Angelina Jolie is no longer the saint she set out to be

Does anyone really care?

It's just another rich couple divorcing, with all the hyped emotion that entails.

They'll end up as friends once the dust settles.

The family source added, “Angelina kicked the s–t out of Brad at the beginning. Then she tried to make other threats and said he was going to be ­arrested. She really started a whispering campaign against Brad that was ­demonstrably false.”

Jolie was further left fuming, according to the Hollywood source, when her ex was given a standing ovation by the audience at the January 2017 Golden Globes after months out of the spotlight.

“Angelina went crazy. That’s why she insisted on releasing a joint statement two days later,” added the Hollywood source. “She was trying to attach herself to him, so people wouldn’t view her unfavorably.”

In the joint statement, released on January 10, 2017, Jolie and Pitt said they were hiring a private judge and would handle their divorce in a private forum, while working to reunify their family.

But then, the family source said, “Angelina believed the only way to win was to go in for the kill.” Jolie’s team publicly leaked court documents, alongside a statement about a lack of child support, to NBC News earlier this month.

“She went on the attack,” the family source said. “Essentially, Angelina’s calling Brad a deadbeat dad, when he pays for the kids’ security, hotels and private jets. All he wants is to see his kids.”

Insiders also told The Post that Jolie has made that difficult.

“In the past two years, Angelina has driven a wedge between [Pitt] and the kids, from controlling [their] phone calls to telling the kids they don’t need to see him and picking times he can see them when she knows he’s working,” said a source with intimate knowledge of the divorce.

In June, Judge John Ouderkirk (who also presided over the couple’s August 2015 civil wedding ceremony) told Jolie that if the children “remain closed down to their father,” she faced losing custody of them.

The actress was ordered to give Pitt the numbers for all the kids’ phones, as well as to refrain from monitoring any conversations between him and the children.

Currently, Pitt gets visitation with Maddox, 17, Pax, 14, Zahara, 13, Shiloh, 12 and twins Vivienne and Knox, 10, for four hours every other day and 12 hours over the weekend. There is one exception: The court is allowing Maddox to decide how much time he spends with his father.

On Wednesday, news leaked that Jolie and Pitt had come to terms on an interim custody agreement. However, a source close to Pitt said that the couple have the same interim agreement that has been in place for a while, with a more permanent custody deal still to be decided.

“There was no new agreement. This was totally made up,” the source said. “The biggest joke is that she continues to be awful toward him.”

“Angie has these wild mood swings,” the source added. “She [had] launched this aggressive tone, which backfired, saying she’s poor when she’s making $25 million a movie, and saying Brad’s not paid child support. This week, she came back all mellow and super nice — it’s a direct reaction to the fact that people did not react well to her [previous] blow.”

(Jolie’s representatives did not respond to requests for comment.)

As for financial support, Pitt’s lawyers have reiterated that he loaned Jolie $8 million so she could buy a $19 million home — the estate of legendary filmmaker Cecil B. DeMille — and has paid out more than $1.3 million in child ­support.

For Pitt, said the Hollywood source, “It’s really the alienation from his kids that’s the worst.”

Walzer said Jolie needs to be careful about her behavior ahead of a custody hearing, which will be followed by family visits with a court-appointed psychologist.

“When somebody is in the throes of this kind of custody proceeding, they’re not always rational,” he explained. “If you look uncooperative, it could be worse for you. If you look like you’re the alienating parent, then you’re putting yourself at risk — do you really want to do that?”

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At this point, the public thinks they're both assholes!

Which is only going to get worse for both of them, if they continue to leak nasty shit about each other.

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They are both disgusting

Lainey Gossip will get in a rage over this.

I come down on the side of the parent not trying to drive a wedge between the kids and the other parent.

Yeah, no shit, OP.

Unapologetically evil. I am a Method ACTOR!!!!

Hey! R8! Back off OP!

He had it coming.

Next time don’t have kids with a BPD, Brad.

I do love how classic it is that Angie couldn’t predict “the public” would turn on her for this crazy behavior. BPDs always overestimate their manipulative abilities.

Oh honey, she doesn't do charity work. She's an uneducated twit who travels the world on the UN's dime.

Am I crazy for not having anything against either of them?

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Counting down for her PR counter strike in a classier journal. The Times Of London or Town And Country, perhaps.

[quote]They'll end up as friends once the dust settles.

😂

News flash: she’s a fucking bipolar bisexual borderline personality sociopath. Duh.

I am completely ambivalent about both of them. I do, however, feel bad for the kids.

Those poor kids never stood a chance, angoolooney is a blood sucking leech.

The general public ONLY liked Angelina once she hooked up with Brad and settled down. He made her seem more accessible and less crazy (to be fair, back in the day she made him more interesting). If she wasn't in thrall to her monstrous ego, she'd have seen the mutual benefits of the partnership and held onto the marriage for dear life. They could have worked out an arrangement to do whatever they liked in private and kept the happy public front going.

