Megyn Kelly's collapse is COMPLETE! Her show is yanked!

The executive responsible for hiring her needs to go as well.

[quote]Two people familiar with the matter confirmed that to CNN Business and said Kelly's show will be ending. Negotiations about the end date and other details are still underway. But Kelly will not be hosting Thursday's program, and she is unlikely to return later, one of the people said. So "Megyn Kelly Today" may end very soon.

Didn’t somebody say they got booked for the Today Show but they weren’t told who they were going to be talking to until later? So them being with Megyn Kelly was a surprise?

Or am I just misremembering?

That was Deb Messing, R3.

I hope this is true. She needs to go. She's exposed herself as a repulsive person.

I could't believe she got a standing ovation for apologizing for being racist. That started another controversy and was very awkward as the camera panned the audience.

Good riddance to a horrible bitch.

Ta ta.

Does she still get paid?

R4 Thank you! I knew I wasn’t crazy.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they placed Messing in that slot just so she and Megyn could butt heads on something and go viral. She went on because of Will and Grace which is one of the staples of gay. Similarly I feel they did the same to Ricky Martin who went on to talk about Versace show... gay latino with children and gay syrian husband talking about how terrible homophobia led to Versace’s death... they definitely wanted Megyn to blow up at that.

I can't believe she actually got a consequence. She seemed almost self-destructive, trying to provoke at whatever cost.

Faux news will welcome her with opened hands ready to grab her by the pussy.

They go over everything at the show. Have pre show meetings etc. Did no one tell her it was offensive?

Apparently, she should know better, why does someone have to tell her.

Tra-La!

Too bad Megs didn't make it to the fun, wacky NBC morning show Halloween extravaganza! How I would have loved to hear her rendition of "Swanee".

She's pretty, but that's it. That's always been what's been so ridiculous about her career. She's just another pretty right-leaning blonde bimbo for Fox.

I'll be back.

Tamron Hall is smarter, more attractive, and a lot more entertaining. Love Tamron.

And nobody will miss her.

This of course will lead to even more Republicans voting next month

R20, Republicans already vote in every election. What are they going to do, register their pets to vote?

CAA has dropped her, and she was trying to move to UTA which announced that’s not happening. She’s toxic. No one will touch her. I guarantee NBC lawyers are looking for the outs in her contract. She’ll be officially let go by next week.

And can we talk about what an utter shitshow NBC has turned into since Andy Lack has been around? Why the fuck is he still there? If anyone should be fired it’s him. He’s the one who’s been protecting Kelly and Lauer, and the repulsive nightmare that is their rapey culture. WHY HASNT HE BEEN FIRED?

I SO wish that she’d show up for Halloween in blackface!!

She has no lips at all in R5.

That bitch was going LONG before the blackface shit. Most people already knew that.

I still have no idea what NBC was thinking making a big bet on her. She had several controversies on Fox and her career was in downfall prior to NBC nabbing her. She was never a natural fit for the network and it was always odd why they decided to hire her in the first place.

Her Sunday 60 Minutes-esque show was a total fail that lost to 60 Minutes reruns.

Her Today show has been a complete ratings failure.

When she isn’t in front of a desk with a glass tabletop showing her legs and a whiff of her pussy and mindlessly reading conservative talking points on Fox News primetime, she’s utterly useless.

Stupid Americans making fools of themselves over absolutely nothing.

Now I can do my job in PEACE. Ain't nobody got time for that cracker crazy bitch!

For all the kids at home, just so you know, Santa is Black, and from the Bronx.

She is such a clueless white privileged bitch. So as a child, blackface was not looked down upon?

What I remember most about her is that she wore a spaghetti strap top during Election 2016. Another show of her cluelessness and lack of taste.

"This of course will lead to even more Republicans voting next month"

Please explain how you think elections work. I'm sure if your explanation isn't exactly, it will still be some kind of spectacle.

But she said she was sorry, and threw in some tears too! Hee hee hee.........

Melissa Rivers was a member of the panel when Megyn made her initial black face remarks.

Is she on regularly?

They should put that cute Jacob Soboroff in Megyn’s timeslot.

They should retire the timeslot and just show a photo of Megyn sticking out of a pile of rhino poo. Some light music playing over.

This probably did her in....

I don’t think that people would be as outraged at another anchor making that comment. The problem is that the Fox knockoff Barbie has a long history of inappropriate comments.

Bring back Another World. Lady Eyes A Bugging would never make racist comments.

They let her go? Gee, that's too bad.

Is this a tiny bit misogynist? It seems like lots of men in high-profile jobs do a lot worse.

R40 Please find me a man who defends blackface and kept his job

Megyn is looking quite hard and washed out these days. The only thing she had going for her was looks and well now those are gone too. Maybe she can work with RT. Russian trolls can you help get maygyn an apartment in Siberia?

Don Lemon threw shade at her talking to Cuomo the other night.

What will become of her very gay sidekick Alex?

Well, I switched over during a Hot Bench commercial to check, and she was there talking about sleep apnea. May I assume it was a rerun? Her face was looking very hard.

R37 she pissed off a lot of people at NBC News, this is their revenge. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Part of me hates that this is also reprisal for her criticizing NBC's handling of #MeToo. It was valid criticism and the on thing she's ever done that I support. But I'll take any Megyn firing I can get

I doubt it was the talent who pulled the plug on the HoC interview. Has Robin Wright ever been seen in the same room as a black person?

She is so fucking stupid. She went to law school too. Does she hate it at NBC and did this on purpose so she could get the fuck out?

Do they have to pay her?

Love the video. Look at the woman on the far left in the aisle with WOC.....she looks to her right and realizes she shouldn't stand up along with the rest of the fools behind her.

I saw an interactive art presentation that depicted the deaths of Palestinian children. Many in the crowd applauded afterwards and the artist yelled at them for their thoughtless reaction.

