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The Magicians Season 4

The Magicians Season 4 Release Date, Sneak Peek, and More

by Anonymousreply 182Yesterday at 4:15 AM

The Magicians Season 4 Sneak Peek

by Anonymousreply 110/14/2018

'The Magicians' Spoilers: Season 4 Cast Q&A

by Anonymousreply 210/14/2018

The Magicians season 4 will premiere on Wednesday, January 23 at 9/8c on SYFY, winter being familiar territory for the series.

by Anonymousreply 310/14/2018

The Magicians Is Coming to Comics Next Year

by Anonymousreply 410/14/2018

Is this the show with the edgy "fluid" and bisexual characters but no gay male characters?

by Anonymousreply 510/14/2018

R5 Yes

by Anonymousreply 610/14/2018

THE MAGICIANS Season 4 Official Trailer (HD) Syfy Fantasy Series

by Anonymousreply 710/27/2018

Elliot is gay. He only has sex with his wife out of royal duty.

It’s a great show.

by Anonymousreply 810/27/2018

R8 he discovered he was bi after fucking his wife.

I didn't really like season three - the whole turning off magic thing was a bit silly.

by Anonymousreply 910/27/2018

R9 I think he enjoyed the sex but was still totally into guys, he even added a husband to their marriage because it’s dick he wants. And S3 shows he’s totally in love with Q. If anything Q is the bi one on the show

I think S4 will be fun, seeing them rediscover who they are.

by Anonymousreply 1010/27/2018

Seeing Jason Ralph at the Golden Globes (w/ girlfriend Rachel Brosnahan) reminded me that "The Magicians" returns soon -- glad to see the DL is already on it!

by Anonymousreply 1101/06/2019

May we presume Quentin's annoying, whiny best friend won't get killed off? At least she isn't bring every scene down with her rape trauma anymore.

by Anonymousreply 1201/06/2019

I know I am in the minority, but I found the book to be such a chore to read that I didn't even consider watching the show.

I'm actually pretty surprised at how popular the books are. While I don't necessarily like them, I can usually understand why certain genre books are popular.

by Anonymousreply 1301/06/2019

R13, the series is very different than the books.

by Anonymousreply 1401/06/2019

R13 it took me two tries to get through the first book. The second half of it was much better than the first. The third book slogged on and wasn’t very good plot wise but I grew to like the authors style by the end.

The show is so much more fun.

by Anonymousreply 1501/07/2019

The annoying head librarian is back.

by Anonymousreply 1601/26/2019

I so wanted to like the show. I watched season one and even though it certainly wasn't my favorite show I kept watching since there really aren't that many interesting gay characters on tv now, and I generally like urban fantasy. Still, on season two I couldn't take it anymore and dropped the show. I decided to read the book instead thinking it must be way better since so many people seem to love it.

I usually read books as audiobooks these days, while working and doing chores, and it didn't take long to realize the first novel wasn't any better than the show. If possible it was actually even worse since at some point I realized I didn't like ANY of the characters in the book, not a single one. It's a total mystery why people seem to love it. I assume the author was in his teens when writing the novel since that's the level of the maturity we're dealing with here. I read tons of garbage so it's not like I only read Booker Prize winners but I guess the Magicians world just isn't for me. There's something suffocating and tedious about it. It's like the author hates all the characters and is deliberately making them annoying as hell. I also suspect he might have created them based on the people he knows, and is having a revenge on them this way. The book actually reads like it was written by a vengeful teen girl with a very closed mindset.

by Anonymousreply 1701/26/2019

I really liked the fourth-season premiere. I mean, Alice's cell mate was Santa Claus!

by Anonymousreply 1801/28/2019

I have no idea what R17 is talking about. The TV show is excellent... one of the best shows on TV. It's utterly gripping, original, inventive, fascinating, with great characters and stories.

I loved the premiere too. (there was some discussion in the other magicians thread left over from season 3 I think)

by Anonymousreply 1901/28/2019

Episode two tomorrow!

by Anonymousreply 2001/29/2019

Holy shit what a cliff-hanger.

by Anonymousreply 2101/31/2019

Season 3 is the best so far, hope S4 will be better

by Anonymousreply 2201/31/2019

".... can I have Elliot back?"

by Anonymousreply 2301/31/2019

Will they go on another quest (imho the previous season was the best so far with kick-ass Margo)? Something about Dean Fogg's demand for Todd to document his last day screamed quest for me.

by Anonymousreply 2402/01/2019

Well, they just broke the spell, so Dean Fogg is back, no?

