US Open 2018 - Thread IV

My eyes will never forgive you, OP.

He looks like a POW.

Novak is going to let Millman punch himself out.

You beat me to it OP. Here is the pic I was going to use ...

A wuh, wuh, wuh man? I can't even bring myself to write the word, R4.

Well, after all OP, you posted a martian....

I could have posted a hobbit:

In my heart I want Millman team, but Djokovic has a better chance of beating Nadal.

I want Millman tonight, Nadal for the trophy.

What I wouldn't give for a Nishikori-Delpo final...

Well yes, of course the would be a beautiful thing r10, I'd totally love that

wow, Millman is full of piss and vinegar! Love this guy

omg thank you OP! So DL does love me after all!

As I promised, i give you my heart!

the other night the crowd cheered for Roger against this guy? Why when he plays me, they now cheer for him?

Something about Djokovic is just sooo unlikable.

Very diplomatic to keep that singular, R15.

Nice, slim body and very revealing bathing suit.

I kind of like Djokovic when he gets angry and testy. Who the fuck cares whether the audience likes you or not, go get the job done and that shuts them up.

there is nothing to reveal.

Martina Navratilova went through that for years when she dominated the WTA. No one cheered for her. She just went about her business and got the job done, but much like Djokovic, she really craved the crowd to cheer for her. I remember once she told the crowd something like, "Yes, please clap for me!"

R20

[quote] Martina Navratilova went through that for years when she dominated the WTA. No one cheered for her. She just went about her business and got the job done, but much like Djokovic, she really craved the crowd to cheer for her. I remember once she told the crowd something like, "Yes, please clap for me!"

I've always liked Navratilova. I've always cheered for her against Evert or Austin, she was the tennis of the future when these country club bitches were still playing moonballs from the baseline. I always felt that, for such a great player, arguably one of the best in history and one who really revolutionized women's tennis by bringing athleticism and power ply into it, she never got the respect she deserved.

^^play

Martina's issue she was up against America's Sweetheart as well as being an immigrant and later an open lesbian.

The whole lez thing wasn't a help in those days

R24 An open lesbian for what?

Well, R22, she did eventually get the love of the crowd when she was older. I remember the 1994 Wimbledon final, the crowd was cheering for her, but Conchita Martinez won. Then when she came back to the tour to play exclusively doubles, people cheered hard for her. She had earned her legend status and was treated with love from the fans. She just wished she could have had that when she was dominating the tour.

Martina always came across as rather arrogant and cocky.

[quote] "Yes, please clap for me!"

I have a vague memory of her saying something like "I hope one day you can like me" at Wimbledon.

This is my first time seeing Millman. I like the slutty shorts, which used to be the norm. Well, the shortness was the norm, but maybe not quite that tight on the thigh and ass. Thank's Millman.

Rampant lesbianism!

wow short changing at 2-2 lol humid as hell

ZOMG

Serena and Venus never got a ton of crowd support until the second half of their careers. When they were dominating in the early 2000s, many saw them as superhuman powerful and fast amazons who were unfairly beating "real women" on the tour. It was only about the last decade or so that things changed and now they are fan favorite legends.

Davenport never got much love either because her game while smooth was unathletic and she never gave much energy to the crowd.

Djokovic has never been attractive to me. To narrow of a head and too thin. Not that he's ugly. I imagine a lot of DLers think he's perfect.

They have a lingering shirtless player shot for once, and it it's concentration camp victim Novak?

why he took off last year,,,i made him,left him on the road alone:((...jelena

Davenport was also chunky in her playing days.

Serena in particular was not all that well liked from 2001-7 or so.

Really, if Djokovic gained 20 lbs of muscle he could be hot. He's just so emaciated it's disgusting

He has new crow's feet though. He used to good skin.

Damn, it was nice to have a Chris Fowler break. Now I have to listen to his inane banter.

Gif version

Okay, I guess Millman's shorts were riding up and clinging because he was soaked. They'e not that short and tight.

R43, they ride up with wear.

Nole.

Millman looks like the actor Jackie Earle Haley.

I wouldn't even say that Djokovic is playing all that great tonight, 40+ unforced errors, low conversion rate on BPs (for his standards), and it's still enough to keep this match under full control. I guess Millman is back to his 55-ranked level of play.

Novak isn't doing so bad in this heat....much better than Roger who crumbled like a cookie. Maybe Roger tanked deliberately.

Lindsay slimmed down quite a bit toward the latter part of her career. She was never a great mover, but it helped.

R48, I'm not Federer's biggest fan, but I can't imagine he would ever tank a match. He's 37; he's just not consistent any more.

Millman is showing a lot of fight.

[quote] Maybe Roger tanked deliberately.

I read an article somewhere suggesting that, perhaps, Roger's plan to reduce his schedule may not have a positive effect in the long run. Even if he were not a dominant factor on clay courts, there would be more continuity and matches under his belt. In the end, he faltered at the two places for which all that supposed energy conservation was for: Wimbledon and the US Open.

No, Roger didn't look like he was even trying...that's why there were so many people thought it was match fixing or something...

Millman and Luetjen work together quite palatably.

Roger is 37 and the heat ate away at him.

[quote] Roger is 37 and the heat ate away at him.

Ate.

I think Roger was having an off night. The heat and him not getting the start time he wanted probably didn't help. I can remember Chrissie talking about as she got older, it was harder to maintain her intensity level over several rounds, and was more prone to having days where nothing was really working.

More like so many delusional people, R52. The idea that Roger Federer, of all players, would be involved in match fixing is void of both logic and evidence.

Federer hasn't won the USO since 2008. He wants to win this again before he retires. No way would he tank

Good regroup from Djokovic after letting the time violation calls get to him. Let's see if he can serve it out.

Match fixing is a very serious offence as far as ITF is concerned. No way Federer would risk tarnishing his legacy by doing that.

Damn, I was hoping the Aussie would win. Novak is too good.

Now, i'm rooting for Rafa.

The crowd is running for the exits before Nole can talk about being their sweetheart.

In the International Tennis Federation, matching fixing offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Tomic Fixing Unit.

People did not like Monica Seles either for the grunting and unorthodox game — until she was stabbed and came back and everyone loved her. A shame really.

Actually correction - they liked her when she was 15/16 as the challenger. They didn’t like her when she was dominant

This is really a distraction. We should be focusing on the good things dems are doing, doing pieces on up and coming dems. instead, just more BS about this cunt. i'm so sick of this. They love the chaos. The media loves it. They are getting more clicks on their pages. They are making money, they love Trump.

Even after Monica came back people attacked her. Anyone remember people calling her "hag with a frying pan?"

And then she was hag with a knife in her back.

R67 is as lost as Roger was on court a couple nights ago.

The industry people, including media were totally cunty to her. Like any of them ever knew what it was like to go through that. This was before 9/11, and before the MCI every 12hrs we have now. And it happened on the court, FFS.

Both women's semis at night? WTF?

Dear God, Joker looks manorexic 🤢

Idk but I always like Nole. He seems ok to me. I think he comes across as arrogant coz maybe he have a big dick? hehehe.

R72, ESPN wants ratings. How many times do we have to make this point? More people watch at night.

What was the big Schiavone news? Did she finally capture Dorothy and her little dog too?

Wow Novak has a really long neck. Team Rafa or Delpo for the win.

Evert went through crowd hatred after she and Connors were sweetheart Wimbledon champs and didn't get back public support until she lost the 79 USO final to Austin. She got a standing o as runner up because she always accepted defeat as graciously as she did victory. Navratilova was an obnoxious winner/loser for most of her career, even as she was the most entertaining and daring player ever. Crowds are fickle.