I don't care for Megyn at all but I think this was a mistake. This could have been used as a great learning experience. Having an entire week of people on to explain what is offensive and what isn't. How to tell what is offensive. Not famous people as guests who can explain why they find certain things offensive. Instead we take another opportunity and just get rid of it like it didn't happen. And Megyn should have hosted it because people would have tuned in to see what she was doing.

[quote]This could have been used as a great learning experience. Having an entire week of people on to explain what is offensive and what isn't. How to tell what is offensive

Um R51, you do realize that the only point of network television is ratings which generate higher ad revenue, don't you? Your idea is both a dick wilter and a ratings killer. You fraus truly live in a rainbow decorated facebook universe don't you?

No, R51, she's made too many of these types of mistakes to let this one go. She barely apologized and she blindly did not include one person of color in the discussion. She's tone deaf to the country's current painful reality and needs to go before she does more damage. It's her lesson to learn, not the millions dealing with it on a daily basis or those of us who love and support them.

She will float back up just like a poop in a swimming pool.

Money can't buy you class.

if someone had taught her early on she wouldn't have made this mistake

I blame her mother.

and her father, R57....probably the most influential on a daughter's outlook on life...but I'm just speaking from experience.

She's one of those nitwits who went for higher education. The kind of person you would always be scratching your head over in class. She reminds me of those people who insist upon becoming an M.D. even though they should be punching no higher than a PA. So they attend one of those med schools in the Caribbean or Mexico. Square peg meet round hole.

I'm surprised people aren't bothered by her eyes being so far apart. Something is off there. Like an adult FAS case. There is something so wrong about any female in today's world aligning with the catholic church. Bend over so we can kick you up the ass as well 😅

"On October 12, 2016, Kelly stated in a segment on her show with Fox News commentator Julie Roginsky that she is a lifelong Catholic.[112]

[quote]This could have been used as a great learning experience.

It was a learning experience. We learned she was a bigot. Buh bye.

NBC will pay her almost $70M to release her contract.

[quote]Please find me a man who defends blackface and kept his job.

I’m sure Trump is a bigger racist than Kelly and he’s the president.*

*-allegedly

[quote]Does she hate it at NBC and did this on purpose so she could get the fuck out?

I wouldn't be surprised. Her ratings were shit. Debra Messing said they didn't tell her that it was Megyn that would be interviewing her, only that she was on the Today Show. Megyn is so fucking garbage and NBC so desperate to make her a thing I can believe NBC would hide that little tidbit when trying to get celebrities. So A listers and some B listers probably steered clear of the Today Show out of fear they'd get Megyn.

She was a poison to their network and they tried everything to make her a hit, but right wingers mostly don't like her anymore than the left does since she called out Trump. White conservative housewives offended by Trump's crassness and dudes who want to fuck her are probably her only audience.

Also her co workers HATED her.

Already a thread on this with links to reporting on the drama.

Megyn wants Ronan to attend her exit negotiations as a witness!

[quote] Megyn Kelly wants Ronan Farrow in the room when her legal team meets with NBC execs. “Megyn Kelly’s litigator Brian Friedman is meeting with NBC execs [Friday] and has requested that Ronan Farrow attend, so he can be a witness,” a source told Page Six.

[quote] After NBC’s reluctance to run Farrow’s Harvey Weinstein exposé (that ultimately ran in the New Yorker), Farrow, 30, and NBC News Chairman Andy Lack engaged in a public dispute. During their spat, Farrow claimed he took his story to the New Yorker because NBC tried to block the story from going to air and print.

[quote]In September on “Megyn Kelly Today,” the 47-year-old asked that NBC hire an outside firm to determine how it handled Farrow’s reporting on Weinstein. “There’s the question of the faith and confidence of the public in the reporting of NBC on matters involving itself,” she said. “For me, as a lawyer, it’s always better if you just send it outside. And then people can have more faith in it.”

[quote]Sources told Page Six Kelly is out at NBC following controversial comments she made about blackface this week.

More reporting that she's definitely out.

[quote]Megyn Kelly is out at NBC following controversial comments she made about blackface this week, a source told Page Six.

[quote] It took just 48 hours for Kelly to be cut from the network.

[quote]Before Page Six learned Kelly’s fate, an insider added that there were “lots of balls still in the air.” “She’s lawyered up, multi-year contract,” the insider added. “It’s complicated. Now is as good of time as any to get rid of her.”

Staffers are being reassigned within NBC as we speak.

[quote]Megyn Kelly’s 9 a.m. Today show hour has been canceled, multiple sources confirm to PEOPLE.

[quote]“They’re contacting the staff and reassigning everyone today. Everyone’s being told that they still have a home here, but it won’t be on Megyn’s show,” one source says. “They haven’t made an official announcement about the show, but everyone knows what it means when they’re being moved somewhere else. The show is clearly over.”

Poor gay Alex. What will happen to him? I so wanted to go be in Megyn’s audience and hopefully suck him off after the show.

Why was she wearing a bra on live tv?

You'd prefer those puppies flopping around?

Good riddance. During her stint on NBC, she was also sympathetic to anti-gay bakers (and other businesses that refused service to gay customers), but that didn't make the headlines.

Irish Traveller sort with probable FAS.

How about something over the bra? A jacket? Sweater?

Without using "blackface","cultural appropriation" and other terms that condemn without enlightening, can somebody please explain what exactly is wrong with a white person dressing up like a black star they admire? I'm apolitical and haven't been following the discourse in depth.

After her Jesus and Santa Claus is white comments on FOX, I thought she might have wised up. The green eyed monsters at NBC have had it out for her once it was out she was coming to NBC. Did she learn nothing from this statement "Megyn Kelly on Matt Lauer: 'I Know Too Much That Others Don't Know' ". Maybe she wanted to go. Going to work with two faced people constantly plotting your demise? Couldn't have been fun.