I wonder if they're going to drag defeating the evil inhabiting Elliot out for the whole season, or if they'll wrap that up in the first half and do something else the second half....

by Anonymousreply 2502/01/2019

Elliot will die if that thing leaves his body :(

by Anonymousreply 2602/01/2019

I've loved Margo every season so far... and still love her in season four!

by Anonymousreply 2702/02/2019

Todd (Adam DiMarco) is so fucking hot. He's my favorite character on the show. The schlub, Josh, is my least favorite.

by Anonymousreply 2802/02/2019

One of the best shows on television. Hated the book.

by Anonymousreply 2902/02/2019

"Todd... take off your shirt and bring me a sandwich".

Hell yeah.

by Anonymousreply 3002/02/2019

Quelliot FTW

by Anonymousreply 3102/02/2019

R28 🍑

by Anonymousreply 3202/03/2019

R32, is he Gay? too bad the Oliver is ugly..

by Anonymousreply 3302/03/2019

I get a major gay vibe from Todd. Though I'm sure his character is gay, the actor really pings.

by Anonymousreply 3402/03/2019

Me too.

by Anonymousreply 3502/04/2019

Really late edit, but meant to say *I'm sure his character *ISN'T* gay

by Anonymousreply 3602/04/2019

Todd/Adam has a well-rounded ass.

by Anonymousreply 3702/04/2019

Would love to see it out of the pants.

by Anonymousreply 3802/04/2019

I always find Quentin attractive, even though he is actually not that good looking, also not tall. I still don't know why I like him. lol.

Talking about Quentin, in the books, Quentin is actually depicted to be quite tall.

by Anonymousreply 3902/04/2019

^^^ J's a manlet. A sexy manlet with massive hairy forearms.

by Anonymousreply 4002/05/2019

Fuck a duck, was QQ sporting a tantalizing moose knuckle when they were bargaining with the fatass forger, or was I imagining things?

by Anonymousreply 4102/08/2019

Hale Appleman is so sexy.

by Anonymousreply 4202/16/2019

Season 3 was a way to redeem Jules. There is no character on this show I hated more than her. The Godess plot was obviously planned so we would like her again. Little did I know Alice would take her place so I would have another character to hate instead, yay! I honestly wouldn't care if she died at this point, just like I didn't care about Julia if she died after getting raped. Yes, what happened to her was awful but the depressing self pity shtick got old fast. Now Alice is the one who is fucking mental. Actually, she has been ever since she came back from being a niffin. That small window where Alice had died and Quentin hadn't brought her back yet was the best part about season 3. I hope they kill her off. She's insufferable. The only female characters I like are Kady and Margo.

by Anonymousreply 4302/16/2019

I want an orgy with the male cast because they are sexy as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 4402/16/2019

r32 Is that Viktor from Deadly Class in the photo with him?

And yes, his ass is amazing. As are Bacchus' thighs (RIP). We've had lengthy discussions on reddit about both.

by Anonymousreply 4502/16/2019

Elliot and Todd need to fuck.

by Anonymousreply 4602/16/2019

Between this show and Deadly Class, SyFy is suddenly relevant again. And damn, all the sexy dudes in both shows.

by Anonymousreply 4702/16/2019

Eliot needs a new love interest.

by Anonymousreply 4802/17/2019

Considering that he is currently dead, Eliot probably has more important concerns at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 4902/17/2019

Of course this show had to kill off the only gay character, because why not.

by Anonymousreply 5002/17/2019

r50 Elliot? But people die and come back all the time on this show. They'll find a way or they wouldn't have shown him at the end of the most recent episode.

by Anonymousreply 5102/17/2019

Elliot is not dead, did you watch the latest episode?

by Anonymousreply 5202/17/2019

^^ Seconding R52 -- the reveal at the end of this week's episode = he's not at all dead, just banished by the monster to some parallel (inner?) dimension from which, presumably, he'll eventually be rescued.

by Anonymousreply 5302/17/2019

We already knew that the dead in The Magicians' universe live on in another place. That doesn't make them not dead.

by Anonymousreply 5402/17/2019

He'll be back fully, I'm sure. Now that the gods are in play, there's not much that can't be undone.

by Anonymousreply 5502/17/2019

I wonder what the beast was after... he found it, didn't he? I feel like I'm missing something.

by Anonymousreply 5602/19/2019

Quentin is just so damn adorable. I have such a crush on him.

by Anonymousreply 5702/20/2019

Loved the kiss between Elliot and Quentin

by Anonymousreply 5802/20/2019

r58 That was great and completely unexpected.