Tomic Fixing Unit???

Nothing can fix Tomic.

Thanks R75.

And have a few prunes, doll.

R72 they did it at least since last year too. don't remember when it started. I like it.

r57 oh my

Nole.

R49: LIndsay became a threat for top players when she lost some weight. She was not fast, but she was way faster than before and that made a big difference

R68: Seles was liked when she started, when she was the teen defying Stefii's throne. But once she did the job, everything that people liked in her (the unorthodox game, the grunting) suddenly became annoying. Not that it matters because she was very dominant during that period.

Federer simply had an off day. He is 37, he can't be the dominant player anymore, he just needs to rely to have two fantastics wins and win in all. In my opinion if he is healthy he will have chances but he won't be the favourite (and even less if the younger generation starts to rise the level, something that'll happen sooner or later). The heat made him more vulnerable, and Millman trust in his posibilities (something a lot of players are unable to do)

Kubot/Melo into the final. In the penultime game Jaziri served on Albot's head. Literally

I liked Djokovic's body so much better when he did the Vogue photo shoot in 2011.

He looks more muscular and athletic there

By the way there are a lot of articles here in Spain about how rude was the audience of CSN-Keys match, and say they were totally disrespectful to the players making noise (the fact that one crowd is compared negatively with the RG crowd here in Spain is a lot)

SO much hotter, R87.

Blake on welcoming the gays on ATP tour

R88 and r90, when Djokovic had that more muscular body in 2011, he won the Aussie Open, Wimbledon, and the U.S. Open, and he also made it to the semis at the French.

^ and those THIGHS

love James Blake. He's intelligent and good-looking. 1 of the hardest forehands on tour, probably only less powerful than Fernando Gonzalez'. It's a shame he couldn't have won any big titles but at least he cracked the top 10. Hopefully the younger male American generation of tennis players will be as intelligent and thoughtful as he is when it comes to respecting and caring about other people

There's something about Sevastova. I love her personality.

The Seles story is so tragic. She was on her way to being one of the best, having won seven of eight grand slams before the stabbing. And almost no mention of her from any commentator. Didn’t she win 3 us opens?

Serena not moving well again. Sevestova could take this.

Seles won the US Open twice and would've been the dominant women's player of the 90s if she hadn't been stabbed. She had Graf's number.

Don’t want no short, short man...

I agree, R96. And Seles was really the one who ushered in the modern power game off both sides. As her opponents used to say, there was no reprieve and no real weak side. The only way to get a break from her power was to make her run wide so she'd have to let go of her two-handed grips, but that was hard to do as she got the jump on the first ball. She was the first to really do first-strike tennis.

She was only getting better, too, when she got stabbed. She was never the same player mentally after the stabbing. She lost that laser focus. Her getting stabbed changed the course of tennis history.

And emphasized what a cold, opportunistic, tunnel-visioned pragmatist Graf is.

And she was probably the first woman to play more aggressive when she was down. Loved her...

Monica's match against Capriati, 25+ years later, is still better than, well, pretty much any other women's tennis match since.

Is Serena going to get Vinci'd again tonight?

I loved that match...

Just noticed how hot Venus's boyfriend is!

kiddin tight?

Fun fact: Monica Seles is 44, her husband is 76.

More important fun fact: he's worth over $2 Billion.

Monica has always had a daddy complex when it comes to men she was seeing.

Cicak is the worst umpire I've ever seen. She was so wrong about that serve call on the first point of game 3 and has now handed Serena the lead. Sevastova should be ahead 4-2.

Marija seems half asleep during matches. She also seems to have it out for Vika all the time too - messes up calls in her matches a lot.

[quote] Monica's match against Capriati, 25+ years later, is still better than, well, pretty much any other women's tennis match since.

So I take it that it was compelling?

*game 4

Ugh. I know the party line is that Serena is the Greatest Player of All and also the Greatest Mother of All, but if she ends up winning the US Open in that kind of shape, it really makes women's tennis look like a complete fucking joke.

Fuck she's gonna win.

I’m sure someone said this when she wore it the other day, but that blue tutu getup is godawful.

Sevestova has given up.

What a joke.

Really want the winner of the next match to beat Serena but doubtful it will happen.

66 minutes. Pathetic.

If Serena wins Saturday it would be great if it was her last.

HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

The cut of her socks make it look like she’s wearing powder blue cowboy boots to match her tutu. Very coal miners daughter.

R122 is the hissing eldergay.

Somebody drug test her.

I'm telling you that call to start game 4 of the first set changed everything. Sevastova would've maintained the lead if not for that call. Someone should check Cicak's finances and those of people close to her. Methinks she is on Richard's payroll.

When was the last time Eva Asderaki officiated one of Serena's matches? I can't remember. Did Serena get her blacklisted. If so, that's absolute bullshit. She's one of the better umps on tour.

Yes R126, one point completely explains how Sevastova failed to win 1 of the final 13 games. If you're so weak-minded that you let 1 point decide the entire match, maybe you should hang up your racket.

Ooops, *only won 1 of the final 13 games*

R127

Marija screwed up an identical call in Azarenka's 2nd or 3rd round match. Vika hit an ace that Marija overruled. When Vika questioned it, Marija pointed to the court and said, "I can see the mark from here." Vika challenged anyway...THE BALL WAS COMPLETELY THROUGH THE LINE. Cicak is terrible. She should be working nothing higher than Tier 3 tournaments.

Everyone knows that Sevastova is a mess mentally. That's why it was so important to maintain the lead. She would've fought much harder from ahead.

Come on, how many times have we seen WTA players lose a close set and completely go away? It's probably a 1/3 of the matches overall. Sad!

GOAT.

Nole.

What are the keys to this match?

Have we discussed Sascha Bejin’s cocksucker lips yet?

Sweet God, this match is boring as hell.

I'm liking Osaka's chances if she gets to the final (and she should.)

If Keys wants to get adjacent to Venus she’ll have to go via Osaka.

Sloane would have been a much more entertaining and tougher matchup for Serena. It's a shame she was sick on Tuesday and low energy. Serena was smart tonight by coming in a lot and keeping the points short. No need to mess around with Sevastova's crafty long points.

Keys started off well tonight but has gone flat and Osaka has cruised after the first few games

Sascha Baijin is still hot. I bet Patrick Mouratoglou was jealous. He is rumored to have been the reason why Serena's not working with Sascha anymore. He's done wonders with Naomi this year.

Naomi's trainer or hitting partner is hot too. They haven't named him yet though

[quote] Sascha Bajin is having some of the best years of his career as a hitting partner-turned-coach. In October 2017, he was a part of Caroline Wozniacki's team when the Danish won the WTA Finals in Singapore.

The Danish?

Sascha Bajin is actually Serbian, raised in Germany, not Danish.

Sascha is straight? I remember him from the documentary...pings.

He is not hot.

yes Pam! Messy as fuck. She's asking Patrick how it will be for Serena if Osaka does reach the final since Sascha used to be her long-time hitting partner. Patrick mostly deflected lol you can tell he's still jealous

he did say Sascha was living next door to Serena when he was with her.

R142, that article is referring to the Woz as a Danish. I'm not questioning Sascha's nationality. I'm questioning this:

I'll have the cherry Danish, please.

Butter face

What the hell is that on Madison's shoulder? Is it cancer? I think it's cancer.

Who is the hot bearded guy next to Osaka's mother in the stands?

[quote] I'll have the cherry Danish, please.

I love cherry Danish! Pop! But I also like apple tarts.

R150 it's called a keloid.

r125 not going to happen. If it does, they will suppress it, as they do with Olympic athletes.

