Why is so much gay porn about seducing straight guys?

I think older gay men like gay for pay. They grew up hating themselves, and never got over it. Myself? I think it’s an utterly riduclous concept. How is having sex with someone, who has no sexual desire for you, appealing?

1) I swear there have been a million variations of this

2) Porn is a fantasy, given that most men are straight, it is inevitable that sleeping with straight guys is a common fantasy.

3) Have you watched straight porn? The same naughty themes of sleeping with someone you shouldn't are present.

It’s mostly older gay men (40s and older) that are into it. I agree with R1. It’s homophobic. I think it’s dying off. It’s not as prevalent—but those sites are run by older gay men.

Because gay guys are easy. The "seduction:" would last 30 seconds.

None of those guys are straight. They need “straight” to appeal to that fan base.

I'm 55 and it drives me crazy. I want to see strictly gay guys.

I feel secondhand embarrassment watching some of those guys try to pass themselves off as straight. No matter how hard they try, they aren't fooling anybody.

It's less about whether they actually are straight or if G4P is a real thing-- they are presented as "straight" in the movie and we're supposed to be turned on by how easy it is to seduce them.

Either because they're really horny or because someone gave them enough money,

straight guys are hot!

Much of the audience is women, not men. Their own viewership and following supports this. Look at their performers twitter and instagram pagers. Some real deluded fraus obsess over them.

I love my straight boyfriend!

Because, when many gaylings reach sexual maturity they tend to lust after straight boys and that feeling never goes away, which is why it's reflected in porn. There is not one gay person alive who can't tell you about some straight guy they've lusted after and wanted to "turn" for a quickie sexual fling.

Straight dick and cum is simply divine. It's REAL men, hunty!

I love hung gay tops.....Hung Closeted Straight Guys.....Not so much.

It's to normalize straight desire for gay cock and ass

Because we all had crushes on straight guys in high school. This is that fantasy come true.

I have to laugh every time I hear “it’s a self-loathing thing” and “they want straight guys because they hate themselves.”

Where do you GET this shit? If you don’t know me, and don’t know other guys who like straight guys and g4p, then how do you know that I don’t love or like myself? Hint: you don’t.

I like myself just fine and I love the straight stuff in porn vids, even when I know the guy is faking it.

Why do you love it R17?

It’s better than actually wanting to have surgery to become a female.

I’m 34 and I love. Gets me really turned on, especially if there’s money involved like debtdandy/czechhunter/raunchybastard type stuff.

I get off on the power and control of the situation. There’s nothing hotter than getting something you want by any means necessary. A twink doesn’t want to be with a hairy bear daddy, but can’t pay his bills so gives in? That’s HOT. The humiliation of the twink is hot and the power of the daddy is even hotter.

Straight men are the ultimate prize and forcing them into submission is even better.

Internalized homophobia causing them to chase an idealized masculinity.

It's just that it gives the "The Homosexual Agenda is to convert straight males!" types so much cannon fodder.

PS: Where can I download a copy of The Homosexual Agenda? Is it written down anyplace? Do you need a password?

Bless your heart R21

Or the “gay is a choice” group, R23.

I would like to see gay men doing straight porn. Gay men like Davey Wavey, Carson Kresley, Harvey Fierstein, that’s what I want to see. It’s always so one-sided.

R25 that’s what’s weird. As a gay man, I tried repeatedly in my sexual prime to get it up for women and could not. Even with Viagra, I don’t get how straight men can perform gay porn. And I don’t believe they are just closeted since a lot of them have serious girlfriends and kids. Must be true bisexuals.

R23, check inside your complementary toaster oven.

I do think Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher's massive popularity fucked up a lot of eldergays gays mentally. Specifically the way they think of straight men.

Because no one wants a tootsie fruit, mincing and prancing singing offkey "You Can't Get A Man With A Gun."

Agreed 100% R29. Absolutely.

I do think we've turned a corner. Major studios like Men.com have mostly openly gay or bi stars.

And even Sean Cody who was probably the worst offender has mostly gay models now.

I never really notice it because I always skip those dumb interview or storyline bits at the start of scenes, and I can't see any reason I'd want to go on a porn stars social media. It only really becomes annoying to me when companies like CF pretty much morph into straight porn sites they produce so much of it.

I don't mind watching straight porn if the guy is hot. And it's not just straight models that are the problem. It's the story line of "seducing them". Especially scenes where a gay just gives a straight a blowjob with no reciprocation. Toxic and led many gay men to undervalue themselves in my opinion

Why are so many “hot guys” threads on Datalounge featuring straight men? Think about it...

Because no one wants to see a fem being seduced. Or an Asian.

R35 I see many threads posted on hot gay and straight men.

I can remember being attracted to straight guys, but thankfully it was a long time ago. I think it's an immature stage of homosexuality. Gay men are attracted to masculinity and at the same time, constantly told we aren't masculine. It's a lie you have to unlearn.

Exactly r38...

Not really, R37. The number of hot straight guy threads outnumber gay guy—plus, the gay guy threads are filled with hate most of the time. I usually block those threads because they are just hateful and mean—homophobic.

