Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51)

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First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41)1) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/04/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/12/18)

Thank you, OP!

Suspicious money transfers after Trump Tower meeting

Dog whistle from Junior Mint? ————- You can write some sensational nonsense book, CNN will definitely have you on because they love trash the president, it’ll mean you sell 3 extra book, you’ll make three extra shekels at the behest of the American people, at the behest of our country and a president doing a phenomenal job by every quantifiable metric. Is that where we are? People read through this…”

Thanks, OP!

I'm trying to determine in the OP's photo which is the top and which is the bottom?

“Behest”?

I don’t think that means what you think it means.

Is that a real quote R5? (of course it is) I thought you were doing some sort of ranting parody of a brain-dead Trumpette.

Or is it 'Reasons To Remain Anomynous', OP? 😂

I see them doin' good ol' Christian frottage, r6.

Miss Lindzey likey pic.

Thanks OP!

R6 "I'm trying to determine in the OP's photo which is the top and which is the bottom?"

Why does this question always come up. Most of the time with closeted men like Pence, the answer is neither. They're only into sucking dick.

r13 or eating the top's shit. As in literally eating another man's shit.

I've bought a bag of oranges. I bring them out to the yard in times like this and step on a few for all the right reasons.

No tweets about storm risks to the citizens of South Carolina.

But tweeting up a storm attacking the DOJ/FBI.

[quote]"I'm trying to determine in the OP's photo which is the top and which is the bottom?"

Probably depends on how much cash Pence brought that day.

Graham has gone crackers, R16. They must have something bad.

At least Nick Ayers will be able to get a job at the New York Times

Is that who the DL websleuths have determined is a nanny mush?

R16, that's unreal. Does he even remember what state he represents?

[quote]@LindseyGrahamSC I completely support House Republican efforts to have President Trump declassify the FISA warrant applications, the Bruce Ohr/Chris Steele interactions, and all other relevant information regarding allegations of corruption in the DOJ & FBI.

I can just see Miss L. demanding this atop a grand staircase.

"I say to you: Release those documents, Sahr!"

People need to start asking about Ms. Graham. People need to tweet reporters and the rest of the media to investigate. Exactly what might Ms. Graham be hiding, and who knows it, and how are they using it?

Anti-semitic vampire Eric Trump appeared on Fox & Friends to claim that Bob Woodward is making "extra shekels" from sales of his new book. Junior Mint must be thrilled that Eric is the stupider Trump son.

Dooooo eeeet, Mizzz Lindzzzeeeee. Snakes everywhere will believe it.

These clowns don't have a clue about what the dimming lights mean, do they? God bless em'

R24, his wife is Jewish, though.

I think Jr. is the Jeb of the Trump family. Everybody thought his brother was the stupid one until Jr opened his mouth.

Girls! Boys! They are ALL stupid..

Yes, yes, R28, we know this. But this being the DL, we must determine the degree of functionally stupid to which they aspire.

New IP, OP?

I'm getting a different poster.

I want Florence to blow la Sénatrice's dirty laundry all over the South Carolina landscape for all to see.

R30 = Robert Mueller

I told the forensic accountant from the Manafort case who lives in my building about this thread so, technically, Mueller (or someone on his team) could be lurking here.

Liar, R33. You told him about the presenting holes threads. We all know that's why he's really here.

I need more indictments, I’m getting impatient!

I want Mueller to say something to Southern Charm Lindsey that makes her clutch her pears on camera.

Sorry, clutch her PEARLS on camera.

I wish this hurricane was named Robert instead of Florence, just so trump and the other republicans would have to announce how big and dangerous the upcoming storm is going to be.

Robert is big and dangerous, and he is headed your way! This will have a devastating impact on many lives. Get out now if you can.

Did Eric have facial surgery? He looks so different.

Is it the coif? He's sporting a side part. It diminishes the wolf man look.

Putin has the skin texture of a middle-aged UES frau with a standing weekly appt at the derm's office. So chemically-smooth. Like a botox baby ass.

He's not bad until he smiles. Then he looks like a gummy freak.

He looks like bat boy

I’m determined to get the name of the Op-Ed. From the other thread:

It’s what I’ve said too. It’s definitely one of the DL queens in the Pence sphere. That’s why it’s so critical we find out the name — it will damage Pence even more, and the NYT will NOT leak it. So it’s got to either come from the author (it won’t) or one of the few people who the author confided in. We need a campaign of public pressure of complete guilt-tripping of this person.

“No REAL Christian could keep this a secret. No REAL American would keep this a secret. No REAL Republican/Conservative would keep this a secret.” Lower the boom, one them will break.

Isn't Nick Ayers the assistant Omarosa says write the anomynous op-ed piece?

Does Omarosa have any more pertinent information about Dump?

Why aren't conservative Christians saying GAWD is punishing us with all the worst-of-all-time natural disasters which have occurred since Dump was elected and installed? You KNOW they would if Hillary were President.

It is kind of obvious that Graham has been caught up in some grifter game that Trump has gotten him involved in. He twist and he squirms but he is cause and Putin won't let him go.

Graham could just retire like all the others, but he thinks he can play with the big boys and win.

Eric has been replaced with lookalike.

Has he ever been asked by a reporter about why he began supporting trump after that golf game?

r50 Likely got a message from Putin...........

New poll. Discussed in the NPR Politics podcast today

Woodward's book also reminds us that Lindsey is a war hawk on the psychotic levels of John Bolton, he always has been, and he's using his access to trump to try to talk him into assassinating rulers and starting wars all over the world. Lindsey can be fun and witty so everyone forgets the guy is nuts.

Which of Hair Furor’s sons did he slap in the face at his dorm room in college?

well, there was a hurricane Bob back in the 90's, IIRC.

R53 Miss Lindsey is a war hawk because he's so manly and butch.

She loves to get swooped up and kissed by a soldier returning from the battle field.

r54 Trump bitch slapped Junior Mint.

[quote]Lindsey is a war hawk on the psychotic levels of John Bolton,

Absolutely. He's a psycho neocon just like Bolton. People seem to forget that he and McCain literally went to Syria to support ISIS-aligned rebels. Graham is a hardcore AIPAC whore just like Bolton, Pompeo and Trump. They do Israel and Saudi Arabia's bidding. All they do is create more hate towards the US with the same fucking foreign policy for decades. Destroy every fucking country in the ME and creating the fanaticism. You destroy people's countries and kill their families and you wonder why they hate you?

And frankly, Dems have been a part of this tiresome foreign policy going back a long time. Their hands aren't clean.

R59 Their hands aren't clean but things haven't been so cut and dry in the ME. Most Dems thought they were doing the right thing whole Repugs want war and want the oil.

[quote] And frankly, Dems have been a part of this tiresome foreign policy going back a long time. Their hands aren't clean.

Vote Green? Jill Stein?

No, R61, I actually did vote for Hillary despite my reservations and despite the fact that I didn't have to since I'm in NY. As a NYer, the idea of Trump so much as being in the WH as a tourist, disgusted me.

The Greens have clean hands... They've never even governed.

Come on Mueller, work harder and faster!

R54 Lest we not forget, Junior Mint was called "Diaper Don" in college because he'd get so drunk that he repeated pissed himself in bed.

Classy! Be best, Diaper Don!

r54, that was Junior.

You recall correctly r55.......

Wasn’t Omarosa supposed to release another tape on Monday?

r68 She did release a new recording.

What I wonder about, what do Eric's kids look like? I am thinking weird.

BEHEST!!!

Il y a de la merde de cochon chez La Senatrice.

Flooding will spread disease.

Member of Russian dissident punk group Pussy Riot hospitalized in grave condition, likely poisoned

Eric and Don Jr. really are phenomenally unattractive. Donnie himself wasn't that bad back in the day, and of course like every rich asshole in forever he married far more attractive women. what the fuck happened? how did it all go wrong?

R73 but of course! Madonna said, as she was touring Russia in 2012 speaking out in support of Pussy Riot, that she would never play Russia again despite being very popular there. She warned the world of Putin as far back as 2006 when she first toured Russia. By 2012, she told VICE in 2012, she saw the fascism rising in Europe back in 2008-09 and especially in 2012 and said Putin was dangerous. She had a very public tiff with Marine La Pen who sent her goons to a Madonna concert to get violent They did and she left the stage early.

I'm guessing President FatAss will pull out all the stops for the Atlantic coast after his disastrous response to Puerto Rico. Any normal "manager" would. But I also have a feeling the big fat nazi idiot is going to reach for money that just isn't there, because he spent it somewhere else.

How long before that aryan hog starts claiming he's using his hundreds of billions of his own dollars to keep the country afloat? I shudder to think of the millions of deplorables who will believe him.

Do we have any money left after all the corporate/ rich tax cuts and huge, unnecessary military spending? Now another round of tax cuts are on the table with a trillion dollar deficit (that no one cares about all of a sudden......hmmmmm). Where will we get the money for FEMA and disaster relief?

It feels like this week there’s been a tipping point with Trump’s poll numbers plummeting, like his supporters have been evaporating. And along with that an increasing likelihood of impeachment next year. It feels like the beginning of the end.

honestly, this is one thing all those stupid tax cuts and war spending have proven: deficits really do not matter. If we want to spend money on FEMA, we can. If we don't spend the money on disaster relief, it really is because we do not give a shit. It really is.

FEMA money went to putting kids in cages.

I wonder if killing off a political pop figure in Russian instead of a politician or oligarch might be one of those weird things that sets off a revolution where history looks back and goes, "Really, that's what started it?"

R80 the New York Times has reporting that there are now 17 thousand immigrants in a dentemtion camp. Also reporting that Trump wants to give Mexico $$ millions to stop people from coming into the US

Giving Mexico money to stanch the flow is a good idea. The EU does that in Turkey and Libya. It works.

Asshole at R83, most of these people are seeking asylum from the drug syndicates and dictators running many of the South American countries. The ones that aren't legitimately seeking asylum are, and have been for a good decade at this point, sent home in record numbers.

Oh my god

One can hope, R78.

I spoke to a friend Upstate whose mother and husband both voted for Trump. I asked if they're still on the bandwagon. She said well, we all think he is unhinged.

Then she added why does the media hyperventilate 24 hrs a day about him? Why can't they just ignore his tweets. Then I reminded her he sets policy via tweet, he has weaponized the justice department and attacked enemies via tweet. It needs to covered, this is unprecedented and not normal. She agreed. Then she said it's really hard to be a white man now. I just laughed and said, don't think white men have it pretty good? They pretty run everything.

