hospital's website that they are "ASEXUAL"?

Boos seems really thirsty about his new 'status' and wants to broadcast it as if it's smthg original (especially in Seattle, of all places). It's not enough for him to do a public YouTube video, he even put it on his professional CV.

If he really wanted to include a trivial blurb about his private life and hobbies on his CV, then the standard format is usually far more general: e.g. "Dr. Boos enjoys playing tennis and spending time with his 2 children."

Since Boos is so keen on oversharing about his recent 'revelation' on his CV, perhaps he should also include the less congratulatory info about himself. Like the fact that he's a "divorced father" and should be in therapy for decade-long honesty issues.

I'll also add that the sentence structure of his CV blurb just doesn't flow.

"As a gay father, Markus enjoys spending free time with his children". This seems to indicate a cause-and-effect relationship: he's a "gay father" and therefore "enjoys...". But the qualifier makes the sentence a bit nonsensical. He doesn't "enjoy spending time with his children" because he's a "gay father" - he enjoys it because he's simply a "[/italic]father[italic]", regardless of being gay or not. The specification that he's "gay" is superfluous in this specific sentence.

It's the same as saying: "As a gay son, Markus is very respectful of his parents". Or: "As a gay dog-owner, Markus likes playing with his dog". The qualifier "gay" is superfluous in such sentences and makes them sound weird.

If he really, really wanted to proclaim his new gay status, he should have written instead (in the 3rd person, as usual for website bios): "Markus is gay. He is a father and enjoys spending time with his children."

He wants everyone to know he is gay, to acquire those extra SJW and diversity points.

Totally agree with R147. This guy is a self-centered user and loser. HIs kids will see that clearly when they are older.

And I agree with R147 that acquiring the wife and kids were about accomplishing a specific goal.

“And looks like he has a big dick”

Now come on already. Where do you get this from? Did you make it up?

This has been going on on DL for as far back as I can remember. The tiniest tiny meat and some fool goes on about how big...

I don’t get it. I just don’t get that. Please explain yourself. It hurts my brain.

Dude did not go to an Ivy League school. Where do you people get this crap?

Are we reading the same thread?

OK - I know several married men who came out late. All were driven professionals. I think they sublimate sex drive to their careers. Still, all of them - ALL - had “experimented” with man sex. A few were too scared to leave the wife-provided, socially acceptable safety net.

One night over dinner, a gay-voiced 35 year old medical colleague, who considered me his closest gay friend, asked a similar “what do you think I’m really like” question. As did this guy’s gym buddy, I told him.

He broke down and confessed his strong, lifelong attraction to men. Literally shuddered with joy at declaring it out loud. Then cried for like 1/2 a hour. Finally said he loved everything about his wife except her lack of a cock.

I said he had a decision to make.

He went home. Told his wife he was gay, and that they needed to separate their lives. She (ferociously, he later confessed) pussywhipped him back into the closet. Told him he’d lose Everything.

Our friendship fell apart (surprise) because she also said I was the devil incarnate, and that he should have nothing to do with me.

I don’t think young kids need to be learning about gay or pride flags or anything about sex or relationships until they are mature and can understand it all.

That goes for straights too. Kids don’t need to be discussing sex or relationships until they are mature.

It’s just not a kid topic imo.

Disagree sharply. I think kids should learn about sexuality earlier. And better to learn from parents than other kids at school who don't know what they are talking about.

Agree, R249.

That is so trashy imo.

Why would you want to talk to a toddler about sex? Some people are just crazy.

What do you think it will do to them r252. Sex is a natural part of being human. It's not a bad thing or something that should be secret. Americans put too much importance on it

You don't talk to young children about sex Acts, for crying out loud, you talk to them about sex pairings.

“Some families are boy and girl, Paul and Jane; some are girl and girl, Susan and Jane; and some are boy and boy, Paul and Larry. All are families.”

Further details can wait till “The Talk.”

[quote] A few were too scared to leave the wife-provided, socially acceptable safety net. One night over dinner, a gay-voiced 35 year old medical colleague ...

