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The Gays and Tennis 30: Is This Where We Talk About Laver Cup?

Asian Swing

and then...

Year-End Championship.

Let's talk about them.

by Anonymousreply 3899 hours ago
by Anonymousreply 109/21/2018

OP....WTF? Link relevance?

by Anonymousreply 209/21/2018

We need to discover some new cakes for future threads.

by Anonymousreply 309/22/2018

Murray's ending his season after Beijing to concentrate on his fitness.

by Anonymousreply 409/22/2018

Next year should be interesting on atp (on wta not so much, wta really needs new rising stars as soon as possible)

by Anonymousreply 509/22/2018

Porna in Shenzhen

by Anonymousreply 609/22/2018

I was at the Laver Cup night session yesterday. Great match between Schwartzman and Goffin, actually more compelling than the Federer/Djokovic doubles match. The two of them looked like they just couldn’t get in a rhythm.

by Anonymousreply 709/22/2018

I thought it was really cruel of the organisers to put Schwartzman next to Isner in that publicity photo. It made Schwartman look like a child.

by Anonymousreply 809/22/2018

Damn Porna is hot!!

by Anonymousreply 909/22/2018

I had a good view of the players’ couches from where we sat. Team Europe was very restrained and low-key, Team World was all over the place. Also Isner has absolutely ENORMOUS hands. Every time he started clapping they were all I could focus on.

by Anonymousreply 1009/22/2018

That kid Jary from Chile is pretty!

by Anonymousreply 1109/22/2018

Jack Sock & Lil' Diego

by Anonymousreply 1209/22/2018

Guangzhou: Q. Wang def. Putintseva to win second title of career and year

Seoul: the final will be between Bertens and Tomljanovic seeking her first title

Tokyo: Osaka will face Pliskova. Nice to see Osaka has kept her USO momentum going

St. Petersburg: Thiem will face Klizan who upset Wawrinka today

Metz: Bachinger upset Nishikori and will face Simon for the title

by Anonymousreply 1309/22/2018

I think Osake is going to be a nightmare for most top players. She has the big weapons but at the same time she has the defensive skills and she seems able to keep calm on court

by Anonymousreply 1409/22/2018

I really like Osaka but just can't see her dominating. There's something missing but I can't put my finger on it.

Anyone else feel this way or am I just a dreadful pessimist?

by Anonymousreply 1509/22/2018

She’s already doing much better than other first-time GS winners.

by Anonymousreply 1609/22/2018

Europe Team or the rest of the World Team?

by Anonymousreply 1709/22/2018

Europe team is way better.

With Osaka is difficult to know. She did fantastic at IW, she wasn't even nervous in the final, but she didn't rise her game till the US OPen. Next year will be useful to know if she is really going to be an amazing player or simply a good player who shows her skills from time to time like all the other top players. If she is comfortable being inconsistent like Kvitova or Muguruza or if she really wants to be one of the greats. In my opinion she has some advantages over most top players. She has weapons, a good serve, but she is able to defeat and even better she seems able to keep calm in the big matches. Of course you need some killing instinct, a hunger for winnng to really get into the next level (the young Monica Seles is a perfect example of that) and i don't know if she has that. But i will be surprised if she won't win at least a couple of more GS

by Anonymousreply 1809/22/2018

Osaka always had a big forehand and decent first serve. Her backhand will always be her weaker side though it's improved. The 2 biggest improvements she's made under Sascha are improved movement and consistency. She's getting to more balls which allows her to set up better and be more patient. I was very eager to see how she'd handle the fast and powerful (but inconsistent) Giorgi in the SF and she almost breezed through the match. Osaka won most of the longer points and wasn't bothered by the pace Giorgi was throwing her way.

Osaka has been dominant all week long whereas Pliskova has gone 3 sets in every match. The last time they played in IW Osaka won handily too. The final should be interesting

by Anonymousreply 1909/22/2018

Nadal sits it out. So I will too. And I love tennis.

by Anonymousreply 2009/22/2018

Genie Bouchard, clearly out of the goodness of her heart, decided to give someone else a chance to win Wuhan this week. She instead chose to enter Tashkent, where she is the CLEAR title favorite

by Anonymousreply 2109/22/2018

To whom does A. Zverev appeal?

by Anonymousreply 2209/22/2018

I am most definitely not one of the whoms, R22, given AZ's arrogance, petulance, and overall assholery.

And yes, you are a dreadful pessimist, R15. Osaka is one of the few from the WTA whom I enjoy watching any more--crafty, nimble, understated, professional and seemingly effortless.

Coric needs a thread gathering all of his shirtless and ass pics. I don't understand why Thiem is the DL tennis poster boy instead. That ass is outweighed by the Keebler elfishness and his beard.

by Anonymousreply 2309/22/2018

Chengdu and Shenzen draws out too.

Lots of opportunity in Chengdu with someone unexpected to win the title as unreliable Fognini (who has just 1 hardcourt title he won this year) and titleless Chung as the top 2 seeds.

Shenzen has the better field including WC Murray. Goffin and titleless Tsitsipas are the top 2 seeds.

by Anonymousreply 2409/22/2018

*Lots of opportunity in Chengdu FOR someone

by Anonymousreply 2509/22/2018


by Anonymousreply 2609/22/2018

R22 His appeal ends at his hair.

by Anonymousreply 2709/22/2018

it's so weird seeing Roger and Novak acting like bffs during the Laver Cup. They've been seen talking to each other for long periods of time and laughing, cheering each other on etc. just weird!

by Anonymousreply 2809/22/2018

Pliskova def. Osaka 6-4 6-4 for the Tokyo title. For the first time all week, Osaka was visibly nervous and frustrated. Her backhand was too flat and she made a lot of unforced errors off that side.

by Anonymousreply 2909/22/2018

R27 I'd say Z's appeal ends at his personality.

by Anonymousreply 3009/22/2018

Kevin’s Anderson’s wife was just on Instagram and she was showing all the swag they received from the Laver cup! She’s real sweet and very attractive!

by Anonymousreply 3109/23/2018

Bertens wins Seoul in 3 sets

Thiem wins St. Petersburg easily

Simon wins Metz in straights

by Anonymousreply 3209/23/2018

Simon will never fade away

by Anonymousreply 3309/23/2018

Simon is a vulture. He takes advantage of when top players (in this case Nishikori) get upset. Simon and Gasquet are small-tournament whores as that's all they can win.

by Anonymousreply 3409/23/2018

I think Zverev could be a fan favourite, he is quite handsome and he knows how to be charming when he wants. Unfortunately he is arrogant and his behaviour on court is far from being the best. If he is able to start to behave on court and downs the ego a bit it could work (but i don't have high hopes about that). And right now he is clearly the best young player (in fact he is the only one who is a top player) but i don't know how he'll react when the rivals start to catch him, specially if he didn't reach the next level on GS soon

by Anonymousreply 3509/23/2018

A. Zverev is a poor loser and has already set a precedent of being a jerk to umpires, linespeople, the press, and pretty much everyone else. Let's hope he's overtaken soon by the likes of Tsitsipas, Auger-Aliassime, Coric, Tiafoe and others who may not have reached their potential as quickly but at least know how to be gentlemen on the court, even if they have the occasional broken tennis racket.

by Anonymousreply 3609/23/2018

R36: You have a very loose concept of gentleman. Maybe none of them has reached the Zverev levels of assholery but most of them had their moments of bad behaviour in their short career. Even a nice guy like De Miñaur smashed a raquet on the US Open.

Most young players seem very nice outside court (in fact even Zverev seems nice most of the time even he can't hide his big ego) but on court they are generally very aggressive and they seem to have some problems when things don't go their way. It's true that Zverev behaviour should be corrected as soon as possible, but the rest are no angels (not even Tsitsipas who seems a very nice and inteligent guy).

And i hope Felix problems on the US Open were not important, that guy has a lot of potential

by Anonymousreply 3709/23/2018

man, that Coric has a cock on him... whew

by Anonymousreply 3809/23/2018

He pulled out of Laver cup.

by Anonymousreply 3909/23/2018

Shapo's idol is Vladimir Putin and he dreams of the possibility of meeting the Russian president.

by Anonymousreply 4009/23/2018

R40 did he really say that?

by Anonymousreply 4109/23/2018

He even wants to move to Russia.

by Anonymousreply 4209/23/2018

wow. I wonder if he even pays attention to the news. I'm sure they're as hard on him in Canada as they are here.

Then again, Shapo had no clue Celine Dion is Canadian so he's quite ignorant.

I mean if he supports the way Putin rules Russia with his corruption, money laundering and crackdown on human rights, that's problematic.

by Anonymousreply 4309/23/2018

When you want to please the audience on a tournament things like this can happen and i don't know if his comments will be that popular on his own country He doesn't seem particulary bright (which is not rare on profesional sports)

by Anonymousreply 4409/23/2018

I am not a fan of Laver Cup, which is just a glorified series of exhibition matches, but I do like seeing Isner lose.

by Anonymousreply 4509/23/2018

I think the Laver is fun.

by Anonymousreply 4609/23/2018

Yes, R37, it's a low bar: Don't scream invective at umpires and the crowd, don't roll your eyes and walk out of press conferences when asked questions that aren't adulatory, and don't yell "this is my fucking court" when you win a match. The younger Zverev doesn't even get over the low bar, whereas the others do. A broken tennis racket doesn't mind getting abused.

by Anonymousreply 4709/23/2018


by Anonymousreply 4809/23/2018

His sculpted brows....

by Anonymousreply 4909/23/2018

Genie Bouchard put up a valiant effort but lost 3-6 3-6 to World #1 dominant player Nao Hibino in the first round of grand slam Tashkent. Bouchard has been so unlucky this year drawing Hibino 3 times, including just last week and lost all 3 times.

by Anonymousreply 5009/23/2018

Team Europe with the Laver Cup

by Anonymousreply 5109/24/2018

What do we think will happen to the Laver Cup when Fed retires (sooner rather than later if I had to put money on it)? Will he take over as Team Europe captain?

by Anonymousreply 5209/24/2018

R52, Fed will be assimilated into the Borg collective. Resistance is futile.

by Anonymousreply 5309/24/2018

Carlita shows her pussy

by Anonymousreply 5409/24/2018

[quote] Carlita shows her pussy

Who’s that?

by Anonymousreply 5509/24/2018

[quote]Shapo's idol is Vladimir Putin and he dreams of the possibility of meeting the Russian president.

