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Fadi Fawaz Saga XVI

28 months and counting after George Michael's death, but still lots of unresolved questions. Just loads of rumors and the occasional tabloid story.

by Anonymousreply 600October 25, 2018 2:50 AM

Who the heck is this Chris Antoniou George Michael’s cousin? He’s saying GM’s duet with Aretha is one of his worst songs. This is the same guy who sold a story with the Mirror last year right? So cringeworthy

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by Anonymousreply 1August 25, 2018 10:05 PM

George was the most attractive of that whole family. That is one ugly guy.

by Anonymousreply 2August 25, 2018 10:12 PM

[R2] I don't believe he is related to George. Because on his YouTube page he repost something from Andros site. Andros had it removed as if this person was a fan. So, I think he is just a fan.

by Anonymousreply 3August 26, 2018 6:02 PM

Part of the spat between Fadi and Keiran on FB was taken as a screenshot and posted on Twitter. What was the reason for that fight and does somebody have a screenshot of the full convo?

by Anonymousreply 4August 26, 2018 9:04 PM

R4 Keiran posted one of the Sun article and believed it and attacked Fadi. Fadi was calm at first then exploded. It is in Keiran’s FB but it is a private post. I have read the full argument.

by Anonymousreply 5August 26, 2018 10:36 PM

Two gigolos arguing about who was George better whore. I just can't with those two users.

by Anonymousreply 6August 27, 2018 1:12 AM

Transcript of the Red Line interview with Kristy Young that was aired last November

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by Anonymousreply 7August 27, 2018 10:59 AM

Transcript of Red Line part 2

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by Anonymousreply 8August 27, 2018 11:45 AM

The transcripts are difficult to read even more than listening to it. I remember listening to the interview on YouTube before it was taken down. It was sad and he sounded like he was medicated.

by Anonymousreply 9August 27, 2018 12:50 PM

R7 R8 Thank you. The audio was hard to hear because of the music in the background so this is appreciated

by Anonymousreply 10August 27, 2018 8:27 PM

I'm sure Fadi's got something on George's family (esp his sister Melanie). I have a feeling something fishy happened around the time G has passed that has to do with the family and Gm's death. This would explain the family's behavior after George passed.

by Anonymousreply 11August 28, 2018 6:13 AM

11. I don't think he has something on gm sisters. I do beleive he knows quiet a lot about gm his health issues and other stuffs we as fans do not know. They can't kick him out because he might run his mouth and do more damage. He already stated that gm killed himself. Now think of what more he might state to the tabloid for money. It might be explosive.

by Anonymousreply 12August 28, 2018 1:28 PM

The family deserve privacy just because they have been silent does not mean fadi has something on them. They are trying to protect their yog and make sure fadi doesn't do the damage to George legacy. We don't know what fadi knows he might know more extremely damaging information about George.

by Anonymousreply 13August 28, 2018 1:34 PM

What else could Fadi know? Saying GM killed himself was explosive already -- and someone had to deny it yet Fadi remains as is. What else could Fadi throw at them?

I think y'all are barking at the wrong tree as to why Fadi is still at Regent Park. It's been what, 20 months, and nothing has changed.

Guess y'all need to start accepting he will be there forever, which could only mean one thing: some arrangements were made either by George or his lawyers that allow Fadi to be there on the property.

by Anonymousreply 14August 28, 2018 3:12 PM

I do believe there are some things that we don't know and I don't think we should want to know. Fadi is allowed to stay at the regent to keep his trap shut.

by Anonymousreply 15August 28, 2018 4:30 PM

Believe all you want. I can't say much & things will come out sooner or later. All I can say is the family is not a saint like ppl are trying to portrait them (regardless of being disrespectful to and not care about GM's fans, that's a different story).

by Anonymousreply 16August 28, 2018 11:58 PM

R16 Your English is not getting any better Fadi.

by Anonymousreply 17August 29, 2018 12:23 PM

14. Is a fadi fangurl.

by Anonymousreply 18August 29, 2018 1:32 PM

Does anyone know this clown? Claims he knows George and Fadi, yet I have never seen a photo of him with GM at all or any mention anywhere. Announced repeatedly he will tell the "truth" on Fadi... yet said nothing. Even claiming he's the reason Fadi left Twitter *eye roll*.

Me thinks another cunt pretending to know something. Deranged fans come in all sorts of varieties

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by Anonymousreply 19August 29, 2018 2:57 PM

R119 According to Twitter Scotty Valentine was a former talent relations manager, MTV UK

by Anonymousreply 20August 29, 2018 3:32 PM

R20 Yeah, and I'm the life coach of George Michael. Or even the widow!

Can't find any trace of that guy in MTV UK. No mention at all. No Linkedin. No sign of hobnobbing with celebs on his FB either, and no mentions or pics of GM on his FB and Twitter. I'd say that guy is not legit. Just wants some noise on the business he is launching

by Anonymousreply 21August 29, 2018 4:16 PM

How did he attract so many shady people fans of otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 22August 29, 2018 5:40 PM

The IntelliGossip lady who would respond to every post Fadi made on Twitter, Instagram and FB and was his cheerleader no longer does that. Maybe when he was drugged/intoxicated he attacked her on Twitter. When she said something nice and supportive, Fadi lashed out at her and said how do you know, are you the hacker. So she know longer posts supporting him. Fadi is back on FB and Insta again. He cant help himself. Closes account for a few days and then comes back.

This whole incident with the IG lady showed the character of Fadi. Under the influence of something he behaves erratically and does those raging tweets at odd hours and he turns on anybody close to him and lashes out at them eventually. He was probably very subservient to GM at the beginning to get close to him. But his short-tempered, self-centered personality would have come out in time. Given how this guy behaves on SM, one can only imagine how he is in person. George misread him and the stories about several breakups is probably true. But by 2015 and the Swiss rehab, GM was lonely and in desperate need of somebody to be with him and took him back.

The price of him letting issues unresolved and having this guy around has created this mess for the family. Except for a few GM fans, a lot of people saw through this guy from the beginning. They did not buy his I was 24/7 with George and I was a loving partner and I am the grieving widow now. With all his recent posts hating GM and really vile when directed at a dead person, exposes Fadi for what he always was. He was around for the money and the comfortable life. He knew many secrets about GM including all his serious health issues. He was sticking around waiting for a big payoff. Now that it has not happened, he is thrashing around with rage and hate.

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by Anonymousreply 23August 29, 2018 10:22 PM

R23 Yo matey! You missed the part that Fadi deleted that nasty tweet to IG. Heard that apologies were made and misunderstandings were cleared ¯_(ツ)_/¯

by Anonymousreply 24August 30, 2018 12:44 AM

Just sad how George started out and how it then all crashed and burned. I think being gay was very very hard on him but mostly he was probably genetically predisposed to be addicted. My guess is that there were a lot of bad alcoholics in his family. He was destined to be an alcoholic and a druggie. He would have had to really work hard and be committed to overcome it.

by Anonymousreply 25August 30, 2018 1:00 AM

R25 Agree. Wonder what problems the sisters deal with also in their private lives. They got the same set of genes as GM and must be pre-disposed to addiction and depression also. Only in George's case fame and the spotlight made it worse. But people seem to think the sisters are living a normal and comfortable life and dealing with GM Estate and related problems is the only thing in their lives. They are not married and dont have children. But that does not mean they do not have a life of their own. Yioda is working as a Psychologist. Dont know what Melanie does now. Jack remarried and we dont know what type of relationship the sisters have with the step-mother and her family. A lot of fans assume they have nothing else to do and keep saying why arent they doing this and that.

by Anonymousreply 26August 30, 2018 1:49 AM

R16. It’s so tiresome having to read these faux-insider “I know things posts. “

It’s the same two people every time in every thread.

by Anonymousreply 27August 30, 2018 2:14 AM

He was given the house or allowed to stay in the house with no end date on purpose or through a loophole.

It’s money to actually support the life of having that house that he’s missing. Not sustainable. He’s 45 or 6 now, getting paunchy and looks older than his age and totally smelly and unkempt. . He has no prospects so he will milk this for all it’s worth.

Its why he’s losing his mind about George being “cheap”. He has no cash. This will be a long slow torture of him bopping in and out of instagram and Twitter and leaking all the family secrets to the media.

No one really cares. He gets money for his tabloid articles but if you skim the comments sections of those articles, no one even bothers except a few hard core fans. He’s not as important as he thinks.

by Anonymousreply 28August 30, 2018 2:25 AM

R28 Another one totally clueless how paid media works

by Anonymousreply 29August 30, 2018 2:29 AM

29. If he was given the house it was probably a way to get him to shut his mouth. There will be conditions of what he can't blarb to the media.

by Anonymousreply 30August 30, 2018 2:45 AM

[R 30] Depends on whó has given F the house...If it's the family who allows him 2 stay there regardless of G's will they must have a good reason & yes, probably 2 make sure he shuts his mouth but if on the other hand it was was G himself who left the RPhouse to F in his will then it's a different story &then the family can only hópe he keeps his mouth shut!Knowing how the family must despise him that's a big dilemma.They're probably fighting the will& they're not so sure at all that F will forever stay silent about the familys secrets as there are obviously plenty of!They just can't fathom F&néver could in the past either which is at the same thing their anger&the reason why they never supported F after G's death&never will in the future! I'm sure F knows every detail of what has been happening in the last few years of G 's life as for his health,his struggle with addiction ànd the disturbed/alienated relation with his (close)family&friends(even with David) As G's team&environment had lost their grip on their "Yog"in the last year,although they continued 2 tell fairytales about G in the media(going on about his better health&a planned comeback)the way F's now pictured as the scapegoat who's to blame for everything that went wrong in G's last years on this earth on social media&in the tabloids is playing in their favor&I believe they will do just ànything to keep it this way as long as possible!(inclusive using marginal&dubious"familymembers"to their advantage) However,I believe that the truth about the manipulations&cover up actions of the,by some considered as holy family&some friends,will emerge eventually!!

by Anonymousreply 31August 30, 2018 8:24 AM

Send love to Kirsty Young ♥️

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by Anonymousreply 32August 30, 2018 11:21 AM

I don't think George will give fadi the house. From what we know they were not a solid couple anymore, the guy slept in his car the night George was found dead. Why would he leave one of his property to his paid whore. It does not make sense even if he threatened him. What I think is happening is that the family are letting him stay so he doesn't do anymore damage like running his mouth to the tabloid. I still have a feeling in the future he will tell all in a book or an exclusive interview. He needs the money and will do what is best for him.

by Anonymousreply 33August 30, 2018 1:21 PM

Posting this here just to anger the Fadi haters

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by Anonymousreply 34August 30, 2018 1:28 PM

One is dead, one is running his mouth about how much he hates his dead lover and the other does not say shit. Go away fad i fangurl.

by Anonymousreply 35August 30, 2018 1:48 PM

R33 .. come back here in a year and you will see Fadi still living in Regent Park. With such high powered lawyers, how can they not kick him out?

Oh because of blackmail. Yeah right ... that’s kinda getting old now.

by Anonymousreply 36August 30, 2018 2:34 PM

36. You are a fadi fangurl and you can fuck off. By the way you are too old to be sucking on fadi nut.

by Anonymousreply 37August 30, 2018 3:23 PM

R37 and you are a nasty cunt hater. Fuck off into the sunset for all I care

by Anonymousreply 38August 30, 2018 3:30 PM

38 still sucking on fadi nuts still it falls off. Good job. I am not the one worshipping the whore of the death popstar. You are a whore worshipper.

by Anonymousreply 39August 30, 2018 3:57 PM

R39 and you are the fucking nut job who has not given any worthwhile contribution to this thread. Go back to your grandchildren or scrub your pussy one more time as I can smell your stink. You are now on ignore as I can’t be bothered with trolls like you

by Anonymousreply 40August 30, 2018 4:10 PM

R34 That photo is very early in the relationship during the Symphonica tour before George even got sick. All downhill from there.

by Anonymousreply 41August 30, 2018 11:18 PM

R29 another loser who makes no sense

by Anonymousreply 42August 31, 2018 2:20 AM

40. you are the one that needs to be ignored since you worship George whore. You told on yourself. Learn how to write a good shade because you suck at it. You write like an immature 15 year old girl.

by Anonymousreply 43August 31, 2018 3:31 AM

Imagine being a paid whore's fangirl so sad

by Anonymousreply 44August 31, 2018 3:35 AM

R44 Only fools like you think Fadi pays people

by Anonymousreply 45August 31, 2018 11:06 AM

45. Fadi the whore has no money to pay you to go all the way for him. I am sure when fadi blocks you on his Twitter page you will probably stroke out since you have whored yourself out for him. Hang in there it won't take long.

by Anonymousreply 46August 31, 2018 1:01 PM

R46 learn how to post and direct a comment

by Anonymousreply 47August 31, 2018 1:26 PM

For those of you who believe Fadi is a whore, do you believe him to be retired or is he currently taking clients? Asking for a friend of mine.

by Anonymousreply 48August 31, 2018 1:29 PM

47. I am surprised you can type without stroking out.

by Anonymousreply 49August 31, 2018 1:46 PM

If the price is right I am sure he won't turn down your friend. The whore needs money since he can't buy milk. Your friend might be able to get him for cheap.

by Anonymousreply 50August 31, 2018 1:49 PM

R50. My friend is also wondering if Fadi takes coupons?

by Anonymousreply 51August 31, 2018 1:59 PM

[quote] He has no prospects so he will milk this for all it’s worth.

Fadi is a much sought after hairdresser, with numerous celebrity clients.

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by Anonymousreply 52August 31, 2018 2:35 PM

Who are the celebrity clients. You are funny and deranged. The whore appreciates your help maybe you can send him some money since he can't afford to buy milk. Bitch hasn't worked in years since he found his mealticket and now that he is dead. He has to keep doing what he is really famous for, sucking dick on camera or find a new sugardaddy.

by Anonymousreply 53August 31, 2018 3:06 PM

This thread has gone down hill big time. See what happens when you bitch at people because they want to discuss George’s talent and his career history and not his private life and the likes of FF.

Someone gets up on the wrong side of the bed every morning.

by Anonymousreply 54August 31, 2018 3:58 PM

Same as Anselmo the "dress designer".

by Anonymousreply 55August 31, 2018 4:00 PM

55. And Kenny the "Art Dealer."

by Anonymousreply 56August 31, 2018 7:05 PM

R55 and R56 George just had a rather nasty habit of dating whores, didn't he?

BTW Fadi's hair looks like shit for a supposed hair stylist.

by Anonymousreply 57August 31, 2018 10:49 PM

David sure did enjoy playing the guitar in this video.

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by Anonymousreply 58September 1, 2018 3:49 AM

George dated Whores & golddiggers. Not sure what David's roll was.

by Anonymousreply 59September 1, 2018 4:12 AM

George was 6feet tall and he is dwarfed by fadi in that picture with kate moss. How tall is this man. He must be gigantic.

by Anonymousreply 60September 1, 2018 4:28 AM

Fadi - top or not?

by Anonymousreply 61September 1, 2018 4:29 AM

R61 Who cares!?

R50 The whore needs money

but no one wants an old whore

by Anonymousreply 62September 1, 2018 5:24 AM

This I think is a very good quote from George from the Red Line interview.

I think George is alluding to his decision to lay low and live a quiet life in Goring in this quote.

[quote]And if I’m really honest, I think some things somebody some entity wasn’t ready to let me have a full life. I still had to make more records. I still had to find the next creative step and it was almost as though it was a choice. It was: do you find your place in life and your place with a partner/lover; or do you just carry on down this road to the next great achievement? And I made the choice eventually for the former.

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by Anonymousreply 63September 1, 2018 7:54 PM

R62 is a killjoy trying to control the narrative. Frau.

This thread is zero fun now.

by Anonymousreply 64September 1, 2018 11:08 PM

64. What do you want to discuss. Let me guess either how much you find fadi sexy or you want to post endless pictures of George and bore us.

by Anonymousreply 65September 2, 2018 4:21 AM

No r65 (as you continue to berate others). Find one fucking post since I started reading this series where I have don’t that. You won’t. It’s assholes like you who add nothing and berate everything that have made this a dusty cobweb thread. Enjoy yourself. Maybe post posing as multiple people too. You’ll need to as you’re making it so you’re the only one left. Boi -bye!

by Anonymousreply 66September 2, 2018 4:46 PM

66. Why are you defensive Felicia. Is it because I called you out for been the loon who loves posting 100th George photos all over any threads that has something to do with his name. I know you want to gush about how sexy he was over and over again by posting endless pictures.

by Anonymousreply 67September 2, 2018 6:56 PM

Just saw this on Twitter, don't know how true it is.

Laura Jane Williams I heard from a pretty solid source that George Michael left £25 million to each of his five godchildren, with the caveat that they couldn't access it until they purchased their first house on their own. I can't stop thinking about how fucking awesome that is. 7 replies 25 retweets 377 likes

Replying to @superlativelyLJ

I guess we could presume his Godchildren are from more privileged backgrounds - and parents own homes in places where they could work in their chosen career and live rent free, which obviously a makes all the difference.

Laura Jane Williams

For me he was able to pass on legacy whilst protecting value system of people given to. £25 mil would ruin many people’s lives. working towards a house, even with privilege, means equipping them with the knowledge of how to do that (it otherwise wouldn’t) imperfect but thoughtful

Laura ‏You summed up perfectly why I like the idea. It’s probably just my...sensitivity(?) of the reality of what this would mean for those without a certain level of privilege, and that’s before you even get to the £25mil! 🙈

Kelly ‏ I think one of his godchildren is James Kennedy from the tv show Vanderpump Rules. I get the impression that his family don’t have a lot of wealth.

Laura ‏Replying to @superlativelyLJ

I want to like this, because of the message. But... also, like... how? How can people afford houses on their own? I’ll never own a house because rent is so high, and wages haven’t risen comparatively. There’s no way to save for a deposit. I just don’t understand?

Hayley ‏ Kinda ironically the only people my age I know who’ve been able to buy houses have had inheritance 0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes

by Anonymousreply 68September 3, 2018 3:28 AM

Who is Laura Jane Williams.?

I doubt this twitter story. I don’t think he’d put a condition like that on the money. It’s kind of a if you’re rich I will make you richer stipulation. I don’t thing he was that way. He’s want to help people that need it. Maybe an age condition but not that you have to buy property first. In London that could be next to impossible unless you inherit money. . I also doubt andros’ son would be getting money. I think the whole thing of George and his godchildren is super exaggerated. Other than the Kemp kids who were in his life, I don’t think he was over the top with feeling any great sense of responsibility toward them.

But I’ve also always doubted that he was still worth over 100m . Even he said he was worth a fraction of that. Over his entire career maybe. So even the amount of 25m being divided up among god children is sketchy to me.

I’m more inclined to believe the more recent reports that most is going to his sisters, his charities and some loyal staff members.

Again, who is this person claiming this anyway.

by Anonymousreply 69September 3, 2018 3:56 AM

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by Anonymousreply 70September 3, 2018 4:02 AM

^wrong person both authors and same name though. Sounds like bs.

by Anonymousreply 71September 3, 2018 4:06 AM

That story sounds like rubbish. He hadn't seen Andro's boys in over 2 decades and he despised Andros so no.

by Anonymousreply 72September 3, 2018 1:52 PM

How will a fanatic know. There is a reason most celebs keep those people further away from them. They are mentally unbalanced people who create lies. They only use them to sell their albums and want nothing to do with those loons afterwards. It is like thanks for spending your money on my songs now please go away.

by Anonymousreply 73September 3, 2018 2:15 PM

George Michael left £25 million to each of his five godchildren = £125 million ?? where was there that much money left in the GM Estate? I doubt if there was even £25 million left after the inheritance to the sisters, charities etc

by Anonymousreply 74September 3, 2018 4:14 PM

R73 It's called music business.

by Anonymousreply 75September 3, 2018 8:30 PM

The godchildren inheritance thing was flying around in the days after he died. Baseless then and just being regurgitated by some frau who is trying to keep her Twitter interesting, but isn’t actually in the know.

by Anonymousreply 76September 3, 2018 11:51 PM

75. I know it is the music business. I just wonder why celebs attract so many damaged people as fans. Maybe it has to do with the fact that they are damaged themselves. It is like a mirror reflection.

by Anonymousreply 77September 4, 2018 1:01 PM

Andros' story on Insta today. Is he planning on releasing the album? Something is up ...

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by Anonymousreply 78September 5, 2018 4:15 PM

R78 Is he planning on finishing the songs? The Trojan Souls video of George Michael and friends is now on YouTube. It must have been recently posted. It is definitely worth watching if you are a George Michael fan.

by Anonymousreply 79September 5, 2018 4:53 PM

Do you mean the making of Trojan Souls video? That was online since Jan 2017

by Anonymousreply 80September 5, 2018 5:06 PM

The video has been up for a while. Why would Andros have sole rights to the CD/music though? Can he really release it without the permission of the estate?

by Anonymousreply 81September 6, 2018 12:23 AM

Trojan Souls was produced by Warner Bros. and Hardback Ltd (Andros' outfit, which also produced the Boogie Box High ‎– Jive Talkin' of which GM was the uncredited vocals)

by Anonymousreply 82September 6, 2018 9:40 PM

The Man Who Defaced an Australian George Michael Mural Has to Pay Up $14,000

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by Anonymousreply 83September 7, 2018 7:44 AM

^^^ happy to hear that. Pig.

by Anonymousreply 84September 7, 2018 4:14 PM

So Andros was bitchslapped by a psychic!

Interesting bit in the article is that it was Andros who tried to ban Fadi.

