Why does no one ever tell Hyacinth off?
Since someone is posting tons about "Keeping Up Appearances" tonight, I have a question about the show I've never understood the answer to: Why does no one ever, ever say to her, "You're a pretentious, social climbing, stupid cow, and everyone can see right through you"?
I can see why Richard has been beaten down by her, but I don't understand why the neighbors and the postman and everyone else is so cowed by her.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 3, 2019 4:42 PM
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Middle-class people don't actually tell off their neighbors, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 24, 2018 7:07 AM
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Hyacinth was a big woman and also looked like she would cut a bitch. I wouldn't cross her.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 24, 2018 7:46 AM
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additionally, They should have told her, Sheldon is gay
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 24, 2018 10:09 AM
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That's "Sheridan," R4.
As for why nobody told her off... it's a British thing. Be polite and maintain decorum above all else.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 24, 2018 10:33 AM
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Mrs Bucket (pronounced Bouquet, dear) would have glared at you to death for your impertinence.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 24, 2018 10:39 AM
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OP, it was basically bad writing, but it is very common. The show would have been better if she had a foil. As it was, she program was extremely repetitious. It really only came to life when she got to play against her lower class family. She need someone who could put her in her place, but perhaps enjoyed playing her and leading her on. Basically, she needed a Mapp to her Lucia.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 24, 2018 10:42 AM
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Pat told off Hyacinth by refusing to do any more episodes. And wouldn't do a Reunion.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 24, 2018 10:47 AM
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Mrs. Councilman Nugent got a few swipes in.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 24, 2018 10:49 AM
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I always thought Elizabeth, Daisy, and our Rose functioned as foils, r7.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 24, 2018 10:50 AM
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I really am not able to find fault with the show. Hyacinth may have put on airs but she never forget her origin. When family needed her, she always rallies to their aid, usually in secret, but she did rally. She wanted so badly to rise above her social standing, as many do. I think the show was loved because we all know someone like her. I didn't realize I knew someone like her, until I saw the show!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 24, 2018 10:55 AM
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R10, then you really don't get the definition of a foil. Elizabeth is not a foil. Onslow is a foil. Rose is sometimes a foil, but most often is not. Mrs. Councill-OR Nugent seemed to have originally been intended as a foil, but that idea was dropped. They really should have added a head of the Women's Institute for her to but heads with.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 24, 2018 11:00 AM
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Fuck! Grr! I tell her off every week! Forgetting about me?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 24, 2018 11:03 AM
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Onzlo was her polar opposite.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 24, 2018 3:49 PM
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Same reason none of us tell my mother off!
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 24, 2018 4:11 PM
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Richard actually lost his cool and yelled at her in one episode (forget which one) ...
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 24, 2018 4:19 PM
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Because she was always proper and before the late 90s and reality TV and online commentary, people at least pretended to be polite. Different era - especially in U.K. My mother still lives in this era. Unfortunately - or fortunately - we live in the era of Big Brother. Amazing how the world has changed in 25 years.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 24, 2018 4:51 PM
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She did get told off a lot on the phone presumably and Richard did loose his cool. It was a comedy.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 24, 2018 4:55 PM
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I relate because my mother behaves that way but everyone just rolls their eyes at it. Not worth getting upset about. And we all chuckle behind her back.
And there are a lot of henpecked husbands out there who are exactly like Richard - and family members who put up with crazy matriarchal sisters who assume the role of manager of the family and events. These people are my family - for better or worse. But we accept family with all their flaws and strengths.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 24, 2018 5:01 PM
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My Auntie is a lot like Hyacinth (and my family is British). She’s a raging bitch and all my family are either crying about the way she’s treating them or steaming with red faces. They’d rather die though than tell her what a cow she is. They wouldn’t even know how to go about it. It’s totally a middle class social graces thing.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 24, 2018 5:05 PM
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It's always the same bits over and over again, every episode. She says something ridiculous in the hallway and Richard looks long-suffering. She gets on the phone with Sheridan and makes clear she has no idea she's gay. She says something horribly snobby to the postman, and glares at him, but he says nothing back. She pops over to Elizabeth's and says something so high-handed that makes Elizabeth such a trembling mess that she practically has a heart attack.
