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English Eyes

I’m 59% British according to Ancestry DNA, most of the rest Irish and German/French. One of my friends, who is black and who married someone Laotian, told me years ago I have “chinky eyes.” Racist lingo notwithstanding, let’s look at English eyes. How do we explain the heavy-lidded Asian-looking ones?

Here is Sir Ian McKellen.

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by Anonymousreply 65September 3, 2018 1:35 PM

Patrick Stewart

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by Anonymousreply 1September 3, 2018 2:09 AM

It's a Scandinavian thing like the Sami.

by Anonymousreply 2September 3, 2018 2:11 AM

I can relate. Australian of English heritage and my family nicknamed me "Chink-wog" growing up because of my eyes and my dark hair.

by Anonymousreply 3September 3, 2018 2:11 AM

Bowie

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by Anonymousreply 4September 3, 2018 2:12 AM

Is this you, op?

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by Anonymousreply 5September 3, 2018 2:12 AM

You'll get slitty eyes if you stay too long.

by Anonymousreply 6September 3, 2018 2:15 AM

LOL not quite R5.

I never thought my eyes were Asiatic looking tbh, but I do have heavy lids, so I get why she said that.

And looking back at photos of myself as a toddler...I could have been mistaken for a tiny Asian lady!

by Anonymousreply 7September 3, 2018 2:18 AM

Justin Long and Joseph Gordon Levitt both have chinese eyes.

by Anonymousreply 8September 3, 2018 2:18 AM

My dad has them and is British-American. He did a DNA test because he thought he was adopted.

by Anonymousreply 9September 3, 2018 2:20 AM

This is Australian actress Emily Browning, of English ancestry.

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by Anonymousreply 10September 3, 2018 2:20 AM

My eyes are shaped just like Orlando’s, but mine are blue-gray.

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by Anonymousreply 11September 3, 2018 2:24 AM

Aussie but same thing

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by Anonymousreply 12September 3, 2018 2:26 AM

Henrietta (former) Duchess Of Bedford

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by Anonymousreply 13September 3, 2018 2:27 AM

Alec Baldwin young

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by Anonymousreply 14September 3, 2018 2:28 AM

Gere

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by Anonymousreply 15September 3, 2018 2:29 AM

Is this why they arrested him?

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by Anonymousreply 16September 3, 2018 2:29 AM

Great Dane

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by Anonymousreply 17September 3, 2018 2:31 AM

Pattinson

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by Anonymousreply 18September 3, 2018 2:33 AM
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by Anonymousreply 19September 3, 2018 2:36 AM

Brad

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by Anonymousreply 20September 3, 2018 2:37 AM

Josh

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by Anonymousreply 21September 3, 2018 2:37 AM

Seth

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by Anonymousreply 22September 3, 2018 2:39 AM

John Lennon had Asian eyes. Sean Ono Lennon might be half Japanese from his mother, but he was going to look Asian anyway from his father.

by Anonymousreply 23September 3, 2018 2:42 AM

Maybe we all look alike

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by Anonymousreply 24September 3, 2018 2:45 AM

I'm anglo-Irish and have a Asian looking eyes, though not at all hooded when younger. It's weird because both my parents had large round eyes, so mine must be a throwback.

People always complimented me on them but I always wished I had the big eyes of my sisters, but as we've grown older I realize that mine haven't aged as badly. Probably less skin to sag or something.

by Anonymousreply 25September 3, 2018 2:45 AM

This is weird I have them too and am a good amount English/Irish ...not the heavy lids but the almond shape. I also had straight black hair when I was born (it fell out and grew back light brown), was very ruddy and was born right out of the gate with big jowls and cheeks so my mom was convinced I was switched at birth and part Chinese. I was also RH Negative and left handed which no one else was.

by Anonymousreply 26September 3, 2018 2:47 AM

R26 Being Rh-, you’re likely northern/western European and not Chinese.

by Anonymousreply 27September 3, 2018 2:50 AM

R3 your family sounds ignorant AF.