Even an amicable divorce would have hurt her, but this nuclear option is damaging her reputation past the point of recovery. Especially since she's over 40 now, and the femme fatale shtick has gotten really old. Mark my words, once she understands the full extent of the damage, she'll try to play nice with Pitt and find another likeable man to latch onto. It probably won't work, but she'll try.

Brad seems like a really nice guy, but I have no doubt he was a lousy husband and father. Angelina seems like an altruistic saint, but she’s also the product of a broken home who’s mental health issues were known to all in her 20s.

None of this is a shocker.

Yeah, it's hard to work up any interest in these two. They lived their lives together as some kind of royalty in their French chateau and their vineyard with all their kids and now that it's all gone south and frankly it doesn't surprise me. She seems like a wack job and he seemed like a pussy-whipped alcoholic.

I never thought he adopted her adopted children. I guess I thought of him like their stepfather, not actual father.

A baby collector has a problem .

R25 tell me about it.

What r25 and "Woody" said.

R6 I can’t stand Lainey Gossip and her crusade for saint Angelina and against Brad. In general I can’t stand Lainey “frau” Gossip. Her blog was fun before now is all politically correct and full of pseudo feminist rants, when before she was a cunt to a lot of actresses.

I remember the days when she was "so in love" with me. Sigh. Every time someone mentions something about the Oscars I just get all nostalgic and I just...….

Say what you want but she does give saintly kisses though (never stingy with her tongue).

She's a bitch.

Would help the saint if a well known, complete p.o.s of a human being were to vouch for her?

. . . said the ultra-right-wing-Looney-Toon "father" at R30.

R28 The worst part of it is that Lainey is claiming sexism and misogyny in how Jolie is being portrayed in the media right now. When in reality, Jolie is a pathological liar who pretended she had cancer, narcissist who controls her children’s lives and constantly moves them around to prevent them from forming ties with people other than her, and is a “minimally talented spoiled brat”. Side note – Have any films directed by her been good? Has her acting ever been good? Laughably no.

Her career is pretty much over.

Somewhere, Jennifer Aniston is rolling on the floor screaming, "Oh, my sides!"

She's got a whole "Michael Jackson just before he died" look going on now. Wonder if that's what killed the marriage.

[quote]The worst part of it is that Lainey is claiming sexism and misogyny in how Jolie is being portrayed in the media right now.

Not just Lainey. All the usual suspects are using that angle. Ignoring the fact that she's trying to prevent the kids from having a relationship with their father. Don't forget that Angelina was singing his praises right until the abrupt separation.

Lainey and the usual suspects were openly salivating at the beginning of this divorce mess when Jolie was manipulating the media to her advantage and painting Pitt as some kind of drunk and abuser. Lainey called it "Gossip Christmas" and had zero concern at the time that, whether or not it were true, it was terrible for the children to have their parents divorce be such a public spectacle. Because it was Jolie who made it one. But now that Jolie has completely lost control of the narrative, Lainey is OUTRAGED that all this divorce sleaze is being publicly aired and these poor poor children are in the middle. And of course now she blames Pitt for it because he beats Jolie at her own game in using the press to his advantage.

This muppet faced bitch needs to just go away . She’s totally nuts and what she’s doing to her children makes me sick . Brad strikes me as a bit of a pussy . From what I hear it’s Angelina who’s the true drug addict and not Brad . Opiates , fentanyl , Heroin . Wonder why he doesn’t fight more . She must have something huge on him is my only guess .

The first role I ever saw her in was in 'Hackers', and the smug, venomous look on her face made me want to punch her. I've never stopped feeling that way about her, and nothing I've read about her since has changed my mind.

Her original face was borderline hideous.

That bitch was never wrapped too tight.

"The worst part of it is that Lainey is claiming sexism and misogyny in how Jolie is being portrayed in the media right now."

I think there's a little bit of truth in that, "the media" and the public seem to be forgiving Pitt for being an irresponsible drunk who couldn't be arsed to send his kids to school. They both seem to be awful people and awful parents, yet Angie is now taking more heat from the media. Not that she doesn't deserve every bit of it, but if Pitt emerges from this with his career intact it will in part be because people still forgive men more shit than women.

Jolie is fine with sexist media narratives when they work to her advantage. See e.g. selfish Aniston not giving Pitt the babies he so desperately wanted. Jolie helped sell that shit hard with her "I was a shoulder for him to cry on" crap.