[quote]However, alarmed Sally turned the request down. Andros had already courted controversy after the singer’s death by blaming his cousin’s demise on drugs (George actually died from heart and liver disease) and by trying to ban George’s ex-boyfriend Fadi Fawaz from the funeral.

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by Anonymousreply 85September 7, 2018 7:04 PM

Correct link

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by Anonymousreply 86September 7, 2018 7:06 PM

How could Andros ban Fadi from GM's funeral? He was banned himself.

by Anonymousreply 87September 7, 2018 11:32 PM

Is that there way of trying to stay relevant? I’m beginning to think they are all crazy.

by Anonymousreply 88September 8, 2018 1:46 AM

R87 were you living under a rock that you didn’t know Fadi was at funeral? That he arrived to the funeral in a car with the paper number sign displayed on dashboard?

by Anonymousreply 89September 8, 2018 10:58 AM

You r89 completely misunderstood. The person r87 didn’t write what you are bitchslapping them for. Calm yourself down and learn to properly read. AnDROS was banned dummy. Not fadi. The person said how could Andros ban FADI when ANdROS was banned himself.

by Anonymousreply 90September 8, 2018 1:07 PM

R89 Thankyou. That's exactly what I wrote.

by Anonymousreply 91September 8, 2018 1:14 PM

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by Anonymousreply 92September 10, 2018 4:09 PM

George and most really famous pop stars know how to attract them as fans. Lets be honest damaged people are the only ones who have time on their hands to obessessively stalk or pay too much attention to what their favorite artist is up to.

by Anonymousreply 93September 11, 2018 2:04 PM

Don’t care that much but not sure why this loon was identified as a George Michael fan specifically. He stood outside michael’s home and stared but sounds like he did that to a bunch of the homes there? I get that memorial that lasted forever attracted it’s share of fanatics and the street was likely totally fed up, but it is gone now and has been for a while. That stretch is home to a ton of famous people. Why a George fan specifically? Maybe it was a loon who was jealous of all the posh people and their homes there. Who knows. And Jamie Oliver is a fame whore drama queen btw. Sounds like he went overboard. Let security - which he clearly had - do something. Eff off Jamie! Maybe it was a fan but I don’t see what led to that conclusion. Unless I missed something when I read the article. Can’t be bothered going back to it.

by Anonymousreply 94September 12, 2018 2:10 AM

Fadi Fawaz Saga continues ........

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by Anonymousreply 95September 12, 2018 3:39 AM

Fadi Fawaz IS BACK!

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by Anonymousreply 96September 12, 2018 3:41 AM

Unfortunately gm is the one to blame for picking this street hustler as his official boyfriend. We can hate fadi but the person who brought this one himself his dead. By the way he has a lot of nerve stating the money is dirty while living in his home and wanting a share of said dirty money.

by Anonymousreply 97September 12, 2018 1:46 PM

What a bastard this Fadi Fawaz is. Totally has shown his true colors now. All that crap about being in love and being with his partner 24/7 has been blown to pieces by all his repeated rants. He lacks any basic decency. Just because he did not get the money he craves, he now calls the man who was supposedly his lover all kinds of horrible names and says he committed suicide. George unfortunately spent his last years with whores with the most lowly and horrible character. That was what he had descended to and now his family has been left with this huge mess to deal with.

There is a special place in hell for people like Fadi Fawaz.

by Anonymousreply 98September 12, 2018 4:02 PM

Paul Stag in need of some money or what. Sold his story to the Sun and now to another tab a year later. I think we all know what George was up to. He blew just $1.2 mill on whores? Probably 10 times that. The reason why such an intelligent and talented man decided to destroy himself in such a manner for years he has now taken to his grave. Leave that man alone you whores who took his money

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by Anonymousreply 99September 12, 2018 4:10 PM

21 months, dear

by Anonymousreply 100September 12, 2018 4:13 PM

^ok dear

by Anonymousreply 101September 12, 2018 4:28 PM

The veteran escort said he met Michael through a gay magazine in 2004 — and the Wham! star was so terrified his passion for gay prostitutes would be exposed that he wore a ski mask during the first three years of their torrid romps.

“He wore a disguise and I had no idea it was him,” Stag, 49, told Radar. “So he was just like an average Joe to me. It didn’t register it was George Michael!”

Is this even possible> Would they not have sex at a certain location which would give away who the person was. Ski Mask for 3 years??

by Anonymousreply 102September 12, 2018 5:59 PM

Let’s not forget he was also his drug dealer. Shameful excuse for a human being.

by Anonymousreply 103September 13, 2018 10:48 AM

Here is another rant from an abominable excuse of a human being called Fadi Fawaz. What the hell is he even talking about. How is GM preventing him from going and seeing his sick mother. If he thinks GMs money is dirty which we all know it is not, then why is he living illegally in his house. The time has come for George's family to throw this guy on the streets regardless of the consequences

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by Anonymousreply 104September 13, 2018 12:08 PM

Sickening rant part 2

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by Anonymousreply 105September 13, 2018 12:09 PM

R104 R105 You just have no clue whatsoever. Sorry, but you are lacking background information which make Fadi's "rants" perfectly reasonable. Well, his somewhat outlandish use of the English language doesn't help, I must admit. But the conclusions you draw from fake news and fabricated facts just goes into the totally wrong direction. And no: I will not enlighten you, because what you think is irrelevant anyway.

by Anonymousreply 106September 13, 2018 1:12 PM

R106 First of all you are anonymous. Second of all I would like to be enlightened. I am not taking George’s family’s side or Fadi’s side.

George had an amazing career when you factor all the crap he dealt with either brought on by himself or with those he surrounded himself by. I have no idea what the status of his relationship with his family or Fadi was on December 26, 2016. I have read the rumors the same as everyone else. George tried to end his relationship with Fadi eighteen months earlier. Did he? Fadi was on George’s payroll. Fadi has papers regarding George’s health, Fadi has some type of document that would entitled Fadi to the house he was living in not the house where George lived, Fadi slept in the car, Fadi found George dead on Christmas Day, oh no wait, he found him dead on Christmas Eve (George’s mother’s birthday), George died of natural causes, oh wait, George committed suicide. Yes, you are correct Fadi does have issues with the English language. Fadi’s social media has been hacked. Fadi’s rants justified or not is something he is in full control of. Fadi needs to learn how to control his emotions, good and bad. The more he acts out the worse he looks. Truly it makes Fadi look as if he loves the drama and the attention. If Fadi for some reason is entitled to a portion of George’s estate he should be handling it in a private professional manner. If he didn’t learn anything else from George he should know George was involved in his all of his business dealings and handled his finances privately including his philanthropy. Fadi feeding the trolls doesn’t help him in any way. Then on the other hand you have George Michael’s family handling the matter in an entirely different manner. Mums the word from their end. If Fadi is trying to pull one over on George’s family shame on him. They have had enough to deal with through this ordeal.

I hate to say this but Fadi acts very similar to Trump! Fake news and lies. So set us straight once and for all. Instead of every so often dropping in with the your negative attitude and comments. Otherwise keep your redundant comments to yourself. People will either look at FF differently or in the same light.

In either case George’s family deserves closure.

by Anonymousreply 107September 13, 2018 3:58 PM

R106 = the same loser who floats in acting like an insider - but isn’t.

by Anonymousreply 108September 13, 2018 10:10 PM

R104 and 105. Can anyone screen shot this? It keeps saying failed to load. Maybe he took it down from Instagram?

by Anonymousreply 109September 13, 2018 10:12 PM

What about GM's secret wife and son?????

by Anonymousreply 110September 13, 2018 10:14 PM

R110 Oh nooooo!! Please! Don't ruin this thread with this crap. R104 and R105 Did you save the text of his rant? The link is broken. It seems he deleted his post.

by Anonymousreply 111September 14, 2018 7:02 AM

R110. Please go away and create your own thread with your psychosis. Don't bring it here trolling.

by Anonymousreply 112September 14, 2018 12:43 PM

R108 You don't know who's posting here, and some do have a real insiders knowledge

You have dismissed the tweet before of Fadi that he has an unreleased album of George.

Yesterday, Fadi did a live video on Insta where he played a different unheard version of a George song. It was a short live video where he played only a snippet of the song, but it was a totally different arrangement.

by Anonymousreply 113September 14, 2018 1:27 PM

R108 You don’t know who’s posting here, and some do have real insider’s knowledge

You have dismissed the tweet before of Fadi that he has an unreleased album of George. He did a live video on Insta where he played a different unheard version of a George song. Fresh material

by Anonymousreply 114September 14, 2018 1:33 PM

Sorry did a double post. First post did not show up initially

by Anonymousreply 115September 14, 2018 2:00 PM

R114 I agree, some of us here have more knowledge than the others, even I do. It's not all about Fadi. Believe it or not ppl, it's your choice... I guess fadi's live insta video was super short cuz I clicked it not long after I was notified and it was already over..

by Anonymousreply 116September 14, 2018 4:01 PM

What is the status with Kenny Goss these days? Is he still in the mix for wanting something from George’s estate?

by Anonymousreply 117September 14, 2018 9:48 PM

R109 R111 Below is a link to all the screen shots of FF's latest rants courtesy of The "Daily Star." If I didn't know better it sounds as if George is still alive and doing is best to destroy FF - which sounds like revenge to me.

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by Anonymousreply 118September 15, 2018 1:51 AM

Then please do share your insider knowledge r114 - you have yet to actually share anything that isn’t already in the news.

by Anonymousreply 119September 15, 2018 3:41 AM

Yes, please enlighten us on your inside knowledge. FF never seems to disappoint. Does FF feel the need to act out in order to stay relevant or is he he just not all there?

by Anonymousreply 120September 15, 2018 7:58 AM

R119 Oh I didn't know that Fadi having an unreleased album of GM was in the news. Guess I need to catch up on the tabloids. Unlike you, I don't rely on them for my "news."

I have shared a lot in this forum. The Kenny tax records? Those are my posts. And a whole lot others. Go back to older threads to see (oh, of course, you can't be bothered to read older threads). How about you, have you shared anything that's not from gossip in the tabloids?

by Anonymousreply 121September 15, 2018 1:53 PM

Y'all couldn't tell R110 was a joke by all the extra question marks? ???????

by Anonymousreply 122September 15, 2018 1:58 PM

Don't feed the trolls

by Anonymousreply 123September 15, 2018 2:23 PM

R122 Thank you for sharing truthful information with us regarding George Michael and those that had been around him. I have read a fair share of the older threads and I have learned quite a lot. There certainly is a price to pay for being wealthy and famous for the celebrity and those around him/her. I can’t even begin to imagine what George’s life would have been like if social media existed in the 80s. Not so sure he would have lived to see 40. Each celebrity has their own story but George was still very protective, caring and hiding his truth in the 80s. He got more public as he got a older and more exposed. (No play on words intended.)

by Anonymousreply 124September 15, 2018 2:45 PM

I’d buy Fadi. He looks like a monster fuck and he’s hot as shit.

by Anonymousreply 125September 15, 2018 4:33 PM

R125. Just gross. You are attracted to hideous street hustlers.

by Anonymousreply 126September 15, 2018 6:54 PM

R126 isn't even attracted to MEN.

Fadi is fucking HOT!

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by Anonymousreply 127September 15, 2018 6:56 PM

R127. I am a straight woman idiot. At least I don't have horrid taste in men. You clearly have no standard when it comes to men.

by Anonymousreply 128September 15, 2018 7:02 PM

R128 So I guess GM has no standard when it comes to men and has a horrid taste in men. Too bad for you ... your idol thought differently

by Anonymousreply 129September 15, 2018 7:23 PM

R129. Unfortunately gm had terrible taste in men. Most of his so called boyfriends are golddigging whores. It is quiet pathetic you are a fan of this middle-aged golddigging whore. Have some respect for yourself.

by Anonymousreply 130September 15, 2018 8:36 PM

R130 i pity you fools. You have no idea how much George adored Fadi. You don’t even know them, nor seen how they were together (and yes I have)

by Anonymousreply 131September 15, 2018 9:23 PM

I can't believe y'all even talk to these insipid women who are here. What a waste of time.

by Anonymousreply 132September 15, 2018 9:27 PM

I don’t find anything about Fadi hot. He has a nose bigger than his face and he always looks unkept and dirty. Personally I think George’s taste in men sucked. Then again if we were all attracted to the same person what fun would that be. Personally I prefer blue eyes!

by Anonymousreply 133September 16, 2018 12:00 AM

R131 and R132 Are you both just naturally negative and unhappy people?

by Anonymousreply 134September 16, 2018 12:02 AM

R133 Is that your contribution to the discussion? LOL ... yeah, valuable input!

by Anonymousreply 135September 16, 2018 1:26 AM

R134 and 135. Stop sucking fadi cock. It is embarrassing as you keep defending this street hustler. have some self respect and dignity.

by Anonymousreply 136September 16, 2018 1:37 AM

r136 straight woman idiot troll needs to be blocked. troll with no gray matter between her ears. cunt

by Anonymousreply 137September 16, 2018 3:17 AM

Fadi and Andros were grifters. Kenny was a gold digger. None of them were intelligent which is what surprises me the most as George was so bright. Hard to sustain a relationship when your partner is dumber than a box of rocks. I use "relationship" and "partner" loosely.

by Anonymousreply 138September 16, 2018 1:01 PM

R138 George had to be in control. George wouldn’t be able to control a confident man that was level headed, mature and wouldn’t put up with any crap. George was intelligent and bright but to live the lifestyle he wanted an equal “relationship/partner” would never have tolerated his behavior. A man that wasn’t impressed by his fame and money would never fit the bill. George kind of lost control of his career. I guess the only way he could be in control was by the likes of a Kenny or Fadi. Nothing personally against either one. George introduced them to a lifestyle of the rich and famous. I find it interesting that the three main relationships George had not one was from the U.K.

by Anonymousreply 139September 16, 2018 1:31 PM

R137. At least I am not capping for a middle-aged whore. Of course you will want to block me cry baby.

by Anonymousreply 140September 16, 2018 1:45 PM

So true R139

by Anonymousreply 141September 18, 2018 4:01 PM

r138. I enjoyed GM’s music, but I’m interested how you conclude he desired control. So much of his personal behavior was erratic: drugs, alcohol, public cruising, the car accidents. These seem to be in conflict with someone who sought control. What were your direct observations of his control mechanisms? I don’t dispute you may well be correct, as many addicts establish compensating mechanisms - and you may offer unusual insights.

by Anonymousreply 142September 19, 2018 1:33 AM

I'd say love was a magical flame

I'd say love could keep us from pain

Had I been there, had I been there.

I would promise you all of my life

But to lose you would cut like a knife

So I don't dare, no I don't dare.

And if all that there is is this

Fear of being used

I should go back to being lonely and confused

If I could, I would,

I swear.

by Anonymousreply 143September 19, 2018 9:17 AM

Remember when Fadi went on Twitter and ranted at the DL Spaz Troll for comments made on one of these threads?

Good times.

by Anonymousreply 144September 19, 2018 9:22 AM

Actually r119 you fool. The tax record stuff was posted by over a year ago on the old gm forum. And I know who posted it. And by the way. I know exactly who you are. You aren’t as anonymous as you think. Again - you still have posted nothing of insider knowledge about George or fadi because you have none. Take your bully troll bullshit elsewhere. The end.

by Anonymousreply 145September 19, 2018 10:15 AM

^ that was meant for r121 not r119.

by Anonymousreply 146September 19, 2018 10:17 AM

Let’s get back to the topic at hand, people. No one needs insider knowledge about Fadi anymore- cause he’s falling apart right in front of us. The wheels have really come off the wagon now....

by Anonymousreply 147September 19, 2018 3:36 PM

R145 I know what I posted here you fool, and I posted those tax records on DL. I don't even go near your defunct gm forum. The 2016 tax records were made public by the IRS long after your forum was shut down. And I will post the 2017 tax records as soon as it is made public. So don't tell me what I posted in this forum. I have been here since the very beginning.

Now get off you troll

by Anonymousreply 148September 19, 2018 4:33 PM

R19 mentioned this freak Scotty Valentine

What is his deal? What's his agenda? He's been blabbing on Twitter, seeking the company of the most delusional lovelies and rabid Fadi haters

He claims to have insider knowledge of financial negotiations between GM family and Fadi (how would he even know?). He claims the lawyers have approached him ( though I think it is possibly like how Diana Foster has sent emails and letters to GM lawyer again and again, not the other way around).

And he believes Fadi is scared of him. Yet no one knows who this freak is among Fadi's circles.

No photo of him and GM or Fadi. He claims to be a friend of GM, but if he is a friend, surely he would post photos of him and GM. Even the manwhore Tovak posted photos of him and GM!

This Scott is not even connected to any of them or any of their friends in social media. He has not even commented on any of Fadi's social media posts before all this, yet he claimed that he promised to help Fadi as long as he stays away from social media.

He loves to blab among the lovelies, but a lot of the things he claims can easily be shot down. Like his claim of a fake Fadi Instagram account, which posts very good English for it to be Fadi (he doesn't even know how bad Fadi's English is!) I have seen this guy's stories, and they are full of factual errors.

But who is this guy?

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by Anonymousreply 149September 19, 2018 5:08 PM

R149 Just another imposter seeking his 15 minutes of fame.

by Anonymousreply 150September 19, 2018 5:11 PM

The lovelies are already spreading Scott’s claim that Fadi was offered 1.5 million but he refused.

I thought the Sun said he has already been given £250,000.

So which is which? Can’t believe he would refuse £1.5 million yet accept £250K

by Anonymousreply 151September 19, 2018 5:23 PM

R142, George was a control freak in that he had to be the one with the power. He made the decisions and he wouldn't listen to anyone. Sadly, he also thought he was in control of the drugs and that he could control them. In many of his interviews he talked about how he was different to others in that he never lost control, that he knew his own limits. It seems however, that continuous controlled use of drugs still leads to ones demise by ruining the health gradually, both physical and mental.

by Anonymousreply 152September 19, 2018 5:36 PM

r152 so that’s repeating what you previously posted. But it’s not evidence. Evidence is factual: documents, corroborated conversations. I’m sure it’s tedious ground to keep covering, but it’s helpful if you have evidence.

I admit that’s a high barrier and potentially unfeasible for anyone not from an inner circle of any situation.

by Anonymousreply 153September 19, 2018 5:57 PM

R153 I didn't previously post anything! ?

by Anonymousreply 154September 19, 2018 11:34 PM

His FB not that it answers your question. scottyvalentine007

by Anonymousreply 155September 20, 2018 5:53 AM

R152 Oh FFS, stop repeating the saga that GM was a control freak! He might have been a perfectionist as far as his music was concerned and he might have loved to be perceived as the one who has everything under control! But most of all he deluded himself. He couldn't control a fake cousin and his extended family. Unauthorized recordings have been shared far and wide, pictures from photo shootings he was not happy with have been all over the place for years. His uncontrolled sex drive got him into trouble more than once and even into prison. Do you seriously believe he had his drug consumption under control??? No way! Did you forget about his car accidents and criminal convictions for driving under the influence? "He was not perfect and had his flaws as we all have." - say the lovelies. I can vividly image what his partners had to deal with behind closed doors and that was NOT relaxed, recreational drug consumption! I really pity them for what they had to put up with and for what THEY are ultimately blamed! - So where is the control aspect regarding the handling of affairs after his death? A total mess. No provisions made to go by. Just a greedy family and a corrupted "team" making the mess even worse. " He was indeed a fucked up icon. Fadi is speaking the truth, that nobody wants to hear. In how far this should affect his musical legacy is incomprehensible to me. But it kills the thoroughly fabricated image of a person with integrity and therefore FF is sentenced to death by the lovelies.

by Anonymousreply 156September 20, 2018 6:02 AM

R52 Your posts baffles me. Are you really a George Michael fan? You have stated “He was indeed a fucked up icon” as well as George’s “greedy family and a corrupted “team” making the mess even worse” and then there is “He couldn’t control a fake cousin and his extended family” or are you a friend of Fadi’s? “Fadi’s “rants” perfectly reasonable” really? I would ask if you were Fadi, however, your English and grammar are a little too perfect! You sure do enjoy bashing George. If I could find something positive to say about Fadi Fawaz I would but he never seems to disappoint with his rants and negative remarks towards a deceased man and his family. The bottom line is Fadi Fawaz doesn’t show any signs of ever being in love with George Michael but he sure loves his house and his money.

I realize the purpose of DL is “Pointless Bichery”, celebrity gossip and politics. You certainly fall under the category “Pointless Bichery”.

by Anonymousreply 157September 20, 2018 11:29 AM

R152. It seems you have no problem with fad i the street hustler stating that George money was dirty and he hates him while waiting for his share of the said dirty money and living in his mansion. fad i doesn't make things easier for himself by digging his own grave while running his mouth. You fadi fans are something else. I am not excusing George behaviors but fadi does not deserve benefit of the doubt.

by Anonymousreply 158September 20, 2018 1:48 PM

R156 Totally agree. The fans just say “we know George is not perfect” but then stops and canonizes him as their Saint George

by Anonymousreply 159September 20, 2018 4:45 PM

R159 A fucked up ikon is still an icon. That's exactly what the lovelies have been repeating like a mantra ever since: he had his flaws, but he was a genius. There's no difference in the meaning of both. But well, they create a drama for the drama's sake. They call themselves "lovelies" after all. That's the joke of the century.

by Anonymousreply 160September 20, 2018 7:49 PM

And yet they take the words of FF as facts...

by Anonymousreply 161September 20, 2018 8:05 PM

In the last thread, there were talks of George being bisexual. I didn't know if he admitted to that. But apparently, he did on the Parkinson interview in 1998

[quote]Carried on all through the first part of my career – by that time I knew I was bisexual, and basically, I’d had plenty of experience on both sides of the fence, as it were, but I had no emotional attachment, so I had nothing to attach my sexuality to. The day that I knew that I was gay was the day that I knew that I was in love with a man.