R247, do you live in a Mormon enclave? Except for Fundie communities, I don't buy this "wife-provided socially acceptable safety net" excuse. It's perfectly acceptable for guys to be e.g. 35 and not married. In fact, young guys who are still struggling financially or busy getting their budding careers off the ground are often socially expected NOT to marry yet. Because marriage (and kids) are expensive, and a guy is often expected to pay for the whole family. So young guys are often expected to hold off on marriage - until they can afford it. If you're still paying off your student loans (during your 20s or even early 30s), can't afford a good car yet, can't afford a house or mortgage yet, if you're working long hours as a junior doctor - no one will expect you to marry.

^I'll add that the above obviously doesn't apply to females. Females are on a much shorter biological fertility clock, so they are socially expected to marry young. Guys are often expected to marry only after they become financially successful - if they struggle career-wise all through their 20s and 30s, then it's perfectly fine for them to only marry in their 40s.

That's why marriages between young females (20s) and older males (40s) are so socially acceptable. It's considered very wise and practical for males to first focus on their careers and prove themselves as successful and good providers. And it's considered very smart for females to not marry their (still struggling) same-age peers and marry more socially established males who are older and more successful and therefore can take better care of a family.

[quote]If you're still paying off your student loans (during your 20s or even early 30s), can't afford a good car yet, can't afford a house or mortgage yet, if you're working long hours as a junior doctor - no one will expect you to marry.

I work with a lot of doctors and trainees. Most of them pair off during medical school or early in their residencies and get married. Many also start having children during residency. If you’re 30+, and not seriously involved with someone, it starts to look suspect.

[quote]I don’t think young kids need to be learning about gay or pride flags or anything about sex or relationships until they are mature and can understand it all.

I went though this with a close friend I was having dinner with him and his 3 daughters ages 9-13 when he came out to them. It was no surprise since they figured it out long ago.

[quote] If you’re 30+, and not seriously involved with someone, it starts to look suspect.

"Suspect", R257? Perhaps in a rural hospital in Utah. But in most big cities, many Yuppies and careerists stay single well into their mid-30s and even 40s. Many people working in banks, law firms, accountancy firms, etc. don't have TIME to date or form meaningful relationships (not to mention have kids) when they work 60+ hours a week in their 20s and 30s. Young medics often work long hours too. That's why there are so many 30+ single people on dating apps.

R65, thank your for sharing a very moving story from your life and family's history and the fine insights you have applied to it. I wish DL had more posts like that, rather than the one or two sentence contributions that predominate and don't amount to much except shallow posturing and flippant remarks.

R241, thank you for your astute explication of that superfluity. This is exactly why sentence diagramming should still be taught in elementary and junior high school. The erosion of that practice from the curriculum over the years has genuinely dumbed-down the general literacy and communication skills of our country. This man has a Ph.D., for cripe's sake, and he's constructing dumb-assed statements like that one.

Or, R259, they could simply be dating in Europe.

R261, I don't think most of Western Europe is that different from the States in that regard. Weren't US TV shows about straights dating (like Sex and the City) based on a bunch of female Gen X 30+ year-old Yuppies and their similar-aged male counterparts? It seemed to resonate a lot and hit a nerve with audiences in both big US and European cities, where there are tons of 30+ year-olds who are still single.

How many weddings are regularly occurring between women in their 20s and men in their 40s? I struggle to think of exactly one example in my extended circle, and they were divorced within 2 years. Everyone thinks he’s a big closet case, so there’s also that (both are very religious)

That depends on your "circle", R263. The richer the straight guy, the more likely he is to enjoy life as a free bachelor who can play around openly in his 20s-early 30s (without marrying or committing) until hitting his mid-30s or even 40. Why settle down and take on huge responsibility for a wife and kids so early, when instead you can date or screw around, build your business, travel and see the world, etc.? And by the time he hits his mid-30s or early 40s, and has had his fill of adventure and wants a family (because he's starting to age), it's normal for guys to be more attracted to younger females.

