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Can we do a thread about gay actors from Classic Hollywood? - Part 2
|by Anonymous||reply 484||Yesterday at 12:21 PM|
Link to the old thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||10/23/2018|
Any John Gielgud stories? He was busted for cottaging, so I'm sure he had some fun times!
|by Anonymous||reply 2||10/23/2018|
How about Gavin Gordon?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||10/24/2018|
What about Errol Flynn? Any truth to the rumors of bisexuality, or was that bunkum invented by a biographer who wanted to sell scandal?
Because yeah, I can see Flynn fucking anything with a hole in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||10/24/2018|
Well, he CLEARLY liked women.....but I wouldn't be shocked if he dabbled in the homosex, many actors do.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||10/24/2018|
From the A-list, a site which had pretty credible gossip
[quote] Flynn, Errol. "The most despicable human being yet born." "My son had not only been a bad little boy, he had been a nasty little boy." Jerk and Nazi sympathizer--also a spy for the Axis, if rumors are to be believed. A closeted FOD. Anti-Semite. Linked with Truman Capote, Olivia de Havilland, Doris Duke, Howard Hughes, Barbara Hutton, Hedy Lamarr, David Niven, Eva Peron, Tyrone Power, Lana Turner, Gloria Vanderbilt, Lupe Velez, and Shelley Winters
FOD stands for friend of Dorothy, for legal reasons they used such terms.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||10/24/2018|
This is DL. Everybody knows what an FOD is. Or used to.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||10/25/2018|
Friend of Dorothy? We were just acquaintances. Never friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||10/25/2018|
It used to be said in Hollywood that Errol Flynn would screw anything with a pulse - and sometimes even *that* wasn't a requirement.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||10/25/2018|
Dorothy who? I don't know what that reference means :(
|by Anonymous||reply 10||10/25/2018|
R6, "The A-List" was a compendium of bullshit largely compiled from blind item guesses.
That doesn't mean that Flynn wasn't an awful human being, and yeah, I bet he'd fuck anything with a pulse and didn't always care about the pulse.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||10/25/2018|
Sir John Gielgud wrote gay pron!
|by Anonymous||reply 12||10/25/2018|
Tyrone Power's longtime bf J. Watson Webb allegedly kept all of Ty' s personal papers, including love letters between the two, and had them sealed in a bank vault by his estate after he died in 2000.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||10/25/2018|
Did George Maharis ever officially come out of the closet? I know he was busted for cruising an LA park back in the '70s I think
|by Anonymous||reply 14||10/26/2018|
More info on Gene Raymond. I'm not convinced he was 100% straight
|by Anonymous||reply 15||10/26/2018|
r15, it sounds like all that "gossip" comes from the "MacEddy" fantards, who want to believe that Raymond's marriage was a sham
|by Anonymous||reply 16||10/27/2018|
How about Richard Cromwell, who was Angela Lansbury's first husband (!) and was also a regular at George Cukor's parties
|by Anonymous||reply 17||10/28/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 18||10/28/2018|
Cromwell and Lansbury were both very young when they married and divorced after a year. But they remained close friends until he died.
Maharis was busted twice for tearoom sex. The first time was pretty well covered up when he was at the height of his Route 66 success but the second time was reported in the press and put a damper on his career, though not killing it. Click pick to read a press report.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||10/28/2018|
Would loved to have gotten it on with George Maharis when he was younger
|by Anonymous||reply 20||10/28/2018|
Any more info on George Nader?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||10/28/2018|
In the old days of Hollywood, from the early silents to the 1940s, the majority of the studios had intermediaries between the police and the press so any arrests and other public occurrences wouldn't be made public. Some of it was done by bribes, sometimes threats. Studios would also send out their own security to haul in stars if they heard anything about a possible incident. Once the stars were less under the studios' control, reports began to appear in the press.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||10/28/2018|
No wonder that info looked familiar, it read like bad fan fiction.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||10/29/2018|
The rumors about Flynn being a Nazi spy have already been debunked. There's a book on it called Errol Flynn: The Spy Who Never Was
|by Anonymous||reply 24||10/29/2018|
I wonder if the Strickling guy got the files back yet.....
|by Anonymous||reply 25||10/29/2018|
If you want to cite to a previous post, just type R and the number of the post (R#) which makes it easier for the post to appear rather than having to scroll back to read.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||10/29/2018|
(R16) You're right about the fantards!!! Pathetic to put it mildly. Desperate and obviously lacking in any core of reality. My mother knew Eddy when she attended Julliard through a teacher at the school. When I was 8 or 9 and saw a MacDonald-Eddy film on television and asked her, "Did they like each other?" Her response was "Nelson Eddy preferred male company."
|by Anonymous||reply 27||10/29/2018|
I read somewhere that Clark Gable and Charles Laughton did not get along at all on the set of Mutiny on the Bounty because Gable called him a fag because Laughton told Franchot Tone (then hubby of Gable' s on again-off again love Joan C) about Gable' s casting couch past
|by Anonymous||reply 28||10/31/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 29||10/31/2018|
Lon McCallister - he was part of George Cukor's circle
|by Anonymous||reply 30||10/31/2018|
Back in the 70’s, When I was a closeted man married to a woman, I met a man at the Club Baths in New York. Somehow the subject of Rod Taylor came up. Seems my friend had met him at a cocktail party in Hollywood back in the early 60’s, and they ended up being fuck uddies for about a year.
Hot man. Said he was a Long Island State Patrolman. Gave me his number. But I never called . I was closeted.
Ken Noack, I hope you had a good life.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/01/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/01/2018|
Good thread. Keep it up.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||11/01/2018|
The movie Jack the Giant Killer ('62) is on YouTube and at 25:20 in you get a good glimpse of Kerwin Mathews' s amazing legs in some green tights and white slippers
|by Anonymous||reply 34||11/01/2018|
In William J. Mann's bio on William Haines it says that Jack Benny was gay, but I can't find any info to support this allegation and most info out there on him says he wasn't gay. Maybe it's another Scotty Bowers rumor...
|by Anonymous||reply 35||11/01/2018|
r34, thanks for mentioning Kerwin Mathews! He was a gorgeous man. He did a movie called The Pirates of Blood River with gay actor Peter Arne, who was murdered in 1983
|by Anonymous||reply 36||11/01/2018|
Johnnie Ray began his career performing in blackface at gay clubs in Seattle and Detroit. When he finally got his first big night club gig, at Detroit's famed Flame Show Bar, the managers told him to drop the blackface and he was a hit
|by Anonymous||reply 37||11/01/2018|
R35, there has been a lot of talk about Jack Benny's homosexuality for decades.
Putting William Mann on the level of Scotty Bowers...no. That just is not right.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||11/01/2018|
Jack Benny had very femme mannerisms, so of course there had to be rumors, but not many as he's been largely forgotten.
And there haven't been any rumors of a boyfriend or picking up sailors or being the pig bottom of LA, nothing really. But then he had absolutely no sexual aura, so maybe he just did go home to his wife or beard.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||11/01/2018|
R38 You are aware that William Mann vouches for Scotty Bowers and used him as a source for several of his books, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||11/01/2018|
I got Scotty Bowers confused with Darwin Porter.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||11/01/2018|
Rod Taylor? I can’t believe it. His second wife was Asian...so...
What about any of the actors who portrayed Tarzan over the years?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||11/01/2018|
This past week I saw the Visconti film Senso at the Film Forum and was by how pretty and sort of feminine Farley Granger came across (and I don't mean that as an insult).
I've seen him in a few other films, but I never considered him sexy until this movie.
Who could blame Jean Marais for having a brief affair with him (when Granger had a break in filming & went to Paris) around the time the film was being made.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||11/01/2018|
Speaking of Lon McCallister R30, his lover was William Eythe, an easy-on-the-eyes 20th Century Fox contract player in the Tyrone Power mold. He died in 1957 at the age of 38, due to chronic alcoholism. McCallister survived him and lived into his 90s, and was an esteemed eldergay in his later years.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||11/02/2018|
[quote] What about any of the actors who portrayed Tarzan over the years?
Seems most of them were hetero, especially Johnny Weissmuller who had affairs with a few actresses and chased after the others. Very protective of Maureen O'Sullivan who, after crying on set of one the Tarzan movies about a studio executive harassing her, Johnny later marched to the exec's office, grabbed the guy and threatened him.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||11/02/2018|
William Eythe was handsome
|by Anonymous||reply 46||11/02/2018|
I'm surprised Jean Cocteau let Marais stray.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||11/02/2018|
Wasn't Johnny Weissmuller involved with (married to?) noted size queen Lupe Velez, the Mexican Spitfire?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/02/2018|
He certainly was, r48, but apparently he liked to put on shows for both gays and straights.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||11/02/2018|
Any more info on Douglas MacPhail (who was in Sweethearts, Babes in Arms and Little Nellie Kelly among other films)? He tragically killed himself at age 30 probably due to untreated PTSD from being in the Army. I've heard rumors that he was in the closet but there isn't a whole lot of info on him. His wife and frequent co-star Betty Jaynes is still alive I believe.
Maybe Strickling files guy has more info on him?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||11/02/2018|
Douglas McPhail and Betty Jaynes were supposed to be "the next Nelson Eddy and Jeanette MacDonald" - that didn't happen
|by Anonymous||reply 51||11/02/2018|
[quote]Seems most of them were hetero,
Shit. Including Mike Henry, the hottest, most fap-worthy of them all?
|by Anonymous||reply 52||11/02/2018|
McPhail had an ill-fated fling with Nelson Eddy. It did not end well. In fact it turned rather violent with McPhail hitting Eddy in the face. McPhail was obsessed with becoming Eddy and the obsession helped trigger the end of his marriage to Jaynes. While the duo played the understudies of MacDonald and Eddy in the hit 1938 film, "Sweethearts", the operetta-style of singing was already becoming dated in film. Although the duo were well-received in 1939's "Babes in Arms", McPhail's role in the 1940 film, "Broadway Melody of 1940" was very limited although his rendition of Cole Porter's "I Concentrate on You" was exemplary. Porter also blew McPhail and Porter boasted about the size of McPhail's "instrument" which alarmed the MGM front office. Both he and Jaynes had very good voices but lacked the extra star quality needed to push them into the front ranks.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||11/02/2018|
Mickey Rooney was the most hetero of stars at MGM. His dream was to have sex with every female on the lot, whether a star or a supporting player or extra. However, during the filming of "Babes in Arms" in June of 1939, he briefly upset the top brass at the studio. Rooney always loved to brag about how big his cock was and had no shame talking about it. Douglas McPhail who was in the film with Rooney informed Rooney that his was larger. In Rooney's dressing room they compared erect penises and were caught. Both were hauled in front of Louis B. Mayer and according to a memo about the meeting, both reassured Mayer that he had nothing to worry about. It was merely a case of two guys trying to wager as to who had the most. Mayer had been very concerned because of the money the studio had already invested in Rooney's career and the plans they had for him. By the end of 1939, he would be the top box-office attraction on the lot. Mayer was satisfied with the explanation, at least as far as Rooney was concerned. He continued to have concerns about McPhail and from that point on, the studio invested little in McPhail's future as a star at MGM. By the way, McPhail's was larger!
