They've got five kids, two of which have autism.
DL Catnip: Airline denies boarding to family with autistic kid having a 'meltdown'
|by Anonymous||reply 128||10/20/2018|
Kill all the burdensome defects. Including me.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||10/10/2018|
Someone posted about that autistic kid who went missing in a park with his Dad.
The poster used the word "dud" and I about pissed myself. Can't find that sleuthing thread. Anyone?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||10/10/2018|
Of course they have five kids and two artistics. Of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||10/10/2018|
Maybe he needs an emotional support squirrel
|by Anonymous||reply 4||10/10/2018|
[quote]“Don’t say, ‘Oh, look at that autistic kid crying. He’s going to ruin this whole flight. Let’s not even let him on,’” she said.
No. Look at that kid having a meltdown, he's going to ruin the whole flight. The airline absolutely did the right thing. I hope the other passengers clapped and cheered.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||10/10/2018|
I haven't read the article, but it sounds like a situation where the parents should only be using ground transportation because of the children, but decided that they would use air travel anyway, everyone else be damned.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||10/10/2018|
Can't they just ship the kid via UPS or something?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||10/10/2018|
Potential greatness thread
|by Anonymous||reply 8||10/10/2018|
[bold]NO FANK YOU[/bold]
|by Anonymous||reply 9||10/10/2018|
If his packet of pretzels was brokened, it could have been like Airport '75 up there.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||10/10/2018|
What this likely means is the parents and other kids are aspies. Stop breeding, you retarts. Stop inflicting yourselves on the rest of us. Only tragedy here would be if that spectrum free flight crashed.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||10/10/2018|
They had "practiced" beforehand, which went well. However, on the actual date of departure, one of the autistic kids had a breakdown, an the airline agent refused to allow the family onboard, citing that they could cause a nuisance to the other passengers.
The disappointed family hopes the other siblings won't resent their panicky brother for ruining their vacation plans, since the airline wouldn't consider alternative options for them flying some other way.
[Quote]On Sept. 24, more than a week before their trip, 5-year-old Milo and 2-year-old Ollie went through a mock scenario at the airport, practicing the process of going through security and boarding a plane.
[Quote]The practice session was done so that when the day came to begin their vacation, boarding would be familiar and would, hopefully, go off without a hitch. However, what happened next didn’t go as planned.
[Quote]During boarding, the Halkuffs said, Milo had a meltdown right before getting on the plane.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||10/10/2018|
[quote] two of which have autism.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||10/10/2018|
Have a kid with autism and choose to have another...then decide to travel by airline? Seems like some bad desicion making.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||10/10/2018|
Why don't we start taxing those that breed rather than rewarding it with tax deductions? Like the world needs another billion entitled mouths?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||10/10/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 16||10/10/2018|
For the first time in 15 years I salute airline staff.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||10/10/2018|
The airline should have whipped out a private jet for the little dears.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||10/10/2018|
The father who seems nice is an aspie extraordinaire. Put on some shoes as you're being recorded for posterity! Imagine the germs this hoard loads?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||10/10/2018|
The mother said that the gate agent wasn't understanding. It looks like the agent understood very well what the problem was and handled it appropriately.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||10/10/2018|
You just don't understand how difficult it is to be a parent at times
|by Anonymous||reply 21||10/10/2018|
Couldn't they just stuff him in an overhead bin like United did with that dog?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||10/10/2018|
Prior to leaving for the airport, just dump some Children's Benadryl in a Slurpee. Then give it to the little freaks. Problem solved.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||10/10/2018|
R23 When I was young it was Brandy in the Sippy Cup
|by Anonymous||reply 24||10/10/2018|
I know that sometimes people *have* to travel with kids and it’s a nightmare for all concerned. If your child is so disturbed by the hurly burly of an airport you should drive. Don’t subject your children to that stress if they can’t cope and don’t subject the rest of the travelling world to your child’s behavior. We know it’s not his choice to have a meltdown but you need to contain that within the surroundings of your car where there are no people he doesn’t know, loud noises, crowds etc. Stop making everyone else responsible for your family and stop forcing other people to have to deal with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||10/10/2018|
R24 For me, it was the threat of a sound beating, for acting up in public. I do understand you cant beat these types of kids, but for Pete's sake, just drive the beasts to wherever they had planned on going. Perhaps even plan a vacation near home, if you know you cant control them.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||10/10/2018|
R26, what types of kids can be beaten?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||10/10/2018|
The autism spectrum, scourge of Europe. Specifically Germany, Austria (home of Dr. Hans Asperger, no surprise) and Eastern European satellites. When German language classes let out of my high school the halls would be inundated with the peculiar, freaky kids.
