How many years did you do meth?

How are you single?

[quote]Thankfully, that guy also happened to be such a sweet, warm man. He was adamant about using condoms when he fucked me (it was meth that made me start and crave bottoming).

Uh-huh.

When I think meth orgy weekend, I think safe sex.

I have a fuckbud who does meth regularly. I do not and have not ever used the stuff. He gets completely unhinged sexually when he's high, obsessed with porn, jacking off, crazy sexual fantasies, unremittingly hypersexual. I find his behavior simultaneously funny and unnerving. He is not interested in safe sex or screening his partners carefully when high. This has led to occasional trouble for him.

I've also run into guys who were tweeking when I met up with them for sex. It's usually similar to my bud. They're sorta out of control, often sweaty, rambling, and have strange issues with dim lighting and loud music. The sex is usually good, but I realize it's because they're high and it detracts some from the experience.

Never done meth.

Sugar is my drug!

WHORE!

I tried meth twice, with the same guy, an Asian pediatrician with a huge dick.

I didn't like it.

Meth made it hard for me to get erect but desperately want to cum, which doesn't work well when you're mostly a top.

No thanks, not for me; I was always more of a pot-head, back when I did drugs on a regular basis.

Had a good friend who started using meth daily (he was already a heroin addict) and after a year he found he had congestive heart failure due to meth. 32 years old.

LEAVE THAT SHIT ALONE! ALL OF IT! SMOKE WEED AND DRINK IN MODERATION AND THAT'S IT!

[quote]Had a good friend who started using meth daily (he was already a heroin addict) and after a year he found he had congestive heart failure due to meth. 32 years old.

Pussy. Some of us lasted WAY longer than 32!

I had a good friend who started using meth daily (he was already a heroin addict), and he died.

Do people still do meth?

I tried it and hated it. The high was not good and the after effect sucked. One day I met a guy on grindr and he said I should butt chug it (shooting a syringe full in the rectum). I did it and holy fuck the high was incredible. The sex on it was so hot. After the come down, I realized I would be out of control on it if I ever did it again like that. So not since I was 23 (about 10 years ago).

I watched a porn of a guy slamming it for the first time. I would NEVER do it but the high looked so intense it made me curious but I hate needles.

None. I get high on poetry, thanks.

Meth is making personal problems someone else's problems.

5-6 years. I'm down to about 2-3 times a year now. More into watching other guys fuck than anything ..

1996 - 2002 so about six years.

My friend is on year 14 and had his teeth turn brown, around year 3, absolute SHIT breath you could smell meters away, dropped out of life to hole up with BF for a decade. Yet maintains a good corporate job. I do NOT understand. They all know he is a meth head.

I've never done it but have been considering some rough trade who I know smokes it daily. My instincts say no, but he has a fantastic body and I really want to fuck him while concentrating on his prostate and playing with his nipples. (seriously, I've had the scenario going on in my head for what I want to do with him for months. But then I hear that men have a hard time having orgasm on it. so I don't know if I could give him a great orgasm, and I feel like a failure if a guy doesn't have an orgasm that takes at least 10 minutes to recover from.

I have never used any drugs but i like to hear your self-destructive stories.

Been using recreationally for 20+ years. These days my long-term bf and I will have a big weekend every 8-10 weeks. We'll clear all plans, stock up on supplies (electrolyte drinks, banana smoothie ingredients, lube, weed, sleeping aids) and literally spend the entire weekend fucking each other senseless (with a few hours sleep in there somewhere). It takes days to recover but it's absolutely worth it, and it's been good for our relationship. We've both seen plenty of what out-of-control meth use does to people, so we're careful to keep it occasional. Scold away!

I've tried almost every kind of drug. They can be really fun but I know I don't have an addictive personality. I have a very strong will. Even as good as some felt, I never needed or wanted to do them even semi-regularly.