Too stupid to know when to throttle back the anti-PC. How did it escape her notice she wasn't on Fox anymore?

R74, why would those terms "enlighten"? Terms are names of concepts. You need to understand the concept, and for that there is google.

R74 Dressing as a black person is fine. Painting your face black, however is evocative of early 1900s minstrel shows which perpetuated racial stereotypes for decades. The term "Blackface" which is the term Kelly herself chose to use refers specifically to the minstrel shows.

Megyn is the NEW Roseanne Barr!

Look at this shit! Remember when Jane Fonda got annoyed when Megyn asked about her plastic surgery? Megyn got criticized about it, and the stupid cunt retaliated! She dragged the Vietnam war into it! What an unbelievable clod.

I think she knew what she was doing. She wants to go to a conservative market. They know the liberals hate her.

She did this to win back the conservative/ racist fans she lost when she went to NBC. She wants to go to a conservative market as I mentioned in R81

She knew she was going to be canned due to zero ratings so this was her shot to get back in good with deplorables.

I'm familiar with the concepts, R77. What I was trying to get at is why this particular activity is an example of one of these concepts. R78, thanks for the explanation. But was Kelly's use of the term "blackface" her only mistake? Or does painting your face black make you guilty by association with those minstrel shows, no matter the context?

R84 Generally guilt by association. There's no real need to paint your face black ever, so doing so is almost always seen as being deliberately provocative.

Black people dress up as white celebrities and characters all the time without painting our faces. It's never even occurred to me to do that when I was dressing up as a white character. So this isn't really a double standard.

Thanks, R84. Very useful information. I like to go all out with my costumes, so if I ever had the idea of dressing up as a black celebrity I'd be making that faux pas for sure.

[quote]Without using "blackface","cultural appropriation" and other terms that condemn without enlightening, can somebody please explain what exactly is wrong with a white person dressing up like a black star they admire? I'm apolitical and haven't been following the discourse in depth.

Do your own research, Svetlana.

No educated white woman with a scintilla of self-awareness as a newsperson would defend or even ASK the QUESTION about what is wrong with dressing up as Diana Ross and painting one's face black (or the infamous Lena Horne "dusky" make-up shade) because "who doesn't love Diana Ross?" It's disingenuous at best and racist at worst. It is a non-question, not even appropriate for a "devil's advocate" type of discussion. Did she just suddenly get Tourette's or something? WTF lady? You are toast at NBC and you SHOULD be. What a ROSANNE moment.

She will walk with that full $69 million.

Lack and Oppenheim have to go. Their right-wing agenda prevents them from having sound programming sensibilities, in addition to costing the network millions.

All 3 should just go to Fox News and suck a few dicks in the hopes of getting a job.

NBC probably wanted to get rid of her the last couple of months, and this controversy gives them the perfect opportunity to dump her.

With a $69 million dollar payout, don't feel sorry for her. That is a ton of dough for her to reinvent herself

Bye, Bye Megan Kunty!

Lol, she’s not getting a payout. NBC has her over the barrel. She’ll be lucky to see a dime. She violated so many contractual issues it’s not even funny. Not happening. She’ll never be seen on Today again.

LACK HAS TO GO.

I meant, she’ll never be seen on NBC again. Tamron Hall is laughing her ass off somewhere.

Megyn is probably aiming to run for president in 2028 or something. Wanna laugh at my guess? Look at the current president. Another NBC television personality.

I wonder if they will even consider bringing Tamron back?

R95 Tamron has her own show coming up next yr w abc stations

70 MILLION BUCKS for this cunt's nasty cunty remarks. Rome is burning!

[quote] Lol, she’s not getting a payout. NBC has her over the barrel. She’ll be lucky to see a dime. She violated so many contractual issues it’s not even funny

I hope not. There has to be something in the small writing where she violated something, i.e. racist remarks or did an act that hurt the company. I bet NBC's lawyers are going through the contract with a fine-tooth comb.

R98 Comcast had a cash flow of 9 billion/yr. when Megyn signed on. They have the money to deal w her. It's a matter of pr. Megyn is a knockout in the looks and she is good with her debate skills. Megyn gets 69 million. Not a big deal.

Bring back Matt! Give him the 9:00 hour.

lest we forget

SHE WAS A FOX BITCH IN THE BEGINNING

R100, Shut your mouth! Fuck Matt Lauer!!!

There are too many damn hated Megans on DL for me to keep track of! Megyn Kelly, Meghan Markle, Megan McCain! I'm sure I'm missing another!

Megan from Mad Men

People like this never really suffer consequences. Didn’t she get a big pot of money from Fox for the whole sexual harassment thing before she exited to NBC? Plus, I’m sure there’s some sort of buy out clause in her $50+million contract with NBC, which I’m sure she/her lawyers will fight tooth and nail to get every last red cent from they can.

She’ll be fine and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she winds up back at Fox when all is said and done.

The also need to fire whoever at NBC hired this hussy in the first place. Like everyone with eyes could see this was a disaster before it started. This ice cold bitch belongs in the trenches of FAUX News, which they thought she would flourish in daytime is beyond me.

Never forget!

Didn't she go to a third-rate law school?

I know she went to University of Albany for undergrad because she didn't get into Syracuse.

MegYn (a la AnnE) is one year through a three-year, $69 million contract. So she has two years and $45 million to go. She'll get $45 million to leave, not $69M.

Taxes will take 50%, her lawyer will take a cut, her career is basically over ... if she lives into her 80s, bitch will be On Assistance examining dented cans in Gristedes.

And I will spit in her cunt face.

She will be hired by Alex Jones, Breitbart or some right wing organization. Or even the POS in the WH.