Cut to their fb accounts some 20 years later and practically all of them had autism awareness postings. I mean, what did you think you would have, stable geniuses, you stuck up freaks?
That blue colored porch light lit for autism awareness day. The "blue retart light" shining like a beacon at the homes of those who readily admit to failure.
The father in this news link seems a good man but really had no business procreating not only two but 5 kids! Come on.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||10/10/2018|
Take vacations that you can drive too. You have two kids that are mentally unwell and struggle to behave themself, and you want to lock those two on an airplane with everyone else?!
|by Anonymous||reply 29||10/10/2018|
Well R27, as per a recent study, it turns out all kids can be beaten, however some kids should not be beaten. In a blind study, conducted by scientists at The Better Beater Institute in Dayton, OH. The non-retarded kids absorbed the lesson of a sound beating, better than their retarded counterparts.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||10/10/2018|
Let's be honest, those parents hate their lives and hate everyone not as miserable as they are. Hence, forcing their often full grown, squealing, incontinent offspring on others, in an enclosed area.
Misery yearns for company.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||10/10/2018|
I would have sympathy if it was a funeral, medical appointment, wedding or some important event that was across the country and they needed to fly.
But it was just a vacation, it was their decision to try to force them on an airplane.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||10/10/2018|
This isn’t an accommodation like letting wheelchair users board first or reserving two seats for an obese person. This is an uncontrollable, tantrum throwing, crying child whose parents want to “wait and see” if he’ll calm down after the plane takes off. That’s an unfair burden and unreasonable accomodation to force on other passengers.
Maybe there’s a business opportunity here for an enterprising parent of a screaming child or someone who needs unusual support animals on flights. They could start Understanding Airlines - the airline that understands that unique individuality comes before passenger comfort and safety. They could corner the market on transporting noisy, uncontrollable children and oversized or biting animals.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||10/10/2018|
Richard Branson & Jeff Bezos need to team up & start an adults-only airline.
The back third of each plane is sealed off from the rest & has unlimited booze, smoking & porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||10/10/2018|
34 replies, and not ONE snarky comment about this family's beyond questionable choice of vacation destination, Kansas City?!?!
Who on earth chooses to go on vacation in Kansas City?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||10/10/2018|
Also, per Google maps, it takes only eight hours to drive from Dallas to Kansas City.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||10/10/2018|
I was just about to post the same thing, R36. That was my reaction when this report aired last week here in Dallas.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||10/10/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 38||10/10/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 39||10/10/2018|
The thing I really don't understand is where all of this came from--I distinctly remember no autism when I was a child--maybe polio braces (I wore corrective shoes) or an iron lung here or there but none of this assholeishness . . . I haven't decided if it's real or not . . . polio, that's real . . .
|by Anonymous||reply 40||10/10/2018|
How come we have austistic children crawling all over the place now? There used to be simply the insufferable and over indulged kids back then.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||10/10/2018|
Nope. Rent a damn van and drive your family if you've got more than one kid who might have a meltdown. I don't think anyone should fly with 5 normal kids to be honest. I'd pay more to be on a plane with no kids. I can't tell you the number of times I see bratty kids sitting in first or business. Fuck that. I think it should be 18 and over in First and Business. Kids should be as far in the back as possible and group them all together.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||10/10/2018|
Older fathers are more likely to have autistic kids r41. The average age of fatherhood is much higher these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||10/10/2018|
People are no longer allowed to smoke on planes but...
Boycott United and never forget
|by Anonymous||reply 44||10/10/2018|
R40, they existed but this freak put the onus on mothers labeling them "Refrigerator Moms". There's a documentary online. Big backlash.
