Rose Says It’s ‘Literally Impossible’ Meryl Streep Didn’t Know About Weinstein’s Predatory Behavior

The most egregious thing about this is her use of "literally"

Oh dear

I agree with her.

Madonna was the one throwing his parties for decades. Forget Streep.

Rose supports a pedophile. Next.

r3 = G

Eh. Rose fucked Weinstein for roles, regretted it, cried rape. I no longer believe that she was attacked.

As crazy as Rose is, I love seeing her drag celebrities for how fake they are. Of course M knew something was going on. She may not have known all the details, but she’s powerful and connected enough to have heard the stories.

R3 Same.

My mom knew about Weinstein, so there's no way Meryl Streep didn't.

[quote]She may not have known all the details, but she’s powerful and connected enough to have heard the stories.

So what exactly was she supposed to do about it?

Someone told me this months ago, and its pretty much true....

Both the perpetrators & people who came forward in Hollywood are going to get blacklisted.

Meryl knew he was a pig. We all knew he was a pig. Newsflash: show business is filled with unsavory characters. One picks one battles carefully. And rightly so. It was not her responsibility as he didn’t ‘unload’ on her in that way...

Of course everyone knew. If it's joked about on a mainstream comedy show like 30 Rock, even your grandma knew.

Aborigines in the Australian Outback knew about Harvey. Primitive tribes in South American rain forests cut off from the modern world knew about Harvey. But Meryl didn't. Sure. Unless apart from when she is on film sets where she speaks to absolutely no one, she exists solely in a sensory deprivation chamber in CT.

If Rose wants to harangue anyone other than Harvey she need look no farther than Richard Rodriguez According to Rose, Rodriguez sold his movie to Harvey after she was raped. I guess Richard doesn't get as much attention as Meryl.

McGowan is a batshit crazy shit stirrer. She’s served her purpose. NEXT!

nothing to with streep, rose.

And didn’t this bitch take hush money?

I even heard about Bryan Singer liking barely legal boys and fondling them publicly on set years before Michael Egan came out.

Rose has become the Juanita Broadderick of Hollywood. Believe her, but no one else. Just in it for the self-righteous attention at this point.

R15 She knew when she signed on to do Grindhouse that Rodriguez had a "first look" deal with Harvey for the film.

Rose is right.

Who'd touch her nasty ass cunt?..... #NOT ME

She seems like an alcoholic/druggie cunt to me. She's not doing #metoo any favors. They need to find another voice.

What’s wrong with you people?

Who cares what Rose says. She's totally unbalanced and ridiculous ..

But her eyebrows look better in this pic ..

[quote]It was not her responsibility

But it was Meryl's responsibility to take Walt Disney to task for allegedly treating his female employees like shit? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Not a fan of Rose, but come on. There were other veteran actresses out there who spoke more eloquently on this issue than Meryl did.

When the Weinstein stuff blew up I asked someone well connected in the business about Meryl. He said she is the biggest gossip on any set she's on. She knew.

Meryl rushed out her initial statement too fast. It only made her look bad, when Glenn Close, Jane Fonda and others started speaking up about it. Glenn flat out said everybody knew. I don't know why she felt compelled to speak out so quickly, but it did not do her any favors.

Meryl knew.

Who cares if Meryl knew - everyone knew about Wenstein and a bunch of other people too. Yea - poor timing for Meryl .. but again .. what does it matter ??

Rose just trying to latch onto so something ... ANYTHING ...

This is getting tragic. Meryl isn't Rose's mommy. Rose is assuming she knows how Meryl's brain functions by saying "she knew", which is impossible to prove in anything but a kangaroo court of public opinion.

[quote] Meryl rushed out her initial statement too fast. It only made her look bad, when Glenn Close, Jane Fonda and others started speaking up about it. Glenn flat out said everybody knew.

I saw an opportunity and took it. We’re not friends, you know. Just acquaintances.

Did Meryl also know about the Grand Maul Seizures?

I thought Rose disowned everyone and the movement that she herself began.

So she's still yelling about it?

Just DIE already.

Remember the story that Meryl told, about auditioning for 'King Kong' with Dino De Laurentis, and not knowing that Meryl understood Italian, he said that she was ugly?. Meryl is not known for being sexy or glamorous, but for her talent. So, unless he made a play for her, or she witness him doing it to another woman, she didn't 'know'. I have no doubt she heard the rumors, but many other people did, too, and didn't speak up. And Rose actually was directly pursued by him, and she was willing to take a financial settlement to keep her mouth shut.

I hear plenty of rumors about my co-workers (drug use, infidelity) but without some direct evidence, a rumor is still just a rumor. Try to blame a woman instead of the offending man is ridiculous.

^You're fucking joking, right? So someone in Meryl's position would have to go by rumors, and not insider knowledge from people who actually knew what they were talking about?

Why would Courtney fucking Love have insider knowledge on Harvey, but not Meryl?

Again r38 - what does it matter what Meryl knew? Everyone knew. Why single Meryl out Lots and lots of hideous people work in film. Why is Meryl being singled out for not "outing" them.