I'm going to miss the sassy maenad.

by Anonymousreply 5902/21/2019

This new episode was SO good. The lack of gayness has been my main issue with the show since it premiered. I feel like this new episode made up for it. Also, we finally got an episode dedicated to Eliot, which he deserved. It'll be interesting to see where it goes, maybe we'll finally get a legit love triangle with Alice, Quentin and Eliot.

by Anonymousreply 6002/21/2019

One thing I didn't like about the episode though was Josh and Margo. I just don't see them together, not because Margo is way out of his league and they would never happen in real life (which is true), it's just that Margo seems to let a part of herself go when she's with him. I prefer badass Margo, not the soft mess we saw in this new episode. I want Margo to be happy, don't get me wrong, but I don't think Josh will make her happy. He's not the partner she needs. I feel like she was desperately looking for a new partner after she thought she had lost Eliot and Josh for a moment filled that void.

by Anonymousreply 6102/21/2019

I lost interest when they shut off magic.

Too many other things on my watch list to go back to it any time soon.

Here's a thought, TV writers and producers: don't create a series about magic and then have an entire season where there isn't any.

And yeah the "Elliot is bi" thing pissed me off too. Genre series always try to earn their diversity points with "pansexuals" and hot lesbians, but rarely have the balls to show gay men. Fuck that.

by Anonymousreply 6202/21/2019

r62 Yeah, I hated that no-magic arc. Still do now that it's rationed. But the gods entered the scene so I'm intrigued.

I like the show and look forward to each new episode, however the one thing that has been bothering me more and more is that I have little recollection of the particular events that happened last season, because so much happens in every episode and season. When Quentin was pissed with Alice this episode, I had no idea what exactly she had done to him in the previous season. Same for different reality Marina. It's all a bit too convoluted now. And remember the days of them first discovering Fillory? Feels like an eternity ago, even though it's actually only been three seasons ago. Don't get me wrong, those myriad of side quests are cute and funny and they actually [italic]are[/italic] the show at the end of the day, but you could write a tome about them three seasons in. I want a quiet moment with all of them together now and then, not just always in crisis mode.

by Anonymousreply 6302/21/2019

R62, now they have 'straight' Quenton being bi, so … kinda undoes your point.

R63, the show is a lot more comprehensible when binged, but yeah, I DO rely on the "previously on..." bit at the start to remind me of all the things they're going to reference in this episode.

by Anonymousreply 6402/21/2019

r64 See, I always skip those "Previously on..." bits out of habit, even though they're intended exactly for people like me. I'm my own worst enemy, aren't I?

by Anonymousreply 6502/21/2019

I love this show and am really surprised I’m into Eliot and Quentin together. I guess this is what the kids these days are calling “fluid”? They are very sweet together and I’ve never seen a gay romance in a fantasy setting like this.

I love Margo and her bitchy one liners. She was hilarious with Fen. I’m also very attracted to Penny. I like that everyone on this show is either super tall like Penny and Eliot, or tiny pocket people like Quentin and all the girls.

by Anonymousreply 6602/21/2019

Yes, R65, because they very carefully edit those things to help you 'get' all the references you need for the upcoming episode. Some of them are pretty long.

by Anonymousreply 6702/21/2019

Since when has Elliot been bi?

by Anonymousreply 6802/21/2019

Well he did have that threesome with Margo and Quentin. Seems like I'm the only one who isn't into that Queliot - pairing at all. I just don't buy it. To me, Quentin and Alice will always be OTP. Whatever happened to Eliots hot fiancé, the king of Loria, anyway?

by Anonymousreply 6902/22/2019

R64: It doesn't "undo" my point. It validates it.

These shows will show men as bi or "fluid," but never just gay. And even then the bulk of their sexual and romantic relationships will be with women. They took the only character who seemed clearly gay and put him in a mmf threesome, then married him off to a woman. That they turned straight quentin bi/fluid doesn't make up for that, sorry.

Please direct me to any scifi/genre series where a MAIN and MALE character is exclusively gay, and I'll eat my words.

Star Trek Discovery went there, and then killed one of the couple (Wilson Cruz) off before the first season even ended.

And they'll only do lesbian characters when they're fem and hot. It isn't progress. It's more of the same: wank material for straight guys.

And about the plots: they do get way too convoluted on this show. I binged 2 1/2 seasons and it's now been a year. I'm pretty sure I'd have no idea what was going on, and there is no way I'm going to start this show over from the beginning.

by Anonymousreply 7002/22/2019

[quote]Star Trek Discovery went there, and then killed one of the couple (Wilson Cruz) off before the first season even ended.