R84, if the EU does it, I'm ok with it.

Anyways, nice article about Mueller's genius PR strategy today.

More on Pyotr Verzilov from Pussy Riot

Dump just tweeted that only "6 to 18 people" died in Puerto Rico but the Democrats inflated the number to make him look bad.

Every day he sets the bar lower and lower...

Every day he just keeps getting more batshit crazy, more like.

r90, r91, any other president (and certainly a Democratic one) would have been impeached and removed by the Congress by now, but this guy just gets away with this shit over and over and over. Because we have a feckless Congress who won't do diddly squat about it, and because he has a cabinet that won't 25th amendment him.

So we are stuck with him.

Fuck us.

R90 here; that effing horrid tweet needed its own thread; thanks to whoever created it.

Trump's tweets about the number of people who died in Puerto Rico last year are a new low even for him; that we have a so-called president of the United States not believing death statistics put out by a reliable agency is just beyond the pale. And now, what else? He's blaming the Democrats again. This man never takes responsibility for ANYTHING.

I didn't think I could hate him anymore than I already did; I was wrong.

Yeah, I think this is the first time he's literally declared war on facts, instead of just being hostile to them.

Maybe Eric's and Juniors's evil just shows on their face?

That is why Putin forced Trump and Republicans to hand out huge tax cuts for the wealthy...so there would be no money to run our government. When the shot really his the fan and people start to realize what has been done, I think the Republicans will be over.

Trump is planning on more tax cuts and hevwill get them.

We get outraged while he 'speaks truth' to his base. We need to defeat these assholes once and for all.

The moment you don't let them push your buttons they've been defeated, because they have nothing else and when they reach for their guns they are so mad they shoot their balls off by accident.

Pence and that guy are fucking.

I’m sick of this new “just ignore him” push - fuck that. I just ignored BernieBros’ lies about Clinton in 2026 and look what happened

Here's the PR thing.

r97, not if there's a Democratic congress he won't.

[quote] Pence and that guy are fucking.

Agree. It's almost a stereotype of an old fool stroking his ego by hooking up with someone who could pass as a younger (ideal?) version of himself.

R101 is a time traveler? Hope not.

Get a new scapegoat, R101. That shit is history and we need to come together. I'm assuming you're not some divisive troll, but I do wonder.

Funny that Eric is so worked up about a book which will only sell 'three copies.' And, as if the Trump tribe isn't obsessed beyond all else by 'shekels.' Specially with oligarch input.

He's illiterate too in confusing 'behest' with 'expense', a silly pretentious mistake. So, no argument worth making and expressed badly too. Apple, tree etcetera.

I am sorry if that goes off topic, but on an anonymous message board you don't really have the luxury to give a poster the benefit of the doubt when his comment, or comments, seem like coming from a divisive troll. Same with the "concerned" troll or the "I've heard a rumor that the far left is responsible for this" troll. Not to mention the "I am a die hard Liberal, but the way HIllary handled her emails ..." troll.

How does Jared Kushner sleep at night or look at himself in the mirror, letting his in laws make such statements? Oh, I forgot, he’s a pussy.

It's the benefit of the doubt, R108, that enables us to have compassion or understanding. I get what you're saying regarding time and place, however, and agree. We've all had to learn some hard lessons regarding positive and negative reinforcements and psychological manipulations.

It's not determined, R109. at this time, whether he sleeps at all. His coffin has yet to be discovered.

[quote] Funny that Eric is so worked up about a book which will only sell 'three copies.' And, as if the Trump tribe isn't obsessed beyond all else by 'shekels.' Specially with oligarch input.

Trump is obsessed with success and winning. And of course he doesn't like it when others win, like writing books about him, without him getting the biggest cut from the profits and the biggest credit.

[quote] Bob Woodward’s account of a dysfunctional Trump White House has already sold more than 750,000 copies, Simon & Schuster (a division of CBS) said Wednesday, a day after the book arrived in stores.

Simon & Schuster? Weren't they the ones who canceled Milo Y.'s book and Milo threatened to sue them and failed miserably as usual?

Woodward’s Michigan accent is very unpleasant to hear. I forgot how grating that could sound.

That said, I’m so happy that every one of these Trump tell-all books is breaking all sorts of records on Amazon and given even MORE publicity by the idiotic Trump family itself.

I also agree that Eric Trump had some sort of work done recently. All the negative comments about his physical appearance (as well as being totally mocked on SNL) must have led him to arrange for emergency surgery.

You would think he would lose that accent or try to after living in DC for 50 years??

It's a perfectly fine accent, R114, and does not require removal because some find it grating.

Getting the audiobook with my monthly credit today!

I think that accent, in fact, has suckered more than a few people into trusting him with things they wouldn't ordinarily reveal.

Well, on Fox News, Miz Lindzey belatedly and finally spoke on Hurricane Florence hitting the Carolinas. She tells the audience to listen to President Trump's warnings.

No, I am listening to the Weather Channel and advisories from local and state authorities.

To answer Mr. Mueller's question...

Yes, I had to post the new thread from my phone so that it could be started before the old one closed.

Also, Mr. Mueller, I think I love you.

From Twitter:@ZevShalev:

A blockbuster moment for Mueller. Russian hacker Pyotr Levashov pleads guilty in what appear to be a plea deal. This means Mueller has deep visibility into how Russia infiltrated the elections. Our story from May 2017. [URL in Web Site Link]

Yes it's from May 2017 but I searched DL and Levashov's name shows only in "NYT - FBI has an actual..." topic as an arrest. Today's news tweet from Zev Shalev reports Levashov's GUILTY plea.

Senate Democrats Have Referred A Secret Letter About Brett Kavanaugh To The FBI.

Rumors about the letters’ contents have flooded Capitol Hill over the last week, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein has declined to share its contents.

“This matter has been referred to the FBI for investigation,” Sen. Dick Durbin told BuzzFeed News when asked about the letter on Thursday.

In a statement later Thursday, Feinstein confirmed that she had referred the letter to "federal investigative authorities."

R122, that sounds really juicy. What do we think are the contents of the letter?

Re: last night’s Rachel. You’ve got to love how Kavanaugh is trying to spin gambling debts as bills for the repairs of an old house. Who the fuck does he think he’s kidding? Let’s see all the receipts that back up that assertion, bitch.

R122, sex stuff or money stuff? Or sex + money stuff?

I would think sex stuff:

BuzzFeed News contacted the woman believed to be the subject of the letter at her home last week. She declined to comment. BuzzFeed News has not been able to confirm the contents of the letter.

The lawyer believed to be representing the woman was seen leaving Capitol Hill Wednesday evening shortly after the Intercept story dropped and just as Judiciary Committee Democrats were huddling in the Senate lobby. The lawyer, Debra Katz has not confirmed that she is representing the woman. She also declined to comment Wednesday, saying “there’s nothing to say.”

R125, is the woman the mother of a child? Because maybe this is about someone's son or daughter. Catholic Church stuff, coaching, etc. Was someone a pass-around victim?

Will this letter delay confirmation or not?

Knowing Republicans they will let nothing delay their vote.

High school sex stuff. Creepy Kavanaugh started young. Asshole Feinstein is making it about her by withholding the letter from the other Democratic members of the Judiciary Committee.

R128, Feinstein's the worst. Comity-obsessed appeaser. Gross.

I imagine the letter will force the Republicans' hand and they will call for a vote cloak & dagger style in the next few days before the content of that letter becomes public knowledge. Of course they will vote in his favor and then shrug off the Dems' and the general public's outrage and criticism.

Disclose the fucking letter, gatekeeper Feinstein. We know you feel special by keeping it from everyone else, but like, fuck you.

Feinstein seems to have a lot of trust in due process if she hands over the letter to the FBI and keeps mum. Wasn't it her who leaked a memo, in connection to Nunes trying to control the narrative about something, that made Trump and his associates rather angry?

Is this about a gang rape he participated in?

Feinstein released the fusion transcript. She knows the scope of Russian penetration in the 2016 election. I trust her judgement.

I thought a gang rape of a boy maybe - like a high school thing. But it's a girl... Hmmm.

IF the woman has a lawyer, I wonder if she came forward and contacted someone in the federal government or was it the other way around?

What does asshole Feinstein think she is doing? Even if Kavanaugh raped someone in high school, the statute of limitations has run and Kavanaugh cannot be prosecuted. In addition, sex crimes are state offenses, not federal offenses. Feinstein is fucking senile.

unless he has been paying her off go keep silent r137 of threatening her

A republican buying off a woman to keep her silent? Impossible!

R137, it's not about the SoL and prosecution. It's about what it arguably reveals about his character (e.g., is he a fucking sociopath), and the possibility of his having done similar things through the years.

What’s Fox saying about Trump’s denial of the Puerto Rico death toll?

[quote]What’s Fox saying about Trump’s denial of the Puerto Rico death toll?

Something something Uranium One...

Emails....

NY Times: Two officials familiar with the matter say the incident detailed in the Feinstein letter involved possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school.

...

[quote]What’s Fox saying about Trump’s denial of the Puerto Rico death toll?

One show as surprisingly critical: On Thursday, Fox News’ Outnumbered panel slammed President Donald Trump for his conspiratorial tweets about how many people died in Puerto Rico because of Hurricane Maria.

Trump, while tweeting on Thursday morning, disputed the estimated death toll of 3,000 — calling it a Democrat plot to disparage him. Fox co-host Melissa Francis blasted the president’s tweets as “distasteful.” She added, “to take up on the issue of how many people are dead is so disgusting.”

“It cheapens us as a country,” Harris Faulkner said.

Both in high school? And referred to the FBI? Doesn't this seem extreme?

Maybe the missing $200,000 was to pay her off for not talking about getting an abortion?

and, if paying hush money and lying about it isn't illegal....then he threatened her in some way?

That would be rather stupid of him to commit crimes for a crime that has expired (limit of statuation).

R149, "statute of limitations."

Looks like the vote has been delayed a week

Not necessarily a crime, R149, but something that would indeed destroy him: an abortion he helped pay for

LOTS of ancient, dead threads being feverishly resurrected today!

The Trolls know something is up!

Tweet from "The Daily Show"

I don't think the vote has been delayed. Looks like on schedule for next week. Grassley saying no delay.

History of gambling debts . . .

Belated addition to Dotard’s list . . .