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by Anonymousreply 162September 21, 2018 10:35 AM

George Michael became a joke already in the last century, when he allowed his sexuality to dominate any discussion about himself and his life achievements. He's been a real joke ever since.

by Anonymousreply 163September 21, 2018 1:20 PM

R162. Give it up George is bisexual troll. You always come back to any thread with his name attached to it stating he was bi. It is tiresome. Move on even if he was alive you wouldn't stand a chance unless you have a penis.

by Anonymousreply 164September 21, 2018 2:19 PM

^ Bisexual part in the early years of my career was a bit of a spin GM put on things. In over 35 years no woman has ever came forward and said she slept with George. Unless you count that stupid Swedish woman Alpha and having his son troll story to be true. He was very attractive to women and many fancied him. but dont think he really had any affairs with women.

If you look back on his interviews especially after 1998 there is so much focus on his sexuality. He was a man with a voracious sexual appetite. The press asked him too many questions about his sexuality but he also spent a lot of time speaking about it. Sex and drugs ruined his career and life.

by Anonymousreply 165September 21, 2018 7:16 PM

R164 if you are not such an illiterate mongrel, you will see that the link was to the interview of George at the Parkinson show where he said he was bisexual early on. It’s on YouTube cunt. Search it up. For people with low IQ like you, you can read the transcript. Oh what am I saying, you’re an illiterate cunt who can’t read

by Anonymousreply 166September 21, 2018 7:31 PM

Really, do some of you live with bags over your heads?

There have been all kinds of patient attempts from persons actually belonging in DL to explain to the infest of straight, frigid dry lovelies how the man and his sexuality works, it puzzles me what you are doing in DL in the first place when you dismiss the fluidity of bi or gay men. Now I´ll explain it one more time in a way not even you can´t miss out on how it works, unless you are in complete denial. I will stick to the most common sexual acts, only physical aspects and am referring to men that have been on both sides of the fence, like GM, that will be enough for you. Warning, contain strong language for you.

As a man who had sexual encounters with both males and females and have friends who have done the same, it is clear the experiences are the same about the physical differences. If you as a man can get horny for both males and females, no matter your favourite, you will need both in your life to be satisfied, this is not something you can choose.

When it comes to the sex act, the male/male act is often, not always, more ruff and intense compared to the male/female act that is often, not always, softer, she is usually softer for a start.

Who is sucking the best, generally it is the men, they know what to do to give the most pleasure, but here is one exception, a rare one, a female that genuinely loves cock, because she has a softer movement in her jaws then the man and if she loves the man part, that makes her giving the ultimate blowjob.

All men don't do penetration, if they want to penetrate, this is the differences, if you are horny for the female part, to be inside her has the best feeling of it all. Some don't like the female parts and then it obviously won't work, but if you can get it up for a female and like it, inside her is where the best feeling is, the inside of a man doesn't compete with it even if that has a great feeling too.

In GM case, he did get it up and got horny for females in his life, that is something that won't change, and proves he did not have any problems with the female part or penetrating it and therefore he knew the difference in feeling. I have no doubt that he was gay, with a stroke of selective bi if you must, it is established it was only one special woman he was hot for and wanted to get inside of, you like it or not. As a grown up with his sexuality figured out, he still had this need for the ultimate feeling, that he only would get from a female, to GM this was connected exclusively to Alpha. That he equalled this part of his sexuality to a specific female is a natural response and nothing surprising, considering some other aspects of his life, it is the only natural response to expect, he knew his sexuality completely. Besides, there is a son in this, meaning GM obviously got to have the full feeling inside Alpha, the one you only get without using a condom, that makes a big difference to the whole thing, and made him sexually connect her to it, even more natural. I am certain he always used condoms with men after losing Anselmo and growing up in the AIDS era. No doubt he saw her as the ultimate fuck feeling giving him the extreme orgasms that only comes from that kind of sex and he wanted it, even if the rest of his sexual desires was towards men, he clearly needed both. 1(2) Cont.

by Anonymousreply 167September 21, 2018 7:44 PM

Cont. 2(2) If you are a man that can get hot for a woman you will get this, look at Alpha, her body, mouth, and supposed sex drive, GM extreme sex drive is no secret, so it had to be someone similar to keep him satisfied, making me sure she is one of the rare cock lovers that is the very best when there are no men with pussy feeling.

Sexuality is private and different to people, as long as you know what you need and get that, you are satisfied, calm and content. GM got his female needs covered by Alpha, it was clearly the men part that wasn´t completely satisfying all the time, with a stroke of excitement junkie too him, that got GM in some situations we all know of. So where he got the real love and care for his needs we know. And shouldn´t be denied even by the most jealous lovelies, it only proves lack of sexual knowledge and shows you want GM to be what you imagine instead of who he was.  And the Parkison interview is not the only time he said it himself.

GM was a man, a human, that usually means that sex is the most important part of you and your brain activity, add that GM had a known big need for sex, now do you get it? It is all the most natural in the world, this was GM personal needs to be satisfied. Needs and desires that is not the same for everybody.

You realize how twisted and disgusting it is that you are obsessed about GM sex life and dissecting it, may this explanation end that once and for all. Leave the parts of him alone that he didn't want to share with you, details of his sexuality for one, he knew the ones it could possibly concern would see and understand themselves and for the rest, that would be way too much to handle, like we have seen in here.

You have been speculating over and over about what FF possibly could hold over GM family, why the estate take such time and possibly are making some changes or arrangements, or why they want to avoid having the will made public, if the release of music may or may not happen has been given no clear answers and one of you even though it was strange GM never fathered a child, some actually have tried to say it, but get all lovelies hysteria as reply, the ones who said it was right, there is one and the same possible answer to this, but you don´t want to recognize it, that is more important to your fantasy world then realize what the most likely answer is, again, GM and Alpha.

If you are in danger to get a stroke, keep the bag over your head.

by Anonymousreply 168September 21, 2018 7:45 PM

R167/R168 Idiot!

by Anonymousreply 169September 21, 2018 8:55 PM

lmao Alpha R167 R168 You took all this time to write a bunch of BS !! How pathetic and delusional you are !!!

by Anonymousreply 170September 21, 2018 11:36 PM

Go fuck yourself r148. If it is public record it is not insider knowledge like you want to believe you have. Dumbass proved yourself wrong. No one appreciates you frau.

by Anonymousreply 171September 22, 2018 12:40 AM

Wow, all I can say is there are some very bitter mean comments on this thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and thoughts concerning George Michael but is it really necessary to attack each other so viciously? If one wants to believe George was bisexual so be it. If another wants to believe George and the Alpha were in love and had a son who cares. If you find Fadi Fawaz attractive good for you. If not, believe me your not alone. Is it really necessary to go into such detail regarding George’s sex life, were you there? Not everyone may believe what another one believes but a little respect for ones opinion and thoughts would never hurt anyone. A few of you are what give gay’s a bad name!

by Anonymousreply 172September 22, 2018 6:24 AM

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by Anonymousreply 173September 22, 2018 8:33 AM

George Michael 'will be the joke of the century' – enraged escort Fadi Fawaz speaks out

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by Anonymousreply 174September 22, 2018 8:34 AM

R167 R168 is such a bloody troll. Describes all the different sex acts GM had with men and women in detail as if this person was in his bedroom and then has the gall to tell everybody else this: "You realize how twisted and disgusting it is that you are obsessed about GM sex life and dissecting it, may this explanation end that once and for all. Leave the parts of him alone that he didn't want to share with you, details of his sexuality for one"

The man is dead and has taken his sexuality to his grave. Time to leave him alone

by Anonymousreply 175September 22, 2018 9:21 AM

Fadi was always sending stories to the daily star when George was alive too.

A shame he was in such a vulnerable and lonely place that he he brought fadi back around again to goring for company in the summer of 2016. He should gave just cut him completely loose when they actually broke up.

What a mess.

by Anonymousreply 176September 22, 2018 1:23 PM

George and Fadi’s relationship was supposedly ended and in 2016 George brought Fadi back into his life because he was so lonely. Did George really not have any true friends or was he just looking for someone to control, get his drugs and for sex? If that is really true, I would think George’s family and the likes of Andrew or Shirlie had enough of George’s antics. After 35 years of George Michael’s ways you really can’t blame them. They probably went through different stages of emotions over the years and at the end they had enough of rejection and watching George self destruct slowly over the years. I’m sure they all have their own lives and would like to put this dilemma behind them and move on. Not sure where FF fits in this picture but he should keep his mouth shut and come to some resolution with the estate if he is some how entitled to anything such as dirty money. Really a Fadi?

by Anonymousreply 177September 22, 2018 2:26 PM

R176 Sorry, I am getting mixed up with all these different tabloids. Could you kindly remind us which were the stories Fadi sent to the Daily Star when GM was still alive?

by Anonymousreply 178September 22, 2018 4:18 PM

R178 The frau who posted R176 is just using the least amount of information while adding some bullshit to it to create a dash of a reality-distortion field. In short, just bullshitting you. Just a piss elegant bitch of the Florida swamp variety

by Anonymousreply 179September 23, 2018 1:28 AM

You couldn’t be further from the truth r179. But you are definitely vile and need anger management therapy.

by Anonymousreply 180September 23, 2018 1:32 PM

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by Anonymousreply 181September 23, 2018 1:37 PM

R166. You are brain dead moron. George was a gay man the better you accept it the better you will stop embarrassing yourself.

by Anonymousreply 182September 23, 2018 2:46 PM

Why does George’s sexuality have to be such an issue? Everyone needs to understand it was never black and white for George. However, he was smart enough to realize down the road to use it to his advantage whenever it suited him. He was straight when it was to his advantage, he was bi when straight was an issue and then he described himself as a gay man. Believe whatever you want but stop making is such a big deal. The same with the Alpha. If it makes you happy to believe George was in love with a woman and had a son so be it. Your certainly are in the minority with those beliefs but if you believe he was a gay man than it suggests you took George at his word. We have all read it over and over.

by Anonymousreply 183September 23, 2018 3:32 PM

Well well well ... look who just admitted to selling to the press? The creep Scotty Valentine posted on FB that he sold pictures to the press.

[quote]I've NEVER fought with a celebrities boyfriend UNTIL TONIGHT!

So next time you see stories on the press about GM and FF, you know who made money from that story. Not Fadi, but Scott Valentine

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by Anonymousreply 184September 23, 2018 4:43 PM

Good g*d. Now these lovelies are making twitter stars of each other.

The one recent article posted here about George’s music was ignored and there are basically two people posting regularly on this threat screaming in vile language and aa third too homophobic to believe he was not into women so they blather/troll about one that never existed. . This really should mark the end of this over cooked datalounge thread saga. The smart ones are all gone. The rest for the most part are seriously unstable. Nothing left to see here.

by Anonymousreply 185September 23, 2018 5:38 PM

R185 You're right. I think it's time we let George rest in peace. Nothing anyone says or does can make any difference at this point. He was a troubled, fragile man, demonized by the media, and both blessed and cursed with a talent that drove him to oblivion. My only hope is that there is some music yet to be heard. I can't imagine why David Austin would even bother to mention "finished, mixed" songs if they didn't exist. That sounds like a pure marketing ploy to me - the purpose of which is to drum up interest.

by Anonymousreply 186September 23, 2018 10:20 PM

^yes r186. And the article was also an attempt to Change the narrative in the news away from a greedy ex saying awe Duke things and remind people about George’s talent.

As for this thread - I’m done.

If I knew how to create a thread on this site I would create one that focuses on his music, videos, artistic achievements (and hopefully rock and roll hall of fame nomination this year) I would.

His music brought me comfort and happiness. It feels wrong to participate in this messy thread in return for that. So, I’m done with it.

by Anonymousreply 187September 24, 2018 2:59 AM

*awful* that should have said. Typo.

by Anonymousreply 188September 24, 2018 3:00 AM

R188 Agreed. "His music brought me comfort and happiness." A thread devoted to that and GM's talent would be very welcome.

by Anonymousreply 189September 24, 2018 12:26 PM

Well folks here we go again. Pick your favorite: The Sun, Mirror or Metro.

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by Anonymousreply 190September 24, 2018 1:05 PM

What is really there to talk about that hasn't been rehashed a million times. There is nothing new musically since he died. I will love to discuss that than the drug and sex debacle of his life. unfortunately a thread about any new music will be short with less interest unless we want to talk about his old music again.

by Anonymousreply 191September 24, 2018 2:04 PM

Unfortunately his controversies is what kept his name in the news when he was alive not his music.

by Anonymousreply 192September 24, 2018 2:06 PM

If what fadi is stating is the truth he was a bigger mess than we thought. I kind of believe fadi even though he is a piece of shit. I mean some of the stuffs he states actually was reported in the media, the falling out of a car which I thought was a suicide attempt. What I don't understand is why he will want to die so publicly. It seems like a cry for help. I think there is a dark side to fame and fortune that some of those talented people do not care anymore how they die.

by Anonymousreply 193September 24, 2018 2:36 PM

Even if only a little of what FF said is true then this is just plain sad. Too many yes people around and no one could say no. G was always in charge and it seems like no one could help him.

by Anonymousreply 194September 24, 2018 3:58 PM

I tend to agree with everyone regarding FF’s comments being true or somewhat true. I can’t imag what George’s mindset would have had to be to stab himself so many times. Unfortunately George’s reputation is more tarnished dead than it was when he was alive.

If by some chance there are songs in the vault that are ready for release someone that loved George and has the authority to release the music should do so sooner than later. Perhaps it would put the focus back on George’s musical talents opposed to what had been going on in his live. Nothing can bring him back regardless of the circumstances surrounding his death so the likes of FF and others should let him Rest In Peace.

On a more positive note it would be wonderful if he was voted in the hall of fame.

by Anonymousreply 195September 24, 2018 4:48 PM

If they loved George they would have got him the help he needed and said no instead of been a yes man. I don't think there is any new collection of songs in the vault, it is just to keep the fans hoping a new song will be released. If what fadi states is true then there is no way he could record an album with his state of mind.

by Anonymousreply 196September 24, 2018 5:23 PM

It's been almost two years since George passed away.If what FF said today is true then all that's left is WHY?

by Anonymousreply 197September 24, 2018 5:28 PM

We all had a fair idea that he was in big trouble when he disappeared from public view after the May 2013 Motorway accident. Though the rather imbecile GM PR machine tried to spin the story about closing the car door that led to the accident most fans had an inkling that it was a suicide attempt.

Maybe it was just the genes and demons that caused the suicide of his Grandfather and Uncle were too strong to fight against for George. He was an even greater mess than we all thought. The addictions were far stronger than we thought. We also now realize that what the PR machine and GM himself were saying for years was far from the truth. Go back to the Redline interview recorded a few months before his death in Dec 2016 and what this Fadi guy is saying. George claiming that he and Madonna are the sane ones compared to MJ, Prince and Whitney.

Self-Delusional and Self-Destructive GM was for many years. How the so-called friends and family did not intervene and help him is hard to understand. Given he made all these suicide attempts how could the family leave him alone with a grifter like Fadi. This guy is a horrible human being who wants to expose and demean a dead man because he did not get his money. But the family and friends dont come of looking any better.

All round a very sad and sorry tale for all his fans to come to terms with. Best to remember the music and the good deeds of George Michael and let him take all his demons and secrets to the grave

by Anonymousreply 198September 24, 2018 6:58 PM

R198 Seriously how do we really know if George’s family or friends tried to help him. I get the impression George thought he was above approach for such nonsense. Look at the way he handled the breakup of Wham! When the time came George told everyone involved when and how it would come to pass. Andrew would have liked to have kept Wham! performing for one more year. In “Bare” Andrew states he never told George how he felt. I found that somewhat odd that Andrew didn’t feel comfortable enough to approach George on the subject.

I agree it’s best to remember George for his wonderful music, his kindness and philanthropy. I almost forgot his great sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 199September 24, 2018 10:00 PM

I'm all over the place on this but,I feel like you can't read FF comments then think he should shut up.I want him to talk and talk.I want the truth.It hasn't been about his music in years.Sadly because of his acting out.I got to meet George in NYC in the 80s.One thing I've always said to myself is it seemed like he aged quick.No way should he of looked that bad and old in his early 50s.He looked as old as his dad. We all have troubles none of us are without son and he was a grown man.He is responsible for himself.No matter who his partner was this was going to happen.We can't save George but we can try and save family or neighbors.I get he missed his mom and boyfriend but,Lord when he gets to where they are they are going to have words for him.How dare you use our name for your disgusting behavior lol.But then again he was cruising as a teen and if you look at his much younger pics he had a drink in his hand constantly.Someone needs to investigate that older women who he had sex with because she ruined him.Something happened to this man as a child that ruined his life it appears.ff is weird but give him a break could you imagine finding your bf dead in bed ? This guy appeared to put up with a lot dealing with George. Went to rehab with him.Its his story to tell and Kenny's .Cant no one tell you what to do with your own story..George is going to have one more hit and it's this movie their casting.They are casting 6 men to play him.I did always wonder about Anselmo and the sister mentioned him in one of their letters to stick it to FF and kg.But did they meet Anselmo?Well as we all know after being with George ONLY 3/6 months then takes a test and finds out he has aids not HIV. And he went home to Brazil for Dr care.yeah ok.He was running home to his family to die there.Plus his family didn't know he was gay.So how did George base his entire love of Anselmo based on him giving George the heart to accept his life and be true to himself.And if George never came out how did Anselmo know he was gay or would be into h or didn't have a bf.It doesn't add up either way I think George was played.And did George leave anything to Anselmo family? Is that why the family came out with their disappointment about freedom.Anselmo lived in NYC was he promiscuous?He passed in the early 90s .Was George really true to Anselmo.Anselmo was in his room at George s house praying for time being that he's Catholic.George had a problem with it.

by Anonymousreply 200September 24, 2018 11:39 PM

Remember when the lovelies said "Oh well he only hurt himself" Hmmm the LA cop,Sony,Fadi,Kenny,Family,Elton and fans.

by Anonymousreply 201September 24, 2018 11:49 PM

R200 I’m all over the place on this one too. He not only had a drink in his hand but he was a smoker. I read where Lisa Stansfield said she had two packs of cigarettes when they had gone out to eat with her husband and George smoked one whole pack. I realize people were not as health conscious back in the 80s and 90s as they are today but if you had George’s talent and voice you would think you would try to take care of your vocal cords.

George mentioned how he felt about Anselmo and his catholic religion. I wonder if George noticed how many songs he wrote that mention angels, praying, talks about his maker, Jesus, virgin child, faith something sacred, etc.

by Anonymousreply 202September 25, 2018 12:08 AM

George said one thing did another

by Anonymousreply 203September 25, 2018 12:54 AM

He did age rather rapidly - seemingly in the late 90s and early 00s.

George in 1994 with Sharon Stone....

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by Anonymousreply 204September 25, 2018 3:56 AM

George in 2003....

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by Anonymousreply 205September 25, 2018 3:59 AM

All over the place too and feel I want to know every detail to help me put it to bed and move on, on the other hand I wish I was oblivious to it ALL. He drew us into his life with his lyrics and interviews (yes I realise he told us what he wanted as and when and not always the truth). It's all so very tragic.

by Anonymousreply 206September 25, 2018 7:52 AM

Well this lays it all out. From start to finish.

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by Anonymousreply 207September 25, 2018 12:04 PM

^ Very sad story and it rings true. We might not like Fadi and his money grabbing ways, but the truth is the truth. In this story FF portrays himself as being a very clean guy who hated drugs and did not touch anything. Is that the truth or is he just whitewashing his role in all this. How did the I slept in the car now become I slept in the downstairs bedroom?

by Anonymousreply 208September 25, 2018 1:23 PM

For two years we don't know.One thing we can all agree on is that George was in charge of George

by Anonymousreply 209September 25, 2018 1:28 PM

R208 We still don't know how much is true. FF is totally "whitewashing" his role in all of this. Everyone knew he supplied George with GHB - it's rampant in the porn industry. He enabled GM. God, have some dignity. He claims he was G's partner and gladly shared the spoils of a lifestyle he could only dream of, and now, he decides to share intimate details that do nothing but make him look like the poor put upon lover. It's obvious it was G's money FF lusted after. Let the poor man rest. His music is the most beautiful expression of his troubled soul. Why reveal any of this now? What's to be gained from revealing how vulnerable George was? And by the way, what happened to "I slept in the car?" Now it's I was in the house and checked on him several times... The lies pile up with this guy.

by Anonymousreply 210September 25, 2018 1:39 PM

What strikes me is how bleak George Michael's existence appeared day to day. Isolated, dependent on drugs, dark house, sleeping till 6 pm. Makes me depressed just reading it. Take care of your serotonin kids.

by Anonymousreply 211September 25, 2018 2:11 PM

R208. I don't think fad I is lying now when he said he checked in on him. I believe he lied when he states he slept in the car. Yes fad I is trying to whitewash his image while stating the truth. I know most of you guys don't want to hear it but you know he will eventually reveal a lot, so you guys should have been prepared. If there was a documentary on George final days it might look similar to Whitney documentary i saw on showtime, in short sad and tragic. Fad i is still a piece of s hit but I have always had a strong feeling that George was in a dark depressive place for the last few years of his life. The falling out of the car on a highway and disappearing from the public afterwards.

by Anonymousreply 212September 25, 2018 2:21 PM

^ Most of what he is saying is probably true and Fadi is whitewashing his role and making himself look like a saint. George was in a dark place and suicidal, that part rings true. Fadi's role as some kind of anti-drug crusader doesnt sound true. Sad part is the man is dead. Why drag his name through the mud. What purpose does it serve. FF is now selectively leaking stuff and will come out with a book around Christmas time. True fans should not buy that crap and put money in Fadi's pockets.

by Anonymousreply 213September 25, 2018 3:21 PM

The bout with pneumonia was a turning point for George. As much as I think FF is a piece of shit, I believe he is right about George never being the same after that (both privately and publicly) . It seemed like G tried hard to move on from it and to keep going, but I think he was haunted by what happened to him and that his body/voice weren’t the same either. I applaud him for trying to press on with life and to try to return to the the thing that likely kept him alive...his music. He returned to Symphonica, did the Okympics, made White Light (not in that order) perhaps with the hope that the momentum would keep him going and move him to a happier place. But when you add drugs, Fadi and all the unsavory people back into the picture he didn’t stand a chance. George was fully in charge of his ascent and descent....for better or for worse. His insistence on doing things his way is one of the things we love and respect about him, but it has also become the thing we loathe about him....

by Anonymousreply 214September 25, 2018 3:51 PM

R214. According to what Fad i stated and the news in the media afterwards and what the drug dealers have stated. He was not clean from doing drugs. He was still struggling to overcome his drug addictions. I don't think the pneumonia incident was truly a turning because if it was he won't still be dabbling in ghb and other elicit drugs. Sad all around. It seems like long term sobriety became a real struggle.

by Anonymousreply 215September 25, 2018 4:34 PM

But, coroner says fatty heart disease

by Anonymousreply 216September 25, 2018 5:01 PM

I guess we can expect a few more parts such as the hookers he still had in his life itheough 2012 until rehab (fadi will really turn that into a poor me story) , family issues and relationships.