To be fair, he's back now and it's the only romantic arc of the second season so far. But yes, having him murdered in cold blood didn't look great at the time.

by Anonymousreply 7102/22/2019

Eliot is way more gay than bi. The threesome was the only way he could get Quentin into bed

by Anonymousreply 7202/22/2019

The threesome was the after-effect of some sort of spell and anyway Elliot and Margo didn't necessarily fuck - they could both have nailed Quentin.

by Anonymousreply 7302/22/2019

I loved the fact that Quentin was the one who proposed they give it a shot. Aside from that, I hope this kiss marked the end of their "will they won't they" arc. I want a stable relationship for Elliot and this ain't it.

by Anonymousreply 7402/22/2019

R74 I saw a recent live stream with Hale on Instagram. He was really excited about Eliot and Quentin and said they were canon in the books. I think they will happen for real this time, not just as a MMF threesome or because they're high on drugs.

by Anonymousreply 7502/22/2019

[quote]To be fair, he's back now

What the hell do you mean "he's back now"? From the dead??

by Anonymousreply 7602/22/2019

r76 Yes, he was resurrected just last week.

by Anonymousreply 7702/22/2019

How the fuck. That makes me not want to watch Star Trek Discovery any more. What a fucking cheat.

by Anonymousreply 7802/22/2019

r78 It [italic]was[/italic] a cheat in a way, but his death allowed them to use the power of Gay Love (TM) to guide Discovery back home at the end of the first season. And it made for a beautiful emotional episode last week. So, on balance, I think it was worth it. Plus Culber is getting an interesting new arc of being confused in his new body, and his relationship with Stamets possibly being on the rocks because of it. At the end of the day, gay characters on that show are getting (organic) airtime, so I'm not complaining.

by Anonymousreply 7902/22/2019

Hale did an AMA yesterday, check it out:

by Anonymousreply 8002/23/2019

He was on Instagram Live too a couple of days ago. I wish I had recorded it. It was nice to hear his thoughts on Eliot and Quentin.

by Anonymousreply 8102/23/2019

r75 I don't know how to feel about that, honestly. Of course I'm not going to protest it but I don't want their romantic relationship - if it ever does happen properly - to be used as a device that makes Quentin realize how much he loves pussy/Alice after all. It wouldn't be worth it in the end.

by Anonymousreply 8202/23/2019

Are we not watching the same show? Eliot is clearly gay. His marriage to a woman showed how gay he is.

by Anonymousreply 8302/23/2019

R70 This is especially true of the new Sabrina. They made the two gay characters bi and involved with orgies with young witches.

This is what's so comical about so called "bi erasure." Bisexuality has always been the more preferable sexuality in television and in culture since the 20's.

Disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 8402/23/2019

R83 Especially since the marriage was completely arranged.

by Anonymousreply 8502/23/2019

I find it interesting that some viewers' obsession with labels keeps them from appreciating what's happening between Quentin and Eliot. It's like the world is going to end the moment they let go of this supposed natural order of black & white sexual identity.

by Anonymousreply 8602/23/2019

R86 Idiot bisexual

by Anonymousreply 8702/23/2019

R86 This is why no one likes you, you realize? Your "don't label me, I'm not soup" platitudes stop being interesting after about 2004.

[quote] the moment they let go of this supposed natural order of black & white sexual identity.

You clearly have no boundaries or respect for them. This is part of the entitled bisexual rape complex

by Anonymousreply 8802/23/2019

[quote]keeps them from appreciating what's happening between Quentin and Eliot

r86 What's happening between them is fan-fuelled wish fulfillment. Apart from that threesome (as a result of a spell) and them spending fifty years together (again, as a result of a spell), the show gave us no indication whatsoever that Quentin might be attracted to guys as well. Them ending up in a romantic relationship would be playing into that unhealthy myth among gay men that the straight guy will eventually get worn down and "give in" if only you pester him long enough, possibly through coercive and nefarious means. The second gross thing it would perpetuate is that a friendship between a straight guy and a gay guy alone is never good enough and needs an upgrade in the form of a romance. Fuck that. They have a beautiful friendship going on, so I really hope the writers don't go there again.

r84 Sabrina is fucking outrageous. Three gay guys on the writing staff in addition to the gay showrunner, and there's not one gay male character on the show. Male homosexuality is used as the butt of a joke several times, and the one gay guy gets possessed, tortured and degraded horribly, and then murdered - also horribly, of course - for his "perversion". A character then casually suggests he might have been trans all long. I love the show but what the fuck exactly were those homos doing in the writers' room while the trans guy and the fraus were presenting this?

I'm just getting worked up again so I'll stop. I apologize for the detour.

by Anonymousreply 8902/23/2019

R89 Yup. The show seeks to challenge and reverse Christian dogma in every sort of way yet still manages to plant the idea that the gay character is rife for possession because he's a "sinner."

Also the "lesbian" character (Susie) called a DYKE throughout the series is actually trans and meant to be a boy, as affirmed by the blind psychic character that can see she clearly has a masculine spirit "trapped in the wrong body."

The trans lobby has its homophobic hooks in everything. This isn't progress.

by Anonymousreply 9002/23/2019

[quote] [R86] This is why no one likes you, you realize?