She's been making really good $$$$ now for at least the last 12 to 15 years. She was paid really well at fox news before her NBC contract and now with this potential huge windfall pay out NBC may have to pay her. After taxes and everything goes into the bank. I'm sure that'll put her personal net worth way above $100 million dollars if it isn't already north of that yet. Megyn is a very wealthy person, she won't have anything to worry about monetary anyway.

That being said, she needs to stay off television indefinitely, she's way to controversial and provocative. But just like a lot of people keep saying. She just might end up back at fox news, where she belongs. She should have never left in the first place. The fox news stench follows all who worked there for life.

Good riddance!

What R98 said is probably more accurate than not, although that depends entirely on what's in her contract with NBC (I assume there would have been extensive negotiations for someone like Kelly). I've actually had the displeasure of reviewing these types of entertainment contracts (dozens of pages long and incredibly confusing/boring) and there usually are clauses that release the employer from paying out on contracts when the employee's behavior causes damage to the company's public image. Generally, they're known as "morality clauses" and they hinge on damage to the public image of the employer via an employee's boneheaded actions or words. If an employee does something that patently makes the parent company look bad, it can trigger such a release. However, whether NBC could effectively argue a violation of such a clause is another matter.

Excuse me, what R92 said.

[quote] That being said, she needs to stay off television indefinitely, she's way to controversial and provocative.

This is the most hilarious thing I've read today.

[quote] Generally, they're known as "morality clauses" and they hinge on damage to the public image of the employer via an employee's boneheaded actions or words. If an employee does something that patently makes the parent company look bad, it can trigger such a release. However, whether NBC could effectively argue a violation of such a clause is another matter.

They can't because they portrayed actors in blackface on numerous occasions as recently as a couple years ago. If that is their criteria, they have no leg to stand on. Plus, you have accusations of a cover up with Weinstein. If NBC decides to fight her, they will lose.

Queen Megyan is getting a 70M buy out. She just keeps on winning.

R115 On its face, I don't really see how NBC showing actors in blackface is exactly relevant to a contract issue with an employee (did NBC really do that?). What would be at issue is her comments/behavior and their effect on NBC. To the extent Kelly could claim that because NBC showed such things it inherently OKed her to make her remarks, then maybe. But I still question the extent to which that gives Kelly a wild card legally. Her statements and their effect are really at issue, not anything done by NBC. If I'm missing your point, I apologize. I can't comment on the NBC/Weinstein thing, I have no knowledge on the topic. Ultimately, I'm not making an assertion on Kelly's success on any claim against NBC (my last sentence in my previous post). I am simply stating that there are likely clauses within the document that likely pertain to this type of dismissal and release from any contractual obligations, which NBC would/should use to their advantage. Believe me, NBC wont just throw a few 10s of mil at her if they don't have to. But again, any success for either party is dependent on the contractual language, which none of us (likely) know.

Exactly, why are people saying they're going to throw $70 million her way? Not even CAA and UTA wanted to touch her so she had to hire her own Entertainment lawyer. NBC has high-powered lawyers too. They can argue that they had to let her go because she damaged their brand.. Also, what was the staff meeting about? They could have dug some dirt from the staff about her behavior that they could use in their case.

[quote]Is this a tiny bit misogynist? It seems like lots of men in high-profile jobs do a lot worse.

Uh...have you been in a coma for the last year and a half? At one point, a man was losing his job every other week for shit that happened 20 years ago.

Why are they paying her out? FIRE HER and sue her for breech of contract. Who the hell is running NBC? Fire them now.

She's a ratings disaster...that should be NBC's argument here. That said, she does NOT have the personality for morning TV and whoever hired her for that purpose is clueless and equally responsible for the mess. Know your audience - it is NOT hard.

I’m probably going to get some shit for this BUT...if anybody wants to step up...be my guest.

As a Black person, I find that we can be the most overly sensitive group of people on the planet. Was this malicious? No. Was it calculated and a misfire? ABSOLUTELY. However, discussions like this would probably increase her viewership. It’s also a teachable moment to the pill-popping housewives that watch her. That's what I think when this shit happens. I saw it. It seemed like an organic question, in that, there was nothing nefarious behind it, and she was obviously--and clumsily--trying to fuel the conversation.

This doesn't mean that I don't think the bitch is ignorant. OF COURSE, she KNOWS that blackface is offensive. She just doesn't see "What the big deal is"...as they often do.

What I don’t like is this kneejerk reaction to terminate people. Obviously, context should be considered. In this situation, she doesn’t deserve to lose her job. But, again, they were working on her exit 6 months after the show debuted and this is the perfect opportunity for NBC to get rid of her and make themselve look socially aware.

[quote]But was Kelly's use of the term "blackface" her only mistake? Or does painting your face black make you guilty by association with those minstrel shows, no matter the context?

Her FALSE lack of understanding was her “Mistake.” Absolutely, G.B.A. There is no context in which it’s okay to WEAR blackface.

I would like to be clear that this post is MY OPINION. I didn’t make it so that some troll could piggyback.

R115 is nonsensical word salad. She is not getting a buyout, and she could very well be sued for damage to company image. She will take nothing to walk away quietly. I work in entertainment and have had contracts like these. You don’t fuck with them. The only ones saying she’ll be getting a buyout are Trumpkins. It’s not happening.

R113 is right.

Weinstein has nothing to do with KKKunt Megyn. Racism and metoo are two entirely different things so please don’t try to make them equivalent. Also, NBC has NOT had multiple actors in blackface. Shut up you Trumpkins troll. Blocked.

I never saw the Jane Fonda thing before... Kelly is incredibly petty.

[quote]Megyn is a knockout in the looks and she is good with her debate skills.

She looks hard as hell nowadays and her debating skills are wildly overrated. She only seemed impressive on Fox back before she hit the wall in the looks department, and when she had idiots for her audience.

Why does her hair look scraggly and like shit lately? Is she too impressed to show up for hair and makeup before her show?