R8, agree, & add Heath Ledger to that list as well.

Unfortunately, I have the opposite-large bug eyes that get hit by rain-and yes, I would rather have almond shaped eyes any day.

Of course, we always want what we don't have...

by Anonymousreply 28September 3, 2018 2:52 AM

Some of the guys here are just old and those lids are just gravity doing its job

by Anonymousreply 29September 3, 2018 2:54 AM

For the record, I love my eyes. They’re my best looking feature...although not my best feature, since I am terribly nearsighted and have optic nerve problems.

by Anonymousreply 30September 3, 2018 2:54 AM

R29 Some. That’s why I began the thread with young photos of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

by Anonymousreply 31September 3, 2018 2:55 AM

Because a minority of Europeans have monolids. Just as a minority of Asians have double lids.

by Anonymousreply 32September 3, 2018 2:55 AM

[quote] a minority of Asians have double lids

Not anymore.

They've all gotten surgery on their eyes, so that they can look more white.

Nobody hates themselves more than those people. They'll do anything not to look asian.

by Anonymousreply 33September 3, 2018 2:57 AM

I didn't realise Ian was quite so handsome back in the day. Positively roguish.

by Anonymousreply 34September 3, 2018 3:02 AM

R34 Yes.

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by Anonymousreply 35September 3, 2018 3:07 AM

bizarre photo @ R35.

by Anonymousreply 36September 3, 2018 3:08 AM

Bizarre how, R36?

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by Anonymousreply 37September 3, 2018 3:11 AM

It's funny, Ian looked worse with age, but Patrick got better. I'm guessing it's the face shape and bone structure. Ian has a longer face and less pronounced cheekbones.

by Anonymousreply 38September 3, 2018 3:11 AM

Benedict Cumberbatch young

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by Anonymousreply 39September 3, 2018 3:13 AM

R38 He’s gorgeous here.

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by Anonymousreply 40September 3, 2018 3:14 AM

He certainly is R40. I bet he hated losing his hair young, but it pretty much made his career.

-R38

by Anonymousreply 41September 3, 2018 3:17 AM

R41 Yeah, it was the hair-thinning years when he didn’t look his best.

by Anonymousreply 42September 3, 2018 3:20 AM

R14 When Barbra is done cloning her dogs, can she clone young Alec Baldwin and send me one?

by Anonymousreply 43September 3, 2018 3:22 AM

Almond-shaped eyes don't seem that much of a rarity among those of English/Irish descent.

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by Anonymousreply 44September 3, 2018 3:23 AM

But all of the narrow British eyes are downturned. Asian eyes tend to be upturned. Even Henrietta Russell's eyes are downturned, the photo and her makeup is tricking the eye.

by Anonymousreply 45September 3, 2018 3:27 AM

When English eyes are smiling, all the world seems bright and gay.

by Anonymousreply 46September 3, 2018 3:30 AM

Whenever I think of "authentic" English features (or what we call on here "terminal"), I think of people like the girl who plays "Arya" on Game of Thrones.

by Anonymousreply 47September 3, 2018 3:31 AM

They remain ignorant AF unfortunately R28. I secretly always hoped I'd been adopted. I'm the black sheep of my family in every way. OT but being told by a psychologist in my twenties that I have toxic parents was quite cathartic. Gave me the tools to stand up to them.

by Anonymousreply 48September 3, 2018 3:45 AM

R48, your mother allowed you to be treated like that? I mean it's one thing to have a dick for a father, but even your mother?

Geez. I really lucked out in the parents dept. They'd beat the shit out of anyone who even said that to me.

by Anonymousreply 49September 3, 2018 3:49 AM

I'm mainly Irish and people always say my eyes look Latino which I didn't think existed. I've also heard I have "fuck me eyes"

by Anonymousreply 50September 3, 2018 3:55 AM

They're just hooded, it's not uncommon. It's the epicanthic fold, rare in Europeans, that really makes Asian eyes "Asian."

by Anonymousreply 51September 3, 2018 3:58 AM

All the boys think she's a spy...

