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Elder Dataloungers Please tell me all about Hollywood's golden era star Rhonda Fleming

Often referred to in the past as the Queen of technicolor because of her colourful vivid red hair. She is one of the few stars from this era who is still with us (although I am not sure about her state of health currently) How big a star name was she? Was she tainted by any scandal? How was her career in film viewed? Anything and everything about this silver screen actress please who was absolutely gorgeous in her heyday. More beautiful than Rita Hayworth in my opinion. She's not discussed much on here but she was not an insignificant part of Hollywood's history.

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by Anonymousreply 95October 27, 2018 6:15 AM

A better picture link

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by Anonymousreply 1October 22, 2018 6:18 PM

Isn’t that Jeanne Crain at R1?

by Anonymousreply 2October 22, 2018 6:20 PM

I had no idea she even existed until I was watching an episode of M*A*S*H* with my great aunt. It was the one where they all end up dying their hair red, for some reason, and Hawkeye sees himself in a mirror and says, "Eat your heart out, Rhonda Fleming." I had to ask my great aunt about her and while I don't remember most of what she answered, I do remember Auntie D saying "starlet" with a bit of a sneer.

by Anonymousreply 3October 22, 2018 6:35 PM

No [R2]!!

by Anonymousreply 4October 22, 2018 7:24 PM

The Poor Man's Maureen O'Hara.

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by Anonymousreply 5October 22, 2018 8:19 PM

Fuck her.

by Anonymousreply 6October 22, 2018 8:42 PM

Harsh [R5]

by Anonymousreply 7October 22, 2018 10:08 PM

The poor man's Arlene Dahl, and visa-versa.

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by Anonymousreply 8October 22, 2018 11:09 PM

Rhonda Fleming was a popular star in the '40s and '50s, but most of her leading lady roles were in B pictures, while her few A pictures had her in character actress/supporting player roles.

She married six times, four ending in divorce, two in widowhood.

by Anonymousreply 9October 22, 2018 11:25 PM

That's a beautiful picture [R8] thanks for the detail [R9] I am surprised she has divorced so many times as I thought I heard that she was a Christian .

by Anonymousreply 10October 23, 2018 1:27 AM

[R5] I wonder why she wasn't as big a star as Maureen O'Hara? She certainly has the looks to be a list so what kept her pegged as a b lister? Was she a poor actress?

by Anonymousreply 11October 24, 2018 1:30 AM

Rhonda Fleming got pegged as a B Star and stayed there. I'm familiar with her name but not sure if I've ever seen any of her movies.

by Anonymousreply 12October 24, 2018 1:43 AM
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by Anonymousreply 13October 24, 2018 1:46 AM

Rhonda was born in Hollywood, California so she was destined to be a movie star.

She is now 95.

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by Anonymousreply 14October 24, 2018 1:47 AM

Cheers [R13] That is a decent performance by Rhonda in that clip .

by Anonymousreply 15October 24, 2018 1:48 AM

Rhonda's Wiki.....

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by Anonymousreply 16October 24, 2018 1:49 AM

I figured most people saw her in "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" since that's shown on TV all the time.

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by Anonymousreply 17October 24, 2018 1:51 AM

Liked her with studly Guy Madison in Bullwhip.

by Anonymousreply 18October 24, 2018 1:56 AM

In later years Rhonda was featured in a dubious Get Smart movie, The Nude Bomb, which tells you that she had pretty much come to the end of her film career.

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by Anonymousreply 19October 24, 2018 1:57 AM

I will definitely have to check that out [R18] guy Madison is one damned gorgeous guy!

by Anonymousreply 20October 24, 2018 2:05 AM

R20 Guy Madison In Bullwhip with the back of Rhonda's head.

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by Anonymousreply 21October 24, 2018 2:10 AM

Lee Meriwether was the poor man's Rhonda Fleming.

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by Anonymousreply 22October 24, 2018 2:11 AM

Thanks [R21] Guy always lights up the screen for me so glad Rhonda got to work with him .

by Anonymousreply 23October 24, 2018 2:13 AM

The gorgeous Guy Madison.

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by Anonymousreply 24October 24, 2018 2:17 AM

She appeared in a cameo in "Won Ton Ton, the Dog That Saved Hollywood" as Rhoda Flaming.

by Anonymousreply 25October 24, 2018 2:18 AM

Maureen O'Hara was the one dubbed "The Queen of Technicolor."

by Anonymousreply 26October 24, 2018 2:18 AM

I remember her doing a lot of episodic tv in the 60s and 70s. I'm surprised she never wound up on "Murder She Wrote". She seems made for "not dead yet" tv spots.