[quote]He even wants to move to Russia.

Nonsense. I suspect the article is concocted by Russian media, and we know Putin controls that... in other words, I speculate that it is Putin who would like to meet Shapo, and offer him citizenship. Shapo is fluent in Russian, which is rare on the world-stage.

by Anonymousreply 5609/24/2018

R55 Carla Suarez Navarro, Spanish tennis player. Last seen losing to Madison Keys in the US Open quarterfinals.

by Anonymousreply 5709/24/2018

[quote]Last seen losing to Madison Keys in the US Open quarterfinals

CSN actually played in Wuhan today, but lost to Sabalenka

by Anonymousreply 5809/24/2018

Carlita has a beautiful pussy.

And it's quite obvious that Federer has a thing for bad guys, he really seems to care for Zverev (and Kyrgios) and the advice he gave Sascha was really good

by Anonymousreply 5909/24/2018

Shapo said it all. If you read the Russian interview he says that he has a "Russian soul" and that he's annoyed that Anglophone Canadians still can't say his name properly.

by Anonymousreply 6009/24/2018

R60: Great way to become a fan favourite in your country

by Anonymousreply 6109/24/2018

Canadian press I would think is against Putin too...I hope Shapo gets destroyed for these comments. What an ignorant brat. I hope he never wins a slam

by Anonymousreply 6209/24/2018

Bieber is also very ignorant too.

by Anonymousreply 6309/24/2018

[quote]Osaka is one of the few from the WTA whom I enjoy watching any more--crafty, nimble, understated, professional and seemingly effortless.

Couldn’t agree more, r23.

by Anonymousreply 6409/24/2018

Is this where we talk about tennis death? If not let’s make it so.

Tennis Star's Ex-Husband Killed Their 2 Children as They Slept Before Turning Gun on Himself

On September 21, Stephanie Reece received a call that no parent wants to get. Her two children, Harrison, 15, and Shelby, 13, had not shown up to school.

When the former pro tennis player — who competed at Wimbledon and in the US Open in the Nineties — could not get a hold of her children or her ex-husband, Michael Hunn, she drove over to Hunn’s house in Zionsville, Indiana but the doors were locked and secured and nobody answered.

She knew something was wrong, so she called the police.

Officers entered the home around 10:30 a.m. and discovered Shelby and Harrison in their beds, fatally shot, and Hunn, 50, dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

by Anonymousreply 6509/24/2018

Wow I guess no one cares about the much vaunted Asian Swing.

Help lost 06-, 5-7 today to Cibulkova.

by Anonymousreply 6609/25/2018

R66 I'm following it. A lot of upsets so far in Wuhan

btw a rumored #nextgen couple is Michael Mmoh and Fanny Stollar

by Anonymousreply 6709/25/2018

[quote] Carla Suarez Navarro, Spanish tennis player. Last seen losing to Madison Keys in the US Open quarterfinals.

I don't know her.

by Anonymousreply 6809/25/2018

Puig! def. Wozniacki 7-6 7-5 in Wuhan. Kvitova and Kerber also lost, so none of the top 10 seeds reached the QF

Shapovalov & Tsitsipas both lost in Shenzhen

by Anonymousreply 6909/26/2018


by Anonymousreply 7009/26/2018

Serena's pulled out of the China Open.

by Anonymousreply 7109/26/2018

[quote] Serena's pulled out of the China Open.

Fortunately her husband pulled out so she never had a baby.

by Anonymousreply 7209/26/2018

Puig is great but frustrating to root for, all the ingredients are there, but wildly mentally inconsistent. In many ways, she's Sloane Stephens without a major.

by Anonymousreply 7309/26/2018

I wish the Asian Swing kicked off the year, leading up to the Australian Open, and the season just ends after the US Open. The top players are done, hurt, or going through the motions, opening the door for the Jack Socks and Caroline Garcias to get an inflated ranking for a year that doesn't really reflect their playing level.

by Anonymousreply 7409/26/2018

The 'Asian Swing' has never really taken off.

As R74 says, the top players are done for the year and the spectator numbers are embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 7509/26/2018

Puig doesn't have as good of a serve as Sloane

by Anonymousreply 7609/26/2018

Muguruza just lost to Siniakova (who defeated defending champ Garcia the other day in rd1)

Auger-Aliassime lost in the final round of qualifying but as a lucky loser is now into the QF of Chengdu after defeating Chung in 3 sets. He'll have a good shot at reaching the SF since his opponent will be Tomic

by Anonymousreply 7709/26/2018


by Anonymousreply 7809/26/2018

Coric just lost to Norrie in straight sets. For someone whose game is predicated on consistency, Coric sure is inconsistent.

by Anonymousreply 7909/26/2018


by Anonymousreply 8009/26/2018

The Lavatory Cup

by Anonymousreply 8109/26/2018

The Asian Schwing

by Anonymousreply 8209/26/2018

Muguuruza should focus on her tennis and not on red carpets. She has everything to be a multi GS winner but sometimes she seems that she doesn't care

by Anonymousreply 8309/26/2018

So a WTA Tier I, with most of the top players present, and the draw cut-off at No. 48, is down to the eight remaining players ranked 17, 20, 27, 31, 34, 39, 47, and 51.

Is it any wonder stands would be empty? These aren't bad players - all but Puig are top 50 - but if you don't follow the sport closely, you're lucky to know one of the remaining 8 players. Will the casual tennis fan decide to attend even if they don't know *anyone* on court?

by Anonymousreply 8409/26/2018

last 8 in Tashkent

Anna Karolina Schmiedlova

Mona Barthel

Kateryna Kozlova

Fanny Stollar

Dalila Jakupovic

Vera Lapko

Anastasia Potapova

Margarita Gasparyan

by Anonymousreply 8509/26/2018

Draw for Qualifying round of Davis Cup 2019 (to be held on 1-2 Feb)








Czech Republic-Netherlands





The TBA will depend on the regulation play off of group 1 to be played next month. It is either Portugal, Slovakia, Belarus or South Africa depending on the ranking after these matches

by Anonymousreply 8609/26/2018

The equivalent would be a Tier I Men's event that saw all the top guys lose early: Nadal AND Federer AND Djokovic AND Murray AND DelPotro AND Wawrinka AND Zverev AND Thein AND Cilic AND Anderson AND Dimitrov AND Isner.

I think the closest we saw was Paris last October, which had the final eight as :Nadal, Krajonovic, Del Porto, Isner, Benneteau, Cilic, Verdasco, Sock

by Anonymousreply 8709/26/2018

to be fair, Serena, Venus, Sharapova, Azarenka and Osaka all withdrew from the tournament.

by Anonymousreply 8809/26/2018

the Thiem brothers in an elevator

by Anonymousreply 8909/26/2018

Murray will face Goffin today...should be an interesting match

by Anonymousreply 9009/26/2018

[quote]Murray will face Goffin today...should be an interesting match

Judy's excited

by Anonymousreply 9109/26/2018

Thiem Thiem team

by Anonymousreply 9209/26/2018

I am on Thiem team too.

by Anonymousreply 9309/26/2018

[quote] Murray will face Goffin today...should be an interesting match

I am on Misery team.

by Anonymousreply 9409/26/2018

Would be so fun to be double Thiemed

by Anonymousreply 9509/26/2018

[quote]Fortunately [Serena’s] husband pulled out so she never had a baby.

But I heard somewhere she HAD A BABY!!! and was the only woman in the world who had won a tennis match after having A BABY!!!!, r72.

by Anonymousreply 9609/27/2018

Is Serena going to play the YEC?

by Anonymousreply 9709/27/2018

Porna's basket!

by Anonymousreply 9809/27/2018

Hadley Freeman in the Guardian has written a rather ill-advised article about how Serena is representative of all women (?). The 800-plus comments are not very Serena-friendly.

by Anonymousreply 9909/27/2018

R97 she hasnt qualified and wont

by Anonymousreply 10009/27/2018

I think Serena's days of playing the Asian Swing are over unless she does it as part of a farewell tour. She's in it for Grand Slam titles only. I mentioned it on another thread but I think at most it will be the 4 GS, one tuneup tourney before AO, French and the US, and maybe Indian Wells or Miami but not both.

by Anonymousreply 10109/27/2018

The latest Beyond the Baseline podcast has Wertheim and Annacone gushing over The Laver Cup, culminating in Wertheim suggesting the event could challenge The Grand Slams in popularity.