The reason Pitt is getting an (undeserved) pass is because no one believes he's an incorrigible abusive alcoholic. He's not a Depp or Penn. He's not even an Affleck. Jolie, again when it was to her advantage, painted him as the perfect partner and father and aggressively painted both of them as the perfect parents with the perfect life. And he in turn had nothing but praise for her, helping sell the notion that she was a 100% reformed wild child to the public and now a "serious" actress and humanitarian. So the perception, fair or not, is that whatever happened on that plane was not indicative of who he is as a person or father. Jolie has no one to blame but herself for that perception. And if it was all a lie, it was her lie, so why should anyone believe her now? So now, given how he's been a devoted father for years, whatever happened that day shouldn't result in him being denied access to his children. He did his public penance, he owned up to drinking too much and screwing up, and has otherwise been pretty quiet. Whereas Jolie carries herself as humorless, blameless and completely lacking in forgiveness. She's also the one who keeps insisting her kids are so traumatized and damaged (oh please), yet surrounds herself with them constantly in both obvious staged pap shots, drags them into interviews, and brings them to Hollywood events they have zero reason to be attending except as PR for mommy. Because that's just what supposedly traumatized kids need, constant media scrutiny.

And that's why Pitt gets the standing ovation and the sympathy. He's playing the game much better than she is. So yes, while there sexism at play (as there always is), that alone does not adequately explain what's happening with their media narrative.

It's true, Pitt is playing a good long game and she isn't. He actually let her win the first round, giving her full custody and putting up with supervised visits, because once the accusation of bad behavior is out there, that's the only way to convince a family court that you're sober and responsible. And he's kept any other stories of bad behavior out of the media, and positioned himself as the poor innocent responsible dad who's being kept from seeing his kids, even though he's participated in shitty parenting all along.

There are times when I think that Pitt is a lot smarter than I think he is. But it's more likely that he's just smart enough to listen to the expensive lawyers and publicists he hired to make him look good during the divorce.

Melissa Etheridge also gives the inside scoop on how Angelina and Billy Bob treated Laura Dern.

His first mistake was sticking his dick in her. His second mistake was he didn't run after that. Now he's got a whole tribe of children attaching him to her looney ways for the rest of his life. His children are being raised and influenced by her. This mistake will never go away for this once simple guy with an easy life that people dreamed of. Poor schmuck is fucked.

Melissa Etheridge? She's a real paragon of virtue.

She s probably no saint and I would guess volatile and controlling, but Pitt was a stoner and a drunk and somebody constantly stoned all the time which isnt easy to handle, especially since I would guess she is not given to problems with substance abuse and probably views it as pathetically weak (which it is). Pitt also apparently took a hard right turn politically and also believed in disciplining the kids which goes against her grain............Pitt came from white trashy born again baggage so its not surprising.........one other thing...Pitts spending habits have been considered out of control his whole career, and finally I think she had enuf of living with somebody with no smarts at all....

In the pic @ r46, looks like Jolie has cheek implants.

[quote]News flash: she’s a fucking bipolar bisexual borderline personality sociopath. Duh.

You forgot "heroin addict"

R49 Fuck off Frau

"especially since I would guess she is not given to problems with substance abuse"

Fangirl! The rumors about her abusing opiates have been around for year, for decades!

But if true, I'm surprised that he hasn't made any of that public, but then maybe he knows that it isn't a good idea to attack the mother of his children in public. Like I said, he's the one playing the long game.

[quote]especially since I would guess she is not given to problems with substance abuse and probably views it as pathetically weak (which it is).

Huh? It is well known that she's had her own, extensive, problematic history of drug abuse, particularly heroin. Brad has been pretty open about toking too much and drinking too much alcohol, but he was already doing that before she met him, yet she still married him and went on to have/adopt a gaggle of children.

R49 = Fiona The Fangurl.

[quote]Pitt came from white trashy born again baggage

False. He comes from a good family. Very stable, close and loving---something AJ knows nothing about, so of course it made her uncomfortable and no doubt jealous. No one has anything bad to say about the Pitts except fucked up AJ. From all accounts they are lovely people.

[quote]especially since I would guess she is not given to problems with substance abuse and probably views it as pathetically weak (which it is).

*snort* what planet are you from, buttercup? Angelina is a fucking addict---hard drugs. And you think she has a right to be intolerant of Brad's drinking? Oh, my sides.

[quote]Pitt also apparently took a hard right turn politically and also believed in disciplining the kids which goes against her grain

Exactly what they need. He's the only good parent if this is the case.

[quote]somebody with no smarts at all

Pitt's a fucking genius compared to you, R49.

I tend to be on Team Pitt on this one because people who don't seem to be getting all their news from tabloids seem to side with him--i.e. the judge who threatened to pull primary custody if Jolie wasn't better about visitation and the Golden Globes audience--many of whom would know what was up with Pitt and Jolie.

Everyone knows that Ben Affleck is a cheating drunk, but Jennifer Garner doesn't screw him over on visitation/custody. Grown-ups don't screw over their kids when it comes to the other parent unless the kid's safety/well-being is at stake. It's just a rotten, selfish thing to do your children.

I know Pitt's supposed to be a major stoner, but he's done well behind the camera as a producer as well as picking some interest parts as an actor. He's always looked like an idiot, but I don't think he actually is one, except, maybe, where women are involved.

Her potatofication is complete.

I don't think the Pitts are born again, I think they're just Southern Baptist. Not that there's a huge difference.