I think it’s a whitewashed truth regarding fadi’s Role in things. Some convenient omissions - they had a row on the 23rd which he never explains. He never even saw G oin the 24th. There are paparazzi photos of fadi wandering around goring with a coffee on the afternoon of the 24th. There is a good chance George was already dead as those photos were being taken. Makes you wonder who tipped the paparazzi after all. I know they supposedly had a tip about the documentary but that was not true that anything was being filmed. Fadi though needed to look out and about didn’t he. If you heard no movement in the house and saw that his bedroom door never moved you still wouldn’t check on someone for a full 48 hours after you last see the person?

While it’s clear George likely killed him myself. Fadi certainly helped it happen didn’t he.

No wonder the paramedic was looking at him funny since George was dead for so long - and all he says in the article is how bad she made him feel all sad - not that he was sad , scared, devastated that george was dead. He’s a sociopath and narcissistic creep. He’s a dark guy. Just look at his art. How depressing a person is he. I’m sure he was a terrible influence on George’s attempts at recovering.

It’s small but a bit weird to me that fadi could look from downstairs to see George’s door had not moved and said that he always kept it partially open - yet he also said George slept in complete darkness. With a door open that one can view from the downstairs of the house? He’s whitewashing the fact that he likely knew George was despondent- especially on his mother’s birthday. He never went to check on him.

I wonder what that fight was about.

No wonder George’s family hates him. No wonder he wasn’t invited to wake. I can only imagine what details fadi has omitted. Those are the details that are why the family hates him.

PS is Mareylbone a mental hospital? I’m not from London.

How does someone stab themselves 25 times on one go and not kill themself. That was a self harm thing for sure but maybe also a cry for help vs an actual attempt. Not that it matters I guess.

by Anonymousreply 217September 25, 2018 5:29 PM

R217 [QUOTE]No wonder the paramedic was looking at him funny since George was dead for so long - and all he says in the article is how bad she made him feel all sad - not that he was sad , scared, devastated that george was dead. He’s a sociopath and narcissistic creep. He’s a dark guy. Just look at his art. How depressing a person is he. I’m sure he was a terrible influence on George’s attempts at recovering.

You are so right. FF is very selective about what he says and he's self-serving and vile. How on earth do you leave someone you loved alone for so long if you were fully aware of their vulnerability? I'd be checking on him every 10 minutes. He basically just let George die. And stabbing? 25 times? Not even possible. Maybe you could get a knife in you a few times - 3 or 4 maybe - but after that you'd be incapacitated. Heartbreaking all around. It's possible G could have got the help he needed if he didn't have porn leeches and rough trade around him. And after the pneumonia, G really needed a lot of help - both professional and emotional. Going through a life-threatening illness can produce an incredible array of anxiety and depression - just like post-traumatic stress disorder. That was the time he really needed true friends - more than fake lovers.

by Anonymousreply 218September 25, 2018 6:16 PM

Fadi "the scum" Fawaz said the suicidal tweets soon after GMs death was because his Twitter account was hacked. So now we know that was a LIE. It was him tweeting to cover his ass. When somebody is suicidal and so troubled do you not check on them for hours. Maybe the jerk wanted him to die so he could get to George's money. Who knows what motivates people like this. I slept in my car was a lie.

George Michael was responsible for his own self-destruction and descent into this dark place. As much as I have no respect for Kenny and Fadi I dont blame them for it. For Fadi to now act as if he was this perfect guy and calling George a "fucked up icon" and calling his money dirty and so on is vile. Get out of GMs house then. It was money earned selling music based on some great talent and creative genius. This Fadi guy calling that dirty money and calling George names only damages his reputation not GMs

by Anonymousreply 219September 25, 2018 6:41 PM

FF this and FF that.Where were the ones that got the money

by Anonymousreply 220September 25, 2018 6:49 PM

George was a mess for many years.Long before kg and ff

by Anonymousreply 221September 25, 2018 6:53 PM

R221. Thanks Sherlock. No one disputes that.

by Anonymousreply 222September 25, 2018 6:57 PM

Why do you r220 think your family of origin is going to be up your ass well into your 50’s? He admitted he hid from them to spare them back in the 80s and early 90s. He pushed away people who would put up a fight about his druggie and hooker lifestyle.

In the end he left his money to them. He could have put it all to charity but he didn’t. His family relationships were undoubtedly complex like most people. Drugs I’m sure added an additional torture. He provided for the people he cared about most though in his will.

by Anonymousreply 223September 25, 2018 7:02 PM

He that has the money is the decider.George had who he wanted around him.

by Anonymousreply 224September 25, 2018 7:09 PM

I can’t imagine how George’s family must be today. FF is a real piece of work. I’m sure there are truths to FF’s statement. I have a hard time believing FF a former x porn star was your all American Boy next door and did not know what the brown stuff was. Alcohol and drugs were a big part of George’s career from the beginning. He was just good at hiding it. He lived a life style that most of us could only dream about but he also had the money to indulge in whatever he wanted. After so long drugs and alcohol take a toll on your body and his brain had to be fried at some point. He surrounded himself with people that loved the perks of his lifestyle. By doing so he could control them. George controlled his own destiny. I’m sure there are lots of truths in FF’s statement. It is quite sad to know what could have been for George but to see it end in such a sad way is devastating. For all of George’s troubles he still loved his family and took the necessary arrangements for his favorite charities. He had a good heart. He was a musical genius. Things do not usually end well for people with the gifts that George was born with. I am going to try to think of his beautifully written songs as opposed to the tragedy of his his last years.

by Anonymousreply 225September 25, 2018 7:28 PM

Nice post r225

by Anonymousreply 226September 25, 2018 7:32 PM

He outsmarted all the psychologists & therapists cause honestly, they can't really help someone w a clinical depression like GM did. nobody could save him from himself. I'm fighting clinical depression for years and nothing helps. I hope to not wake up in the morning every night I go to sleep. All the money and means in the world can't cure it. Many times depression can't be cured. I believe GM is actually in a better place now. The only thing I believe from what FF has said is GM's drug addiction & suicide attempts. FF forsure supplied the drug and I we still don't know what happened the night GM had died and where was Fadi. I think there was a trigger that night (maybe something to do with having being alone Xmas eve and not celebrating w his family ? hence the family is keeping quiet.. )

by Anonymousreply 227September 25, 2018 7:57 PM

Prince alone in a elevator.Whitney alone in a tub.Michael in bed .GM in bed. All 4 has abuse problems sadly.They all died alone.But oh where was so and so?Wonder why when Johnny and Suzie die no one asks those questions..

by Anonymousreply 228September 25, 2018 8:52 PM

Whatever the truth of todays stories, @GeorgeMichael deserves a far better epitaph than the one he is getting today. #GeorgeMichael

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by Anonymousreply 229September 25, 2018 8:54 PM

It was up to him to leave that. But as others have said his music wasn't being talked about.We all loved him but he needed to love himself

by Anonymousreply 230September 25, 2018 9:00 PM

Fadi Fawaz gives inconsistent account of events leading to star’s death

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by Anonymousreply 231September 25, 2018 9:54 PM

I've built something with an awful lot of people (fans) and to think that would be destroyed by the tabloids, I don't think I could live with that thought! 😢

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by Anonymousreply 232September 25, 2018 9:59 PM

Fadi the leech never loved George Michael. He just loved his money

by Anonymousreply 233September 25, 2018 10:05 PM

Chris antoniou george michael's cousin says..... Any more made up story's from Fadi, what next George hit a giant white rabbit with his car....!!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 234September 25, 2018 10:13 PM

r227 huge hugs to you.

by Anonymousreply 235September 25, 2018 11:27 PM

R234. This George cousin needs to have a seat. Fad I might be a piece of shit but he is mostly right this time. He can try to discredit Fad I the street hustler all he wants but he is just as much an opportunist as fadi.

by Anonymousreply 236September 25, 2018 11:35 PM

Why are some of you referring to a so called cousin with an inactive twitter account.

by Anonymousreply 237September 25, 2018 11:36 PM

Exactly.

by Anonymousreply 238September 25, 2018 11:58 PM

R227 Christmas Eve was his beloved mom’s birthday. He found him myself out of rehab and with no one around him but fadi - the prince of darkness himself

by Anonymousreply 239September 26, 2018 12:01 AM

That's what he wanted

by Anonymousreply 240September 26, 2018 12:03 AM

If what FF is stating is true, George’s family and David should have been honest from the very beginning. It would have been in the papers, social media, the television for a few days or a week or two and it would have been a done deal. Instead it has been 33 months since George passed. He has been in the news for all the wrong reasons once people got over his giving ways and his philanthropy. Yes, he had his demons but he certainly deserved better.

by Anonymousreply 241September 26, 2018 12:10 AM

33 months??? Try 21. It’s been less than two years.

And why should the family have to talk about his mental illness if they don’t want to? They have been managing the way they always have which is privately. The have a right to do that without wing harassed by former porn actor money grapplers.

It’s fatty who is pushing this all into the open over money. And to think he’s doing all this after saying how much he hated George, and all the while living in him one of his homes still. Disgusting. He acted like George had behaved in a contemptuous way. Dirty money etc etc. All he has revealed instead are private moments of a severely mentally ill soul.

That jerk even admitted that they only knew each other or dated for two weeks before George became ill. Yet he managed to hang around for a few years. All for money. He didn’t even sound sad when he recounted George’s death. He was just upset with what the paramedic thought of him.

by Anonymousreply 242September 26, 2018 12:34 AM

^ and that the relationship sucked after his illness. Yet he stayed.

by Anonymousreply 243September 26, 2018 12:35 AM

I thought Fadi tweeted he would never stop missing him? What a dirt bag he is. Jesus, George. You sure knew how to pick em. But no different than DLers talking about hot certain murderers are etc. Half or more would have probably picked Fadi too. But without any money he wouldn't have grifted you for long. George on the other hand can even be dead and Fadi will still grift him. Incredible.

by Anonymousreply 244September 26, 2018 1:20 AM

Jesus take the wheel.This tells me who George was as well

by Anonymousreply 245September 26, 2018 1:27 AM

Damn George

by Anonymousreply 246September 26, 2018 1:53 AM

I remember reading that the Police wanted to talk to all those that had visited Mill Cottage on Christmas Eve. There were deliveries but also a man and woman that left that looked quite upset. I wonder if they saw George. If they didn't, what where they told about his whereabouts?

Also, what about the sightings of George at the window watching the procession to the church? Wasn't that late on Christmas Eve? Did that really happen?

I feel so sad that George was so sad. I hope that he is now at peace.

by Anonymousreply 247September 26, 2018 5:04 AM

R242 I found it striking that Fadi would in his recollection of finding a man dead in bed would recall that the paramedic looked at him in a contemptuous way. That is extreme narcissism. Fadi is a dirt bag, scum bag and deserves all the names he is called. But sadly the type of guy Fadi is also reveals the depths to which GM himself sunk in the 2000s.

George was in control and destroyed his own life. No use blaming Kenny and FF and the whole lot of them. They were mere signs of George's dysfunctions. As GM himself said once 'I'm surprised I've survived my own dysfunction'. In the end he really did not survive

by Anonymousreply 248September 26, 2018 6:51 AM

What pushed FF’s buttons enough for his latest antics?

by Anonymousreply 249September 26, 2018 7:29 AM

On a much more positive note.

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by Anonymousreply 250September 26, 2018 7:33 AM

R247 those were visits in the days leading up to Christmas. They were not Xmas eve visits specifically. Also it was not a man and a woman reported leaving upset although there was a pic of a man and a woman leaving the house that week and getting into a car. They were never publicly identified. The story of the upset man was only described with no photo and it was said he was wearing a business suit and appeared very upset. One article might have said he was in tears. He was never publicly identified either.

The report of the Xmas parade sighting was a random person in the days following his death. It might have been true but there was so much reporting at trhe time it wasn’t very specific and may not have even been that year in particular. The parade thing takes place around 5 or 7 pm. He could have still been alive but it seems there was no movement all that day based in the idiot fadi. I don’t know what the paramedics meant be he had been gone a long time or whatever fadi wrote in the article.

Obviously a lot more going in than fadi describes and 100% yes totally to the others who pointed out he gave himself away in that article as having narcissistic personality disorder.

George’s decisions about who to have around him definitely reflect his own dysfunction though too. So true.

If you can find it, read Simon Napier bell book “I’m coming to take you to lunch” he was the manager of wham in their heyday. It provides the most insight into both George and Andrews personalities though the book is about more than just them. It is a good read overall. In light of recent years it is a fasciytake in George and was written well before all of George’s troubles. It’s incredible to believe he ended up how he did when reading this account. On one hand he was incredibly disciplined and focused. . On the other he was also described via examples as being extremely strident in his opinions and not taking anyone’s advice and being highily judgemental of things he later did himself to the extreme. And this was all as an 19 -22 year old. It’s fas in light of where George went years later.

by Anonymousreply 251September 26, 2018 10:21 AM

The lengths he will go to get his hands on cash

by Anonymousreply 252September 26, 2018 11:06 AM

Thank you [[251]]. I've ordered that book and look forward to reading it.

I still think that there's way more to the story than what's been presented and for some perverse reason I'd like to know it all. However, I'm sure that will never be fully known.

by Anonymousreply 253September 26, 2018 11:19 AM

“I never saw him. I fell asleep in my car and I never saw him that night. The police know everything. That’s the most important thing.”

“I stayed the whole weekend. I was there Friday night and then I found him Sunday.”

by Anonymousreply 254September 26, 2018 12:03 PM

R249 Think Fadi decided it is going to take too long to fight the legal battle and make some money. Making these posts about the last day and years is a teaser for all of us. I bet there is a book coming out this XMas from him.

As R253 says his fans will be interested in what happened to GM in the last years. FFs account will be highly unreliable and like these posts present himself as some kind of saint. But we all know better. The guy cant keep his account straight from day to day. But still fans will buy the book when it comes out

by Anonymousreply 255September 26, 2018 1:58 PM

FF. Fits in with what everyone else was saying

by Anonymousreply 256September 26, 2018 2:37 PM

Lets remember why 21 months after his death we are still talking about George Michael. He was a superbly talented singer, songwriter and musician. Fadi 'bitch' Fawaz calling him names and calling his money dirty. Where the hell does he get off. Go back to finding a rich sugar daddy again and hope he leaves you money in his will Fadi. If you have any self-respect you will leave GMs house before you demean him and call him names. Your place is on the streets

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by Anonymousreply 257September 26, 2018 4:09 PM

Seems to me George Michael earned every penny he ever made. God only knows how much money he gave people and charities in need.

by Anonymousreply 258September 26, 2018 4:35 PM

^ Yes he did. GM deserved every single penny he made and he shared around the riches. We paid for his beautiful music and I have not regretted buying all his CDs. Wish that with his great talent he could have been more productive and given us more music. Maybe he would have stayed out of trouble that way. No time for this Fadi guy with no talent who slobs around in somebodys house hankering for money to call George's money dirty money

by Anonymousreply 259September 26, 2018 5:49 PM

Well he was GM choice so there's that

by Anonymousreply 260September 26, 2018 7:12 PM

What the hell does FF talent have to do with anything

by Anonymousreply 261September 26, 2018 8:55 PM

I think FF having no talent meant he has a heck of a lot of nerve talking about George’s money being dirty and living in his house all of these months. After all it isn’t as if FF was the bread winner bringing in the money he was an ex-porn star.

by Anonymousreply 262September 27, 2018 12:31 AM

It’s floors me that according to ff they fought in the 23rd and he did not see him again until he found him in the 25th. He might have been gone already during those pap pics if fadi in the 24th wandering around the neighbourhood in his shower shoes.

Fadi loves to push buttons. Imagine what he did to a guy he knew was depressed, vulnerable?

One of his quotes in the day or two after was “ things had been complicated lately but georywas looking forttonzmas and so was I.”

Complicated how? You knew he was dumping you?

What the f was he doing wandering around posing. It looks staged to me now. One coffee.

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Omg sorry for all those typos.

by Anonymousreply 264September 27, 2018 1:29 AM

How can he possibly still be in that house? Is it his now?

by Anonymousreply 265September 27, 2018 1:54 AM

The ITV documentary was frightening. The guy smoked 24 joints a day and was always knocking back GHB. He stayed in bed until 6pm every day.

by Anonymousreply 266September 27, 2018 7:48 AM

I’m not being smart here but why did George have to take GHB in order to have sex?

by Anonymousreply 267September 27, 2018 10:05 AM

Things would be complicated in your relationship if your other half was a suicidal drug addict...

by Anonymousreply 268September 27, 2018 4:13 PM

R268 I agree. I actually give Fadi a high credibility when he says: "Things by been difficult lately". Both Kenny and Fadi were used to brush things under the carpet and keep up the tale of "Everything is under control." The question is, who really was the abuser on their relationship. My bet actually is on GM. Kenny at least was compensated with the GMF for putting up with GM and being finished off in public during a concert. Fadi gained nothing, but blame despite being a tremendous support for GM. GM could have died much earlier on many an occasion. This should really be made clear. Fadi has every right to sue the estate (if this is true after all) for a compensation and I would fully support him.

by Anonymousreply 269September 27, 2018 4:53 PM

I think he should as well.Can you imagine being his bf? I have a cousin that smiles just like him all day long.Thats a bad front.

by Anonymousreply 270September 27, 2018 5:35 PM

R269 and R270 You are both Fadi Trolls. He did nothing for George but supply the drugs and act as fuck bunny. He was paid handsomely for both and he enjoyed the money so much he stuck around even after “the romance died” – his own words. He altered his story about the night G passed and practically admitted to negligent homicide. He didn’t have to “put up” with anything. He could have simply moved on down the road. But no. $$$$$$ was and is his motivation. Yeah, George was not perfect and a handful but Fadi was never a “tremendous support for GM.” That’s a crock of shit. G may have wished and hoped that this was the case. G suffered with severe depression and loneliness, but most likely knew, he was way beyond finding anyone who actually gave a damn about him. FF was a convenience and an enabler in every vile way.

by Anonymousreply 271September 28, 2018 12:08 AM

Exactly r271. And r268 - no one forced the prick to stay with George if he was sooo fucked up. Essentially the “romance died” within months but he conveniently stuck around for his pay day.

He knew enough to know that if he fought with the guy in the 24th and has said he knew how difficult the 24th was for George - and knew of his suicide attempts- yet he didn’t check on him from 23rd to the 25th despite hearing no movement. Makes no sense. Same with all the pap pictures on the 24th. They just didn’t have enough of a case on this guy. No wonder that Alex guy kept saying the police should investigate him more. He probably helped George end it - ghb leaves the body in 12 hours. Impossible to detect in post mortems if one has been dead that long. How convenient.

by Anonymousreply 272September 28, 2018 12:33 AM

R271 and R272 Exactly! If you ask me which you didn’t but anyway FF stayed with George because he realized without the proper help and support George wouldn’t be around long. It definitely would be worth his whiled to hang around to see what riches he could collect after his death. FF didn’t bargain for the family to see right through him. I wouldn’t give him a penny more. It ticks me off that he feels so entitled.

by Anonymousreply 273September 28, 2018 12:51 AM

I think at this point it is safe to assume the house was given to him. Unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 274September 28, 2018 3:05 AM

R272 Major factual error! Metabolism stops minutes after death. This means that any amount of drug that is present in the body at the time of death stays there and can be easily detected. GHB is not the drug you should use if you are planning to get away with murder. Your logic has more flaws: if he had taken GHB, which is indeed possible, but the whole amount of drug had already left his body at the time of death, then it hasn't caused his death. You don't die from an overdose at a moment when the drug has already been totally eliminated. Got it?

by Anonymousreply 275September 28, 2018 8:15 AM

R275 I suggest you read up on ghb. You are wrong.

by Anonymousreply 276September 28, 2018 11:38 AM

Rude about it too. But that’s just how some people are in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 277September 28, 2018 11:39 AM

Exactly. It can easily metabolize before you die from it from depressed breathing functions.