Is Wertheim heavily medicated? Or am I missing something by thinking of Laver Cup as a glorified exhibition?

by Anonymousreply 10209/27/2018

[quote] culminating in Wertheim suggesting the event could challenge The Grand Slams in popularity.


by Anonymousreply 10309/27/2018

if they want to hold that Laver Cup shit DO IT IN THE OFF SEASON. Stop acting like an exho is more important than a real event. What a dumbass thing for them to say

by Anonymousreply 10409/27/2018

Laver Cup appeal comes from an opportunity to see players who normally fight against each others as a part of one team - it worked great with Rafa and Roger last year, not nearly as good with Djok and Roger this year though. Another pairing people were hyped about was Zverev & Roger as the representation of two distinct generations. If Laver Cup can guarantee the line up of charismatic players it will survive, but without it the Europe- rest of the world rivarly is not enough to make people that interested.

by Anonymousreply 10509/27/2018

Well Misery beat Goffin and will face Vedasco again.

by Anonymousreply 10609/27/2018

Misery team

by Anonymousreply 10709/27/2018

US Davis Cup Captain Jim Courier has stepped down after 8 years

by Anonymousreply 10809/27/2018

R108, is he going to coach young Grigor?

by Anonymousreply 10909/27/2018

I was watching a rerun of a Hopman Cup match between Federer and Sock. I knew Sock had a big ass but I never noticed it was that huge. It’s probably bigger than that of Domicakes Thiem. Thoughts on Sock’s ass?

by Anonymousreply 11009/27/2018

Zverev and Melo are having fun in Beijing.

by Anonymousreply 11109/27/2018

I'm watching the Shenzhen Open quarters with Ramos-Vinolas and Herbert. Ramos-Vinolas is showing a nice package in his white shorts. Herbert's trim-fit blue shorts are cute as well. Both guys look like they can use some sleep and a cheeseburger though.

by Anonymousreply 11209/28/2018


by Anonymousreply 11309/28/2018

The final day scheduling of the tacky Laver Cup was designed for Roger's ego. Scheduling him in the 1st 2matches of the day - back to back - he could clinch it with 2 wins. Leaving Novak to play the final match would have put the pressure on him if it had come down to a live final match. As it turned out Novak didn't get to play. Roger is such an asshole and if anyone thinks mental midget Bjorn Borg set that schedule, well......

by Anonymousreply 11409/28/2018

The Laver Cup has been a huge success but it is still a glorified exho. It's a good chance for the relatively lesser known players to raise their profiles and of course there's loads of money in it for everyone.

There are tournaments out there that could only dream of attendance figures like those.

by Anonymousreply 11509/28/2018

Mmmm, I like a furry Popsicle.

by Anonymousreply 11609/28/2018

Would suck him dry on Centre Court 😋

by Anonymousreply 11709/28/2018

Serena to take the rest of the season off.

by Anonymousreply 11809/28/2018

I didn’t realize Popsicle had chest hair. Surprised.

by Anonymousreply 11909/28/2018

[quote] Serena to take the rest of the season off.

Is it because she had a...?

by Anonymousreply 12009/28/2018

So will he come out now, r108?

by Anonymousreply 12109/28/2018

[quote]Is it because she had a...?

a hangnail, r120?

by Anonymousreply 12209/28/2018

Verdasco beats Andy Murray 6-4 6-4 to reach the Shenzen SF

by Anonymousreply 12309/28/2018

God, Popsicle is yummmier than before with his chest hair. I was losing interest in him, but schwing, he's got my attention again.

by Anonymousreply 12409/28/2018

yeah, that chest is droolworthy

by Anonymousreply 12509/28/2018

Murray had already lost that match when he said he was pulling out for the rest of the year.

by Anonymousreply 12609/28/2018

Tomic having one of his few good weeks. People like Tomic are the reason Roger, Novak and Rafa's career are lasting that long. It's not the same playing with 33 when you know you only have a little odd of winning a GS that playing when you are one of the big favourites. There were a couple of generations who had the game but not the mentality to dethrene the big three. And the next gen is probably the same but they had the big advantage that now Roger, Nole and Rafa are old, so it's only a question of time

by Anonymousreply 12709/29/2018

Diva Verdasco.

by Anonymousreply 12809/29/2018

Is this where we talk about Ryder Cup?

by Anonymousreply 12909/29/2018

R128 Ugh Verdasco is disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 13009/29/2018

yay new titlist! In Tashkent, Margarita Gasparyan (who became top 50 a few years ago before injury) def. rising 17 year old Anastasia Potapova 6-2 6=1

in Wuhan, Sabalenka wins her second career title def. Kontaveit 6-3 6-3

in Chengdu Fognini def. Fritz in 3 sets and will face a resurgent Tomic who def. Sousa in straights

in Shenzen we're guaranteed a new titlist! yay! Nishioka won a third set tiebreak over Verdasco and will face Herbert who also won a third set tiebreak over de Minaur

by Anonymousreply 13109/29/2018

Beijing and Tokyo draws are out. Women's action in Beijing has already started with Kvitova getting crushed by Gavrilova and Svitolina choking to lose in 3rd set tiebreak to Krunic

As expected, Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Serena and Venus aren't playing. Azarenka and Osaka have both withdrawn again too

by Anonymousreply 13209/29/2018

Please anyone! What's next WTA final to pencil Genie Bouchard into? Asking for a friend.


by Anonymousreply 13309/29/2018

Svitolina's days in the top 10 are numbered if she can't even successfully vulture the Asian swing.

by Anonymousreply 13409/29/2018

By the way Marcelo Rios called Federer Mrs (señora in spanish) supposely to show (with some misoginy included) that he is too polite for his taste. He called Sock a clown (i don't know what Sock did to upset him) and Sampras was boring to him (i suppose not winning any of their matches made him more boring).

Ríos was a very talented player but he always had a big mouth. He is probably the worst number one ever, slamless (he lost his only GS against Korda bordering ridicule) and his other highlight was when he spend a press conference crying because his girlfriend dumped him (if my memory doesn't fail he cheated on her). As i say he was talented but not a champion by any means (very weak mentally)

by Anonymousreply 13509/29/2018

The attendance for all these Chinese events has been pathetic. (Japan has had typically great crowd numbers). Even the Murray/Verdasco match, held on a Friday night, in Shenzen (a very large city) was played to a mostly empty stadium.

by Anonymousreply 13609/29/2018

Only in tennis do you have 12 year old kids running around the work place, taking care of the needs of millionaires, fetching them their soiled towels, holding umbrellas over their head, picking up their trash, giving them water bottles and going unpaid.

by Anonymousreply 13709/29/2018

Rios made Nastase look like Kim Clijsters. What a surly motherfucker.

by Anonymousreply 13809/29/2018

God, I love Pospisil. Thank you forever, R113.

by Anonymousreply 13909/29/2018

[quote}in Wuhan, Sabalenka wins her second career title def. Kontaveit 6-3 6-3

Sabalenka with her coach Dmitry Tursunov

by Anonymousreply 14009/30/2018

If Sabalenka is able to control her nerves and keep the focus she will be a top player in no time

by Anonymousreply 14109/30/2018

Tomic and Nishioka wins Chengdau and Shenzen. Both in 3 sets

by Anonymousreply 14209/30/2018

[quote]Tomic and Nishioka win Chengdu and Shenzen

Tomic looked really happy with the win, he's back in the top 100 again

Scone Stephens just won her 1st match on the Asian Swing in 3 years

by Anonymousreply 14309/30/2018

happy to see another first time ATP winner. Nishioka in particular. He was rising quickly in 2017 but then ruptured his ACL.

I hope Sloane can qualify for the YEC but there are several contenders who have a chance as well

by Anonymousreply 14409/30/2018

Don't tell Serena, Martina Hingis is going to have a baby!

by Anonymousreply 14509/30/2018

whoa i've NEVER seen Sloane get so angry before

Pavlyuchenkova called for the trainer just before Sloane was serving for the second set I think it was 5-2. Sloane went on to win that set 6-4 (and the third set too). She was having words with the umpire for allowing it when Pavlyuchenkova overheard the conversation and came over to call Sloane "disrespectful". They went back and forth before the umpire had them both go back to their sides. Then after in a point, Pavyluchenkova tried to hit Sloane with an overhead. Sloane won the point and as she turned around said "this fucking bitch tried to hit me" lol drama!

by Anonymousreply 14609/30/2018

Jack Sock will be defending 1,545 of his 1,850 singles ranking points from now (China Open in Beijing starts tomorrow) until the end of the season

by Anonymousreply 14709/30/2018

Poor, adorable PHH :-(

by Anonymousreply 14809/30/2018


by Anonymousreply 14909/30/2018

ATP service for the AZverev-Melo fan

by Anonymousreply 15009/30/2018

after winning back-to-back challengers, Mmoh has now debuted in the top 100 at #96 !!! Looks like he'll at least start next draw in several main draw ATP tournaments

by Anonymousreply 15109/30/2018

R150 we no longer have a Melo-Zverev fan here. Was it ESL?

by Anonymousreply 15209/30/2018

I'm a Melo/Zverev fan, R152, and not ESL, but it seemed to me that nobody was that interested in them here, so I mostly stopped mentioning them.

by Anonymousreply 15309/30/2018

Embarrassing outdoor hardcourt loss for Coric to 37 year old #71 Lopez!

by Anonymousreply 15409/30/2018

Is Rafa injured are just relaxing?

by Anonymousreply 15509/30/2018

he had that knee injury at the USO so he's out for now. Not sure when he'll play again

by Anonymousreply 15609/30/2018

I don’t think ESL has gone far.

by Anonymousreply 15710/01/2018

Rafa didn't want to play Davis Cup indoors vs. France, hence the 'injury'.

by Anonymousreply 15810/01/2018

Please, no more homo fanfic for Zverev and Melo. It was nonsense to wade through that shit.

by Anonymousreply 15910/01/2018

Zverev and Melo is very difficult to believe, they are even clearly joking about it.

An openly gay tennis players shouldn't be that hard to find but i suppose we'll have to wait some years

by Anonymousreply 16010/01/2018

maybe if we dig hard, we can find a gay in the top 500. somewhere

by Anonymousreply 16110/01/2018

[quote] maybe if we dig hard, we can find a gay in the top 500. somewhere

In the WTA they’re everywhere!

by Anonymousreply 16210/01/2018

R161: There's probably more than one gay player in the top 200 (simple estadistics) but i doubt they'll come out in a near future

by Anonymousreply 16310/01/2018

yup all we have currently is retired former top 15 Gambill and retired journeyman Vahaly

by Anonymousreply 16410/01/2018

Gasquet is obviously gay tho.

by Anonymousreply 16510/01/2018

R165 It's not true. I've kissed him

by Anonymousreply 16610/01/2018

Was Gambill journeyman?

by Anonymousreply 16710/01/2018

^ yeah. A hot one, though.