The person who keeps saying the Pitt family are perfect human beings always seems to forget that Brad's mom a few years back wrote that nasty racist homophobic letter to the editor to the Springfield paper, where she blamed everything on gays and Obama.

Nice people don't act like that. They're fundie trash. Other fundies and Middle American types will say they're the nicest people in the world, but they're no "nicer" than any other deplorable is.

Basically, I just wish the Pitt family fangurl would stop trying to act like her homophobic heroes should be revered as saints on a gay board.

I just love all the idiots who point out Brad's flaws as if they are any reason to deny him custody. He's dumb, he's lazy, he's a stoner, a drinker, a spender. Who the fuck cares? You are describing millions of fathers who ALL have custody of their children. You don't have to be perfect to be a good dad. All indications are that he is at least 'as good as' the average man at fathering. He clearly loves his kids and is fighting hard to be a part of their lives. Evil Angie has no right to fuck with his parental rights. And the judge agrees.

HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED

That Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Aniston share the same initials, only reversed?

Link R60?

I tend to be on Brad's side, despite his parents' views (which he has openly disagreed with). His issues with his parents have been kept rather quiet, unlike Angelina's. He's certainly never shown any homophobia, of which I'm aware: he's not responsible for his parents' views. Gwyneth Paltrow is on record as saying he was too good for her. Jennifer Aniston has said that she's still friends with him, and has made it clear that she blames Angelina for the end of her marriage to Brad (I don't agree with her, since it takes two to tango, but the fact that she's still friendly with his is very telling). He's worked with a lot of people in Hollywood, both as an actor, but also as a producer, and he doesn't seem to have made many enemies, which is why his standing ovation at the Golden Globes wasn't that big of a surprise.

I just love that she was pissed at that GG standing ovation he got. You know most of Hollywood would love to stick it to her. She's been such an asshole.

Angelina went after Laura Dern? That bitch is dead to me.

before chin implant

What r7 said. In the end, that’s what it comes down to.

I know someone who worked with her at the UN, apparently she is a class A Bitch (we are talkingJoan Crawford levels here) who only does the charity stuff for publicity.

Has she ever actually been in a successful film since Girl, Interrupted? I thought Tomb Raider was a massive flop and I struggle to name anything 'big' she's been in since.

These suggestions of her being worth $160m surely take into account Brad's money?

She may have made 160 million in her lifetime but I bet she doesn’t have near that much now. Her lifestyle will eat up most of her earnings.

She doesn’t seem to be in demand anymore. Could she have been blacklisted?

[quote]Has she ever actually been in a successful film since Girl, Interrupted?

Maleficent was a huge hit and she just finished Maleficent 2.

Well...Excuse Me!!!!

I saw her a few years ago in some old movie about different couples. I think she was with Ethan Hawke in that movie. You could really tell how much plastic surgery she had since the movie, she looked completely different. Eyes different, nose different, a rounder fatter face although her body was skinny, and lips much bigger then they are now.

R75, human lips naturally thin out with age, if her mouth is smaller that may be one of the few things on her that's natural.

R60 And people also conveniently forget that Jennifer Aniston was and still is close to Pitt's mother, which makes me wonder about her.

Pre-cosmetic Angelina looks a lot like Shiloh. If AJ is half as insecure as she's portrayed to be then Shiloh's better off hanging out in oversized sports shirts for the next few years. It's probably better to have the coverage be about her gender instead of how beautiful she is.

Shiloh and Angelina both look like Jon Voight.

The grandpappy is strong in them.

And Jon Voight and Brad Pitt share a similar look.

Yay Freud.

R76, she did something to her lips. They changed shape and size long before they'd naturally start thinning. I don't know if a chin implant can affect the size/shape of the bottom lip, if so that could be it.

Lol R62 Are you stoned?

laura dern is such a talented humble queen, why would this dull no talent uncharismatic cunt do her so wrong like that? Fuck her.

In R76's pic she's before upper lip injection

fake face fake tits. first nose job and first breast implant at age 16.

she remade her face after German actress Ellen Schwiers

Jolie before plastic surgery

Ellen Schwiers

That Lainey columnist sure thinks AJ is a saint.

Lainey *is* AJ ...or at least one of lainey's many personalities thinks she is AJ...

Everyone had saw this fraud bitch's M.O. years ago. Nuf said. She can be an OK actress and occasionally marrant.

Oh, dear.

had seen

saw.

Pitt is worse than her in every way and I say that as someone who hates Jolie

She was never a saint to begin with, OP.

I wonder if any of them will talk publicly about what it was like growing up with the Jolie-Pitts, once they reach adulthood. Maddox will be 18 next year but I would think the adopted kids are going to be quiet so they don’t get disinherited and Shiloh is the most likely to talk.

R49, are you for real?

I would guess she is not given to problems with substance abuse and probably views it as pathetically weak (which it is)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Is it wrong of me to hope that Shiloh ends up as a bisexual man and woman-eater, successfully outshining her mother and driving her around the bend?

