Justine Bateman on Fame

What the Hell is She Talking About?

God damn she looks beat - what else is going on Justine? Bulimia? Drug abuse? Cuz that's a far from healthy looking woman of any age.

You were famous - and then you weren't - but you always kinda will be. It's not awful - others have been through worse.

Self absorbed nut.

Why isn't she talking more about Carlo Imperato?

I met her once, and her eyes are the most beautiful blue/gray/green color.

It is one bad metaphor after another. This is why actors make horrible writers.

I could follow everything until the last paragraph. :?

David Bowie's take on the subject was much funkier.

Is that really her? She can't be that old...I'm guessing early 50s?

Apparently she went to UCLA at a quite advanced age and learned the collocation "social construction", then wrote a book to show her work.

r9, she's 61.

She's only a few years older than her brother. Dang.

She sounds insufferable.

Did Justine pursue fame after Family Ties? I’ll be damned if I can remember her in any other role. I thought that must have been by choice because if she’d been willing she could have been cast in...something. Anyhow the long straight hair isn’t doing her any favors at this late stage.

Gosh, she looks awful. My father is 59--he would look like a youngin' in comparison.

She's the same age as Jessica Tandy was when she did Cocoon.

She’s the same age as Lillian Gish when she did The Whales of August

Rode with her on an elevator once about 10 years after family ties. Her baby was with her and she didn’t seem particularly interested in being recognized. She was not really famous any more.

She looks like PJ Harvey.

R15 The last thing I remember seeing her in was a short-lived Showtime TV show called "Out of Order" where she got naked.

I always confuse her with Heidi Fleiss.

Carrie Fisher said "Fame is the waiting room for obscurity"....or something like that!

Hate to talk about her looks - but she's sidestepping SOMETHING major in her life. People with money don't look that awful. I"m only a couple years younger and she could be my mother.

Plus - look at her brother - he's a fucking hot daddy and aging well. So is she sick?

She’s aging terribly, but I doubt she has any money to fight it.

Looks to me like the picture of a lifelong anorectic/bulimic.

She's definitely using her words, though. All of them.

Her brother is 49.

Actually Jason’s face is horribly lined for his age. Sun damaged and hard looking. Have you seen Ozark?

Here from season 2.

That's Justine Bateman?! She looks like a yogurt-covered raisin that was left out in the sun too long!

What a gobbletygook of words. She's trying to sound intellectual. She was only a supporting player on a sitcom in the 80's- not Brooke Shields.

Her and Jason spent many years living off their sitcom wages, slacking and partying. Jason finally went back to work but he plays the same droll, deadpan, put-upon character in every film. Justine has just drifted.

You've suffered so much, Justine. I thought mama had it bad until I read your book.

She put an offer on my partner's house earlier this year. She's truly batshit.

She used to live in Valencia on the edge of a public golf course.

DId NO ONE bother to look her up on Wikipedia?

She's 52.

Though, she does look older. Actually, she looks unwell.

FIFTY-TWO???!!!

Shit, she looks horrible.

I guess everything went downhill after 'Satisfaction'. Awful movie.

You shut your whore mouth, R37, [italic]Satisfaction[/italic] was freaking awesome!

She was on "Men Behaving Badly" with Ron Eldard back in 1996. They both quit and the show was cancelled.

She was major druggie when she was fucking Leif Garrett. She got that face after years of drug use

Jason looks bad. He always pinged to me...guess I was wrong about him.

She's talking about her experience and she sounds pretty honest about it.

Being a human locked into the tower of fame can be surreal, disorienting and ultimately, crushing on the soul if you're not prepared for life after the escape from it, the escape that you've imagined since the day you were caught. That day you realized you couldn't just go sit anonymously by the seaside with a cup of coffee and a sandwich anymore. You couldn't just bring your kids to a bookstore without wondering if some crackpot was going to pop out of a corner and ask your child for hair samples so they can try cloning them or wonder when some unstable stranger was going to show up at your front door with a gun and a "revenge" mission at 3 am because you passed over signing his sun visor at ComicCon and that was your insulting affront to his years of passionate devotion.

You assume a "Stockholm Syndrome" love of that abusive partner (fame) that you've been held captive by for so long because that's how you stay sane and survive.