Good lord. I was a sex addict for years—until I started drinking kratom (which kills much of your sex drive) and started a long term relationship. I don’t think I would have needed meth to enhance my sexual appetite or my pleasure. Seriously, I was *driven* to cruise for dick. Total slut. Would spend a couple hours every day, at least, trying to get off with the hottest guy I could.

I’ve never done meth because the comedown sounds awful, I’m scared of harder drugs, and I’m sure I would turn into an addict almost immediately. Scary.

R23=Senatrix Graham

Never, though I have tried everything else.

It’s one of those drugs like heroin where I say “why”. The rest of your life you have an image of something that pursuing will kill you and/or ruin your life. Grateful that I’ve never tired. Did coke in my 20s and could see getting hooked on that. Can’t imagine meth. And alcohol is a dangerous enough drug to play with. Pot really is the best thing going.

[quote]...that guy also happened to be such a sweet, warm man.

Uhm, no. Sweet warm men don't introduce guys to deadly addictive shit like meth.

Gays are so fucked, they'll trade in health, wellness and their lives for "hot sex" while high on adulterated street drugs made with cold medicine, lye, and battery chemicals in a dirty bucket by toothless criminals. I'd say people who do meth even once have a damaged risk assessment faculty. Oh, and no matter what they've said or typed here they're ALL POZ. No thanks, I'm fine.

I wonder how many people were lured into meth by breaking bad. Yes it portrayed meth use negatively but the drug itself still got a strange sort of allure from the show.

Never tried it.

Don’t plan to.

I tried it once several years ago. I had done regular pharmaceutical grade speed on and off years before and never had a problem with it. A tiny amount of meth made me feel like I'd slipped directly into hell. Could not wait till it was over and vowed never to touch it again.

Never. This drug is for losers.

don't understand the appeal, at all.

It's cut with who knows what? Why do people believe drug dealers? They are scum.

Nope, not poz r27 . This'll make you clutch so hard your head will fall off but guess what? Most meth users are heterosexual. And guess what else? Lots of people manage to use illicit drugs and keep their shit together. I'm willing to bet I'm in better health than you are. The trouble with US drug 'education' strategies is that when people discover that they aren't turned into drooling, criminal addicts after trying a given drug once, they then disregard all of the other panic-merchant bullshit they're told about drug use. People use drugs - always have, always will - and telling them to 'just say no' works as well now as it did when Nancy tried it in the 80. Your poz-shaming bullshit shows how clueless you are, but thanks for sharing anyway...

Never.

Zero. Meth users always seemed so skeevy.

Just one. I stopped when I turned 25 this year.

[quote]I tried meth twice, with the same guy, an Asian pediatrician

Well, that inspires confidence...those poor kids getting treated by a doctor who gets fucked up on meth. The guy should lose his license.

tried it a handful of times 15 years go. Incredible high, glad I couldn't get my hands on it more as I'd probably would have had a problem.

[quote]R33 And guess what else? Lots of people manage to use illicit drugs and keep their shit together. I'm willing to bet I'm in better health than you are.

Well, what [italic] I [/italic] admire is that you’ve stayed so humble.

I'm guessing the poz shaming guy is a deplorable since I already had him blocked.

Shame junkie and a deplorable in one package: it's like getting a box of Cracker Jack with TWO crappy prizes in it!

It’s not “poz shaming” to be exasperated by stupid junkie whores who couldn’t reach for a condom. Or 20.

Yes, r41, it is exactly "poz shaming" to be "exasperated by stupid junkie whores" who end up poz. Dumbass.

Years ago I did it when friends were using it on weekends to party, it just made me hyper alert, and totally non sexual, also made me feel cranky and on edge. But it was really great as a diet drug, because one big hit and you don't feel hungry for at least 12 hours, so I used it for awhile to lose weight but never enjoyed the effect of the drug.

I love how r21/r33 nomchalantly thinks he is so unaffected by it all but meanwhile he types nastier and more virulently than anyone else.

Why are most 'out' homosexuals on drugs?