|by Anonymous||reply 54||11/03/2018|
But R54, none of the people you mentioned are gay. Why bring them up here?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||11/03/2018|
Douglas and the missus.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||11/03/2018|
(R55) For all intents and purposes, Douglas McPhail was more gay than straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||11/03/2018|
I'm sure that he's been already mentioned, but TCM showed the 1936 version of The Last of the Mohicans" this morning with Randolph Scott and Henry Wilcoxon. Both were beautiful men, and Scott supposedly shared more than a house with Cary Grant.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||11/03/2018|
RE: Henry Wilcoxon, when I was a gayling, I knew a middle-aged gay actor in New York in the 1970s. He told me that when he was trying to break into show business in LA in the mid-50s, he met Henry Wilcoxon and became his protégé. My friend maintained that their relationship was non-sexual, but I always wondered if Wilcoxon's attention was more than just paternal.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||11/03/2018|
I heard/read somewhere that Wilcoxon used to pick up male hitchhikers and have sex with them
|by Anonymous||reply 60||11/03/2018|
Strickling files guy - any more info on a certain Miss Garland?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||11/03/2018|
Any info on ballet dancer George Zoritch? Was he gay? I thought I read somewhere that he was George Balanchine' s houseboy
|by Anonymous||reply 62||11/03/2018|
I saw Zoritch live. (I was a *little* boy.) He was touring with either The Ballet Russe or The Ballet Ruse of Monte Carlo, I forget which. My parents wanted to expose me "culture."
|by Anonymous||reply 63||11/03/2018|
^ Er, Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo. And I just read Zorick's Wikipedia entry. In 1957, at age 40, he rejoined that company. I saw him in 1958.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||11/03/2018|
^ Zoritch , not Zorick. Duh.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||11/03/2018|
[quote]Wasn't Johnny Weissmuller involved with (married to?) noted size queen Lupe Velez, the Mexican Spitfire? —Anonymous R48
[quote]He certainly was, [R48], but apparently he liked to put on shows for both gays and straights. —Anonymous R49
Weissmuller put on shows for gays in the studio system or civilians? And Lupe definitely was a size queen, besides Weissmuller, also being involved with Tom Mix, Charlie Chaplin, Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, John Gilbert, Errol Flynn as well as boxers Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||11/04/2018|
Any gay gossip on any of the old Hollywood cowboys - Wayne, Cooper, etc? At least one of them had to be gay/bi or at least dallied.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||11/04/2018|
Wayne was rumored to have slept with John Ford, first in a casting couch situation and later as friends. Maureen O'Hara wrote in her autobiography of walking in on a famous male star and a famous male director going at it. It's long been assumed she was writing about Wayne and Ford as she worked on so many films with them but she never revealed who it was.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||11/04/2018|
I thought she was referring to Tyrone Power who worked with Ford and O'Hara on The Long Gray Line ('55)
|by Anonymous||reply 69||11/04/2018|
Any more info on Robert Taylor? Was he really in a beard-merkin arrangement with Stanwyck?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||11/04/2018|
Certainly possible, r69. Who knows?
But the rumors about Ford and Wayne have been around for decades.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||11/04/2018|
Yes, there had been rumors about Wayne and John Ford for a long time. It was also whispered that young Marion Morrison was no stranger to the casting couch and posed for muscle/physique photos as well before making it big. If you look at photos of a young Wayne, he was VERY attractive.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||11/04/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 73||11/04/2018|
Any info on John Dall (from Rope, The Corn Is Green, and Gun Crazy)?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||11/05/2018|
[quote]Yes, there had been rumors about Wayne and John Ford for a long time. It was also whispered that young Marion Morrison was no stranger to the casting couch and posed for muscle/physique photos as well before making it big. If you look at photos of a young Wayne, he was VERY attractive.
Same with Gary Cooper.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||11/06/2018|
R74 I kind of remember a story from a Bette Davis bio...during the filming of Corn is Green, Bette became very exasperated/impatient with Dall. They were doing a very emotional scene and Dall, naturally, gave a very emotional performance. A very gay emotional performance- lots of swirling arms, swishing hands etc. He was queening out, basically. The scene looked silly, Bette told him to control himself, to literally act straight.
something like that
|by Anonymous||reply 76||11/06/2018|
Who was the gay cowboy who I saw mentioned somewhere on DL - Tom Mix?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||11/06/2018|
William S. Hart
|by Anonymous||reply 78||11/06/2018|
Not an actor , but an entertainer. Was Liberace Gay ?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||11/06/2018|
R79, for real?
|by Anonymous||reply 80||11/06/2018|
r79 Not an actor? NOT AN ACTOR?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||11/06/2018|
Were Danny Lockin and Sal Mineo,'s murders related? The fact that they occurred not too far from each other in CA is kinda suspicious
|by Anonymous||reply 82||11/06/2018|
Very disappointed to see The Aviator and seeing Jude Law play Erroll Flynn -- I was positively convinced and in fact drooling that the gay writer John Logan would at the very least ALLUDE OR SHOW some of the real relationship between he and Howard Hughes: meaning gay sex with Leo and Jude.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||11/06/2018|
No, Lockin was killed by a trick, Mineo was killed in a random robbery
|by Anonymous||reply 84||11/06/2018|
More goss please!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||11/08/2018|
R80 , true story.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||11/08/2018|
Any stories about George Chakiris?
I think West Side Story has the record for most gay personnel of a BWay show: Sondheim, Leonard Bernstein, Jerome Robbins, Arthur Laurents, Larry Kert....
|by Anonymous||reply 87||11/08/2018|
^ Speaking of Larry Kert, any gossip on him, too?
He was cute when he was young
|by Anonymous||reply 88||11/08/2018|
Any Tony Randall stories?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||11/09/2018|
Didn't Brando claim to have fucked Paul Newman? I thought McQueen had made the same statement. Anyone else Newman was connected to? I have heard he got around but not many specific names.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||11/09/2018|
r90 must be Darwin Porter.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||11/10/2018|
Im not sure I would classify this as classic hollywood as I think he came along in the mid to late 40s, but I am currently fascinated by the personal life of actor Craig Stevens. He wasnt a major star but I really liked the tv show Peter Gunn in which he was the star. This is not a western, altho it sounds like one. It s a private eye early 60 s series that lasted 2 years. It was directed by Blake Edwards which is interesting in and of itself.
When Stevens was starting out he had as an agent Henry Willson so he was one of the pretty boys. Henry advised him to marry actress Alexis Smith. SHe was apparently a well known lesbian. They both needed beards. They were married for 50 years and had no kids. Never a breath of scandal. If it was fake it was the best fake marriage in hollywood history. Anyway Stevens plays Peter Gunn, kind of a suave cary grant character. It takes place frequently at a jazz club and his girfriend is a jazz singer. The music was produced by Henry Mancini. The actress/singer playing the part just died, Lola Albright. Anyway his private life I find highly interesting and I wonder how much he and Alexis dabbled same sex during those 50 years?
|by Anonymous||reply 92||11/10/2018|
Does anyone know anything about Bruce Cowling? Saw him in Cause For Alarm, and thought he was really handsome and a decent actor. I can't find any references to any marriages or anything like that but there's very little info on him
|by Anonymous||reply 93||11/10/2018|
George Chakiris , I believe, was A chorus boy in Judy’s first Las Vegas act back in 1956. He had previously been a chorus boy at Paramount and other studios in the early 50s. By the time he won his role in West Side Story, he was a well practiced homosexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||11/10/2018|
Chakiris was a chorus boy in White Christmas - he was in one of Rosie Clooney's numbers
|by Anonymous||reply 95||11/10/2018|
Chakiris was also a dancer in Marilyn's "Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend" number from "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes."
|by Anonymous||reply 96||11/10/2018|
He was also a dancer in Jayne Mansfield' s Vegas show around the same time. There's home movie footage of him in a sailor suit dancing with Jayne . It's on YouTube
|by Anonymous||reply 97||11/10/2018|
Chakiris was gorgeous when he was young
|by Anonymous||reply 98||11/10/2018|
[quote]Maureen O'Hara wrote in her autobiography of walking in on a famous male star and a famous male director going at it. It's long been assumed she was writing about Wayne and Ford as she worked on so many films with them but she never revealed who it was.
R68 I remember reading that, and like R69, I assumed she was referring to Ty Power, partly because throughout her book she gushes about Wayne like he's the embodiment of straight, macho masculinity, loyal to his wife and belonging to a rarefied class of leading men who could believably dominate her strong female characters. If he were gay and messing around, he had her fooled. However, she did imply that Ford closeted and obsessed with "Duke," and was so jealous of her friendship with him that he made her life a living hell during the filming of "The Quiet Man."
|by Anonymous||reply 99||11/12/2018|
I liked Chakiris best in Les Demoiselles de Rochefort.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||11/12/2018|
I thought the guy O'Hara was talking about was someone other than Power - she doesn't have a problem outing dead guys, I thought if it was Power she would have just said so. I assumed it was someone still alive at the time of the book's release, hence the secrecy
|by Anonymous||reply 101||11/12/2018|
Didn't O'Hara write about filming "Kangaroo " in Australia, when costars Peter Lawford and Richard Boone were arrested at a male brothel? Someone wrote about that, anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||11/12/2018|
R50, Betty Jaynes is 97! 50 years older than Miss Judy was when she died.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||11/12/2018|
[quote]I assumed it was someone still alive at the time of the book's release, hence the secrecy
R101 Ah, good point. She took that secret to the grave, along with what Ford asked her to whisper to Wayne in that last scene of "The Quiet Man."
|by Anonymous||reply 104||11/12/2018|
Which dead guys did Maureen O’Hara out?
|by Anonymous||reply 105||11/12/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 106||11/12/2018|
Gotta love DL for having a thread on "Stars Who've Outed Other Stars." And voila, a discussion about this very question...
[quote]Didn't Maureen O'Hara out John Ford in some book?
[quote]Maureen O'Hara outed John Ford her bio. Did she mention who she caught him with?
[quote]Re: Director, John Ford's outing, Maureen O'Hara, in her autobiography writes that she say him kissing another man when she walked into his room to show him something concerning her wardrobe. "The gentleman Ford was with was one of the most famous leading men in the picture business". Earlier, she had come to confer with him, and Ford was drawing pictures of penises. All sizes and shapes. She didn't react as he probably expected; i.e. shocked. But, the confusing part about the kiss: The actor Ford kissed, approached her later, and asked, "Why didn't you tell me John Ford was homosexual?"