That Rose chose to have a vendetta against Weinstein etc. is in many ways commendable. But she really didn't have a career to lose. Rose is as much of opportunist as she is a vigilante. Rose is presenting herself as a hero but she is really rather creepy too.

rose is excellent in grindhouse.

dont get why streep is being targeted. its wierd.

Anyone who follows Hollywood gossip heard the rumors but I doubt Meryl Streep knew significantly more than us. Are you supposed to call the police like "hey I hear this Weinstein is a sleazy casting couch guy"? Meryl wouldn't have experienced it firsthand and for all I know she might not have heard about it directly from a victim either.

Duh Hollywood is full of fake sanctimonious phonies

Is Rose just looking for other ways just to keep her name in the news? Just a few days ago she was attacking the me too and times up movement.

How many Oscars does she have? What was her best performance, the big-tittied slut in Scream or the big-tittied slut in Jawbreaker?

To be honest, Meryl Streep didn't know about Harvey because she was preoccupied with me eating her baby.

Oh please, all of hollywood knew and didn't give two shits about it. And had that expose never come out by the whale's idiot brother who thought he would stay as the new head of their production company never mind that he didn't see the Weinstein name becoming poison, hollywood would still be running the same.

Rose is attacking Meryl because M wouldn't be caught dead hanging around that trollop

Rose knows Republicans hate M after the Globes speech. She’s trying to court a new fan base of rabid conservative followers. That’s why she named both M and Hillary.

or the mettoers hate that streep achieved and maintained success on merit and talent rather than exchange of sexual favors.

Who do we blame for Rose? Marlyn Manson?

Rose speaks truth to power !

From the very beginning of Hollywood, everyone knew about the casting couch. So if anyone or their minor children got involved, it was with full knowledge of predatory producers, directors, agents. If they were raped, and survived, and didn't go to the police, it was on them. And no one else is responsible if others were exploited and chose not to report it,

(Fed up with this culture of victimisation.)

Obama let his daughter work for Weinstein

Weinstein’s wife—designer Georgina Chapman—claimed she knew nothing. She then filed for divorce.

You forgot to say the "gorgeous" Georgina Chapman. It's de riguer.

So what?

It was none of Meryl's or anyone else's business monitoring what other actresses did in order to get roles.

No matter what industry one is in, you'll always run into colleagues who have special arrangements negotiated in respect to their employment.

Look after yourself and keep your head down and stay out of it.

[quote]Look after yourself and keep your head down and stay out of it.

Um..hmmm.

Why do I keep seeing this obnoxious thread? It started several days ago and only has 57 replies ...

Meryl called Harvey "God" and Walt DIsney a Nazi.

Now she is in the new Mary Poppins.

Go figure that one out.

The bizarre, illogical scapegoating of Meryl Streep reminds me of a medieval witch hunt. It is not my business how my Co workers or bosses behave out of my eyesight. In previous workplaces I've heard rumors of improprieties between bosses and subordinates but I would never, in a million years, involve myself in the sex lives of other adults. Rose was not a prepubescent child when this whole thing went down. The insane attacks on Meryl strike me as similar to the right wing conspiracy theories that ultimately make no sense when examined. If Meryl knew, well than so did hundreds of other members of Hollywood. I'm tired of these millennial feminists who declare themselves "fierce and woke " but can't handle their own sex lives.

As Hitler's secretary,Traudl Junge said, "I had no idea about the atrocities going on at the time; but then if I had bothered to look, I certainly would have seen it."

R61 you must realize how absolutely batshit insane that comparison is. Only in America would sleazy, transactional sex be compared to the holocaust. Though somehow I suspect Rose probably really does put herself in the category of Hitler's victims.

I agree with R48 and R56.

However, she worried about Disney' s sympathies for the Nazi when Emma Thompson was campaining as best actress for Saving Mr. Banks and was therefore in competition with Osage County, the movie she was in.

It worked !

Why would she stab her in the back like that?

R64 because rose is incapable of taking any responsibility for her own life and lashes out at others. In her mind, she is the only one , on the face of the planet, who has ever gone through an adverse experience.

She knew.

R66 so the fuck what? Meryl is not the fucking morality /sex police.

Rose is batshit crazy and will try and hook into anyone. Cant give a shit if Meryl knew. Here is an idea, if the interview is in a hotel room, something might be off. Be a fucking adult and I am not saying being raped is any womens fault, but think a head. Meryl rushed her response, yes, but who gives a fuck. The whole #metoo has been fucked up by cunts like Rose. Fuck off with your 15mins of fame.

That crazy bitch Rose is right

Hearing a rumor and knowing with certainty (and receipts) that something happened are VERY different things.

'A' rumor? Are you making a joke?

R26, I disagree. Her eyebrows look drawn-on by a Sharpie.

I'm so tired of the deranged character assassination of Meryl Streep ,all over something she had no personal involvement in. All these hypothetical white knights are full of stinking bullshit. Say, in theory, she had heard that Harvey sometimes gave roles in exchange for parts. What the fuck was she supposed to do about that? And these Meryl haters conveniently overlook the fact that dozens of other individuals must have known as well. I suspect the unhinged attacks on Meryl are coming from 2 sources : Trump followers angry she insulted dear leader, and borderline personality disordered women with mommy issues.