Rafa is gay.

by Anonymousreply 16810/01/2018

I rubbed one out to that pic of Porna. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 16910/01/2018


"Beginning in January 2019, the Tennis Channel will be the U.S. television and digital media home of the WTA, featuring Premier and International tournaments as well as the WTA Finals."

by Anonymousreply 17010/01/2018

That’s compelling, R170.

by Anonymousreply 17110/01/2018

Truly compelling, r170.

by Anonymousreply 17210/01/2018

thank you

by Anonymousreply 17310/01/2018

Noone but the tennis channel would have the WTA. Tennis Channel must’ve received quite a discount from the WTA to unload all their tournaments onto them.

by Anonymousreply 17410/01/2018

The ball kid pings (the sweat of male tennis players, indeed), and says a lot of interesting things about being a ball kid.

What shocked me, though, is that the ball kids are told to expect abusive language from players and to stand there and take it. Players who behave like Verdasco should be fined, and NO player should think of ball kids as their personal slaves and towel-bearers. Players never used to ask for a towel after each rally until about ten years ago, and now every player seems to be using that offensively off-handed palm-hovering-around-face gesture, sometimes without even looking in the ball kid’s direction, when summoning a towel. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 17510/02/2018

Ostapenko was double bageled by some random Chinese player.

Such depth of the WTA tour!

by Anonymousreply 17610/02/2018

R175 and I don't understand why the ballkids don't get the same respect as the chair umpire. I agree it should not be OK to be rude or verbally abusive to a ballkid/adult

by Anonymousreply 17710/02/2018

R176 she's not random. She's currently having a hot streak and recently broke into the top 30 with 2 titles this year. Ostapenko shouldn't have been double bageled by her Qiang Wang is not some random scrub

how about Cilic choking a 6-5 in the third set lead to lose to journeyman Struff?

by Anonymousreply 17810/02/2018

R166: It's funny that the kiss excuse is the one Shawn Barber used too (he came out months later)

by Anonymousreply 17910/02/2018

Apparently Sascha has a girlfriend now...

Btw., I was rereading old threads and there seemed to be some speculation about Djokovic being bi? Does anyone still think that?

by Anonymousreply 18010/02/2018

What girlfriend? Did Melo wear a dress??

by Anonymousreply 18110/02/2018

A girlfriend is almost mandatory if you are prominent enough (unless you don't mind gay rumours).

Anyway, Sascha is like a typical straight teen with a big ego. I find curious that he has gay rumours at all (his relationship with Melo seems similar to what he had with his big bro, and Melo seems to have a teen mentality too)

by Anonymousreply 18210/02/2018

[quote] his relationship with Melo seems similar to what he had with his big bro

M. Zverev?

by Anonymousreply 18310/02/2018

R182 some athletes are very immature as they didn't go through the whole school process. I'll never forget Jankovic complaining a few years ago that a lot of them "have never seen the inside of a classroom". You don't have to be that mature if you're an athlete or entertainer.

by Anonymousreply 18410/02/2018

R184: True, if you are not bright and you don't have a real interest in knowing what's happening around you you can look dumb as a rock in interviews.

That's not Zverev case, he simply looks very inmature, he has a lot of teenage traits and an ego difficult to hide. He can be charming too when he wants.

I think the Federer/Nadal strategy to not get themselves in hot waters keeping the conversation focused on tennis maybe make them less interesting as characters but in the long run keep them for putting their feet in their mouth more often.

AT least in tennis being well spoken, like to read and arts and being smart is not something that makes you suspicious like in soccer (they seems to like their idols the dumber the better)

by Anonymousreply 18510/02/2018

According to rumors, it is Ivan who pushed Melo out of Sasha's life.

by Anonymousreply 18610/03/2018

Rumours where? And any source for the girlfriend news?

by Anonymousreply 18710/03/2018

Didn't someone post that Melo and Sascha were together in Beijing just this week? So he's hardly been pushed out?

by Anonymousreply 18810/03/2018

Someone posted a photo of them alone at a restaurant together but they were not sitting next to each other as straight bros do.

by Anonymousreply 18910/03/2018

Melo is in Sascha's story from a few minutes ago. The alleged gf was at his 1st round match.

by Anonymousreply 19010/03/2018

Well, to be fair, an athlete (or an actor, singer) doesn't need to do anything to "have a girlfriend". He only needs to be seen in public with an appropiate girl to the rumours spread like butter. PDA is not needed and he can even go full Shawn Mendes and saying she is just a friend, the rumours will spread if his team wants (or even if a journalist wants).

I always cringe when some (not all) sport journalist ask about the dating life of an athlete. And they sometimes are very eager to spread gay rumours. Italian journalists seem to be very pressed about Marc Márquez sexuality, everytime there's a conflict with Valentino Rossi, you have the "Marquez likes to go to gay bars" in the italian press.

Saying that, Zverev needs to make some changes in his life, i don't know if he is too focused on his career not focused enough, but he needs to find a balance between his job and his personal life. Right now he has in a position of advantage, he is a top player for some time, the other young players are not there. We'll see if hitting machine Djokovic last or he'll be erratic again, but if Zverev is not the first young player in winning a GS the pressure could be too much for him

by Anonymousreply 19110/03/2018

Richard Gasquet def. Nick Kyrgios 7-6 7-6 to reach the QFs in Tokyo. Alex De Minaur will be the new Australian number 1 on Monday

by Anonymousreply 19210/04/2018

Aryna Sabalenka comes back from 5-7, 3-5 to beat the defending champion Caroline Garcia 5-7, 7-6(3), 6-0 in Beijing and make the QFs.

Keeps her Singapore dream alive.

by Anonymousreply 19310/04/2018

A. Zverev looks awful under artificial lighting.

by Anonymousreply 19410/04/2018

Maybe Goffin is gay..he kind of pings

by Anonymousreply 19510/04/2018

Sabalenka has played an awful lot since the Open. She better hope to win Beijing otherwise she has to fly to Moscow and win a few rounds there to qualify before flying back to Singapore. She might not have anything left. She's quite a bit out of the last spot. Even a runner-up finish in Beijing leaves her at #10 in the Singapore race, roughly 200 points from the last spot. Halep has a herniated disc so I assume she will bow out, or show up and get bageled again before withdrawing. Alternates likely will play.

by Anonymousreply 19610/04/2018

Probably the best point of the season

BTW Sasha lost to Malek

by Anonymousreply 19710/04/2018

“Al” Jaziri

by Anonymousreply 19810/04/2018

Is Lendl there with A Zverev?

by Anonymousreply 19910/04/2018

Yes, R199.

by Anonymousreply 20010/04/2018

Dimitrov and Sock's rankings are going to take major hits after the WTF as neither will qualify

Same with Venus for the YEC

Qiang Wang def. Pliskova for the second week in a row

by Anonymousreply 20110/04/2018

[quote]Sabalenka has played an awful lot since the Open. She better hope to win Beijing otherwise she has to fly to Moscow and win a few rounds there to qualify before flying back to Singapore

I think she's playing in Tianjin before Moscow as's only an 'International' though, so she'll probably withdraw if she wins Beijing

by Anonymousreply 20210/04/2018

R195: Goffin has a gilrfriend and i think she is previous to his rise on the rankings

by Anonymousreply 20310/04/2018

sometimes it's hard to tell with Euro guys. "Euro or gay?" is a common question

by Anonymousreply 20410/04/2018

[quote] sometimes it's hard to tell with Euro guys. "Euro or gay?" is a common question

Does the same apply to Euro gnomes?

by Anonymousreply 20510/04/2018

Dimitrov will be a dangerous floater at the Aussie Open-- his ranking is going to sink. Sock's will too, but he's less dangerous. And Stan is playing well again--it's only a matter of time before he starts beating the big guys again.

by Anonymousreply 20610/04/2018

Agreed, R203. Lots of pics of them together online.

by Anonymousreply 20710/04/2018

Local favorite Qiang Wang ends Aryna Sabalenka’s winning streak with a 7-5, 7-5 win to reach the last 4 in Beijing. I don't think Sabalenka is able to make the WTA Finals after this loss

Beijing WTA SF:

Anastasija Sevastova vs. Naomi Osaka

Wang Qiang vs. Caroline Wozniacki

Beijing ATP SF:

Juan Martín Del Potro vs. Fabio Fognini

Kyle Edmund vs. Nikoloz Basilashvili

by Anonymousreply 20810/05/2018

Sabalenka could be an alternate and play if someone like Halep, who is injured, retires.

by Anonymousreply 20910/05/2018

Halep will probably pull out of the YEC and Kerber, Osaka, Kvitova and Wozniacki have qualified. If Halep doesn't play, that leaves open 4 more spots between Stephens, Svitolina, Pliskova, Bertens and Sabalenka. Mertens had a shot but lost early in all the Asian events so I think she could only be an alternate at this point.

by Anonymousreply 21010/05/2018

'Moni' (aka 'Money') Halep seems pretty determined to play Singapore

by Anonymousreply 21110/05/2018

Does Halep need help?

by Anonymousreply 21210/05/2018

Halep does a lousy job of managing her schedule and taking care of herself. Playing through back injuries?? Ask Tracy Austin how well that worked out. Or Tiger Woods if you want a recent example even though he's older. Just because both tours insist on prolonging the season beyond the point it makes sense doesn't mean you have to play. Kudos to Nadal and Serena for recognizing this.

by Anonymousreply 21310/05/2018

Should they get rid of the much-vaunted Asian swing and move the “year-end” championship to October? Shout there even be a YEC?

by Anonymousreply 21410/05/2018

Sabalenka should take some time to adjust after becoming a top player out of the blue and work in improving her mentality. She has potential but given that she never was a top junior player i doubt she thought she could get that high so soon (and right now her level is better than her ranking)

by Anonymousreply 21510/05/2018

They only play the Asian Swing because the Chinese government subsidizes the tournaments on the WTA side to a huge degree. The WTA's contact for the year end championships which will be moved to China is enormous even though ticket sales won't pay for it at all.

by Anonymousreply 21610/05/2018

Shanghai draw out. Nadal isn't playing but I think everyone else is

by Anonymousreply 21710/05/2018

Who is everyone?

by Anonymousreply 21810/05/2018

I wouldn't be surprised if Simona is just concentrating on making as much money as she can, while she can. Perhaps she considered surgery and decided 'You know what? Fuck it! There's no guarantee surgery will work so I'm just gonna turn up and get paid"

by Anonymousreply 21910/06/2018

C'mon, Frankie, this is no Legends Tour!

by Anonymousreply 22010/06/2018

Wozniacki-Sevastova final in Beijing. Both semis ended in 2 sets

Nishikori-Medvedev in Tokyo

by Anonymousreply 22110/06/2018

R221: Not very exciting finals. Medvedev is playing better lately but i doubt he'll be able to defeat Nishikori. Kei maybe is unable to step up and win against top players (at least no in finals) but he is like a wall when he plays younger players.