To each their own, but I never found the meth "high" all that amazing. Strangely enough, it is over-hyped IMO. Cocaine is far better IMO. Meth just lasts a LOT, LOT, LOT longer - way too long. As for sex - YES, you get very horny at various stages of the high - which can be fun or just really annoying. As a top, you really need to know when you will and when you will not get hard, because it will drive you insane otherwise. As for the hangover - I have no idea how people can do this stuff on a daily basis. The 2 day hangover is HELL. I have not tried heroine as I am not a fan of opiates in general (not to mention that I have no interest in injecting anything ever..), but I assume that it must be more exciting than tina. Also, it is far more deadly. At least very few seem to overdose on meth.

[quote]R21 my long-term bf and I will have a big weekend every 8-10 weeks. We'll clear all plans, stock up on supplies (electrolyte drinks, banana smoothie ingredients, lube, weed, sleeping aids) and literally spend the entire weekend fucking each other senseless ...it's been good for our relationship.

Why can’t you two do all that without the meth?

I fucking love it!

How do you know what's really in the meth you buy?

[quote]How many years did you do meth?

It was slightly longer than beating my wife.

I used to be a “try anything” gayling in my 20s after a lifetime of being told everything I thought and did was wrong. I got through that ok to realize the distinctions between what was truly good or bad for me - and not what society or religion told me. But really grateful that heroin and meth were not available easily. As much as I understand the desire to try it, they are drugs that my logical risk/reward instinct always made me avoid.

At 42, I’m really grateful that I never experienced sex on meth or the bliss of heroin. I’ve learned emotional short cuts don’t provide true happiness and the repercussions are life-changing and will forever affect your view of true human emotions. When I’m in extreme pain or dying of cancer, I’ll be happy to do it. But in the meantime, trying to figure out how to be happy - or at least not unhappy - with the power of my natural mind.

R45) You ask why most "out" homosexuals are on drugs. It only seems that way to "out" hererosexuals whose knowledge of statistics, causation and correlation is limited to that garnered from Cosmo.

I work in HR for a major bank in Manhattan and am active in the gay chorus world. I have been through so much with meth over the last decade and have lost boyfriends I really cared about who came home to find me shacked up with strangers in bed surrounded by pipes. So far no one at my job really has figured it out. I live in fear that they will. I have been able to mostly control my binges to long weekends or Easter vacations where I can go back to my family in Racine and recoup in private. I know this is classic dry drunk behavior and my controlling checklist/micromanaging personality is just compensation. will end badly but meth gives me the hugs I crave. And my dental bills are outlandish...

- My whole public facade is a lie. I am going to end up homeless and then dead.

Hard drugs are for losers and the damaged. That’s all.

If anyone is spinning out of control with illicit drug abuse, then I urge you to seek help today. Take that first step. You don't have to see where the staircase will eventually lead. Just take that first step. You can do it. You SHOULD do it. Today. Best wishes.

I've tried a number of drugs and am surprised how only some of them affect me.

Cocaine and pot do nothing for me. Meth makes me horny and does Molly. G only sort of does. I only use drugs to enhance sex.. I like Molly the most because it makes me "love" the guy I'm with. Molly just seems the most difficult to find.

I find coke users the worst. They just want to talk and talk about sex but not actually do it. Plus, I've known too many chronic coke users who ended up with body problems related to coke-heart attacks, kidney blood blockages, erosion of the nose, etc

Stolen from another thread:

Um, NONE.

R33, you're a fucking loser. Go kill yourself. Oh wait, you already are.

You folks who use this stuff...even occasionally...don't you ever think about your heath?

Heart attacks...strokes...alzheimer's. Getting older is tough enough physically ...why make things even worse?

It will catch up with you.

He must be the exception to the rule.

A neighbor whom I considered a friend succumbed to his meth addiction last week...I’m not surprised he died, but I am very sad about it. Poor guy. At least he’s no longer suffering.

What was the cause of death R63?

My friend on year 14 of his meth habit has lost his teeth but kept his bf and good, corporate job. His teeth got horrendous quickly and I just don't get how he was able to work with shit brown teeth that smelled of shit from far away.