So is a keloid the bad kind of cancer, r153? Because I definitely want Madison to get a Slam before she dies.

Keys had countless chances throughout the match to break but was too flat. Osaka had more shape on the ball and accepted Keys' donations.

So Serena and Osaka go from meeting in the first round of Miami to the USO final. Not much more of a difference than that.

Now the media will focus on Sascha

So Naomi could potentially be the first Japanese and the first Retard to win a Slam.

lmao Osaka shading Keys. "The whole time I was thinking I just really want to play Serena" that was her answer to how she saved all 13 break points

but then Osaka said Keys is a really great player and this was of course the first time she beat her

wow Naomi is a Serena super fan! "I love you"

Two earth-lesbian womyn in the background during Osaka's interview.

In all seriousness, I hope that the final is a good one. Osaka SHOULD be able to give her a match, unless that goo-goo shit was for real and she goes to pieces against her idol.

Osaka is just a silly little girl, but she's acting like she's 12 rather than 20. Bet during her match with Serena, she will be thinking she wants the 3 million plus pay check!

0/13 on break points.

Serena will kill her

R159 Save that shit until AFTER you drub her in the final, dear! When has anyone ever said something like that about a grand slam final opponent? Ridiculous. She better not hand her the match like her sister would.

win or lose the final, this USO is confirmation that Osaka is the real deal. She didn't just win Indian Wells and then disappear for the rest of the year. Everyone was wondering who would get through the "power section" of Osaka/Sabalenka/Keys and Naomi successfully navigated her way to the final.

The fall swing will be crucial to who gets the last few spots for the YEC tournament. There are a lot of players who could qualify right now. Only Halep is officially locked in and I'd say the last 3-4 spots are available to probably 10 different players.

I'd rather Osaka say that she wants to play Serena rather than act afraid to play her. Naomi seems pretty confident in her game right now.

Random thoughts: 1) Sascha B has a nice thick uncut cock; 2) love Sascha’s skin color; 3) it would be interesting to see if Kei and Naomi become an item; 4) hose photoshop pics of the players can be hilarious— they just had one of Kei and it looked like his teeth were actually normal 5) is the black guy next to Naomi’s mom, Naomi’s dad? 6) Naomi’s backhand reminds me of Andrea Jaegers

[quote] 2) love Sascha’s skin color

What's his skin color? White?

And how exactly do you know number 1, r168? I mean the uncut part seems obvious, but the niceness and thickness definitely need some verificatia.

Serena had a baby?

I like Osaka's way with the press, reminds me very much of Seles way back: smart cookie with giggly airhead Valley Girl shtick and sly humor.

Don't you know, R171?? She's the first woman EVER to have had a baby!!

R173 Do you follow her baby on Instagram?

[quote] smart cookie

She's not a "Retard" like R157 claimed?

[quote] Don't you know, R171?? She's the first woman EVER to have had a baby!!

She is the mother Eve to us all!

I eat babby.

Did anyone read this on tennis.com? I like Becker's take on the Next Gen. They can't think for themselves and aren't good problem solvers.

Keys will never be more than a footnote on the story of this era of women’s tennis. I wish Lindsay Davenport hitched her wagon to a more formidable up-and-comer, because I adore Davenport and Keys is a loser with a face only a donkey’s mother could love.

Osaka: Friends? What friends? I have no friends.

It's a shame about Keys. She has all the tools, and seems likable, but never seems to be able to pull it all together when it counts. Tonight's match was very winnable.

Keys beat Osaka the first three times they plaeyd, but Osaka just seems to be a better version of Keys.

[quote] Tonight's match was very winnable.

Not when she's suffering from cancer.

It's NAHT a TUMAAAH!

It's just scar tissue.

I can't wait to see Naomi destroy Serena

I can’t wait to see Naomi destroyed by Serena

Osaka is gonna be too nervous. it's her first grand slam final and it's Serena. She won't be able to recover and win the match by the time the nerves subside.

Kei has a gf. Osaka is not his type. He was dating a Japanese gymnast.

Serena is Naomi’s mother, I’ve heard.

Gawd OP he's ugly in and out. Ill watch tennis after he's gone and we get get more Thiems and Stans. I suppose a Jim Courier is too much to hope for.

So what are our predictions, girls?

I think DelPo has a fair shot against Rafa. The cool weather should help him. I'd love to see Kei pull the upset over Nole, but I'm afraid to get my hopes up. Kei would have to take his level up a notch. He's capable of it, but it doesn't happen very often.

Interesting take by Becker. Seems plausible since we know the younger generation is the product of over management and hovering coaches and parents.

Sascha used to describe himself as Serena’s best friend. There’s got to be more to their break up story!

R193 it’s indicative of Millenials or the generation after in General. Will take a special freak of nature to break the mold. I still think Tsitsipas has a chance to be the first to breakthrough of the next Gen.

Delpo will win in 4. Djokovic will win in straight sets. Delpo the 2018 USO champion.

That's a really interesting article, r178. The best-of-five-sets format (cited by Navratilova and others) might be a factor, as might be the lack of problem-solving skills (cited by Becker). But then the question becomes, why does the new generation of players like Zverev, Tsitsipas, etc. have problems with five sets when previous generation didn't, and why don't they have the problem-solving skills that previous generations had?

R196 Team Delpo!

R196, DelPo team

[quote] we get get more Thiems and Stans.

What do you like about their looks?

What treatment is Keys undergoing and what’s her prognosis?

Didn't you see the way she hustled off the court after her loss, r201? That chemo certainly wasn't going to take itself! Hopefully her brave fight will get at least a passing mention tomorrow night.

[quote] Hopefully her brave fight will get at least a passing mention tomorrow night.

Not with all the self serving and frankly disgusting ESPN coverage of Serena and her baby. Those vignettes are gag inducing.

Preach R203

[quote]Not with all the self serving and frankly disgusting ESPN coverage of Serena and her baby.

Has Serena had a baby?!?!

Do you think Matt Damon should help those suffering from cancer, or should his efforts be limited to clean water and the occasional behind-the-scenes support during tragic events?

Serena had a baby, and they don't celebrate its birthday on account of the whole Jehova thing.

I doubt that bankrupt cokehead Becker is the best arbiter of NextGen remedies.

but why go after #NextGen and not bash the #LostGen? #NextGen has not peaked yet physically or mentally. Am I disappointed they haven't gotten a slam yet? Yes but It's Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori, Goffin and Thiem who deserve all the criticism. They should be at their peaks now but struggle to defeat the big 3/4/5.

BTW for the poster above who mentioned millennials...Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka are all millennials. Only Federer is generation x.

Federer was born in 1981 he's an early Millennial.

“NextGen” and “NextGen”! What is “NextGen”?

R209, I'm not sure I'd put Goffin in that group because I never felt he had the weapons to win a slam. As for Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori, and Thiem, well....

Raonic is, and I say that as a fellow Canadian, not in the same category as Thiem, Nishikori, or even Dimitrov. Take away his serve and there's very little to him.

I think Naomi will give Serena a good match but its all in the latter's hand. Really amazing she's in her 2 GS finals after just having a BABY! hehehe.

And Nole of course will take the men's barring...idk.

r208 He is one of the greatest tennis players of all time, was a big personality, and has been a very active tennis commentator and impresario, business man, (bankruptcies happen to lots of successful businessmen), star in Germany, tennis personality, and successful coach with the World Number One Novak Djokovic, (taken when he was in his prime and Number One already, when you can just lose as a new coach) and father of three, he knows what he's talking about and players listen to him, he has also been an influence to many of them. He ruined his health playing, partially because of his courageous, offensive and aggressive playing, but he sure knows what he's talking about, has been very successful and people listen to him.