Osaka is struggling a bit to capitalize the good result in New York. She is not losing in the first rounds but she is unable to win either, and frankly Sevastova should not be that difficult to defeat right now

by Anonymousreply 22210/06/2018

and also in Beijing Del Potro got a walkover from Fognini and will play Basilashvili who def. Edmund

by Anonymousreply 22310/06/2018

Medvedev rolled over Nishikori

by Anonymousreply 22410/07/2018

[quote]Medvedev rolled over Nishikori

wow, I think Kei lost his last 8 finals

by Anonymousreply 22510/07/2018

Poor Kei, but it's good that Medveded after so many time without improving is showing signs that he could be more than a journeyman.

But with russians you never know, they are headcases most of the time. No matter how much talent, they had a tendency to blow their chances. Even Safin who is by far the most prominent is an underachiever (that AO against Johannson was clear sign that no matter if he was able to defeat Federer, he was able to lose against an inferior rival at a big final too)

by Anonymousreply 22610/07/2018

Wtf? Halep is still playing Moscow and Singapore after announcing her serious back injury.

by Anonymousreply 22710/07/2018

Basilashvili was on fire this week. He wins Beijing

by Anonymousreply 22810/07/2018

[quote]Basilashvili was on fire this week. He wins Beijing

that's one big ass trophy he won

by Anonymousreply 22910/07/2018

[quote]Wtf? Halep is still playing Moscow and Singapore after announcing her serious back injury.

Back pain? We've heard it's a serious side effect of straight sex but for some reason never goes beyond 9 months.

by Anonymousreply 23010/07/2018

Jack Sock is in danger of falling out of the Top 100 by year's end with all the points he needs to defend from Paris and YEC.

by Anonymousreply 23110/07/2018

and he just lost yesterday first round in Shanghai. Soon he'll be playing ex doubles bff Pospisil in challengers

by Anonymousreply 23210/07/2018

While I'm not a Sock fan, I'm very interested in this train wreck of a season. It's easy to forget he was Top 25 for about a year before winning Paris and launching into the Top Ten. Clearly, if he wants to continue to play singles, he needs to return to the Challengers to rebuild his ranking. Or, will he stay on the main tour and focus on doubles? He's still very capable of winning at top level doubles, and players can make a nice living by succeeding in doubles only.

If he did want to focus on rehabbing his singles, he should have probably dropped down to Challengers after Wimbledon or The US Open, because the longer he waits the more this will eat at his confidence. I can't help but feel he's getting some bad advice from his coach, family, and/or management team.

by Anonymousreply 23310/07/2018

Raonic should be ashamed of himself.

by Anonymousreply 23410/08/2018

R234 Why?

by Anonymousreply 23510/08/2018

He lost to some turkey burger from MacDonald

by Anonymousreply 23610/08/2018

If this is a turkey burger, I'll order a dozen.

by Anonymousreply 23710/08/2018

R233 Or he might be too stubborn to take advice. And to be fair to him, many of the matches he has lost have been in 3 sets, so it's not like he is getting routed and has completely forgotten how to play at ATP level. He might be hoping to turn it around in ATP tournaments as long as he can enter them without having to qualify. Iirc he tried to qualify on grass and lost there too... Apparently Paris counts in the points race for the Aus Open wildcard for Americans, so if he finds some form there, he could conceivably get the WC. And he can probably count on WCs for American tournaments as well. (Not a fan either, and find the whole thing interesting too)

by Anonymousreply 23810/08/2018

Sock's ego is enormous. I doubt he'll drop down to challengers; instead he'll beg for WCs at tournaments.

by Anonymousreply 23910/08/2018

Sock is #157 in the Live ATP Race provisional rankings.

by Anonymousreply 24010/08/2018

R233: More than rebuild his ranking he needs to rebuild his confidence. He was a trainwreck the whole season.

When you start losing sometimes it's better to down your expectations and play some minor tournament.

It happens all time. Nicola Kuhn was getting into the top 200 at 18, suddenly he had an injury on a toe and spend a bunch of months without playing. He returned on the same kind of tournaments he was playing and it's not working at all. But instead of playing some 25k to try to win some matches and gain confidence he is sticking in the kind of tournaments he was playing before the injury. That and some back luck in the draws and he will probably end the year outside top 300 even when he has no points to defend

by Anonymousreply 24110/08/2018

David Ferrer just won a challenger title.

by Anonymousreply 24210/08/2018

Over Ivo Karlovic, too. #geritol

by Anonymousreply 24310/08/2018

Yes Sock is stubborn. At the start of the season before 1 of his matches aired I saw a segment about his regimen. He lives in Kansas City, originally from Omaha. He refuses to move or at least spend a significant amount of time training in Florida or California where the majority of American and a good number of other professional players are. Clearly his diet is shit as he's flabby. He's fitter than when he first came on tour but it's clear he enjoys a "middle American" diet. You can't out-train a horrible diet either. He was doing more stretching and preventative work from what I saw. I saw a similar program for Isner before that. They don't go as hard at training as someone like a Thiem

by Anonymousreply 24410/08/2018

Kyrgios is also fat and lazy but he's taller and a better athlete than his friend Sock. He also wears a girdle like shirt to hide his flab.

by Anonymousreply 24510/08/2018

Sock is journeyman.

by Anonymousreply 24610/08/2018

We never talk about Roberto Bautista Agut anymore since he came out as heterosexual. What does our Spanish poster think of him?

by Anonymousreply 24710/08/2018

I am also interested in how Jack Sock went from a solid top 25 player to an unexpected top 10 player and now dropping out of the top 100 player in a year. Winning the Paris Masters seems to have had a huge detrimental effect on his career. For comparison, John Isner has only played better since he won his Masters earlier this year.

by Anonymousreply 24810/08/2018

Game-wise Sock's forehand is massive with tons of spin but because of his wonky grip, he can litter errors off that side if his timing is off. There's more of a chance that his timing goes off because of the big take-back and weird grip. If you rush him on that side and he doesn't have time to set up, he's fucked. His backhand is more compact but that side is always error-prone, more so than his forehand. His volleys are pretty solid which makes sense as he's had a lot of doubles success

by Anonymousreply 24910/08/2018

Recently Cilic and Del Po turned 30. and now first time in the history of ATP we don't have any active grand slam winner under 30.

Forget about winner we have only 2 active players under 30 who have reached a grand slam final Domi and Kei.

And Kei is turning 30 next year

by Anonymousreply 25010/08/2018

ohh sorry Milos is third one.I completly forgot about him.

by Anonymousreply 25110/08/2018

How long before Tiafoe is US no. 1?

by Anonymousreply 25210/09/2018

JM Gambill went to see Keith Urban with Coco (and Shelby Rogers)

by Anonymousreply 25310/09/2018

And then?

by Anonymousreply 25410/09/2018

R247: I think our future is very dark when Rafa retires (unless Kuhn and Davidovich are able to translate junior success into pro stardom). We have a good bunch of good journeyman (Carreño, Bautista Agut, Munar) but absolutely nobody to really fight for big tournaments (and our top 100 players are very very old). After Rafa is dark dark void

by Anonymousreply 25510/09/2018

In 5 years, Kyrgios and Sock will own a tennis academy and sit around drinking beer. Both are barely athletes. More like frat bros who don't know when it's time to stop hanging out with the undergrads.

by Anonymousreply 25610/09/2018

The ATP failing to sell tickets in China.

by Anonymousreply 25710/10/2018

Federer's had 2 consecutive 3 set matches...rusty or losing his touch?

by Anonymousreply 25810/11/2018

Year-End Championships

by Anonymousreply 25910/11/2018


by Anonymousreply 26010/11/2018

Boobs out.

by Anonymousreply 26110/11/2018

JMG bought a shirt!

by Anonymousreply 26210/12/2018

I’m glad the women’s events are coming back to the Tennis Channel. The BeIN tennis coverage was embarrassing for both the network and the WTA, which deludedly believed it was their ticket to stardom and respect.

by Anonymousreply 26310/12/2018

Federer is having a very nice draw (no matter the three sets matches). Djokovic-Zverev should be interesting

by Anonymousreply 26410/12/2018

Porna legz

by Anonymousreply 26510/12/2018

Porna is going to face 🐐 again. Will he prevail for a second time this season?

by Anonymousreply 26610/12/2018

Porna needs to sit on my face.

by Anonymousreply 26710/12/2018

I see Federer going into decline this next year. I highly doubt he will repeat in Australia unless the draw falls apart and he's the last one standing. He always has a shot at Wimbledon if he catches fire. Djokovic looks like he has the desire back, so watch out ATP. Nadal is the big question mark for me. He played remarkably well this past year. He would have won Wimbledon if he'd gotten by Djokovic, but as we've seen many times, his knees started to give out by the US Open.

The Young Guns of the ATP are still a question mark. Thiem came so, so close to beating Nadal at the US Open. I think that's a match he should have won. Zverev needs to figure out how to play best of five. But there are a lot of young guys who could mature and really become the next #1--Tsistipas, Coric, Khachanov, Shapavalov--the list goes on, but like Zverev they seem to struggle in five set matches.