[quote]I've forgotten some of that Maureen O'Hara thing, but she definitely outed Ford. The confusion came because she was at Columbia looking at costume sketches for The Long Gray Line. However, Power was not there, and Ford was working on another film so it could have been anyone who was at Columbia studios at the time.
[quote]Re: Maureen O'Hara's bio: "The gentleman Ford was with was one of the most famous leading men in the picture business". It wouldn't be a studio worker. It wouldn't be Robert Wagner. Robert Wagner gave an interview, where he said John Ford led him on, regarding a part Wagner wanted. He built up RW's hopes, then told him he had already given the part to Jeffrey Hunter. Maureen O'Hara was talking about "The Long Gray Line", (1955). This movie starred Tyrone Power.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||11/12/2018|
[quote] she doesn't have a problem outing dead guys
oh my, always that meme; not that having gay sex means someone is gay, but still
|by Anonymous||reply 108||11/12/2018|
Van Johnson? I think he was making The Caine Mutiny at Columbia around the same time as The Long Gray Line
|by Anonymous||reply 109||11/12/2018|
Funny about Nelson Eddy and Douglas McPhail, as they each starred in iconic MGM musical numbers, Eddy singing "Stouthearted Men" in New Moon and a couple of years later McPhail singing "Babes in Arms" in Babes in Arms, that are virtually the same staging.
Sorry, if I was cleverer, I'd post links.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||11/12/2018|
Another bit of trivia:
Mary Tyler Moore played Craig (Peter Gunn) Stevens' receptionist but the gimmick was that you only ever saw her crossed legs, sitting at the phones. I don't think she was even credited.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||11/12/2018|
I think MTM played that role (uncredited) on an earlier show called "Richard Diamond, Private Eye" starring David Janssen.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||11/12/2018|
Oops. You're absolutely right, r112.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||11/12/2018|
She had a name on that show, but for the life of me I can't remember it. Max?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||11/12/2018|
MTM's character was named Sam.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||11/12/2018|
Excellent. Thanks, r115.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||11/12/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 117||11/13/2018|
Any gossip on Nils Asther?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||11/14/2018|
What about Zachary "Monte Beragon" Scott? He was married but pinged
|by Anonymous||reply 119||11/15/2018|
Laurence Olivier and Danny Kaye - who was the top?
|by Anonymous||reply 120||11/16/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 121||11/16/2018|
Strickling guy - did you get the files back yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 122||11/16/2018|
[quote]Laurence Olivier and Danny Kaye - who was the top?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||11/16/2018|
Rod Taylor, gay or bi? I can't stop laughing. Straight as an arrow and a womanizer to boot. Jeez how you desperate , queens make stuff up.
On the other hand, Alexis Smith was a lesbian, and her hundreds of years marriage to one Craig Nelson (Peter Gunn) was lavender. Thanks, R92 for bringing it up.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||11/16/2018|
He was a Hot Rod, but oh that Aussie sun!
|by Anonymous||reply 125||11/16/2018|
R124, when did anyone say he was gay? Did I miss something? You sound like a straight woman with the "desperate queens" comment
|by Anonymous||reply 126||11/16/2018|
Did I not read about rumors about the very close Gish sisters, Dorothy and Lillian?
There was also a whiff of real brotherly love between juvenile twins Bobby and Billy Mauch.
(As I read that back I detect a "Hollywood Babylon" source.)
|by Anonymous||reply 127||11/16/2018|
Allegedly Errol Flynn had a job on a farm in Australia where he castrated bulls with his teeth!
|by Anonymous||reply 128||11/16/2018|
Gay! Gay! Gay!
|by Anonymous||reply 129||11/16/2018|
R126 see R31
|by Anonymous||reply 130||11/16/2018|
Teeny and Weensy were scissor sisters!
|by Anonymous||reply 131||11/16/2018|
Any info on Laurence Harvey or Alan Bates?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||11/18/2018|
"Oh, there's rumors about Rod La Rocque being very light in the loafers, but just look at him--the man obviously loves hot snatch!"
|by Anonymous||reply 133||11/18/2018|
r118 Can't remember where I read it, but supposedly Garbo got annoyed with Nils during a passionate love scene and shoved him away, saying "Don't kiss me likeI'm one of your sailors!"
|by Anonymous||reply 134||11/18/2018|
Alan Bates was deeply closeted and wouldn't admit he was gay even to his male lovers. This extract from the authorized biography, "Otherwise Engaged: The Life Of Alan Bates" by Donald Spoto, appeared in the Daily Fail...
[quote]In 1982 he had been introduced at a party to a young artist 26 years his junior named Gerard Hastings, at that time just 22. The attraction was immediate.
[quote]Gerard learned that although Alan had dear women friends, they were not objects of his sexual desire. "He appreciated women for companionship and men for sexual fulfilment," says Gerard. "His erotic fantasies mainly involved men - he called attractive young men 'haunches of venison', for example.
[quote]"Yet sometimes, oddly, he seemed to feel very uncomfortable about his sexuality, and felt it necessary to reaffirm his masculinity, or his idea of masculinity. He actually turned to me one day and said, 'Of course, you know I'm not gay.'
[quote]"By this, I don't think he meant that he was bisexual, but that he did not consider his homosexual tendencies as homosexual per se, just as sexual escapades. He hated being categorised - hated it. As a result, Alan could be very hypocritical about his sexuality, and eventually this didn't help us."
|by Anonymous||reply 135||11/18/2018|
R134 I read the same thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||11/18/2018|
Was Edward Mulhare gay? His imdb bio calls him a "confirmed bachelor"
|by Anonymous||reply 137||11/19/2018|
Well, I think we all know what that means.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||11/19/2018|
r136, according to Darwin Porter, Garbo wouldn't kiss Asther because she said she didn't know where his mouth had been the night before. She should talk.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||11/19/2018|
Darwin Porter shouldn't be counted as a verifiable source for anything, period.
Any info on dancer Marc Wilder? There's very little info on him but he's always pinged
|by Anonymous||reply 140||11/20/2018|
Character actor Henry Brandon, who frequently played villains, was gay and one of his bfs was Mark Herron (Judy's fourth husband!)
|by Anonymous||reply 141||11/20/2018|
Dirk Bogarde's bf, Anthony Forwood was also an actor, though he gave up his career to be Dirk's "manager"
He was a handsome man
|by Anonymous||reply 142||11/20/2018|
R140, yes, really queened it up in the Adam and Eve dance in Can Can. We could ask Shirley about him.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||11/20/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 144||11/21/2018|
Any info on John Emery, who was once Mr. Tallulah Bankhead? He was also married to dancer Tamera Geva who was one of Alla Nazimova' s many lovers
|by Anonymous||reply 145||11/22/2018|
Emery was from the Forrest Tucker/ John Ireland huge cock class. Tallulah allegedly brought a bunch of her friends into their bedroom where a passed out Emery was lying spread eagled and she uncovered him for all to gape at in awe. One of the guests confirmed the massiveness of it.
That's Emery with the cane, the guy sitting down was one of Vivian Vance's abusive husbands.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||11/24/2018|
^^Philip Ober. Played Kerr's neglectful husband in From Here to Eternity. Also was in a film with Vivian Vance (no scenes together): Secret Fury? Had Colbert and Ryan starring.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||11/24/2018|
Their bedroom, R146??? LOL.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||11/24/2018|
Great porn name.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||11/25/2018|
[quote]Any info on Laurence Harvey or Alan Bates?
Both were gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||11/25/2018|
Any more gossip about same sex hookups behind the scenes?
|by Anonymous||reply 151||11/25/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 152||11/28/2018|
Crawford supposedly said of John Carroll (her costar in Susan And God) re his sexual preference: "Absolutely anything with a hole."
|by Anonymous||reply 153||11/28/2018|
Carroll was kinda hot
|by Anonymous||reply 154||11/28/2018|
Any gossip on Nick Adams? Was he gay/bi or was that just rumor? Did he really screw Elvis and James Dean (among others)?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||11/29/2018|
Nick Adams was cute for a short guy
|by Anonymous||reply 156||11/29/2018|
Where's Strickling guy?
|by Anonymous||reply 157||11/30/2018|
R153 Miss Rita doesn't look pleased there.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||11/30/2018|
Edmund Lowe and Lilyan Tashman bearded for each other. 'Ol Lil got around during her short lifetime.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||12/01/2018|
^ The white Will and Jada?
|by Anonymous||reply 160||12/01/2018|
Might have been mentioned already, but wasn't Burt Lancaster one of the few actors who publicly admitted being sexually attracted to other men and saw nothing wrong with the reverse? I think he might have also admitted to the casual same-sex-fling.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||12/02/2018|
You're dreaming, R161.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||12/02/2018|
R161 This is from Darwin Porter's book "Brando Unzipped," so take it with a grain of salt...
[quote]While Tennessee Williams was watching Kazan direct Vivien and Karl Malden in a pivotal scene, Frank Merlo slipped off to Mushy Callahan's Gymnasium on the Warners lot. As he was undressing,he overheard two men laughing and joking in one of the shower stalls. Hoping to get in on the fun, he stripped down and walked toward them. "Those two didn't even see me. I was all so very gay. To my surprise, I saw BURT LANCASTER and Marlon showering together. Burt was soaping Marlon's back with one hand and probing his ass with the index finger of his other hand. Marlon was giggling like a school girl. I left those two lovebirds alone and seduced a well-hung grip that day instead."
[quote]Brando's agent Edith Van Cleve allegedly explained Marlon's fondness for men: "'Instead of being hostile to actors with whom he was competing, Marlon tried to seduce them,'" she said. "'It was as if the act of seduction gave him the edge. Take poor Montgomery Clift, for instance. Instead of being leery of Monty, Brando overpowered him sexually. At any rate, when I combed all of New York for Brando to tell him he was on again for the part of Stanley, he was screwing Burt Lancaster. If I had been a man, I too would have wanted to screw Burt Lancaster.'"