When you leave your wife for a psycho, then are surprised when she acts like a psycho

She kind of disappeared from the public eye, after decades of being in the spotlight for every little thing she did. I get a Garbo vibe from her - she will no longer be seen once she is not beautiful anymore.

This is what happens when there is no black father present.

Lol, [R102]! I have no idea why you posted that, but it made me laugh....

What was the deal with her leg in that black gown in R91 post? Is it a joke?

It wasn't intended as a joke, R104, but it became one.

And her legs aren't good. Long, yes, but spindly and bony.

Jim Rash is a God.

Interesting face but freaky body.

Was there a reaction shot from AJ when Jim Rash mocked her?

That leg shot was golden. Totally and completely hilarious.

For someone to post like that shows that they are completely separated from reality,

R107 and her face is not even her's it's a fake plastic face

I don't get where anyone would equate the two as far as lies and trash leaking. She's been pedal to the metal while he's kept his mouth shut. If he had been leaking, we'd have been seeing a lot more "Angie Drug Shocker! She's Been a JUNKIE for 20 Years!"

Here's how you can tell who's zooming who in this thing. The now-infamous flight was an Angie set-up. She decided what she wanted to do, rented a house for herself and the kids several months earlier and waited. Brad got drunk, the older boy got mouthy (probably egged on by St. Angie) and when they stopped for refueling, she made her move.

She's a manipulative, lying, drug addicted cunt who doesn't love her children. She values her hostages.

Shiloh's probably dressing as a boy in self-defense. How long before beautiful Zahara becomes a "problem" for Mommy and has to go away to school? Vivienne's still young but she's another beauty.

Why do we STILL not know what happened on the plane?! Did Brad hit the kid or not? Punch? Slap? Push? What the hell actually happened?!

I wish Brad would leak more info.

Unfortunately, all those years of refurbishing her reputation were all for nothing. People are slowly remembering what a crazy bitch she used to be.

Brad has been leaking. All this stuff about the divorce proceedings, we've been hearing recently, isn't coming from her. That AJ is jellous of Amal Cloony story is coming from Brad. All the stuff about him dating Neri the architect was from Brad. He or his publicists played the game better. If he's not floating stories about child abuse and drug addiction, it's because it's not true or he'd be implicated. AJ said that she'd used hard drugs recreationally years ago, but stopped without rehab. Dr. Drew insisted that it isn't possible to do that and she must be a junkie. That's how a the Heroina stuff got going. Being anorexic adds to the rumors obviously.

Brad talked about being a stoner when he was with Anisten.He said he was really unhappy then, implied it was Jens fault. He said he'd stopped when he got with St. Angie. Much like she suggested she gave up being a kinky bisexual when she got with Brad. Brad said this shit in an interview years after his split with Anisten.He walked his statements back a little when he got slammed for blaming Jen for his cheating. He has a sense of humor about himself, unlike St. Angie, so he comes off nicer. He's just as manipulative though.

R115, you have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously. Yes, they both have good PR teams. Beyond that, you're in fantasy world. She's a junkie. She never stopped. Don't be stupid.

Jolie Pitt have been over years before they got married. When they got married, I thought, "Oh, it's so they can get divorced." PR wise, it was the only way to finish the story. Bet it's not even a legal marriage but neither party is going to own up to that one. Jolie can't seriously believe Pitt would chase after her - that has to be b.s. unless she's the narcissist some people claim she is.

I also thought the same about Aniston and Thereoux (no, don't think there's a connection). She'd been single for years, "poor Jen" but with Thereoux for several years, so get married, then 2 years later get divorced, and she can move on from the "poor Jen" thing. I doubt that marriage was legal either. The energy between them was always "eh".

Junkie, yes, and also gay (Angelina is gay).

Lesbian for attention and some fun on the side, straight for acceptance, children and long-term relationships. So straight.

R49 Are you insane or just drunk? Pitt did not come from "Born Again trash." What in the hell ever gave you that idea? He comes from one of the better families of all actors working today. Typical UMC country club Republicans.

R120 I think R49 is confusing Pitt with his character CV, since Pitt played "white trash" a few times in his early career, and was reputedly a big smelly pothead. But yes, his family was and is well off, and his brother is very successful.

I don't know, I thought it was interesting that Michael Douglas (yeah, I know) was all "What the FUCK was Brad Pitt smoking that he dumped Jennifer Aniston for Angelina Jolie)!" Jolie was in her supposed prime at the time, had the "most beautiful woman in the world" rep, also sexy and humanitarian (if the celebrity humanitarian bullshit can stop soon, I'd be so happy). While Jen was a very successful ex-TV actress churning out the same movie over and over again. Yet supposedly Brad Pitt's "circle" thought Jolie was toxic. She'd been in the business for years so she must have earned it.

Well look at the situation they're in right now, R122. Seem toxic enough for you?