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by Anonymousreply 52September 3, 2018 3:58 AM

Yeah she did r48. Still enables and allows him to get away with shit. Having said that though, I posted on another thread a long time ago about being the only sibling who wasn't featured in the family photo wall by my mother because she doesn't think I photograph well.

by Anonymousreply 53September 3, 2018 4:43 AM

I'm genuinely sorry for you, R53. I hope whatever happiness you don't get from those assholes, you get from somewhere else or someone else.

by Anonymousreply 54September 3, 2018 4:45 AM

Thanks R54. I hope I didn't derail thread. I have a small but wonderful group around me who I can rely on and am pretty satisfied with where I'm at despite being dragged up. Some people just shouldn't have children.

by Anonymousreply 55September 3, 2018 4:52 AM

"Chinky eyes" are not typical of other British descendants.

Maybe it's just your family that interbred with Asians or Native Americans -- who were originally from Asia.

But maybe your British ancestors intermarried or bred with Asians. The British conquered most of Asia's people at one point.

Or maybe they bred with the many Europeans who were mingled with or got raped by Mongols, Huns or other Asiatic tribes that have been pouring into Europe for over 2,000 years.

Lots of Eastern Europeans have Asian DNA.

by Anonymousreply 56September 3, 2018 7:47 AM

R56 well I do think Northwestern Europeans tend to have wide set eyes (more than average) and wide set eyes more often than not tend toward the almond shape...

by Anonymousreply 57September 3, 2018 8:04 AM

R56 I’m the OP...I think my friend was referring to the hooding of my eyelids making them a little “squinty.” If Ancestry DNA is to be believed, I’m 59% brit, 23% irish, 12% french/german, and small amounts iberian and scandinavian, plus one percent Caucasian (hehe—from the Caucusus region). So the only asian inside me is cock-asian, and even that is only a tiny bit in me!

I do notice that a lot of English people when they are young but especially when they get older have heavy eyelids that make the eyes look droopy/sad/downturned at the outer edge. Even if the eyelid doesn’t obscure the fold, as with Hugh Grant here, the eyes are turned down and droopy. Princess Diana had these typical English eyes, too. When I am trying to guess a white person’s ancestry, I look at the eyes before guessing whether they might be of English descent.

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by Anonymousreply 58September 3, 2018 1:19 PM

This actor, Kirill Rubtsov, from the Russian show Ekaterina (Catherine the Great), seems kind of like a “missing link” between Eastern and Western features. He has the epicanthic fold, but his eyes are almond shaped and upturned at the outer edge, making them look more Asian. Most of us European people also have lines and orbital indentations under our eyes, whereas the lower lids of a lot of Asian eyes seamlessly transition into the upper cheeks like his do here.

With his brown hair, he looks like a fairly typical white guy, but between his eyes and his bone structure (below post from different angle) he looks like he could be Japanese to me.

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by Anonymousreply 59September 3, 2018 1:28 PM

34's pic tells me that it's age.

After a while the skin starts to droop I guess because Ian McKellan doesn't have it until he's older.

by Anonymousreply 60September 3, 2018 1:28 PM

r34's

by Anonymousreply 61September 3, 2018 1:28 PM

White Russian

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by Anonymousreply 62September 3, 2018 1:29 PM

Fuck R35 I mean

by Anonymousreply 63September 3, 2018 1:29 PM

R60 It’s not just age. Ian was only 20ish here.

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by Anonymousreply 64September 3, 2018 1:32 PM

One thing I do like about aging is that differences often start to fade as droopiness makes us more alike. I’ve seen an old lady who I assumed was white interviewed on a news segment who then began to talk and had an Asian accent, and I saw an old man whom I assumed was white begin talking about segregation only to realize he was black. But with skin colors changing, age spots appearing, eyes getting squintier, ethnic differences can become arbitrary.

by Anonymousreply 65September 3, 2018 1:35 PM
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