Drugs can be fun like drinking can be fun. It is an intense, euphoric feeling but I don't see how anyone can do hard drugs daily or weekly. The come down is terrible. They don't make good drugs anymore. I tried crack when I was 21 because I was depressed and wanted out of life. I thought I would become addicted instantly and, though I liked it, the come down prevented me from doing it except a few more times that year. When I was 29, I tried it again with a boyfriend and it was good but nothing like it was when I was 21. Never felt the urge to try it again. Did coke some but again, come down sucks and gave me sinus issues for weeks. No thanks!

I have a friend (former friend) that uses meth almost daily. The comedowns don't affect him, because he doesn't really ever come down.

Severe Cock Withdrawal.

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[quote]R64 What was the cause of death?

I cannot imagine being in that state (high) continuously. Once the dopamine or whatever has flooded your brain for x amount of time, the high is not there.

Yeah R69, the guy in R66 is only maintaining at this point, and probably losing ground, and brain cells.

I actually started with iv meth because I’m a phlebotomist and have no problem injecting myself, and have easy access to clean syringes etc. from needle exchange. I couldn’t stand the taste of smoked meth (usually the pipes are burnt which makes it taste nasty). Booty bumps gave me the shits of death after an hour or so.

I don’t like the days of staying awKe, plus that great initial rush quickly goes away in the first day as the serotonin dopamine is depleted. I actually don’t consider myself addicted per se...just used for about 6 months and already bored with the effects. Can’t get hard, can’t cum, disrupts normal sleep/eat/drink pattern. Don’t really see the use of it, because I just get hyper focused on porn and become really chatty. I’ve gotten nearly psychotic from sleep deprivation (I start making weird noises and swore I made up my own African language - I KNOW!)

I’ve looked at meth use forums and most say that pot is much better and lasts longer. I have to agree, and have switched over. A couple of times I’ve missed the vein and you can’t even believe the welts and necrotic skin that develops at the site of injection.

One more thing here...I’ve really learned quite a lot about the underground meth world and have discovered there’s a willing segment of doctors and nurses which are willing to administer IV to people too scared to inject themselves. Going rate is around $25, especially for the neck, which to me is a SUPER no go area. It’s eye-opening and NOT pretty at all.

Winding it down--I thought phlebotomists never missed. Seriously, I knew a meth addict, only used the needle but was scared to use it on himself. When his Meth Momma used to throw him out, he'd come to me to shoot him up. A shot that should have given him a rush didn't affect him. Apparently, his brain had stopped producing dopamine.

Along with seratonin and norepenephrine, dopamine is a mood enhancer. It is the stuff that makes you happy. When it is not present in the brain, no mood can eventually turn into depression, unless you stay numb enough. Same with the ones that don't want to have a comedown. These people who binge are the ones who can do permanent damage to themselves.

Of those who begin using drugs from mid-teens to mid-twenties, 70% will find better choices in life and leave drug use by the time they are 30 on their own without therapy. The other 30% just keep going deeper into the rabbit hole. While Party 'n Play is common with gays, many keep it to that, doing it only on weekends and giving the body a break from the drug, which is critical to surviving it.

I met a guy last year I was so hot for. Black Irish coloring, beard, gorgeous hairy chest. I fell so hard so fast. He "worked a lot" so we spent two or three nights a week together, nothing more, but he was such a loving, funny guy that I got hooked. Occasionally, he was a little erratic in his behavior but we drank a lot so I figured it was that. Then someone who knew his ex clued me in. All the nights we were apart, he was high on meth and whoring around. I saw his Scruff profile, his Grindr profile and all the others. He was always looking for sex. When I confronted him, he told me he had been doing meth for 11 years. I was amazed he was able to be in such good shape, but he confessed he had used to have a lot more muscle mass, and showed me how some teeth were loose. He also said he'd always used condoms when he had sex with other people, so I wasn't at risk. I wasn't relieved. I guess because I had remained calm during this talk, he thought we were going to stay together. Wrong. We were over. In the past six months, he's gone from sales job to sales job. I've heard he looks even thinner now and lost one of his front teeth. I'm afraid that he seems to be sliding down a long, dark slope but he's had lots of chances to give the meth up and hasn't. That's the one relationship in his life that has endured.

this thread is so sad.