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by Anonymousreply 278September 28, 2018 11:44 AM

There are loads of posts about this many threads back. R275 is incorrect.

by Anonymousreply 279September 28, 2018 11:45 AM

“With this information, we can estimate that it’ll take (on average) between 1.83 and 5.5 hours to eliminate 100% of the GHB from systemic circulation. This means that GHB should be out of your system within a few hours post-ingestion. However, just because GHB is out of your system within just 5.5 hours (on average), does not mean that your neurochemistry will have normalized and/or readjusted back to pre-GHB homeostasis.

“It may take awhile for your neurochemistry to recalibrate itself to homeostatic functioning after GHB usage. During this recalibration phase, you may mistakenly believe that GHB is somehow still in systemic circulation. The reality is that while GHB was in your system, it induced a cascade of potent neurophysiological changes, but was rapidly eliminated.”

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by Anonymousreply 280September 28, 2018 11:49 AM

Just ignore r275. It’s the person who continually defends fadi in earlier posts (yes wee can see them tied to you) and bad mouths george. They know nothing. Clearly some fan of fadi or one of his relatives. Singing the fadi tune with slightly better English.

by Anonymousreply 281September 28, 2018 11:53 AM

The article was very interesting concerning HGB. I appreciate you posting the article.

There are a few on this thread that are constantly negative and critical of those of us that are fans of George Michael. We are not looking through rosy colored glasses. We know George lived a life full of drama. George’s songs are as meaningful today as they were 35 years ago.

FF is scum.

by Anonymousreply 282September 28, 2018 12:33 PM

Maybe George did leave him the house but no money and now he's spilling his guts because he has no discernible skill to make a living. That's why there was talk about eviction previously due to taxes on the house etc. What a dead beat. George should have left him nothing. And then he would have eventually disappeared. But now living in London he won't till he dies.

by Anonymousreply 283September 28, 2018 3:39 PM

If FF is scum then what's George. George loved FF not you.And that will never change

by Anonymousreply 284September 28, 2018 4:29 PM

R281 Remember you don’t know who is posting here and their qualifications

R274 Some have said before that Regents Park has been given to Fadi already. Believe it now?

by Anonymousreply 285September 28, 2018 4:52 PM

The scumbag Fadi must be short of cash to come up with this crap

by Anonymousreply 286September 28, 2018 4:53 PM

R286 How do you connect the two?

If Fadi wants cash from that story, he won’t post it for free on Instagram. He could have sold it as an exclusive to The Sun or one of the tabs, or published it as a book

He posted it for FREE on Instagram. So how do you relate it to him needing money???

by Anonymousreply 287September 28, 2018 5:08 PM

They have no proof just throwing out anything.These are the same fools that said he killed george

by Anonymousreply 288September 28, 2018 7:14 PM

R285 I remember only telling you to go fuck yourself a few times. You only come on here to be abusive to everyone . You offer nothing to the dialogue. You are officially blocked so I don’t have to bother with you.

by Anonymousreply 289September 28, 2018 9:45 PM

R283 likely. He rambled on twitter or somewhere once that it was “his” house and corrected people responding to him saying it was George’s house by writing again “my house”.

by Anonymousreply 290September 28, 2018 9:48 PM

R287 He's fucking with the family. He thinks if he can destroy George's name they will bend. George needed better legal and financial advice before he died. He might have thought Fadi wouldn't expose him if he left him his house.

by Anonymousreply 291September 29, 2018 1:41 AM

George must have been a real mess to have left his house to shady fadi. I have always had a feeling Fad I knows too much and that is why his family can't fight back fearful he might really make things worst. Talk about wanting to dump someone but realize you might have to give them your house or they might blackmail you. Are we even sure he left him the house, he might be stating that to intimidate his family. He is daring them to kick him out even if his name is not on it. It seems like the relationship was not healthy at all and only God knows what kind of threat Fad I made towards him that might have pushed him over the edge.

by Anonymousreply 292September 29, 2018 4:10 AM

Just stop it your very stupid and a stan

by Anonymousreply 293September 29, 2018 12:51 PM

R292 We don't know anything really except that Fadi is a brazen grifter.

by Anonymousreply 294September 29, 2018 1:30 PM

The one thing everyone can take for granted and there's no need to speculate about is: Fadi knows an awful lot. It's more the people who managed GM's daily life and made sure the public image remained protected despite all sex and drugs paraphernalia going on than his family. Remember that Fadi is a photographer. I wonder what he might have documented over the years that might shed an unflattering light on GM's "inner circle".

by Anonymousreply 295September 29, 2018 2:14 PM

FF could be preparing his response to case submissions and he is having to come up with an explanation for GM being found dead in the wrong bedroom for the story he has been telling. KG (reading between the lines of his media coverage in May 17) was telling us he was found in the wrong bedroom. Was there a downstairs bedroom before. Was it a guest accomodation attached to the house or a downstairs bedroom for a man with a serious heart condition who could not get upstairs and did not want someone visiting to install a stair lift. Did FF know this if he had not been around for a long time?

Article on line about GHB post mortem it's a naturally occurring fatty acid which increases after death.

by Anonymousreply 296September 29, 2018 2:25 PM

Yes, I said FF is scum and I haven’t changed my mind. We know George was at an all time low and his addictions had reached an all time high. It’s obvious that George didn’t love himself let alone like himself. There is no way he could have loved FF or anyone else romantically at that stage of his life. The only person that had access to George that we are aware of was FF. What we do know is FF has changed his story as often as the weather changes these days. Yes we are living in a time where fake news and lies might be acceptable for some. Personally I may be old school but I am a big believer in the truth.

by Anonymousreply 297September 29, 2018 3:24 PM

I remember a picture I saw online of fadi holding his arm like he is an old man and he is the caregiver. I don't know why I keep remembering that picture. I guess it showed how his state of mind had began to deteriorate. It is sad all around and we are not sure fadi was given the house. Most of those posters that are spreading that unfounded info are Fad I fans. One thing is for sure fadi knows too much about his last few years.

by Anonymousreply 298September 29, 2018 8:05 PM

Well if ff didn’t find him dead he may of been in that house for god knows how long.This is nothing new folks.No one is going to be around this type of messNoOne.George was in rehab not a hospital that’s telling in itself.

by Anonymousreply 299September 29, 2018 9:58 PM

Poor George looked like a 75 year old man.

by Anonymousreply 300September 29, 2018 10:01 PM

Niles Rodgers was there on the 23rd. George didn't make an appearance. Niles videotaped himself driving around the corner at George's house and a hearse passed before him as he was waiting to turn the corner. He thought it was significant. .

by Anonymousreply 301September 29, 2018 10:33 PM

Everyone needs to remember Kenny left he was sick of George.Ff was still there uprooted from his country family and friends.He put up with a lot.

by Anonymousreply 302September 30, 2018 2:38 AM

The family don't deserve the money either. How did they help George? Did they hold him at night while he cried or stay with him in hospital when he was ill? Fadi was there on Christmas Day, the family were nowhere to be found.

Fadi has been given the Regents Park flat in exchange for not talking about his life with GM and it's a fair exchange.

So many bitter, ugly fraus spazzing on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 303September 30, 2018 5:31 AM

R298 "There was no vomit." I wonder how often Fadi found George passed out and covered in vomit, in his urine etc. No one wants to hear about this. You can't romantize addiction and depressions into "issues" and "demons", "don't we have them all", "he was not perfect" and "he was just like one of us". No, he wasn't. Fadi was extremely caring, I witnessed it myself. The family should be grateful to him. It's a miracle George made it to age 53 at all.

by Anonymousreply 304September 30, 2018 8:09 AM

FF very well may have taken care George. It is obvious now why he did. He was waiting for his big payday. However, there is absolutely no excuse for FF to rant, lie, fabricate his tales and causing anguish for George’s loved ones.

If FF truly loved George he would have taken care of George because he loved him. Once George passed FF would have kept his dignity, kept his mouth shut on moved on. Looks like FF has dreams of $$$$$$$$$$$$ and doesn’t care who he steps on I’m the process. Did he sleep in the car or not?

by Anonymousreply 305September 30, 2018 11:23 AM

George was worth more alive then dead to ff.Leave ff alone do you know what it’s like to find someone dead?And sorry but I agree with the comments about his sisters

by Anonymousreply 306September 30, 2018 12:18 PM

R295 makes a good point. Fadi is nothing if not manipulative. I could easily see George- in a drugged out stupor - agreeing to pose for stuff. Of not knowing he is posing for stuff. Fadi’s art is dark and disturbing so he could have a treasure trove of stuff that he could publish - even as art - online or in some dumbass gallery that would get publicity for doing so.

by Anonymousreply 307September 30, 2018 12:27 PM

Another article

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by Anonymousreply 308September 30, 2018 12:29 PM

R303 You don't leave money to your family because they "deserve it". He left it to them and charity because they were his family and he loved them.

by Anonymousreply 309September 30, 2018 12:34 PM

#305 are you perm stuck on stupid? Or just a silly lovely stuck in the 80s. 119,000 rehab couldn’t fix this man.Depression is a mf he said it himself .Drugs can cause depression as well.Fadi isn’t a dr stop slandering him.And worry about your own life.Are you 12 or something?Do I really have to explain how established men live ?Not just Hollywood also Main Street types have lovers that give up their entire lives to travel. and be at the core center of their man lover.Ff tried to help him and so did Kenny .When they have fights one goes upstairs one stays down.Or leaves.GHB is deadly ff knew he would be blamed if George passed away.So you can hate him for fighting back .But also understand what he was dealing with.Everyone isn’t about money.Im around celebrities Everyday I’ve watched people walk away or stay and ruin their own life.Im glad he’s saying I hate u George.Does he mean it NO he’s mad he’s upset .This didn’t have to happen

by Anonymousreply 310September 30, 2018 12:37 PM

He can be mad all he wants. But he means it. Why talk to the SUN? Why tell nasty things to the public. That's not just mad. That's conniving and scheming. He's a POS.

by Anonymousreply 311September 30, 2018 12:42 PM

I may not like his goings on and on but guess what I read it.Cant complain if you keep reading it.You just love being outraged two years later.He has a right to speak his mind it’s his story.outside of Austin he didn’t want anyone around but ff.Ff jumped his ass about those damn drugs and the lying

by Anonymousreply 312September 30, 2018 12:43 PM

For those that don’t get it .The timeline checked out for ff.If he bs the sun that’s on them.But anyway George probably had a few lovers over and ff probably left.That hour ff took to call 999 was ff cleansing the scene.Ya know why?Because he was still looking out for George.

by Anonymousreply 313September 30, 2018 12:52 PM

R310 You will never convince me that FF is not a liar.

Too bad he cleaned the scene. Was that for his benefit? It could have been very telling for the investigation.

You have your opinion and I have mine. Why do you always have to cross the line with your comment? You have a habit of attacking people on this thread and the old threads of FF. Perhaps you should start a new thread just for you and the other FF fans. I have read the comments online and FF has lost a good many fans.

The bottom line is he is a liar. Funny you never deny that fact.

One more thing you can’t perm a bald head!

by Anonymousreply 314September 30, 2018 1:23 PM

The fadi deranged fans are nutter than fadi and that is not saying much. Some of you are fucking stupid for even attempting to make fadi look like an angel. Some of you are not George fans but trolls with an IQ in comparison to fadi which is ziltch. If you are a fan of this porn grifter you need your brain examined for malfunction. Have some self respect for yourself instead of sucking on fadi nutsack. George clearly had some of the worst damaged people as fans that they prefer supporting his street hustler kept boy than defending him.

by Anonymousreply 315September 30, 2018 1:59 PM

R310 is a complete troll. If you block them you will see the torrent of verbal abuse in posts they made throughout the thread in all their past posts. Just ignore. The fool has no inside info and thrives on pretending they know better than everyone else while offering nothing up of value.

by Anonymousreply 316September 30, 2018 2:15 PM

R316. The fact that they were hoping fadi release more damaging info to make George look more messed than he already was when he was alive is telling of how messed up those so called fans are. They get their trill hoping there are more stories of him passed out. One idiot poster was in disbelieve there was no vomit or urine when he passedout. How sadistic you must be that you want fadi the grifter mentioning that.

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Emotional much?First off let’s get something straight.I at least had the pleasure of meeting him as he was blowing up.He had already signed one bad contract and then signed another NOT HIS FAULT. Depression NOT HIS FAULT. Drinking to excess and using drugs and driving while heavily on meds his fault CHOICES. BATHROOM SEX his choice.The difference with many are that while we were saying take care of yourself others were putting pressure for him to get on the road.Ignoring the fact that this man wasn’t well.He aged 20 years.Did you guys ever think that you the fans was all he had left and was stressed out trying to please you guys?As far as fadi went when I first heard the story I said to myself that big burly idiot killed him.Or one of his many crazy fans or the guy he spent time with in jail.But then I backed the F off and waited for the report.Many were calling this guy names way before George died.Many of you are racist that’s why the forum closed down.A liar yep just like George.Big sexual appetites yep just like George.Its a reason George didn’t date celebs.I noticed at the beginning of his relationships the men look great. Lord in heaven what happens in a relationship with him.Ff does need to be quiet and so did George.Being gay didn’t work out for him.It absolutely ruined his life

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And you don’t think when George was passed out they didn’t videotape him getting bareback slammed by the prostitution lovers.You don’t think he gave the key and allowed porn to be filmed.You don’t think he lied on an La cop and ruined his life.You don’t think he had 500 prostitutes in 7 years.You don’t believe he lied about the 59 year old man at hh?did you think he was with kg when he said they were broken up 2.5 years prior.Nothing ff could of covered up that wasn’t in the report.

by Anonymousreply 327September 30, 2018 3:27 PM

Odd George had three boy toys ummmm proper boyfriends and an uncountable amount of lovers lol

by Anonymousreply 328September 30, 2018 3:32 PM

So let’s sum this up.These silly’s are mad at their hero’s Lovers,Families and friends?The nobodies that want to rewrite history.Why not promote his album and help keep his legacy alive .Whitney,MJ ,Prince has skyrocketing sales when they passed.They were international but he was really international.George is being forgotten and it’s sad because you and I want to argue on a forum.

by Anonymousreply 329September 30, 2018 3:44 PM

Who permed a bald head lol.

by Anonymousreply 330September 30, 2018 3:55 PM

Unlike you I want the truth.Maybe I’m not owed it but I want to know what happened to George.The other stuff about bathroom sex Sony,whores,actually doesn’t matter anymore..But I will support whatever music is put out

by Anonymousreply 331September 30, 2018 4:11 PM

Two thoughts: *George Michael,the image&icon and GKP the person are 2 different things!At least 2 me it's very obvious that F makes a big difference between these 2 identities!! * In all the controversy and circus that emerged after GM's death there's way too much attention paid to GM's financial heritage...private info that is of no relevance for the"fans" whatsoever but only for the family&those who lived close to G during his lifetime!If his heirs decide to burn it,take it with them in their grave or whatever should be the least of every outsider's concern!

by Anonymousreply 332September 30, 2018 5:12 PM

R307 I never perceived Fadi's art work as dark and disturbing. Definitely not mainstream material. But it's his own, genuine creation and actually quite unique. For this he gets some 👍 from me.

by Anonymousreply 333September 30, 2018 8:16 PM

Fadi has been called dark by people who knew them both. That was quoted with named sources in the days following George’s death. I can’t be bothered looking for it right now but it’s there to find. Not a great combination to be with a guy who has problems with depression.

Art is subjective but many find his work dark. If you don’t and are into that kind of thing then good for you. Whatever floats your boat. And good for the rest of us who disagree.

He certainly isn’t making a living from it unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 334October 1, 2018 2:21 AM

What is it with some fadi whores commenting lately. It is like they all recently discovered this thread and couldn't wait to stroke his ego. I am surprised none of you haven't tried to suck on his nutsack. His so called "art" is rubbish and even Tracey Emin will look at it as amateurish The guy has no talent whatsoever but he is good at finding sugardaddies with issues.

by Anonymousreply 335October 1, 2018 2:31 AM

R334 Yes, dark just because of his Arab looks. Plus him being a huge bloke makes him appear him intimidating. So unlike the harmless looking sunnyboys Anselmo and Kenny. Subconscious rasism and islamophobia add to it. "Listen (look, read) without prejudice" should be practiced more.

by Anonymousreply 336October 1, 2018 5:23 AM

So the picture poster only posts pictures and has no words. If you are in to FF that much you need help. Spare the rest of us that are not FF fans. In case you didn’t know there are many of us that have no use for FF.

by Anonymousreply 337October 1, 2018 6:25 AM

Are there articles regarding George’s prison time? What relationship did he have in prison?

by Anonymousreply 338October 1, 2018 6:31 AM

'WE DON'T BUY IT, FADI' George Michael’s family say the story of his death as told by lover Fadi Fawaz is ‘full of holes’

Relatives of the singer, found dead by his on-off boyfriend Fadi Fawaz on Christmas Day 2016, say his account does not stand up to scrutiny

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#JusticeForGeorge

by Anonymousreply 340October 1, 2018 11:34 AM

R336 no. You are wrong. I was not talking about his looks. Neither were the articles I mentioned. Please look up dark in the dictionary. There is more than one meaning. Don’t turn this into an”Arab” thing and looks. It is purely about personality and so were the quotes from those who knew him.

Some of these posters lately have nothing between the ears.

by Anonymousreply 341October 1, 2018 11:36 AM

R336. What a fucking idiot.

by Anonymousreply 342October 1, 2018 11:37 AM

And by the way r336 you are a fucking idiot and fadi is not Islamic. He is a Lebanese Christian. Troll.

by Anonymousreply 343October 1, 2018 11:40 AM

R327

Fadi's Angels Invasion

by Anonymousreply 344October 1, 2018 11:46 AM

Chris antoniou george michael's cousin says....... The truth is George wanted Fadi out of his life. Fadi was manipulating, and at times George felt scared of him. He wanted out!!

by Anonymousreply 345October 1, 2018 12:04 PM

He should have filed a restraining order. Don't they have that in the UK? I'm sure the cops would have been supportive of George before Fadi.

by Anonymousreply 346October 1, 2018 12:47 PM

Restraining order?

by Anonymousreply 347October 1, 2018 1:28 PM

An order of protection. For instance Fadi could not get closer than 200 feet of George Michael or he would be arrested and if in the US jailed.

by Anonymousreply 348October 1, 2018 1:31 PM

R348 LOL! GM should have had such thing implemented for his many notorious stalkers.

by Anonymousreply 349October 1, 2018 2:21 PM

R337 No use for FF? Of course, you have! He serves you well as prime scapegoat material and object for baseless bitching.

by Anonymousreply 350October 1, 2018 2:24 PM

R341 There's nothing dark about Fadi's personality. I can confirm this. Ask the people who know the real Fadi. He is adorable.

by Anonymousreply 351October 1, 2018 2:28 PM

Is Fadi starring in videos again?

by Anonymousreply 352October 1, 2018 2:42 PM

R351. You are full of shit and trolling. You do not know him and you are mentally unbalance.

by Anonymousreply 353October 1, 2018 3:31 PM

This thread is called "Fadi Fawaz Saga" and not Fadi Fawaz trashing Saga". Anyone who can't cope reading nice things about that bloke is rather mentally unbalanced.

by Anonymousreply 354October 1, 2018 5:12 PM

R354 Do you know what saga means?

by Anonymousreply 355October 1, 2018 5:16 PM

R354 is the same troll throughout. Just ignore

by Anonymousreply 356October 1, 2018 11:46 PM

Fadi's army (his porn/drugs world friends and family) has left Twitter and took over this thread...

by Anonymousreply 357October 2, 2018 3:51 AM

They have truly taken over with their ridiculous defense of shady fadi. I call them fadiwhores.

by Anonymousreply 358October 2, 2018 3:38 PM

R357 / R358 LOL continue spinning your fantasy ha ha ha

by Anonymousreply 359October 2, 2018 7:12 PM

The High Court in London heard today that Rebekah Brooks obtained unlawful data while she was a top Murdoch employee

There won't be any in the papers, of course. They'll hush this up like they did with John Witherow's illegal behaviour

by Anonymousreply 360October 2, 2018 8:42 PM

R359. What are you 16. You act like an immature teenager. You are the worst type of troll.

by Anonymousreply 361October 2, 2018 11:04 PM

R360 This is old news

by Anonymousreply 362October 3, 2018 1:35 AM

Who cares if Fadi was a porn star? Many rich gay men prefer these hot studs. Look at Marc Jacobs, he's dated nothing but.

If G had wanted rid of Fadi, it would have been easy enough to change the locks and file a restraining order if necessary so G obviously still wanted him around. They were alone together on Christmas Day, none of G's other friends or family there.

by Anonymousreply 363October 3, 2018 9:50 AM

The Spaz Troll and Fadi are in love.

by Anonymousreply 364October 3, 2018 11:23 AM

But certain ones keep bringing FF up. I don't think it's that people don't think he's what some say he is it's that were tired of hearing about him.Why give him the time of day then.As soon as u stop your bitching he will put out another sun story or whatever.I just think people were sad and hurt and moved on.

by Anonymousreply 365October 3, 2018 5:42 PM

R365. There is a difference between bringing him up in comments and gushing about him. The idiot trolls tried to ruin this thread with their defense of shady fadi.

by Anonymousreply 366October 3, 2018 5:48 PM

Fadi was around for delivering drugs he wasn't GM's bf

by Anonymousreply 367October 3, 2018 7:06 PM

R365 and R366 - errrrr is this thread not the Fadi Saga?