R116 why isn't Brad calling the police if she's got illegal drugs in the house with the kids. Why isn't he bringing it up in the custody fight. It's not a he said she said situation, there are tests that would prove she's using. Why isn't he fighting for full custody and making her have the supervised visits? Being an active junkie would make her dangerous to the kids. Why isn't he protecting them? Why did normal nice guy Brad have kids with a junkie? She's got issues for sure, clearly she's anorexic and has a vindictive streak. It's hard to maintain a habit when you travel that much, even with money. You have to have a connection everywhere. It's extremely risky to carry drugs over international boarders. Even if you're wealthy. All it takes is one local official who wants to make a name for himself and you're fucked.

I think the public has always liked Pitt better. How popular was she really, other than with her cult following?

Oh please, she's been a junkie for years. Brad isn't going to open that can of worms. He drank and he got high, and he was too lazy. They had a nanny for each kid. Neither is a great parent, but she's the junkie. She also takes pills, which, as you know, can be done with an unscrupulous doctor or by having a lot of doctors. Just look at close-ups of her damn pupils sometime. High as a kite.

R124 you really don't know much about wealthy people, drugs, and international borders.

R125 I don't know how well liked she was, but she was very popular with the media. She did lots of interviews. She got her picture taken a lot. She was very famous. When she and Pitt got together there were lots of men say of course he left Jen for her. They thought she was hotter and probably a great fuck. She was way beyond cult status. A lot of women thought of her as the weird girl. Some women relate to the weird girl, some hate them and get really pissed when weird girls are successful in any way. After adopting and getting with Pitt she became super frau sex goddess and the mean girls forgot they hated her.

R122 - yes it is toxic. Jolie doesn't have a new trophy man lined up, that's part of the reason she's maintaining the drama.

R124 Keith Richards managed to get busted. All it takes is one customs agent who can't be bought or someone who wants to get attention by taking the celebrity down. There haven't been any reports of members of the entourage get caught holding.

By the way I've got family members who used to deal. I know several ex junkies even more ex meth heads. I know people who used heroin recreationally and didn't get addicted. know people in the legal weed business. I also have relative who worked in the entertainment business. Some close family friends were roadies for the Stones among other bands. I'm not naive.

She got popular when she adopted Maddox, seemed free-wheeling and cool. Her PR said she paid her own way on her humanitarian jaunts. She played that she was accessible. I think Brad was sucked in not by her beauty but by her seemingly unimpeachable coolness at the time. I think the rest of their relationship was just him doubling down. That's what a lot of egocentric people do when they blunder.

R124, Keith Richards was busted 40 years ago in Toronto. It's a different world. You also don't have to bring your shit with you; you can get hooked up there. Although I don't think those who indulge give a shit, and consume when they want. The world was not as celebrity crazy.

R118 Do you really think a woman who use a vial of blood and made out with her brother for attention is a closet case? Don't even buy that she is bi, probably lying for male attention. She is straight

R132 like I said you have to have connections everywhere. They traveled to some countries that have very strict laws and very harsh sentences. With the amount of traveling she does it would be very challenging to get connections everywhere and to control the local authorities. Celebrities still get busted, they just don't suffer many consequences here in the U.S. Johny Depp got in trouble for smuggling his dog into Australia. Not everyone will let celebrities do anything.

There haven't been stories of erratic behavior on sets or at any of these UN events she attends. Charlie Sheen had to be propped up on the TAHM set at the end and they couldn't give him to many lines to remember. There were lots of stories about Depp causing production problems on the set before the domestic violence shit hit the fan. Remember all the stories of production problems Lohan caused before the industry collectively washed it's hands of her? For all of her cancer gene medical issues, she's perfectly functional. She isn't being hospitalized for exhaustion all the time. She missed that premier because of the "chicken pox", but that was after being embarrassed by the Sony hack. I don't think it was drug related. No one in the Sony hack claimed she was a junkie, just that she was a camp event and not as talented and smart as she thought she was.

I feel sorry for the kids. She's a vile, toxic woman.

You don't have to worry about smuggling heroin across international borders, if you can get Doctor Feelgood to write you a prescription for fentanyl patches or dilaudid pills! And yes, there have been rumors about Jolie and fentanyl patches for years.

But I assume that neither is willing to accuse the other of illegal drug use, because both have too much to hide on that front. I have been hearing rumors about Jolie and opiates for years and years and nothing beyond pot for Pitt, but that doesn't mean that he's clean enough to open that can of worms. Illegal drug use is just too widespread among the spoiled and beautiful for that to be likely.

Pitt was (currently is not?) a drinker and pot head. Jolie is an opioid addict with personality disorders.

The lesbians worshiped her and then she lost them (except the masochists) when she said she'd only been playing with girls and just wanted dick now that she had found real love with Bradley.

She's just an awful person, always has been.

Bradley didn't bring up the drugs because he didn't want the mother of his children to go to jail. She was the one with the scam to frame him and take the kids. She was the one calling the authorities and exaggerating as well as outright lying about Brad's behavior. She was the schemer.