The woman doesn’t want to purse it further. . .

The FBI (!) is involved . . .

I smell sort of cover up . . . a la Stormy . . . paid for with newly laundered Russian money.

R153, which old threads?

My apologies r150. You are correct.

I don't watch this show, but I like the segment.

53 days left....

5/6 chance supposedly. Still, VOTE!

Trump is going to say the vote was rigged "the wrong way" if he loses the House. If he loses both the House and Senate, he's going to say there's a coup and he'll say he's considering martial law.

Trailer

How many closets are in the White House? It couldn't be too hard to lock him in one.

Can't, r164. I'm in it and desperately not trying to share it with a man.

But notice, r146, that they never went as far as defending the actual number of almost 3000, I.e. THE FACTS (after all, they’re still Faux News). They just st said “why discuss numbers, it’s distasteful?”

(Because if they actually had to discuss casualty figures, they’d be forced to admit that 2975 is correct).

Probably even more than 2975 when all is said and done.

R167

Senate's providing the drama now.

Wonder why R168 blocked me. Maybe it's the person who said I was Boris in another thread.

r161 Yes, vote, and start checking NOW - and keep checking until election day- to make sure you are still registered. They are having problems in NY today with people showing up to vote and they're not registered. Everyone reporting they've been somehow kicked off the voter rolls has been a Democrat. This is what Russia was doing in every state's voting system and it's why Republicans won't protect those systems- they're purging us from the rolls.

Bringing this over from a related thread:

“One of the people in Daily Kos had an interesting theory. The “gambling debt” that had been speculated about may possibly be a cover for hush money paid to this woman for a secret baby or an abortion. Maybe that’s why DiFi is handing it over to the FBI.”

R172, again, the DL was on this 4 hours ago at R147.

Are you on Twitter r161? If you are, you need to post what’s happening in NY to help spread the word.

I’m off to post your info now.

Msnbc (Ari Melber) announced that Manafort has reached a plea deal. The segment is coming up after the hurricane.

It’s on now

Cue Trump shitting his pants.

He’s cutting a deal but no one knows what the deal is.

[quote]The deal is expected to be announced in court Friday, but it remains unclear whether Manafort has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors or is simply conceding to a guilty plea, which would allow him to avoid the stress and expense of trial, according to three sources with knowledge of the discussions.

Bummer if he just pleas out and doesn't cooperate. Plays into Trump's hands that there won't be a second public trial to keep Manafort, Trump-Russia in the news.

It all seems to revolve around a pardon.

On Ari said that Trump's lawyers and Manafort’s lawyers have been talking. That can’t be good.

He needs to be sent to jail forever. And his sons and his son's sons, into the seventh generation!

Manafort (his team) has kept talking with Trump and informing on all around his trial/s. Ghouliani said they have a cooperation agreement where they share confidential information.

Cue the pardon.

A pardon at this point will enrage absolutely everyone other than their hardcore dead-enders. Folks who are willing to still give Republicans a tepid open minded possible chance, will be completely turned off.

Bummer. I wanted a trial. It would've been in the news a whole lot.

I am not a lawyer and I know we aren't supposed to question Mueller, but I will be truly pissed if Manafort gets to plead without cooperating. I wanted him to cooperate or go to trial to get that evidence out to the public.

r174 I am and posted what a friend from New York was sending me. Then I saw that even Mayor de Blasio's son went to vote and had been somehow taken off the rolls.

What's a pardon going to do him if he will just be tried at the State level?

A friend of mine in NY also reported being taken off the rolls today. She investigated with the help of poll workers and apparently some voter literature was mailed to her old address and when she didn't respond she was crossed out—even though she'd reconfirmed her registration just this spring. Fishy. To be expected in OH maybe, or some other R-controlled state, but NY?

Mass does this shit too. Provincetown sends out a postcard in January that you have to return in 10 days... The object is to keep legal residents that have to common sense to no be in Provincetown in the depths of winter out of town meeting in the spring so the town employees can vote for self dealing perks uncontested by those that actually pay the bills.

I'm glad I thought to stick my registration card in my wallet before I went to the polls. I mean, I didn't have any problem, but this isn't good.

Just expect fuckery this election and be prepared. The Russians are gonna hack. If we overwhelm the numbers, we will win.

If someone wants to plead guilty, there is no way to stop them, is there?

Rumor Brett Kavanaugh, Lindsay Graham. Graham is on the Judiciary committee. Shocking allegedly.

My entire building had trouble voting in the 2016 primary in New York - all turned away from our rightful voting place and given provisional ballots at the place we were sent. In retrospect it was probably Russians trying to give HRC’s campaign a bad name. Hindsight lesson - keep the county election commission number in your phone and call if you are being turned away. I called from work later and they resolved it in time for the after work voters.

Jesus, that Ayers guy has major gay face.

Yes, he looks like a major homosexualist...

We now have Trump's portrait ready for the National Gallery...

I still can't believe this crook is in the WH and has his photo in government offices, and will have a portrait in the National Gallery.

He won't. He will be hung for treason.

Remember that provisional ballots are essentially worthless, and thus why they are pushed as an option if there is an issue with your registration.

Another vastly under-reported way to suppress the vote. They are only counted in a few select circumstances, which rarely happen.

If Manaforts lawyers are meeting with Mueller, hes cooperating.....he doesnt need Mueller, or his approval to enter a guilty plea.

Manafort is probably more afraid of Uncle Vlad than he is of Dump. If he/lawyers make a deal with Mueller, it's just so he can remain in US custody.

R200, pictures are hung; people are hanged.

[quote][R200], pictures are hung; people are hanged.

Speak for yourself.

[quote]If Manaforts lawyers are meeting with Mueller, hes cooperating.....he doesnt need Mueller, or his approval to enter a guilty plea.

Nonsense. He could be cooperating, but he could also just be agreeing to plead guilty in exchange for a lesser charge. Either one would involve negotiation with Mueller.

r205 Oh snap! You er girl!

r204 Oh lighten up, Geezus. Ok, his picture can be hung when he is hanged. Better? FFS

R207, I didn’t even “Oh, dear” you. Just trying to help you not look like an idiot in front of your friends.

Guys, I volunteer for the DNC in my state and our volunteers are dropping out week by week. A lot of people show up one or two times and that’s it.

Please, please, volunteer to call people, register them to vote or go door to door for the DNC in your state. It’s a pain in the ass, but it’s really necessary. My neighborhood group has gone from about ten people to three last night. And the only ones that stick it out are seniors. We have people who are on oxygen, are using walkers, or are blind who are willing to call, young people are not. Watching these elderly people who can hardly walk calling people and begging them to vote is inspiring but it’s also scary. What happens when that generation is gone? The young people mostly don’t give a shit.

i am hearing the same thing, r209.

I'm volunteering where i can considering my schedule. We have some dedicated young volunteers here but i think they are trying to get campaign experience. It's the old folks doing the grunt work.

White House stated:

"President Trump was responding to the liberal media and the San Juan Mayor who sadly have tried to exploit the devastation by pushing out a constant stream of misinformation and false accusations."

A bit OT but damn, Tucker Carlson, the Fox nit wit and Michael Avenatti went at it tonight. Some nasty shit back and forth. First time I ever saw anyone get the better of MA. Brutal. A real life cage fight.

I saw it too, R212. Nasty is right, I don’t know why Avenatti (or any Democrat) agrees to go on Tucker’s show. He doesn’t play fair.

Like Jerry Springer territory.

Some U.S. attorney (Chuck Goldberg, I think?) told Rachel -after explaining to her, by her request, all the implications resulting from Manafort’s cooperation - that he didn’t think he was cooperating. He added that he didn’t know what would be in it for Manafort to not cooperate.

So apparently Woodward dishes on Graham in his book. Haven’t read it though.

Trump tweets at 9:10 pm EST tonight:

John Kerry had illegal meetings with the very hostile Iranian Regime, which can only serve to undercut our great work to the detriment of the American people. He told them to wait out the Trump Administration! Was he registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act? BAD!

Rick Wilson responds:

Hurricane, you dimwitted chumbucket. Hurricane. Focus.

What a lame attempt at diversion. As always, he’s projecting...

r217 OMG I am all about Rick Wilson. He needs to be on the campaign of the next Dem presidential nominee. He is ruthless.

Tucker Carlson did get the best of Avenatti by playing dirty. That was a methodical takedown that required bad faith promises, lies, and some TV magic. They are scared of him.

Rick Wilson is a republican....a never Trumper.

Tucker Carlson is scum. He is a pathological liar, just like Trump and Hannity.

Tucker Carlson would steal a baby's pacifier to humiliate it on his show. That man has no shame. Remember Jon Stewart called him an asshole on some right wing show? That guy was always a nasty piece of work.

You guys watch Fox News? Yeesh.

People who don’t usually watch Faux News tuned in tonight because Avenatti was on Tucker Carlson. But, of course, you knew that.

I'm actually surprised there is no Metoo scandal with Tucker. He just seems the type for it, so perfectly. Spoiled, always failing upward, a total dick, selfish, and always needing to prove that he ain't no homo, don't let the bowtie fool you.

Nope, R225, I thought that there were a bunch of dummies who are routinely watching Fox News because they hate it so much (similar to how Howard Stern haters listened to him more than fans).

Oh, and R225, you're a cunt tonight.

I heard John Kerry interviewed on NPR today. What a brilliant man. He was so shamelessly and horribly smeared. Republicans are evil.

R228, apologies if that’s true. Your post did sound trollish though.

Kerry has actually seemed so much more loose and is really giving great interviews. Where was THIS Kerry in 04? Even then, he came within a hair of beating W. And that is counting the shenanigans in Ohio (probably another stolen election.)

I know, r231. people get nervous, people get uptight, above all people get HANDLED as they think they are getting close. Hillary is probably a hell of a lot more loose and fun these days, but on the campaign trail, most candidates just try to suppress every human instinct. Well most candidates.

Can a plea agreement include an obligation to not accept a presidential pardon if one is offered?

No idea r33.

You know my love language r233

R233, one does not "accept" a pardon. The pardon is bestowed, regardless of what the pardoned party wants. A felon in prison cannot refuse a pardon bestowed upon him and somehow continue to be imprisoned in accordance only with his will. A felon released from prison cannot refuse one, either.

Mr. Manafort will be spending the rest of his life in a state prison.

R225 Tucker is a shit-stirrer but never a fighter... he prefers to play the victim. So Avennati attacking him is just playing into his game to get ratings.