R367, you seem somewhat disillusioned- the evidence suggests he was the Bf- people don't move their drug dealers into their houses, take them on holday, show public affection, call them their 'man', talk about how sexy they are, etc. etc.

by Anonymousreply 368October 3, 2018 9:18 PM

^^^ no that's what you do during the infatuation stage but George seemed to get over that quickly. Then he couldn't get rid of him. So he kept him around because all of Fadi's friends had drug connections. Now all those friends have disappeared.

by Anonymousreply 369October 3, 2018 9:56 PM

Bs 369

by Anonymousreply 370October 3, 2018 10:24 PM

R369- What crap! George could've easily got rid of Fadi. If the relationship deteriorated it was probably due to GM's escalating drug/health and mental health problems. All the pictures of the two of them being lovey-dovey are during a period after his pneumonia scare where he had cut back on the drugs and got himself in a fitter state- once he slipped back into his old ways the relationship was no doubt more difficult.

by Anonymousreply 371October 4, 2018 6:52 AM

The idea that Fadi had more drug contacts than G is also naive. Rich celebs like G have the BEST dealers in the business. Fadi was not the one with DUIs coming out of his ears.

by Anonymousreply 372October 4, 2018 8:50 AM

R371 and R372 trolls

by Anonymousreply 373October 4, 2018 10:04 PM

Everyone that states an opinion isn't a troll. Move on

by Anonymousreply 374October 4, 2018 11:06 PM

That so-called Swedish woman who was floating the story of having a long affair and a 20 year old son with GM has stopped tweeting on Twitter but the account remains. On FB she/he carries on with posts and a TheOnlyMrsGKP page and has some GM fans collecting around her and she is telling them she had this great affair and his son etc. Why would somebody persist with this fantasy and fan fiction story and put in this much effort into it? If you look at the timeline since 1997 and the absence of any authentic photos and stories about this it is hard to believe. But this person or persons simply keeps repeating the same thing over and over.

by Anonymousreply 375October 5, 2018 11:47 AM

R373 What's a troll to you- someone who has a different theory to yours? Thicko!

by Anonymousreply 376October 5, 2018 12:28 PM

Couldn’t resist.

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by Anonymousreply 377October 5, 2018 12:54 PM

R375. I am not sure who is more stupid, you or the psycho fanatic who needs mental help. You shouldn't be entertaining that woman psychosis.

by Anonymousreply 378October 5, 2018 2:05 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 379October 5, 2018 5:27 PM

A musical journey into the life of George Michael live at the Palace

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by Anonymousreply 380October 5, 2018 5:27 PM

Has anyone heard of Scott Valentine who says he worked for MTV UK? He tweeted he knows Fadi and what went on Xmas 2016. Tweeted he was present at parties with Gerorge and Fadi in the pasta. Said he has been questioned by some Lawyers and asked to stay quiet. He was singing like a canary but has now locked his twitter account.

by Anonymousreply 381October 5, 2018 8:24 PM

Please fuck off with trying to make this valentine thing happen. We are tired of it.

by Anonymousreply 382October 6, 2018 12:20 AM

Wayne performing Good Morning. I think I will pass.

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by Anonymousreply 383October 6, 2018 1:31 AM

Fadi and the Spaz Troll are engaged, guys.

by Anonymousreply 384October 6, 2018 7:50 AM

Who is Scott Valentine ?

by Anonymousreply 385October 6, 2018 9:29 PM

I don't know why George's crazy fan believe any and everything on Twitter. This Scott Valentine sound's like a crazy person who made-up this friendship with George in his head.

This other guy claiming to be George's cousin. Have no information on George, nor unreleased family photos of him. He just say his name Chris Antoniou then add he is George Michael's cousin. Theses idiots believe him. Well let me start a Twitter account and ask for money, by claiming to be a charity of George Michael.

by Anonymousreply 386October 6, 2018 10:35 PM

While on the subject of George's whore's. In my option they are both the same. The only difference is Kenny's brother assist in him getting something out of the relationship.

While, Fadi did the same an uneducated whore would do. Thinking that once my sugar daddy dies he will take care of me forever. Why? He was already wealth when you got with him. See a smart whore would have gotten George's jewel and the money in the safe and hid it way from the family. No he sat his ass up there thinking George got me, no he did not. Before his fans came in here with the he's still in the house. How long do you guy think that's going to keep going on. Everything comes to an end at some point, nothing last forever. So, I hope Fadi sell some of those paintings that is located within the house. Because the actions he has shown in the last few months, no one is going to make him their sugar baby.

by Anonymousreply 387October 6, 2018 10:44 PM

R387 You must have read too many trashy tabloid articles in which Fadi was called an art dealer. Confusion much?

by Anonymousreply 388October 7, 2018 8:17 AM

R387 I thought the above suggestion was for FF to sell the paintings that GM owned and were on the walls of the house FF is living in. Personally I think FF should just crawl under a rock or go home where he belongs empty handed.

by Anonymousreply 389October 7, 2018 8:22 AM

Can we put the fictional story to rest now?

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by Anonymousreply 390October 7, 2018 1:18 PM

Also that's a good thing I would think if he didn't take anything.George is gone he don't need it.He never was worried about money.Its just all a hot mess now.I would probably just walk away time served for lack of a better word.

by Anonymousreply 391October 7, 2018 5:08 PM

I believe FF has finally been evicted from George's home... And unfortunately, [R390] it seems we just get rid of one nut job freeloader and another takes his place. [R389] I don't think FF has the intelligence to sell artwork. In any case, that's no longer an option for him. He's basically been run out of town and shut up for good.

by Anonymousreply 392October 7, 2018 6:20 PM

Just saw on Yahoo that crazy lady went to the press to say George has a 20 year old.Even they don't believe it but why put it in the paper

by Anonymousreply 393October 7, 2018 6:25 PM

R392 FF was evicted? If it is true funny how it hasn’t been all over social media and the papers. I guess the family handles their business quietly opposed to FF.

Does that mean George’s estate has finally been settled? That would make sense why David is talking about a dance album being released. I would be looking forward to it if it is George singing the songs. I did read David is considering singing. No thank you David.

by Anonymousreply 394October 7, 2018 6:45 PM

LOl...David singing in a GM track! Lordy Lord...No Way😳🙉

by Anonymousreply 395October 7, 2018 8:59 PM

Maybe Fadi is singing ...

by Anonymousreply 396October 7, 2018 9:47 PM

How do we know Fadi is out of George's house? I hope it's true.

by Anonymousreply 397October 7, 2018 11:30 PM

NO proof whatsoever he was evicted. Fake news. Notice the poster r392 said “I believe” but nothing to back it up. I believe in unicorns but that doesn’t make them real.

by Anonymousreply 398October 8, 2018 3:06 AM

NO David dance album stuff either. Ugh this thread is so full of weirdos right now.

by Anonymousreply 399October 8, 2018 3:07 AM

^ a story in the Irish mirror of all places. And nothing saying David would be singing. A bunch of quotes from 2011

by Anonymousreply 400October 8, 2018 3:09 AM

Let's start a new REAL topic on GM

by Anonymousreply 401October 8, 2018 10:20 AM

R398 "I believe" because it happens to be true. A friend who works in security in London told me the eviction had taken place and steps were taken to ensure privacy and secrecy surrounding the action. Yes, I'm hearing of this 2nd hand but my friend has absolutely no reason to lie.

by Anonymousreply 402October 9, 2018 1:08 AM

Chris antoniou George Michaels cousin can reveal today that George had phoned him in Ocotber the year of his death and said that Fadi was intimidating him and even scaring him, and that he wanted to end the relationship and get him out of his life and house.......................

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by Anonymousreply 403October 9, 2018 1:16 AM

George Michael has a love child says Swedish woman Ulrika Lillemor Alfa Wonwolf

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by Anonymousreply 404October 9, 2018 1:19 AM

Please can the deranged troll stop spamming every thread with this fake child story. The same nut remind me of other nuts who still think mj had a black child hidden somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 405October 9, 2018 2:20 AM

R402 “I believe” is not a statement of fact in the English language and neither is “Heard it from a friend”. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 406October 9, 2018 3:06 AM

thouh the only credibility I will give to r402 ‘s story is that Fadi’s spewing to the world about his last moments with George was his final spill and he wasn’t as smart as anyone thought. He could have had his story seriaalized about his whole time with gm and held that story of the final day until then. But he just blabbed out of revenge.

Would love to know more detail about how this was executed. Did fadi know it was coming ? Was he taken by surprise? Was it done in the night? Must have been or he likely would have called the media. Or it hasn’t actually happened is the other option. Not trying to discredit you r402. - apologies for sounding like that. It’s just the 100th time his eviction has been talked about here and it never seems to be the actual case.

by Anonymousreply 407October 9, 2018 3:16 AM

R402 Your friend who works in security must have his own agenda. Working in security and not respecting privacy and secrecy by blabbing to you and intentionally spreading gossip? This guy is definitely not recommendable.

by Anonymousreply 408October 9, 2018 8:51 AM

R398 What a load of bullocks. I just called Fadi and yes, he is still in Regent’s Park house

by Anonymousreply 409October 9, 2018 10:32 AM

R405 Don't bring pedo Jacko's name in every fucking George Michael thread

by Anonymousreply 410October 9, 2018 12:01 PM

No wonder George is not being respectful in his memory. He surround himself with a group of loonies in the last twenty years of his life. This Chris Antoniou "cousin" of George Michaels sounds like a crazy fan. When first reported the tabloids said it was Fadi suing the estate. Cousin Chris said Kenny would never do anything like that to hurt George and his family. George's fans pointed out that Kenny sold his story to the Sun magazine. How Kenny was aware of George's feelings towards the British tabloids especially the Sun magazine. It was also revived that same day that both Fadi and Kenny were suing the George's estate Chris did not know this. Now if he was family would he have some sort of information. I begging to think that some (not all) of George's fans are crazy and believe any and everything they see or read. Critical thinking really does not exist in their world.

by Anonymousreply 411October 9, 2018 2:46 PM

R410. It is just to show the ridiculousness of how fake story spread. why are you so defensive unless you are the nut that posted the absurd article.

by Anonymousreply 412October 9, 2018 3:20 PM

R411 Chris did not even know the name of George’s mom in one post on FB!

by Anonymousreply 413October 9, 2018 3:52 PM

[R413] Tat information is online. SMDH

by Anonymousreply 414October 9, 2018 5:10 PM

He is no cousin and stop repeating lies.your hatred of FF is going to far.ENOUGH

by Anonymousreply 415October 9, 2018 5:58 PM

George sent a text to his drug dealer that he was afraid of Kenny also. It could be just drug paranoia. Also R405. MJ hid Emmanual Lewis under his Wonderland Compound. As far as anyone knows, he's still there.

by Anonymousreply 416October 9, 2018 6:17 PM

How many fucking times does it have to be pointed out that the will has STILL not been filed with the probate court???. If it had, it would be public knowledge and the press would be all over it.

You can't contest a will in court that hasn't even been filed with the court yet, FFS! Everything else is pure conjecture, and people claiming to be "in the know". Absolute bullshit.

The only other scenario that is even remotely plausible is that GM had airtight estate planning, and had trusts set up for his assets, in which case the details of who gets what, when and how, do not have to be disclosed. I'm sure someone with UK legal expertise can explain far better than I can.

by Anonymousreply 417October 9, 2018 9:25 PM

So Fadi and Kenny have another competitor in the EX-GM partner stakes with this Swedish woman and her story. She went to such extents posting non-stop on Social Media and peddling the story to tabloids. The family and estate lawyers should take this head on get official paternity tests done and release the results and put an end to the story forever. Otherwise she will lay low for now and resurface in time

by Anonymousreply 418October 10, 2018 5:45 AM

What I find interesting is that the Swedish woman has been telling people she does not want the attention of the tabs. She could have gone to the tabs much sooner, when the first posts on DL surfaced. So why now?

I think her hand was forced and somebody ratted to the tabs her story

It is too much of a coincidence that the tabs say their source is “George’s friend”. And Scott Valentine who claims he is George’s friend posted on FB and admitted on Twitter he has just sold photos to the tabs. Just after a couple of weeks of saying he sold photos to the tabs, boom! The story of the Swedish woman landed in the press

If there’s a source, my bet is that slimy Scott Valentine

by Anonymousreply 419October 10, 2018 10:09 AM

Damn George you worked your entire life to have 2 fake cousins. 1 crazy ex friend 3 crazy stalkers all over FB YouTube and Twitter.Poor guy couldn't even leave the country in peace.Was he a hot mess YES.But at least he knew it.Not sure what's next but I'm sure it's something

by Anonymousreply 420October 10, 2018 11:41 AM

R419 Scotty Valentine is a fake and dont give him so much credit. he has nothing to do with the Swedish woman stories. Read the tabloid stories carefully.

"She has tried to sell DNA reports and information to various newspapers, claiming they prove George is the biological dad of her son, now 20."

She has been peddling this story to the tabloids until one of them picked it up and then the rest of them are publishing it based on the first story

by Anonymousreply 421October 10, 2018 1:07 PM

I think the crazy psycho fan does stalk any thread on this site that has anything to do with gm. You can tell because the writing style is poor and it is endless ramblings. It is sad that a loser loner psycho fan is living through him. We should not entertain the delusional fanatic. I think the person is European based on his or her terrible grammar. The press decided to report the story because there is nothing positive about him to publish so, they went with the fake rumor.

by Anonymousreply 422October 10, 2018 1:13 PM

Instead of a story about him been indicted into rock n roll hall of a fame, the story about him in the press right now is about psycho fan falsely claiming he made a son with her. Sad. His people dropped the ball.

by Anonymousreply 423October 10, 2018 2:00 PM

It would have been nice to hear he was one of the contender into rock n roll hall of fame not the freak show about his exes and this psycho fan.

by Anonymousreply 424October 10, 2018 2:03 PM

Well maybe he will get into the song writing hall of fame. He deserves both.

by Anonymousreply 425October 10, 2018 3:17 PM

How is he going to be inducted if his name is not submitted as a contender.

by Anonymousreply 426October 10, 2018 3:32 PM

I think if George was ever inducted into either Hall of Fame. The British press would go out its way to smear him in hope he would not get in. Those guys were hate him over there.

by Anonymousreply 427October 10, 2018 5:12 PM

R420 I think you seriously underestimate the number of fake cousins, crazy exes and crazy stalkers.

by Anonymousreply 428October 10, 2018 6:59 PM

Scott Valentine could be a likely contender behind the Alpha saga. He’s went silent on twitter since the Alpha account was deleted. Just an observation!

by Anonymousreply 429October 10, 2018 9:05 PM

Wouldn’t surprise me if Scott Valentine was behind the Alpaha twitter account. She has deleted her account & he’s went silent. He did tweet he sold pics to the media, low & behold look what’s been reported since his statement!

by Anonymousreply 430October 10, 2018 9:14 PM

What pictures did he she it sell?

by Anonymousreply 431October 10, 2018 9:59 PM

Great sleuthing DL! "Scott Valentine" is the Alpha! Poirot couldn't have done a better job. And who is Scott Valentine really? A sad GM would be relative who had fame ripped out from under him? A fat frau behind a keyboard living off the dole in Liverpool? An obsessed male lovely with virginity still intact at 43 years of age. Come on DL. Keep digging.

by Anonymousreply 432October 10, 2018 11:57 PM

The National Enquirer has picked up the Alpha saga. This story gets better each time it is told. I can’t think of any other deceased star that has been dragged through the mud the way George has been.

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by Anonymousreply 433October 11, 2018 1:50 AM

^ So you haven't heard about Whitney or MJ or Prince then..................................

by Anonymousreply 434October 11, 2018 7:55 AM

shocking new DNA evidence proves! A stunning blond Swedish beauty who had a summer affair with George in 1997 has claimed she can produce a paternity test to prove, with 99.9 percent probability, that Kyriacos Panayiotou (George’s real name) is the biological father of the child born the following year! The astonishing test results, insiders have told The National ENQUIRER Opens a New Window. , could result in the boy laying claim to the Wham! hit-maker’s staggering $193 million estate!

by Anonymousreply 435October 11, 2018 8:02 AM

Ex Escort/Porn Star Fadi Fawaz deletes his Twitter

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by Anonymousreply 436October 11, 2018 9:43 AM

He changed his name on FB to Fadi Faraj. According to a twitter statement. Perhaps he is ashamed of how he has betrayed the man he so loved.

by Anonymousreply 437October 11, 2018 11:37 AM

R437 Your post makes no sense

[quote]According to a Twitter statement

LOL whose statement?

He changed his name as he is sick of the abuse he is getting not because of “betrayal” LOL

by Anonymousreply 438October 11, 2018 11:53 AM

Yes I think they don't get that two years later that we don't care about FF.And we don't blame him for George's beginning or end.These are the guys that the singer wanted in his life.April or whatever name you use.Go get back on YouTube you may of missed a video.

by Anonymousreply 439October 11, 2018 12:03 PM

Sometimes it is just so much fun to make a statement to get a few of you to lose your cool.

by Anonymousreply 440October 11, 2018 1:18 PM

By the way who the hell is April or whatever name you use? I wish I had time for YouTube videos. Evidently you do.

by Anonymousreply 441October 11, 2018 1:20 PM

I just watched the freedom doc again on showtime and I kept wondering when it all went wrong. He had the looks, talent and it factor that is unique. It is truly sad he couldn't survive his own dysfunction. towards the end it seems like he became a shell of his former superstar self. He was unrecognizable with the extreme weight gain. The doc just reminds us we lost a truly great artist. I am also upset about how the doc whitewashed his drug addiction troubles.

by Anonymousreply 442October 11, 2018 3:05 PM

I know he lost his partner and mom but there was more going on that greatly affected his drive to keep making music and find true happiness. Drugs and reckless sex addictions was a way to mask deep seated issues.

by Anonymousreply 443October 11, 2018 3:08 PM

Can you imagine being that talented and good looking which by the way he said he hated hearing about.But it's called having it all.Hair,Brown skin pure white teeth flowy hair.People these days would kill for that.Then he could act as well.Tons of GQ articles.Wasted talent

by Anonymousreply 444October 11, 2018 4:03 PM

R436 OMG, who has been in hibernation? The most embarrassing "news" magazine Pink News suddenly realised FF's Twitter account doesn't exist anymore. He actually deleted it on August 9th. R437 As far as his name change on his FB account is concerned, this was picked up by one of the obsessive FF stalkers and posted on Twitter. The likes of Josh Baker (a fat woman from Europe who claims to be a man in the US) make sure not the slightest of FF's movement goes unnoticed and is brought to the attention of all the lovelies who keep telling themselves how irrelevant FF is etc. I would actually recommend Josh Baker to Pink News. She would at least make sure PN is up to date with their irrelevant and slanderous reporting.

by Anonymousreply 445October 11, 2018 4:19 PM

George was at the top of his game when he did MTV's unplugged in 1996. He was seemingly still together and gorgeous looking in 1998 when he was outed. By then he had met Kenny and in the early 2000s he started tearing up cars looking considerably older and unkempt. I don't think coming out was freeing to him. I think he felt like a fraud and spiraled out starting then. I also think the Sony trial took him down a notch which his ego probably needed. And I don't think Anselmo was the great love he framed him to be. For instance. He said Anselmo was in the crowd at the Queen concert. But Lisa Stansfield said that she and George and her boyfriend and Brian May partied all that night after the concert and Anselmo wasn't there. Anselmo was just another grifter. With a nice temperament perhaps but still a grifter. George needed his "grief" to explain away his drug use.

by Anonymousreply 446October 11, 2018 9:06 PM

I'm asking a serious question how did Anselmo help George with his gayness when he wasn't out himself?And didn't George say Anselmo wasn't looking well and he took the test? So he didn't have symptoms of HIV ?So he skipped that and went straight to aids then died less than two years later?So George said he probably caught it in NYC.Is that where he designed?Has anyone ever seen his clothing line on designs?If George was never out how did Anselmo know?In the 90s was there meetups or magazines or what back then I guess in Brazil?When George gets the mail from Anselmo in the video and someone said oh he's giving you a check and George says that a be the day!!!! Damn George that was harsh lol.Anselmo was embarrassed and played it off with a love tap. After awhile I felt like Anselmo was very ill and wanted to get away and go home. Maybe I'm wrong about everything and I apologise I just felt this whole Anselmo thing didn't add up

by Anonymousreply 447October 11, 2018 11:02 PM

By then he had met Kenny and that was the beginning of his downfall.

by Anonymousreply 448October 11, 2018 11:17 PM

[R447] I wonder about that was well. Watching that doc I had more questions then answers.

by Anonymousreply 449October 11, 2018 11:18 PM

The line for Anselmo was that he was a designer from Brazil. Doubtful. There's also a video where Anselmo goes out shopping and George asks to see the receipt and Anselmo doesn't want to show it to him but then he does. George notices the camera catching this exchange and looks embarrassed but then goes back to his music ignoring Anselmo. George of course paid for everything. Who do you trust? Does anyone really love you?

by Anonymousreply 450October 11, 2018 11:22 PM

There's a picture of Anselmo wearing a blue shirt with a ton of packages in white.Was that Christmas day in LA

by Anonymousreply 451October 11, 2018 11:35 PM

So now we have gone back to Anselmo and the great love affair. I think Anselmo was a nice guy and was the true love of GMs life when it happened. But the fact that he fell ill and died raised him to god-like levels in GMs eyes. If he had not died the relationship would have probably lasted 2-3 yrs and eventually George would have moved on. In the end Anselmo and Mother's death as painful as it was, was used by GM as a cover for his worse indulgences

GM was honest when he said with Kenny after a year or two his eyes started wandering. With his addiction to cruising and promiscuous inclinations GM was never going to have a long and lasting relationship. Kenny relationship was a sham with both of them sleeping around and living largely separate lives. Fadi was even worse. For whatever reasons GM had many underlying problems that drove him to sex and drugs. I think he had given up on love and relationships in the 1990s and in the 2000s it just was a relentless downward spiral