His tactic was to keep a level head, worry about his kids, sit back, cooperate, tell the truth and wait for her to crumble under the weight of her own lies and fucking insanity. And voila, it is happening. She will lose everything before her self-destructiveness is finished.

R138 there was a skinny glamorous homeless woman around MoMA in the 80's who wore plastic garbage bags (and sometimes gowns made out of dryer lint and black duck tape) and current AJ is a dead ringer.

R127 is correct. The freak who keeps arguing with him is just acting trumpy - "I cannot be wrong and I will make shit up and keep on posting it until you either go away or bow to the dozen bald faced lies I just told you!

Insane fucking pain in the ass. Drown yourself in a Vegas fountain, idiot.

She's so gay.

R130 I need all the stories from the Stones’ roadies 🙏

You know of course that kissing her brother and wearing a vile of blood were PR stunts, not Angie just being Angie, free-wheeling and let the chips fall, right?. Celebrities do that shit all the time. The real dirt lies in a) money; b) drugs and pulling up a distance third, c) sex.

I remember when Madonna did her documentary - she let everything hang out except when the talk got to money. That's typical. Nobody is really letting it all hang out.

[R142] = Angie’s mother, ”Marcheline” (aka Marsha)

If she truly only weighs 76 lbs as the tabloids say; how much longer before her heart gives out?

Well, R145, that would simplify the custody battle, I suppose. She has looked like she is verging on death for quite a few years now. Except for Karen Carpenter, do celebs really die of eating disorders?

R117 Maniston and her gay merkin Theroux were never married there's no marriage license they lied about the whole thing

I'm sure her marriage and relationship with Pitt was a fake one too

R141 Yes she is but people are too stupid and so easily fooled by fake PR relationships and lavender marriages who can't see the truth

I would say most power couples in Hollywood are gay/merkin couples

* beard/merkin

I feel sorry for Maddox. He seemed so happy when he was first adopted. Full of confidence, very attached. Then abruptly, here comes Pitt, and 1, 2 3 siblings almost all at once. He must have been shell-shocked.

He should blame “mom” for that, [R150], not Pitt.

Jolie was desperate for Pitt on the “Mr. and Mrs. Smith” set by all accounts—and she’s never been single for long either, so that’s hardly surprising.

Then Pitt went for her hard.

I don't blame Pitt, I do blame Jolie.

Jolie was shopping hard. I don't know - maybe she should have stuck with Jonny Lee, although they probably would have gone down in flames anyway. She was chasing Colin Farrell pretty hard. I think the disappointment many of his friends felt with Pitt was that he FELL for it. He thought she was the ultimate cool girl. He has always been that protean guy in relationships, at least cosmetically. Grungy with Juliette Lewis, tan and funky with Aniston, sleek and blonde with Paltrow, and then he started twisting bandannas around his head and stuff with Jolie, while she went nuts and piled on as many kids in as fast a time frame as she could. I think "getting" him represented cred to her - "I AM the most beautiful!" And of course, $$$$$.

Pitt will be paying for that pussy the rest of his life.

Didn't Maddox acquire 5 siblings in fewer than 3 years? Super fucked up

He did. I became a fan of Jolie after she adopted Maddox - not to the point of actually seeing her movies, but I liked reading about her. Maddox always looked extremely happy and they had an obvious "connection" if you can believe it. He'd twinkle at her, he'd laugh out loud. Sure, the photos were edited for the best one, but no matter what he always looked attached, as if he always belonged with her. Then along comes Brad, and abruptly, Zahara, and then Angie is pregnant and before Shiloh's cord is cut she goes and adopts Pax. The kid's entire life was upended - it was him and mom, and suddenly he was living with his own kindergarten class and some new guy. If the bond between Angie and Maddox hadn't at least looked so great it would be less unfortunate, but I always felt for him because he seemed so happy and then he didn't know what hit him.

What is a “camp event” anyway?

Yeah, I wondered what he meant by that too.

Well, she is pretty over the top a lot of the time. Even the way she posed on the red carpet in that black velvet dress. She just doesn't know how to rein it in. She is, as the kids would say, extra.

I always assumed that Rudin was referring to the fact that Jolie’s personal life *far* outshined her professional life once she hooked up with Pitt and adopted/birthed the million children from around the world (and adopted the new “jet setting Mother Teresa” lifestyle).

Her life seemed messy and wild, like a three ring circus.

Especially when she and Pitt started traveling with *all* the kids non-stop (nomadically) and were buying castles and vineyards in France, she was traveling around the globe crying over refugees and appearing at the U.N., and was giving birth in far away African countries and in Europe (IVF twins), her personal life seemed to take on a life of its own—almost like a kind of performance art.

It was a fucking over the top “camp event” almost every day. She became completely unrelatable and her life bizarre.

I never wondered what Rudin’s meaning about that was at all; it’s like you forgot that she was a woman who ever acted in films—a.k.a. just an actress...

Even their wedding photos were bizarre; she let the kids draw all over the designer dress on purpose (more chaos) and Maddox and Pax look like they want to kill someone....