R16: Serena is Muguruza's idol too and she had no problem defeating her everytime she had an opportunity. Nothing better to show respect to your idol than kicking her ass

Thanks, Boris at R215.

Mugurutha

R197: That's not exactly an accurate question. First of all, most next gen players have an age that Novak and Roger didn't won a GS. Nadal is a different case because he was very dominant on clay from the begginning but he took quite some time on reach the final rounds of the other GS. And we are talking about three of the best of all time.

Right now Zverev is the only next gen player who is a top player. And yes, he has a problem, because he is not reaching (not remotely) the rounds he should be. And he is a top contender in every other tournamnent.

People older than Zverev, like the russians, in my opinion have the potential to be top players but i doubt they'll be dominant players. Chung had a very tough year with injuries.

The younger ones are a mystery, they are showing promise (Nadal seems to think that Shapo has a brilliant future ahead him) but they need time.

We can say that people like Dimitrov won't reach his true potential, but i think Thiem will win GS, he is more a late bloomer.

Please, please, please anyone but Djokovic.. I can't take another tits out!

Del Potro has had 2 full days to rest and it'll be much cooler so he really has no excuse not to at least give Nadal a tough match.

R219, do you think Djokovic used to be a clay court specialist?

I take your point, r219, but Djokovic had already at least made it to a quarterfinal and two semis of a GS when he was 20, and Federer had made it to two quarterfinals of a GS when he was 19. But, as you say, Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal are among the all-time greats so it's unfair to compare them to any new generation. Still, I think it's quite notable that players like Zverev , Tsitsipas, etc. can't seem to break through on the big stage.

R222: No, even he was the only player able to dominate Nadal on the clay season (even failing at Roland Garros) he is not (and not was) better on clay than he was on hard courts. For a lot of players early clay results are better than in other surfaces because the big servers are way more vulnerable on clay

R223: You are right, it's unfair compare young players with easily the best generation in tennis ever (even Murray and Wawrinka have more GS than the dominant players of other eras). And it's true that young players seem unable to translate the great results they have on atp tournaments (even the bigger ones) into GS success (or at least reaching the last rounds). But i think only Zverev could be held responsible for that. He is a top player and definitevely he should be doing better. And it can become a burden if he doesn't solve it in a near future (that interview he gave makes me think he needs to find a balance between his tennis career and his live or this won't be solved soon). The others are simply too young or starting to make themselves a name.

Sometimes having an amazing result at a GS could be even negative if it puts too much pressure on someone who is not ready

Vamos Juan Martin!

Vamos Del Potro Peludo y Viejo!!!!

Grigor was too busy waxing his whole body to contend for anything.

DelPo team

Let's go Delpo and Nishikori. Love an underdog!!!

Well, what do you expect, r227, now that Tursunov is no longer on the tour to help him?

Wow, Juan Martin lost his advantage really fast. In my opinion his chances will be a way higher if he is able to win the first set

I think Stan is good example for some of these guys. I never thought he would win one major much less three. He really came into his own in late 20s. The same could for one of these “lost” generation.

Oh god... the Little Butch Princess Nadal has already asked for the trainer. What could ever be wrong with her now (that a good rodgering wouldn’t fix)???

Rafael Nadal is in dire need of attention right now.

Stan is a terrific example, r232, because he didn't even reach his first GS quarterfinal until he was 25 years old. So you would never have expected that he'd turn into a multiple-GS winner.

R235: And he was a choker, he had a tendency to underperform on the big matches. But suddenly he had a chance and he grabbed it

And Delpo fails to close the set. I know Nadal is very good but most of his rivals choke constantly when they have to deliver

Delpo tight. 2 set points gone. Nadal breaks back.

fuck- nadal has luck

Don't make fun of Rafa

Typical. I agree with R237 that his rivals fail to deliver when chances are there. As big a serve as Delpo has, no excuse not to take the set. We'll see if he can even hold to get in a tiebreak.

Is Rafa's fake girlfriend in attendance?

Oh how I hate Nadal’s bullying tennis.

R242, Xisha or Maria?

Great, that's all that Delpo needed: an energized Rafa with growing confidence.

Agreed with R238: Delpo has not been able to shake off the nervousness.

How is he a bully? Explain?

oh please, Boris is a basket case. He let his spainish mansion rot. owes so many people money and now his wife is divorcing him, meaning more money he's gotta pay out lol.

The netcord is Spanish

Delpo is only 1-4 in slam semifinals.

Crowd on Delpo's side.

yes, today is winter-like compared to past 10 days. It might even rain later!

FUCK!

DelPo team!

I can't believe Delpo blew two breaks and still won the tiebreak. But I like it!

The Gentle Giant takes the first set 7/6 (7/3)

I honestly didn't think Delpo was going to regroup in time to pull off that 1st set tiebreaker.

Delpo almost choked away the first set. I was ready to go to bed if he didn't win the first one.

Nadal very defensive but still too many errors. He should be very glad the court is so slow.

Now he needs to stay in the second set. Generally Rafa is able to gain an early lead and recover. I don't think Rafa will be able to win (after such tough previous matches) if he lost the second set

R259 but then the stats say Nadal hit more winners and Delpo more errors. Idk

Agree, R260, Delpo needs to stay focused and not let Nadal get out to an early 2nd set lead.

Why did they turn off the serve clock?

R263, because they want Serena to win. She has a baby you know.

Neither played his best in that opening set. Del Potro blew 2 separate break leads. The 2 set points he botched could have sent him into a funk but fortunately he got it together at the end of the set and Nadal donated some points in the tiebreak.

BTW has anyone ever seen Nadal THROW a precious bottle like he did today after getting broken at 4-4? That was shocking to me

and lol at the changeover int he tiebreak Del Potro was walking by when Nadal was still lining up the bottles

ESPN needs to show longer camera shots of those half-dozen young Argentinian hotties cheering for Delpo.

if there's anyone I'd love to permanently ducktape his mouth shut, it's fucking Chris Fowler. He never shuts up and thinks he knows everything. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!

That 108 mph forehand Del Potro hit in the middle of the first set was insane, even crazier that he still lost the point and Nadal was able to return that shot.

I missed the bottle throw, r265, but Nadal does seem to be even more OCD than usual, and that's saying A LOT.

Argh, two break chances missed! But Nadal played some good points to stave them off. Bastard.

What’s the difference between an ace and an unreturnable winner?

he threw it and then pointed for the ballkid to give it back to him.

R271 ace imeans the opponent didn't even make contact with the return. Service winner is the opponent touched the ball but the serve still flew by him/her. So if you get a hit on it it's not a service winner.

I can't stand delpo's cheer squad. stfu so we can watch with no delays.

rafa is usually very nice to the ball kids. Murray is the grumpy one.

o le ole oleo ole ole ole o le o le ole !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R273, but for a groundstroke rally, a winner is when the player couldn't even get a racket on the ball, right?

omg, rafa is hurt!

R277 yes

rafa looks like a monkey

so just to be clear, if you are returning serve and you hit in the net or out, that's an error. It's only a service winner if you touch the ball but it keeps going past you. An ace means you didn't even make contact with the ball

omg, alec baldwin is a fucking idiot. He said the best thing for fans is you can be done 6-0, 6-0. 6-0 and come back to win the match?!

👍🏽, r281.

BTW, did you know Serena has had a baby?

And while we're on the subject, when they report the winners and unforced errors for a match, the winners don't include aces or service winners, right?

You can just tell that something's off with Nadal today. Normally, I'd still give him an edge the longer the match goes, but I'm not so sure about this match, given the signs.

So what’s an “unreturnable winner”?

A lot of his balls are landing around the service line, which is very unusual.