I know plenty of rich straight guys who are around 40 and only now getting married (to females in their late 20s). Some of the guys lived it up in their 20s and 30s as serial daters (playboys), some are not particularly attractive so couldn't find a partner until they became rich, some were assholes and ruined all their relationships until they mellowed down by 40.

R246, he went to U Penn.

Um, hello???

Sweet story.

I have no idea why him or his wife did not have a clue. It's kind of weird when people never examine themselves. If you are hardly ever having sex with your mate...don't you feel like something is wrong?

Don't drink the Koolaid, R266.

R266, it is a sweet story, but it's sad, too. I feel sorry for the wife. Saw a guy today, who is a state legislator. I've known him as an acquaintance from the gym for many years. He's good-looking, and he did not get married until later in life. He's in his mid-fifties. He voted against legalizing marriage equality in my state, and he made a mealy-mouthed speech explaining why while acknowledging the contributions of the gay community in his district. At the time, there were rumors about his sexuality, and someone asked me if I knew whether he was gay. I have no idea what his sexuality is. I see him with his wife and three children. She is very nice.

Reading this thread makes me recall the speculation about the man I know. I cannot imagine the feeling of betrayal his wife would experience, if it turned out that her husband were gay. Yeah, I'm glad the guy in OP's link has the courage to be true to himself. His wife deserves sympathy, too. It's a betrayal perhaps deeper than if the wife found out about an affair with another woman. She would also feel used...believing her marriage a complete sham.

The wife probably had a very low sex drive, in order for her to marry him, without scratching her head, and wondering: Why won’t he fuck me, AGAIN?

No straight woman with a normal or abundant sex drive, under the age of 40, who wants kids, deals with something like this.

And then after 40, plenty of women want sex even more than ever. Especially if done with having kids. So I’m guessing she did not enjoy sex, or wasn’t jonesing for his dick too often.

R265 A residency at Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania is professional training, not an Ivy education.

[quote] Better the young wife can get a head start on a new husband I suppose

She might face an uphill battle. How old is the Asian wife again, 40?

She's approaching over-the-hill status, comes with 2 small kids, and was married to a gay guy for a freakin' decade - that's a lot of psychological baggage. Not sure many straight guys will want to wife her up again and take on all that complicated baggage.

R106 tried to correct people. He went to normal college (Kalamazoo), and an elite grad school (University of Chicago) but one that is not part of Ivy League.

The guy is a dual MD/PhD which is incredibly impressive, but I swear people are just obsessed with throwing around the term "ivy league". Plenty of high educated people did not do their education through the ivy league.

I

The University of Chicago, it can be argued is more elite than The Ivies. It has more Nobel Laureates and prize winners, and is seen by those outside the US as on par with Oxford and Cambridge.

Chicago is undoubtedly a better school than the lower tier ivies, I mean c'mon Chicago vs Cornell is not a debate, that is precisely why the obsession with the "ivy league" is stupid.

The frau bookclubs, gurls' nights with cheap white wine, and fibro support groups can keep him.

R274 I know people here in the States who were not accepted at The University of Chicago, but were taken by Yale, Brown, and Harvard. None were legacies of those schools. The U of C is incredibly expensive too.

Just a tidbit, but for undergraduates it appears tuition & R&B is a bit shy of 100K according first google hit.

Is U of C a public school? If so, tuition should be like 1k a month. Tops.

R278 PRIVATE, very private. Began by the Rockefellers.

R278 It also is home to the renowned Laboratory Schools, or The Lab... nursery, elementary & secondary schools.

R74, did she put him through Med School?

^ love you Betty!

Leopold and Loeb were Chicago Lab students.

He’s not bi

R270, thanks for the correction. I skimmed over some info on the thread and missed that pretty important detail.

university of chicago is only good for economics.

R286 Right. (sarcasm)

[quote]So what his wife revenge tactic.

She wants revenge for choosing to be a fag hag? Revenge for what?

I wonder who the mysterious gay guy is going to be in Cameron Fontana's eventually outing? A DL-er perhaps?