I’ve seen the footage of Meryl giving Roman Polanski a standing ovation at the Oscars, so clearly she gives no shits about the issue of sexual abuse.

"You can't have your cake and eat it too."

And other cliches!

Rose just seems really fixated on being able to say "You're doing it wrong," about EVERYTHING.

They all clapped Polanski. Don't single one out to fit your bullshit

I'm sure Meryl knew, just like everyone else in the industry, but for most people (including Meryl) it was just rumours and you can't really act on those. Meryl's big mistake as others have said is making a statement to quickly that she didn't know - that's what she did wrong.

I think it's literally impossible that if Rose had Meryl's net worth, same amount of roles and awards, that she would of "started" this movement.

Asshole Meryl called out Disney for being an anti semite. The man died 50 years ago and she never even met him!

Inappropriate and astonishing in its stupidity but what do you expect from somebody who gives a standing ovation to a man who raped a 13 year old girl?

BUT HE WAS AN ANTI-SEMITE. Human beings, being human beings, can be terribly wrong about some things and right about other things.

R39 It matters because Streep LIED and said she didn't know.

If she had kept quiet (like most others did) it wouldn't matter.

Fuck Rose and Meryl

[quote] I'm tired of these millennial feminists who declare themselves "fierce and woke " but can't handle their own sex lives.

Oh, dear. Rose M is not a millennial.

People need to wake up and understand --- the people at the top of the entertainment industry meaning the biggest stars like actors and actresses and pop stars and rock stars and A+ list directors ........ these are the lowest of the low in terms of morality, reality, principles, accountability, decency and the like.

Meryl Streep is a fucking appalling human being, just like harvey, hillary, Bono, DeNiro, Madonna, Gaga, Clooney, Julia Roberts, Spielberg .... just the way it is.

It doesn't mean they don;t do charity work in Kenya or open schools in Nicaragua once in a while .... it just means they are horrible human beings with no consciences or souls or anything like that.

Of course Meryl knew. Of course she lied. So did every single person. Tarantino didn't know. Affleck didn't know. Nobody knew? EVERYBODY knew. That's what these people do. They are spoiled, indulged, self engrossed, and bereft of any morality whatsoever. In addition, they justify everything. All that matters to these people is themselves and their own lives and existence and careers and reputations.

To think the greatest actress with the most nominations ... etc .. is some kind of moral compass LOL ... she's the worst human maybe of all the actresses in history. Including Crawford.

R83 Glenn or Rabid Jessica Lange fan?

People are complicated, r83, despite your simplistic generalizations. You seem to be about a nanosecond away from discussing the Illuminati and numerology and Satanic sex cult rings. So let's avoid that.

Rose uses Meryl Streep's name for attention. She doesn't know anything about her and has never met her. It's sad.

Even the Sentinelese knew about Harvey, but they shrugged their shoulders and moved on.

r79 Walt Disney was Anti sematic and hated women, its a stated fact from his family members. Heaps of people have called Disney out over his bullshit and it being ironic since he created the happiest place on earth. Look at the early films, women are helpless and big, white men are good and save the day.

R 83, you're just a bit fucked in the head, aren't you princess. Fucking Christ you must be a treasure to be around. Generalisations ago go for your deplorable ass. You don't know Meryl so how the fuck would you know. Go back to Fox and the glory hole you little tight us cunt.

[quote]You forgot to say the "gorgeous" Georgina Chapman. It's de riguer.

No honey, it's a contractual obligation.

Everybody knew, you can't blame one individual for the actions of others.

Look like is" literally imposible" for RM to shut up. She is to blame that #metoo is becoming a joke, now when someone call some kind of abuse, more and more people start to roll the eyes.

And the Sherman Brothers who DID know him and worked with him for many years said he wasn't. So where does fucking Meryl get off shooting her mouth off?

Her behavior was major asshole behavior in that totally inappropriate situation.

Bacall has discussed Howard Hawks anti Semitism but she knew the man and did not make a thing of it at a public event. She discussed it as part of her career. She gave it as part of a context in the history of Hollywood.

Hell, Jewish executives in Hollywood called each other kike bastards and it was not with affection.

No she's a complete idiot. But I guess with being an actor it comes with the territory.

The weight of the scandal doesn't fall on Streep. It falls on Weinstein. Lots of people knew and said nothing and they have to live with that.

[quote]Everybody knew, you can't blame one individual for the actions of others.

Glad to hear you acknowledge that the only white people in the world today who are responsible for the enslavement of black people are those who destabilized Libya by killing Kaddhafi, thus leading to the return of the black slave trade.

It's not IF she knew but WHAT she knew. Everyone knew that women would go visit Harvey but that's a Tuesday in Hollywood and let 'em if they want to. It was assumed there was no abuse (and, quite frankly, I'm still not really buying it. Asking someone to watch you shower is far from a crime. And if he's a rapist, take him to trial but if it falls apart -- as it is doing -- then shut up and move on).

I've said it all along: Harvey will be back. Just watch. Spacey too.

R95 is deluded. Spacey won't even show his face in public. He hasn't been seen in over a year. Harvey will lay low too, if only to protect the illusion that Hollywood liberals are moral enough to dictate policy to others.

I would've had some respect for Streep if she said, "Rose is right. I did know. Harvey told me Rose spread her legs for him in a hot tub to get a part, and I chose not to say anything about it to the press."

