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Why does no one ever tell Hyacinth off?

Since someone is posting tons about "Keeping Up Appearances" tonight, I have a question about the show I've never understood the answer to: Why does no one ever, ever say to her, "You're a pretentious, social climbing, stupid cow, and everyone can see right through you"?

I can see why Richard has been beaten down by her, but I don't understand why the neighbors and the postman and everyone else is so cowed by her.

by Anonymousreply 60May 3, 2019 4:42 PM

Middle-class people don't actually tell off their neighbors, dear.

by Anonymousreply 1August 24, 2018 7:07 AM

They are too polite.

by Anonymousreply 2August 24, 2018 7:41 AM

Hyacinth was a big woman and also looked like she would cut a bitch. I wouldn't cross her.

by Anonymousreply 3August 24, 2018 7:46 AM

additionally, They should have told her, Sheldon is gay

by Anonymousreply 4August 24, 2018 10:09 AM

That's "Sheridan," R4.

As for why nobody told her off... it's a British thing. Be polite and maintain decorum above all else.

by Anonymousreply 5August 24, 2018 10:33 AM

Mrs Bucket (pronounced Bouquet, dear) would have glared at you to death for your impertinence.

by Anonymousreply 6August 24, 2018 10:39 AM

OP, it was basically bad writing, but it is very common. The show would have been better if she had a foil. As it was, she program was extremely repetitious. It really only came to life when she got to play against her lower class family. She need someone who could put her in her place, but perhaps enjoyed playing her and leading her on. Basically, she needed a Mapp to her Lucia.

by Anonymousreply 7August 24, 2018 10:42 AM

Pat told off Hyacinth by refusing to do any more episodes. And wouldn't do a Reunion.

by Anonymousreply 8August 24, 2018 10:47 AM

Mrs. Councilman Nugent got a few swipes in.

by Anonymousreply 9August 24, 2018 10:49 AM

I always thought Elizabeth, Daisy, and our Rose functioned as foils, r7.

by Anonymousreply 10August 24, 2018 10:50 AM

I really am not able to find fault with the show. Hyacinth may have put on airs but she never forget her origin. When family needed her, she always rallies to their aid, usually in secret, but she did rally. She wanted so badly to rise above her social standing, as many do. I think the show was loved because we all know someone like her. I didn't realize I knew someone like her, until I saw the show!

by Anonymousreply 11August 24, 2018 10:55 AM

She did nothing wrong.

by Anonymousreply 12August 24, 2018 10:57 AM

R10, then you really don't get the definition of a foil. Elizabeth is not a foil. Onslow is a foil. Rose is sometimes a foil, but most often is not. Mrs. Councill-OR Nugent seemed to have originally been intended as a foil, but that idea was dropped. They really should have added a head of the Women's Institute for her to but heads with.

by Anonymousreply 13August 24, 2018 11:00 AM

Butt heads with

by Anonymousreply 14August 24, 2018 11:02 AM

Fuck! Grr! I tell her off every week! Forgetting about me?

by Anonymousreply 15August 24, 2018 11:03 AM

Onzlo was her polar opposite.

by Anonymousreply 16August 24, 2018 3:49 PM

Same reason none of us tell my mother off!

by Anonymousreply 17August 24, 2018 4:11 PM

Richard actually lost his cool and yelled at her in one episode (forget which one) ...

by Anonymousreply 18August 24, 2018 4:19 PM

Because she was always proper and before the late 90s and reality TV and online commentary, people at least pretended to be polite. Different era - especially in U.K. My mother still lives in this era. Unfortunately - or fortunately - we live in the era of Big Brother. Amazing how the world has changed in 25 years.

by Anonymousreply 19August 24, 2018 4:51 PM

She did get told off a lot on the phone presumably and Richard did loose his cool. It was a comedy.

by Anonymousreply 20August 24, 2018 4:55 PM

I relate because my mother behaves that way but everyone just rolls their eyes at it. Not worth getting upset about. And we all chuckle behind her back.

And there are a lot of henpecked husbands out there who are exactly like Richard - and family members who put up with crazy matriarchal sisters who assume the role of manager of the family and events. These people are my family - for better or worse. But we accept family with all their flaws and strengths.

by Anonymousreply 21August 24, 2018 5:01 PM

My Auntie is a lot like Hyacinth (and my family is British). She’s a raging bitch and all my family are either crying about the way she’s treating them or steaming with red faces. They’d rather die though than tell her what a cow she is. They wouldn’t even know how to go about it. It’s totally a middle class social graces thing.

by Anonymousreply 22August 24, 2018 5:05 PM

It's always the same bits over and over again, every episode. She says something ridiculous in the hallway and Richard looks long-suffering. She gets on the phone with Sheridan and makes clear she has no idea she's gay. She says something horribly snobby to the postman, and glares at him, but he says nothing back. She pops over to Elizabeth's and says something so high-handed that makes Elizabeth such a trembling mess that she practically has a heart attack.