Love that the chubby perv Supreme Court nom is going down in flames.

I’m not going to bother to look up his name because he’s going to back to being a nobody in short order.

Next?

R236, I really love being talked down to but don't really have the time right now so I'll just tell you you're completely wrong.

[quote]In 1833, the Supreme Court ultimately weighed in on the issue, ruling “A pardon is a deed, to the validity of which delivery is essential, and delivery is not complete without acceptance. It may then be rejected by the person to whom it is tendered, and if it be rejected, we have discovered no power in a court to force it on him.”

There are some other cases affirming that decision. Commutation is the more questionable area but a pardon can be declined.

As an aside, you're a white male, aren't you? If not, that's a whole lot of mansplaining to come from anyone without a privileged pecker. You might want to think about that because even anonymously on a bitchy message board, you come across as a giant ass.

This also gives Heidi an out because she can stand for woman’s rights and not lose as many votes when she votes NO on his floor vote which probably won’t ever happen so..

I have this naught part of me that kind of wants Kavanaugh approved just because he's going to be the fifth vote on a certain matter that I want to go the "conservative" way. Like finally it would be settled the way I want.

But preserving democracy is more important.

*naughty

Every time a republican crashes and burns, a butterfly gets its wings.

R242, unless you have a uterus, ovulate, and have a dick stuck in your vagina on a regular basis, you can take your conservative desires and stick them up your ass sideways.

Are the gas explosions Russian hackers’ response to the Manafort plea deal?

Yeah, Graham is inserting herself into all kinds of shit. She just wrote another letter to Rosenstein demanding another Special Counsel to investigate the DOJ & FBI.

There needs to be a special counsel to investigate her funds: $800,000 in "Russher" oligarch PAC finds. The same for her colleagues including Mitch.

And instead of the media clamouring to her cutesy one-liners, how about asking her pointedly about Kompromat? She'll run from the cameras then on, and her letters to DOJ won't be so bitchy and frequent.

Does Graham get paid for every time he goes in front of a camera or reports about him show up in the media? He sure seems to have some motivation to seek the spotlight for some reason.

[quote]There needs to be a special counsel to investigate her funds: $800,000 in "Russher" oligarch PAC f[u]nds

Perhaps a special counsel to investigate those “news” programs that continually have the Senatrix on would also be in order.

R242, what is the certain matter you’d like to see ruled on? If it is a woman’s right to make decisions for her body, killing Roe will lead to massive disobedience.

R242 is far too much of a coward to explicitly say it, R250. Feed it shit or ignore it. This fucker doesn't need a platform.

I hope someone leaks the contents of that DiFi letter. Sending it to the White House to be added to his “background file” sounds like burying it.

"Officials have brought large, colored charts and graphs into the Oval Office to illustrate Florence’s dangerous path for Trump, who is a visual learner. "

R253 I believed you but had to read it for myself.

Good God, do they need to bring in puppets too to capture his attention because of his notoriously short attention span!?

But...but...

“My book actually uses science and real data and true psychological theory to explain why it is quite possible that this president in the most sound-minded person to ever occupy the White House,” Loudon told Hannity on Sept. 5.

[quote] I hope someone leaks the contents of that DiFi letter. Sending it to the White House to be added to his “background file” sounds like burying it.

No, it's just protocol. The FBI background investigation (BI) was begun at the request of the WH. So, it is technically their BI. When the BI goes to the Judiciary Committee, and a question arises during the nomination process related to the BI, then either the chair or ranking member can request the FBI do additional work. That report, whatever it contains, will go to the WH and the Judiciary Committee.

the photo of Pence and Ayers the OP started the thread with looks lke a pic from "Daddyhunt success stories"

Pence only seems to look happy when he’s photographed with men.

I started a thread on that, r255. Sooo many vacuous blondes.....

He gets even happier looking at photographs of men, r258.

Manafort plea deal coming in at 11:00 this morning, I guess.

Let's hope it's a doozy.

[quote]The photo of Pence and Ayers the OP started the thread with looks lke a pic from "[bold]Christian Mingle[/bold] success stories"

Fixed, heathen!

[quote]He sure seems to have some motivation to seek the spotlight for some reason.

It is an iron-clad excuse to wear makeup.

Details of Manafort's deal.

Kavanaugh sounds like quite a nasty piece of work.

R266, if true, it makes sense that Mueller would focus on asset forfeiture. I don't think Manafort can get back any of his stuff even if he is pardoned at some point in the future.

He's cooperating, per the Post.

CNN's Erica Orden:

Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department. Prosecutor Andrew Weissmann told the judge his plea agreement is a "cooperation agreement," and the other charges they will drop at sentencing at "or at the agreement of successful cooperation.”

I am puzzled by this news. Does he want to waste time so his court case can't influence the general public's mind for the midterm election?

Read r266!!!! That is pretty amazing. I would say that this does indeed point to him to Manafort doing the proverbial “flip.” Was this on TV already?

This is our clearest evidence yet that Mueller is going for Trump directly. Manafort is such a big part of this, they wouldn't be offering a deal like this if they didn't need him for something massive.

This is YUGE. I’m close to tears.

Is there going to be a live press conference today?

THANK FUCK

Yeah. The Mfort has flipped!

Now watch Trump start calling him a retard, a nothing coffee boy and a traitor.

[quote] Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department.

*sigh* This is great, really great! *putting on her eye shadow*

What did old Sarah Hamhocks Sanders say about the Puerto Rico thing yesterday?

Divert from the story, Sarah.....go strapless!

White House @PressSec Sarah Sanders on Paul Manafort’s plea deal: "This had absolutely nothing to do with the President or his victorious 2016 Presidential campaign. It is totally unrelated.”

Guys.....we all knew this was going to be epic. It really is!

That is hysterical r281, as if she knows lololol!!!

Sarah: President Trump fully supports Mr. Manafort's decision to clear up any misunderstandings that might have occurred when he was President Trump's intern for a brief period of time.

There is a God.

[quote]Good God, do they need to bring in puppets too to capture his attention because of his notoriously short attention span!?

No puppets! No puppets! You're the puppet!

Hope Manafort has evidence that Trump knew full well that that chubby Russian lawyer chick was coming to discuss smearing Clinton. Or even better that he was at the meeting.

So according to his lawyer who just mad a statement, Manafort is acting to protect his family from harm. And he reiterated he is pleading guilty to old pre- campaign stuff, parroting the White House.

The stuff of movies.

What he is pleading guilty to and what Mueller and Co can ask him about, and get him to testify on, are two different things if I'm reading Renato's take correctly.

Renato is such a cutie. Love his appearances on Ari’s show. That Chicago accent is endearing. And he’s so smart.

When Dotard and Republicans start in this has nothing to do with Trump or the campaign please remind them that Manafort has had an apartment in Trump Tower for years, he was business partners with Trump's best buddy Roger Stone, he picked Pence, he was at the Trump Tower meeting and took notes which implicate the RNC, and when they said Manafort left the campaign that was a lie. He was involved the entire time. It was Manafort who told Trump exactly where to go to in the last few days of the election and Manafort was also very involved in the transition.

Trump participated on the Trump Tower meeting via speakerphone, of COURSE Mueller is going to use Manafort to testify to this fact.

Polling.

Senate forecast. 33% chance Dems take the Senate. Better than I thought.

I forgot -- what's everyone planning for election night?

Bottle of champagne and a bottle of Jack.

I'm going to need one or the other.

I'll be right here on Datalounge...after voting, of course!

Manafort Plea Agreement

According to section 8, he agreed to cooperate and testify about everything.

Nice, R298. Thanks.

Great job, thank you r298. I read Section 8, his utter submission to the government on any and all matters they want him to talk about is right there. There are no limitations on the governments ability to treat him like the little bitch he is.

So will we finally hear about that meeting between RUSSIANS and Junior? Will he say that Donald approved of the meeting?

I am afraid to get my hopes up about the plea deal but this could be the end of Trump.

Fox is saying nothing about Manafort.

I hope Trump the fucking asshole will finally stop tweeting.

[quote]I am afraid to get my hopes up about the plea deal but this could be the end of Trump.

This is perhaps the first time I've felt like a "this is the end" doesn't feel like Lucy with the football, but in all honesty, it's probably Lucy with the football.

As opposed to Trump the dignified statesman, r303?

That's like saying, "Hitler -- I mean the one who hated Jews."

So much work remains for Mueller's team, I think. It's a campaign, a march. They just made it over a huge hill.

By the final battle, Trump will be in a corner, which could be scary. I'm sure Mueller's considered that.

I'm actually pretty hopeful this could be what we've been waiting for, and I'm the biggest pessimist here. There was an article months ago somewhere that had people saying Trump wasn't worried about Manafort, that he'd never flip and sell him out. Ok, well, if he can flip and sell you out, that implies he knows some shit, doesn't it? And I'm guessing Roger Stone and Jr. have tremendously wet pants right about now, too. Manafort has been sleazing his way around the world for decades working for Putin and the Russian mob, somehow finds himself running Trump's campaign, for free, but he probably has nothing big to offer?

And there's Pence, too. Pence was hand-picked by Paul Manafort who was obviously working for Russians. Why did they want Pence?

I don't buy the line this isn't a big deal. I think it's huge.

[quote]Roger Stone and Jr. have tremendously wet pants right about now

Pics please.

Mueller is no spring chicken anymore, and maybe he realizes that he has one more service to perform for his country. Trump sleazed his way into power in a way that cannot be permitted, because if he is able to pull shit like that, and get away with it, forget it. The country is finished.

Going back to Kav... (what is our clever nickname for him?) I keep hoping that whatever they have on him is so bad that he'll decide to remove himself from consideration in hopes of keeping whatever it is a secret.

And then I remember he's a Rethug and none of them have any shame.

Just prepare for a fresh round of whataboutism.

YES, R311. Whataboutism not only from the GOP but also from the Times. The GOP will put out some dirt, and the Times will latch on, putting both it and Kavanaugh on the front page. To be "fair." Once the Times latches on, all other media follow.

Endless hurricane coverage. Easy programming. Producers are taking it easy today.

Treasons to be Cheerful, One, Two......

I think Manafort's plea has to be a real turning point simply because the immediate spin when the news broke was "this is no big deal, no cooperation, he's just setting himself up for a pardon."

The deplorable trolls, aided by our shitty media, are all about gaslighting.