R161 Lancaster holds a prominent place on Ranker's "rumored to be bisexual" list, sandwiched *ahem* between Brando and Dean (@ #4)...
|by Anonymous||reply 163||12/02/2018|
I wouldn't take anything Darwin Porter writes seriously
Brando did publicly say he was bisexual however...
|by Anonymous||reply 164||12/02/2018|
R163, that would be a barrel of salt, if the info is from Porter.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||12/02/2018|
More on Lancaster...
|by Anonymous||reply 166||12/02/2018|
Lancaster wanted to be in LA CAGE AUX FOLLES, but his agents convinced him it wasn't a good idea. I know Kirk Douglas was once asked whether the rumors about Lancaster also liking men were true and he said they were bullshit, but then he would, wouldn't he?
|by Anonymous||reply 167||12/02/2018|
^ Did Gary Morton talk him out of it?
|by Anonymous||reply 168||12/03/2018|
I got a gay vibe from Burt Lancaster from a scene in From Here to Eternity, where he's sitting in a road with Montgomery Clift. They're both drunk after leaving the bar, and they have a conversation. Lancaster reaches over and starts stroking Clift's head and caressing the nape of his neck in a very sensual manner. That touch doesn't look like the move of one buddy to another - it's more lover-like and I always wondered if Burt was showing another side of himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||12/03/2018|
R169 supposedly Lancaster's actions in that scene were impromptu but the director Fred Zinnemann kept them in the final print
|by Anonymous||reply 170||12/03/2018|
During the filming of "...Eternity", didn't Clift and Sinatra spend nights getting drunk together and having to be delivered home. I wonder if Clift ever made moves on the straight Sinatra, since he reputedly became very sexually aggressive after having a few drinks.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||12/04/2018|
r171, read Darwin Porter!
|by Anonymous||reply 172||12/04/2018|
Darwin Porter is a liar
|by Anonymous||reply 173||12/04/2018|
Anything on Vincent Price? There was a rumor that he and Errol Flynn slept together
|by Anonymous||reply 174||12/10/2018|
Errol Flynn had a penchant for underage girls. Vincent Price, on the other hand...
[quote]“I tricked with Vinny for years. Sex with him was pleasant, unhurried, gentle…in 1974 he would marry Australian-born actress Coral Browne. She worked primarily in England and although she was a dyke—I know because I would fix her up with many tricks with young women in future years—the couple were devoted to one another. They had virtually no sex life together but they cared deeply for each other.”
|by Anonymous||reply 175||12/10/2018|
Price and Coral Browne were outed by his daughter in a bio she wrote about her dad
Errol Flynn, like Brando, seemed like a nympho who would screw anyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||12/10/2018|
I've yet to hear reports of Flynn with men, except from Darwin Porter who folded in liberal amounts of frothy fanfiction. I'd believe Bowers over Porter...
[quote]Bowers’ anecdotes about heterosexual Flynn are both startling and expected. In addition to alcohol consumption at an almost impossible levels (Flynn was dead from alcoholism by 50), the author details the actor’s predilection for “young stuff.” “I don’t care if she has to be 18, just as long as she looks and behaves like someone between, well, let’s say 14 and 16.”
|by Anonymous||reply 177||12/10/2018|
The news is really sweeping the towne - Beryl Reid loves Coral Browne!
|by Anonymous||reply 178||12/10/2018|
Judy Carne talked about her affair with the adult daughter of a famous movie star in her autobio - it was Rory Flynn, Errol's daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||12/10/2018|
Burt married a lesbian?
|by Anonymous||reply 180||12/11/2018|
Were you just hatched from an egg, R180?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||12/11/2018|
There is a Darwin Porter troll here for years who insists that all Porter's reporting was made up. In fact, Porter made his name by saying publicly what had been well known and well accepted rumor for years.
Someone doesn't like that. I wonder what that poster's true motives are.
I would be starting a war with this person except that I'm not engaged to enough to argue with it and won't.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||12/11/2018|
^ Sorry, not engaged enough to argue, not engaged to enough to argue. Regardless, the Porter troll is tiresome and most of what Porter wrote was well known but never before said publicly.
"She didn't dare say that! It isn't true!"
Aw, shut up.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||12/11/2018|
R182, Darwin, dear, don't you have some more fiction to shit out?
|by Anonymous||reply 184||12/11/2018|
R179, The lesbian daughter would have been Dierdre Flynn, not Rory, who had a son.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||12/11/2018|
"There is a Darwin Porter troll here for years who insists that all Porter's reporting was made up. In fact, Porter made his name by saying publicly what had been well known and well accepted rumor for years."
Oh, come on - do you know anything about this guy? His sources are dubious - he'll claim he had access to some sort of secret diary or memoir from someone who died years ago, without providing evidence that those documents existed. Yeah, some of his stuff is based on pre-existing rumors, and I wouldn't say ALL of the things he writes are untrue, but he definitely lacks credibility.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||12/12/2018|
R185, may I remind you that having a son has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality?
|by Anonymous||reply 187||12/12/2018|
Porter is a terrible writer and his "books" are full of rumor, gossip, and probably a bit of fantasy, but.....a lot of what he writes is stuff that has been discussed elsewhere. To scream "It's all lies!" isn't very accurate either.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||12/12/2018|
Sean Flynn was gorgeous!
|by Anonymous||reply 189||12/12/2018|
Yeah, he was fine. His mother was French actress Lili Damita.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||12/12/2018|
R187/R179 Oh, please, it was meant as additional information. Dierdre's the lez, and you should take the time to get your facts straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||12/12/2018|
Have a very Nelson Eddy Christmas!
|by Anonymous||reply 192||12/13/2018|
Any info on Grady Sutton, Laird Cregar, Harold Lloyd Jr.?
|by Anonymous||reply 193||12/13/2018|
Gay, gay, don't know
|by Anonymous||reply 194||12/14/2018|
According to Hollywood Babylon, Harold Lloyd was the straightest actor of all (big in Hollywood for McCarthy).
|by Anonymous||reply 195||12/14/2018|
Sean Flynn was delicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||12/14/2018|
Good picture of Sean in Darwin Porter's Hollywood Babylon. Very good.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||12/14/2018|
I read Darwin's book on Paul Newman. He had plenty of examples of Paul's male lovers, but interestingly, no females for Joanne.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||12/14/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 199||12/14/2018|
YUMMY ! r199
How big a star was Sean Flynn?
|by Anonymous||reply 200||12/14/2018|
Darwin Porter shows a lot more of Sean.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||12/14/2018|
Were Sal Mineo and Jill Haworth a bearding arrangement or were they really in love?
|by Anonymous||reply 202||12/17/2018|
Jill broke up with Sal because of the boys.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||12/17/2018|
R198 that's because Joanne is still alive. Porter had to restrain his fabulizing.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||12/17/2018|
R193, wow. Wikipedia has a really sad entry about Harold Lloyd, JR. He was in a movie called "The Flaming Urge" (really). It's on YouTube and is about a guy who is fascinated by fires, and fights against his urges...There's a pickup scene at 15:00. Apparently Sr. was rather understanding of his son, but Jr. was an alcoholic who died young.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||12/17/2018|
Any info on tap dancer Lee Dixon? He appeared in a few WB musicals in the late '30s and was in the OBC of Oklahoma. He died young and I've heard rumors that he was gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||12/18/2018|
I've heard he was gay too. He was in a film with doomed bi or gay Ross Alexander.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||12/18/2018|
Lee Dixon was cute
|by Anonymous||reply 208||12/18/2018|
R206 Love those hoofers from the Golden Age...
|by Anonymous||reply 209||12/19/2018|
R209 Damn, he was talented, and cute as HELL!
|by Anonymous||reply 210||12/19/2018|
The first Will in the original Oklahoma!!^^^^
|by Anonymous||reply 211||12/19/2018|
Dixon makes the chopped-up Rob Marshall dances look like dog sick.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||12/19/2018|
Died of alcoholism at 42. Sure is something at R209.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||12/19/2018|
R209 Thanks for posting this. Lee Dixon is great.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||12/19/2018|
I think that Lee Dixon looks a lot like NPH.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||12/19/2018|
In this rare and surprisingly homoerotic clip, Lee Dixon dances in his underwear with Ross Alexander (most remembered for playing Jeremy Pitt, friend and navigator to Errol Flynn's Captain Blood) another rumored homosexual who tragically ended his life with a shotgun at the age of 29.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||12/19/2018|
Impressive TCM profile of Ross Alexander's tragic life in Hollywood as a closeted homosexual...
|by Anonymous||reply 217||12/19/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 218||12/19/2018|
R216 - thanks for posting that clip!!!! It's sooooooo gay!
|by Anonymous||reply 219||12/19/2018|
There's a great site on character actor Ernest Thesiger, best known as Dr. Pretorius in Bride of Frankenstein, and it covers his whole career on stage and screen, plus it has pics of him in drag. Fun fact: he wrote several books on needlepoint sewing
|by Anonymous||reply 220||12/23/2018|
R124. Nice try, but Alexis Smith was married to Craig Stevens (both likely gay), not Craig Nelson, you idiot. Try checking your posting before throwing shade at someone else!
|by Anonymous||reply 221||12/23/2018|
R220, also, in his spare time, he drove big rigs cross-country.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||12/23/2018|
R220 Another fun fact. His cousin was the explorer Wilfred Thesiger. Wilfred's photos of Arab male pulchritude in his books Arabian Sands and The Marsh Arabs (well worth reading by the way) suggest that he shared Ernest's tastes.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||12/23/2018|
Ernest Thesiger was also friends with the notorious Earl of Beauchamp, who was expelled from Britain after being involved in a notorious gay scandal
|by Anonymous||reply 224||12/23/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 225||12/27/2018|
Any info on Cyril 'Captain Hook' Ritchard?
|by Anonymous||reply 226||12/27/2018|
Ross Alexander was a hot mess.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||12/27/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 228||12/27/2018|
Was Rafael Campos, one of Dinah Washington's husbands, gay? He always pinged
|by Anonymous||reply 229||12/28/2018|
r229 What a difference a gay makes.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||12/28/2018|
I have to admit that I'm too lazy to scroll through 200 + posts on David Manners (1901-1998) . I read recently that the story about his star being removed from the Hollywood Walk of Fame because he was gay is untrue and that he never had a star. There wasn't one in place to remove.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||12/28/2018|
I'm a David Manners fan and I never heard anything about him having his star removed
|by Anonymous||reply 232||12/28/2018|
Someone said of Tom Drake, of MMISL, that he was an All-American boy who liked All-American boys. He and Gene Kelly starred opposite both Judy and Deanna.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||12/28/2018|
Tom Drake was a cutie
|by Anonymous||reply 234||12/29/2018|
Any info on George Nader, whom Confidential Magazine outed instead of Rock Hudson?
|by Anonymous||reply 235||12/31/2018|
He looked great in his scenes with young and luscious John Saxon in "The Unguarded Moment." George was a cop and John was a bad boy...
|by Anonymous||reply 236||12/31/2018|
Confidential never outed George Nader
|by Anonymous||reply 237||12/31/2018|
Anything about Richard Carlson?
|by Anonymous||reply 238||01/01/2019|
[quote]Any info on George Nader, whom Confidential Magazine outed instead of Rock Hudson?
R235 It was Tab Hunter that Confidential outed instead of Rock Hudson.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||01/01/2019|
They outed Tab Hunter but it wasn't as an "exchange" to avoid outing Rock Hudson. It was Rory Calhoun who Henry Willson sold down the river to protect Rock - he wasn't outed as gay, he was outed as being an ex-con
|by Anonymous||reply 240||01/01/2019|
[quote]Anything about Richard Carlson?