People, dismiss nebish, peculiar psych twats like this freak and Freud. Projecting their odd cultural beliefs on the rest of us. Never visit a psych like this. See an NP for scripts and counseling. Avoid strange outcasts with foreign degrees from India while you're at it. Avoid at all costs.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||10/10/2018|
I think people forget how important it is to fund and maintain long distance public transportation for normal middle class and above passengers.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||10/10/2018|
DRIVE, YOU FUCKERS!!
How is your screaming, tantrum-throwing, uncontrollable child any different from some drunk, belligerent adult who would, without question, be denied boarding????
|by Anonymous||reply 47||10/10/2018|
I certainly don't want those window lickers on my flight.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||10/10/2018|
Sad in some ways but it is more than likely the kids are too young to fly yet period.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||10/10/2018|
Wait, are you all saying they should have driven? Got it the first 12 times, you boring, repetitive fuckers.
This is one boring thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||10/10/2018|
Then make it interesting --but then again you have no skills to do so.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||10/10/2018|
There's nothing essentially interesting about this thread to begin with, r51, you dumb fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||10/10/2018|
I just can't get over people having five kids in this day and age.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||10/10/2018|
R25- Ditto- "Stop making everyone else responsible for your family and stop forcing other people to have to deal with it."
The family had other options and why should passengers have to deal with it? If they were so unsure of what the kid would do that they had to try a "practice" run, then that should have been the first clue that they needed to find a better alternative. Not just for the other passengers, but why put the kid through that kind of stress too?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||10/10/2018|
Why is the 5 year old still using a baby stroller?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||10/10/2018|
He's autistic. They probably use it to contain him.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||10/10/2018|
R40 I work for a school board and I wonder this as well, but let's face it... before "inclusion" became a thing, I'm sure most of these severely autistic/disabled children were institutionalized and/or in special schools.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||10/10/2018|
[quote]R33 This is an uncontrollable, tantrum throwing, crying child whose parents want to “wait and see” if he’ll calm down after the plane takes off.
AND if it had been an adult undergoing a meltdown at the boarding gate, they would not have been allowed on the plane, either.
The one mishandled thing sounds like the airline not letting the mom and 4 other boys take the flight while the dad went home with the shrieking mongoloid. BUT maybe the whole drama had taken up so much TIME at that point it was time for takeoff, and there was no time to sort it all out?
Anyway....now the family knows they can’t all fly as a group in future. Split up. Or better yet don’t fly at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||10/10/2018|
Fuck you with your smoking r34. Just fuck you.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||10/10/2018|
I'll bet ten bucks there are also peanut allergies in that family.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||10/10/2018|
"“Don’t say, ‘Oh, look at that autistic kid crying. He’s going to ruin this whole flight. Let’s not even let him on,’” she said."
Why on Earth not?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||10/10/2018|
This thread reminded me of a similar incident over the summer: what happened with the case of the gay asshole owner of L.A.’s The Abbey, where he and his male friend were bumped from their over-sold flight? Any updates on that?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||10/10/2018|
Wow, The @ B b e y is a censored word?
The webmasters here certainly are a curious bunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||10/10/2018|
r63 I can see it in r62.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||10/10/2018|
THANK YOU, R35
The saddest part of this story is that they were taking a vacation to Kansas City.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||10/10/2018|
Their lounge is poorly furnished and contains little art or decoration portraying personality of any kind. The mother is a mug cradling frau with sloppy genes
|by Anonymous||reply 66||10/10/2018|
I bet these kids are home-schooled.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||10/10/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 68||10/10/2018|
Thank God for some sanity, keeping a noisy a-hole off the plane.
We would EVER SO MUCH rather be on a flight with that old fish and her squirrel (or 10 of them) than with screaming crotch droppings.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||10/10/2018|
"before 'inclusion' became a thing, I'm sure most of these severely autistic/disabled children were institutionalized and/or in special schools."
Indeed they were, r57, and special schools are where they belong. But the institutions were awful places where they tied kids to beds and locked them in cages. I can't even imagine the nightmare of having to deal with a severely autistic child, and having to decide what you can and can't do with them.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||10/10/2018|
Well, I can understand this. You don't want any raging maniacs at 30 thousand feet. Whether they are kids or not, doesn't make any difference. Ultimately it is the responsibility of the parents to make sure their kids don't become a danger to others.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||10/10/2018|
The airline made the right decision.