[quote] The photo of Pence and Ayers the OP started the thread with looks lke a pic from "Christian Mingle success stories"

Fixed, Sister Taffy!

One nice thing about that gaslighting is that cult members won't be made more anxious and thus aggressive/charged-up to vote. It may make a marginal difference in turnout.

Of course there's the problem of non-cult members not taking Manafort's plea seriously, and their possible resulting decision not to vote in the election.

Misfire!

[quote] The photo of Pence and Ayers with which the OP started the thread looks lke a pic from "Christian Mingle success stories"

Fixed, Sister Taffy!

So this is something i hadn't heard before.

Hillary lost MI by two votes per precinct.

It's a big enough deal that Rachel Maddow has canceled her night off.

So Mueller knows where that $47M came from.

1] What Russian back channel was put in place to change the Republican platform at the convention?

and

2] Where did all the Wilbur Ross money in the Bank of Cyprus come from and how was it distributed?

Manafort got an adjournment of sentencing!

Just like Felix Sater.

Interesting.

Please explain, 322!

r323 It means that Manafort won't be sentenced until Mueller completes his investigation. This motivates Manafort to cooperate fully. The maximum sentence is 10 years, but the sentence could be reduced to only time served if Manafort is a very good boy.

R324, but Manafort will remain in federal prison, right?

It's best that he stays in federal prison - poison tea and all that.

Thank you, R324.

r325 If Manafort is smart, he will stay in prison - there are some very bad people who would like to kill him.

Someone explain to me the significance of Manafort's attorney and Ghouliani speaking to each other? Isn't that obstruction?

When he says for 'protection of his family', could he have negotiated witness protection for him and his family after all is said and done?

r328 It is perfectly legal for attorneys to communicate with each other. The hilarious thing is that Manafort played Ghouliani by pretending that he wasn't going to cooperate with Mueller.

That’s a very possessive grip Pence has on the guy in OP’s photo. Closeted really nasty queen.

Pence is Manafort's man. Get to praying to those White Russian gods, motherfucker.

I’ve got a question as woman (non-heterosexual) who’s been posting here since 2005 — almost invariably all men here assume Pence is gay, and I don’t doubt it, but what IS it that makes you think so? Is it just a closety vibe? I have good dykedar with women and usually good gaydar with men, but when I see Pence I just see a sociopathic smarm, nothing particularly gay. Him lighting up in this photo is the first indication I’ve seen, actually. Am I missing something?

You know they were talking about how much they love pussy just before OP's pic taken. Yup. Whenever Mother isn’t around, that’s all Mike and his protege talk about; pussy, pussy and more pussy.

R333

He fits the classic pattern of using extreme religion to suppress his homosexual desires. The late Christopher Hitchens said that he always expectes an especially homophobic politician to eventually fall prey to a same sex scandal.

I have mentioned elsewhere the claim by a male escort in Florida that when Pence first surfaced nationally as the Veep choice, he recognized the guy as someone who had hired him. The Republican Governors Association had been in Orlando, I think it was, within the previous couple of years.

Was just thinking how much Pence pings.

I have some friends who work in Republican politics. They have made comments about Pence’s likely homosexuality. One commented that he and others had independently observed Pence staring longingly at young men.

Does that mean Pence is closeted? Not necessarily, but you sort of have to take the shortest route to arrive at the truth.

Pence:Mother this, Mother that.

Please.

52 days left. Feels so long.

R333 in addition to him just pinging... he also has a preoccupation with homosexuals. You can be religious and not "believe in" homosexuality and then there's being preoccupied by it. Pence seems preoccupied by it.

R333: He’s the hair shirt wearing type of closet case. I think he’s gay, but he’s probably never acted on it.

Thanks for all the answers - they all ring true, but maybe you have to get a gay man to pick up on all of them at once. I don’t doubt that he’s gay, I was just confused why I wasn’t picking up on it. Maybe it’s the hair shirt, as R341 says. Santorum of a similar ilk, then?

Felix Sater signed his plea and cooperation agreement YEARS ago. He is still under adjournment of sentencing. He is out on OR. It is suspected he is an American counterspy for the US. Yes, the guy who worked out the details of the Deutchebank money laundering and the Bayrock shell corporation has been convicted but has a VERY delayed sentencing.

I wonder if Mueller will ask him if there was any Russian influence in picking Pence for VP.

Oh, glorious day!

I thought of all of you who post on these threads. Today was a very good day!

I was at work thinking "I bet DL is going nuts." LOL

Analysis: What could Paul Manafort share with Mueller? A lot, potentially.

[quote] One commented that he and others had independently observed Pence staring longingly at young men.

Well, that's no proof. He could be a cannibal who has a favorite dish! Gay < Cannibal

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

r231 He folded like a deck chair the morning after he 'lost' OH and the election due to that OH Secretary of State. I'll never forgive him or Al Gore for folding after their actual wins. this country would have been so much greater if he and gore fought for us and the Republic.

I agree, R351. Some friends and I were just talking about how he completely rolled over. If I recall correctly he was more worried about retaining his Senate seat.

Well, I think times have changed r352. The jig is up, as they say.

r351, I agree with you about Kerry in 2004, but not about Al Gore. Al Gore fought for the votes to be counted in Florida for 5 weeks, but the SUPREME COURT shut him down. What else was he supposed to do besides that? There's no higher court he could have appealed to in this country.

Oh, but didn't you hear, R351? Gore and Kerry folded for the good of the country, to put divisiveness behind us, to extend a hand of reconciliation and comity to the opposition, who would no doubt honor the gesture in kind and work together for the benefit of the public.

and that worked out so well for them, didn't it, r355?

Give it a rest r355

Yeah comity and "resets" have to go. No more.

New episode of Lawfare podcast today re Manafort

And???????

Has Drumpf tweeted about any of this yet? Did Jared steal his phone when Ivanka was changing his diaper?

Not a peep nor a tweet love.

It is clear Mueller knows all that has occurred. He knows all the Russia connections with Dump, the election was stolen not just tampered with with full knowledge from Dump. Manatee should be executed for treason but they will let him go because that bitch has some bodies that need to be unearthed and it will all lead straight to Dump.

Vanity Fair reporter Emily Jane Fox, who obviously has an in with Michael Cohen, rather pointedly told Rachel Maddow tonight that Cohen wouldn’t just know what Trump’s been up to the past few decades, he’d also know what the children have done.

There needs to be rumors spread that the entire GOP is also in bed with Russher and they knew of the election meddling and welcomed it. We all know it is TRUE but the heat needs to be turned up to a billion on the Repugs. The Dems have too much integrity which is why we often lose. The entire party needs to have their motives and every move questioned outright NOT just Dump.

Looks like we bagged ourselves another witch boys!

R365 and what would that do? Because those that aren't Rethugs are already aware of this and those that are Deplorable Rethugs know this and don't care.

R360, listening now. It's a very dense in-depth and fascinating conversation. Hard to summarizes thus far. Give it a listen.

It's fascinating.

Lawfare pocast today discussed along other things a pardon. At this point it would be seen as witness tampering, an impeachable offense. Signals from Republicans in Congress to Trump that it would r going too far. Essentially it's too late for Trump to pardon Manafort.

Also, some concern Manafort will be like Webster Hubble in Whitewater: Central figure flipped but had nothing useful. Unlikely Mueller makes such a deal.

“Yeah comity and "resets" have to go. No more.”

Er? Oh, I get it, R358, you’re saying Gore shouldn’t have protested in 2000, and you’re getting out in front of the calls for a new election when it is shortly revealed that the actual voters in the 2016 General Election were tampered with, and that Hillary won the electoral election as well as the general. I guess “no resets” is what you have been instructed to disseminate in poor English across anonymous internet boards.

FUCK YOU.

R370 here: unless, R358, and I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here, you meant no more “let’s place nice with the Republicans” re-sets? Which did you mean?

“play nice”

From Michael Avenatti's twitter...

R370 how did you interpret me completely the opposite?

No more comity means no more playing nice with Republicans. Comity is commonly practiced among senators in particular. Feinstein is big on comity. Abnegation, accommodation, sometimes appeasement. So I'm saying no more of that.

"Resets" refers to the habit of new administrations to reapproach Russia for a fresh start. They're called "resets." So what I'm saying is we need to accept that Russia is an enemy and isn't interested in good-faith fresh starts with us.

I apologize, R376, I definitely got you wrong, which is why I re-posted once I realized another interpretation was possible. You do realize that “no do-overs”, “no re-sets” is being parroted by the right wing in regards to potentially contesting a hacked 2016 election though, don’t you?

R370/R372, with his delusions of grandeur “willing to give people a break” when he can’t even read properly! Must be feeling like shit right now, with wilted dick and his tail between his legs.

R378, actually what I did was apologize; I’m an adult. Further, DL is swamped by Russian trolls, not sure why you’re playing that one down.

[quote]why I re-posted once I realized another interpretation was possible.

But your other interpretation wasn’t even close. Next time ask first before accusing

R378 I posted r379 before I saw your apology, which wasn’t up yet when I started writing

I’m sorry, r377, I posted r378 before I saw your apology etc etc

Anyone recall who hand-picked Pence as Trump’s VP? Paul Manafort. And recall who led the squirrely transition? Mike Pence. Watch what unfolds as Manafort tells Mueller all he knows!

R354 Gore should have done this...

Two Russian spies were just arrested in Den Hague for trying to hack a Swiss laboratory that conducts chemical weapons tests.

r383 and who was it that got the Republican Party platform to be pro Putin?

Manafort

Should Pence be shaking in his shoes now that Manafort is going to sing?

My dreams might come true. Trump, Pence and Miss Graham all going down together.

R387 Yes, along with Ryan, Nunes, and Moscow Mitch McConnell.

Trump family be shittin' their drawers.....

R387, Paul Manafort’s Flip Is A Disaster For Mike Pence

[quote] Should Pence be shaking in his shoes now that Manafort is going to sing?

But ... but, I took all the measurements of the rooms in the White House! What am I supposed to do now? FUCK!

[quote]FUCK!

Mother, I never thought to hear the Devil's language pass your blameless lips. We'll pray this moment away now, and never speak of it again. Then we can look at drapes online together.

[quote]My dreams might come true. Trump, Pence and Miss Graham all going down together.

For the record, Mike and I have gone down together many times.

Trussiabots have greyed this thread out again even with the “asbestos eyeballs” setting — please W&W!

BUMP.