Why so much straight porn about lesbians?

Why is that never asked? Hm?

As far as fetishes go, this one is much dumber than the "straight guy" genre in gay porn.

because no matter who you are or what your sexual orientation is Everyone wants what they can't have.

I agree with R17.

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I certainly won't dismiss the claims of internalized homophobia being a factor here. Of course it is. It's a factor in so much of how we interact with the broader world -- it goes way beyond porn. BUT, when this kind of porn can be hot I think it's -- at least to me -- nothing to do with idealizing straight men and heterosexual "culture" but about witnessing the potential awakening of desire. Yeah, it's a total made up fantasy, but if the porn (or, these days, Chaturbate show with bicurious roommates experimenting on cam) is well done, there are moments -- say -- when they go from light pecks to full on tongue in mouth kissing in which you see the "straight" guy give into his true desires, letting their guards down. There's something hot about those types of moments. I think you can find THAT hot and not be a self-hating gay. I'm 37. I've been out since high school and like to think I'm fairly self aware about this stuff.

It is getting better but then you have sites like Gayhoopla come in and reinforce it. Gayhoopla is so bad not just from the content, but the crew, people who run the website. everything is so bad for gay men and they should stay away from that website. Don't give them your money. Unfortunately Gayhoopla's PR is using every social media trick in the book and they're on their way to being the #1 gay porn website :facepalm:

Naw, they have the hottest jock bros

I think R46's statement might be a bit much. That said, as hot as the guy's bodies are at Gay Hoopla, their obvious lack of enjoyment of the act is such a turn off. Which site do y'all think has the most sterile, boring fucks? GH? NextDoor?

The hotter a person is, the less they have to perform enthusiastically. Most hot people are used to being celebrated just for showing up.

Because they are the ultimate masculine fantasy.

Funny-- Corbin Fisher put up an old scene the other day, Harper and Trey. Wasn't a great scene but the contrast of how hot those two are versus the current roster of fugs is pretty striking.

And I think that's definitely there R45--that was the appeal of old school CF and SC--that these otherwise hetero guys were getting in touch with how good the sex could feel and actually loosening up and starting to enjoy it and it was hot to see that.

Some of you are missing the reason seducing straight guys is hot, especially when cash is involved: the power imbalance. Knowing you have complete power over another person sexually can be a major turn on.

Corbin Fisher is in Death throes

There is nothing hot about paying for sex. It’s pathetic.

That was Jeffrey Epstein weighing in at R52

Is this why many gay men hate straight women?

They could transition, R56. That *could* help the anger and jealousy.

They could go from a 1-3 on the trans spectrum to a 4 which is hormones and living as a woman or a 5, hormones, removal of genitalia and living as a woman.

There’s nothing pathetic about paying for sex. Often it can be quite hot and there is definitely a fetish community for it. Getting what you want is always hot.

Well, OP, you posted a clip from MEN.COM.

And the reason MEN.COM's porn is so much about seducing straight guys is because MEN.COM IS OWNED AND DIRECTED BY STRAIGHT PEOPLE!

That's a straight producer calling the shots and she hires STRAIGHT MALE DIRECTORS who bring some wonderful energy to gay porn but don't exactly "get" or respect gays all the time.

R59 - Whatever gets you through the day.

R59, if not being able to find someone who is authentically atracted to you is your situation, and you can get over the reality your prostitute would never have sex with you without money involved, then perhaps, it could somehow be “hot.”

[quote]Why is so much gay porn about seducing straight guys?

Because it's easier to find some loser who just got out of prison or is addicted to fifty million things who is also hot and is also straight who will actually have so little dignity left that they are willing to do this shit.

Hot gay guys don't do porn because they have real jobs and don't go to prison.

You know they all do this shit because they a) have no education and b) can't pass a security check for the jobs that require no education.

Which is why I find the exceptions so fascinating R63/R64

You know, the guys with no tattoos and decent vocabularies who actually went to college and then wind up in white collar jobs with families.

What was going on with them that they decided gay porn was a good idea?

Where’s the best place to find this kind of porn these days? Corbin fisher and others like it seem to be dead or dying, and sites like men.com videos are kinda overproduced...

No imagination. They need writers like Benioff and Wise to come up with something epic.

The GFP dancers I know are mostly about adoration...from anyone. However, it’s been my experience that 1/2 these guys are also bi and like the dynamic where they’re “forced” to do gay stuff, which (in their heads) gives them plausible deniability.

So any tips on finding quality porn in the post you tube era?

People like what they like. It isn’t your thing, whatevs. Personally I am repulsed by fisting or water sports videos. Nasty, but it is just my opinion. Consenting adults and all that. I am so tired of the PC Police trying pathologize various desires. This is what the hets have done to us for centuries, why do it to each other??? Oh, and R56, we don’t rape and beat women. That is a specialty of straight guise. I’d say those phenomena were far better evidence of misogyny than in anything you could see in a gay porn film. Jaysus. Lol & smh.

Because reluctant vulnerability of an awkward straight guy can be hot.