* impressed should have been depressed - I need more coffee (or covfefe)

Her hair is thinning and brittle from age and decades of bleaching. It was manageable when short while on Fox, but she grew it out for NBC and now has borderline hag hair.

R113 - I understand what you mean about a morality clause in contracts such as these (tho not in entertainment biz, I’ve had similar clauses in my own employment contracts) but aren’t these clauses meant to apply to an employee’s off the clock behavior? For example, if she did/said it a twitter rant or FB post, then the morality clause could apply. But, how can saying it in a discussion on a “news program” - especially when you (NBC) hired her knowing her background and to stir things up a bit, how can they invoke the morality clause now?

As for “damaging the brand”, I think it could be successfully argued the sexual harassment scandals and coverups were more damaging and they got contract payouts. I think NBC realized their mistake months ago, and this just gave them the excuse to begin exiting her out of the network. I don’t she’ll get anywhere near the $70 million some reports say, but I think she’ll still walk away with somewhere in the neighborhood of a year, a year and a half’s salary. I think NBC just wants her and this story to go away.

Now we’ll wait and see just how long it takes until the announcement that she’s going back to Fox is made.

I think she’ll drink herself to death

Way down on the levee

in old Alabammy

There's daddy and mammy,

there's Efraim and Sammy!

Cunt. I’ve never looked more forward to someone’s demise as I do hers. That Aryan ubercunt Laura Ingraham should be next.

R117, NBC's frequent use of blackface on their shows doesn't have to play out in a court of law. I seriously doubt NBC wants images like at the link playing out in the media. It won't play well in the court of public opinion. And, combine their fascination with blackface with how the Today Show had no issue with "womanface" on their Halloween episodes and what Megyn Kelly did will look mild in comparison.

They picked the wrong issue to use to terminate her. They should just suck it up and buy her out because the network (and Tina Fey, and Jane Krakowski, and Lorne Michaels and the list goes on) look a lot worse.

Gayle's two cents........

R124, NBC most certainly has had many instances of actors and actresses in blackface. And the big irony is the Diana Ross costume that sparked the controversy appeared on Real Housewives which is part of the NBC Comcast owned stations.

While I do feel that in many cases political correctness has gotten out of control, I appreciate that many people realize how horrifying Blackface is to Black people (and some non Blacks as well apparently).

r122 I hear what you are saying HOWEVER things are still extremely difficult for Black people in America. In case you hadn't noticed the President has been actively fueling racism since he started campaigning for the office. People all over the world are watching. I'm not in favor of people thinking it's all right to make those kinds of jokes at our expense YET. I may not live long enough to see the negative stereotypes about our community, that have been drummed into everyone's psyche through White media and recorded history, fade into faint memory. That is if it happens at all and that's if our community survives at all.

Are we TOO sensitive? No. Not as long a police are allowed to shoot us down in the streets with little to no repercussions. If you are comfortable with that fact, then feel free to think we are too sensitive.

I'm torn because on the one hand I'm SO DAMN GLAD she's stumbled but on the other hand it is slightly ghastly how you have to walk on eggshells over every little thing today.

That said, it mostly affects people who make a zillion dollars a year, so those bitches SHOULD watch what they say!

She didn't abuse anyone, like Matt Lauer, and she is a PR liability if she decides to go nuclear in the press, so you can bet she will get SOME sort of buyout. Not her full contract, but something. I also review contracts and know about morality clauses and this is a big steaming bowl of thin soup in that capacity. She'll more than likely get the remainder of this year and a bit more.

She also was made $15 million a year at Fox in her last few years there. So the bitch won't be on food stamps.

But you can bet her mainstream career is fucking toast. Couldn't happen to a better person. Later!!!!!

She ABSOLUTELY deserves to lose her job R122, and the fact that you don’t see that means you’re part of the problem. Working in entertainment for massive fees is a PRIVILEGE, not some god given right to right wing blonde Nazi cunts. But of course, I’ve already had you blocked because you’re a racist Trumpkin.

I would have some sympathy for her if this was her first racial controversy. But she also spent weeks trying to convince people the New Black Panther party was a threat to public safety and had that Santa moment. This is who she is, a racist. She will have controversies like this no matter where she goes

It's been reported that she's looking for $50 million, r140. She'll get close to it too cause it's NBC with the PR liability.

Call it a PR liability all you want. Condemnation against Kelly has been universal. Deplorables keep believing people give a damn what you think.

Why does Andy Lack still have a job. He was Matt Lauer's BFF too.

Here r122

Sure, r144, when SNL chose to put Fred Armisten in blackface over to portray Obama and Prince over the black actors who were already on the show and NBC said nothing then NBC created its own PR liability.

r147 - At least Armisen is multi-racial and it shows when he portrays non-white characters as flesh and blood people with nuances, unlike Tracy Ullman’s buffoonish black TSA agent, etc. I agree that “do not even attempt” is the best policy for white actors, though, because they tend to go directly the 2-dimensional cartoon route when portraying POC.

Multi-racial as in German and Japanese., r148. Is Jimmy Fallon multi racial? He dressed up as Chris Rock. Or how about Darrell Hammond when he portrayed Jesse Jackson?

Billy Crystal used to do it too. I think the blackface that is offensive is the minstrel, derogatory, mockery and pandering to racist stereotypes. I think for someone of any race to portray a character is not necessarily offensive unless the context is offensive and designed to humiliate. I loved Eddie Murphy running around in white face for a skit where he was making a point about racism. Some actors hand comedians have a genius when it comes to impersonations. I don't necessarily think that impersonating someone of another race needs to automatically be construed as offensive. (I'm not white.)

[quote] That said, it mostly affects people who make a zillion dollars a year, so those bitches SHOULD watch what they say!

Wrong! It affects people in all walks of life. This is why I consciously don't get involved or get too close to people at work.