Yes, maybe you walked into its castle tower naively because it you fell for the initial seduction but once you're locked in and realize you're in danger on a regular basis, you negotiate to stay alive. The place is covered in every luxury imaginable. You get pretty much everything you want when you ask for it. But the reality remains that you're trapped and you can't get out. So you make the best of it because that's what humans do. Some embrace their situation more enthusiastically than others. Some fight their loss of freedom and agency every inch of the way. But you know the tower is so high, the escape so treacherous, that you can't leave until The Creature lets you leave. You can't break free if it doesn't want you to.

And then one day you're out and you don't know how to be, how to navigate that world outside of that castle tower. And no one else understands unless they've been held captive in a tower like you were.

Good God I lost interest after the 3rd sentence. I kept reading and she says the same damn thing so many times I lost count.

I saw her in person back in the early 90's. She was quite stunning in person. As mentioned above her eyes are really beautiful.

Is she married? kids?

She looks bad.

Actually, she has degrees in computer science and digital media management from UCLA.

That long hair does her no favors. It makes her look like an aging woman attempting to look younger. She'd look much better when shorter hair.

She was beautiful when she was on Family Ties. But she aged quickly afterwords.

I just want to know what the hell happened to Jason and Justine's faces. They look like apple-face dolls.

Jason's face may have plenty of lines, but he's still a handsome man.

I saw her outside the Fairfax/Sta. Monica WholeFoods around 2012 and she looked rough enough that I very rudely grimaced while staring at her.

She had about 5 minutes of fame. Is her book meant to satirize fame?

r12, I don't think Jason is 50 yet, still late 40s. Bigger age difference.

There was a thread about her before, how she couldn't wait to get old and does nothing to stop that process. If she ate regularly she would look a bit better.

I checked she is only 52, so they are close in age. Yeah she looks in her 60s

As said, she's 52. She doesn't look like she had any work done ever over the years. Since Jason also looks like his age at 49, they probably can chalk some of that up to genetics.

I respect her for going back to school for years, even at her age, taking no shortcuts and trying to do something else with her life. She didn't try to cling on to fame, she just got on with her life.

Unlike some people she's studied and experienced the things she's talking about and isn't running around telling people not to vaccinate their kids because they read it in a journal somewhere. I guess there's something there.

She was the Ethel Mertz of Family Ties said Michael J. Fox.

Goodness she looks terrible

She seems sincere. I'm sure she's a good mom and a nice person.

I like that she doesn't look plastic. I respect that.

r55 she married a real estate gazzilionare.

I also respect that she didn’t pull a Melanie Griffith or Renee Zellwegger and trade in for a new face.

She’s fucking 52. She’s not clinging to 20 or 30 or 40. Maybe she is comfortable with who she is.

r60, I like her but she looks terrible for 52. She looks about 65. She needs to eat a bit more and if she wasn't so skinny she wouldn't look so hollowed out and maybe her own age.

r29, jason looked good up until a few years ago. Once he crossed to late 40s, age smacked him in the face

But on a man he looks distinguished.

at least they didn't become drug addicted, dead child starts. Have to give them some credit.

I guess I'm alone here because I think she has some really well thought-out points. More and more, people are desperate for fame and the flame-outs grow more spectacular. It's a relevant topic today and she's been on the inside and the outside; she's lived it and can tell the story.

She didn't have her brother's charisma and talent. Maybe just a smidgen of it, enough to get her foot through the door, but not enough to make it last.

I agree, r64. I don't think that she said was obnoxious at all.

My r42 entry looks very melodramatic upon later inspection but the sentiment still holds true. Fame is like Lenny from "Of Mice and Men". You just hope it doesn't love you to death.

I saw her at LACMA with Moon Zappa, who played her shoplifting friend on Family Ties.

Are you famous R42?

She was more charismatic than Jason in the 80s.

R69 In my own mind. Though we haven't reached a consensus yet.

She was a prettier girl than Jason in the 80s, that's about it.

Jason Bateman had a substance abouse problem in his 20s did Justine?

No one on Datalounge cares what she has to say or about the content of her book. They only care about her appearance. Sad.

Justine is very sensitive about how old she looks. So you monster should hush!

The Carrie Fisher line is "Fame is just obscurity biding its time."

Justine read for the Daryl Hannah role in "Steel Magnolias" several times -- always in a long blonde wig for some reason. Got pretty far for it actually. She was always a good actress so not sure how it went so wrong but maybe that article tells us a lot.

