I am a white bisexual male and I am tired at cheap attempts at representation

This thread is going to be amazing.

I think he's right. Bisexuals are underrepresented. Having representation would mean more would come out.

My pussy stinks.

Also, portraying more bisexual men more positively would lessen the taboo of straight men experimenting with other guys.

Ok, OP, I'll play along and make like you're not a troll just this once. On 'Westworld,' handsome, white, DL Fave Ben Barnes played the bisexual Logan. Of course, the character was a douche and a drug addict, so go ahead and rage about that now.

R5 still something and better than all the other examples.

R5, he barely got any guy action! And he’s still a bad guy. But, it’s better than nothing.

Lucifer is a bisexual. He’s the lead and is hot and hunky.

Name some good white bisexual male characters please, OP.

Captain Jack Harkness on Doctor Who

Get a blog, gurl.

I can’t say I agree with the tone or phrasing of your post OP

But I get mostly what you’re saying....I think. I do think that some productions do, do “double dip diversity” to fill quotas.

On Teen Wolf I really thought for a minute that the Dylan Sprayberry character was going to be gay. To me that would have meant something as he was SO very much a stereotypical teen dream type and a jock. It would have felt more like mainstream representation somehow.

Instead his friend was gay checking off the gay, black, and artsy boxes at once. He was also just a supporting character.

Sorry meant to say “meant something to ME”

OP, you'll always have Deadpool.

I'm sick of bisexual female characters. There are so damn many. It's beyond twisted how it's okay and accepted to be bi as a woman (even EXPECTED in some circles), but the bisexual male is a very rare thing indeed.

Magnus Bane on "Shadowhunters" was written in the books as bi and Asian, so that kills THAT argument

Bisexuals guys are inherently dishonest. They lie to women and men about their sexual preferences.

These shows are not made for you. All mainstream media is made for people who identify as straight white people. Any bisexual character in there don't exist to represent you. They exist to entertain straight people.

R17 yep...exactly......I once dated a bisexual guy who told me he ONLY married his wife because he wanted kids and she was too stupid to realize he was gay.

I get your point, OP but why would anyone write a female character falling for a bi man? That's basically just a straight relationship, what difference would it make?

R18, that's just not true.

R20, because it sends a message to women that it’s okay if their guy is also attracted to guys.

Besides, TV relationships don’t last. I want to see more bi guys that go back and forth between genders.

I want to see more bi guys not being relegated to supporting role or villain.

OP I know you didn't mean it but this thread comes across a bit racist.

R18 is correct for the most part. I don't see many portrayals of cool gay Jewish men either. Many minorities do not like how they are portrayed, if ever. Come to think of it, I haven't seen many bisexual characters portrayed in a leading male role, or anything less than a bit disordered or malevolent.

The truly 'bisexual" people that I've met would NEVER label themselves as anything other than just being sexual.

Not the ones I have known R25. I think it may be that they disclose differently to different people under different circumstances. If you only have contact with them on an app for sex, they may identify vaguely. If only a co-worker, or neighbour, perhaps no mention of it at all. If they are a good friend, they enjoy the freedom to let it all hang out with their gay mates. In my own life, I find the ladies to be identifying more of the same way across the board.

Richard Spencer is OP.

Isn't Torchwood all about a handsome, white bi guy?

And Colton Haynes played a bisexual detective in some American Horror Story series.

Go it.

[quote] Besides, TV relationships don’t last. I want to see more bi guys that go back and forth between genders.

You make a good point and I'd like to see it too.

The think the problem OP is bisexuals like you are just so fucking tiresome

[quote] I don't see many portrayals of cool gay Jewish men either.

That's because Jewish nerd writers dominate Hollywood and they write a lot about themselves and their not so cool nerdiness. Judd Apatow, Michael Schur and many SNL writers are good examples of this specimen. I like their work a lot even though I wouldn't consider myself a nerd.

HBO is releasing Him or Her next year, a show centered on a black bi guy and his dating life, though the AA community got really pissed they'll have a black male dating guys and girls, I guess they prefer to keep it down low, right?

I'd bet good money that most of his male dates will be femme gays just to keep the stereotype intact. We'll see. Still not what OP is asking for.

The lead in Torchwood was gay as the actor playing him

Sorry so was the actor playing him R33

Halt and Catch Fire, the main character is a white, handsome, bisexual man who is shown having sex and romance with both genders. The actor came out as queer, by the way.

Representation is pablum for people with limited capacity. Just because you don't "see" someone like you doesn't mean there aren't people "like" you.

Great works of literature reflect this. Most of us are not white women in Regency England, yet can see the universal appeal of Elizabeth Bennett or Darcy. I am not now, nor will ever be a King, yet can see the folly, heartache, and regret of Lear, Macbeth, and Richard III. I am not a giant cockroach, but can empathize with Gregor Samsa. I am not a hobo, but share the despair of Vladimir and Estragon.

Accept the limitations of popular entertainment, but see yourself and your experience in the betrayal of Fantine. The hooker with the heart of gold needs "representation" but, Violetta Valéry can be who she is and let her story stand.

The bisexual depictions I watch are quite satisfying.

