Joaquin Phoenix IS the next JOKER! Here's how he's going to look!

I did not like Heath Ledger in his role as “Joker”.

Ugly

Best Joker ever!

The origin story is he has a cleft palate

Boring. Put the franchise down and walk away. It's tired and needs to sleep for a while.

John Wayne Gacy overtones.

Awful. The Joker is NOT The Crow!

yawn... fucking comics movies. hate this retarded shit.

Horrid. The Joker is scarred, The Joker doesn’t pat on makeup. Shit.

Emmett Kelly applied make-up with more finesse.

Joaquin has better act like he's never acted before.

The whole idea of the Joker is thoroughly wrung out and tired. DC is braindead.

Jack Nicholson is the only good Joker so far (in movies).

Boring. Cliched. He'd look scarier with No makeup.

R14 = Rooney Mara

Several years ago I was a realtor in NYC (Village, Soho, Tribeca) and I rented Joaquin a furnished apartment. He was very nice and it was an easy deal, hardly any negotiating. I am gay and I got the impression he was straight but it was hard to know for sure as he is not your typical straight "bro". Anyway, when the deal was done and I met him at the place to give him the keys he mentioned that it was his birthday and he had no one to celebrate with. He asked if I would have something to eat with him, but I truly had other plans and declined. I just thought it to be weird that a famous actor had no one to celebrate his birthday with. Something profoundly sad about the guy so the Twisted Joker will be a good role for him.

He was raised in an abusive sex cult, R16, so I could see him being a rather sad guy.

What on earth did you have to do that was more important than hanging out with Joaquin Phoenix, R16?

Anybody else want to cunt punt R16 ?

I think this movie looks dumb as fuck but goddamn r16! Whatever you had could wait!

The yellow teeth are a nice touch. I suppose those are his natural teeth.

What was so special that happened to you on October 28, R16? I bet you can't even remember what you did that evening.

R16 here. It was dinner with a friend. I just didn't feel comfortable to have a birthday dinner with Joaquin that day. He seemed so very awkward and unable to have a normal conversation. I didn't want to be the one doing all the talking and thought it best to just tell him no.

For the love of God....can someone in Hollywood come up with a fucking original idea! Enough of the comic book stuff...

Not feeling it

filming has begun

In fifty years' time all of these stupid comic book movies will be forgotten. I can't imagine they will age well.

Hollywood will keep selling you the same story over and over and over again if you let them.

Stop buying tickets to these garbage movies!

Heath Ledger destroyed the Joker and now you have all of these actors who channel that insipid performance. Ledger channeled Brandon Lee not anything DC related. Now we have to suffer the aftermath with actors channeling a mix of the Crow and meth.

The suit looks surprisingly colorful and almost sophisticated. Back to the old Jack Nicholson days? I guess they originally wanted Johnny Depp, but he's having problems right so so Joquin Phoenix was the next best thing.

[quote] Heath Ledger destroyed the Joker and now you have all of these actors who channel that insipid performance. Ledger channeled Brandon Lee not anything DC related. Now we have to suffer the aftermath with actors channeling a mix of the Crow and meth.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt his performance was completely wrong from the Joker. DL once again restores my faith that there are people out there who aren't brain-dead sheep!

The Joker was never written in the comics the way Ledger played him. All any actor has to do is watch Mark Hamill's legendary voice-over performance in the cartoon series from the 90s to know how to approach the Joker. But no, these self-important "Method" actors must approach the role as if they're playing Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull.

*was completely wrong FOR the Joker

That birthday thing is weird. He has family in NYC so you would think he could celebrate with them.

r31 has no idea what "Method Acting" is.

He looks like a 1970s mime. Is this the look they were trying to go for?

Oh shut it, R34. The so-called preparations that pretentious assholes like Jared Leto took to play the Joker, to the point where he alienated many in the cast with his Dustin Hoffman/Daniel Day Lewis, I'm-so-lost-in-character bullshit, he is the quintessential pain in the ass Method actor.

r36, 1) you're a creep 2) you're ignorant 3) you're proud of being ignorant -- and these are the best things about you!

The Joker doesn’t have long hair.

The hair is wrong, the make up is wrong—everything about the Joker BECAUSE of Ledger is now wrong. Let’s get back to the DC Joker.

Oh, R37, I'm not ignorant, I'm just calling out the series of "Method Actors," starting with Ledger, who completely ruined the character of the Joker with their bullshit antics.

I've actually read Konstantin Stanislavski, by the way. (I recommend reading Jean Benedetti's translation of "An Actor's Work" and "An Actor's Work on a Role.")

[quote]Heath Ledger destroyed the Joker and now you have all of these actors who channel that insipid performance.