Poor Rose let Harvey eat out her pussy. That has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. She’s a mess on drugs and is always desperately playing the victim for money.

HARVEY WILL BE BACK?

Tom Hanks the king said "The guy's done, no way around that."

How can Harvey return?

Very quietly behind the scenes in a new company and then an eventual Apology Tour -- but only if the Rape charges are completely dropped. He may have gotten very lucky with looney Paz.

My issue with Rose is that she is always attacking other women for press. No one likes her or even cares that she let Harvey eat her out. Compared to other victims, her story is insignificant. Loser.

R95 & R96 - Just because they aren't seen doesn't mean they're necessarily hiding. Remember, the media world revolves around NYC, LA and Washington DC. If you aren't in any of these places then you won't be covered. We know Weinstein can only be in the states of NY and CT because that's part of the terms of his bail. And Spacey can be just about anywhere. Also, remember that these people have been "de-platformed" so they won't be seen on any shows, movies, red carpets, award shows, etc. and they've been cut out of the entertainment business circles. Hell, when's the last time we saw Mario Batali?? This is what the #metoo world is going to look like for those accused. Unless one of those guys is dying for a comeback (i.e. Louis CK) they probably won't be seen again.

Also, I have known people who live in gated communities & wealthier enclaves in places outside of the LA-NYC-DC bubble. They tend to let celebrities stay private & let them be. You won't find people that have their camera phones out in the ready to send photos to TMZ. It doesn't work that way. Everyone in those towns are rich, famous or not, and they ALL want to stay private. So don't expect photos of any of those guys if they're not in the location bubble.

Yeah blame the woman for some fucked up shit from a man. How refreshing and new.

Harvey will come back to Hollywood via an apology tour?

How do you apologize for several hundred charges of sexual deviancy, rape, and general unlawful misbehavior ???

Meryl attacking Disney who she did not know or even meet - that's OK.

But we are to think that attack is just fine, but that Meryl's claim of ignorance of the well known behavior of a man she worked with and called "God", yeah sure we should just take her word on her ignorance.

Ignorance on someone she knew well, but full of knowledge about someone she didn't know.

Yeah, she's a hypocrite.

Streep's as phony as the rest of them.

She's an actress. She plays to her fan base.

You will never see her take a position that will alienate her from her fans or TPTB whom she depends upon for employment.

It's because illuminati something something child pedophile ring?

Rose is full of shit. She doesn't know anything but her own drugged out "reality." She is a grifter.

Didn't G admit to having heard the rumors?

"several hundred charges of sexual deviancy, rape, and general unlawful misbehavior ???"

nope, you're projecting. Not facts. And "several hundred" is wishful thinking. Not even close.

Harvey admits there was lots of sex and it was understood to be in exchange for jobs. Maybe not noble but hardly unusual in the movie business. Any rape charges seem to be going out the window. We're talking actresses here. The worst.

I remain a fan. We got to see a lot of great films thanks to him, especially in a world of comic book bullshit.

The problem for Harvey and Spacey is they were serial sexual abusers that were finally outed. People knew Harvey was a creepy bully who traded sex for parts but a rapist? That was not well known. Elder and powerful women only saw the suck up side of him. Hollywood barely forgave Mel Gibson for being a Jew hater. I personally think it’s good to ostracize the Harvey predators like James Franco. He should be in jail for abuse and underage sex.

Isn't this ME TOO bullshit over with? It's so passé. Keep the movement, just shut the fuck up when it comes to your personal life

R111, but James Franco is still working. Unlike Harvey or Spacey he wasn't shut out of the industry.

r62

Ah, the analogy is totally 100% apt. You are the stupid one to suggest they are unrelated. Both analogies give reasons why people fail to see behaviours that in hindsight should be easily spotted. It's simply as case of "not seeing the forest for the trees," another analogy you will undoubtedly fail to understand.

Maybe I should tell the cat and have the cat explain it to you. 'Cause the cat's going to get it.

Franco has been blocked from landing any major roles since the press went out to the public that he was a dick.

R115 - I agree. Franco can still work but its going to be a uphill battle for him. It'll be supporting parts only for a while.

R112 - MeToo won't really be over until Trump leaves office. I think because of the movement, people will now come forward with reports of harassment & assault much sooner. But I do think that the media attention to it will continue to decline unless another big name gets dropped. Now, the talk in Hollywood is gender pay equality.

I can't stand Meryl Streep any more. I'm done with her. Bye, Felicia. What a fake fucking cunt she is.

No one besides right winger cunts care about this.

Hardly. This shit is pure Left. Madness.

"MeToo won't really be over until Trump leaves office"

True dat. Daddy issues.

Not defending Streep, but Rose is in no position to be calling anyone out. Her historical revisionism is jaw-dropping.

When #whywomendontreport was trending, she tweeted "because my boyfriend sold our movie to my rapist", referring to Robert Rodriguez and Grindhouse. It later emerged that Rose and Rodriguez had planned to sell Weinstein the movie from the very beginning. Not only that, but the pair later went back to Weinstein in 2008/9 to pitch him another movie - a remake of Barbarella (intended to be a vehicle for Rose). Miramax (wisely) didn't think Rose was enough of a box office draw, so the movie was scrapped. Rose promptly dumped Rodriguez, got some awful plastic surgery, and her career was pretty much over.