He wanted and attracted all these grifters. For good measure he was surrounded by weak people who enabled him in his self-destruction. how can we believe a word that comes out of David Austin's mouth. According to him George was living a happy and contented life and working 7 days a week and dining out everyday in the last years. Yeah right. This guy and people like him were as bad as the grifters who enabled George

by Anonymousreply 452October 12, 2018 5:35 AM

R452. I agree with most of what you stated. My opinion is that if he was so happy in his last year there would have been pictures of him going out and about by fans. the fact that he completely isolated himself from public view and the only picture we have seen so far is the slightly blurry picture of him at a restaurant in 2016. He had gained a lot of weight and he did not look like an healthy person. If we also factor in what fadi states about him probably committing suicide, it paints a picture of a very unhappy person.

by Anonymousreply 453October 12, 2018 12:40 PM

I agree with you for theost part.But I always have to disagree with the enabler bit.Geprge led George, George did the drugs for years did cottaging since a teen.Drank as a teen.Did you read the story that didn't get to much play about him meeting a guy at a bar and they were going to hookup .The guy must of changed his mind by not answering the hotel door at the Hilton hotel London park lane.He was stalking the corridors in a balaclava.

by Anonymousreply 454October 12, 2018 12:42 PM

That is what I have always thought. What do you mean by stalking the corridors in a balaclava. There was two sides to george, the public polished presentable George and the private dysfunctional George. He let you fans see what he wanted you guys to see and hide the craziness from public view. I have always had a feeling he was closeted before he became famous so that whole statement he made about been sexually confused earlier in his career is all pr bull. He was probably sexually reckless in his teen but he was just able to hide it better then.

by Anonymousreply 455October 12, 2018 1:28 PM

Dude was also funny as hell. I do read him as a famous person that wants to sing but also be normal.He really did do some normal everyday people things according to him.

by Anonymousreply 456October 12, 2018 2:28 PM

He wanted to be very famous initially and he was very competitive about that. And then it was not what he imagined it to be but he couldn't go back. I think in his late 30's, ly 40's he really enjoyed being unknown in Texas. Unlike the famewhores of today. But it might have been so he could have his park sex and take his drugs in peace. Not quite as inconspicuous in LA and London.

by Anonymousreply 457October 12, 2018 2:54 PM

Here is the balaclava story with Andros (referred to as Andreas in the tab story) ratting on GM back then

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by Anonymousreply 458October 12, 2018 5:18 PM

Good Lord that's the saddest I have to admit.And to his cousin I know you and him had your ups and downs.Rather you sold a story or what have you.My change of heart is that I know through it all you obviously was there for him.So even though your not a caregiver and was a childhood friend.I hope you find peace regardless.And just know George needed to save George. And maybe I'm the only one that feels this way but i feel he should of left your kids something regardless of how he felt/feels about you.I don't believe in taking things out on kids

by Anonymousreply 459October 12, 2018 6:05 PM

I can’t stop laughing at mostly how ridiculous this story is, but mostly at the idea of GM driving around town with sex toys, weed and bondage shit in his trunk....come on!!! Hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 460October 12, 2018 7:48 PM

What was George's saying ITS WHO I AM. So it doesn't matter what you believe

by Anonymousreply 461October 12, 2018 8:30 PM

Some people will believe anything. Andros of all people, would say anything for a buck. If anything this shows how racist Andros is towards gay people. This piece of crap just stereotype gay men and you think this is a good thing.

by Anonymousreply 462October 13, 2018 12:39 AM

FYI George never lived in Texas, he has always stated that.

by Anonymousreply 463October 13, 2018 12:39 AM

R460 and r462. Believe what you like but it was in the news at the time and there is a photo out there of him partially covered in a balaclava coming out a back entrance of a hotel. He went to the Hilton park lane instead of the Hilton half moon Street in Mayfair. Security had to get him out.

by Anonymousreply 464October 13, 2018 12:54 AM

Quote perhaps? He never stated that.

They owned a condo together then a house in highland park. He enjoyed the anonymity of Texas. David even briefly moved there as he followed George around all the time. That didn’t last long. By 2008 George was never in Texas. Rich people have homes everywhere. A significant chunk of time was spent in Texas after vacating LA.

by Anonymousreply 465October 13, 2018 12:59 AM

Exactly so that just proves who knew what

by Anonymousreply 466October 13, 2018 10:50 AM

The book of Andros is coming out — the one the “estate does not want you to know”

Brace yourself for Andros’ “truth” (or lack of it)

One thing is true — this leech will cash in on George for as long as he lives

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by Anonymousreply 467October 13, 2018 10:55 AM

Regardless of what you or I think. George kept himself in the news doing dumb shit.Nasty shit .And if it was your family member or neighbor or friend would you feel the same?

by Anonymousreply 468October 13, 2018 11:32 AM

R468 Feel what?

by Anonymousreply 469October 13, 2018 12:30 PM

R468. That’s a really great question coming from you.

by Anonymousreply 470October 13, 2018 1:00 PM

In other words we judge family and friends but we Stan for celebs WHY is that?

by Anonymousreply 471October 13, 2018 1:17 PM

R472. It all comes from celeb worship culture. They are not like ordinary people, they are mysterious and special to us. We don't see them as normal humans with issues. So we tend to be overtly protective of them even though we know they messed up. We don't want them to have human moments. They can't even fart or cry we are terrified that they have ruined the fantasy we have of them. R460. It is not hard to believe he drove around with freaky stuffs in his car. You remember the story of when he got arrested and the cops stated they found sex toys in his trunk. He was a mess than we thought.

by Anonymousreply 472October 13, 2018 2:38 PM

So that 2 am hotel run.He knew it was the 5th floor but, didn't know the room.Knocked on the door with the mask on left came back with the mask off.As was said he had the wrong hotel.So with mask off security found him and escorted him out.As being escorted out he reached in his boot and put put the gimp mask back on lol He wanted this hook up bad.Wonder what happened to the guy waiting

by Anonymousreply 473October 13, 2018 2:46 PM

R473 Imagine what happened to the people in the wrong hotel room... Maybe an eldery couple and the lady opened the door and got a bit confused by the look of the room service, lol. Like a bad movie.

by Anonymousreply 474October 13, 2018 5:34 PM

How did Andrew not know GM was gay. He was cruising in his teens. It’s obvious they were not hanging at the same establishments. I like the story where it’s one of the first times George goes home with a guy. George was interested in the man. George goes back another time unannounced and the guy has a friend over. It was a wake up call for George. Probably one of the first times George realizes a one night stand wasn’t the same as a monogamous relationship. Leads me to believe George didn’t always look at cruising in the same light.

by Anonymousreply 475October 13, 2018 7:18 PM

Wow its sad that this is George Michael's legacy. Meanwhile , Boy George will be remember for his talent and being as a mentor The Voice UK. In August 2017, Boy George signed a recording deal with BMG, reuniting him with his songwriting catalogue. Which means he could enter the Song Writer's Hall of Fame before George Michael. More recently, Boy George has released fewer music recordings, splitting his time between songwriting, DJ, writing books, designing clothes, and photography. In 2015, Boy George received an Ivor Novello Award from the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors for Outstanding Services to British Music. Boy George said he was bisexual and had had various girlfriends and boyfriends, in the past. Also In January 2011, George transferred an 18th-century icon of Christ to the Church of Cyprus. George had originally purchased the icon from a London art dealer 11 years after the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. The icon, which had adorned his home for 26 years, had been looted. Boy George returned the icon at the Saints Anargyroi Church, Highgate, North London

Why didn't George do this he is a Cyprus Greek. That's right he was to busy looking for sex, getting arrest, using sex toys in his ass and getting high. See this is why he is/was forgotten in the music industry. That music critic was correct when he said it will be fifty year before George Michael legacy will be fully restored. Hell the gay community don't respect George Michael. So sad for a talent man to go down like that.

by Anonymousreply 476October 13, 2018 7:43 PM

The above stories are just that stories. This is not George’s legacy. We are not judging or bashing George. Seriously you are going to go there with the two Georges. Are you for real?

by Anonymousreply 477October 13, 2018 8:00 PM

R476. You are too funny. Your unconscious shade is refreshing among some in this thread who want to whitewash his image or legacy. Let's not be in denial no matter how ugly it seems. His legacy won't be the debauchery but it will be part of it whether we like it or not. He will be remembered for his music and also I don't have to explain further.

by Anonymousreply 478October 13, 2018 8:09 PM

George's legacy will be his songwriting, singing, and producing, artistry. Why he was demonized by the press more than his contemporaries is anyone's guess but I'm going with the fact he was far more vulnerable and accessible than others in the industry. He struggled with his sexuality and serious depression, and this was reflected in multiple addictions. But Christ, come on, he wasn't the only one cruising and self medicating. What always angered me about "bathroomgate" is that "straight" people - including every male musician who ever lived - did the same damn thing every f'ing day of the week and no one gave a shite. Basically, George was vilified for being gay by a homophobic culture. Sony made it impossible for him to record in America and the UK and US press were vicious. I can't imagine how excruciating it must have been for him to produce music, write, and try to do the one thing he actually loved, amid the acrimony.

BTW Check out the drugs consumed by other "celebrated" musicians.

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by Anonymousreply 479October 13, 2018 10:43 PM

Many Rock Stars are rapists and pedos but you fuckers don't care you only care about George Michael being an addict and closeted in the fucking 1990s because you hate the man and enjoy bashing George Michael

by Anonymousreply 480October 13, 2018 11:00 PM

R455 that whole statement he made about been sexually confused earlier in his career is all pr bull.

fuck you for repeating your horseshit opinions as facts you don't know shit and you already said it 100 times but you just like to repeat

by Anonymousreply 481October 13, 2018 11:00 PM

Half of Hollywood is gay and to this day closeted most of them will probably die in closet and some come out in their 60s or 50s but yeah let's bash George Michael because he was gay and did not come out in 1990s . He wasn't even bearding when he was outed the last woman he dated (fake or real whatever) was 10 years prior to his arrest just shut the fuck up about the whole closet thing and whatever his sexuality was It was none of your business to begin with

by Anonymousreply 482October 13, 2018 11:12 PM

portraying himself as a hetero was part of his contract to Sony when George decided to not beard and downplay his status as sex symbol Sony under promoted LWP in response to his decisions and destroyed his career after the legal battle

by Anonymousreply 483October 13, 2018 11:17 PM

Nobody is bashing George because he was gay. But George was so reckless and self destructive as he admitted himself. Look at all the talent that are hounded because they are out of control. Good press. And then you have others who really know how to keep a low profile and have to seek out the paps for recognition. If you are in several car incidences a year and you absolutely refuse to remedy the situation, like at least use a driver, then you are asking for it. At least subconsciously. How many times was he out there and he didn't get caught. Remember when he hit three parked cars and tried to lie that away? He had an insatiable need for sex when he was blotto. I'm sure he was in a blackout most of these times. And each time he chipped away more of his reputation and that's why he took his life and attempted to the other times. He never could live with what others thought of him. His spiral began in that LA bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 484October 14, 2018 1:02 AM

480 get help it's not mj fault what happened in your obvious sad life.And were talking about GM you can start another post on others you feel are a hot mess.

by Anonymousreply 485October 14, 2018 1:21 AM

The Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Sleaze

24 Musicians Whose Legacies Should Face A #MeToo Reckoning

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by Anonymousreply 486October 14, 2018 1:26 AM

Jimmy Page kidnapped 14-year-old Lori Maddix and raped her.

John Lennon openly admitted that he beat women in his younger years.

James Brown was an extremely violent abuser who beat his second wife, Deirdre Jenkins, to a pulp on a regular basis. She wasn’t the only one. His third wife, Adrienne Rodriguez, had him arrested four times on charges of assault and in 2005 a woman named Jacque Hollander accused him of raping her in 1988.

by Anonymousreply 487October 14, 2018 1:27 AM

Um, Michael Jackson…

Miles Davis beat his wives regularly, by his own admission.

Rolling Stones guitarist, Bill Wyman, “dated” 13 year old Mandy Smith when he was 47, eventually marrying her.

In 1993, Tupac was arrested for sexually abusing a 19-year-old-woman he participated in a gang-rape with three of his friends.

Sid Vicious abused Nancy Spungen and was charged with her murder.

Chuck Berry was convicted of transporting a 14-year-old Indigenous girl across state lines for sex.

Ozzy Osbourne tried to kill his wife (and was subsequently arrested for domestic abuse) in 1989.

Iggy Pop had sex with “baby groupie,” Sable Starr, when she was 13.

Dr. Dre beat up two women in the 90s.

It’s common knowledge that Ike Turner viciously abused Tina Turner while they were together.

by Anonymousreply 488October 14, 2018 1:29 AM

Elvis Presley began pursuing Priscilla Presley when he was 24-years-old and she was only 14. Looking back on their relationship, she said, “I was someone he created. I was just a kid and I was consumed by him. All I desired was not to disappoint him.”

In 1992, Wilson Pickett’s girlfriend, Jean Cusseaux, filed a domestic violence complaint against him.

R. Kelly, raped girl after young girl. (He also married Aaliyah when she was 15.

At 27, Steven Tyler convinced 14-year-old Julia Holcomb’s mother to sign over guardian rights to him so he could take her across state lines with him while he was on tour. Of her relationship with Tyler, Holcomb said, “I was subordinate to him as in a parent relationship and felt I had little control over my life.” She also pointed out that Tyler referred to her as “my Little Oral Annie” in his memoir.

by Anonymousreply 489October 14, 2018 1:30 AM

And finally, Lori Mattix told Thrillist that, in the early ’70s, “[David Bowie] escorted me into the bedroom, gently took off my clothes, and de-virginized me.” She went on:

“Two hours later, I went to check on Sable. She was all fucked up in the living room, walking around, fogging up windows and writing, “I want to fuck David.” I told him what she was doing and that I felt so bad. Bowie said, “Well, darling, bring her in.” That night I lost my virginity and had my first threesome. The next morning, there was banging on the door and it was fucking [Bowie’s wife] Angie.”

This took place when Mattix was around 13 or 14-years-old (some sources say she was 15, but in a vh1 documentary, Mattix says this happened before she was with Jimmy Page (at which point she was only 13 or 14). He also faced rape allegations in 1987.

This list could go on… And while we are free to continue to value and enjoy the music these men produced, the desire to appreciate said music shouldn’t override the truth about rape culture and violence against women that exists behind it. In fact, denying this truth perpetuates the very culture that allowed these abuses to happen in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 490October 14, 2018 1:30 AM

R485 You sympathize with pedo Jackson you are the one with sad life

by Anonymousreply 491October 14, 2018 1:33 AM

Perhaps just start a new thread r486

by Anonymousreply 492October 14, 2018 2:37 AM

George Michael was harmful to himself not others.

If he had it to do over today I bet he would portray himself somewhat different than the “Faith” video. His looks and the way he looked in the black leather jacket and torn jeans with the boots oozed with S.E.X. appeal. The difference between George and most of the other performers regardless of their sexuality was he tried to live a normal life once he realized he didn’t want to be a star in the sense of being on everyone’s radar. In George’s mind living a normal life included living a private life too. By the time George reached his 30’s he had given up on being in a loving relationship that would mean being completely faithful to one person. He was smart enough to realize he didn’t want kids and he became somewhat self-centered and selfish in taking care of his needs. It didn’t change the fact that he was still a caring and generous man. Add drugs and alcohol into the mix and the rest is history.

After 2014 George realized his voice would never be the same and without his music what did he have? Not a whole lot really. He didn’t trust people he had been betrayed by enough of them and I am sure he became really paranoid and sunk into a deep depression. Having health issues on top of all of his other problems would add to his dark depression.

Let’s face it we all have our thoughts about GM. As a fan you can’t sugarcoat his life. He ended up a product of his own self-destruction. It doesn’t take anything away from his music career and the God given talent he was born with. If all the crazies would stay out of the media with their stories people would focus on what really matters ... his music.

by Anonymousreply 493October 14, 2018 2:56 AM

Thanks R493

by Anonymousreply 494October 14, 2018 9:35 AM

[476] Perhaps GM didn't have a looted icon to return!

by Anonymousreply 495October 14, 2018 9:48 AM

No MJ wasn't convicted of ANYTHING.Not saying he didn't do anything.But obsessively going on and on about him on a gate forum makes me think you were sanduskied Get help. Prince can't be left out but ?As I said

by Anonymousreply 496October 14, 2018 12:23 PM

Was GM sexually assaulted?

by Anonymousreply 497October 14, 2018 12:24 PM

Sexually assaulted where. What the hell with your theory. Been sexually assaulted has nothing to do with his drug use and sex hobbies.

by Anonymousreply 498October 14, 2018 2:01 PM

R481. Have a seat some where dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 499October 14, 2018 2:53 PM

Has anyone ever gone to the ranker site for musicians?If I'm reading this correctly.Looks like after his death his sales were up over 2000 percent.And it appears his no1 song of all time is careless whisper. Not sure he would be happy about that song.

by Anonymousreply 500October 14, 2018 3:42 PM

R467 That Andros guy has only way to make money. Ratting on GM. Obviously his useless sons did not get any money in GMs will. The wh*re has been selling stories, Diana tapes, anything and everything. Now this book. GM fans should not buy his books and teach Andros a lesson. No wonder GM kicked him to the kerb ages ago

by Anonymousreply 501October 14, 2018 3:53 PM

It is funny that most of his well known songs are from the 80s to 1990 when he was still closeted and had female love interests in his music videos.

by Anonymousreply 502October 14, 2018 3:58 PM

His music videos weren't documentary films what's your point? he didn't release much material after 1990s

by Anonymousreply 503October 14, 2018 4:35 PM

We need to have a reckoning with the legacy of Jackson

by Anonymousreply 504October 14, 2018 4:39 PM

R503. You missed my point entirely because you just want to be defensive and argumentative for the fun of it. Most people know faith, careless whispers, I want your sex, father figure, too funky and freedom but if you ask them about Jesus to a child or older. They probably haven't heard much of those songs.

by Anonymousreply 505October 14, 2018 5:21 PM

He did release a decent amount of music videos in the 90s for songs like spinning the wheels, fast love and then the early to mid 2000s with freeak , easy affair, and amazing. Years later a music video for white lights. He never stopped making music he just did not have the kind of hit songs he did in the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 506October 14, 2018 5:30 PM

See guys that's just it people know more about his other life instead of his music.Once he passed people started to re follow.So here is what I remember.Wham,Solo, Motown,coming out after arrest, outside,Jesus to a child,Diana funeral,And him being really sick.Freddie tribute A few other things but I went off to UCLA.My room mate took tours near that bathroom God bless him.He had it all.

by Anonymousreply 507October 14, 2018 6:29 PM

R493 By the grace of God GM didn't harm others but every time he was on the road he was a menace. He could have killed someone and he didn't care each time. Sorry not sorry. And no he shouldn't give Andros's sons a dime. Why? His US reality son shows how horribly he was raised by his parents. Untalented, no insight, narcissistic like his father. I think GM got his Will right.

by Anonymousreply 508October 14, 2018 6:36 PM

Andros might be the worst but I don't think things should be taken out on kids you know what I mean.Seems like the celeb in every case is applauded.But everyone else is the enabler or bad or leech or user.In the real world the one with the money is usually in charge

by Anonymousreply 509October 14, 2018 7:28 PM

R493. Yes you are correct. George could be dangerous when he was driving. That is not what I was referring to.

As far as his estatel is concerned apparently his depression, drug and alcohol use did not cloud his judgement when it came to loyalty and loved ones.

by Anonymousreply 510October 14, 2018 7:30 PM

In all honesty how many godchildren did George have?

by Anonymousreply 511October 14, 2018 7:30 PM

The will the to report.Hmmmm

by Anonymousreply 512October 14, 2018 7:32 PM

^^ Is that sentence in the English language ? I think George had one godchild for sure, James. I'm not convinced about the second son of Andro's.

by Anonymousreply 513October 14, 2018 7:47 PM

I think "Everything she wants" is based on his parent's relationship. Not every line but most of them. George was young when he wrote it. What else could he have based it on?

by Anonymousreply 514October 14, 2018 8:37 PM

George was godfather to the following: Shirlie Hollimam & Martin Kemp’s son & daughter, Roman &Harley Moon Kemp. Geri Horner’s daughter, Bluebell (Kenny is also her godparent). Gary Farrow’s oldest daughter. Gary was George’s friend and former P.R. for 30 years. Andro’s son James.

No wonder George didn’t want his own children.

by Anonymousreply 515October 14, 2018 8:37 PM

Being a Godfather is a Catholic thing You just can't say that he is/was the Godfather. They would have to be baptized with George there at the church to witness. George was only at James's church baptism.

by Anonymousreply 516October 14, 2018 8:44 PM

Everything he wants

by Anonymousreply 517October 14, 2018 9:28 PM

R515 you are absolutely incorrect about Bluebell. Kenny only was a godparent - not George and Kenny.

by Anonymousreply 518October 14, 2018 10:41 PM

R516 it is NOT just a catholic “thing.” It is a Greek Orthodox “thing” too. OH and by the way - it is Church of England thing too....and Methodist, and Lutheran, and.... What a dumb statement you made. ANd you made no intelligent point either. How do you know what baptisms he was present for? Just cause you only found one on YouTube doesn’t make the others not true, you idiot.

by Anonymousreply 519October 14, 2018 10:49 PM

R508 but every time he was on the road he was a menace. [bold]He could have killed someone and he didn't care each time. Sorry not sorry. [/bold]

He could have but he did not and he went to prison for driving under the influence and got a five-year ban from driving, period.

by Anonymousreply 520October 14, 2018 10:53 PM

I have no idea about Everything She wants but I think Cars and Trains is about Jack and his relationship with his new wife and also about George

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by Anonymousreply 521October 14, 2018 10:59 PM

R515. I got the Godfather info directly from the book “Bare”.

by Anonymousreply 522October 14, 2018 11:06 PM

Is it true that Kenny has a gf?

by Anonymousreply 523October 14, 2018 11:24 PM

R523 Is he bearding for Geri Halliwell?

by Anonymousreply 524October 14, 2018 11:32 PM

Neither Everything sheWwants or Cars and Trains are about his parents.

by Anonymousreply 525October 15, 2018 3:17 PM

This thread went silent i guess the crazies are bored. Someone start a discussion about George personal dramas. The weirdos will arrive arguing among themselves.

by Anonymousreply 526October 15, 2018 4:11 PM

How long after George’s mum passed did Jack remarry? Isn’t George’s eldest sister a psychologist? If so, I wonder if she chose her field due to her own family situation. Imagine how she must feel not being able to help her brother through his tortured life at times.