Over and over and over again. That was Dataloungers love this show so much, just like they love "Golden Girls." It's mental comfort food, and almost every episode is exactly the same.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 24, 2018 5:09 PM
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Back in the late 90's I used to see a clone of RICHARD from Keeping Up Appearances at g lounge in Chelsea. He couldn't get arrested in g lounge. I would stand there thinking he should go to Townhouse on the upper east side. There the gay minnows would swarm around him.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 24, 2018 5:19 PM
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It would have cost you your invites to her candlelight suppers.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 24, 2018 5:23 PM
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Same reason nobody ever tells off the Royal Family even though everyone sees right through them.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 24, 2018 5:27 PM
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Mrs. Bucket would advise that OP should have written "tell off Hyacinth," not "tell Hyacinth off."
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 24, 2018 5:36 PM
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There was an episode where Richard went off at her, and she sulked about it.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 24, 2018 5:39 PM
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Agree it’s repetitive and not overly funny. Perfect example is the dog bark that surprises her EVERY time she walks up to Daisy and Omslows house. Wholly expected but still chuckle.
The familiarity and mockery of middle class values makes it comfort TV - especially on a Saturday night when we eldergays stay in and have a glass of wine and reminisce about our younger days and the way the world used to be. Similar to Golden Girls - which is funnier.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 24, 2018 5:45 PM
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If someone from an upper-middle-class or upper-class background had told her off for being a grubby little climber, it would have been tragic rather than funny.
But really, Hyacinth made it a point to never associate with the sort of trash who tell others off. Better than way.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 24, 2018 5:48 PM
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Perhaps nobody on Hyacinths social level saw the merit in telling her off OP.I mean,it wasn't likely Hyacinth would ever change.So they tolerated her candlelight suppers and illusions of grandeur. Or perhaps,watching her shenanigans ,they found humor.So they let her exist...for their own petty enjoyment.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 24, 2018 5:56 PM
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Her antics weren't coming from a place of malice... and they knew her background and probably understood her insecurities and lack of self-awareness.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 24, 2018 6:30 PM
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Richard said she was kind and loving. She did all her wifely duties very well. She cooked well, cleaned well, always presented herself well. Outside of the sack it was perfect. Richard said on one occasion that after Sheridan was born the sex life died off. But that is not an uncommon marital complaint.
Even in the episode about the riverside picnic, Hyacinth was right in there with Richard rowing the boat, while Elizabeth let Emit row and the Vicar's wife let the Vicar do all the rowing.
Hyacinth said "Richard you know I love my family, especially this time of year when it gets dark early," and would always come to their aid.
In one episode Richard did tell Hyacinth off, when Hyacinth was trying to force a man from a phone booth. Richard told her to stop bothering him, wait her turn and then to be quiet and get in the car.
Rose would stand up to Hyacinth, especially the first actress who portrayed Rose as dark and moody and brooding, who seemed to love men because it was an addiction. The next actress portrayed Rose as less those things and more goofy, silly and a free spirit who loved men joyfully, instead of being addicted to them.
As Hyacinth said, when Richard commented that the liked Rose, "Of course you like Rose, all men like Rose. That's her trouble."
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 24, 2018 6:36 PM
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Mary Millar's Rose struck me as more of a drama queen. Shirley Stelfox's Rose was more of a sexy earth mother type.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 24, 2018 6:38 PM
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Speaking as a gay man, I'll take Mrs. Slocombe's pussy any day.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 24, 2018 6:39 PM
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The fact that people are intimidated by Hyacinth is part of the premise, the schtick. The vicar is terrified of her, and Elizabeth's brother also avoids her whenever possible. It's exaggerated, not realistic.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 24, 2018 6:41 PM
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I'm a Brit living in the US, and honestly people are polite here too. Here in my town in NJ no one ever really calls people on their shit either.