She had 5 husbands and the last one died last year.

by Anonymousreply 27October 24, 2018 2:19 AM

Are you sure [R26]?

by Anonymousreply 28October 24, 2018 2:20 AM

They called Lucille "Technicolor Tessie".

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by Anonymousreply 29October 24, 2018 1:04 PM

I think Guy had a shirtless scene in Bullwhip. Lucky Rhonda!

by Anonymousreply 30October 24, 2018 9:48 PM

Fab picture [R29]

by Anonymousreply 31October 24, 2018 10:17 PM

She smeared her lipstick above the lip line.

Very unattractive (Marlene did the same).

by Anonymousreply 32October 24, 2018 10:21 PM

The poor man's Virginia Mayo.

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by Anonymousreply 33October 24, 2018 10:28 PM

^ I was about to say the same thing. But, frankly, I think Dahl Mayo and Fleming were all interchangeable B-grade stars.

by Anonymousreply 34October 24, 2018 10:35 PM

Dear R11. This woman was not an 'actress'. She was a commodity who, I suspect, was well-acquainted with the Casting Couch.

by Anonymousreply 35October 24, 2018 10:39 PM

"Montez! QUEEN OF TECHNICOLOR!"

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by Anonymousreply 36October 24, 2018 10:44 PM

Mayo had lots of co-starring roles in A-list films with people like Bob Hope and Danny Kaye. She had a strong supporting role in The Best Years of Our Lives, for which she won much praise. In the late 1940s she was Warner Bros. top grossing female star. As mentioned above, Fleming rarely starred in anything but B films.

by Anonymousreply 37October 24, 2018 10:51 PM

[quote] But, frankly, I think Dahl Mayo and Fleming were all interchangeable B-grade stars.

All interchangeable looks-wise, but Mayo was more A-list, or at least border line A-list.

by Anonymousreply 38October 24, 2018 10:51 PM

Mayo appeared in one A-list film when William Wyler chose her to play a prostitute.

by Anonymousreply 39October 24, 2018 11:00 PM

All the Hope and Kaye films of the 40s and 50s were major productions from major studios. They were considered A productions. Her other co-stars included Cagney, Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Doris Day, Rex Harrison, Paul Newman, Pier Angeli, Alan Ladd, George Sanders, etc., etc., etc. A-list co-stars in A= (snf B-) list films. People have pretty well forgotten how big she was at that time.

I'm not saying she was a superstar but she she was much more than just another Queen of the B's.

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by Anonymousreply 40October 24, 2018 11:18 PM

^ A-list co-stars in A- and B-list films.

by Anonymousreply 41October 24, 2018 11:20 PM

For my 30th birthday, my partner took me to see Pony Express when it came out in 1953. I loved this film. My partner and I just rented this off Comcast not too long ago. She retired many years ago, OP.

by Anonymousreply 42October 24, 2018 11:28 PM

She wipes back to front and smeared her feces in my trailer!

by Anonymousreply 43October 24, 2018 11:34 PM

How very vulgar, Virginia!

by Anonymousreply 44October 24, 2018 11:38 PM

She married Ted Mann of Mann Theaters.

by Anonymousreply 45October 24, 2018 11:48 PM

I saw Pony Express with my best boyhood friend when I was 10. We were thrilled at Rhonda’s nasty shower scene. We both swore we saw her nipples, which we thought somehow slipped by the censors and the Catholic Ledgue of Decency .

by Anonymousreply 46October 25, 2018 12:11 AM

If not for her vaginal odor, she would have been a much bigger star.

by Anonymousreply 47October 25, 2018 12:18 AM

R2, yes, that broad at R1 is Crain. Her Hancock is on the pic, ffs.

Rhonda and Arlene played sisters in the color noir "Slightly Scarlet," Arlene the psycho one.

Rhonda's first role was as a nympho (term of the time) in "Spellbound. " She's nasty to Dr. Ingrid.

by Anonymousreply 48October 25, 2018 12:22 AM

R32 they ALL did that in the 50s. Invented by a major misogynist.