With a wife as ugly as he had, he MUST have been gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||01/01/2019|
R240 Willson may have outed Calhoun to preserve his meal ticket, Rock Hudson, but he definitely did it to Tab Hunter, as Tab, himself, recalls...
[quote]In September 1955, just as my career was taking off — I had just starred in one of the biggest box-office hits of the year, Battle Cry — Confidential targeted me. It all came about because Henry Willson, who "discovered" me and many other "pretty boy" actors, was upset when I left him to be represented by another agent. Around the same time, he learned that Confidential was planning to out Rock Hudson, who still was one of his clients, so he cut a deal with them to keep Rock out of their pages, feeding them dirt on me instead. Specifically, he made them aware of the fact that five years earlier, before I was anybody, I had been arrested for disorderly conduct when police raided a party at which I — and a number of other gay people — were in attendance. Confidential then ran the story on its cover and described it as "a pajama party," insinuating that it had been some sort of gay orgy.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||01/02/2019|
[quote]Any info on Cyril 'Captain Hook' Ritchard?
He was married for many years to actress Madge Elliott, until her death in 1955. But he certainly seemed like a big ol' poof, which made his Captain Hook a sheer delight. Everyone else I've ever seen in the role has been a disappointment compared with Cyril.
Oh, and he wore a dress to do this insane number with a clearly unbalanced Liza.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||01/02/2019|
^ That is a hoot!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 244||01/02/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 245||01/03/2019|
In case--unlikely--there's interest: R243 is from a 1965 TV show about Riding Hood, music by Jule Styne.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||01/04/2019|
Has James Mitchell been mentioned yet? Any gossip on him?
|by Anonymous||reply 247||01/05/2019|
Cyril Ritchard's wedding photo.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||01/05/2019|
"It was the best of times; it was the worst of times."
I fear something has been lost, even though we have gained so much...
|by Anonymous||reply 249||01/05/2019|
That was a lavender marriage
|by Anonymous||reply 250||01/05/2019|
Any reason why David Manners left Hollywood and went back to BWay in 1936? I've heard several rumors about why he did so ranging from him being busted cruising in an LA park to refusing to marry a starlet to make him look hetero to being photographed in a compromising position with another actor at a Garden of Allah party
|by Anonymous||reply 251||01/13/2019|
R39 Jack Benny had as much sexual aura as Kevin Spacey has (and the late Ralph Richardson had)
|by Anonymous||reply 252||01/13/2019|
R251, I'll take C, please, with the other actor being Jack LaRue.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||01/13/2019|
Any updates from the Strickling Files guy? We miss you.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||01/13/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 255||01/13/2019|
I've heard rumors that Vincent Price and Errol Flynn hooked up during the filming of Elizabeth and Essex
|by Anonymous||reply 256||01/14/2019|
Also, Donald Crisp and Henry Daniell
|by Anonymous||reply 257||01/14/2019|
James Mitchell (The Bandwagon and All My Children) was the long-time partner of Oscar-winning Hollywood costume designer Albert Wolsky (All That Jazz, Grease, Bugsy). They worked together on The Turning Point.
I believe Albert is still with us though he must be close to 90.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||01/14/2019|
Donald Crisp was gay?!
|by Anonymous||reply 259||01/14/2019|
Poor Errol Flynn. He fucked anything that moved. He was a Nazi. He castrated bulls with his teeth. He was a rapist. He was a drug smuggler. The poor man. He certainly was a hell raiser but most of what has been said about him sounds like just so much sensational bullshit. Charles HIgham, the guy who wrote the book depicting him as a Nazi spy (he also said Flynn was bi-sexual )admitted that he had no evidence that Flynn was a German agent, but said he had “pieced together a mosaic that proves that he is." Flynn's friend David Niven criticised Higham for his unfounded accusations. Subsequent Flynn biographers are critical of Higham's allegations, and have found no evidence to corroborate them.
I think Flynn liked to party and fuck (he may well have fucked iunderage girls, but I doubt he was the only star in Hollywood to do that) but all that other crap that's been said about him sounds like pure bullshit. One rumor was that he was cruel to animals; his daughter stated she had never seen him be anything but kind to animals. Truman Capote has said he fucked Flynn; well, everyone knows how truthful THAT little troll was. I think poor Errol has been lied about a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||01/14/2019|
R258 did you know Mitchell? He was prime in his prime. I think he was not very happy working on Band Wagon, which is just about the best-ever movie musical.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||01/14/2019|
R260 Truth. Flynn is unfairly demonized and Higham's book is generally regarded as fiction. His children speak highly of him as a father. But one egregious thing is true; he was an abusive drunk to women. Afterwards, he would beg forgiveness, sometimes in tears, but when drunk he could be out of control according to the memoir of his second wife, Nora Eddington.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||01/14/2019|
Unfairly demonized? The guy was a creep who went after underage girls. I doubt everything Higham said about him was true, but let's not pretend he was a great person.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||01/14/2019|
Did Errol and Olivia do the horizontal tango?
|by Anonymous||reply 264||01/14/2019|
R264 According to Wikipedia...
[quote]While Flynn acknowledged his personal attraction to Olivia de Havilland, assertions by film historians that they were romantically involved during the filming of Robin Hood were denied by de Havilland. "Yes, we did fall in love and I believe that this is evident in the screen chemistry between us," she told an interviewer in 2009. "But his circumstances [Flynn's marriage to Damita] at the time prevented the relationship going further. I have not talked about it a great deal but the relationship was not consummated. Chemistry was there though. It was there."
|by Anonymous||reply 265||01/14/2019|
R264, Ms.ODH WOULD NEVAH.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||01/14/2019|
Do we believe her?
|by Anonymous||reply 267||01/14/2019|
Alfred Lunt was alleged to have flings with Noel Coward, actor-director Richard Whorf, Monty Clift, Albert Dekker, and Sanford Meisner
|by Anonymous||reply 268||01/14/2019|
Was Lynne Fontanne a lesbian or asexual?
|by Anonymous||reply 269||01/14/2019|
I enjoyed reading Flynn's autobiography My Wicked Wicked Ways
|by Anonymous||reply 270||01/14/2019|
Shame he never got to finish the follow-up, I'm an Evil Nazi Bull Dyke Heel.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||01/14/2019|
How hold are you R260, twelve?
"he may well have fucked underage girls" MAY HAVE? Flynn was known for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||01/14/2019|
"The guy was a creep who went after underage girls."
I don't think he "went after" them. They went after HIM. At any rate, he was probably no different from a great many male film stars. And if you want to talk about a creep who went after young girls, Charlie Chaplin, the great, revered Charlie Chaplin, was fixated on young girls. He had to marry two of them because he knocked them up. And his final marriage was to an 18 year old; he was 54. Charlie was always a chicken hawk.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||01/15/2019|
Errol Flynn, age 48, in 1957. He would be dead 2 years later.
Go to 19:10.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||01/15/2019|
So it's okay for Errol Flynn to have fucked underage girls because Charlie Chaplin did?!
|by Anonymous||reply 275||01/15/2019|
R274, thx. He was rather nicely absurdist there. Olivia said that in the late 50s she was at a party when an older man said hello. She didn't know him until he introduced himself as Flynn. He had changed that much. She claimed.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||01/15/2019|
"So it's okay for Errol Flynn to have fucked underage girls because Charlie Chaplin did?!"
Just sayin' that Errol Flynn was not the only male movie star who liked them young. He seems to be singled out for some reason ("In Like Flynn") but his behavior no doubt wasn't that much different from a lot of other men in his position.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||01/15/2019|
R273, you're dreaming.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||01/15/2019|
R270 Rollicking good read.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||01/15/2019|
And Errol was a good Me in Too Much Too Soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||01/15/2019|
Any info on Billy DeWolfe?
|by Anonymous||reply 281||01/19/2019|
Yes R281. Frank Borman, one of the astronauts who circled the moon in 1968, reported that he could see he was gay from outer space. But as a young gayling, I always liked him as I liked Charles Nelson Reilly in "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir" and Paul Lynde on "Bewitched." And my very conservative father always laughed at all of them as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||01/19/2019|
I've always been curious about the rather homely looking Charles Smith. Smith had many decent roles over the years as a contract player with MGM, but in two films, "The Shop Around the Corner" and "A Guy Named Joe", he had barely more than bit parts but they are both so very affecting, particularly, the later as a homesick G.I. I presume he was gay, as all you have to do is watch him as one of Judy's back up boys in "In The Good Old Summertime" to tell.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||01/19/2019|
Does anyone else know anything about Lowell Gilmore? He pinged.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||01/19/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 285||01/19/2019|
Any info on Douglass Montgomery? I know he married Michael Wilding' s ex wife in the early '50s just as Wilding was set to marry La Liz but there's very little info on him
|by Anonymous||reply 286||01/20/2019|
^ He flames in every move I've seen him in
|by Anonymous||reply 287||01/20/2019|
Fun fact: Douglass Montgomery tested for the role of Ashley in GWTW, as did Melvyn Douglas, Jeffrey Lynn and Vincent Price [who made a test in NYC, unlike the other actors Price' s test is lost)
|by Anonymous||reply 288||01/21/2019|
R288. Price would have been a much more credible Aunt Pittypat.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||01/21/2019|
Richard Carlson also tested for the role of Ashley Wilkes
|by Anonymous||reply 290||01/21/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 291||01/21/2019|
R289 or Prissy
|by Anonymous||reply 292||01/22/2019|
Orson Welles was rumored to be bi. Guys who he allegedly slept with: Thornton Wilder, Guthrie McClintock, Vincent Price, Tyrone Power, John Gielgud, Jack Cassidy (when Cassidy was a chorus boy in Welles' s musical version of Around the World in 80 Days), Tony Perkins (who slept with Welles to get his role in The Trial). like Brando, Errol Flynn and John Barrymore, Orson seemed like he'd fuck anyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||01/24/2019|
I never heard that Welles liked guys, although he did work with lots of gays
|by Anonymous||reply 294||01/25/2019|
R4 I've heard both Errol Flynn and John Barrymore were both bisexual (no surprise on Flynn's part) from older relatives who worked in Hollywood way back when. There were rumors the two were more than just drinking buddies.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||01/25/2019|
Welles also worked with this 'mo:
|by Anonymous||reply 296||01/25/2019|
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|by Anonymous||reply 298||01/29/2019|
Actor David Bacon, who was murdered in the 40s
|by Anonymous||reply 299||01/29/2019|
Bobby Harron, who was a member of DW Griffith' s stock company for many years, killed himself because he was deeply closeted and Catholic. There were rumors that he was busted by the cops, shortly before his death, at Everard bathhouse in NYC after it was raided by the vice squad and that Griffith and Lillian Gish bailed him out of jail.