During this time, how much thought exactly did she give to the women Weinstein was doubtless harassing?

Rose is literally a woman-hating loon. If she didn’t pick fights with women or drop more famous names of women she has never met and never will, we wouldn’t even be talking about her.

r123 nails it. Rose is basically a misogynist.

R39 I agree. McGowan, for whatever reason, keeps zeroing in on Meryl Streep when many, many, many people knew about Weinstein. Including people who had the power to stop him. McGowan herself "knew" about Weinstein proceeded to collect a sex-figure check from him and said and did nothing until the MeToo movement became hip and then all of a sudden McGowan became a "victim".

I think McGowan knows that if she uses Streep's name that she will get press coverage. That's all.

R50 We can blame Manson if we want but I think the real culprit is McGowan's willingness to trade sexual favors for crappy film parts. Otherwise I cannot picture McGowan getting anywhere at all in Hollywood. Not based on looks, not based on likability, not based on sex appeal and certainly not based on talent, unless she was willing to go the casting couch route.

Has Rose ever truly expressed any genuine sadness over Jill Messick's demise? Have Rose or her pea brain fanbase ever expressed remorse for helping to push Messick over the edge?

Rose’s point is that Streep had a lot of clout and respect in Hollywood, and would have been believed if she called out Weinstein on his bad behavior.

However, I think Meryl Streep, like most rational people... assumed that most normal, intelligent, educated, professional, adult women are capable of making their own decisions about their personal safety and sexual activity with men.

Delusional Rose, however, is a perpetual victim and somehow believes Meryl Streep is responsible for her personal safety and protection and oversight of her sex life.

Well said R127

Looks like Rose The Brave is only sensitive to her own feelings...

Shameless, McGowan is shameless. Guess she couldn't come up with a good Victim Face so she went with Crazy Face.

"I think she's a lie."

Love all of her completely self-serving answers.

#Metoo and Harvey Weinstein are all that Rose has.

She has no other accomplishments or career to speak of.

She’s going to milk this for every cent and every second of publicity she can get.

Well Rose knew too, opted to accept hush money and didn't say anything for years.

Why is this idiot still blaming women?

R133 And as a member of Jill Messick's family pointed out, McGowan continued to work with Weinstein after she received a six-figure settlement from him.

That CNN interview. Purely self-serving. Christiane Amanpour had to hate doing this interview. McGowan comes across as a liar.

r134 They were right to point that out.

Below is a photo of Rose with the monster (her word for him) at the Amfar gala in Cannes, 2005, held during the festival. The gala was hosted by Harvey. She didn't have a film in competition that year, which meant she flew half way across the world to attend an event hosted by a man she claims raped her. Give that some thought.

here is Rose posing outside the gala. The same gala she flew across the globe to attend, most likely on her own dime. The same same gala hosted by a man she claims raped her.

Yes - many people in Hollywood knew about this. But M has benefited more than anyone....and is a role model to all young actresses. If she doesn't take a stand - who should?

Check the posts immediately before yours r138. You think M should fall on her sword...for that??

R139 for every Rose, I'm sure there are 100 truly deserving victims.

There were many, many Roses r140. I'm sure there were many deserving victims, but not at the ratio of 1:100

R126 no she has not. Many of these sjw arm chair warriors are very particular about whose pain gets compassion and whose suffering is ignored. Victims of sexual misconduct are considered "special ", and anything they do wrong is excused because they suffered through "bad touch ". I've never bought this bullshit narrative pushed in American culture that the pain of women like Rose is automatically worse than anyone else 's trauma. Things like mental illness or physical abuse , bullying, or poverty can do way more damage than being groped once. Funny how the Oh so compassionate media couldn't care less about how Rose helped push Jill to suicide with her scapegoating and lies.

Thank you for saying this r142.

I have been sexually harassed, groped, etc. I can't comment for anyone else, but personally I found non-sexual psychological bullying to be far more traumatic.

Rose was for sale and Harvey has now experienced the old " buyer beware" adage.

r129 holy shit that was a disturbing video of Rose. The way her fans cheered her on was creepy. She shows a lack of empathy and has no self-awareness at all. I've done mental health support for people struggling with drug addiction and dependency and in that video, it looks like drug fueled rage, totally inappropriate and classless.

I am sad to see people here give Crazy Rose any attention. She is milking her baseless allegations solely to get attention. She also seems like a pawn now for right wing nut jobs that want to blame old women for all their problems, which were/are actually caused by men. The blame women culture is so tired.

PS, Streep was the first major celebrity to call out Trump. She didn't know Harvey was raping women anymore than you did. Those were NDA's. I'm sorry if she criticized Walt Disney for being a bigot, but you have got to get over your adolescence.

Of course I didn't know. I just focus on my nominations and the rest of the world just goes about its business without me involved. I don't even know what we are talking about now.

R139 Yes.

No one cares about Rose. This is just another tired M and G thread. Florals for Spring? Groundbreaking.

I hear G has been involved with human trafficking. Spread the word.