I am not judging George or his family just a few random thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 527October 15, 2018 6:34 PM

[R527] Seven years George's mum died in 1997 and his dad remarried in 2004.

by Anonymousreply 528October 15, 2018 6:40 PM

HIs Dad never remarried. She is his partner.

by Anonymousreply 529October 15, 2018 7:22 PM

He married an Iranian woman

by Anonymousreply 530October 15, 2018 8:44 PM

What's her name? she has a son right?

by Anonymousreply 531October 15, 2018 8:45 PM

Yes she is Iranian, yes she has a son but no they are not married.

by Anonymousreply 532October 16, 2018 6:12 AM

They are married

by Anonymousreply 533October 16, 2018 12:44 PM

Does anyone know when George and Mary j recorded the song AS ?That was a banger.He looked great in that video.How old was he then?I know many people didn't like his fu man chu.Seems like a few years later he went all YMCA looking

by Anonymousreply 534October 16, 2018 4:07 PM

As was released in 1999- I agree, he looked gorgeous in the video and very gay. I think the shorn head of later years was very unflattering- I loved him with longer hair.

by Anonymousreply 535October 16, 2018 5:05 PM

What makes you think they are married?

by Anonymousreply 536October 16, 2018 6:17 PM

I like his look a few years before he died. He came into his looks as a middle-aged man with gray beard. The last year before he died he did not look his best. He looked like an angry divorced middle aged man.

by Anonymousreply 537October 16, 2018 6:17 PM

A little history regarding George and Mary J. Blige.

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by Anonymousreply 538October 16, 2018 6:30 PM

What happened with the Alfa woman's story?

by Anonymousreply 539October 17, 2018 8:16 AM

r539. The alpha story went back to the pile of irrelevance it should have been in the first place. Why continue discussing a fake rumor created by a psychological damaged fanatic stalker. Most of us do not wish to breathe life into a derange lunatic psychosis story and I will advise you to do the same and move on from it.

by Anonymousreply 540October 17, 2018 3:54 PM

Is Fadi still living in his house and broke? If you have a rich "partner" who is willing to pay you 10K a month for you company and availability, why is none of these bitches saving up some cash for hard times? I mean George paid for housing, dinner, vacation, cars and other shit probably too.

by Anonymousreply 541October 17, 2018 4:16 PM

R541. Fadi probably has the money he made from George stashed somewhere while pretending to be poor. Most golddiggers do the same thing. They lie that they can't afford daily necessities while hidding the money their generous sugar daddies or mommies give them. It is a ploy to get the estate to porker up more money.

by Anonymousreply 542October 17, 2018 4:23 PM

That I agree on.But he was said to of been sending money home.Im sure Anselmo was probably as well.But I guess that's their agreements.. .But everyone else in his life outside his dad a hard worker and restaurant owner.Where were their incomes

by Anonymousreply 543October 17, 2018 4:23 PM

541 you hurt?or don't you get it?

by Anonymousreply 544October 17, 2018 4:25 PM

Almost everyone surrounded by George benefited from him financially. From his lovers to his team, everyone one was on his payroll. It is very typical in the world of celebs to have large amount of people including family members depend on them for money. That is why most celebs almost kill themselves trying to take care of everyone not just themselves. Well some do succeed in ending it due to the pressure of having to put themselves out there and make money even when they are not ready. I think the pressure might be part of the reason why some turn to drugs even though it is not the only reason.

by Anonymousreply 545October 17, 2018 5:06 PM

Very well put. I just don't understand how someone's entire existence can be focused around one person.Make your own living til you can't.Hell even 18 years olds know that

by Anonymousreply 546October 17, 2018 8:17 PM

If it is true George Michael stabbed himself over 20 times how badly did he injure himself and did he slash areas visible to the public? If he did and he wanted to die that would have been the perfect time to do so. I have trouble believing that one.

by Anonymousreply 547October 19, 2018 6:20 PM

Was that in 2015/2016 ? He’s dressed head to toe.Did family denie ?I guess that’s their job now.Its probably in the coroners report if true.No guessing there

by Anonymousreply 548October 19, 2018 7:09 PM

What did he say happened

by Anonymousreply 549October 19, 2018 11:35 PM

Fadi stated that George stabbed himself 25 times. It is quiet excessive and believable at the same time. We don't know how much of a mess he was both mentally and emotionally. R548 what do you mean by how he dressed in 2015 and 2016. We did not see a lot of pictures of him at that time in his life. The last year the only picture we the public saw was the slightly blurry restaurant picture and that was about it. It was publish after he died. He was virtually a reclusive who probably did not go out at all. We know he gained a lot of weight during 2016.

by Anonymousreply 550October 19, 2018 11:55 PM

Meaning more clothes means can’t see the supposedly knife marks.BTW if true that makes me want to cry

by Anonymousreply 551October 20, 2018 1:40 AM

Self hatred

by Anonymousreply 552October 20, 2018 1:42 AM

R515. Right - Bare was published in 1991 a full 15 yers before the Bluebell was even born. It also contained such nuggets as George was heterosexual. Tony Parsons the author became an outcast in George’s life. So you are still wrong.

by Anonymousreply 553October 20, 2018 2:57 AM

R550 no the blurry picture of him at the restaurant was published in September- before he died - it just seems like after to a lot of you ghouls who only became fans after he died.

by Anonymousreply 554October 20, 2018 3:08 AM

R551. He wore black all the time even before his so called self harm. He always wore a blazer and black t shirt so that is not an indication of self harm. We know it was serious when he went into hiding that the only picture available to the public was the restaurant picture. I don't know how celebs hide in their house for a long period of time and sneak into their car without no one been able to take their picture. Not even fans or neighbors. Maybe more photos will be published or accidentally appear on Google from his last year. That is if most of you are curious since a picture says a thousand words.

by Anonymousreply 555October 20, 2018 3:22 AM

I don't think his alledged suicide was a surprise to his friends, team, family and whores. But it sure was a surprise to some of his fans especially those who haven't been fonllowing or unaware of his troubles over the years.

by Anonymousreply 556October 20, 2018 3:30 AM

You guys all make great points but,the weight loss from September to December is alarming within itself.And by the way I’m of a different type of thinking now.If you followed his entire career or just found him or only came after his death god bless you.Reguarless your a fan. Just seems like his fans didn’t get a chance to say goodbye.Other celebs less known had more love. after their deaths.He may of destroyed his own life MAYBE.But he loved his fans even the craziest.All we can hope for now is for Elton John to maybe do something.EJ was no enabler he was harsh to save his life.Tough love is what he needed.Thats why all the people he fell out with Elton is the one he got back with.Elton shocked his ass and hurt him.And he went hardcore on him. Sadly George was trying to get better after it was to late it seems.

by Anonymousreply 557October 20, 2018 11:10 AM

What weight loss in September to December. Are we sure those so called pictures were in 2016 instead of 2015. I have always suspected that the picture was published to counteract the stories of his weight gain. All his team did was cover-up. The so called fan studio picture might have been a year ago before he died. They released it to make it seem like he was in good health working on a new album like what David stated about him working seven days a week and happy. I will rather believe shady fadi account than his team. George team hide a lot and fadi blew their lead and exposed a lot of his dysfunctional life. What fadi stated is a far cry from the supposed picture of health and wellness.

by Anonymousreply 558October 20, 2018 4:03 PM

I rather believe Fadi too. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 559October 20, 2018 4:08 PM

Sad that he is the one we have to believe out of those liars.What is the timeline from 2011-2016

by Anonymousreply 560October 20, 2018 4:16 PM

Ps What type of re hab allows you to drink while in treatment at 119,000 a month.We as fans need to pull together and make sure they lose their licenses. If he died of fatty liver how didn’t the rehab place know that.Seems to me a slab of test would of showed that. He should of been in hospital.This was curable.George wouldn’t let people help him in life but how bout the ones living a GREAT life on him now and then sue that place.Help him in death.And if I’m wrong about all of this I apologize

by Anonymousreply 561October 20, 2018 4:27 PM

No real rehab .... only money grabbing ripp off ...

by Anonymousreply 562October 20, 2018 4:39 PM

That place is not a rehab but a spa hab. A fancy place for rich famous people to escape the eyes of the fans and paparazzi. It is not a place for long term sobriety. I am sure most rich people that go to those places come out the same addict as they went in, such a waste of money and time. What most of them need is old fashion rehab but their ego will never let them allow someone else to say no to them since, they will never indulge them in their unhealthy habits. What most of those rich famous people need is tough love not someone who look the other way while they continue to self distrupt.

by Anonymousreply 563October 20, 2018 5:49 PM

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by Anonymousreply 564October 20, 2018 7:18 PM

R558 the fan picture was posted by the fan before George's death not after so no that wasn't a lie and cover up by David Austin

by Anonymousreply 565October 20, 2018 7:42 PM

I guess you missed some points I am trying to make in my post. I am not stating that David posted the picture. What I am stating is that we don't know if the picture was 2016. It could have been a year before. Just because it was posted before he died does not mean it was very recent then.

by Anonymousreply 566October 20, 2018 8:02 PM

Meant the picture could have been taken a year before.

by Anonymousreply 567October 20, 2018 8:05 PM

[561] there seems to be an assumption that the fatty liver was alcoholic fatty liver not the non alcoholic fatty liver. Fatty liver is also a potential side effect of drugs used to treat conditions associated with DCM. E.g. amiodarone for arrhythmia. He was reported to be having events requiring ambulance attending and hospitalisation in the years between 2011 and 2016. He could just have been having heart events. His death certificate said DCM with Myocarditis and Fatty Liver on the same line not separate lines. I believe if he developed a number of separate conditions which combine to cause death they would be presented differently on the death cert. The presentation on the death cert suggests he died of DCM caused by Myocarditis and he also developed fatty liver as a result.

by Anonymousreply 568October 21, 2018 1:22 AM

Maybe but the woman appeared in Italian tv about it with a boarding pass from her trip to London over that period etc etc.

I have always felt the restaurant picture was taken at an angle/light that made it look much worse than it was. Or perhaps even altered a little. . I think he was more like the studio shot and the one outside the church at night in goring as well as the one where he is sitting in a cafe and someone is showing him something funny on a phone. He carried a lot of weight in his face and the bad restaurant pic was clearly with freshly buzzed head and facial hair, making it look worse

All that said a few goring gossips claimed in the summer they saw him here and there in the village that last year and he looked not well and like he needed a “good taking care of”.

by Anonymousreply 569October 21, 2018 1:23 AM

Here is George Michael's gravesite. A fan posted this on Twitter yesterday. Another fan has video footage of George finale resting on YouTube.

I thought the public could not view his gravesite?

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by Anonymousreply 570October 21, 2018 3:30 AM

I don't think the ambulance emergencies were caused by heart issues maybe not all. Some could be caused by drug side effects. We have to remember he was a chronic drug user who was also in rehab in 2015.

by Anonymousreply 571October 21, 2018 3:30 AM

Damn George.

by Anonymousreply 572October 21, 2018 4:27 AM

R569. I don't think the restaurant picture was altered. He was so reclusive that the press were probably itching to get a picture of him. I think why the picture was slightly blurry was that the person who took his picture knew he or she shouldn't be doing it. He was having a quiet private meal that has nothing to do with public interest. The restaurant picture was intrusive and probably why it wasn't clear. I mean he went in without anyone been able to take his picture. The fan studio picture could have been old like a year ago. he clearly did not want people taking his picture and wanted to be left alone.

by Anonymousreply 573October 22, 2018 5:21 PM

A of “iI thinks” in there r573 The point r568 made was that the restaurant pic was a bad photo. He carried serious weight in his face in all the final years pictures. A shitty quality photo made it look worse . It looked like a bad shot /angle/lighting to me. Don’t care about your theories on who took it and why. NO shit Sherlock that it was taken surreptitiously. That isn’t the point. It was still a crappy photo.

He was already dead for weeks when the Italian tourist came out with the video of him in studio. The family or pr people had bigger shit to deal Than making the public think he wasn’t quite as fat as he really was by staging /faking the Italian tourist story. He was dead by that point - there was no reason to give a shit about what people thought of his weight.

PS - he was heavy in both shots.

by Anonymousreply 574October 23, 2018 1:50 AM

There were a couple of rare pictures taken in 2016. Like this one. At restaurants people in nearby tables taking pictures without him knowing

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by Anonymousreply 575October 23, 2018 8:37 AM

July 2016 having dinner

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by Anonymousreply 576October 23, 2018 8:39 AM

Taken in 2014 when we first started seeing him with an empty look in his eyes

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by Anonymousreply 577October 23, 2018 8:43 AM

Taken in 2014 by the Turkish singer stalking GMs house at night. He looked medicated and totally out of it

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by Anonymousreply 578October 23, 2018 8:45 AM

Turkish Z-list singer

by Anonymousreply 579October 23, 2018 9:53 AM

I remember seeing that picture of a fan showing him something on her phone. He seems like he was out of it and probably wanted to be left alone in other pictures. You could tell he was faking a smile. Maybe he was severely depressed about a lot of things going on with him. If he was medicate, it sure was really stabilizing his mood. All said and done he is no longer here. Rip. I wonder if those around him kept him medicated to control him. I know the person with the money are in control. It might not have been that during his last years. If they let him do drugs and overload on prescription meds too, they can pull the strings on his behalf. Maybe he realized he was no longer in control of his life due to his poor mental and physical state. Hey I don't think he was in control of his career anymore.

by Anonymousreply 580October 23, 2018 1:04 PM

Why are some of the pictures from 2016 blurry. Maybe because it was intrusive. The picture where he was sitting on the large sofa chair you could barely see his face. It is extremely blurry like it was taking with a 3g phone camera.

by Anonymousreply 581October 23, 2018 5:24 PM

The pictures are blurry because they were taken on a phone from a significant distance across a dimly lit room- probably by a member of the public who was also visiting the restaurant or pub.

by Anonymousreply 582October 23, 2018 7:42 PM

THANKS for the pics and timing of them. You can see how the 2016 pics he has a very bloated face but the rest of him does not appear to be proportionately like his face.

There is another one I can’t find now of him at one of the goring pubs. He’s in a corner and with David and fadi. A fan is pretending to take a selfie but really getting the shot of George futher back in the restaurant. It is either 2015 or 2016.

The Turkish singer a video was quite disturbing when it was around. Jorge was barely keeping track of what was even going on around him. I’ve always found one of the above shots from 2014 also with that couple to look very strange. He didn’t look like himself at all. All of those 2014 shots are of course before he went into rehab which I think was around that time of the paramedics being there for hours in the early spring.

by Anonymousreply 583October 23, 2018 9:38 PM

He did an internet interview in 2014 where he mentioned he was 51 and handsome etc. He seemed quite sharp and funny. But now I'm wandering if someone else didn't answer those questions as him. He wasn't seen anywhere and didn't show for his Symphonica album release. After a bit you can tell he is no longer the writer of his Twitter. 2014 wasn't a good year for him.

by Anonymousreply 584October 23, 2018 10:25 PM

R584 David did the interview I thought it was very obvious

by Anonymousreply 585October 23, 2018 10:31 PM

Exactly r585. Even at the time it seems obvious that it was David. The humour wasn’t George’s smart wit. The one with the cartoon was clearly David. The magazine cover proclaiming “why I finally kicked drugs” was a total joke.

He didn’t even go to his own glittery symphonica release party that March.

by Anonymousreply 586October 23, 2018 10:41 PM

^^^ Do you think George drew the cartoon?

by Anonymousreply 587October 23, 2018 10:42 PM

Weirdly his eyes always have him away.What was going on when he did Eli stone.His eyes were like thyroid eyes.Then years before he had drug eyes.Did his eyes get bad when he fell out that car? Seemed like he had onset dementia or something.The weight gain didn't matter most people once off drugs gain weight.or steroids.Its his look not that he was unattractive .Its hard to call it.He was strange looking.Also after the wrecked car that look and the crazy look he had when he was caught cottaging.

by Anonymousreply 588October 23, 2018 11:32 PM

Have him away.

by Anonymousreply 589October 23, 2018 11:33 PM

R588 Seemed like he had onset dementia or something.

Well did you listened to his last interview? he did not sound happy and healthy but he for sure didn't have dementia

by Anonymousreply 590October 23, 2018 11:37 PM

You can’t give yourself free rein to drugs, alcohol and prescribed medication for years and not pay a high price for your indulgences. I don’t think George had been happy for years. He seemed to have a tendency to self medicate to escape his problems.

I have been reading ‘I’m Coming To Take You To Lunch’ by Simon Napier-Bell per a poster on this thread. From the very beginning George had trust issues. “George had a point of view on every subject that came up. Andrew was more relaxed, accepting George’s opinion on most matters as their joint one. At one point Bell suggested, when they started to earn money, Wham! should put their accounts with Wilson Wright, a well-known City accounting firm. “Why them? George snapped back. Bell shrugged. “They are supposed to be the best, but their are others.” Bottom line, George wanted two firms, not one. George’s reason was so that one can keep an eye on each other.

Bell’s opinion was “Andrew brimmed with self-confidence, as a child he must have been given nothing but love and encouragement. Simon decided George, sometime in his childhood, he must have been let down badly by someone whom he’d put faith. George could shoot mistrust from his eyes like fire from a fire-thrower.

Evidently George’s trust issues started at a very young age. George trusted Andrew. Once Wham! no longer existed George trusted no one.

George’s insecurity’s took over his life with his addictions. No one could get through to him when he was 17 years old let alone 48 years old. Sure his sexual identity played a role but not as much as I first thought. It was more of an excuse for him. It was an easy out. He new he was gay from a really young age.

This is my opinion no one else’s. We are lucky he lived as long as he did.

by Anonymousreply 591October 24, 2018 12:48 AM

R591 glad to hear you got the book! Very insightful isn’t it. You can see why also someone with the personality SNP described would really struggle with rehab, taking others advice etc when problems set in for him. No one was ever going to tell him what to do.

I won’t bring up other stories not knowing how far in you are but one that is fairly interesting springs to mind about his reaction to drinking and driving. Oh how things changed.

Despite those descriptions, people tend to say unanimously during his lifetime that he was a gentle, kind, sweet person. He was full of paradoxes. As are many people I guess.

SNP is a fun writer too.

by Anonymousreply 592October 24, 2018 3:23 AM

I still think George sustained a brain injury in M62 incident.

by Anonymousreply 593October 24, 2018 3:33 PM

R593 I agree that he sustained an Acquired Brain Injury in that incident. It would be quite surprising if he hadn't.

by Anonymousreply 594October 24, 2018 5:23 PM

How do you know r593 and r594. Few posters have been pushing that theory which is not substantial. The fact that he was a chronic drug addict is enough for him to develop long term effects from it without bringing the head injury theory into the equation. Even if he did not have a car accident he might still suffer some long lasting effect from his drug use.

by Anonymousreply 595October 24, 2018 5:32 PM

R595 Yes, chronic drug addiction will bring about long term effects. No disagreement there at all.

However, did you see the aerial photos of the motor vehicle event? Did you see how far he was flung from the car? Did you read the accounts of the witnesses? After the event he was taken to hospital where he stayed for approx. 2 weeks. To me, putting that all together would mean way more than a few sutures and a couple of band aids!

In the end, all of it is conjecture and not substantiated. There's no mention of drug addiction on the Death Certificate, or an Acquired Brain Injury for that matter, and not many facts about what drugs he was taking and how many and how often. So we come here and say what we think.

by Anonymousreply 596October 24, 2018 5:46 PM

R596 You are 100% correct. This thread is where we come to say what we think. Posters need to respect everyone’s opinion even if they do not agree. It’s what makes the world go round.

I did see the aerial photos and read the young lady’s account of what she witnessed. No one stays in the hospital for two weeks unless it is medically necessary. We really will never know how badly his injuries were or what happened to him during other incidents.

by Anonymousreply 597October 24, 2018 6:43 PM

I saw his sliced open looking head in that picture.Did he have brain injury?Did he have hiv? I get he didn't die of it but did he have it?

by Anonymousreply 598October 24, 2018 8:53 PM

R598 Did he have brain injury?Did he have hiv?

What difference it makes to know if he was poz and if he had brain injury and basically to know what mental and physical illnesses he had? and why do you want to know?

by Anonymousreply 599October 24, 2018 9:32 PM

What I don't understand is that why would he want to kill himself in such a public humiliating w ay. It was truly a cry for help. He must have been in a pretty terrible place to want to end it all so publicly. Lets be honest he could have died then. It seems like his death was inevitable. The only people who were shocked was his fans. He did not even care anymore if people witness him dying. Actually thinking of it I could believe the story of him stabbing himself a lot.

by Anonymousreply 600October 25, 2018 2:50 AM
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