Justine would have done much better in Steel Magnolias than Daryl Hannah. Though the lazy, exaggerated fake Southern accents kill the movie for me.

Emaciated. Does a lot of yoga a raw foods perhaps.

She’s one of those actresses whose looks peaked at 16 - which is rare for anyone despite what people say here (for women it’s usually around 30). Even the end of FT she was still very attractive but not nearly as pretty as she was early in the run.

She ruined Elyse's chances as a pitchwoman and Alex's Yale interview.

Upthread poster is right: women peak at 30.

Looks like a crack Whore. Or assistant crack Whore.

Adheres to the SJP school of eyeliner. Other than that, I have nothing against her.

[quote]Upthread poster is right: women peak at 30.

Upthread poster is right: White women peak at 30. (I fixed it for you)

R85 is half-right.

Black women peak at 30 too, but their decline is SLOW--an almost flat slope well until 50.

For white women, peak at 30, by 35 the drop off is fast.

Weird that their parents named them Justin/Justine. Maybe she is envious of Jason's resurgence and that he hangs with the popular crowd (vacations with Jimmy Kimmel/Jen Aniston)

Oops r87 again, his name is Jason. Time for bed. LOL

lol

r68 Wrong! Martha Plimpton played the shoplifting friend.

[quote]Black women peak at 30 too, but their decline is SLOW--an almost flat slope well until 50. For white women, peak at 30, by 35 the drop off is fast.

Angela Bassett and Halle Berry would like to disagree.

Angela finally started looking 40 and she just turned 60. She can still wear a bikini better than women half her age.

White women need to take Julianne Moore's advice and stay out of the sun as much as possible.

Justine just didn't have it to be a star. Satisfaction was her star vehicle and it flopped. Putting her atrocious singing in the film aside, she was far too serious in the movie and didn't have that star quality that her up-and-coming co-star Julia Roberts had. She is a good actress though.

R92 she was legit very good the first couple seasons of FT. Then I’m not sure what happened ; if she kind of checked out or the writers just got really lazy with her character - I guess a bit of both.

Heartbreaking in this. Watch her at 58:04 (but she's great throughout).

She really could act but she caught up in damn Sitcom Disease. Cruel business.

This is the face of a 52 year-old-woman who has not had plastic surgery, is wearing no make-up, does nothing with her hair, and is underweight.

Cut and color the hair, give her light, natural-looking make-up, and convince her to gain about 10 pounds, and you would be amazed at the difference.

With judicious botox and a subtle eyelift, she would be totally transformed.

I liked her in her (too small) role in "The TV Set". She has a good womanly voice, not a squeaky little girl thing.

Maybe it's the pale skin and dark eyeliner, but she looks really ill here.

Justine Bateman and Julia Roberts are the same type and would have been up for the same roles, which explains Satisfaction. She was considered cool and hot back in the mid-80s.

Justine and Lisa Bonet sound exactly the same.

not her only problem but those downturned eyes don't usually age well

Sorry, but I have many 50 year old lesbian friends (who never wear make up, have had no plastic surgery, etc). She looks especially bad.

Was she a beach baby? Maybe too much time in the sun?

She looks 70! my gawd! really terrible in R97.

By the way, in the pic at R95, she is wearing foundation. No one's face--especially at that age--is that uniform in color.

She would look great with some subtle work, make up, haircut/color and 10 lbs.

I like her wrinkly face. She looks real at least. I'm about to turn 56 and know I'm rapidly aging. I braced myself for it when I was in my early 40s which helped to a degree. I l weigh 155 but I have a gut. I have lines around my eyes, my ass is deflated, and my hands and feet look veiny and old but whatever.

Considering most of the 52-year old men and women I see are bloated lard containers, I don't think Justine looks "terrible"

When she was a teenager and on top of the world she appeared on Hour Magazine as a guest co host and acted so uppity with Gary Collins in a food segment for kids.

God I am pathetic to remember that appearance from thirty five years ago.

Are your lesbian friends of a normal weight, R101? Being 10-20 pounds underweight is a big part of Justine's problem.

R108, yes, they are of a normal weight. I mean, I have friends in that age range in a variety of weights--but none are what I would call emaciated (though Justine looks like she might be in that category). Some are latin (white, but olive skin); some normal anglo. None look have the aged skin (especially around the mouth area) that she has.

She’s fine. She sends her love.

Was I the only one disappointed that this wasn't about Justine having done a special guest appearance on "Fame"?