R136 Personally, I think it's so strange when you take pictures next to your abuser, I believe in Rose but "average" people would never be close to their abusers or travel with them.

To quote Whoopi Goldberg..........it wasn't exactly a rape rape situation with Rose and Harvey.

Wasn't it that they were in a hot tub together and she was on the edge and he swam over and performed oral sex.

Oh man someone has to call Rose out for attending that Gala years after the "rape" occurred when she had no work related reason to be there!

I already know she will say she was desperate for exposure and opportunity and she has mortgages to pay. Much of her rants at times have been about blocked chances and acting opportunities that she has missed out on which translate into millions of dollars.

Truth be told, i can;t understand why she was at cannes that year standing next to "the monster" that picture tells a trillion tales on its own.

R143 Thanks for your input,my experience has been similar. I suspect a lot of people are affected worse mentally by psychological bullying, physical abuse, etc . But it has become a major taboo to suggest that there are worse things than groping /harassment (not that I'm saying sex abuse is OK ). The minute a emotional trauma involves sex, it's automatically considered worse by most people, but the reality is more complex.

She needs professional help

Rose's biggest problem is she has fixated on her sleazy encounter with Harvey as the cause of all her current issues. She's also fixated, bizarrely ,on Meryl for not somehow stopping all this. Unfortunately she won't get better because American culture tells her she doesn't have to.

Yawn......zzzzzzzzz

I can't stand her, I think she may have caused Keanu's friend to lose his baby...or maybe it was his mother, or maybe it was Keanu's himself? I believe there was Hollywood feud between Rose and Jennifer Syme.

The thing is, Meryl does not want to be bothered with that gossipy shit She would take care of herself and she would expect other women to take care of themselves.

Rose is trash who capitalizes off the MeToo movement and uses it for fame and attention because she doesn't get the good roles anymore. Just look at the way she defended Victor Salva in an interview after starring in his movie, Rosewood Lane, in 2011. When asked about his sexual abuse, she said, and I quote, "Yeah, I still don’t really understand the whole story or history there, and I’d rather not, because it’s not really my business. But he’s an incredibly sweet and gentle man, lovely to his crew, and a very hard worker." And she has the nerve to call people out for turning a blind eye to sexual abuse when she did the exact same thing?

Then last year year she goes on The View and says "I accidentally worked with a pedophile," looks at the camera and says "and I bet YOU have TOO!" Acting all defensive because she knows she is a hypocrite.

And then there is how she and her partner completely sold out Asia Argento. They saw dollar signs and pounced on the opportunity to sell text messages with her to the press. Rose threw Asia to the wolves and completely washed her hands of her, and now acts like she never knew her at all. She is a self serving opportunist. The only person Rose M. truly cares about is Rose M.

She could learn a thing or 2 from Paige Matthews.

sex workers can be and are sexually assaulted, raped and abused. but prostitution is not rape.

McGowan throwing Argento to the wolves = A head louse throwing another head louse to another group of head lice.

Meryl Streep is a witch. Literally.

In the world of fake news? Witches are not real. Rose would be nothing without her Meryl Streep obsession.

R166, you and I know that witches are not real. But women who belong to covens of women who self-identify as witches believe that witches are real. Meryl Streep belongs to a literal coven, whether they are real witches or not.

Argento has referred to herself and her mother as witches. Daria Nicolodi wrote Suspiria based on stories told to her by, I believe, her grandmother. So, I imagine Nicolodi's mother was also a witch.

I can only imagine what a Hollywood coven would be like with its "talent pool".

i heard little of rm former manager commiting suicide, lots of collateral damage from the metoo movement.

ie:anthony bourdain

Rose is jealous Streep had a professional relationship with Harvey that was not based on trading sex. If Harvey offered her Barbarella today on the condition that she have sex with him everyday, she would say yes, again. This woman can’t admit that she created her own demise.

r169 you can not blame Anthony Bourdain's death by suicide on the metoo movement. That's absurd. Bourdain had a long history of depression with strong suicidal ideation and the relationship with Argento, arguable a woman with some kind of personality disorder, pushed him over the top.

I killed Bourdain because he said my Italian dish looked like an autopsy. No one gets away with that.

Round of applause for R142

It's hard to know what pushes someone to die by suicide, but it does seem Messick getting caught in Rose's rage pushed her over the edge. Messick had a long history with bi-polar disorder and I can only imagine working in the toxic entertainment business was not good for her illness.

I do believe Rose, but think she's a horrible spokesperson for people who've been sexually assaulted. She has a shit load of unresolved childhood trauma from growing up in a cult and I wonder how much of that is playing into her maladaptive behaviors we see right now.

I don't feel sorry for Rose. It would be one thing if she were helping in a constructive way, but she is milking her "abuse" by Harvey (which sounds consensual) since she has no career. The only reason OP and that link referenced Streep or Clinton is because Rose (again) is using their names for attention. Didn't Rose work with Harvey after he "abused" her? She knew more than other people did about him but said nothing until too late. I think people make excuses for her lame behavior, when she is a liar and forever playing the victim card.

The self-righteousness of this woman is astounding. She thinks she is better than all the other women who also knew, also were victims, also were intimidated but also didn't say anything.

The worse thing about her is that she is blaming women and not the abusers.