It's not Heath Ledger's fault. It's the fault of these overgrown 30 and 40-something year old comic book fans who are so self-conscious about still loving comic books in their advanced age that their adaptations have to be "dark and gritty" to prove to the world and themselves that they're not immature.

Listen, a little mime can take you a long way.

[quote]For the love of God....can someone in Hollywood come up with a fucking original idea! Enough of the comic book stuff...

Most of the people working in Hollywood today were the kids who didn't read books and gorged all day on junk (comic books, anime, Saturday morning cartoons). Hence the excessive comic book, Transformers and anime-inspired movies. It's all they really know.

For me, comic book movies are my "soaps." I enjoy following the insipid and melodramatic antics of the same characters from movie to movie, with the added bonus of special effects. Like trashy novels and hair metal bands, they are a "guilty" pleasure that I can't intellectually justify, but I enjoy their ridiculousness.

Op's photo of Joaquin looks like the Dude working at a children's birthday party. Will he make balloon animals to throw at Batman?

No r45, he will be awkward and hard to talk to. So Batman is gonna ditch the scene and have dinner with robin instead

It’s Ledger’s fault.

Leto's Joker was pathetic, but that's not solely his fault. Why re-cast, especially with Joaquin Phoenix?

Who’s fault is it? It’s the actor’s with their ridiculous, affected BS. The Joker isn’t Strasberg—the character has already been laud out—for decades and decades. Adding your interpretation to it does not work.

Thank you.

Are there no other villains they want to use??!!

Can someone please explain r1’s joke to me? I have seen it posted many times in various threads but never got it. TIA!

I preferred Jack Nicholson's interpretation. The original tv series was high camp with Cesar Romero giving the Joker is characteristic laugh making him one of the most recognizable villains. Nicholson's performance was over the top but kept it closer to the original.

[quote]Who’s fault is it? It’s the actor’s with their ridiculous, affected BS.

It's not. It's the fault of the directors. Ever since the late 90s, there's been a whole slew of pretentious assholes who are trying to establish themselves as auteurs by shooting their stupid comic book films with the seriousness of a 2001: A Space Odyssey or Citizen Kane. So, they instruct their actors to act as if they're doing Death of a Salesman, and keep casting legends and actors with a Shakespearean background to be in them (Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan, Jeremy Irons, etc.).

R51 you know the “joke”.

While I despise the Gotham TV series overall, the portrayals of the “Jokers” are way better than the recent film translations.

Ah found it r54!

It's more rodeo clown for me. Joaquin will be fine, as much as I hate the makeup.

Enough ^.

R56.

ok but why did they jack Shaggy2Dope's makeup job?

He looks like an ICP fan.

ICP fans had names, I can’t remember what they were.

Juggalos.

I hope the Jugglarmy skewer this new Joker at The Gathering 2019.

The makeup looks very ICP.

I wonder if the Joker will have rap battles with Eminem?

I really like this. The light trick with the changing faces reminds me of old side shows like The Gorilla Girl. I haven't watched any of this franchise's entries since Ledger, so I doubt this one will get me in the theater seat either. Why not Joaquin after all? He's pretty damn good at acting, and he's been doing it since the larval stage. Do I anticipate his interpretation much more than younger audiences would because I recall his other performances over the years? I think the casting will turn out to be a success, but so much depends on the surrounding film. If they make it for a bunch of old shits who can't be bothered to sit in theaters, that would be stupid.

I have always said the wrong Phoenix died at the Viper Club that night.

I agree, r69.

It should have been Phoenix, Arizona.

My first thought was juggalo and it seems others agree. I dunno.

And yes, Gotham has been relatively good about Joker without actually having Joker.

I liked Heath Ledger.

I still have the soft spot for Animated Series Joker (Hamill) and I guess Arkham Joker (Hamill also).

The best Joker is Curtis Armstrong from the old Onstar commercials...

The Joker IS wild!

Come at me but I've always felt The Joker an overrated Rogue in the Gallery, no matter who plays him. The most important and most heinous crime of his was murdering young Jason Todd, and this killing made The Joker perhaps more crucial and salient to The Bat (and to Nightwing) than he otherwise might have been.

R71 Hamill has been among the best cast choices for the role to date. His performance as The Joker in UNDER THE RED HOOD is bone-chilling.

Interesting also that the role of The Joker is constantly recast. Is that because it's so difficult to play him, or because there hasn't yet been anyone good enough to make the role his own?

By contrast there's only been one Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow put to major motion picture so far, and I posit that's because Cillian Murphy was so superb in the part.

Wait, who's Batman now? Is it Tony Danza? .

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That not Hamill R71, it’s voice over actor John DiMaggio.

Woop woop!

Footage on the internet looks dreadful.

Cool gif.