Ha, no, me too r111.

Do you like the clothes?

I was gangraped yesterday by a squadron of mercenaries, but my sufferings are nothing compared to hers.

[quote] No one on Datalounge cares what she has to say or about the content of her book. They only care about her appearance. Sad.

Sad!

It's the DATALOUNGE. We're only supposed to care about her looks, drug use, who she's fucking or pretending to fuck, feuds, fashion disasters and weight, nothing else.

It's Justine Bateman not Marie Curie.

I was in an elevator with Jason Bateman a couple of weeks ago, in LA. He’s very handsome in person and seems like a nice guy. He was so handsome, I wasn’t sure it was him, until a girl in the elevator with us started freaking out after he got off.

Here eyeliner looks possibly tattooed, which is fine. An easy thing would be to darken and define the eyebrows.

Mallory Loves Me

I read somewhere that Sarah Jessica Parker has tattooed eyeliner, and that's why she persists with the racoon eyes look, though it doesn't suit her at this age.

Can someone start a thread on tattooed makeup? I would like the DL's opinion on it.

She's 52.

Odd that she wrote a big book on the perils of fame because she wasn't that famous, she was a supporting player on a dumb sitcom that ended 30 years ago. It's not like she was Meg Ryan or Julia Roberts.

And JESUS she does look awful!

She looks awful for any age

Her brother is hot and has always been so. When I was a kid I wanted to be in a Ricky Schroder/Jason Bateman sandwich.

She could make her big comeback as the lead in an Alice Cooper biopic.

[quote]Justine Bateman on Fame

I do not remember her on that tee-vee show.

Jason looks like shit too and he is a truly one-note performer. He ruins every scene in Ozark which is an otherwise good show.

She reminds me of a Sphinx cat, but good for her for going back to school later in life. I'd rather she do that than appear in god-awful reality shows, or something equally demeaning and irritating.

She looks dehydrated.

I have to give her credit. She seems happy in her own skin. She has not aged well but kudos to her for not caring.

She needs laser skin resurfacing and Sculptra.

So that’s why SJP’s eyes look creepy all the time! Tattooed eyeliner. What a bad move.

Girl you is lookin' BEAT!

R134 She almost looks as bad as I did, almost.

She looks like a crazy cat lady who lives in the woods, who does a little Reiki healing and paranormal investigations on the side.

So is she dead or alive in those photos?

She wants to have wrinkles, the reverse of most of Hollywood.

she was on TV talking about the book - she's clearly very intelligent.

Justine Bateman (Twitter): Two the reasons I’ll never do anything to my face to change its aging are a) I want to help people to get used to looking at “normal” faces, and b) I want all woman who have naturally aging faces to feel emboldened by looking at my loose skin and wrinkles on camera. #YouLookGreat

Justine Bateman (Twitter): Few things are more badass than a woman walking around confidently with wrinkles and loose skin. It’s positively rebellious.

Love her but she couldn't just write a normal autobiography with a nice shot on the cover? WHO is going to buy this ugly orange manifesto?

Let's be honest. My grandmother looked far more youthful on her death bed at 84 years of age.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with Justine's neck and face? Someone up thread said it perfectly - she looks like one of those dried Apple dolls that the Appalachian hillbilly grammas sell on the side of the road. And those grammas looked far younger than this bitch.

R140 So she's a delusional narcissist.

Of course, she is.

Let's get her and Nicole Kidman on a panel about aging.

220 pages. Another celebrity pamphlet. They'll never learn. Wait for the $6 section at Barnes and Noble.

(I just found Lena Dunham's infamous book there, bought it for a gift and then realized nobody I know would want it. So stuck with two now. But sure as shit didn't pay anything close to full price for either).

Why does she WANT to be "positively rebellious?" One can want to look good and not overdo plastic surgery. What benefit is there in looking like hammered shit?

Her look is NOT normal for a 50-something woman. I don't know what's wrong with her, but that's not how most 50-year-olds look unless they have chronic health problems.

Yes, r143 simple attention seeking. Whatever works.

She is 52. This is truly not normal. Must have smoked, sun worshipped and drank all through the 80's and 90's.

And dated Leif Garrett which could age anyone.

I'd like to see the dark eye circles and muffin tops of those who can't seem to get over someone's appearance

I want to read her book and will ask my library to get it. what she says sounds thought out and true.