R134 There's also Jon Hamm, the examples from R149, and god knows how many more going back years. Those acting so outraged now said absolutely nothing. If it's wrong in all instances, which we keep hearing again and again, those examples should have been called out. Personally, this issue was not even on my radar but I still condemned her remarks as being ignorant, but said that it was motivated by hate.

[quote] As for “damaging the brand”, I think it could be successfully argued the sexual harassment scandals and coverups were more damaging and they got contract payouts.

Another great point. The level of hate focused on Kelly borders on irrational. It's fine if you don't like her interviewing style, think she's dumb, or whatever, but wishing her eternal suffering is just strange.

but said that it wasn't motivated by hate.

Ironically, Armisen did a better impersonation than Pharaoh of Obama. Jay Pharaoh’s impersonation sucked, and so did the makeup they used to make him lighter.

I think Arminsen’s Prince is hilariously on point, he even asked Prince if it was cool for him to do it (answer was YES.)

Didn't she recall the aftermath of Ted Danson? Did Whoopie address this issue regarding Megyn? She defended Ted.

Megyn didn’t plow Whoopi in the hoo-ha every night like Ted did, r155.

Times are changing, guys. You can’t compare something someone did years ago to the current slimate and situation.

Do I think it’s terrible for a white woman to dress up as Diana Ross? No, but I can understand that I’m white and I am not the one who decides if it’s offensive or not. Megyn Kelly should be have enough sensitivity when it comes to racial topics, especially when she’s getting paid millions of $ to talk for a living. It’s not Fox News, you moronic bimbo!

There’s a long history of racial discrimination in our country and the least I can do is respect the fact that there are things that certain groups find some things offensive.

There are millions of non offensive Halloween constimes, why do I need yo pick one that’s going to offend someone else?

Slimate = climate! Seriously...

R157 That's fine if that's your opinion. I also thought her statement was stupid. I still think her apology was sufficient and NBC is exposing itself to massive hypocrisy. I also think the people at NBC attacking her probably have ulterior motives. If it were anyone else, they'd demand an apology and then move on.

R157, Kelly's comment was about the past so the comparison to years ago is completely fair. And the Today Show dressing men as women for Halloween is very recent as was the Real Housewives/Diana Ross costume that she defended and which, ironically, aired on a NBC owned station.

R107's pic reminds us that Megyn has had at least 2lbs hacked off her nose since the late 1980s.

[quote]Blackface is a form of theatrical make-up used predominantly by non-black performers to represent a caricature of a black person. The practice gained popularity during the 19th century and contributed to the spread of racial stereotypes such as the "happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation" or the "dandified coon". In 1848, blackface minstrel shows were an American national art of the time, translating formal art such as opera into popular terms for a general audience. Early in the 20th century, blackface branched off from the minstrel show and became a form in its own right.

It's interesting that during all the debate about things like this no one ever tries to educate on the history of the topic and what it actually is, opposed to what we think is it.

R130 I am not arguing either way. I really can't because, again, I don't know what's in her contract. Any issues litigated would hinge on the contract language and whether her words met the standards laid out in the contract. So I can't really answer your question. And no, these morality clauses (that I've seen) encompass both on- and off-the-clock behavior. If anything, her saying it on the air is all the more reason for NBC to induce such a clause, because the public nature of the comments can be assumed. As for damaging the brand, again, I don't know what damages NBC would have sustained due to her comments. Again, the resolution depends entirely on the contract language, which I don't know. As for the sexual harassment/metoo stuff, I doubt the relevancy of any of that in a single employee contract dispute.

R134 Again, my belief (which could wrong mind you) is that NBC allowing blackface on its shows is not really relevant to a contract dispute with an employee. You're assertions also assume that Kelly's comments and the depictions of blackface on those shows have the same meaning and intention, which is highly debatable (and another full thread of discussion on its own). Generally, the actions (good or bad) of an employer generally don't correlate to a get-out-of-jail-free card for an employee who acts similarly. Just because executives are hiring prostitutes doesn't make it OK that employees are doing it too. What NBC has or hasn't done in the past isn't at issue for such a dispute (although it certainly may be relevant to other issues). From what I can tell, you are reading quite a bit into my comments. I actually agree with you that this particular instance, by itself, was odd as the terminal offense. Based on what I've seen (I will have to watch it again), all she was doing was suggesting a question of whether a white person dressing up as a black celebrity with no intention of a negative portrayal (and, of course, darkening their skin with pigment to look further look like that celebrity) is the equivalent of the degrading form of blackface done decades ago, or something different. Honestly, I think it's a very interesting and challenging social question. She's said a lot of stupid things in the past from what I gather (the "Santa is white" thing was especially bad), but this wasn't in that category, in my humble opinion. But again, any arguments either side has are going to be centralized around what's in her contract, which I certainly don't know. If you do have such information, please do feel free to use it in our discussion. Quite frankly, if I had to hazard a guess, my guess is that she has the better argument. But it's not because NBC has shown actors in blackface or NBC made payouts to higher-up harassers; I don't believe her comments can be construed as breaching a morality clause that would subsequently damage NBC's image.

TMZ reported yesterday that her contract is actually $75 million dollars for 3 years. And not the initial reported $69 million that keeps being reported. So she was making $25 million a year from NBC.

Unfucking believable. Andy Lack needs to go.

R163 what part of NBC depicting blackface as a form of entertainment frequently and the court of public opinion do you not understand? You keep mentioning contract disputes. Who gives a shit. These things play out on TMZ and in the media.

And, for what it's worth, I showed your posts to my neighbor who does work for NBC's news division and knows all about their stand on morality and the OATH EVERYBODY there needs to sign and she said your full of shit.

Again, I'm not talking about her contract but if she wants to turn this into a PR nightmare for NBC she certainly can and it sounds like she is heading down that road by wanting Farrow tgere.