Over and over and over again. That was Dataloungers love this show so much, just like they love "Golden Girls." It's mental comfort food, and almost every episode is exactly the same.

by Anonymousreply 23August 24, 2018 5:09 PM

Back in the late 90's I used to see a clone of RICHARD from Keeping Up Appearances at g lounge in Chelsea. He couldn't get arrested in g lounge. I would stand there thinking he should go to Townhouse on the upper east side. There the gay minnows would swarm around him.

by Anonymousreply 24August 24, 2018 5:19 PM

It would have cost you your invites to her candlelight suppers.

by Anonymousreply 25August 24, 2018 5:23 PM

Same reason nobody ever tells off the Royal Family even though everyone sees right through them.

by Anonymousreply 26August 24, 2018 5:27 PM

Mrs. Bucket would advise that OP should have written "tell off Hyacinth," not "tell Hyacinth off."

by Anonymousreply 27August 24, 2018 5:36 PM

There was an episode where Richard went off at her, and she sulked about it.

by Anonymousreply 28August 24, 2018 5:39 PM

Agree it’s repetitive and not overly funny. Perfect example is the dog bark that surprises her EVERY time she walks up to Daisy and Omslows house. Wholly expected but still chuckle.

The familiarity and mockery of middle class values makes it comfort TV - especially on a Saturday night when we eldergays stay in and have a glass of wine and reminisce about our younger days and the way the world used to be. Similar to Golden Girls - which is funnier.

by Anonymousreply 29August 24, 2018 5:45 PM

If someone from an upper-middle-class or upper-class background had told her off for being a grubby little climber, it would have been tragic rather than funny.

But really, Hyacinth made it a point to never associate with the sort of trash who tell others off. Better than way.

by Anonymousreply 30August 24, 2018 5:48 PM

Perhaps nobody on Hyacinths social level saw the merit in telling her off OP.I mean,it wasn't likely Hyacinth would ever change.So they tolerated her candlelight suppers and illusions of grandeur. Or perhaps,watching her shenanigans ,they found humor.So they let her exist...for their own petty enjoyment.

by Anonymousreply 31August 24, 2018 5:56 PM

Her antics weren't coming from a place of malice... and they knew her background and probably understood her insecurities and lack of self-awareness.

by Anonymousreply 32August 24, 2018 6:30 PM

Richard said she was kind and loving. She did all her wifely duties very well. She cooked well, cleaned well, always presented herself well. Outside of the sack it was perfect. Richard said on one occasion that after Sheridan was born the sex life died off. But that is not an uncommon marital complaint.

Even in the episode about the riverside picnic, Hyacinth was right in there with Richard rowing the boat, while Elizabeth let Emit row and the Vicar's wife let the Vicar do all the rowing.

Hyacinth said "Richard you know I love my family, especially this time of year when it gets dark early," and would always come to their aid.

In one episode Richard did tell Hyacinth off, when Hyacinth was trying to force a man from a phone booth. Richard told her to stop bothering him, wait her turn and then to be quiet and get in the car.

Rose would stand up to Hyacinth, especially the first actress who portrayed Rose as dark and moody and brooding, who seemed to love men because it was an addiction. The next actress portrayed Rose as less those things and more goofy, silly and a free spirit who loved men joyfully, instead of being addicted to them.

As Hyacinth said, when Richard commented that the liked Rose, "Of course you like Rose, all men like Rose. That's her trouble."

by Anonymousreply 33August 24, 2018 6:36 PM

Mary Millar's Rose struck me as more of a drama queen. Shirley Stelfox's Rose was more of a sexy earth mother type.

by Anonymousreply 34August 24, 2018 6:38 PM

Speaking as a gay man, I'll take Mrs. Slocombe's pussy any day.

by Anonymousreply 35August 24, 2018 6:39 PM

The fact that people are intimidated by Hyacinth is part of the premise, the schtick. The vicar is terrified of her, and Elizabeth's brother also avoids her whenever possible. It's exaggerated, not realistic.

by Anonymousreply 36August 24, 2018 6:41 PM

I'm a Brit living in the US, and honestly people are polite here too. Here in my town in NJ no one ever really calls people on their shit either.