R136 And I love how that metal mesh see-through dress that McGowan wore to some award ceremony where she basically might as well as showed up naked is now a "message" and not a ploy to draw attention to herself. Had to be a lot of fun sitting next to her that.

Yes, Messick's family nailed it. Jill Messick, despite being an underling, tried to help McGowan, McGowan knew that an knew Messick would have a different tale to tell so McGowan branded Messick a "liar" and McGowan and her merry band of admirers came for this poor woman.

Streep was probably aware that Weinstein was not Prince Charming but did say that she herself did not see the side to him that others are talking about.

Streep was probably like the rest of us. She was probably trying to sort out who went with Weinstein willingly, like "Rose", and who was an actual victim.

McGowan is a wretched cunt.

She fucked for roles, then decided she was raped.

She took a payoff and kept her whore mouth shut for years.

Now she blames people like Streep who had nothing to do with this bullshit.

Agree R179.

Just an attention whore.

Messick’s assistant stated that Rose wanted to pursue legal action against Harvey, but that everyone around her wanted her to settle. That presumably included Messick herself. And then Messick just happened to get a job with Harvey a few months after the settlement — a total coincidence, I’m sure.

And Rose went on to make more movies with Weinstein r181

Robert Rodriguez calls out Rose's revisionism. Boy had receipts.

Messick was not an attorney. If McGowan wanted to take this to court, as she now very conveniently claims she wanted to, she should have, she had the money to do that.

McGowan took the settlement and took more paychecks from her "monster". Messick's family stated that Messick did all she could and assumed that the situation had been resolved due to McGowan's six-figure settlement and McGowan's continued professional relationship with Weinstein.

It will turn out that McGowan wasn't really seeking "justice" but the biggest pay-out and the most "hush money" she could get.

McGowan's defensiveness, her self-serving answers and her body language during that Amanpour interview indicate that McGowan is lying.

Stop giving it attention.

R181 And I'm sure that McGowan suddenly becoming a rape victim and the pending drug charges against McGowan is purely coincidental as well.

What’s happening with her drug case?? Will she get locked up?

Rodriguez definitely has receipts.

So does Messick's family. Unlike McGowan, the Messicks can back up what they say.

R185 This is the exact type of attention McGowan does not want.

Streep is a self-described Humanist and she does not belong to a coven. McGowan only screeched Streep's name because she that would have the media up in arms.

Here's the fragrant Rose at yet another party hosted by Weinstein. This time the 2007 Weinstein company Golden Globes after party. She couldn't stay away from the guy.

Why are we all calling her "Rose"? She's not our pal.

You can't say her full name on DL r192, it gets you blocked.

Didn't know that Meryl was the rape police.

R191 I don't believe I could be that cheery around my monster rapist.

R193 Oooooh, okay. I understand.

I'll just keep calling her RoMcGo (as in, Ro'? Will you please go now?)

How about just batshit crazy, r84...

Lol, r90...

So SHRILL

Why does she lift her head up like that for photos? She looks like Mary Queen of Scots preparing to be beheaded.

This broad needs to go away for a good long time. She's jumped the shark and doesn't realize that no one really cares what she thinks.

[R199]

In her own way, she's as physically ugly as Harvey.

Her facial fillers are awful.

R199 Because despite all that …"brave"...Rose has been through, and as much as hates people who are phonies and who are "lies", she has not forgotten her media training or the number to her professional makeup artist.

Looking at all of this old footage, my God, this little "brave" one has had some major work done.

Rose is a piece of shit, of course, and needs to stop targeting other women. If she cared this much about women being harrassed she could do a lot more on a grassroots level for those not in Hollywood.

BUT why are we excusing Streep for her tone-deaf comments? She jumped right in, acting in complete self-interest, trying to absolve herself of any sort of responsibility or complicity-by-association (whether or not that's fair), and obviously lying through her teeth. When I was a 15 year old boy living in a small town in Germany I knew about Harvey Weinstein and what he did to women. The Gretchen Mol story was famous (though she still denies it). Are we really going to pretend that the woman who made like 10 films with him, called him 'God', was friendly with her entire family etc., didn't know? Puh lease. McGowan is right. It's literally impossible. Unless Streep is blind and deaf, in which case she's a better actress than I thought.

It's okay to accept that Rose is a disgraceful person and that Streep lied in this situation. Both can be true.

[R205]

You knew what that monster did when you were 15 years old and you stayed silent?????

You're as guilty as that monster and Meryl Streep!

Uh oh R205 You have incurred the wrath of Ro'!

R205 Maybe Streep agreed with Pamela Anderson as far as when a producer says, "Meet me in my hotel room," everyone knows what that means. Streep may have simply panicked when she was publicly attacked by McGowan.

McDowan has really got me PO'ed now that she's maneuvered me into defending Streep, who I absolutely loathe....

People on a set know who shit-stained a toilet in full detail, so of course they knew, she knew everybody knew and everyone looked the other way because it was convenient to them or because they were threatened by his power. They do the same thing to the pedophile kings. Where's the Esquire piece on Bryan Singer? Bohemian Rhapsody is a hit already, too late to boycott I suppose.