Your s/b you're

Did Ronan Farrow agree to be there?

Is she's going to claim some kind of sexual harassment? She looks like someone who would cause a nightmare if she doesn't get her way.

That's exactly why even Fox news just rejected megyn publicly. LOL. Not even they want her ass back. She's done in mainstream media.

Fuck Megyn.

Breitbart or Stormfront is probably next for her. She could make a nice sidekick for Alex Jones if Breitbart and Stormfront don't work out for her.

R165 I'm attempting a legal discussion based on long-standing and accepted legal doctrines with people who are knowledgeable on these things. You're not one of those people from what I can tell. I appreciate your attempts at discussion but we are not arguing the same topic. Thus, you really shouldn't be engaging me (and nor I you), unless you're just trying to troll me. If that's the case, kudos to you.

Assuming we are arguing the same topic, you're not really making clear on what exactly it is you disagree with me. I am talking about her contract, you say you're not. You say you don't care about it, I do. So what exactly is your point? She's gonna get away from NBC with 10s of millions of dollars? She very well might. If that's your point, you win I guess. But we are obviously looking at this matter from two completely different views that are not going to correlate. I wont discuss NBC's use of blackface any longer as I've expressed myself completely in the above comments. If you can't glean my meaning from the comments above, then it's a concept beyond your grasp and therefore not fit for a discussion between us. As for this "Court of Public Opinion", I am aware of it and understand it. It is a social construct that's not a real court and has no legitimate authority (although it can certainly induce certain actions). Therefore I don't (and no one else well legally-minded) accept it as an authority on any legal matter and it is dumb. The right to contract and to enforce rights granted by contract are given by the United States Constitution and are legally enforceable by an actual government-recognized authority (e.g. a court). You may not give a hoot about her contract, you probably shouldn't as most people don't. But that instrument and that body of law are paramount in determining how anything goes down legally regarding her conduct. Even assuming that Kelly and NBC care about this "court of public opinion" (they likely don't), there are plenty of people in this "court" who would "vote" on both sides of the matter. And, yes, these matters do "play out on TMZ and in the media" for the general public (I can't believe I just typed "TMZ"). But again, no actual authority there to determine an outcome on any legal matter.

You also don't understand the actual meaning of "morality clause" in a contract context. NBC's actual "morals" have nothing to do with it. "Morality clause" is a lay term used to describe sections of enforceable agreements that require an employee to act and appear a certain way publicly. The term "morality" is only used symbolically. The use of the term "morality" to describe them simply comes from the fact that they usually prohibit traditionally bad actions and behaviors in western culture. But it can be any behavior or action that counters a company's image (e.g. it technically could prohibit an employee from acting too righteous if the company's image is one of debauchery or bad-ass-ery). Re: this neighbor of yours, I'm curious as to what it is she disagreed. If she's an attorney and thinks I am incorrect, I'd actually be very interested in her thoughts. But if she isn't, her thoughts wont be worth much, if anything, to me. Re: this supposed morality oath she signed, that doesn't sound like a real thing and even if it were it's not relevant to a morality clause in a contract.

Also, Kelly's decision to turn this into a "PR nightmare" still has no relevance to the legalities of the contract.

Well at least she didn’t call Al a jigaboo.

[quote]I hear what you are saying HOWEVER things are still extremely difficult for Black people in America.

Yeah...I’m aware. I guess you missed the part where I said: “As a Black person..” I added that so people who respond could skip the history lesson and get to the point.

[quote]I'm not in favor of people thinking it's all right to make those kinds of jokes at our expense YET.

But it wasn’t a joke at anyone’s expense R138 and this has NOTHING to do with what Trump has been doing since he got into office. See...that’s the thing. If you watched the clip, it’s pretty obvious that it wasn’t a joke. It was NOT said with the purpose of making people laugh or insulting Black folk. I don’t even understand how that assumption could be made.

[quote]Are we TOO sensitive? No. Not as long a police are allowed to shoot us down in the streets with little to no repercussions. If you are comfortable with that fact, then feel free to think we are too sensitive.

Whuh? How did you jump from a silly, entitled twat making a dumb, off the cuff statement about blackface...to police shootings? Why in the UNIVERSE would you think that I would be comfortable with Black folks being gunned down in the streets? I mean...your logic--or lack thereof--is STUNNING. What does one have to do with the other? BTW, you’re proving my point. If you can’t respond to this post without taking jabs at me….you’re too sensitive. Look, I think you’re giving me a kneejerk reaction and not really reading my post. I’m open to discussion tho. Always am.

[quote]She ABSOLUTELY deserves to lose her job [R122], and the fact that you don’t see that means you’re part of the problem. Working in entertainment for massive fees is a PRIVILEGE, not some god given right to right wing blonde Nazi cunts. But of course, I’ve already had you blocked because you’re a racist Trumpkin.

Now this motherfucker @ R141 can find the nearest bridge and do a backflip. You may have already had me on block BUT it’s not because I’m a “racist Trumpkin” you stupid FUCK.

But you are, Blanche, you are!

I can't stand her an d I'm glad she's gone. She will probably start her own podcast or get picked up by some internet or streaming service for "a series of specials." Isn't she a lawyer? Megyn will be fine. Her Republican Patrons will see to it.

Bye bitch!

I never liked her, and I am not surprised NBC is going to pay her off to leave early.

I post only because my father, who is 78, asked me last night when I was at his house and the Kelly controversy was on some channel, "Do you remember seeing that newspaper clipping in [my grandmother's] scrapbook of me and my scout troop onstage for a show, all of us in blackface?"

I actually did remember it, and I think we joked about it as kind of offensive after grandma died 25 years ago and we were going through her things. But now, both dad and I understand how wrong that was even in its time. It was a cute picture of a talent show to my grandmother, and to the town newspaper, but looking back, wtf. Thankfully we all have progressed.