Except once my usually polite bestie (originally from Staten Island) called out some cunt for pretending not to remember her for the third time at a cocktail party. That's when I knew we had to be friends forever.

My mum was a bit Hyacinth like, but with a fantastic sense of humour. In her last few years she didn't give a shit though, and let her working class Yorkshire flag fly.

by Anonymousreply 37August 24, 2018 7:01 PM

The old Rose was deeper but the new Rose was more fun - and prettier.

by Anonymousreply 38August 24, 2018 7:58 PM

[quote]Mary Millar's Rose struck me as more of a drama queen. Shirley Stelfox's Rose was more of a sexy earth mother type.

They both died of ovarian cancer.

by Anonymousreply 39August 24, 2018 8:01 PM

R39 I didn’t know. How sad.

by Anonymousreply 40August 24, 2018 8:05 PM

R33 well put

by Anonymousreply 41August 24, 2018 8:23 PM

[quote]Speaking as a gay man, I'll take Mrs. Slocombe's pussy any day.

Of course you would. You'd end up with a rainbow flag of pubic hairs in your teeth after a few weeks.

by Anonymousreply 42August 24, 2018 9:44 PM

The vicar’s wife was kind of a bitch. She was so needlessly jealous of him speaking to any other woman.

by Anonymousreply 43August 24, 2018 11:32 PM

Was it really r43? Dishy Vicar was a pretty apt description of him at the time the show was filmed. When you know your significant other is the hottest one in the room, insecurities rear their ugly heads. Even if deep down you know he or she won't stray.

by Anonymousreply 44August 25, 2018 12:19 AM

[quote]There was an episode where Richard went off at her, and she sulked about it.

"Richard SAVAGED me!"

by Anonymousreply 45August 26, 2018 8:22 PM

She got told off a few times during the show, but no extended dressing down. The point is that she managed to get herself in embarrassing situations by overreaching. She was her own worst enemy.

by Anonymousreply 46August 26, 2018 8:28 PM

Onslow got her good I think in the first season, "Quit your noise you daft, bitch! That goes for you, too, dog!"

On the QE2 episodes a dentist helping Richard goes, "I was just helping this poor man with all this luggage. And he appears to have one piece of baggage too many!"

by Anonymousreply 47August 26, 2018 8:37 PM

Hyacinth clothes: were dropped waist floral chiffon dresses popular among women of a certain age and class in the early 1990s?

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by Anonymousreply 48May 2, 2019 9:27 AM

They still are. For well-bred ladies...

by Anonymousreply 49May 2, 2019 9:33 AM

Is it an example of over 50s semi-formal clothing of the era?

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by Anonymousreply 50May 2, 2019 10:52 AM

Hyacinth is a bit like Erna?

by Anonymousreply 51May 2, 2019 10:56 AM

[quote]It's always the same bits over and over again, every episode.

This matters less when you need to wait a week between episodes. The familiarity of the jokes is far more enjoyable a week apart rather than one after the other the way we watch television now.

Same with all the discussion on Golden Girls continuity errors. You're rarely going to remember what happened three-and-a-half years ago in the era before streaming and internet forums.

by Anonymousreply 52May 2, 2019 1:44 PM

I hated the way Emmett and the vicar and his wife slagged off Hyacinth behind her back.

by Anonymousreply 53May 2, 2019 7:02 PM

The dishy vicar is, indeed, for a vicar, dishy.

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by Anonymousreply 54May 2, 2019 7:27 PM

In R54's photo, that vicar looks very French.

by Anonymousreply 55May 2, 2019 7:30 PM

It's a 90s thing.

by Anonymousreply 56May 3, 2019 4:16 PM

She really did care about her family and had no malice. The people who sneered behind her back were much worse.

by Anonymousreply 57May 3, 2019 4:33 PM

r3

Remember on the golf course when she beat up the thugs and got offered a job.

by Anonymousreply 58May 3, 2019 4:38 PM

People on the phone, trying to order Chinese takeaway, told her off all the time.

I guess if you can't get your spicy prawn balls, you get nasty.

Of course Hyacinth saw no practical use to stick her phone up her jumper amongst other suggested places.

by Anonymousreply 59May 3, 2019 4:41 PM

I had no trouble putting the bitch in her place

by Anonymousreply 60May 3, 2019 4:42 PM
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