So would Mueller's best move against this administration target Pence before Trump? He's doing untold damage with his assembly line appointments of christo-fascists to mid-level positions across the executive branch. It's the sleight of hand we're not seeing.

Mueller’s best move is to go after family members now. As someone said up-thread, I think Mueller has all the pieces. Now he just wants multiple confirmations from separate witnesses so the case is airtight.

I hope this flip will implicate the core administration, but I want the investigation to get Nunes and Rohrbacher and some more of the peripheral players as well....

The thread still comes up on search, looking up "treason", no quotes.

I think you'll get your wish r398. Nunes is particular brazen, it's practically there for all to see.

Cohen knows the details on the Pee Pee tapes and spilled the beans to Mueller.

It will be interesting to watch the behavior of Pence, Nunes, Graham, Don Jr., Jared and Stone. I think Don Jr. is Trump’s weakest link.

Miss LG bashing the federal law enforcement and the judiciary to relent on pursuing DJT-Russher may backfire on her. The federal investigators may know what DJT-Putty knows.

Don't mess with oligarch tallywackers.

Perhaps take a look at the replies/comments to Lindsey Graham's tweet. Many in his home state are not happy with his behavior and are asking questions.

That financial relationship with Blavatnik is being questioned. Why can't cable TV anchors and reporters press him about it? He gets air time to attack the DOJ/FBI and flaunt his adoration for Kavanaugh, but doesn't explain his connections to PAC funds from a Putty associate.

Fyi, Seth Abramson's book Proof of Collusion (Simon & Schuster) available for pre-order:

Thank you, R405. Abramson was interviewed this week on Mueller, She Wrote. I'll buy it.

I forgot to mention miss Lindsey. I would say I want him to go down too, but I’m certain that ship has sailed. I hope any kompromat regarding him is exposed...

I like Abramson but he fucking skirts the issue with Tad Devine, which I think is cowardly. Devine literally gave evidence for the prosecution in the Manafort trial as a cooperating witness, probably in exchange for no prison time.

So it's been 12 hours since dunb'assed Donald has tweeted any of his bullshit. Is that a record, or has he been off Twitter any longer than this?

R398/R407. Miz Lindzey receives particular attention because she is on key Senate committees, craves camera attention, and is rather articulate with her talking points, as flawed and disturbing as the agenda behind them. Grassley is another annoyance, but less out front in garnering personal attention cheering for Trump. Others in the House that will go to all ends to promote, enable, and defend Trump include, but not limited to, Mark Meadows, Matt Gaetz, Louie Gohmert, Jim Jordan, DeSantis (running for Fla. Gov.), etc. They need pushback and countered.

R410

Oh, ffs, r411, just unblock.

R412

R412, how? I obviously had you blocked unnecessarily.

You know Trump is scared shitless when he doesn't comment on Twitter about a new development.

At the top of the screen are a few icons: a clock, an eye, a circle with a line through it and a magnifying glass. Click the circle with the line through it and it shows you everyone you have blocked. There, you can unblock them.

[quote] Either that or someone finally wrested his phone away from him.

^Sorry, that was supposed to be in reference to r415.

Someone might have changed Trump's password. Didn't they do that before?

I just want to know when Pence is going to resign.

Okay, so, one of my fuck buddies who works on the Hill just stopped over. During pillow talk, he was spilling some tidbits and I was mentally recording them so I could share them with you guys. Here we go:

- Rudy Guiliani has full-on dementia. His soon-to-be-ex-wife, Judith Guiliani (who is actually his third wife since his first marriage to his cousin was annulled) is writing a tell-all book in which lots of T will be dropped. He said that something happened to Rudy five years ago and he has been in decline ever since. His law firm was looking for an excuse to drop him and when he became an appendage of Donald Trump, they took advantage and got rid of him.

- my buddy is about 80% sure that Trump will be impeached based on what he has heard. Dems will take back the House and have a (more favorable by the day) chance of taking the Senate.

- Melania took a separate car to the State of the Union address even though she was supposed to accompany Trump. They have publicly fought in front of people and it’s not pretty.

- The reason that Michael Cohen and Lanny Davis are still insisting that Cohen has never been to Prague is that the Kremlin safehouse where he negotiated the DNC hack was outside of Prague proper so he technically never set foot in the actual city of Prague.

I’ll keep you posted if I find anything else out.

Thanks, R420. I especially like Cohen's nicety about not being in Prague.

Thanks r420 great scoop!

Okay, R420 has just become the star of the Treason threads!!

Does your buddy have any idea who the anonymous NYT source was?

My feeling is that Trump will leave after election day when it is proved that he was a massive whopping drag, causing them serious Senate loss. Pence will take over immediately, but my gut feeling is that he will be gone by the end of the year, wanting the lifetime status of ex-president, but not the Trump baggage, or his own, that goes with it. That way, they can get Ryan in as acting president for the rest of the term before the Dems come into power.

CNN is running a special on Puerto Rico and the death toll. No deplorables will watch it, naturally, but it should drive Cheetoh nuts.

R423, there was no discussion of the source of the NYT op-ed (honestly, I completely forgot to ask), but my friend did mention something about the Trumps going into “exile.” Not quite sure what that could mean.

He also told me to read the entire Steele Dossier again.

In addition, there was some other person who was going to get the George Papadopoulos treatment, but investigators realized that he wasn’t in on the important meeting that we keep seeing pictures of. The reason? The guy is autistic and “acts weird” so he was kept out of meetings with Trump and was, therefore, inadvertently shielded from similar exposure.

Happy to report any additional news I come across to my DL brethren. I will fuck for gossip!

^^Forgot to sign the above.

This slipped my mind to report since it’s just so obvious, but everyone on the Hill (even GOP) thinks that Pence is a closet case. Someone else said that on this thread earlier, so this is really just further confirmation.

[quote] In addition, there was some other person who was going to get the George Papadopoulos treaatment, but investigators realized that he wasn’t in on the important meeting that we keep seeing pictures of. The reason? The guy is autistic and “acts weird”

Miller?q

Even if it wasn't obvious Rudy has dementia it's been clear for awhile he's a degenerate liar. So I can't figure out why reporters rush to breathlessly report every word he utters. He sand-bagged NPR just yesterday telling them Manafort's deal had a clause he wouldn't talk about Trump and the agreement shows Manafort has to talk about everything.

But I'll bet there are reporters even this morning hearing from Rudy and they'll write it up later as 'sources close to the President say....'

In certain ways, if Giuliani has dementia, the Trump team can use that to an advantage. When Giuliani makes proven false statements or blatant contradictions, they can blame it on confusion or short-term memory loss. Otherwise, he's being used to fling shit on the wall and see what sticks.

[Quote] Even if it wasn't obvious Rudy has dementia it's been clear for awhile he's a degenerate liar. So I can't figure out why reporters rush to breathlessly report every word he utters.

He's America's Mayor!

Haven't you read posts HERE by stealth trolls admitting their love for Rudy because of the way he UNITED THE COUNTRY after September 11th? "And I still give him respect for that" and other shit.

Interesting, R431.

[quote] - Rudy Guiliani has full-on dementia.

LOL. Trump hiring only the best as always.

Draining the Swamp and building that wall.

Trump, a man of his words.

[In addition, there was some other person who was going to get the George Papadopoulos treatment, but investigators realized that he wasn’t in on the important meeting that we keep seeing pictures of. The reason? The guy is autistic and “acts weird” so he was kept out of meetings with Trump and was, therefore, inadvertently shielded from similar exposure.]

I just wanted to see what daddy was doing!

There has also been some scuttlebutt around town about the Trump family “going into exile.”

R420 just got me high...

[quote][R420] just got me high...

That’s what it’s for.

Pence must have taken one look at that immense gay face and hired him on the spot.

The media needs to stop salivating over garnering interviews with Rudy Giuliani, and giving Lindsey Graham and national audience daily.

Both need to answer questions more personal in this saga. Giuliani's collaborative engagement with the NYC FBI field office per advanced knowledge of DNC/HRC Emails releases/re-investigating by the FBI; and Graham's 180 after "golfing" with Trump, both have lingering, suspicious dimensions.

Rudy's denial doesn't match what he exclaimed and implied at the time. Lindsey's declaration that he is "my President and I will help him", is not good enough.

Pretty much, R440.

r432 I guess my response to that would be he may have done a wonderful job then, but he's sure an asshole now.

His Tweet this morning is every bit as crazy and harmful as any Trump Tweet. Not only is it demonstrably false, until proven otherwise he is the source he's "quoting".

440 is right. The press needs to stop with him unless they're going to ask hard questions. He's an inveterate liar and is doing nothing but spreading disinformation. Just stop talking to him unless you're going to press him on his own involvement in this mess.

[quote] The media needs to stop salivating over garnering interviews with Rudy Giuliani, and giving Lindsey Graham and national audience daily.

Like trolls they are trying to push people's buttons. That's their real job these days (and not reporting the news objectively or answer questions). Of course there are exceptions like Rachel Maddow.

Yes. I think CNN bans the wretched Kellyanne for periods of time, but they always weaken. And it's like Lucy and the football... she has one purpose and one purpose only, but they fall for it.

Especially you, Christopher...

This freedom from his tweets and the various disruptions he loves is bliss. Wish it could last forever.

Pretty confident here, Trump will not go down unless Pence is brought down beforehand or at the same time. Trump will squeal on Pence if he sees him taking over. Trump will do a 'Lying Ted' job on Pence. Wonder what nickname Trump has for Pence already? Trump may see Pence useful for pardons, but Trump will attempt to do the pardon rounds himself before he would be forced out of office.

Trump's full base will not automatically get behind Pence in an enthusiastic way. Pence will captivate the hardcore religious fundamentalists, but not the other components of Trump's support. The old GOP establishment is not crazy about Pence anyway. In the past, the Koch Bros we're generous to Pence. But they will give to someone that looks more of a winner.

Trump does not hide his emotions and attitudes. Pence can fake allegiances. I don't want to see Pence rewarded or elevated. Trump has no loyalties except to himself and perhaps some family members. Ironically, he would be more apt to work with a Democratic controlled Congress as long as what he signs are "wins". Pence is more party ideology and even more susceptible to special interests and their donors.

[quote]I hope he is somewhere soiling himself

Oh fuck! Is this Saturday? Here we go again.

R426 Thanks! As for his suggestion' to read the entire Steele Dossier again', Chuck Todd at MSNBC will never live his idiocy (here/link) down.