Also, choosing to have yet another kid after you already have multiple children including one autistic/special needs one should be considered a criminal act.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||10/11/2018|
the airline companies are complete Nazis. Do not believe anything they say.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||10/11/2018|
How about these idiots stop breeding? That would end it.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||10/11/2018|
Do they still hand out bags of peanuts on flights? We used to be a sturdier bunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||10/11/2018|
Sometimes you just gotta pack up the car and drive.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||10/11/2018|
[quote] The saddest part of this story is that they were taking a vacation to Kansas City.
Now THIS is a DL comment!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||10/11/2018|
They should offer a mandatory glass of Nyquil to every kid at preflight
|by Anonymous||reply 78||10/11/2018|
My father had dementia in his later years. I had to get them from Chicago to New York. Odds were he would freak out on an airplane. So I rented a car and drove him. Better for everyone. These parents are selfish and stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||10/11/2018|
Why didn't they just drive? KC is not that far from Dallas. Also it seems that American went out of their way to accommodate them with the practice run through security and boarding. Perhaps they would be happy with a private plane just for their family?
|by Anonymous||reply 80||10/11/2018|
[quote] I just can't get over people having five kids in this day and age.
Narcissism and/or degenerate religion are typically the causes of excessive filth-brats.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||10/11/2018|
[quote]Why didn't they just drive? KC is not that far from Dallas.
It's only an 8-hour drive to KC, MO.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||10/11/2018|
So do they get a refund for the tickets? What about for the hotel? A lot of sites like Priceline or Hotwire don't offer refunds.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||10/11/2018|
Well, this is all pretty much moot because in twenty years those little freaks are going to either drown or get trampled in a climate related incident.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||10/11/2018|
Sure, this is just about one flight but can you imagine having these people in your extended family? Every family event would devolve into a shitshow because the parents won’t control the kids. they “don’t want to impose societal pressures on their creative spirits”. Every family group picture shows the rational relatives — and then this family with the wild children. Family relations would be strained when one of the aunts asks innocently enough if there was something they could do to help these children and their stressed out parents. The accomplishments of all of their other cousins would be put down because, well, they just don’t have the same challenges as Ollie and Milo. Family events would be so damn stressful that family members drift apart because they’d prefer not to attend one more GD event where these kids have meltdowns. The dad would be blissfully unaware of what the kids were doing in public because he’d always be having in-depth conversations about how corporate greed was impacting hemp farmers. Finally, the kids would grow up and move away never to see their parents again because they had “a bad childhood”. Even though the rest of the family did everything to accommodate their no red dye, no nuts, no gluten, no polyester, no plastics, no dairy lifestyle it was never enough. The “special” kids move away. The rest of the family? They’re not talking to each because of that one event where Uncle Sal rescued the wild child who was just about to be scalded by hot coffee in a restaurant — but his mother didn’t want anyone else touching her child and demanded that everyone pick either her side or Uncle Sal’s side.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||10/11/2018|
Autistic children's meltdowns are quite unpredictable. God forbid the kid or even both kids got out of their seats and wouldn't sit down. Screeching and screaming can last hours. For once, the airline made the right call. To be on a plane everyone needs to understand and obey the safety rules.
Why do parents make their kids' issues everyone else's problem and expect special accommodation? Good Lord, the airline even did a practice run with them. Wow.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||10/11/2018|
Wait--has anyone asked why they didn't just drive?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||10/11/2018|
They should be able to fly on the plane- as long as they're duct-taped to their seats, they're gagged, and wearing hockey masks to keep them from biting or spitting on other passengers.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||10/11/2018|
R85 Nailed it. You just described my extended family. Overcompensating and special accommodations endlessly. No one wants to be around those kids because of the screaming and screeching while the now divorced parents do nothing to discipline or calm them. Their parents only indulge them. It's very sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||10/11/2018|
Honestly, with the way automation technology is headed, we should start providing tax incentive to childless people, and put more of the tax burden on people with children. Those taxes are going to be needed to subsidize universal income.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||10/11/2018|
R80 Actually, yeah. If pressed, I'll bet the parents would have loved to have American fly them there on their very own flight. It would go viral on social media, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||10/11/2018|
DL (as represented by this thread) seems to be confused as to whether these children are merely the offspring of special snowflakes who allow their children to behave as they wish, or "retards", "mongloid" etc. (So very edgy, we all agree.) The distinguishing factor would seem to be class, with the real autistics assumed to be in the lower income bracket. Whereas the "special snowflake" class deserve mild derision, everyone else deserves instant death. They really shouldn't go around being all vulnerable.