How mature. What's next, you inviting other posters to your sleepover and letting me know I am not invited, because I'm not popular enough? I don't give a fuck if you like me. And I especially don't give a fuck if you like yourself which clearly you don't since you come off as bitter and defensive.

[quote] You clearly have no boundaries or respect for them. This is part of the entitled bisexual rape complex.

That is quite rich coming from someone who uses the word rape so casually. I guess only certain words matter to you?

by Anonymousreply 9102/23/2019

[quote] Them ending up in a romantic relationship would be playing into that unhealthy myth among gay men that the straight guy will eventually get worn down and "give in" if only you pester him long enough, possibly through coercive and nefarious means.

God forbid that a perceived straight fictional character questions his total straightness. It would be the end of the world.

by Anonymousreply 9202/23/2019

[quote] Them ending up in a romantic relationship would be playing into that unhealthy myth among gay men that the straight guy will eventually get worn down and "give in" if only you pester him long enough, possibly through coercive and nefarious means.

For ages gay characters had storylines where they struggle with going straight for a woman at least once (for example Steven on Dynasty, Ian from UK's Shameless). "Unhealthy myths" create drama and sometimes character development.

by Anonymousreply 9302/23/2019

[quote] [R84] Sabrina is fucking outrageous. Three gay guys on the writing staff in addition to the gay showrunner, and there's not one gay male character on the show.

What a self righteous comment. Ambrose doesn't count because he isn't the right kind of gay (since he identifies as pansexual or is it because he's black?)?

It proves my point at r86 of people being so hung up on labels that they get so worked up over such trivial matters.

[quote] I'm just getting worked up again so I'll stop.

Please don't. You make your side look like the unhinged one million moms they are.

by Anonymousreply 9402/23/2019

[quote]What's happening between them is fan-fuelled wish fulfillment. Apart from that threesome (as a result of a spell) and them spending fifty years together (again, as a result of a spell), the show gave us no indication whatsoever that Quentin might be attracted to guys as well.

Sorry R89. No, it's not.

It started in the books when Lev Grossman wrote a scene where Quentin watches Eliot give a boy a blowjob and wonders why Eliot hasn't asked to do that to him. There's a couple of other moments that could be ambiguous afterwards.

Lev confirmed back in 2016, in an interview on video, that yes. Quentin was bisexual in the books. He confirmed, that was why that moment was there. (He also leans towards women.)

That's a bit different than JK saying Dumbledore is gay with zero supporting evidence in the text.

The producers of the show also said back in Season 1 that Quentin is bisexual.

They're not real clear at explaining things but that's just how they do it, even with Eliot. (Lev also intentionally wrote the books that way.)

So far: Eliot is bisexual but leans towards men. Quentin is bisexual but leans towards women.

Bisexual is the new "hot lesbian on a tv show." You see it on Schitt's Creek with David's character being "pansexual." You see the same thing on Sabrina. It's here too. It's also on "The 100."

by Anonymousreply 9502/23/2019

[quote] What a self righteous comment. Ambrose doesn't count because he isn't the right kind of gay (since he identifies as pansexual or is it because he's black?)?

Gay is not an umbrella term. Men that have sex with women are not gay.

No wonder you sound like a 16 year old from myspace with your whole "labels are for soup!" schtick. You have NO idea what words actually mean!

by Anonymousreply 9602/24/2019

I'm kinda glad we get more Marina. Seeing her outsmart Fogg kinda makes me jizz. I also want to see how she and Kady are gonna go after one another.

by Anonymousreply 9702/24/2019

r96, myspace? Is that still a thing for you? Now I just pity you.

by Anonymousreply 9802/24/2019

Just because a gay man is forced to sleep with a woman does not make him bi. What about all the gay kings or princes who had to marry women and procreate? Are they bi because their penises touched vaginal walls?

by Anonymousreply 9902/24/2019

R98 Not as much as I pity you, Aedan. I know you're our resident FTM homophobe obsessed with gay men while simultaneously denying homosexuality exists.

by Anonymousreply 10002/24/2019

Homosexuality does exist as do heterosexuality, bisexuality / pansexuality. The difference between you and me is that you try to make one superior and dismiss the others as inferior.

by Anonymousreply 10102/24/2019

R101 I really don't. I pointed out to you that so called "pansexuals" are not gay, as gay is not an umbrella term. There is no "right kind of gay," but heterosexuals and bisexuals are not any type of gay.

by Anonymousreply 10202/24/2019

Gay men have been having sex with women for centuries. Doesn't make them any less gay.

by Anonymousreply 10302/24/2019

R103 Nice try, but as you already said the character is "pansexual" I think you can give it up now. The queering of sexual boundaries and orientations must end.