Everyone needs to WW OP back out of gray

Is Trump still silent?

Bump

2020 may be the Year of Three Presidents...

R452 it may be 2018.

Bill Maher called out the fact that the deplorables are getting wise to scam.

Republican donor renounces Republican Party affiliation after Obama stops in Columbus

"I just decided I'm no longer a Republican," said L Brands CEO Leslie H. Wexner, speaking during a panel discussion about civility at Miranova's Ivory Room billed as a "Columbus Partnership and YPO Leadership Summit."

"I'm an independent," he said. "I won't support this nonsense in the Republican Party. I've been a Republican since college, joined the Young Republican Club at Ohio State.

Suppose Trump is out, and Pence becomes President. If he is out before a new VP is confirmed by the Senate, does the Speaker of the House still become President? Seems likely, but who knows?

Before the late 1960s, there was no way to fill a VP vacancy, after a VP was elevated to the Presidency. Imagine that!

[quote] Suppose Trump is out, and Pence becomes President. If he is out before a new VP is confirmed by the Senate, does the Speaker of the House still become President? Seems likely, but who knows?

We know -- thanks to the Presidential Succession Act.

[quote] (a) (1) if, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.

After Trump has been convicted of treason and sentenced to death, let's send him to San Juan, Puerto Rico. Tie him to a stake and let them throw rolls of paper towels at him until the pile is big enough for a bonfire. Let the Mayor of San Juan set it ablaze with a torch.

It would kill him even more if PR became a state. All those brown citizens....nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I don't trust the guards watching Manafort in prison. Someone could get to them... Manafort needs to be able to testify in court. Just getting his affidavits etc. aren't enough.

Did anybody see Richard Clarke on Real Time With Bill Maher last night? He was talking about how it was reported by our IC that the Russians have infiltrated our electrical system - "the red lights are flashing" - and no one in the WH iis paying any attention.

Pretty scary stuff!

[quote] Bill Maher called out the fact that the deplorables are getting wise to scam.

How so?

Sorry if this make me sound like the concerned troll, but I wouldn't put it past the Deplorables to volunteer at the midterm election and fuck with people, and their votes, who don't pass their smell test. Make extra sure that your vote counts by showing up at the right voting station where you can't be sent away, for example.

^^ OR - register for an absentee ballot. It doesn't occur to most people, but that's what Malcolm Nance has been recommending. He's doing it.

[quote]How so?

In his "new Rules" segment he was talking about the Republicans in and out of the White House who are talking shit about Trump, that they're being harder on him than the Democrats are.

This old coot with the sign...

Hillary?

Go back to Reddit, R468, or were you banned along with the Pizzagate threads?

Geez, r469, just because r467/r468 cracks a somewhat funny joke that involves Hillary Clinton doesn’t mean he’s endorsing or supporting Manafort. Chill out.

One of the main newspapers should hire a mildly artistic or aspergers type nerd (like Rainman) who can spit out accurate, sometimes obscure facts to swiftly counter liars and bullshitters, and station him in the White House pool of correspondents, so he can swiftly knock down Sarah HS at every opportunity.

Senator Calls To Delay Kavanaugh Vote

“I just decided I’m no longer a Republican,” he said.

Les Wexner is gay, no? I used to live in Columbus and there were whispers.

Coast Guard member flashes "white power" hand sign while being televised.

^ I'm not usually one to buy into that stuff... I am highly skeptical about that woman behind Kavanaugh (who I think is probably odious enough)... but watching that tape from the Coast Guard... that guy looks like he's trying to sneak it in.... I would like to be wrong but he looks like Eddie Haskell to me.

That woman was as obvious as this guy.

R470 got into a fight with another poster here yesterday when HE attacked someone else and then "didn't see their apology."

He's also obsessed with P edos.

Reddit Troll on the loose here.

R470 = trashbag

That is, If r470 is the “I blocked you but I’m going to stalk your posts anyway” which I thought briefly but now not sure.

It’s probably all the same freak with 50 devices but if I’m wrong then get over it.

[quote]It would kill him even more if PR became a state. All those brown citizens....nooooooooooooooooo - oooooooo

Puerto Ricans are already US citizens.

But Puerto Rico is not a state r481, and they can't vote for president there.

Republicans will go absolutely ape-shit if PR ever becames a state, knowing how overwhelmingly liberal they are there.

This nightmare is coming to an end but it’s going to be like the bad guy in the movie. He’s not dead until that last move.

Keep at it!

If you believe the coast guard guy was making a white supremacist sign, you might as well believe Kavanaugh's (former?) staff member Zina was, too, because her gesture was just as contrived and conspicuous.

You know, for the longest time, I didn’t believe this "white power" hand signal. But there’s no way this many people are doing it accidentally. What the fuck is going on?

I've had r470 blocked for awhile, just sayin'.

[quote]^^Forgot to sign the above.—R420

I think of you, fondly, as Hill Whore with a Heart of Gold

r404 makes me so happy

[quote]This freedom from his tweets and the various disruptions he loves is bliss. Wish it could last forever.

Correction: Zina's white supremacist gesture was even MORE contrived and conspicuous than the coast guard guy's—I just rewatched the video and he really just flashes it (after furtively checking out his view of the camera), whereas she held hers at an odd angle for a bit of time.

R485, it means that white supremacism is mainstreamed—there are people out there who think whites should have privileged status (or even the only status) in American civil society, and thanks to Trump and the Republicans generally, their more and more open about it. Good to see some pushback.

R465 is a Scat Troll.

It's sick thinking what some people here masturbate about.

Didn't that gesture used to be the okay gesture? There's no doubt the deplorables are sneaking this in on purpose, but when did they start doing it?

r492 It started as a 4chan hoax - but of course, people can be trolls and racists at the same time.

August two years ago, before the 2016 election—

"We don't know why Trump's top advisors have ties to Putin."

"Trump advisor Michael Flynn is weirdly, strangely friendly with Vladimir Putin's regime."

"We don't know why Russia is trying to influence this election . . . or why Donald is inviting them to."

"We don't know how much Trump has invested in Russia . . . or how much they've invested in him."

"We don't know what's going on here, and Donald won't tell us."

"We'll let you guess."

"Some" of DJT's base supporters are beginning to accept they have been fed lies. They largely embrace Trump views, but are recognizing the conflicts in information delivered.

On policy matters, part of it can be chalked-up to how politics works with his methodology. However with the Mueller investigation, they see the indictments, and are acknowledging that perhaps Trump really has been playing around badly with Putin. These base voters probably never had a passion for Russia, but were willing to not question Trump's assertions about his involvement with "Russher". ---------------

An interesting tweet. Similar link someone posted earlier.

Pelosi and Trump both understand that impeachment motivates the Deplorables. That is why Pelosi is taking it off the table and Trump is screaming about it.

Trump can scream all he wants, impeachment (and worse for him) is coming when Mueller lowers the boom.

People can scream and wail and gnash their teeth about Pelosi, but she’s an effective and shrewd operator...

Is he still off twitter?

And....

r499 He's back.

The Deplorables, who believe they've been had, are not going to vote in the mid-terms. But I doubt they will tell that to their Deplorable friends that. They will just claim that they've called to vote at a different station.

Both the trolls I called out earlier this morning cleared their cookies since then in the last 3 hours!

PROOF they are Trolls!

Which were those R503 (yes I'm too lazy to look)?

Imagine if all the Puerto Ricans who had to flee and ended up in Florida voted.

Still puzzled about this clearing cookies thing. When I return my computer to its original state, software and hardware wise, I lose my cookies and have to wait, like, forever until Datalounge lets me post again. Last time it was exactly a week. How can you have gazillion of IDs on one computer and keep visiting DL until it lets you post with your ID? This several IDs thing would totally trip me up and go, well, bonkers. No wonder trolls are so shizo.

R506 most likely someone with multiple accounts, clearing their cookies, is using a paid subscription.

I actually would like to see Trump go to jail for the rest if his life. Him in a max security prison, locked up in a cell with zero luxury would be the sweetest justice.

r507, but that paid subscription is only for one ID, right? This isn't some Netflix situation where several IDs can use the same subscription number, or is it? I mean Muriel would know when a single subscription is used by several IDs and immediately spot it as someone trolling and mark all these IDs as trolls when the comments show that.

I'm pretty sure it can be, R509. It can be used across several devices.

R508 I want that for Ivanka too.

Yes, r511.....

A family that grifts together ... should go to prison together.

R501 yep. Bone Spurs is of the belief if you repeat a lie many, many times, it becomes believable.

R514 because it's always worked for him.

1) he lies to himself until he believes it and then 2) he lies to deplorables and they believe it.

Why would he change things now?

Who knew his voluminous silence would be so resounding?

Says everything without saying a word.

How dare he refer to Mueller as “Bob.” Honey, Robert Mueller III is not your friend. He is not someone for which you can use familiarities.

You fat Orange CUNT.

R517 it's what he does. He calls everyone out of their name because he's a 7 year old and it makes him feel powerful and better about himself.

Sort of off-topic, but I guess the girl Kavanaugh attacked in HS has gone public. It turns out she passed a polygraph. If Kavanaugh withdraws, maybe Trump can nominate Roy Moore; I don't think any of his accusers took lie detector tests.

On yesterday’s AM Joy, Jennifer Rubin likened Teump’s tweet about the Puerto Rico death toll to Holocaust denialism.

a big thank you to the former intern and the capitol hill whore who have given us some juicy tidbits.

Is hill whore the same person who has run into one or two people with gossip in the elevator?

This is why i keep coming back here. Real time, real gossip on current issues.

Thank you. Everyone who posts these tidbits.

Again, I doubt Kav would step down. None of them have any decency.

Here's the story in the Washington Post. She sounds credible. This will be a problem. And I feel damned sorry for her... her life is about to explode.

^ I will try to find another thread for it.

there is a thread already... sorry for muddying the Mueller waters...

The Mueller threads are all encompassing. I don't think people here mind overlap.

R493 ah, thanks for the background.

[quote]Bone Spurs is of the belief if you repeat a lie many, many times, it becomes believable.

It's more than possible he got that from Goebbels. Such is a stable genius. Good times.

I'm not the Hill Whore just the former Congressional Intern to a 25 year vet down south.