Rhonda was okay in "Cry Danger," but generally was rather pallid.

by Anonymousreply 49October 25, 2018 12:50 AM

I loved Virginia Mayo. Interesting tidbit: Her character cheated on James Cagney in "White Heat" and Dana Andrews in "The Best Years Of Our Lives". Both times she did it with Steve Cochran. (If you saw Steve, you wouldn't blame her!)

by Anonymousreply 50October 25, 2018 12:56 AM

I don't think that's Jeanne Crain in the OP.

Jeanne was nondescript, with tiny breasts and added very little to any movie she was in.

by Anonymousreply 51October 25, 2018 12:59 AM

Rhonda & Arlene

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by Anonymousreply 52October 25, 2018 1:03 AM

It always comes down to FOLLIES, r50....

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by Anonymousreply 53October 25, 2018 1:12 AM

[quote]The poor man's Virginia Mayo.

Virginia Miracle Whip is the poor man's Virginia Mayo.

by Anonymousreply 54October 25, 2018 1:13 AM

I think a tag line on one of her movie posters was "Hold the Mayo!"

by Anonymousreply 55October 25, 2018 1:16 AM

Bette knew she was too old for Rosa Moline and thought the part should have gone to Virginia Mayo. Wonder what Albee would have ended up with.

by Anonymousreply 56October 25, 2018 1:21 AM

[quote] Virginia Miracle Whip is the poor man's Virginia Mayo.

And trust me, you never want to come across Vagina Miracle Whip.

by Anonymousreply 57October 25, 2018 11:35 AM

How about Vagina Mayo?

by Anonymousreply 58October 25, 2018 2:07 PM

Snatch like a bear trap. It sucked the gold plating off down to the shoulders on my second Academy Award.

by Anonymousreply 59October 25, 2018 2:15 PM

Do we know anything about her politics?

by Anonymousreply 60October 25, 2018 2:19 PM

She has an actor son named Kent Lane. Very pretty in his youth.

by Anonymousreply 61October 25, 2018 2:39 PM

Ronald Reagan was preparing to propose to Rhonda until Nancy informed him that she was pregnant.

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by Anonymousreply 62October 25, 2018 2:51 PM

Virginia Mayo resembled the Gabor sisters.

by Anonymousreply 63October 25, 2018 2:53 PM

R62, how did Nancy know that Rhonda was pregnant? Was it Ronnie's? "Rhonda Reagan" has a nice ring...

by Anonymousreply 64October 25, 2018 3:07 PM

Wow [R62] I've not heard that before. A revelation.

by Anonymousreply 65October 25, 2018 3:07 PM

Near the end, her lady parts were not that fresh..

by Anonymousreply 66October 25, 2018 3:09 PM

Rhonda was a big girl. Ronnie's got his hands full in that pic.

by Anonymousreply 67October 25, 2018 3:18 PM

[quote]How about Vagina Mayo?

It goes great on a lady ham sandwich.

by Anonymousreply 68October 25, 2018 4:35 PM

Does she still manage to get out and about at film events etc?

by Anonymousreply 69October 25, 2018 4:37 PM

She had a gay son named Rodney Flaming.

by Anonymousreply 70October 25, 2018 5:48 PM

Wow, that Nancy was a slut.

by Anonymousreply 71October 25, 2018 5:59 PM

I'm happy to say.

by Anonymousreply 72October 25, 2018 6:00 PM

R60 She's a right wing wackjob if ever there was one.

She was doing pro Pat Robertson commercials for the 700 Club/religious right in the 80's that celebrated his takeover of the repub party to every building he ever opened (his university, the ACLJ law center, the acting school that was supposed to take back Hollywood from the left, etc.).

She was one of the few celebs that wasn't hiding her affiliation with the far fright in the 80's. She never distanced herself when the 700 Club was bashing LGBTs, AIDS patients, feminists, the ACLU,National Endowment For The Arts, racial minorities, etc.

When Falwell & Robertson blamed a bunch of left wing groups for 9/11, 78 year old Rhonda never distanced herself from any of them which should tell you all you need to know about her politics. Old Rhonda must love Trumpy if she is still coherent at her age.

I bet when she croaks, the religious right groups will get some $$$ from the old bigot.

R9 Married six times? LOL!!! Hey Rhonda, don't you remember that marriage is a sacred institution between one woman and one man? Just another hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 73October 25, 2018 6:18 PM

Her wiki page said that she supported MANDATORY school prayer & was outraged over the '62 & '63

S. Court decisions striking it down.

That's another extreme example of her inconsiderate steamroller politics.