by Anonymousreply 10402/24/2019

I'm not the one who said that R104

by Anonymousreply 10502/24/2019

I think Jason Ralph is so damn cute. Hope he's hung!

by Anonymousreply 10602/24/2019

The scene of Margo refusing to cry and mourn for Eliot was heartbreaking. Her lips quivering was a nice touch. Call me Mary! but Summer Bishil should get at least an Emmy nomination for her performance as Margo.

by Anonymousreply 10702/24/2019

r107 Same. I had no idea where that scene was heading but then she said "I won't be able to stop if I start crying now", and it hit me like a truck. Great writing and acting.

by Anonymousreply 10802/24/2019

I loved the grayish atmosphere in this series, there is no absolute white and black, no absolute good or evil, even when it comes to sexuality, it's fluid.

by Anonymousreply 10902/25/2019

So Alice finally got her redemption arc, that last scene of her was amazing. Also, Marina has a girlfriend. lol

by Anonymousreply 11002/28/2019

Not sure it's a redemption arc, given apparently everything goes to shit next week.

by Anonymousreply 11102/28/2019

I love how it was pointed out that magic (like drugs and acohol) is what you make of it. And call me Mary! but the last moments of Alice taking some time to watch the children play warmed my little, black heart.

by Anonymousreply 11202/28/2019

Holy shit, that was Camryn Manheim. I thought she played a nurse on Chicago Hope or E.R., but nope, that isn't in her credits. Who am I confusing her with? Anyway, I do remember Camryn from Will&Grace and the unfortunate Extant.

Marina has a girlfriend! The beloved cat, the anger... it all makes sense now.

The librarians needs to be fucking killed one by one, and the Library burned down and its grounds salted. And I say that as a librarian. But gosh, those fuckers on this show are just the worst!

by Anonymousreply 11302/28/2019

R113, she was on "LA Law" as a lesbian lawyer with a ton of weird earrings, right?

by Anonymousreply 11402/28/2019

r114 No, but thanks for pointing me in the right direction; she was on The Practice! For some reason, I was thinking of a medical drama, instead of a legal one.

You were spot on about the earrings, though, which are firmly etched in my memory as well. I do recall her character being a lesbian, though I can't find any confirmation about that online. Can't believe that show is considered too old / not important enough to have its own wiki. It felt so modern and cutting edge at the time. Like HTGAWM before HTGAWM.

by Anonymousreply 11502/28/2019

[quote]so modern and cutting edge at the time

Having said that, just how basic does she look in that photo? Yeesh. Pre-HD costume designers had it so much easier. Compare that to the fabrics and the prints Baranski wears on The Good Fight and it feels more like half a century has passed since then.

by Anonymousreply 11602/28/2019

Seriously can't wait until we get gay Elliot back.

by Anonymousreply 11702/28/2019

R117, Elliot is not gay, he is bi both in the book and movie.

by Anonymousreply 11803/01/2019

There is no movie, and to call TV Elliot "Bi" is ridiculous. He's gay.

by Anonymousreply 11903/01/2019

Fuck off R118

by Anonymousreply 12003/01/2019

He's bi. Get over it.

by Anonymousreply 12103/01/2019

He's all gay now.

by Anonymousreply 12203/01/2019

The beautiful Adam DiMarco

by Anonymousreply 12303/01/2019

r123 Makes me angry how pretty he is. Like when a baby animal is so adorable you just want to slap it.

by Anonymousreply 12403/01/2019

Camryn Manheim has a cute teenage son who might be family.

I can’t believe the Practice is that old that people don’t know about it either. I remember hating her on that show though, and her too long thin hair. She was adorable on the Magicians though.

Oh and Eliot is gay.

by Anonymousreply 12503/01/2019

Can we please put this stupid discussion to rest. Eliot ist mostly gay, according to Lev Grossman. Also, Hale said the following regardign Eliot's marriage to Fen: "I would never deny that Eliot is largely a homosexual," Appleman said. "I want to do nothing to undermine that Eliot is a queer character and a hero at that. That's important to me, that's important to the fandom, that's important to the legacy that [author] Lev Grossman created."

by Anonymousreply 12603/02/2019

I loved how the "Famous people from Modesto" jar candles in the shop were just George Lucas, Timothy Olyphant, and James Marsters over and over again. Poor Jeremy Renner and Marcia Lucas.

r126 Thanks for that quote, although seeing "homosexual" used as a noun outside of DL always makes me cringe.

by Anonymousreply 12703/02/2019

I don't understand how someone can watch the Magicians and think Eliot is bisexual. He may have been bisexual in the books, but the TV show says otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 12803/03/2019

r123 He was guesting on Charmed last night. Gorgeous, gorgeous guy.