Diego looks good in yellow

oh my, feel so bad for Rafa! He's in pain.

serve box, damn the autocorrect.

Damn, wouldn't you be pissed off if you spent thousands for this match and rafa retires due to injury?

Delpo breaks, then he hits two shitty errors. Down 0-30.

I've not heard the term "unreturnable winner," r286. By definition, I should think that all winners are unreturnable.

what is rafa doing with his racket?

maybe he didn't do his one of his OCD shit today...so he's not 100% focused.

Rafa is gonna lose. I'm so sad.

Del Potro makes me moist.

Nadal will retire if he loses this set.

hahahah rafa loses so immediately he is in pain....

I said this on an earlier thread, but I really like Delpo's blue shorts. They nicely show off the curves of his ass, which I had never noticed before.

Diego?

That epic match with Thiem fucked his knee up.

Did Rafa just say he is going to withdraw after this set?

yes

yes. i heard it too.

potro is too good for him tonight so he withdraws

R293, “unreturnable winner” is, strictly speaking, nothing other than a tautology. Serves can be aces or winners (receiver makes no contact with the ball or nicks it as it goes past, respectively). Winners are, by definition, always “clean”, i.e. the opponent cannot make contact with the ball with their racquet. Errors, though, can be termed “unforced” or “forced”—“unforced” if the mistake comes off a relatively simple shot; forced, e.g., if the opponent’s shot is so good that anything other than an error would be seen as miraculous. These latter two are very often subjective calls—not everyone recording stats will necessarily have the same number of forced and unforced errors for the same match.

Nadal is "extremely injured." (i.e., he's losing).

Hopefully Delpo can beat Djokovic in the final.

this is ridicolous, rafal says: l i am injured thats why you re winning

Nadal’s being a bit of a cunt now. If he can’t be competitive he should just shake hands and get off the court.

HE DID IT!

Well, at least Delpo will be well rested for the men's final on Sunday.

Nadal retires. Now he can spend more time with Xisca.

Oops—spoke too soon. He has retired...

Well, now i am team delpo. I don't want novak to win.

Potro deserved it . He was fantastic

Agreed, r316.

DelPo team!

Thers one good side of it, novak - nishikori will start earlier

Nole.

Too bad he beat Thiem in the QF.

Nishi.

Will the jinx pic at OP work against Djokovic?

Healthy Nadal is still undefeated.

yeah, sure, with Thiem he almost lost

Hilarious that people consider Nadal the greatest when he pulls shit like this.

Yes, r324, YES!

He is injured you sick fucks. He didn't want to retire.

how r328. Got no sympathy, his style of play is prone to injury

why the fuck did the bitch interrupt Brad Gilbert while he was talking? so fucking rude!!!

He lost his conditioning not an injury. Said it was fine after match when he was winning. You don't use it as an excuse now, not to the guy always injured.

That is his injury. The problem can show up even when you play just a few hours, you never know. That Thiem match affected it for sure.

I'm rooting for Kei. He's the underdog.

Even Djokovic's body language, dismissive tone, and smirkiness during his interview makes me want to punch him in the face.

Are any of you on Misery team?

Uh guys, I don't think it's an easy decision to retire from the richest tournament ever -

Winner: $3,800,000

Runner-Up: $1,850,000

Semifinalist: $925,000

Quarterfinalist: $475,000

Kei team

And Nadal has a huge entourage - salaries, hotel rooms, fine dining etc all on his tab... he needs to go deep in every tournament no doubt.

At least the magenta shorts are a good distraction.

Someone please knock Mama out.

So two lousy semi-finals today. Poor Kei.

Nadal knew Del Potro was going to beat him so he gave up.

Nole.

Will you root for DelPo or Novak on Sunday?

[quote]Nadal knew Del Potro was going to beat him so he gave up.

Yes, that's true. Continue playing to worsen an injury and lose out on future earnings, or call it a day now, because playing injured, he knows won't be able to win today.

It's a business.

Delpo for Sunday! I hope Djokovic gets all moody because the crowd is behind Delpo.

R346, if he does a heartfelt boobs out gesture today will you support him on Sunday?

R346 if that really happens, it will only help Nole to win.

I can't stand Nadal, but I don't believe for a minute that he retired on purpose. He is a beast and always tries. If it is his knee, which it appeared to be, there's no way you can really move.

How is Kei doing? Any chance we could get a Kei-Delpo final?

Kei is playing extremely well; his speed is amazing. He’s still down a set and a break, though.

Kei is probably playing the best tennis he could play and is still trailing Djokovic. He's still got a shot at coming back in the second set, though.

Delpokei

Del-poke-i

Pam Shriver is starting to look like Madame.

Chevy Chase looked like a crazy old person when he was interviewed at his seat.

what's happening? where is novak?

Novak is serving in the second game of the third set.

Perfect, R354.

The Mrs. Novak in traditional dress tonight.

Nishikori is playing very good tennis but it doesn't seem like it'll be enough to beat Djokovic.

I like Novak. I don't know of many other players who so desperately want the love of the crowd as he. Martina could be that way as well.

I cannot believe they showed that interview with stupid Chevy Chase while the match was going on! WTF???

Someone please put Kei out of his misery. He's dreadful.

Chase seemed kind of surprised himself, R362.

Chevy seemed unusually polite and engaging with Pam; that was unexpected.

Can DelPo pull off another US Open victory? I hope so.

Nishikori isn't playing badly but this is always such a bad match-up for him. Djokovic does everything just a bit better, except Kei might be just a tad (if that) faster on the court.

I simply cannot watch the on-court interview with Djokovic. His manner is just is so off-putting.

Kei played very well in the second set. Now the wheels have come off.

Nole

Oh God, he's going to win.

I hope Delpo can find a way to win this.

The good news is that both Djokovic and Del Potro should be well rested for the final on Sunday. Here's to a compelling, competitive match!

We haven't had a good final on the men's side since maybe Nadal/Federer Australian Open '17 or Nole/Stan US Open '16. Wimbledon and the French have been boring for years. Hopefully Sunday is interesting.

Here's to Djokovic getting handed his ass...

I'm just glad Isner isn't in the final.

Did “Nole” do his boobs out gesture?

R335 Absolutely. One of my favs.

R340 I think the jogging (as if!) commercial with that fugly necklace is in contention.

[quote] Absolutely. One of my favs.

Me too.

R100 that's still such a classic match. Amazing we were watching the future of tennis and then both careers went to such an unfortunate turn. One through no fault oh her own and the other a victim of herself. It's an interesting footnote of that era.

I’m on DelPo team.

DelPo all the way. He needs to win and tennis needs him to win. It is another great comeback story.

have we already discussed Kiki winning the double title?

[quote]I like Novak. I don't know of many other players who so desperately want the love of the crowd as he. Martina could be that way as well.

Martina is a good comparison. Ultimately the crowds came to support her once she started losing regularly to Steffi, and became "the old player nearing retirement". Azarenka also a good comparison.

For men, Lendl, to a lesser degree. He wanted to be loved, but didn't seem to try as hard as Djokovic to earn it.

The funny thing is, there was some love for Djokovic when he first appeared on the scene, and would do impressions of the other players' service motions, like McEnroe, Sharapova, etc. But once he started competing and pushing Federer and Nadal, forget it. Federer fans hated him, and Nadal fans hated him, and that probably accounts for 80-90% of tennis fans right there. He also had some problems with retirements, which the fans didn't like.