The situation was unfortunate, but the airline doubtless did all it reasonably could to accommodate the family.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||10/11/2018|
On Autism. You might hurt yourself laughing
|by Anonymous||reply 93||10/11/2018|
Lock then UP Lock them UP
|by Anonymous||reply 94||10/11/2018|
R75 Southwest has stopped serving peanuts. I don't know about the rest.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||10/11/2018|
You want airlines to be able to turn away passengers who may make the flight unpleasant? Fine make the industry support itself.
As long as they are being subsidized and protected by the Federal government I think you have to let a screaming kid on the plane.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||10/11/2018|
All the more reason to have child-free zones on planes.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||10/11/2018|
It was so much better 30 years ago when only nice people could afford to fly.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||10/11/2018|
In my college psychology class we were required to spend part of a day visiting a state mental hospital; I will forever remember the adult profoundly mentally retarded ward--it shook me to my core, and still does, recalling it. I also have a special relationship with that facility as I was born there . . . I was OK, and adopted out, and have tested at the Mensa level. I've never shared this because especially in the town/region I came from, it was/is a notorious place for the most unfortunate. As those upthread have remarked, things WERE different years ago, and these children would have at the very least been in special education classes, if not institutionalized. That said, not every facility of the era was NOT a snakepit--I am an outstanding example of that. Which is to say I have severe doubts about the authenticity of "autisim", and the industry that has been built up to support it.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||10/11/2018|
R99 Oh honey, we all doubt it.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||10/11/2018|
I get why the airline didn't want the kid on the flight, but the news report said the parents said that the husband would go home with the kid and the mother would travel with the other kids. I don't get why the airline refused to allow them to do that.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||10/11/2018|
"Three generation of imbeciles is enough!"
|by Anonymous||reply 102||10/11/2018|
Read Temple Grandin's bio. Her mother forced her to learn how to behave in socially acceptable ways. The autism community shuns her and believes those methods are brutish. But Grandin is a PhD with a very successful business and had Claire Danes play her in a movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||10/11/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 104||10/11/2018|
Grandin is high functioning. Not everyone with autism can learn to be socially appropriate, and even those who can find it massively difficult.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||10/11/2018|
[quote]R101 the parents said that the husband would go home with the kid and the mother would travel with the other kids. I don't get why the airline refused to allow them to do that.
That is confusing, but I imagine either 1.) time had run out to make those new arrangements (the kids really should have boarded on the first call, with other special needs customers), or 2.) the parents misunderstood and could have split up, or 3.) the parents are lying, trying to paint the airline in as villainous a light as possible.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||10/11/2018|
Adult or child, you can't have people freaking out while they fly around in a tin can in the sky, trapped with other people.
If someone can't control themselves they can't be guaranteed a seat on a flight.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||10/11/2018|
One DLer upthread suggested some entrepreneur start an airline called Understanding Air, where the parents could fly in the presence of other parents with challenging children and not have to worry about tantrums, etc.
Can you imagine? Try to find servers for that flying pit of hell! And not only that, parents without a sympathetic audience who swathed you with "I don't know where you find the patience! You are a SAINT!!!" WOULD NEVER fly understanding air. They want nice quiet environs to pollute.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||10/11/2018|
"Which is to say I have severe doubts about the authenticity of "autisim", and the industry that has been built up to support it. "
You and half the Datalounge! I don't mean the hopeless cases that are institutionalized because they can't learn to function normally, I mean all the awkward boys who are labeled as "autism spectrum" and the industry built around "providing for their special needs" rather than just teaching them how the fuck to behave.