by Anonymousreply 12903/04/2019

I just wish he would come out. R129

by Anonymousreply 13003/04/2019

I wish I could just tie him up and edge him until he does, r130.

by Anonymousreply 13103/04/2019

Jason Ralph >> Todd

by Anonymousreply 13203/04/2019

^^ In what world, America? In what world?!

by Anonymousreply 13303/04/2019

Just watched the new episode, Penny with suit and his supervisor's supervisor is hot lol

by Anonymousreply 13403/06/2019

Almost didn't recognize Chris Brochu. Still seems gay.

by Anonymousreply 13503/06/2019

Interesting episode. Basically the entire thing was a Penny Job Interview.

by Anonymousreply 13603/06/2019

Todd is so underrated. Wish the show would give him more to do. He has excellent chemistry with Eliot too. If Eliot doesn't end up with Quentin my vote is that he ends up with Todd.

by Anonymousreply 13703/06/2019

What the hell was with all those cute guys being introduced in this episode? There were too many to count, so I just went with an ethnic one.

"Jesus lizard-fucking Christ!" - I love no more bleeping on this show. Though I feel like the twists and turns with Margo's destiny lizard are getting ridiculous.

I also love the head librarian's elephant pants. I feel like they're the spiritual successor of the beloved caftan. Only, you know, modern and more socially acceptable to wear outside of one's home. And that broad looks amazing in them.

by Anonymousreply 13803/07/2019

I thought “super straight white guy” Penny was lecturing was Andrew Rannellis

by Anonymousreply 13903/07/2019

Rannells is too big to be a tertiary character on this show.

by Anonymousreply 14003/07/2019

True. The actor still seems gay to me which made all the “cis hetero bro” stuff kind of funny

by Anonymousreply 14103/07/2019

Chris Brochu is gay and you can't change my mind.

by Anonymousreply 14203/07/2019

I dunno, he looked and acted the part of a straight white dudebros pretty well, imho.

by Anonymousreply 14303/07/2019

I was struggling to place his voice the entire episode and then it hit me - he sounded exactly like Alex Karpovsky from Girls.

by Anonymousreply 14403/07/2019

R137, Ew no, he is an irrelevant character.

by Anonymousreply 14503/07/2019

But he's cute R145

by Anonymousreply 14603/07/2019

Todd is so damn cute R137. He is a touch more masc in The Order on Netflix, but that show is HORRIBLE.

by Anonymousreply 14703/08/2019

So you actually tried watching that show, r147?

by Anonymousreply 14803/08/2019

Chris Brochu has previously played a gay witch.

by Anonymousreply 14903/09/2019

Another 'filler' episode...but next episode looks promising though.

by Anonymousreply 15003/14/2019

Come on, that "Napster" joke was great.

Don't mind me, I'll be over here rubbing eggs into my temples.

by Anonymousreply 15103/14/2019

This show needs more Todd/Adam DiMarco, especially if they put him in pants that can barely contain his ass like they did a couple of episodes ago.

by Anonymousreply 15203/15/2019

I need one of those sex voodoo dolls to give Todd/Adam DiMarco orgasms from afar. And yes, I realize that's a form of sexual assault, I'm just joking.

by Anonymousreply 15303/15/2019

[QUOTE] Can we please put this stupid discussion to rest. Eliot ist mostly gay, according to Lev Grossman. Also, Hale said the following regardign Eliot's marriage to Fen: "I would never deny that Eliot is largely a homosexual," Appleman said. "I want to do nothing to undermine that Eliot is a queer character and a hero at that. That's important to me, that's important to the fandom, that's important to the legacy that [author] Lev Grossman created."

That's a lot of words to basically say "Look, I just don't want the character to be a total fag! Give me my diversity points and shut up!"

by Anonymousreply 15403/15/2019

Alice is very Marilyn Monroesque

by Anonymousreply 15503/15/2019

Did that crazy dragon lady lie about the baby being Quentin's? I'm confused.

by Anonymousreply 15603/15/2019

It's not Quentin's baby

by Anonymousreply 15703/15/2019

R153 Todd is so underrated. They need to give him more screen time. I don't get why they promoted Josh to a series regular but not Todd. Makes no sense. I'd much rather watch more of Todd. Josh's constant weed references are stupid too. I really want Todd with Eliot if this thing with Q doesn't work out. At least we'd have two gay characters played by two gay men.

by Anonymousreply 15803/15/2019

[quote] I don't get why they promoted Josh to a series regular but not Todd. Makes no sense. I'd much rather watch more of Todd.

Josh was a character in the books. I think Todd was just for this show.

They did give him more to do last season but I wonder if the fact that he had booked a regular role on another TV series prevented him from being in this season more.