Makes me feel better about overdrinking on weekends. At least I only feel shitty on Sundays. Don’t know how these guys function with multi-day meth hangovers.

The bottom line is, meth use is pathetic.

Thanks Mr Mackie at r77

WW r1 !!

[quote] It is an intense, euphoric feeling but I don't see how anyone can do hard drugs daily or weekly.

It's called addiction. The body craves it, just like your body craves coffee each morning and lunch around noon. It's a disease, not a moral issue.

I wonder if the people who doing it continuously do it prevent the come down. Yes, it's horrible, even more so if you're been doing it for a long time.

My friend did meth every few weeks--not crazy. He didn't have any bad physical effects. He went to his dentist after about a year.

I don't know exactly what his dentist saw in his mouth but actually told him point-blank, "It looks like you're taking drugs like either crack or meth. You need to stop because it's really affecting your teeth.:

r8, whats the doc diagnosis. how many years does he have left?

R82 Yikes. My friend found out he has Congestive Heart Failure after going to urgent care. He was very weak and tired, had huge swelled up feet and ankles, his voice was so cracked you could barely understand him. Constantly had to clear his lungs. They asked him if he took drugs and he told the truth. They told him they couldn't help him. R83, He hasn't been back to the doctor since then. From what I've read, and the fact that he hasn't stopped using, he will be lucky to have 10 years left.

r80 You missed my point. I don't see how someone gets to the point of addiction. Like I said, the high is great but the after effects are horrible. I can't see how someone could do it enough to become addicted. When I experimented, I could not fathom doing it even semi-regularly.

I had to take pain meds for 3 years before and after surgery on my back. They were great but the constipation and other side effects made me quit them as soon as I didn't need them for pain. Even after taking them for so long, I tapered off of them within 2 months with no craving to take them again.

Everybody please chill the fuck out. Coffee in the morning and at lunch is not a life destroying addiction.

And for everyone who loses themselves to hard drug addictions, there are 3x the number of people who use drugs for the occasional thrill and its no biggie.

Why does meth make your teeth fall out?

The constant dick sucking....

r87 people often grind their teeth on stimulants - over a longer term this can cause significant damage. Dehydration and dry-mouth are also significant contributing factors to 'meth-mouth'.

What can you say about a thirty-two-year-old man who died? That he was beautiful and brilliant? That he loved Mozart and Bach, the Beatles, and me?

I spent 5 years writing Harm Reduction articles--if you're going to be using meth, then know how to take care of yourself-- to keep people alive until they wanted to quit. Also, recreational use is possible without becoming addicted. If you are interested in keeping that comedown tolerable, how to reduce the effects of dry mouth and other preventive tips, then Google The Meth Medicine Cabinet. I wrote over 900 entries for drugs-forum on how to understand the drug, scientific knowledge and reactions, without being judgmental.

When did you stop beating your wife?

R91, sounds great, but the website requires login and is begging for money from new members, promising "faster approval for donors." Not a good casual link.

Have never done it at all -- it is time to start? Maybe I will if the Repugnicans don't lose the House. At which point we're all doomed anyway.

Meth heads should drink more water.

lost my best friend to meth. Still makes me sad whenever I see someone on the street with "the look".

[quote]How many years did you do meth?

That's a loaded question, like "When was the last time you beat your dog?"

I only smokes reefer.

[R94] Sorry for the inconvenience on getting into drugs-forum. It's something new. I'm always logged in and didn't know about it.

I hate that smell that comes out of meth users' pores. It is vile, VILE, VILE! It makes me sick to my stomach. The aggressive, vacant eyes on top of that God awful smell...no thanks!

R97, meet r92. Although you did use the gay version of “wife”....