All the horrible drawings at the bottom of “the dress”...

Oh, and I forgot: Brad and Angie just “forgot” to get a wedding cake, so their kids baked one for them! (Or so they told People Magazine)

The Jolie-Pitt family low key arrival at an airport (one of countless arrivals lol this).

This is the kind of shit that Scott Rudin was referencing...

And also: during this period Jolie was always carefully dressed like Audrey Hepburn in public and the kids were always dressed like shit.

I never bought into their BS about their perfect life. I'm surprised that anyone was ever that gullible to believe their lies. Scott Rudin described her perfectly.

Jolie has also always seemed to have a poor sense of boundaries (to put it kindly); the making out with her brother at multiple events and even in front of shocked veteran photographer Mario Testino at an infamous photo shoot was very telling.

I would not be surprised if poorly defined boundaries within the Jolie-Pitt family (especially between Jolie and Maddox—as she’s always had a “special” relationship with him) led to an eventual showdown of Maddox vs. Brad for top dog in the family (after Angelina of course) as Maddox became a teen.

They look like peers here

Does her pussy stink?

Does she still carry Maddox?

Yes, I remember all the "carrying Maddox" photos, for years. There were jokes that he was unable to walk on his own.

The kids always look sloppy.

[quote]And also: during this period Jolie was always carefully dressed like Audrey Hepburn in public and the kids were always dressed like shit.

Why was that I wonder? The gap between her coiffed outfits and their regular sloppy kid outfits was unusual.

She’s sticking to caftans now, because St John dresses and Burberry trenches look weird in LA. But her Brad-era outfits of power suits and tailored dresses and chignons had a kind of hyper-chic throwback corporate look which was very out of date these past 15 years unless you work in politics or at an old fashioned law firm. More play-acting on her part.

R33, her cancer was nonexistent? Why hasn’t it been exposed as such?

And after all of this, she STILL can't get that noxious stench out of her pantyhose.

Her charity/UN was always just for PR - she truly fancied herself as a modern day Audrey Hepburn. Bottom line she’s an opiate addict, BPD, and a narcissist. Collecting children is again more about PR and satisfying some personal God complex. Otherwise why not launch a school like Oprah and help hundreds of kids improve their life? No, they have to play God and truly radically/miraculously upend an individual, keeping them indebted. The adopted kids will be shunted aside anyway, playing the role of long term caregiver while the glamor will follow the three bios.

Is it true that she'll be portraying Mother Teresa in an upcoming biopic?

[quote] he loaned Jolie $8 million so she could buy a $19 million home — the estate of legendary filmmaker Cecil B. DeMille

Wow, I'm so jealous. I saw the pictures and thought it's a beautiful property

[quote]She’s sticking to caftans now, because St John dresses and Burberry trenches look weird in LA. But her Brad-era outfits of power suits and tailored dresses and chignons had a kind of hyper-chic throwback corporate look which was very out of date these past 15 years unless you work in politics or at an old fashioned law firm. More play-acting on her part.

If she really is BPD then she struggles with a solid sense of identity. That can be reflected in different personas expressed through her style of dress. Not multiple personality just a strong sense of who she is and what she’s about.

How will she pay Pitt back that $8 million dollars. She is not exactly in command these days.

Mufflificent will make money.

She’s gonna get worse looking. As menopause goes on, the bad stuff keeps happening. Hot flashes, crepey skin, thinning hair, dry skin, fat, fat and more fat. I’m sure she can use liposculpting and that kinds shit, but it’s never the same as your former self.

R172 I don't think she claimed to have cancer. She claimed to have the same cancer gene that her mother and aunt had. They both died of cancer. She had the body parts most likely to become cancerous removed. I always thought part of the reason she got the mastectomy was to explain the boob job. She went to big. Maybe they would look more proportional if she weren't so skinny. I've heard some anorexics get boob jobs in an effort to hide their extreme thinness. Menopause causes ones metabolism to slow down. She shouldn't be loosing weight.

I think that as she gets older, sicker, crazier, and poorer, Maddox is going to be the one to stay with her as the other kids rebel, freak out, or get lives of their own. He's the only one that got to experience a one-to-one mother and child bond, in a chaotic and dysfunctional life, he's likely to want to hold onto the experience of real bonded love.

Plus, since he's got a poor relationship with the wealthy and well-connected Pitt, he's got no education, and he's not good-looking, Hollywood isn't going to come begging and he's not going to have a lot of other options. Yeah, being a rich kid can suck sometimes.

The word to describe that house is "gracious".

Im not sure that I believe that she ever had the surgeries (at least the hysterectomy) I think that she’s a serious opiate addict and too vain to put herself through early menopause on top of the drug addiction . It’s drugs and anorexia and plastic surgeries with angular facial implants that are aging her , imho . The cancer stuff was for PR and sympathy , is my guess .

r49 seems to think Angelina Jolie is the soul of economy, moderation, meant health and stability.

LMFAO.

*mental health