R158, Even Netflix knows that "Todd's" body (on a show he isn't even the star of) will get people watching.

by Anonymousreply 15903/16/2019

There is a theory that Todd is related to Elliot... (Well, they literally have the same name, which are Elliot). So, he prob will have a big role in future episodes since this season is kinda Elliot-centric.

Tbh, I don't find him underrated at all, his acting is pretty average and his character in this series is also nothing interesting. About his looks? Nobody ever underrated him.

by Anonymousreply 16003/16/2019

[quote] Did that crazy dragon lady lie about the baby being Quentin's? I'm confused.

Both Quentin and Poppy (crazy dragon lady) were under the influence of the spell that protected the fertilized dragon egg and it made them act like they are its parents (and the viewer thinking that it's about the baby in Poppy's womb).

by Anonymousreply 16103/17/2019

I didn't understand the statement that Adam inserted in a recent Instagram story, something about needing more dick. There was a eggplant inserted on an image of Supernatural's Alexander Calvert. If anyone saw it, please explain.

by Anonymousreply 16203/17/2019

He wants Calvert's eggplant, i.e. dick.

by Anonymousreply 16303/17/2019

I don't blame him. I think they'd make a cute couple

by Anonymousreply 16403/17/2019

Too bad he's straight and married.

by Anonymousreply 16503/17/2019

Which one's married?

by Anonymousreply 16603/17/2019

Alexander Calvert.

by Anonymousreply 16703/17/2019

Didn't realize since his Wikipedia and IMDB page have no mention of it. Still think they'd be cute together.

by Anonymousreply 16803/17/2019

[quote]Both Quentin and Poppy (crazy dragon lady) were under the influence of the spell that protected the fertilized dragon egg and it made them act like they are its parents (and the viewer thinking that it's about the baby in Poppy's womb).

I think some fans were confused about that because of the conversation Poppy had with Quentin at the end of the episode even after the egg was gone. It seemed like she may really a have been pregnant with Quentin's baby because she really was pregnant. She said it wasn't his but Poppy also lies.

It's nice to hear the boy has taste.

by Anonymousreply 16903/17/2019

I'm waiting for the musical episode of the season. Last season's 'Under Pressure' was pretty great.

Though that means another filler episode lol

by Anonymousreply 170Last Wednesday at 1:13 PM

They are doing another? For real? Didn't care for the one last season at all.

by Anonymousreply 171Last Wednesday at 1:37 PM

Yeah, I could do without another one of those. Most of them didn't have a good singing voice and Kady sounded straight-up dubbed the last time around.

by Anonymousreply 172Last Wednesday at 2:04 PM

I didn't care for it either R171 but it's coming.

But it doesn't sound like it's a filler episode. They managed to tie it into a book event that we should get to after this week's episode.

(Minor spoilers in the article)

by Anonymousreply 173Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM

Actually I'm looking forward to it.

Poor Margo! DEPOSED!

by Anonymousreply 174Last Wednesday at 9:17 PM

After this episode, I think I can finally accept Josh-Margo and Julia-Penny relationships.

by Anonymousreply 175Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM

Too bad the credits spoiled Gethin Anthony in advance because I would have screamed otherwise. The one true king! Such a shame that horrid Finn Jones has gotten better gigs than him post-GoT.

His Insta is so tasteful and carefully curated so as not to give anything away about his personal life. Bitch be keeping all of his options on the table for future work.

by Anonymousreply 176Last Thursday at 9:19 AM

I'm not QUITE clear on the whole overthrow-King-Margo storyline and why Margo voluntarily left -- what is the quest she's on/what is she hoping to find?

by Anonymousreply 177Last Friday at 3:52 PM

I've no idea what that arc was about and laughed when the guards dramatically marched Margo towards some generic wall at the end of the episode.

by Anonymousreply 178Last Friday at 3:57 PM

R177 & R178 She is going to try to convince some Fillory hating desert people to give her the means to exorcise the monster from Eliot's body. She just proved that Fillory "hates" her by deposing her.

Enough said?

by Anonymousreply 179Last Friday at 4:05 PM

R177 & R178 That's what you got if you only watch because of the hot guys. :p

by Anonymousreply 180Yesterday at 12:41 AM

Love Margo and it kind of breaks my heart that for all the bad ass shit she has done for Fillory as a reward she's now being thrown out (even if it helps her quest to save Elliot).

by Anonymousreply 181Yesterday at 12:53 AM

Ah, many thanks R179!

Admittedly, I was super-tired when I watched this week's episode and found myself nodding off a couple of times. Clearly, I missed some key details.

And LOL to R180. (I'm a lady gay, so... not so much. But I do love Eliot and Q together. :-))

by Anonymousreply 182Yesterday at 4:15 AM
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