OP needs to just bend over, STFU, and get ready to get fucked up the ass. Then stop whining like a prissy little queen.

[quote] I am not a hobo, but share the despair of Vladimir and Estragon.

You need to check your privilege. You are LITERALLY murdering hobos with that statement.

Constantine is a bi male.

"I could hang myself." - Estragon

"You'd get an erection." - Vladamir

Oberyn Martell on Game of Thrones

But the vast majority of bisexuals aren't bouncing between relationships with both sexes,they are usually just in heterosexual relationships. The truth is that the vast majority of bisexuals live a life that is indistinguishable from heterosexuals.

Fuck representation, OP, show me your junk!

This thread is useless without junk pics!

OP should watch TORCHWOOD -- they got your bi, white male lead right there.

Also, Colton Haynes' detective character on AMERICAN HORROR STORY.

So go ahead and watch those if identity is all you care about.

Deadpool is fabulous -- but not someone OP should look to if he wants to avoid "villains" or shady behavior. That's what Deadpool is all about! And Deadpool hasn't ever done the deed with a man yet -- not even in the comics, to my knowledge.

INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE has bisexual, romantic leads. But again, who's "in the right" is at question.

[quote]OP I know you didn't mean it but this thread comes across a bit racist.

Ya think?? Wouldn't be so sure that OP "didn't mean it". OP needs to examine his racist views - he sounds like a complete douchebag.

I'm also a masculine white bisexual male and am sick to death of giw bisexual women and even lesbians seem to be LOVED by society while I'm cool and a "regular dude bro" until I tell people I'm bi thqn all of a sudden I'm a dirty faggot scumbag from hell

If you're gonna be anti gay, be anti gay towards men AND women , don't say it's OK for women but horrible for men and feminists feed up these FALSE crap that women have it so hard and men are allowed to get away with everything

NOT gay/bi men

I guess we don't count or matter....

Lee Pace's character in "Burn and Catch Fire" is supposed to be bi and they show his old boyfriend and current girlfriend. He's a bit amoral but definitely not femme–the fact that he is bi comes as a surprise both to the viewer and to the other characters.

R49, and they gave him a black boyfriend, as if minorities are the only options for white bi guys. Why couldn’t he at least have a white adjacent boyfriend?

I enjoy bi guys, esp. the married ones ... theyre usually all pent up with sexual energy and are a great time in bed ... they suck cock and bottom VERY enthusiastically ...

R50 He was shown flirting with a hot young guy at the party, it is implied they had sex later, and then he had a brief affair with another white guy. There is a scene where he and his then-wife go to the night club where he kisses a guy and she kisses a girl. There are no other female lovers mentioned beyond the love of his life and his wife (yep two different women). It is actually kind of proposed that he is into men a lot, because he admits he was bullied and called a fag in school. I'd say it's a very non-hetero-washed portrait of a non-heterosexual white male.

Well that’s refreshing, R52.

r52, so the character is married to a woman and another woman is the love of his life, but he's ok to hook up with men on occasion. Yeah, that sounds about right.

that was weird r48. You really think feminists are your problem? You think men liking bi women is all about FEMINISM? Jesus, get off the crack pipe and the MRA pipe.

R48 You matter. I don’t get the hostility towards bi men. I have several bi buddies and the bias is just bullshit.

It’s the same crap gay men got in the 80s. Bigots are fishing for a new group to maginalize. I’ve had awesome bi buddies since the late 70s.

It’s just bigotry. Maybe you’re not a Kinsey 5 but you’re not a Kinsey 0. We should get our heads out of our asses that you’ve got two concurrent sexual orientations, simultaneously.

Glad to have you.

R53 He also has a berserk button related to homophobia. There are a few moments where he gets angry about it and it's shown in a very cool way, like he is shown as this cool guy getting rightfully mad at jerks. It is refreshing because the show doesn't shy away from the difficulties of not being straight but he doesn't look like the typical tragic victim. He has a strong personality and a lot of charisma.

R54 Not quite. He had an emotionally deep and important relationship with his ex. He isn't the least bit apologetic about being bisexual. It's not like men are his dirty secrets. And the whole marrying thing is more him having an existential crisis. Long story. He is definitely sexual with that woman but the relationship is short lived and the marriage is almost an accident.

It was also refreshing how the love of his life got jealous over his ex boyfriend but didn't give a fuck that he was male. She literally just accepts his sexuality as it is, it never bothers her.

[Quote] On Teen Wolf I really thought for a minute that the Dylan Sprayberry character was going to be gay. To me that would have meant something as he was SO very much a stereotypical teen dream type and a jock. It would have felt more like mainstream representation somehow. Instead his friend was gay checking off the gay, black, and artsy boxes at once. He was also just a supporting character.

They were both supporting characters. You had Brett and also Jackson (in the finale).

R48, you certainly exhibit 'dude bro' characteristics..... But your misogyny is tedious, and ridiculous, and your personification of yourself as 'masculine' is plain tiresome. Your problems are with 'dude bro' men like yourself, not with feminists, and your attitude stinks. And R56, don't justify and welcome his behaviour, he's a douche.