As for the veterans, Del Potro--I don't know. I think his body is too fragile for him to ever really make a breakthrough and win multiple Slams, but I could see him adding another one or two before he calls it a day. Cilic has played well the last two years, but mentally he'll never be the strongest. With Murray, it's all about his body and whether it can take any more. Like Cilic, Anderson has had nice results the last two years, but it's hard for me to see him ever winning a Slam--maybe one only at the most. Wawrinka is always a threat if he gets his game back. Nishikori is too fragile.

We'll see what 2019 brings us. By the end of this year, though, I think Djokovic will be back to #1.

by Anonymousreply 26810/12/2018

Thank you, R268, for naming all the Big Four.

by Anonymousreply 26910/12/2018

Atp is interesting right now, they could end being like wta at the end of the 90's with a good bunch of veterans and new players fighting for GS.

On the other hand wta is on a slump, the big names are near to retire, the top players are not consistent and there's no teen prodigy to catch the attention of fans. Even rising stars like Osaka or Sabalenka don't look like a sure shot for the next year

by Anonymousreply 27010/12/2018

"ATP is interesting right now" huh? with the same damn people winning all the slams that's interesting to you? There are always young players coming on tour every year. It seems like we have a good bunch now but until 1 of them wins a slam the ATP won't be that interesting.

by Anonymousreply 27110/12/2018

R271 so true

by Anonymousreply 27210/12/2018

R271: Atp is interesting right now because it's the end of an era. I doubt Djokovic will dominate as he used to do, and Nadal and Federer and near retirement, and there's a good bunch of new player who could be the next best thing (or ending being journeymen)

by Anonymousreply 27310/12/2018

Well, the WTA has the opposite problem. Every tournament is open and no one is consistent. None of the recent slam winners have star power (Kerber, Wozniacki, Halep, Stevens) that will draw in new fans or the consistency to win a large number of slams. Osaka is still relatively young, so she may develop into something, but we'll have to see if she survives the post-slam slump first.

Venus, Serena, and Sharapova are the only big names that the general public would know. Once they retire, the WTA will struggle mightily.

by Anonymousreply 27410/12/2018

and in the late 90s/early 2000s critics were saying the opposite. You never knew who was going to win any ATP event during that period and a lot of people said "that's exciting". Conversely they said the WTA was boring because it was usually the same handful of players winning the big events. Now the situations have reversed yet the men are still being praised.

by Anonymousreply 27510/12/2018

R247 and in the ATP? Federer and Nadal are the only superstars. Djokovic is a superstar in tennis but not that popular outside of it. Murray has the benefit of being British so he's the 4th best known even though he's far less accomplished. If Federer and Nadal left the game right now, the tour would be in trouble.

Both tours need to develop new stars. At least people like Sloane and Osaka have won slams and have the potential for more but we need to see how consistent they will turn out to be. The ATP is in worse shape as no one under 30 has a slam! How is that interesting?

by Anonymousreply 27610/12/2018

[quote] Murray has the benefit of being British so he's the 4th best known even though he's far less accomplished.

But he’s a knight!

by Anonymousreply 27710/12/2018

“Interesting”. What does that word mean?

by Anonymousreply 27810/12/2018

R276: Right now the popularity of atp and wta are not even in the same league. I think americans don't have a proper perspective because they don't have a star on the atp and they have the biggest star on the wta, but the USA is very far from being the only important market

Atp has a good bunch of consistent players. Maybe they are not superstars but they are able to perform week after week. You don't have that at the wta, not even their top players are able to play well more than a couple of week in a row

by Anonymousreply 27910/12/2018

[quote] but the USA is very far from being the only important market

Quite. That’s why there is the much-vaunted Asian swing.

by Anonymousreply 28010/12/2018

With the WTA, the quality players are mental midgets and have been for years. Also, there are too many highly ranked players who just aren't that good or exciting to watch. The players who should be consistently winning Slams based on their abilities (e.g., Kvitova, Mugurutha) just shit the bed after winning big. Kerber is consistent, but frankly I'm surprised she's one French Open away from a career Slam. Pushers like Wozniacki have won Slams, and other pushers like Svitolina are highly ranked (Top 5). Sloane Stephens and Madison Keys should be challenging for Slams at every tournament, but Sloane's interest seems to fade in and out (although she was a bit more consistent this year), and Keys is a head case. Halep makes and unexciting #1, and she only won the French this year because Sloane imploded in the final.

The ATP seems to have more quality young players, but they struggle in 5 sets in the Slams. Players like Zverev, Thiem and Tsitsipas can win important non-Slam tournaments, but at the Slams they consistently disappoint. Thiem did well to get to the French final, but then folded like a hand of cards against Nadal in the final. It was a poor effort. Then there is the mid-to-late-20s Lost Generation like Dimitrov et al. Then of course we have the veteran Big 4, which is now a Big 3, who are tenaciously holding on to the biggest prizes in tennis.

It does ebb and flow between which tour is the more exciting. Right now, I'd give the edge to the ATP. In five years, who knows? I hope Osaka lives up to her promise. I've just seen too many WTA players these past few years fade after a breakthrough.

by Anonymousreply 28110/12/2018

ATP is boring right now. Chinese are only showing up to watch Roger. Everyone else its an empty stadium, even worse than Dubai

by Anonymousreply 28210/12/2018

[quote] Then of course we have the veteran Big 4, which is now a Big 3

I should wash your mouth out with soap, young man.

by Anonymousreply 28310/12/2018

uh you want to talk about lack of mental toughness? The ATP lost generation fits that bill completely. Dimitrov? Nishikori? Raonic? Those were supposed to be the big challengers to the GOAT generation but all they have is 2 slam finals between them. Dimitrov after having his best year on tour last year with Cincinnati and the WTF wins was a COMPLETE FLOP this season. Nishikori doesn't have enough power and Raonic doesn't have that intensity if you can get back his serve and forehand.

You think fuckin' Isner having his best year this year by winning Miami and reaching the Wimbledon SF at the age of 33 is a good look for the tour? I don't mind Anderson because he can serve, return serve and has good groundstrokes but Isner is unwatchable. Most tennis fans don't like Isner either because of how dull he is (even if you ignore his deplorable-ness).

by Anonymousreply 28410/12/2018

I want this guy's job lol

by Anonymousreply 28510/12/2018

There's something swollen high up on the thigh!

by Anonymousreply 28610/12/2018

I'm encouraged by Osaka and Sabalenka.

Osaka really came through in a US Open final even though Serena tried every trick in the book to throw her off. And she's done pretty well in Asia, not winning events, but not flaming out in the first round either (see: Stephens, Sloane). She could be a huge draw internationally, too.

Sabalenka has also looked strong in the last few months. Obviously, she needs to maintain next year, but she certainly has the game. It's between the ears for her. But I like what I see.

I think Stephens is probably the other biggest potential name to lead the tour if she can rack up some major titles. No offense to Halep, Pliskova, Svitolina, Kerber, and Muguruza, but they all appear to lack the "it" factor. Even if one of those players could win 2 or 3 majors next year, I suspect it would be met by the general public with a collective yawn.

The criticism of the ATP is fair, but at least the old names (Federer, Nadal, Djokovic) are still winning when it matters. Contrast with Williams x 2 and Sharapova, who just haven't been able to win. That's a big difference in the last 2 years.

by Anonymousreply 28710/12/2018

Djokovic is playing at such a high level now. Really enjoying watching him.

by Anonymousreply 28810/12/2018

I worry about Del Potro dealing with pain next year from his existing injuries, and Roger dealing with back issues.

by Anonymousreply 28910/12/2018

Djokovic just sent A. Zverev home 6-2/6-1.

Pique is also there in shanghai. Probably trying to get Djokovic and Federer onboard with his Davis Cup reform plan.

by Anonymousreply 290Last Saturday at 2:44 AM

R290: Try to convice Federer is just a waste of time, Federer never cared about Davis cup, only when he thought he was going to retire without winning it started to care about it. And frankly he won it because Stan was there. So no matter is he thinks is ok the new davis cup or not, his opinion doesn't matter at all.

Djokovic is a totally different story, if Pique is able to get Djokovic and Nadal on board it doesn't matter if people like Zverev say they don't care about the new Davis Cup, the problem is Nole is not convinced at all, and trust that Nadal will be perfect by the end of the year is a question of faith

by Anonymousreply 291Last Saturday at 2:57 AM

R285, the line starts behind me, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 292Last Saturday at 3:07 AM

As I have said before, I really like that these two seem close

by Anonymousreply 293Last Saturday at 4:21 AM

Porna should just play naked. His body is a thing of beauty.

by Anonymousreply 294Last Saturday at 4:50 AM

Coric is playing well, but Federer is WAY off his game today. He's gone back to the inconsistent Fed we saw from 2013-2016, playing brilliantly one day and serving up a shank-fest the next.

by Anonymousreply 295Last Saturday at 5:11 AM

Porna has done it again!

by Anonymousreply 296Last Saturday at 5:26 AM

Amazing reversals during 2018 from Federer and Djokovic.

Federer started hot, winning his first 17 matches this year to take the Aussie Open and Rotterdam titles before losing the Indian Wells final to Del Porto. Since that time, he's lost in 6 of the 7 events he's played, and the one win (Stuttgart) was an event that featured no other players in the Top 15.

Djokovic started the year playing .500 tennis, and hit the low point losing back to back opening matches at Indian Wells and Miami. Started to recover his form on clay, and now since Wimbledon has gone 27-1, winning 2 more majors, and the one big title he had never won in his career (Cincinnati). He'll pass Federer to reclaim No. 2 this week, and if he wins Shanghai tomorrow, he'll be just 50 points in back of Nadal in the 2018 Race.

The last six months have just been a huge turnaround from how this year originally was shaping up.

by Anonymousreply 297Last Saturday at 5:47 AM

Love Novak. He makes you play so many extra shots that Zverev just cracked.