R208 That's probably true, but at the end of the day she still lied. When she didn't have to, because it suited her. And did so with an aggressive 'let's be clear I knew NOTHING' sort of tone.

PS the video of Courtney Love upthread in 2005 warning young actresses about Weinstein is hilarious. She may be insane but she truly knows where all the bodies are buried, so to speak, and seems unfiltered enough to let it slip to us.

R211 Oh Ms. McGowan! Now you are spending time on DL? You're screamin' into a fan here honey.

Streep didn't lie about anything. She said she knew rumors that Harvey was a womanizer but nothing about rapes or NDA's. She admits she was clueless, but to blame her for Harvey's private actions is pointless and seems unfair. Streep is an actress, not his wife. Rose perpetuates this kind of hatred towards women, and she is always attacking other women for not doing enough, etc. In our culture, women are always attacked as the cause of men's actions. It's pathetic Rose uses bigger names like Streep and Hillary to get attention! I hope they eventually sue her for libel.

Exactly R213

R213 Jesus... Nobody is blaming Meryl for Harvey attacking and raping women. I never said that. But she lied. Re-read her statement, there is nothing about 'knowing he was a womaniser but not NDAs'.She keeps saying the word 'nothing'. "I knew nothing in the 90s, I know nothing now". Tries to play it off as them having little association, with him simply "marketing" her movies and them only having ever met in his office once for Music of the Heart (maybe the least believable part of all). But then goes on a weird tangent about how he needed Meryl more than she needed him, and how he specifically hired ex-Mossad bodyguards to keep the information from her. How did she know about that, then? :/

If you want to believe she was clueless and knew nothing? Good for you, enjoy that fantasy. But Meryl is way too smart to be acting that dumb.

I agree that what Rose is doing is awful. In fact I criticised her in my post first.

R215 Oh puh-lease!

Notice Rose has never thanked or even acknowledged Courtney Love as the only person to ever publicly call out Weinstein.

That is true R217. It would appear that the "brave" feminist and self-proclaimed victim's advocate seems to have some serious issues with other women.

Could it be? No! It couldn't be! Could it be...that Rose is only in this for herself???

[quote]the "brave" feminist and self-proclaimed victim's advocate

Such an advocate... taking a payoff and then keeping her mouth shut.

She’s complicit.

Is Rose working with Harvey? All she is doing is taking the focus off of him. What is her proof that these women knew about rape or NDA's? None. Is she claiming they should have known? I don't get her crazy rants. Streep offered to talk to her but Rose was too chicken shit to call her. That tells you everything.

R219 Agree. Ro' was complicit, seemingly, until authorities found cocaine in her luggage. Then she magically became a victim.

Very well said R83. A lot of truth in that post.

That R131 video. McGowan is creepy. She really is. Her bully-girl attitude toward people trying to interview her. Answering questions with questions. Her fake face, her terrible acting.

"These are very powerful people you are talking about."

RM: "They are. But so am I."

Cue the scary music!!!

I don't believe people are shaking in their shoes over McGowan's need for attention. She comes across as nothing more than a liar.

Whatever happened to the little "brave" one's television show?

It would appear that Rose is done being a brave hero and is now off to London to paint pictures.

Looks like Rose wants out of the MeToo movement.

Wonder if Rose will ever come back from London. She is expected to face those pesky drug charges in January.

But do not get the idea that Rose suddenly becoming a sexual assault victim has anything at all to with drug charges she knew were hanging over her ugly head.

R22, uh, no. Those are gross generalizations by the Church Lady. Still waiting for Rose’s evidence.

Everyone has been waiting for Rose's evidence for a long time R127.

Jobs in Hollywood in exchange for sexual favors and murky misdeeds in Hollywood?? Thank goodness Rose came along because all along the world thought Hollywood was a place of virtue.

Rose? Why are going to paint pretty pictures in your flat while waiting for your fillers to start to dissolve when you could be out saving all of woman-kind from monsters?

Give me a break, you can't take gossip to the cops. The only people to go to the cops...those attacked. Some of you are just ignorant freaks. Grow up.

R230 Rose, please stop trolling this thread. (Are you that bored with your life honey?)

What is she looking to get from all this? Meryl was not responsible for Harvey Weinstein's malfeasances; it would be like blaming Jeffrey Dahmer's co-workers for his crimes.

I think she's run out of things to say and is attacking Meryl because she knows she's over. Harvey is in big trouble and is awaiting trial--there's the end of that story.

R231, you are truly an ignorant fool. Meryl Streep had no need to report Harvey...he did not attack her.

People like Rose tend to paint themselves into corners they can't get out of.

What an interesting turn of events.

Everyone KNEW. Folks chose to look the other way because they didn’t want to rock the boat. Or compromise their position on the food chain. Snitches get stitches, but in Hollywood they get blackballed. Only now that brave folks who have nothing to lose have come forward are people talking. Why didn’t anyone say something before?

She scapegoated her manager Jill Messick, who committed suicide after RM unleashed her crazy white knights on her. So sick of sexual abuse victims acting like they and only they have suffered in life. And it's not like RM is perfect either, she worked with salva after all.

Well, if batshit crazy Rose said it, then it must be true...

I know he never touched G

Meryl Streep will be exposed.

Wanna bet, r240?