I've mentioned here before, I was pretty neutral on him until 2011, when he started dominating. I just loved the fact that there was a player who refused to let the ATP become the Roger and Rafa show. That someone took themselves seriously enough to improve his fitness, improve some technical flaws (like his serve), improve his mental approach to the game. If that had been, say, Berdych, instead of Djokovic, I would have supported him too. In my opinion, that's what has been missing from the game the last few years, no one is pushing the top players.

I shudder to think if the last eight years had continued to be the Roger-Rafa show. Nothing against those two players personally, I don't dislike either guy. But their fans can be incredibly rude (cheering for opponents double faults, and such). And the absolute tongue-bath both receive from the tennis media is nauseating. Yeah, Djokovic can be cringe-worthy trying to score crowd support. But I'll always love him for forcing the fans and media to acknowledge there are players besides Rafa and Roger, and pushing the commentators to actually do their job instead of fanboy-ing in the commentary box.

I never liked Djokovic, never will.

Poor Kei. I'm available if he needs some consolation.

There wasn’t a minute of that match where it felt like Kei had any chance. He’s a level below the top guys.

I completely agree with r385 with respect to Djokovic. I give Novak tons of credit for not settling for table scraps while all the other players seemed content to let Federer and Nadal rule the ATP. Novak really committed himself 100% to becoming the absolute best tennis player he could become in order to challenge those two. And, guess what, Djokovic now has a winning record against both Federer (24-22) and Nadal (27-25). So, yeah, I have the utmost respect for Djokovic the athlete. As for Djokovic the person, yeah, I find his ingratiating behavior annoying, but neither do I like Federer's prissiness or Nadal's OCD ways.

R338: Oh come on, let's be serious, Nadal was inviting to holidays every year to a big group of friends, and that was when he was way younger. He has no money problems to think if he should retire or not. He was clearly injured and he was going to lose anyway, he did the right thing.

Delpo has the game to defeat anyone, and i wish he could pull a surprise like he did in his final against Federer, but Novak is the favourite

r385:

[quote]I shudder to think if the last eight years had continued to be the Roger-Rafa show. Nothing against those two players personally, I don't dislike either guy. But their fans can be incredibly rude (cheering for opponents double faults, and such).

I love Djokovic's tennis when he's on (and I'm not a fan of Nadal's style), but I've been to so many Djokovic matches (including a couple versus Nadal) where I've been driven to distraction by Djokovic's fans (usually Serbs living and working in the country hosting the tournament) who not only incessantly chant "No-le! No-le! No-le!" between sets, between games, between points, and, in the tighter end of a set, as the opponent is about to serve, but also don't disdain an applause or two after his opponent's first-serve fault and a resounding applause after a double fault. I can't say that what you're referring to is limited to Nadal and/or Federer fans—it's common among all fans of any player when they become fanaticised and when the chair umpire lets them get away with it.

The last person I would expect to fake retire is Nadal. He loves the fight and is a great sportsman. Get over it, he was injured. I'm team DelPo all the way.

[quote]Someone please knock Mama out.

Who's Mama?

[quote] Who's Mama?

I understand someone had a baby.

I know that it's rumored, r394, but I refuse to believe until I see actual footage of said baby. EVERYBODY knows that it's simply impossible to play tennis and have a child at the same time. You'd have to be some sort of mutant superhero or something.

r395, been there; done that.

Nadal wants delpo to win, did him a favor by retiring...now he is well rested for the final.

Nadal allegedly has chronic knee problems for several years, no wonder with his movement and style of play and mileage, his body is over for quite a while, somehow he still succeeds, but his body seems ruined.

[quote]been there; done that.

#MeToo

Lol R399

Serena not only had a baby, she had a C-SECTION! And has had to deal with POST-PARTEM DEPRESSION! And did you know she almost DIED IN CHILDBIRTH?!?! And her one-year-old daughter is already WALKING and TALKING, and has reached the FINALS of the US OPEN JUNIORS event at age 1. And Serena almost DIED YESTERDAY when she crossed the street in Manhattan, and an Uber Driver drove past that very spot NOT EVEN 20 SECONDS LATER. And now there's breaking news that Serena woke up this morning with BOTH a headache and a hangnail, so she's LUCKY if she can even TAKE THE COURT this afternoon.

Tins and Dorinda join Kasey from Below Deck Med in Yellow Haired Girls..

Delpo!

When will a dingo eat that baby?

Aussie Open is in January, r404.

Jack Suck & Mike Bryan won the men's doubles title (they won Wimbledon as well)

I used to hide my jack socks under the bed as a kid.

That may be true R391, but the chances of actually encountering Djokovic fans at a match are a LOT less likely than encountering obnoxious Fed or Nadal fans. At least in my experience.

Well, if you go to the Fed and Nadal matches you’ll get Fed and Nadal brats, r408. If you go to Djokovic matches, you’ll get his brats. Sheesh!!

R401? MARRY ME!!!! 😂

If Serena wins (or even if she loses), do you think they’ll mention that she’s had a baby?

I love you, R399.

R409: That's not exactly true. Federer never plays with the crowd against him, he even avoided Davis Cup for years, and when he wanted to win it he did it because Wawrinka was there to save the day.

Rafa had the french crowd against him some times, specially when he played against french players, but that's nothing new for spanish players.

For some reason Djokovic is not loved that way. He was loved when he started, he was seen like funny player but then he rose his level and started to beat Fed and Rafa and things changed.

Yes he had an annoying serbian fans who are not exactly the most respectful ones, but they are a minority

Oh boohoo, r412. Honestly, let it go. If you really insist, we’ll agree with you that Nadal’s and Federer’s fans are the most obnoxious in the world, and that Djokovic’s fans are the tennis equivalent of concerto attendees from Belle Époque Vienna..

But I’m telling you, that ain’t true. I’ve been there; I’ve heard them.

But r412 has a point in that I can't remember a single match when the crowd was against Federer. I'm trying to remember how the crowd was in 2001 when Federer (the newcomer) beat Sampras (the veteran) at Wimbledon. Was the crowd more for Sampras or Federer? Anybody remember?

R413: I know my english is bad, but not as bad as your reading comprehension. The serbian crowd is annoying and disrespectful but they are a small bunch in most tournaments.

We get a prime example in this US Open of how people react to Roger, in any other circumstance a crowd would cheer for the underdog, but not for Millman, not against Roger. And it's lucky that Roger is a polite player, other would use that against his rivals (i know that generally only happens on Davis Cup).

R414 I doubt people cheered for Sampras in that match. Sampras was respected as a great player but he was not a crowd pleaser. People were more into Agassi. I think in the last 25 years, Roger is probably the player with more devoted fans. It's understable, when he is on his tennis is a master piece. Nadal on the other hand appeal to people who see the sport as a fight, and he fights till the last point

By the way Lopatetskaya defeated Cory Gauff (again) on the junior girls qtr. People say it was a great match between two great young players (Dasha is 15, Cory 14)

Hopefully both toned down the drama that it was their Les petits as semifinal. Dasha was crying all the time (even when she was winning)

How did Nishikori manage to play through all those Djokovic fans last night?

Kei is adorable.

I was stabbed.

Sampras was very inconsistent toward the end of his career, getting bounced in the first or second round of the French and Wimbledon.

R420: The truth is Federer was very inconsistent back then too. He was able to get great victories against top players (i remember him destroying Marat Safin on clay) but he was unable to keep that level for long time. His victory against Sampras was considered a big surprise back then, maybe because at that moment Federer just looked like a lot of other talented players that ended underachieving due to their mentality. Fortunately for Roger he was able to rise his level soon

Don't tell Rena's Army but Kim C. popped out a giant baby and won the US Open in her first slam back. She only played two tournaments prior to the US Open and didn't need any special seeding.

R422 = Fake News

R422 Was she breast feeding at the time? I think not!