As for the family splitting up, if you were the airline gate people, would you let a second child who's known to behave that way on board? Gawd, I don't know why the parents thought getting their kids into a crowded confined space wouldn't be a problem, it's not like they let raving schizophrenics onto airplanes without a quibble.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||10/11/2018|
This is what they were trying to avoid, and rightly so.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||10/11/2018|
I doubt the mother's account that the other passengers were strolling by and offering to help. Most people would be grumbling that they hope they weren't seated near the screaming kind and wondering why they couldn't get the kid to shut the hell up. It's also interesting that the dad called to ask "what the airline could do for them." They knew they had a problem on their hands and were expecting special accommodations.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||10/11/2018|
Bringing a violently autistic child on an airplane with others is not a social experiment I wish to be a part of.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||10/11/2018|
They could have a beautiful staycation by driving to their local strip mall and pretending it is Kansas City.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||10/11/2018|
R99, did you take something?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||10/11/2018|
R110 that is my worst nightmare come true. How long is the flight from Germany to New Jersey???
|by Anonymous||reply 115||10/11/2018|
R115 Remember the thread by the guy incensed that his partner (who was afraid of flying) shrieked when they hit some turbulence?
Imagine how HE’D have reacted to that child!
|by Anonymous||reply 116||10/11/2018|
When a child screams on a plane — try screaming back.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||10/11/2018|
There are three environments in america where you have to behave yourself: Airports/planes, around cops, In an ER. It's not too much to ask
|by Anonymous||reply 118||10/12/2018|
r118, cops are generally bullies. You're saying you have to behave yourself because they're thug authority figures.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||10/12/2018|
^^ is the ghost of St Michael Brown
|by Anonymous||reply 120||10/12/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 121||10/12/2018|
r119 why not both? That's been my experience.
The DoJ investigation, which included AAs in senior positions, backed the officer (as did the forensics). Brown was suicide by cop.
So was Sammy Yatim, but the officer was charged & convicted (rightly) on the excessive use of force, not the fact that he shot.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||10/12/2018|
r109 has it. The other child, the two year old, was also "autistic". After they saw the parents' clueless reactions, they wouldn't let the other child board.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||10/12/2018|
Absurd to take a severely autistic child on a plane. Quite honestly, it’s cruel too.... the cops should have been called for child abuse.
Why are parents of these autistics constantly testing their limits?? The most abusive parents I know are my brother and his fool wife who seem to LOVE dragging their special needs child to every event they can, and then watching him have meltdowns, toilet himself and bang his head on the floor due to frustration and fear. The worst I ever saw was when they tried to drag him on a boat and the child was sobbing, screaming, fighting and clinging to stay on the dock. I mean for gods sake he can’t swim, can barely speak, can barely communicate but he had the good sense to know that perhaps a confined, fast moving boat on open water was not going to be an ideal sensory experience for him.
Some of these kids are smarter than you think.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||10/12/2018|
Dataloungers here remind me of Lisa Kudrow's character of "Fiona Wallice" on Web Therapy, who doesn't believe that alcoholism is a "real disease" or that there's really such a thing as ADD. Of course she's playing an asshole for laughs and pointing out the absurdity of such "beliefs," whereas here they're just real-life assholes. It's tiresome and amusing at the same time.
All that said, yes, the burden should not be on those other passengers to put up with a screaming, flailing child. I've been on planes with screaming, crying babies and I feel the same way about them, but unless you're prepared to go the Paul Lynde route and say, "If you don't shut that kid up, I'm gonna fuck it," generally putting up with horribly annoying people is part of life. Clearly, exceptions need to be made for the sanity and well-being of everyone, and a disruptive child to this degree of disturbed shouldn't be allowed on the plane. The parents seemed to understand that much.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||10/13/2018|
Trump is aspies. So is kanye.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||10/13/2018|
I really thought the guy in the video at R117 was gonna be the one to scream right back in the face of the screaming kid, but it was someone off-camera. No fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||10/15/2018|
While I agree that the parents in this case were dead wrong and should have driven and been more considerate, I don't appreciate the blatant and ignorant attempt in this thread to "discredit" autism. Don't be an asshole
|by Anonymous||reply 128||10/20/2018|