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by Anonymousreply 74October 25, 2018 6:30 PM

I always thought she had a priggish tight-assed manner. Good as the bitchy sister in Home Before Dark, with great Jean Simmons.

by Anonymousreply 75October 25, 2018 7:35 PM

"Biological, legitimate heirs inherit titles and crowns."

As I said above, even if George marries a man and they have children with the aid of a surrogate, that child would actually be the offspring of the monarch and an egg donor to whom he isn't married, not the monarch and his husband.

So yes, a gay heir would be strongly encouraged to marry a woman and impregnate her somehow, and if he marries a man then their children wouldn't be considered legitimate heirs. There are limits to the heteronormative lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 76October 25, 2018 7:42 PM

I dont think Rhonda would approve of gayling George.

by Anonymousreply 77October 25, 2018 7:58 PM

Love these juxtapositions. Like the surrealist game Exquisite Corpse.

by Anonymousreply 78October 25, 2018 8:10 PM

Reagan was dating both Rhonda and Nancy, but then Nancy told him she was knocked up with what turned out to be Patti.

by Anonymousreply 79October 25, 2018 9:15 PM

I'm sorry , all you Elder Dataloungers have convinced me I shouldn't waste my time on this woman.

by Anonymousreply 80October 26, 2018 12:55 AM

She supported Pat Robertson for President in 1988 along with bluegrass artist Ricky Skaggs.

Pat Robertson's political connections & later endorsement of Trump helped propel him to where he is today.

Rhonda's fingerprints are all over every little thing Donny boy's small hands touch.

by Anonymousreply 81October 26, 2018 3:02 AM

Rhonda is stunning at 36:30 on this tribute to Bob Hope on Dinah!.

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by Anonymousreply 82October 26, 2018 11:37 AM

Another hunk she co-starred with was the gorgeous William Lundigan in Inferno.

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by Anonymousreply 83October 26, 2018 11:56 AM

That's disappointing to learn [R81]

by Anonymousreply 84October 26, 2018 3:14 PM

R83, it also has lefty Robert Ryan and hot daddy DL fave Carl Betz.

by Anonymousreply 85October 26, 2018 8:50 PM

Rhonda in 2010, most recent photo found.

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by Anonymousreply 86October 26, 2018 11:26 PM

Thanks [R86] If that is the most recent 2010 then perhaps she is in very fragile poor health as older stars have been photographed more recently. She sadly will likely start to attract the gaze of those who run dead pools and deathlists soon...

by Anonymousreply 87October 27, 2018 12:38 AM

There are more recent pics. This is in 2013.

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by Anonymousreply 88October 27, 2018 12:49 AM

Thank you [R88] although I still suspect she will increasingly feature on deathlists and pools including on here just as many older Hollywood stars do such as Doris Day ,Angela Lansbury. Kirk Douglas ,Olivia De Havilland ,Robert Wagner etc She could of course live to well past 100 and end up like Olivia were she features on these lists for the best part of a decade!

by Anonymousreply 89October 27, 2018 12:53 AM

Fairly recently she has been an Ambassador for Christ.

by Anonymousreply 90October 27, 2018 12:54 AM

To the extent anyone remembers Virginia Mayo, it's as a "B" movie queen. She never really carried her As (or even Bs) in the same way as, say, Bette Davis. I completely forgot she was in "Best years of our lives" which is really about the male stars and maybe Myrna Loy, who was a much more compelling actress, generally, even in thankless maternal roles like this. I also forgot about White Heat which is really about Cagney and the weird Freudian monologue at the end. Mayo working at Warners probably doesn't help how she was remembered--she was a forgettable performer at the most formulaic studio of the truly large majors.

by Anonymousreply 91October 27, 2018 1:16 AM

"Warners...formulaic"

Them's fighting words, mister/ms!

by Anonymousreply 92October 27, 2018 2:35 AM

Wasn't Mayo in some of those Danny Kaye musicals Goldwyn made in the 1950s?

by Anonymousreply 93October 27, 2018 2:46 AM

Rhonda Fleming costarred with John Payne in some B western and when he slugged her, she uttered the immortal line "Big girls don't cry!" thereby inspiring The 4 Seasons' second huge hit.

Or so the legend is told in Jersey Boys.

by Anonymousreply 94October 27, 2018 2:49 AM

In Flaxy Martin,, VM was a good amoral villain, and, for a change, Zachary Scott was a good guy.

by Anonymousreply 95October 27, 2018 6:15 AM
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