Plus Kim C. won the US Open when the WTA tour wasn't a complete mess - a much better crop of players back then.

Andy Roddick finally received his Hall of Fame ring last night

Clijsters didn't have blood clots!!!

She had white privilege on her side!

I love how much the press and media are talking about Serena’s baby. For twenty plus years, she and her sister have had to shovel through all sorts of shit about how Venus and Serena were actually men. “They’re the Williams brothers.” Anything and everything said to diminish and demean them.

So now that Serena has gotten pregnant and given birth, we get to marvel at every fucking detail of it. It’s making those same haters miserable but guess what? They’ve always been miserable. Nothing has changed.

R429 SHE NEARLY DIED

[QUOTE] SHE NEARLY DIED

Everyone...let's have drinking game: every time ESPN mention this, have shot of Stoli!

Does any other GS go through this patriotic, pandering BS?

Is forgotten about Deborah Cox.

I’d forgotten about Deborah Cox.

I had a baby.

BUT THE BLOOD CLOTS!!!!

Do we have a shot when they mention she was pregnant?

Maybe they're all just stunned (like the rest of us) that a baby actually came out of her, so they mention it incessantly to remind themselves that it really happened.

Does Serena have her baby in her tote bag?

A C-section. GOOD LORD, A C-SECTION. ITS MAJOR SURGERY!

R439

I'm surprised she didn't have the baby carrying her bags for her.

I don't think Osaka is intimidated by Serena but I wouldn't be surprised if feels intimidated by the occasion. I hope not, though.

Well, I have Sjögren's Syndrome...and hot flashes!

Osaka is too oblivious and stupid to be intimidated by anything.

Who is this Osaka person you mention?

Serena's baby is actually one of the linesman.

Serena's gut is pretty intimidating, though.

Shhhh...not now, Venus. I'm busy.

terri schiavo had more brain power than Naomi.

What's Sascha's skin color?

Some half Jap, r446. I call her the The Japper.

Naomi's bitch face >>> Serena's

R451 Elephant's Breath

R451 pumpkin spice

Are we sure she had the baby already? She looks 7 or 8 months pregnant.

Is she wearing Queen Victoria’s mourning frock?

Osaka looks so unimpressed in the pic at R453. But then again I think she always looks like that.

Was there a tournament being played this week?

R459, no. It was an off week.

Why all the Naomi hate?

Brooklyn looks different in that pic, R426.

Serena has horrible footwork.

She's never had a baby, R461.

What Naomi hate?

Well there’s a turnup for the cards!

Osaka has the first break...

Serena is so old and slow.

Why is Chris Fowler here? I thought this was some kind of sport ball weekend. Shouldn't be somewhere else talking to the deplorables?

Naomi is fantastic, so get over it

Team Naomi!!

R385 and R389, I'm with both of you. Mad respect for what Djokovic did starting in 2011. He decided he no longer wanted to be the bridesmaid to Nadal and Federer. I think it started at the 2010 US Open. Djokovic didn't play well in that final against Nadal and it motivated him to improve. Then he had that remarkable year in 2011. In 2012 it was a bit odd, as he started the year with a tough 5 set victory over Nadal at the Aussie Open. Then he lost to Nadal in the final of the French, to Federer in the semis of Wimbledon, and to Murray in the final of the US Open. I always thought in 2012 he was feeling the pressure of to defend that stellar 2011 season.

In 2013 he won the Aussie Open once again, beating Murray in the final. Then he lost that heartbreaker to Nadal in the semis of the French 9-7 in the 5th. He really should have won that match and he knew it, and I think it affected the rest of his year. He got to the Wimbledon final but lost to Murray, then finished the year with a disappointing effort against Nadal in the US Open final.

In 2014, he lost to a red-hot Stan Wawrinka in the quarters of the Aussie Open, to Nadal yet again at the French, which was becoming a mental block for him, but he beat Federer in 5 sets for the Wimbledon title, then lost to Nishikori at the semis of the US Open. In 2015 he reasserted his dominance, taking the Aussie, Wimbledon, and US Open titles. His big disappointment that year was taking Nadal out of the French quarters but losing yet again to a red-hot Wawrinka in the French final.

In 2016, he continued to dominate in the first half, taking the Aussie Open title yet again, then finally taking the French title over Murray, who was becoming his main rival on the tour. He lost to Querry in the 3rd round of Wimbledon, but got back to the US Open final where a once-again red-hot Wawrinka was waiting for him and took him down. Amazing how over the years Stan just pops up playing unbelievable tennis to take the odd Slam. Then we know about his injury woes until the 2018 Wimbledon title.

Between 2011 and mid-2016, he won 11 Slams. Not as good as Federer's 14 Slam run from 2004 to 2009, but still a remarkable achievement.

No hate for Osaka here. She’s been taken to task for giggling in her interviews, but I think we’re almost all of us rooting for her. At least a bit of exciting new blood on the WTA, after so many years of dire, boring uncompelling tennis pablum.

Giant steps, muscling the ball, desperate for aces.... Serena is pressed lol. I hope Osaka can keep this up.

Osaka team

Mama needs a dolly.

Serena was up all last night breastfeeding her BABY!

Will we start referring to Serena as Granny II here?

She had a [italic]BABY[/italic], r476?.

Serena would be winning this match if she didn't have to breastfeed her BABY on the changeovers. It's clearly not fair.

Whi is the super built black guy beside Sascha in Naomi's box?

Maybe the baby should come out to serve for her.

Yes R478. she did. And she nearly died! I wouldn't have known except for the Guardian's pre-match write-up:

It was an ominous statement of intent by the American, who is seven months into her comeback after enduring life-threatening complications when giving birth to her first child a year ago

Who is the ....

Does Serena's husband get uncomfortable sitting near her ex-boyfriend/coach in the player's box?

Serena's serve is dreadful

Only because he’d like a bit of the Mouratoglou dick himself, r484—if he hasn’t already had it.

O.S.A.K.A.!!!!

There's enough to go around, R486.

Osaka's basically out-Serena-ing Serena.

Does Naomi not know that Serena is a mother!

Sascha is loving this so far. Like most of us. I love seeing Serena so desperate and pressed.

I've often thought it must be strange for Serena and Patrick to still work with each other, considering their past.

Didn't their relationship break up his marriage?

6-2! And Patrick M. is looking so, so handsome.

Osaka generates such easy but controlled power.

If you're truly loved, Serena, the commentators will start coming up with some good excuses for you.

Osaka hit the ball hard, but she is not like the brainless ballbashers in teh wta tour, she selects her shots. If she gets consistency she'll be a threat to anyone and she could do well at any surface

Venus looking like "how did I lose to this slow, old woman."

I just assume they're still having sex, r492.

Venus, you need to let go of the ruse that you even try to beat your sister. The rest of us certainly have.

[QUOTE] Didn't their relationship break up his marriage?

Yes, R492, and it traumatized his children.

As long as Patrick keeps paying Serena, he can continue to sit in her box.

Roid rage incoming!

Serena should just yell at Osaka that she's going to take the fucking ball and shove it down her fucking throat.

Serena knows she’s not going to win this. It’s hard to watch when great athletes get old.

Remember, she's not the one!

Serena is getting coaching from the stands. Even Chris Evert said so.

Serena plays bully tennis; glad Osaka isn’t cowed.

Ha. Patrick caught on camera making signals to Serena.

wow sascha already has grey hair!

Who is the hot bearded guy in the black Yonex t-shirt sitting next to Osaka's mother?

“Code violation. Coaching. Mrs Serena Williams.” In high dudgeon, Mrs Serena Williams moves to the chair umpire. “I don’t cheat. Just so you know?” Cut to slow-mo of Mouratoglou gesticulating either that he wanted to take her from behind or that she has to start moving in to the net.