Ralph Graves, a regular in Mack Sennett comedies and in several of Frank Capra's early films, was gay and rumored to have slept with Howard Hughes when Hughes first came to Hollywood
|by Anonymous||reply 300||01/31/2019|
The Everard Baths were a cruising ground even back then?
|by Anonymous||reply 301||01/31/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 302||01/31/2019|
[quote]Bobby Harron, who was a member of DW Griffith' s stock company for many years, killed himself because he was deeply closeted and Catholic. There were rumors that he was busted by the cops, shortly before his death, at Everard bathhouse in NYC after it was raided by the vice squad
R33 Sounds like he killed himself because he was brutally outed and shamed, not because he was Catholic.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||02/02/2019|
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|by Anonymous||reply 305||02/02/2019|
Was in a silent movie group on Facebook (yeah, yeah, I know, FB sucks...) and one of the members mentioned Valentino being bisexual and one of the moderators (a female btw) freaked out, saying there was no proof, he was 100% straight, etc etc and that the member would be muted and then banned if they posted such messages again. One, I was really surprised by the over-reaction (had never seen it with other posts) and two, I think not only was/is bisexuality common in Hollywood's past as it is today but that it was somewhat well known in Valentino's case.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||02/03/2019|
r306, I used to post at the TCM forums and some posters would freak out if you suggested any classic star may have had same sex affairs. If you suggested that Garbo or Hepburn ate pussy people would flame you
|by Anonymous||reply 307||02/03/2019|
R307 Gurl, they would totally flame ME.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||02/03/2019|
R307 Same here. I used to post to a few entertainment boards and, having had family and friends who had worked in Hollywood ages ago, would sometimes contribute stories and gossip. Granted, some of the tales were second- or third-hand accounts, but it got to be annoying with some people always remarking "But how do YOU know for a fact? YOU weren't there!" I suppose some just can't face having their favorite stars being made less than perfect.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||02/04/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 310||02/05/2019|
Valentino was 1000% gay, known to all. Well, maybe not those under 30.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||02/06/2019|
Well, there are plenty of elderly fangurls insisting he was straight, so not sure about the "those under 30" comment. Most people under 30 (or, honestly, under 70) don't care about him anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||02/06/2019|
There are others who don't like talking about a male celeb's gay sex life either (not necessarily debating if they were gay or not). Mention Rock Hudson, for example, hooking up with another actor or local trade and people will freak out. "Do we really need to know/talk about that?" "Do we need to know what went out behind bedroom doors?" It's called GOSSIP.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||02/07/2019|
^ yeah, I love it how, when a star comes out they always say shit like "Why do we need to know this?" but they don't mind straight stars flaunting their wives and girlfriends
|by Anonymous||reply 314||02/07/2019|
Just saw Phillips Holmes in The Criminal Code ('31) on TCM the other day and he's wearing a LOT of makeup...
|by Anonymous||reply 315||02/07/2019|
Phillip Reed pinged
|by Anonymous||reply 316||02/07/2019|
Look at the woman on the left. No wonder he was gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||02/07/2019|
What woman on the left?!
|by Anonymous||reply 318||02/07/2019|
The most gorgeous gay couple: Cary and Randy.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||02/07/2019|
Who was the top?
|by Anonymous||reply 320||02/08/2019|
This one goes waaaay back but C.M. Hallard was a popular star of the English stage in the Victorian and Edwardian era, when films came into vogue he started doing silents and then talkies. His career lasted 50 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||02/08/2019|
Any info on dancer Marc Platt? Wiki says he was married twice and had three kids (one by the first wife, two by the second). He's always pinged to me and there's rumors that he was Cole Porter' s houseboy early in his career
|by Anonymous||reply 322||02/11/2019|
Well he was in a 1941 short film called "The Gay Parisian "...
Died at 100.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||02/12/2019|
How many of the 7 Brothers were gay?
Not Howard Keel.
Not Russ Tamblyn.
Not Jacques D'amboise.
Definitely Tommy Rall.
Maybe Marc Platt.
Hoping for Jeff Richards.
Who am I forgetting?
|by Anonymous||reply 324||02/12/2019|
Pat Renella, need a question settled that has been on my mind for a while.
Nice looking guy but cannot find a single female romantic link or anything else. Never married, no kids and died at aged 83 survived by a niece.
Guy wasn't so bad to look at, yet managed to have an entire acting career and life in Hollywood without a single female attachment. What gives? Family?
|by Anonymous||reply 325||02/12/2019|
R324: you are forgetting Matt Mattox. I do not know if he was gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||02/12/2019|
Well at least one letter between Tyrone Power and J. Watson Webb isn't locked away in a vault.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||02/12/2019|
I think Matt Mattox was straight. His granddaughter (or maybe great granddaughter) is currently a chorus girl on Broadway in many shows. She's lovely!
|by Anonymous||reply 328||02/12/2019|
Everard Baths was well known for "lewd" behavior going back to the 1920's. Did young gays think they invented something?
|by Anonymous||reply 329||02/12/2019|
^ Even before then - that article has a bit about an anti-gay bust in 1919!
|by Anonymous||reply 330||02/12/2019|
Tyrone Power is said to have had an affair with Diana Barrymore's half brother Robin.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||02/13/2019|
R321: I will see your C.M. Hallard and raise you silent film star J. Walter Kerrigan, of the 'teens. His last big role was a western in 1925, during which he bitched about the heat, dust, and smell.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||02/13/2019|
[QUOTE]Rod Taylor? I can’t believe it. His second wife was Asian...so...
Ever noticed how many closeted white guys end up marrying Asian women ?
|by Anonymous||reply 333||02/13/2019|
Cesar Romero and Tyrone Power had a very long affair.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||02/13/2019|
While Tyrone and Cesar may have initially been fuck buddies in their youth, I think it's widely known among inner circles that through most of their adult lives they were BFFs who divided and conquered every handsome young stud on the 20th Century Fox lot.
Do you think either of them ever undressed young John Payne?
|by Anonymous||reply 335||02/13/2019|
More about J. Warren Kerrigan (and also his partner, who was an actor too)
|by Anonymous||reply 336||02/13/2019|
I was cruised by Jacques D'amboise about 20 years ago, on an island ferry boat off the coast of Maine, so we can check another one off R324's list.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||02/13/2019|
he was just inspecting your enjambement.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||02/14/2019|
Danny Kaye' s bf at the very beginning of his career was tap dancer Nick Long Jr., who appeared in Broadway Melody of 1936, tragically Long was killed in a car crash
|by Anonymous||reply 339||02/18/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 340||02/18/2019|
Tom Tryon! He was gorgeous when he was young.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||02/18/2019|
Just a couple of straight guys hanging out! No homo!
|by Anonymous||reply 342||02/19/2019|
r341, he sure had lost his looks by r342's photo. He looks worn out.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||02/19/2019|
Anyone know anything about Loren Tindall? He was "Beef" in Good News. I always thought he was cute. There's next to nothing about his personal life on the net.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||02/19/2019|
Another mystery man is Jimmy (sometimes Jimmie) Thompson. He was the uncredited singer in the "Beautiful Girls" fashion show number in "Singin' In The Rain", and featured in "Brigadoon", both Gene Kelly vehicles. He also appeared in small parts in two more MGM musicals, "Summer Stock" and "The Band Wagon". His IMDB entry has no biographical info, and there’s very little info anywhere else that I can find, except that he also worked with Kay Thompson on her stage shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||02/19/2019|
^ He was a cutie
|by Anonymous||reply 346||02/19/2019|
That’s what I thought, R346!
|by Anonymous||reply 347||02/20/2019|
There were some hot assed leading men back in the day.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||02/20/2019|
bumping for more
|by Anonymous||reply 349||02/23/2019|
Let's just say there's a reason why Rod La Rocque's screen name referenced his throbbing, turgid dick.
Sad that his wife (Vilma Banky) never got to enjoy his legendary man-meat, but she was of the Sapphic persuasion, so it all worked out splendidly for everyone involved.
|by Anonymous||reply 350||02/23/2019|
Best. Name. Ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||02/23/2019|
Leon Janney, who started out in the Our Gang series, always pinged for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||02/24/2019|
Did you know that Payne was 2 years older than Power ?
|by Anonymous||reply 353||02/24/2019|
Iconic photo of John Payne
|by Anonymous||reply 354||02/27/2019|
Any info on Gar Moore, who was married briefly to Nancy Walker? He always pinged to me
|by Anonymous||reply 355||03/02/2019|
That John Payne photo has to be one of the best ever taken of a man. Is that Hurrell?
Just because Matt Mattox, who I found the most attractive of the brothers, had children does not make him straight. He could have been but it's no guarantee. Think Anthony Perkins.
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|by Anonymous||reply 357||03/02/2019|
John Payne must have been one of the most photographed shirtless male stars of the pre-Henry Willson period. Perhaps because he was under contract to Fox like Betty Grable, he often posed for beefcake publicity photos not unlike her cheesecake versions.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||03/02/2019|
John Payne was straight but was very much into physical fitness and bodybuilding. And yes, R54, the photo is by Hurrell.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||03/02/2019|
R350 and it his real name! Among his films:
Wild, Wild Susan
Let Us Be Gay
|by Anonymous||reply 360||03/02/2019|
R345 Jimmie was Kay's son. And Marshall's brother.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||03/02/2019|
Old news, but: Lawford might have had a fling with Mineo while they were filming "Exodus"
|by Anonymous||reply 362||03/02/2019|
For me, blonde blue-eyed and quite cute, I have a thing for ethnic guys. Any movie I watch with Sabu turns me on and I would rip his loincloth off and deepthroat his purple cock without even asking permission.
I'm also in lust with Sal Mineo who just seem like someone who would just be fun to play around with and then go to a movie together. He did a film calles Tonka with a hot Dominican actor named Rafael Campos who is on a list of gay or bisexual actors but was married to Dinah Washington and had children from another marriage towards the end of his life. Raphael played the thug friend of James Khan's in Lady in a Cage. He looked short in stature, but something tells me that there was something massive inside.
Filipino actor Patrick Adiarte is also very hot, and I would be happy to pleasure him as well. if you think he's cute as a twink in The King and I, check him out in Flower Drum Song 5 years later and then the really bad cold classic Jon Goldfarb please come home. He later did the Brady Bunch episode where they go to Hawaii. There are also videos of him dancing on TV. He has an enthusiasm that is just delightful to watch.
I also recently discovered a Mexican actor (straight according to YouTube host by his grandson) named Pedro Gonzalez Gonzalez. He appeared on a Groucho Marx TV show and was so deliciously deadpan that I just wanted to reach into the screen and hug him. I saw him recently in a movie with the recently deceased Julie Adams called Wings of the hawk, and he was simply delectable.
If I had to choose from all of these hot ethnic guys, I think I would choose Sabu.I'd gladly remove all of those Jewels he was wearing in Black Narcissus and strip him down to his deliciously hot Indian body.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||03/02/2019|
Whew. Where are my smelling salts?