Fed please retire before it starts getting embarrassing. I know he wants to win 110 titles to pass Connors but I think it's gonna be hard unless he starts playing mostly 500 events.

by Anonymousreply 298Last Saturday at 6:10 AM

Boobies, boobies, boobies!

by Anonymousreply 299Last Saturday at 6:43 AM

I'm watching the Coric/Federer match now, on a replay since I'm in California. Why is Borna's thigh wrapped? Lots of very pleasant close-ups of his thigh. New tattoo?

by Anonymousreply 300Last Saturday at 7:45 AM

A slight injury, R300. If you want to watch him receive treatment...and more, check out this account

by Anonymousreply 301Last Saturday at 8:41 AM

Zverev has definitely hit a wall so far. He's unable to defeat Nadal, had no answer for a much-better-playing Djokovic and still struggles at slams. I realize he's young so he's got plenty of time to improve but his level this year hasn't been better than last year.

I had a feeling Federer would have a tough time today. He wasn't having an easy time at this tournament except for the Nishikori match (Kei seems to have regressed himself). Coric is improving which is nice to see.

Now we'll see Djokoivic vs. baby Djokovic. I expect Djokovic to win in straights but it'd be nice if Borna could surprise us

Qiang Wang continues her hot streak in Asia and reaches the Hong Kong final by defeating Muguruza in a marathon 3 setter after having defeated Svitolina easily in the previous round. She'll face 18 year-old Dayana Yastremska of Ukraine

In Tianjin, Pliskova will face Garcia

In Linz, Giorgi has continued her resurgence this year by reaching the final and will face Alexandrova.

by Anonymousreply 302Last Saturday at 8:48 AM

Zverev was bulging the entire match--I've never seen him bulge before. It was nice.

by Anonymousreply 303Last Saturday at 9:34 AM

Yesterday Zverev and Tsisipas both wearing the same tennis shorts. Tsispas looked much bigger than Zverev though

by Anonymousreply 304Last Saturday at 10:02 AM

If Djokovic recaptures No. 1 at Paris (a very real possibility), he'll probably finish out the year at No. 1, tie Federer for the most year-end No. 1s (6), and would be 78 weeks behind Federer for total weeks spent at No. 1... Would need to spend 18 more months at the top to pass Federer. And while Federer has six more Slam titles than Novak, I'm guessing that could shrink to three or four in another year.

I don't think I'd say it's likely, but it's a very real possibility Novak passes Roger in those categories, which would leave Federer very little claim on the title of GOAT. Mirka's probably sewing a Djokovic voodoo doll as I type this.

by Anonymousreply 305Last Saturday at 12:09 PM

A. Zverev should never play in indoor arenas.

by Anonymousreply 306Last Saturday at 2:05 PM

Hopefully Djokovic will be challenged next year or the atp will be very boring.

by Anonymousreply 307Last Saturday at 2:24 PM

In WTA world boring = compelling.

by Anonymousreply 308Last Saturday at 2:30 PM

The ATP has interesting players (Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Del Porto, Zverev, Dimitrov, Kyrgios, Fognini, Coric, Tsisipas, etc.), but relatively dull and predictable results.

The WTA has interesting results, but with the exception of the Williams sisters and Sharapova, dull and bland players (Halep, Wozniacki, Pliskova, Svitolina, Kerber, Kvitova, Garcia, Keys, Muguruza). Hopefully Osaka can turn the tide.

by Anonymousreply 309Last Saturday at 2:38 PM

Haha, r308, in his (solo) podcast this week, where he’s interviewing the great Judie Hellman (daughter of Gladys Heldman), Ben Rothenburg actually says, sans irony, that the WTA tour is so great today as the number 5 playing the number 35 would be a “compelling” match.

I looked up today’s WTA rankings, and that very compelling match would be between Svitolina and Pavlyuchenkova. I could skip my sleeping draft with that match and still get a solid night’s sleep.

by Anonymousreply 310Last Saturday at 2:49 PM

ova, pavlyuchenk

by Anonymousreply 311Last Saturday at 2:51 PM

[quote]Ben Rothenburg actually says, sans irony, that the WTA tour is so great today

I think he believes if he keeps saying it, it will come true. The harsh reality is that 90% of the tour is void of personality. And tennis is a sport that sustains itself on personality.

by Anonymousreply 312Last Saturday at 3:08 PM

Yastremska demolished Wang

Garcia beats Pliskova

by Anonymousreply 313Last Sunday at 1:31 AM

[quote]Yastremska demolished Wang

apparently Justine Henin is Yastremska's 'special consultant' (she trains at her academy in Belgium)

by Anonymousreply 314Last Sunday at 2:44 AM

Yastremska was always a top player on u14, u 16 and juniors but she is rising her level really fast. She'll be top 100 next week

by Anonymousreply 315Last Sunday at 3:02 AM

Porna lost. I volunteer to console his sweaty ass.

by Anonymousreply 316Last Sunday at 3:05 AM

R305, Federer was year-end Number 1 five times, not six. If Djokovic finishes 2018 as #1 on the ATP, which I fully expect him to do, he will tie Pete Sampras, who finished year-end Number 1 six times in a row from 1993-1998. Federer, however, has the most total weeks at #1 and the most consecutive weeks at #1, so odd that he doesn't have the most year-end Number 1s. But there you have it.

by Anonymousreply 317Last Sunday at 4:13 AM

Djokovic is looking very much in form again. He beat Coric easily and looked like he had an extra gear or two that he didn't have to reach for.

by Anonymousreply 318Last Sunday at 6:12 AM

Djokovic was playing well the whole year, but he lacked confidence so he lost some important matches. Wimbledon changes everything, now he is confident and rose his level. In tennis sometimes a win can make a big difference (specially for the younger players)

by Anonymousreply 319Last Sunday at 7:02 AM

Humbert beats Herbert to win Ortisei challenger

by Anonymousreply 320Last Sunday at 7:18 AM

Humbert Humbert?

by Anonymousreply 321Last Sunday at 7:30 AM

It looks like at a minimum, Djoker will hold all 4 slams again and possibly have a calendar year slam as well. Poor Roger will be lucky to stay in the top ten next year and will likely retire after the 2020 Olympics (as Venus likely will too).

by Anonymousreply 322Last Sunday at 9:59 AM

R322: Sorry but everytime people predicted that kind of dominance in the past there was a change of cicle.

Djokovic always was amazing in Australia so i wouldn't be surprised if he wins there, but i doubt he'll dominate clay season, we are not in 2011 anymore. And he always (even in his most dominant years) was vulnerable at Roland Garros

by Anonymousreply 323Last Sunday at 10:24 AM

Giorgi wins Linz for her second career title

Bouchard has reached the final round of qualifying in Luxembourg!

This week's draws are out-Moscow is the showdown between the final contenders for the YEC and alternates. Svitolina and Sabalenka aren't playing but Pliskova, Stephens, Bertens and Mertens all are. Shockingly, Halep with her back issues is there too.

Kyrgios took a WC into Moscow

Isner is the only top 10 ATP player in action and there are 3 men's events this week

by Anonymousreply 324Last Sunday at 10:25 AM

Del Potro has a fractured kneecap.

by Anonymousreply 325Last Sunday at 10:37 AM

wtf how did that happen

by Anonymousreply 326Last Sunday at 10:40 AM

When is year end championships?

by Anonymousreply 327Last Sunday at 10:59 AM

The ATP Finals are November 11-18, R327.

by Anonymousreply 328Last Sunday at 11:01 AM

Del Potro had a bad fall in his recent match against Coric, but I don't know if that's how he fractured his kneecap.

by Anonymousreply 329Last Sunday at 11:07 AM

Thank you, R328.

by Anonymousreply 330Last Sunday at 11:11 AM

Really bad luck for Del Potro.

by Anonymousreply 331Last Sunday at 11:19 AM

JMDP had just reached his highest ever ranking at #3 and has been in great form this year...I was thinking he might have a chance next year at the AO or the USO again...this really sucks

by Anonymousreply 332Last Sunday at 11:30 AM

I read that with treatment, a fractured patella bone may take 6 to 8 weeks to heal

by Anonymousreply 333Last Sunday at 11:33 AM

That's two months without proper training. He's back to square one.

by Anonymousreply 334Last Sunday at 11:34 AM

God DelPo should just throw in the towel...what a bummer

by Anonymousreply 335Last Sunday at 11:36 AM

even if he fully recovers, his movement will be compromised. Look how long it took him to try doing a 2 handed backhand consistently again in matches. He said in 2017 he was avoiding it out of fear. This year he uses it a lot in big matches but in matches he expects to be easy he'll mostly do the 1 hander. I bet he'll be moving very gingerly when he first comes back.

by Anonymousreply 336Last Sunday at 11:40 AM

[quote]Del Potro had a bad fall in his recent match against Coric, but I don't know if that's how he fractured his kneecap.

I think that's when it happened, here's some footage of it

by Anonymousreply 337Last Sunday at 11:41 AM

DelPo team

by Anonymousreply 338Last Sunday at 11:51 AM

Team DelNO

by Anonymousreply 339Last Sunday at 2:25 PM

Update for the YEC as the new rankings came out tonight:

Halep, Wozniacki, Kerber, Osaka, Kvitova and Stephens have all qualified.

Svitolina, Pliskova and Bertens are up for the last 2 spots. Svitolina isn't playing this week. Bertens must reach the SF in Moscow to qualify. If both Pliskova and Bertens reach the SF, Svitolina will drop from #7 to #9 (first alternate).

The second alternate spot is also up for grabs. Sabalenka is not playing this week but currently is #10. Mertens, Sevastova and Kasatkina all have a shot but they have to go deep in the tournament.