Mouratoglou gives Serena a sign to go into the net. The umpire issues a warning. Fowler: Was he right to warn her? Mary Joe: "There wasn't much there."

Such brave commentary!

Yeah R506 first they said the warning from the umpire was out of line them she said she's following her coach by coming to the net. Ugh...they have been kissing Serena's ass for the last 2 weeks. Go Naomi!!

Anyone else be happy if Serena loses her cool ala Clijsters or Stosur matches today? She certainly seems on edge - would be interesting given this whole PR push behind her of late and her motherhood.

Marry me r502

Then she blatantly lied about it and tried to intimidate (per usual) the umpire, r506. Pathetic.

Serena playing better. The umpire pissed her off. Crowd behind her.

But THE BABY, r513 (I’ve heard there’s a baby)!!! How will she feed it once it’s weened if she doesn’t win another three zillion dollars?!?!

THat's it Naomi! make her run!!!

Also say what you want about Chris evert but that bitch don’t give AF!!! They showed the changeover exchange between Serena and the umpire and Chrissie still calls out her colleague Patrick and says it was coaching. HOT!!

R510 the father.

Gotta hand it to Naomi, she's handling the pressure well. for a 10 year old kid!

A broken clock is right twice a day.

Yeah, then Chrissie backpedals and says almost every coach does it, and the umpires rarely call it. Pussy,

So far Osaka is not getting intimidated by Serena's usual antics

Osaka is a "Chris Evert Academy" graduate/alumna. So Chrissie, I'm sure, is rooting for Naomi.

LOL R518. As soon as I hit send I figured I would be duly chastised for NOT THINKING OF THE BABY!!!

R519 I am yelling the same thing to my TV

Of course she has to backpedal. Otherwise, ESPN will cut her off.

It's too bad Serena's outfit isn't a little more revealing in front so her tig ol' bitties would hang out.

Mamma breaks!

That bearded guy in the back looks too young to be her dad.

Is Serena lactating? She just had a baby you know

2 double faults in a row!

Serena is getting tired! She broke her racket!

And Osaka breaks back

She can't concentrate, she's thinking about her BAY-BEEE!!

The longer this goes...the advantage goes to the young kid.

Is Sascha mixed race?

Ow, fuck!

HULK SMASH!

Point Penalty, Mrs. Williams.

DRAMA

Ooooooh Serena is having a MELTDOWN!!!

Again?

uh oh...She is losing her composure

[quote] "I have a daughter"

I had no idea.

"I have a daughter!!!!!!!!"

Did Sascha just point the umpire's attention to Serena smashing her racket, LOL?

must she bring up her kid every chance she gets? I'm so sick of her!!!!

she is such a sore loser!!!

Sascha is sexy, and Patrick is a DILF.

No poetic justice for Serena as she loses the next point.

Serena needs to be foot faulted now.

#firePatrick

Serena SAIS that she hasnt got coaching and she doenst cheat because she has a DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote]You owe me an apology!

Jehovah, shut up woman!

FOOT FAULT!!

It's not cheating if everybody does it! And I have a daughter!!

Where's Shino when you need her?

BRAVA!!!!!!

GO NAOMI!!!

Getting lost in all this drama is that Serena's playing like shit.

Serena crucified at the net and Osaka gets the break.

I'm really impressed by Naomi, she hasn't been rattled by Serena.

Serena is losing her shit and makes herself look bad. Using her daughter as every excuse ffs.

And another break.

With Serena you never know, she can always come back but i still remember how she lose against Sam Stosur here (and Sam is known for her epic chokes)

I can't believe she played the "I have a daughter!!!!" card.

I love how Naomi keeps doing the little fist pumps to psyche herself up.

Is Carlos Ramos a racist?

I'm so happy this umpire is not having Serena! She abused him verbally! He's right!

WHOA! Game penalty!

This is ugly. I'm turning it off.

GAME PENALTY FOR SERENA

It's like déjà vu.

I can't watch this at the moment so am following here and online. She didn't really say she had a daughter in all this coaching and racket carry-one did she?

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She can't be allowed to say what the fuck she wants. She needs to apologize to him! She keeps saying this is not fair! lots of men do this and nothing happens.

Wow. this is some ugly Drama. Serena should have let it go and played on. Instead she's drawn it out to this ridiculous level.

They should show Patrick giving the hand signals on the Jumbotron

SUCH. A. CHEAT.

She's too stupid, she keeps thinking she can say what the fuck she wants and gets away with it.

Now I REALLY HOPE Naomi wins

Now, she's pulling the woman card. It has nothing to do with being a woman, all to do for pulling this same shit twice in the US Open final.

PLAYING THE WOMAN CARD!

Fuck Serena; she's not winning so she's having a fit. GO NAOMI.

This is shitty - she's trying to disrupt Osaka.

I'm a woman.

Why does this always happen to MEEEEEE!!!!!

This is messed up. this taints the win, even if Naomi wins.

I feel bad for Naomi. This isn't her drama, but she's stuck in the middle of it.

Why is anyone cheering for her?

This is so fucking unfair to Osaka

Now I’m rooting for Serena.

Serena being Serena

That's not fair!

she's crying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The are her face. Damn her eyebrows are so fug!!!!!!!!!!

Osaka to serve for the championship.

THROW HER OFF THE COURT! GAME OVER! No other player would fell so entitled as to ream everyone out.

Serena will shut her mouth once she sees all the gifs of Patrick so obviously coaching her.

she is still crying. ffs!!!!

What was the second penalty?

TEARS. TYPICAL.

smashing racket

yeah!!!! Naomi!!!!

How much do you think they'll fine Serena for this display?

And Osaka is the new US Open champion. I really like her game and i think this is the first of many GS for her

It's all the coach's fault, if he didn't coach her, this wouldn't have happened!

Keep waking Serena, and hand in your resignation at the front desk.

She is 3.4 million dollars richer!!!

Hope Serena doesn't shit all over the trophy presentation. Regardless of the drama, Serena was losing this match.

This is why Serena is so hated. Roid rage mixed with borderline personality disorder. I'm sick of her and so glad she lost.

Her dad is there but not in the box. Her mommy is hugging her

Patrick just admitted he was coaching! and he said sascha was coaching too.

Huge props to Naomi for holding it together!

Apparently Serena was the only woman on the court (along with being the only mother in the world).

look at the way serena is posing on stage lol

The crowd is booing. this is so bad for naomi. she is crying.

This is so unfair to naomi!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU SERENA!

Disgusting! Booing at Naomi's celebration. Disgusting.

The crowd is trash for booing during Osaka's moment. Blame Serena not the tournament.

Serena should have said that Naomi would've won anyway.....

The guy is asking such stupid questions!!!

Why doesn't she answer the questions? She is stupid.

Serena needs to be shrouded for not accepting responsibility for this debacle.

Fuck Serena. Many people are bringing up roid rage lol!!!

They are showing more of Serena's rants on TV. How did she expect to get away with talking to the umpire like that??

And the female commentator is saying Serena might not have known...fucking BS...she has been playing for decades, she knows the fucking rules!!!

Naomi is so sweet and respectful. She deserves to be given respect and her due as champion.

Osaka didn't say she was proud to be first winner from Japan when asked the question. WTF?

Notice the 'head nod' right at the end of Patrick's coaching, as if to confirm that his message has been received.

Quite possibly the biggest "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" moment in sports history.

Does anyone know whether Serena has any children?

Why yes r633, Serena was gracious enough to take time out of the US One Women's Final to let the umpire know that she has a daughter!