So are you a fan of young John Saxon (aka Carmine something)? Mario Alcalde?
Sabu has one of those pretty mouths that make his face look like a cock head. Sort of like Banderas.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||03/02/2019|
"I'd gladly remove all those jewels [Sabu] was wearing in Black Narcissus and strip him..."
Get in line, toots.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||03/02/2019|
r362, Maureen O'Hara claimed that Lawford and Richard Boone were caught at a male brothel in Australia while they were making a movie there
|by Anonymous||reply 366||03/02/2019|
She should talk. How about that article in Confidential exposing her fuck session with an usher in the balcony of the Burbank Rivoli?
|by Anonymous||reply 367||03/02/2019|
She said that wasn't true.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||03/03/2019|
Didn't she sue Confidential and won?
|by Anonymous||reply 369||03/03/2019|
Richard Boone sued her and won.
|by Anonymous||reply 370||03/03/2019|
But was Richard Boone gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 371||03/03/2019|
"Richard Boone sued her and won."
No, where did you get that?
"How about that article in Confidential exposing her fuck session with an usher in the balcony of the Burbank Rivoli?"
No, they claimed an usher saw her making out with a guy in a theater. The guy in question was not an usher.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||03/03/2019|
And it was the Pasadena Paramount.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||03/03/2019|
R369 Yes, O'Hara sued Confidential and won. She also got back at closeted director John Ford, who was alternately abusive and obsessed with her by outing him in her memoir:
From Maureen O'Hara's autobiography:
[quote]I went to Ford's office to show him the revised sketches for my wardrobe. My arms full of the sketches, I walked into his office without knocking and could hardly believe my eyes. Ford had his arms around another man and was kissing him. I was shocked and speechless. I quickly dropped the sketches on the floor, then knelt down to pick them up. I fumbled around slowly and kept my head down. I took my time so they could part and compose themselves. They were on opposite sides of the room in a flash. The gentleman Ford was with was one of the most famous leading men in the picture business. He addressed a few pleasantries to me, which were forced and awkward, then quickly left. Ford and I went on with our business. Not a word was said, and I played it out as if I hadn't seen a thing. Later, that actor approached me and asked, "Why didn't you tell me John Ford was homosexual?" I answered, "How could I tell you something I knew nothing about?"
|by Anonymous||reply 374||03/03/2019|
As to who might have been the actor Ford was caught snogging, we discussed this upthread @ R107 & R10.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||03/03/2019|
** R107 & R109
|by Anonymous||reply 376||03/03/2019|
R361, according to her Wiki page, Thompson didn't have any children. And Thompson wasn't a married name but a stage name, she was born Catherine Louise Fink
|by Anonymous||reply 377||03/03/2019|
I believe r361 was making a joke. A lame one.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||03/03/2019|
Do you think Howard Hughes cast him for his exceptional acting skills?
|by Anonymous||reply 379||03/03/2019|
Ironic that the boy next door was a gay man.
|by Anonymous||reply 380||03/03/2019|
[quote]r216 Ross Alexander ... another rumored homosexual who tragically ended his life with a shotgun at the age of 29.
oh, how sad : (
|by Anonymous||reply 381||03/03/2019|
R381, and Ronald Reagan replaced him.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||03/03/2019|
So this famous leading man was a friend and she did not want to out him. And it seems she already knew he was gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||03/04/2019|
Is it idle speculation that Drake became an alcoholic out of unrequited love for Lawford? Lawford was very handsome but I'd choose Drake. And who was that man Garland found in bed with Vincente. Guess we'll never know. I'd like to think it was Gene.
Interesting that Laurents writes in his book that there were rumors about Kelly. If anybody knew it was Laurents. If he had directly outed him the widow Kelly who has made a lucrative career out of carrying the flame of her dead husband would have garroted him.
|by Anonymous||reply 384||03/04/2019|
Laurents was also a vicious gossip who wasn't above inventing rumors. So who knows?
|by Anonymous||reply 385||03/04/2019|
Yes, he could be a veritable fishwife. But a dynamo in the sack.
|by Anonymous||reply 386||03/04/2019|
He wasn't even all that good looking but he seems to have known everybody and been invited everywhere. And the really only outstanding work of his that I know of is the book of Gypsy. Or at least has lasted as quality writing. I know people love TWWW and Turning Point but they are just high class soaps to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 387||03/04/2019|
He was decent looking as a young man. I think it's true that he knew a lot of people and was very social, although that may have been primarily professional. I have the impression that even his friends disliked him. By the time he was an old man, many long-time friends had basically turned away from him. Mary Rodgers and Sondheim are examples of loyal friends who just couldn't deal with him any more.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||03/04/2019|
"Bunkum"? It's bumkus. Some of you are too young to know these words.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||03/04/2019|
I think it is bunkum.
You may be thinking of bupkis.
|by Anonymous||reply 390||03/04/2019|
r389 's post is pure bunkum.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||03/04/2019|
I admit I fell in love with Sabu when I was around 4.
|by Anonymous||reply 392||03/04/2019|
I thought Friend of Dorothy meant friend of Judy Garland, am I right?
|by Anonymous||reply 393||03/04/2019|
I have never ever heard of the word Bunkum. I am thinking of the word bupkus.
|by Anonymous||reply 394||03/04/2019|
Bunkum is mid-century "nonsense." Bupkis= nothin'
They're really not interchangeable.
|by Anonymous||reply 395||03/04/2019|
Bunkum got shortened eventually to bunk.
Dictionary result for bunk /bəNGk/ nouninformal noun: bunk
nonsense. "anyone with a brain cell would never believe such bunk" synonyms:tnonsense, rubbish, balderdash, gibberish, claptrap, blarney, guff, blather, blether;
"that idea is just sheer bunk"
Origin: early 20th century: abbreviation of bunkum.
|by Anonymous||reply 396||03/04/2019|
The BWW chatroom reports of Glenda's LEAR are truly horrifying. Apparently, she enters in a man's black suit and looks like Charlie Chaplin.
|by Anonymous||reply 397||03/05/2019|
OOps. ^^^^That was intended for one of the Theatre threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 398||03/05/2019|
It's the punchline of a joke about summer camp: bunk cum
|by Anonymous||reply 399||03/05/2019|
That's very droll, r399.
|by Anonymous||reply 400||03/05/2019|
But Old Man River, he just keeps drollin' along...
|by Anonymous||reply 401||03/05/2019|
Van Johnson and Keenan Wynn were apparently "best of friends". Even Keenan's father, character actor Ed Wynn, suspected they might be fucking.
Van isn't my type but Keenan was kind of hot. Reminds me of a cross between Tom Hanks and vintage Colt model Steve Kelso.
|by Anonymous||reply 402||03/05/2019|
One of the hottest gay rumors I've ever heard is that Montgomery Clift and character actor John Ireland were supposedly involved in a torrid affair on the set of "Red River".
John Ireland was HAF and reportedly had one of the biggest cocks in Hollywood. I think he's much sexier than Clift.
|by Anonymous||reply 403||03/05/2019|
R4 Flynn's weakness was high school girls and exotics. If he experimented a bit with homo sex it was early on and never took. He liked brunettes. He was crazy about Olivia de Havilland and wanted to marry her but she was too aware of his problems and fended him off.
|by Anonymous||reply 404||03/05/2019|
John Ireland. Big dick face and big dick bulge.
|by Anonymous||reply 405||03/05/2019|
Or [R402] you could opt for the steampunk daddy version.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||03/05/2019|
More hung Ireland
|by Anonymous||reply 407||03/05/2019|
Johnny Ireland was constantly fucking around with Joan Crawford in her dressing room when we made Queen Bee.
|by Anonymous||reply 408||03/06/2019|
I wonder if hung daddy Ireland was really naked in this scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||03/07/2019|
Yow. Well that was a direct ripoff of the Psycho shower scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 410||03/08/2019|
The derivative of the word "bunkum" comes from the North Carolina county of Buncombe (Asheville is the seat).
In the early 19th century, a congressman from the area would make long-winded, empty-headed speeches on Capitol Hill, using the phrase "I'm speaking for the people of Buncombe." His critics picked up the word to mock him, saying his speeches were full of buncombe, aka bunkum. It caught on because most politicians were and are full of bunkum.
|by Anonymous||reply 411||03/08/2019|
1950s beefcake actor Keith Andes left one his wives to move in with well-know bisexual Tony Curtis briefly in the 60s.
You may remember Andes as Lucille Ball's co-star in "Wildcat" on Broadway, and as the husband of Glynis Johns in her one-season sitcom in the 60s. He also played opposite of Marilyn Monroe in her early success Clash by Night.
Later, he became a personal favorite of CBS president James Aubrey, which set Hollywood tongues a'wagging in the early 60s. He got a CBS series out of it, but it only lasted one season.
|by Anonymous||reply 412||03/08/2019|
Not often we get an authentic nude of a Golden Age Hollywood actor with such clarity----even if it is a C-lister like Keith Andes.
Quite nice dick.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||03/08/2019|
Since when is Tony Curtis a well known bisexual?
|by Anonymous||reply 414||03/08/2019|
Tony acknowledged sleeping with guys in his younger days
|by Anonymous||reply 415||03/08/2019|
Skip Homeier was the poor man's Keith Andes.
|by Anonymous||reply 416||03/08/2019|
R415 He did?! Boy I missed that.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||03/09/2019|
I always liked Skip Homeier
|by Anonymous||reply 418||03/09/2019|
I like Christian Homeier as well, who is, reportedly, related.
|by Anonymous||reply 419||03/09/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 420||03/09/2019|
Agreed, R364, Mario Alcalde was so handsome — always a treat to see in TV reruns. Died young in the early 1970s — wonder what happened there?
|by Anonymous||reply 421||03/10/2019|
Percy Helton pinged to high heaven.
See also, John Fiedler
|by Anonymous||reply 422||03/10/2019|
R421 nice to meet another Mario fan. IIRC, he also had a very nice voice. Periodically I try and find a "cause of death" for him. Zero. He had a small part as a cop in Dead Ringer.
|by Anonymous||reply 423||03/10/2019|
Edmund Gwenn of "Miracle On 34th St" fame was, of course, a homosexual but no one cares to discuss it because, let's face it, if an actor isn't handsome and fuckable---WHO CARES!
|by Anonymous||reply 424||03/10/2019|
R424 But he's a ho ho ho! We can still giggle behind our hands that Santa's gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 425||03/10/2019|
After seeing "The Incredible Shrinking Man" a while ago it didn't surprise me in the slightest when I checked Grant Williams' bio to discover that he was a lifelong "confirmed bachelor".
Very handsome and classic looking guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||03/10/2019|
Any truth to the rumor that Cagney once cornered and kissed a young Audy Murphy? I read it on a gossip blog many years ago and tried to find out any truth to it that I could. I just can't believe my Jimmy being an aggressive, red-headed, little daddy bear!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 427||03/10/2019|
[quote]Any truth to the rumor that Cagney once cornered and kissed a young Audy Murphy?