As for the ATP, Nadal, Djokovic, Del Potro, Federer and Zverev have qualified. There are several contenders for the last few spots. Del Potro obviously won't play so that opens it up further

by Anonymousreply 340Last Sunday at 6:58 PM

you gotta think that Novak will really be gunning for a second French Open title next year--something that Federer could not accomplish. Might mean more than a seventh Australian...

by Anonymousreply 341Last Sunday at 8:11 PM

I agree, R341, that Djokovic winning a second French Open would be an important accomplishment, one of the most important reasons being to stop Nadal from winning another one! But seriously, Djokovic would have at least two of each at that point, something neither Nadal or Federer have accomplished (Australian for Nadal, French for Federer).

by Anonymousreply 342Last Monday at 5:50 AM

We desperately need someone NEW to win a slam on the ATP side next year. If Djokovic dominates again or Nadal magically recovers again and dominates that would be beyond boring. I don't think Federer will win any though.

by Anonymousreply 343Last Monday at 2:39 PM

yes, good point R342, I always forget Rafa only has one Australian... for Novak to have two of each, does anyone else in the history of the men's game have that? I remember when Graf had 4 of each and it just amazed me. She was so awesome.

by Anonymousreply 344Last Monday at 6:47 PM

R344 here. I looked it up, it's Laver and Emerson:

Laver: 3 Aussie, 2 French, 4 Wimbledon, 2 US - two calendar Grand Slams are part of this Emerson: 6 Aussie, 2 French, 2 Wimbledon, 2 US

So for Rafa to get that second Aussie or--even more--Novak to get that second French, would be quite the accomplishment.

by Anonymousreply 345Last Monday at 6:55 PM

Nadal should have been a much more dominant player considering how much they've slowed down the courts at every other major.

by Anonymousreply 346Last Monday at 6:58 PM

Nadal can get hit off the court if he runs into a zoning shotmaker/power player. Obviously he still wins more often than not but it does happen. His serve can be attackable too and he gets aced a lot. Dustin Brown is very talented but a journeyman because he's so inconsistent. He is 2-0 against Nadal though because he didn't allow Nadal to get into a rhythm on grass.

by Anonymousreply 347Last Monday at 7:04 PM

To no one's surprise, Halep has withdrawn from Moscow due to back injury

by Anonymousreply 348Last Tuesday at 3:14 AM

[quote]To no one's surprise, Halep has withdrawn from Moscow due to back injury


by Anonymousreply 349Last Tuesday at 3:33 AM

The WTA's exciting!

by Anonymousreply 350Last Tuesday at 3:41 AM


by Anonymousreply 351Last Tuesday at 3:44 AM

Will she play in Singapore? Whoever is the first alternate should feel pretty confident that they'll play.

by Anonymousreply 352Last Tuesday at 4:04 AM

Halep will probably try to play, get her clock cleaned in her first match, then withdraw. It looks like Kerber could end at #1 for the year if she goes undefeated in Singapore and Halep doesn't play which is probably her misguided incentive to show up. Wozniacki can't catch her since she's defending her points from winning last year, but Kerber has no points to defend.

by Anonymousreply 353Last Tuesday at 6:13 AM

Kerber's just split with Fissette for some reason. Seems a strange time of year for it to happen.

by Anonymousreply 354Last Tuesday at 6:44 AM

Lil' Diego doing yoga (?)

by Anonymousreply 355Last Tuesday at 7:31 AM

Tennys Sandgren def. Pouille, 6-4 6-4 in Stockholm 👀

by Anonymousreply 356Last Tuesday at 7:32 AM

R354 she's been losing a lot lately

by Anonymousreply 357Last Tuesday at 8:33 AM

Nadal is vulnerable (well maybe that's a excessive word given he generally ends winning) to players with big backhands. Players who use only one hand to hit the backhand generally struggle because their backhand generally face his huge left handed forehand and the ball gets very high which is very uncomfortable is you hit with one hand.

And yes, his serve is not huge, but his return to serve is very good, so breaking his serve generally doesn't mean being in control of the serve. Anyway what makes Nadal the exceptional player he is is his mentality, he is mentally stronger than anybody on the circuit. He was able to win a lot of matches that he should be lost

by Anonymousreply 358Last Tuesday at 9:49 AM

Genie gets her first win over Babos (she was 0-2 before)!! She's BACK!

by Anonymousreply 359Last Tuesday at 11:13 AM

Halep leads Kerberos by 1500+ points in the Race rankings, so I think she's locked in as YE No. 1.

She will soon move to No. 10 all-time for total weeks at No. 1. More than Venus, Clijsters, Davenport, Capriati, or Sharapova.

We're in a most compelling era of women's tennis.

by Anonymousreply 360Last Tuesday at 12:30 PM

Vamos Kerberos!

if Genie wins 1 more match in Luxembourg she'll be back in the top 100 (she's playing CSN next)

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga got his 1st win since February

by Anonymousreply 361Last Tuesday at 12:40 PM

^ dafuq is going on with her top lip?

by Anonymousreply 362Last Tuesday at 1:18 PM

R361 until today Tsonga hadn't won a main draw match since Feb? wow

by Anonymousreply 363Last Tuesday at 1:27 PM

Tsonga had a knee injury R363 , so he hasn't played that many matches (his ranking has dropped to #75)

by Anonymousreply 364Last Tuesday at 2:29 PM

Lots of injuries/comebacks from the 30+ crowd. Tsonga, Murray, wawrinka, berdych.

by Anonymousreply 365Last Tuesday at 3:23 PM

No. 101 Ons Jabeur def Sloane Stephens in Moscow, dropping only five games.

If the players don't care, why should you?

Eh, maybe that's harsh, and better applies to Nick Kyrgios. But once I heard Stephens had qualified for the YEC regardless of how deep she went, I predicted (another) early loss.

by Anonymousreply 366Last Wednesday at 1:49 AM

I saw part of it...Sloane was pathetic. She made Jabeur look like some GOAT.

Pliskova got destroyed 1-6 2-6 by Zvonareva! whoa

Bertens also lost in 3 to Sasnovich. That means now the YEC is set. the final 2 spots go to Svitolina and Pliskova who join Halep (if she plays), Wozniacki, Kerber, Osaka, Kvitova and Stephens

meanwhile, Genie wiped the floor with CSN, winning 6-1 6-0 that was quite unexpected

by Anonymousreply 367Last Wednesday at 8:50 AM

Poor Carlo.

by Anonymousreply 368Last Wednesday at 9:00 AM


by Anonymousreply 369Last Wednesday at 3:42 PM

Is Rafa supposed to be ready for Paris and the YEC?

by Anonymousreply 370Last Wednesday at 4:03 PM

I am not a fan of Jack Sock's ass, but his ass is scrumptious.

by Anonymousreply 371Last Wednesday at 6:37 PM


by Anonymousreply 372Last Wednesday at 7:29 PM

R372 = Bill Taylor

by Anonymousreply 373Last Wednesday at 7:32 PM

Interesting Beyond the Baseline podcast, an interview with Mats Wilander. While he doesn't write off Federer and Nadal's chances in 2019, I got the sense that he expects much less from them. I was a bit surprised that when Wertheim asked about young guns that would win majors, he didn't go to the knee-jerk response of "Zverev" that many give. He seems to think that middle generation (Nishikori, Raonic) might be able to win a few majors before the "Next Gen" takes over.

I remember when I started following tennis in the mid 80s, I thought that players like Mandlikova, Shriver, Sukova would take over the top of women's tennis once Chrissie and Martina left the scene. But before you knew it, up come Graf, Sabatini, Seles, Sanchez Vicario, and they just ran past that middle generation. I think the same will happen in the men's game.

by Anonymousreply 374Yesterday at 2:49 AM

Rafa and Novak are getting crucified for playing that exho in Saudi.

by Anonymousreply 375Yesterday at 2:50 AM

Halep withdrew like i expected

by Anonymousreply 376Yesterday at 2:56 AM

There should be a rule that Popsicle pics must show some state of undress.

by Anonymousreply 377Yesterday at 2:57 AM

For the first time in 12 years, neither Venus nor Serena will have won a WTA tournament this year

by Anonymousreply 378a day ago

R375 when is it? if they haven't already played, then yeah I get the backlash

R378 understandable at this point given their ages though Serena reached 2 slam finals

by Anonymousreply 379a day ago

[quote][R375] when is it? if they haven't already played, then yeah I get the backlash

22 December

by Anonymousreply 380a day ago

I suppose it's the situation right now, the truth is top players play that kind of exhibitions all the time, curiously some of them use the excuse of how tough is the circuit when they don't want to play Davis Cup.

I don't think the middle genreation will dominate, not even for a year. Some of them could win a GS like Cilic did, but i think it's the next gen who will dethrone the big tree, and it will be better if the do before they drop the level. Of course i find difficult to believe that any of them will be as dominant as Nole/Rafa/Roger were

by Anonymousreply 38121 hours ago

Exhibitions are glorified practice sessions. They put very little effort in and get a ton of money back. Of course they will play them. They have nothing to do with the regular tour grind at all.

by Anonymousreply 38220 hours ago

I've been thinking about the whole Nadal and Djokovic playing in Saudi thing. They could argue that tournaments are played in Qatar or Russia for example and they have very questionable human rights records.

But what gets me is that it's not as if Nadal or Djokovic needs the money. Yes it's easy money for a glorified practice session but they can't even say Saudi is an important country on the tour or anything like that. They can't justify it in any way apart from greed.

by Anonymousreply 38320 hours ago

Is there no Middle East Swing?

by Anonymousreply 38419 hours ago

Shapovalov is criminally overhyped.

by Anonymousreply 38517 hours ago

Genie Bouchard STORMS her way into the Luxembourg semis! She defeated Petkovic 4-6 4-0 ret.

by Anonymousreply 38611 hours ago

Pencil at the ready.

by Anonymousreply 38711 hours ago

Verdasco served at 6-4 5-4 even saved break point to get to match point and choked to lose to Kohlschreiber 6-4 5-7 6-7(5)

by Anonymousreply 38811 hours ago

[quote]I've been thinking about the whole Nadal and Djokovic playing in Saudi thing. They could argue that tournaments are played in Qatar or Russia for example and they have very questionable human rights records.

We could also point out that there are large tennis events played every year in United Arab Emerites (Dubai), a country that restricts homosexuality, continues to discriminate against women, and has had multiple "disappearances" over the years. In addition, there are players - including Federer - who are part-time residents of Dubai.

I get the impulse to call for Nadal and Djokovic to cancel the exho. But if the tennis community is being genuine about this and wants to stand on its soapbox, there are A LOT of similar changes that should be made.

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