Except once my usually polite bestie (originally from Staten Island) called out some cunt for pretending not to remember her for the third time at a cocktail party. That's when I knew we had to be friends forever.
My mum was a bit Hyacinth like, but with a fantastic sense of humour. In her last few years she didn't give a shit though, and let her working class Yorkshire flag fly.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 24, 2018 7:01 PM
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The old Rose was deeper but the new Rose was more fun - and prettier.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 24, 2018 7:58 PM
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[quote]Mary Millar's Rose struck me as more of a drama queen. Shirley Stelfox's Rose was more of a sexy earth mother type.
They both died of ovarian cancer.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 24, 2018 8:01 PM
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R39 I didn’t know. How sad.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 24, 2018 8:05 PM
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[quote]Speaking as a gay man, I'll take Mrs. Slocombe's pussy any day.
Of course you would. You'd end up with a rainbow flag of pubic hairs in your teeth after a few weeks.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 24, 2018 9:44 PM
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The vicar’s wife was kind of a bitch. She was so needlessly jealous of him speaking to any other woman.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 24, 2018 11:32 PM
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Was it really r43? Dishy Vicar was a pretty apt description of him at the time the show was filmed. When you know your significant other is the hottest one in the room, insecurities rear their ugly heads. Even if deep down you know he or she won't stray.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 25, 2018 12:19 AM
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[quote]There was an episode where Richard went off at her, and she sulked about it.
"Richard SAVAGED me!"
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 26, 2018 8:22 PM
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She got told off a few times during the show, but no extended dressing down. The point is that she managed to get herself in embarrassing situations by overreaching. She was her own worst enemy.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 26, 2018 8:28 PM
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Onslow got her good I think in the first season, "Quit your noise you daft, bitch! That goes for you, too, dog!"
On the QE2 episodes a dentist helping Richard goes, "I was just helping this poor man with all this luggage. And he appears to have one piece of baggage too many!"
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 26, 2018 8:37 PM
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Hyacinth clothes: were dropped waist floral chiffon dresses popular among women of a certain age and class in the early 1990s?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 48 | May 2, 2019 9:27 AM
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They still are. For well-bred ladies...
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 2, 2019 9:33 AM
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Is it an example of over 50s semi-formal clothing of the era?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 50 | May 2, 2019 10:52 AM
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Hyacinth is a bit like Erna?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 2, 2019 10:56 AM
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[quote]It's always the same bits over and over again, every episode.
This matters less when you need to wait a week between episodes. The familiarity of the jokes is far more enjoyable a week apart rather than one after the other the way we watch television now.
Same with all the discussion on Golden Girls continuity errors. You're rarely going to remember what happened three-and-a-half years ago in the era before streaming and internet forums.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 2, 2019 1:44 PM
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I hated the way Emmett and the vicar and his wife slagged off Hyacinth behind her back.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 2, 2019 7:02 PM
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The dishy vicar is, indeed, for a vicar, dishy.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 54 | May 2, 2019 7:27 PM
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In R54's photo, that vicar looks very French.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 2, 2019 7:30 PM
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She really did care about her family and had no malice. The people who sneered behind her back were much worse.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 3, 2019 4:33 PM
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r3
Remember on the golf course when she beat up the thugs and got offered a job.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 3, 2019 4:38 PM
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People on the phone, trying to order Chinese takeaway, told her off all the time.
I guess if you can't get your spicy prawn balls, you get nasty.
Of course Hyacinth saw no practical use to stick her phone up her jumper amongst other suggested places.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 3, 2019 4:41 PM
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I had no trouble putting the bitch in her place
by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 3, 2019 4:42 PM
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