There's also the rumor I read a while back about Cagney giving Nick Adams oral on the set of Mr. Roberts.
|by Anonymous||reply 428||03/10/2019|
Cagney was married to the same woman for his career, no natural born kids (but they adopted a boy and a girl). Later in life, both kids were estranged from Cagney - wonder why? As a dancer with a tight ass, Cagney was probably no stranger to "the life".
|by Anonymous||reply 429||03/10/2019|
Well, he never fucked me!
|by Anonymous||reply 430||03/10/2019|
Cagney took a "distinct liking" to young actor Don Dubbins and cast him in a couple movies.....is there a story there?
|by Anonymous||reply 431||03/10/2019|
Cagney started out as a drag dancer.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||03/10/2019|
R428, when Cagney was working on White Heat, he had a 3 way with Steve Cochran and Eddie O'Brien. Guess who was Lucky Pierre?
|by Anonymous||reply 433||03/11/2019|
In one of the Coward biographies the author says that Coward claimed to have slept with Cagney. In those pre code talkies Cagney is very cute. He was also friends with Lincoln Kirstein. That certainly widened my eyes.
|by Anonymous||reply 434||03/11/2019|
They would have made an, um, interesting couple.....
|by Anonymous||reply 435||03/11/2019|
Maybe Audie gave Cagney this look before James sprung into unbridled lust mode.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||03/11/2019|
R429, check out Grant Williams in "The Monolith Monsters" if you ever get a chance. It's your typical '50s SciFi nonsense, but Grant looked amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||03/11/2019|
Any rumors about Jimmy Cagney and Horst Bucholz when they made 1 2 3 ?
|by Anonymous||reply 438||03/11/2019|
Supposedly Cagney loathed Buchholz and refused to even see the film because he never wanted to see Horst again. Were his old man advances spurned?
|by Anonymous||reply 439||03/11/2019|
Probably, r439. Wasn't Horst openly gay at that time?
|by Anonymous||reply 440||03/11/2019|
I don't know about that as he had children but he did admit at some point that he had bisexual experiences. I certainly found him very cute when I was a boy and saw Fanny on TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 441||03/11/2019|
What caused Horst's untimely death?
|by Anonymous||reply 442||03/11/2019|
R364, I worked in the Film/Programming Department at a syndicated TV station in Chicago for several years after college from the mid-80s to the mid-90s — great gig for a lifetime movie buff like me, as we had to oversee all the on-air programming. Tons of movies and TV shows from the 50s to the 90s, and this was where I first noticed Mario Alcalde. He seemed to guest on every show up to the early 70s, and his masculine presence was always a welcome sight. Had no idea until many years later that he’d passed away relatively young in the early 70s.
|by Anonymous||reply 443||03/11/2019|
R439 everyone loathed Buchholz, including Bette Davis, who worked with him in The Empty Canvas. Seems to have been loathable.
|by Anonymous||reply 444||03/11/2019|
Any Montgomery Clift fans here? The first time I watched From Here to Eternity I went in thinking it was a Burt Lancaster-Deborah Kerr movie but Clift stole the show right out from under them. HBO was supposed to be doing a biopic about him but they must have given up. I haven't read any updates on filming in over a year.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||03/11/2019|
I read Leslie Caron's book awhile ago and I don't remember her having any opinion on Buccholz. The two of them make a beautiful couple in Fanny. And she has no qualms about making Peter Hall look bad. I was surprised she was at his memorial.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||03/11/2019|
I don't know why but I always had the impression that Horst Buchholz died young. Maybe because I thought his biggest films were over before he turned 35.
So I looked him up just now and Wiki says he lived to be 69 and died in 2003. And it also says that he came out as bi in a German magazine called Bunte. And his son Christopher made a documentary about Horst that also talked about his bisexuality.
|by Anonymous||reply 447||03/11/2019|
Everyone is very funny in Billy Wilder’s much underrated “One Two Three!”
Probably my favorite comedy. I can quote dozens of lines from it.
|by Anonymous||reply 448||03/11/2019|
I liked 'Kiss Me Stupid' very much when I saw it at FF. I was very surprised as it is so notorious. And his career never really recovered from its fallout.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||03/11/2019|
More about Cagney!
|by Anonymous||reply 450||03/11/2019|
R449. It was a revelation. Just hilarious and very sweet. Novak is delightful. Walston replaced Sellers and was great. Imagine all the fuss at the time! But I don't think it would have hurt Wilder's career all that much.
Have you noticed how many of Wilder's films have the theme of masquerade?
|by Anonymous||reply 451||03/11/2019|
The sweetness was very surprising. As it was genuine and Wilder was so cynical and it often came through even when he was trying to be sentimental.
|by Anonymous||reply 452||03/11/2019|
When he was cast as Bert Jefferson opposite Bette Davis in THE MAN WHO CAME TO DINNER, Warner Brothers promoted the heck out of him as a top star of tomorrow.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||03/11/2019|
He was in so many movies, often in small but important roles. Likely best known to DLers for having played Kevin Gilmore in VALLEY OF THE DOLLS.
|by Anonymous||reply 454||03/11/2019|
Williams H. Daniels
Best remembered for playing Garland's brother 'Lon' in MEET ME IN ST LOUIS. Died at the age of 52 in 1973.
|by Anonymous||reply 455||03/11/2019|
His career was just starting and he'd only done four movies when he was killed in a 1955 plane crash. He was 25.
|by Anonymous||reply 456||03/11/2019|
Thomas Beck was under contract to Fox. He appeared in a handful of the MR. MOTO (Peter Lorre) movies, four CHARLIE CHAN flicks, was the priest in the 1937 Shirley Temple film HEIDI and about 20 other films.
|by Anonymous||reply 457||03/11/2019|
First wife was the super dykey Marion duPont. Between films, he loved Cary Grant until he died in early 1987, just a little over 3 months after Cary Grant.
|by Anonymous||reply 458||03/11/2019|
Asther who was born in Denmark was a pretty big film star in the 1920s. By the early 30s his star was fading. Married once for less than 2 years, his other straight romance was with Great Garbo so take it for what its worth.
|by Anonymous||reply 459||03/11/2019|
What was the name of the tall, dark and handsome 20th Century Fox contract hottie who played a minor role in Niagara opposite MM as her secret lover and also partnered Susan Hayward in the title number dance in With a Song in My Heart? He had a very generic forgetful name but sizzling looks.
He seemed like someone who was cast purely for his looks so I wonder if he benefited a lot from Fox's casting couch?
|by Anonymous||reply 460||03/11/2019|
R460, that was Richard Allan. I just read his bio at IMDB and thought it was kind of sad, really. He was good looking and talented, and should really have had a big career, but somehow it never took off and he eventually left show business.
|by Anonymous||reply 461||03/11/2019|
R36, Peter Arne sounds like a real bottom feeder...embezzling Queen. I’ve known a couple of shady sissies like him from a dive bar in Philadelphia called The Post. Drunks, hustlers and faded queens reminiscing about the good old days. I knew a couple of guys who did time for embezzlement, stealing money from older people with lots of money. Lotta queens like that who resort to stealing money to live the high life.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||03/11/2019|
"Married once for less than 2 years, his other straight romance was with Great Garbo so take it for what its worth."
Was that a studio created "romance" like Garbo's "romance" with Ramon Novarro?
"Lotta queens like that who resort to stealing money to live the high life."
Maybe, but so do a lot of straights
|by Anonymous||reply 463||03/11/2019|
Wasn’t Silent film actor George O’Brien bi/gay? He was good friends with John Ford. Allegedly, John Ford was such good friends with the magnificent looking Woody Strode that Woody nursed him during his final days when he was bedridden.
|by Anonymous||reply 464||03/12/2019|
John Ford was one ugly fuck
|by Anonymous||reply 465||03/12/2019|
I wonder what guys John Ford nailed....
|by Anonymous||reply 466||03/12/2019|
R459, there's a story that once, when Asther kissed Garbo rather roughly in a scene, she said to him, " I'm not one of your sailors." He was good opposite Stanwyck in General Yen.
Any "evidence" for Richard Travis or Charles Drake? Drake has a small part in Now Viyager, in the flashback on the ship, where he kisses young Charlotte and gets in trouble.
|by Anonymous||reply 467||03/12/2019|
Richard Travis was handsome
|by Anonymous||reply 468||03/12/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 469||03/13/2019|
Garbo was funny. Cruel but funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 470||03/13/2019|
Any Clifton Webb dirt? I heard he used to "audition" young, cute actors
|by Anonymous||reply 471||03/15/2019|
Darwin said that Garbo refused to kiss Asther because she didn't know where his mouth had been last night. She should talk.
|by Anonymous||reply 472||03/15/2019|
bump for more gossip
|by Anonymous||reply 473||Last Tuesday at 3:45 AM|
R20, I got it on with George Maharis at a notorious gay sex club in Manhattan, the Mineshaft. He had a big cock and was an alpha. I'm sure hundreds of others did, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 474||Last Tuesday at 3:52 AM|
^ There are like a dozen dataloungers who have claimed to have gotten it on with Maharis over the years. I don't doubt you at all, I'm sure he got around.
|by Anonymous||reply 475||Last Tuesday at 3:54 AM|
R471 rumors that Robert Mitchum in his early days was "sponsored " by Webb.
R472 a flash from always-reliable Darwin?
|by Anonymous||reply 476||Last Tuesday at 4:26 AM|
R474 who did what to whom?
Years ago I heard that he liked to fuck on his motorcycle (presumably when it was not in motion).
The hepatitis that took him off Rte 66 was supposedly contracted when he had scenes in a river, but I've wondered...
Incredibly hot guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 477||Last Tuesday at 5:07 AM|
R477 I blew him, for sure. He may have fucked me, but it's been a lot off years (approx. 1980).
|by Anonymous||reply 478||Last Tuesday at 6:35 AM|
Well it's good you're both still with us.
|by Anonymous||reply 479||Last Tuesday at 6:39 AM|
Hats off to the eldergays who got a piece Maharis...
|by Anonymous||reply 480||Last Tuesday at 12:23 PM|
George is 90 now - is he in good health?
|by Anonymous||reply 481||Last Wednesday at 2:20 AM|
Does anyone really know if he's worn a hairpiece for decades? He was in the first production of Zoo Story, IIRC. Any dish on him and Albee?
|by Anonymous||reply 482||Last Wednesday at 4:34 AM|
Clifton Webb was "friends" with Robert Wagner
|by Anonymous||reply 483||Last Wednesday at 10:48 PM|
R483 No doubt. What's the real story on RJ The Brylcreem Kid?
|by Anonymous||reply 484||Yesterday at 12:21 PM|