My contacts in his office say there are at least 27 Repugs in the House alone who will go down in the Mueller investigation with links to Russia money and interference. Repugs in the House are not freaking out as much as you'd think because they all believe Dump will stop this somehow OR they will cooperate and hope to "step down for family reasons" as some already have. Oh and some who have already stepped down HAVE cooperated.

They also shared with me they have not seen this level of energy to vote ever. They said this year makes 2006 look tiny in comparison.

Is there any chance that Pence is currently leading the coup against Trump? First comes the NYT letter which feeds into Donald's paranoia. Then someone whispers in Donald's ear that Mattis is a secret democrat. All leading to a confrontation between Trump and Mattis, at which point Trump finally does something so deranged that Mattis is forced to order Trump restrained and quickly calls a meeting of the cabinet, convincing everyone that they need to vote on the 25th. He's the only one with the balls to take the lead and persuade everyone it needs to be done.

Pence heroically steps in as President and gives a sad speech to the country about how Donald had a breakdown due to the harassment of democrats. A recording is released to the country, so the entire country can hear Donald's breakdown, which we all knew was coming, right? Trump is sent to "recover" at a military hospital. He is officially diagnosed with some kind of dementia, and the sad diagnosis is shared with the world, at which point a lot of people report "Told you so." Trump doesn't bother to challenge the coup, because he cannot understand what is happening. JaVanka are given a choice... go along with things, and Pence will make sure they never spend a day in jail. Ivanka gives a sad speech to the country, thanking President Pence for his support during this difficult time. Pence hires a new attorney general, Mueller is fired, Don Jr. is actually arrested and imprisoned, and Pence tells the country it's time to let the past go so that everyone can heal. When opponents try to bring up the crookedness of the Trump administration, Pence sadly shakes his head at how someone could politicize the issue of dementia.

[quote]Oh and some who have already stepped down HAVE cooperated.

Bet that includes Jason Chaffetz.

I don't think Pence is smart enough. Seriously.

Where do the Kochs stand on the religious nuts?

The same Jason Chaffetz who has appeared on FOX news numerous times since he left congress and bashes anti-Trumpers including the Mueller investigation?

I'm not so sure.

[quote]My contacts in his office say there are at least 27 Repugs in the House alone who will go down in the Mueller investigation with links to Russia money and interference.

Suddenly, I see! All this time I thought Republicans were just being tribal... more to the point, a lot of them are covering their own guilty asses.

Mattis might be a secret Democrat.

Pence is white haired deep in this Russia stuff as well. He is going down. He is not the person who is leading this charge. They all know he is going down as well.

r533 Kochs are not into the religious conservo shit but those folks vote for all there tax cuts/dereg stuff. Remember, the Kochs are "libertarians" who supposedly support gay marriage and such.

Thanks R536. See, I know the Kochs claim to have broken with or backed away from Agent Orange, but I thought I recalled they played a big part in the selection of Pence and I was trying to sort out if it was because he's on a mission from God or just on a mission from God and finds time to do what the Kochs want. I can't figure any of these carpetbaggers out, except it is generally safe to assume they're all up to nothing helpful.

I really wouldn't believe anything the Koch's or Drumpf says about who they are aligned with.

Ultimately they'll both side with whoever benefits them financially.

Yeah, the Kochs don't give a shit about the US, the world, or other humans. They only care about themselves and what benefits them and only them.

R538 Yes, that is ultimately what they care about. But they do not push the conservo religious shit.

When I said at least 27 House Repugs were going down I need to emphasize the "at least" part. They believe there are more and it could and likely will involve a majority of the Repugs in Congress but it depends on evidence collected and who flips.

Whoever guessed Chaffetz is probably right. :)

Yeah, R540 but they don't do anything to fight back against the conservo religious shit either.

They stay silent.

Complicity is the same thing.

It's not that they are silent about it. They facilitate it to keep the masses distracted and occupied. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they have their hands in producing Reality TV for that very reason.

[quote]they will cooperate and hope to "step down for family reasons" as some already have. Oh and some who have already stepped down HAVE cooperated.

I don't want to see Repugs who had a hand in what amounted to, in my opinion, election theft just be allowed to cooperate and then step down. I want to see those bitches go to jail. Call me crazy, but I seriously doubt if I got caught committing a crime that just my saying "oops, sorry" would be enough to keep my ass out of prison and it shouldn't be enough for them either.

Well, R543 it's not their fault if they committed a crime and didn't KNOW they were committing a crime!!!

No really, try applying that logic to the average person and see how much they'd get away with.

Yeah and they still collect their pensions. And do "consulting" work for their wealthy lobby friends. Bastards.

No one said they would be allowed to get off R543, r544, r545. That is THEIR hope but none of my contacts know what Mueller would offer them.

I hope kavanaugh is fucked now! Very brave of her to go public!

The Kochs were in bed with jim Demint who was the main guy trying to marry religo nuts with republicans.

So they are not above going there.

Anything they say publicly is usually a lie.

[quote]it's not their fault if they committed a crime and didn't KNOW they were committing a crime!!!

I swear, your honor, I didn’t know that murder and rape were against the law! That period of my life was just sooooo hectic.

How far are we from Drumpf preemptively throwing out pardons to his kids and himself?

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. If you want to. know who's been"to bed" with Trump, so to speak, look at everyone in Congress who has announced they will not run for re-election. Take bottom-feeder Paul Ryan, for example!

Rethugs will never agree to a postponement.

Kavanaugh is a good good man.

I can pardon Kavanaugh, right?

Kavanugh? So what? Nothing wrong with a little locker room play!

That's gross, R560 because that is exactly what they'd say.

"It wasn't rape rape."

"They let you do everything ... grab them by the pussy"

I did, R563!

R564, of course you did.

Only she didn't want you to grab her by the pussy, you fucking perv.

What would happen if the Dems just didn’t show? Or refused to cast a vote? Is that the same thing as forfeiting, the Repubs automatically take the vote then?

Has anyone interviewed Susan Collins? Or Murkowski?

[quote]What would happen if the Dems just didn’t show? Or refused to cast a vote? Is that the same thing as forfeiting, the Repubs automatically take the vote then?

Essentially yes. They'd go with the votes available and Kavanaugh would be in. The Democrats need to be present at full strength and VOTE.

So Kavanaugh went to an all male school, and yet he got 65 signatures from girls that he knew in high school in less than a day's time. He already knew this was coming. I call shenanigans.

Yes, R568, that strongly implies that Kavanaugh told Republicans on the Judiciary Committee that there might be an "issue."

Did anyone even verify if those signatures are from actual people?

I couldn't even name 65 girls I knew in high school (and that was just a few years ago)... and I went to a co-ed school.

Remarkable isn't it? How many of you could find 65 women currently in your life now who could attest to what a wonderful person you are let alone from 30 years go?

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out.

Those 65 include his wife's friends, women he knows that he has not had any controversy with, spouses of old colleagues, parents of kid's friends, fellow church members, etc. Note, Kavanaugh has a support and advisory team behind him. A PAC is running tv ads promoting him. His handlers can find the people they need.

Still, I actually believe Kavanaugh's nomination is in trouble. Dems in red states have a political outlet not to vote for him. It will take just two Republicans to vote against him. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski could vote no if the story gets more revealing and pressure mounts. They will not want to vote affirmatively on someone under the cloud of sexual assault allegations.

Has Kirsten Gillibrand commented?

I don't believe that Murkowski or Collins will vote against him.

I thought those 65 were all supposedly from people who knew him back then.

Republican Jeff Flake announced a vote on Kavanaugh needs to be postponed until the Judiciary Committee interviews the woman with the accusation.

Flake is on his way out, no?

McConnell knew there was an issue with Kavanaugh and did not want his name advanced.

Trump nominated Kavanaugh because he is a proponent of authoritative executive power and went on record opposing criminal investigations and indictments of a sitting President.

R578 yes.

Correct, R578. He's not running for reelection, which also gives the Democrats a chance of a Senate pickup in Arizona.

However, Flake, like all of his peers, frequently expresses "concern" and then folds under pressure.

Based on the articles I've read, r579, McConnell's concern was not about Kavanaugh's character but about his paper trail. They solved that problem by simply not making those documents available.

OP, you may need to refine your thread-opening procedures to repost the same content as OP at r1. The OP text sometimes gets grayed out and picture lost, even to those on asbestos setting and WWing the OP.

R567 but I thought I read somewhere that if there aren’t a certain number of Dems present the committee can’t call a vote? Is that not the case? Aren’t X numbers of committee members REQUIRED for a meeting to be held? Can someone confirm this?

A committee chair can suspend the rules, R584, as Republicans did for some of Trump's cabinet picks last year.

They need at least 51 Senators for a vote under current rules, which is the number of Republicans there.

Link to new thread for when this one fills up.

R584, if you go by the usual Committee rules, there must be nine members present, with two members of the minority party, for any Committee "business" to be conducted. Of course, as R585 notes, the rules can be suspended. I seem to recall that the Committee chair can also direct the sergeant-at-arms to hunt down two minority party members and compel them to appear.

I put this in the new thread as well.

"There's all kinds of studies on this that we take a look at," he continued. "Spousal abuse goes through the roof. You can't blame spousal abuse after a disaster on anybody."

So what is Nunes' angle on this?

r591 What does "Dead Eyes" Devin Nunes think he is going to accomplish by releasing the transcripts? It might make the Deplorables less likely to vote rather than more likely.

I wondered the same thing. There has to be an angle that supports their 'no collusion' BS, like if the documents are carefully redacted to remove any harmful information, or if only the documents supporting their claim are declassified. I don't for one second expect Nunes to suddenly sprout an honest bone in his corrupt body.

Link to new thread.

It could be a couple of things. Technically, Nunes stepped down from his lead position on the committee for this investigation, with Conway taking the lead. Conway is, so far, not going along with this, so there could be a good cop / bad cop thing going on.

It could also just be a distraction, trying to change the subject, throw a lot of chaff out there, knowing that the media will look through everything, which could, at least temporarily, get rid of a few topics that Republicans really don't like right now.

Kyle Cheney's Twitter feed is showing that Nunes isn't telling the truth.

[quote]They’re not classified. Nunes has no classification or declassification authority. Committee Dems have been calling for months to make these transcripts public.

Adam Schiff on Nunes' tactic:

[quote]Nunes promised to release all the witness interviews, then reneged. We hope this time he will follow through.The American people deserve to see what the witnesses said, the many questions they would not answer, and the how often the Majority — to protect Trump — let them refuse.

Link to new thread below.

Closing this thread out.