And Ms Kelly is not 78 years old; she should know better.

We are dressing as Al Roker and Craig Melvin for our annual Halloween show this year.

Racism is inherent for some people. And megyn keeps proving that along with all of her buddies over at Fox news and the GOP.

It just is what it is.

R170 is smart and actually knows what he’s talking about. R165 otoh is an idiot who is a Trump voter. Ignore the troll R170.

Wolf Blitzer is being a bit of an asshole with the his interview with the head of the Jewish Federation in Pittsburgh, pressing her on if she knows who died. She sensibly said the names haven't been released and he's pressing.

Wolf, some scoops don't matter, you old fucktard.

sorry wrong thread.

So who hosted Today's 9 AM hour this morning?

R182 Same anchors as the first two hours. Then Jenna Bush took over after 20 min.

Do you think Kelly's team is going to prevail in getting what they want from NBC? I believe they will because social media keeps pointing out NBC's inconsistent stance on blackface/whiteface:

Mediaite: Lester Holt Dressed up as a Woman in ‘Whiteface,’ Fallon In Blackface, What Exactly is NBC’s Policy?

Lester Holt dressed up as Susan Boyle. Hoda Kotb dressed up as Blake Shelton. Jimmy Fallon dressed up as Chris Rock. Luann de Lesseps dressed as Diana Ross. All are employees of NBC Universal-affiliated shows. None were ever reprimanded for what they did.

From the article:

"there is reason to question the standard upon which a network like NBC decides whether a white person dressing as a black person, to include make-up, is deemed “blackface” or is given a pass."

Al Roker weighs in:

THR: Al Roker Condemns Whiteface Amid Megyn Kelly Controversy

The longtime 'Today' host denounced Marlon and Shawn Wayans' 2006 film 'White Chicks' and also addressed Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel's histories wearing blackface...

Longtime Today anchor Al Roker has denounced whiteface amid the recent conversations stemming from Megyn Kelly's blackface comments, and singled out Marlon and Shawn Wayans' 2006 film White Chicks in which the two actors appear in whiteface as two undercover FBI agents posing as Caucasian women.

"Dude, didn’t see that movie. But let me jump in the DeLorean with Doc Brown and travel to 2004 to denounce it," Roker said in a tweet...

Many have called her comments racist, while others have noted hypocrisy in her show's cancellation while other stars — such as Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon and Ted Danson — have worn blackface in the past and were not fired...

Roker himself responded Monday to such comparisons on Twitter, writing, "Ted Danson. 1993. Wrote a letter to the Friars Club. Jimmy Kimmel 2000. Never saw it til last week. Ditto, Jimmy Fallon and Sarah Silverman. Of course, it makes me cringe. Horrible. And do I think wish they never did it? You bet. But I don’t have a time machine."

Al is gonna dress up as Megyn?

[quote] "Dude, didn’t see that movie. But let me jump in the DeLorean with Doc Brown and travel to 2004 to denounce it," Roker said in a tweet...

Many people were aware of it and didn't care and those who did bring it up were mocked for making a false comparison.

[quote] Never saw it til last week. Ditto, Jimmy Fallon and Sarah Silverman. Of course, it makes me cringe. Horrible. And do I think wish they never did it? You bet. But I don’t have a time machine."

Yet he's not going to denounce it even though they are all still working in high positions. Roker should just own up to the fact that there is no good explanation, and even more, what they did was much worse. In the case of Kimmel, he actually portrayed the NBA star as being mentally delayed.

Don Lemon excoriating Kelly for her being too young to be this ignorant is especially puzzling as so many high profile cases of blackface occurred just within the last 10 years and met with no controversy.

She was an asshole for bringing up the topic of Blackface on live television. She loves to be a smartass with her guests which is why she got fired. Big deal, some punishment. She'll get paid insane amounts of money to not return to work.

Ther person who wanted to hire her for NBC should be fired as well. Anyone could tell you that she wasn’t going to make it in mainstream TV. She has no one to blame, but herself.

Don Lemon seems to make a lot of decisions about how big his fit will be based on how much he likes you.

R190 Andy Lack is the person you’re referring to. He’s the Chairman of NBC News and MSNBC. He hired Megyn and now he’s claiming to be some type of victim. This guy is unbelievable. He’s also responsible for the Brian Williams lying scandal, the Matt Laurer #MeToo scandal, the Joy Reid Homophobia scandal, Ann Curry being fired from the Today Show and Tamron Hall leaving the Today Show. Andy Lack has had one fuck up after another yet he’s still employed? See link below regarding his spin on how he’s somehow now the victim. Who is Andy Lack’s boss and why after all of these missteps and costing the network millions of dollars in contract buyouts does he still have a job?

I’m just glad she’s gone.I don’t care if they have to pay her to go. It’s not my money.

Zucker is his boss R192, and he shouldn’t be there either.

Jeff Zucker hasn't been at NBC since 2010. He's been president of CNN Worldwide since '13. He's been attacked by name by Trump as recently as Friday. Do keep up.

I meant That dumb fag Greenblatt you fucking twat. BLOCKED.

R196 here. I'm blocking everyone on this thread.

Blocked, blocked and BLOCKED

BLOCKED!

Greenblattt's pretty much gone, too, Is it that you can't distinguish one Jewish guy from another, R196? How hard is it for you to do a modicum of research before you evacuate your bowels all over DL?

Now she's bitching at Sarah Silverman on twitter because Silverman made a foul mouthed remark at trumps expense. Kelly is such a pathetic case , does she think if she insults the right targets that fox news will take her back?

Meghan Kelly pooped in her own lunchbox. Lawyer to anchor to a faux-Ellen dancing like a fool. She won’t work again, unless Dancin with the Stars gets even more desperate. The anxious attempt to identify with #MeToo after years of acquiescence with the status quo-who’d hire her? She’s a liability