I find the most lauded examples underwhelming: David Foster Wallace, Cormac McCarthy, Thomas Pynchon, Jonathan Franzen, etc. etc.
Are there any contemporary novels as good as Proust or Faulkner?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 24, 2018 12:54 AM |
Anne Tyler.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 21, 2018 5:20 PM |
WG Sebald
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 21, 2018 11:11 PM |
I think you meant to write “novelists”; Marcel Proust is a person, not a book.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 22, 2018 12:24 AM |
R3, it's metonymy
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 22, 2018 1:39 AM |
Anne Tyler is good. Alice Munro is so good she's intimidating.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 22, 2018 1:43 AM |
Add
Jeffrey Eugenides, Middlesex
Hilary Mantel, Wolf Hall
David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
Kazuo Ishiguro Remains of the Day
Haruki Murakami Kafka on the Beach
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 22, 2018 3:41 AM |
R6 has good taste. I’d also add the works of Toni Morrison and Zadie Smith.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 22, 2018 3:46 AM |
"Was" by Geoff Ryman. Very moving. Three interwoven stories and times:
Judy Garland during the filming of TWOO
A fictionalized Dorothy Gale from the Baum book, growing up as an abused child.
A young gay man who has AIDS, c. 1995, and is obsessed with Garland.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 22, 2018 4:42 AM |
Probably none today is as groundbreaking.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 22, 2018 4:47 AM |
I think the answer is no. But people like Faulkner don't always make an immediate big splash. (Although Proust sort of did.)
I think Alice Munro will still have a high reputation 50 years from now, but no one else mentioned here. (Anne Tyler? Seriously?)
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 22, 2018 4:54 AM |
[quote] I find the most lauded examples underwhelming: David Foster Wallace, Cormac McCarthy, Thomas Pynchon, Jonathan Franzen, etc. etc.
I don't think anyone other than the desperate editors of TIME Magazine eight years ago would put Franzen in the company of the others. "Freedom" is now considered overrated in terms of how it was initially received, and Franzen is pretty much considered to be a limited talent.
It's odd you left Toni Morrison off your list, since she is more highly lauded than all the others you've mentioned with the exception of Pynchon. Don DeLillo would also belong on that list too.
You're also comparing them to Proust and yet you've listed no French authors: where are Michel Houllebecq and Patrick Modiano?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 22, 2018 4:57 AM |
Orhan Pahmuk?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 22, 2018 7:03 AM |
Agree with you on Franzen and I'm glad to hear someone finally say it. Smarmy, smug little shit with minimal talent. I hate looking at his pinched little face. I finally tried to read one of his books after hearing all the praise and couldn't even get through half of his writing. Atlantic did a pretty good take-down of him a few years ago, I wish i could post links from this device. The funniest part about Franzen is for all of his snot nosed pretentiousness most of his sales were from suburban Frau types buying for their book clubs.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 22, 2018 8:26 AM |
I nominate Andrew Holleran, as a novelist who's a keen and accurate observer of the lives that gay men lead, their inner thoughts and whose style is inevitably poetic, even when he's writing about something mundane . Dancer from the Dance, Nights in Aruba, The Beauty of Men, Grief..... I could gain profound insights into myself and into my gay friends from each of these. However, I don't know if these books would mean anything to a straight person.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 22, 2018 8:43 AM |
OP of course there are contemporary novels that are as good as Proust and Faulkner. I refer you to the short list and long list of the Man Booker Prize.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 23, 2018 1:22 AM |
And I agree with above posters about Jonathan Franzen being overrated. And add in David Foster Wallace.
I am still processing Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell, extraordinary book.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 23, 2018 1:27 AM |
And I recently reread Raymond Carver's short stories (most famous "What we talk about when we talk about love")
American minimalist at its best
Made me want to buy some whiskey and sit on my lawn (if I had one)
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 23, 2018 1:31 AM |
Tom Perrotta
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 23, 2018 1:45 AM |
If you've read Proust you know that he makes the writers on a typical Man Booker list look like amateurs. They're always very good, but Proust is out-of-this-world good - there's no comparison.
There's always good writers around. I think OP is asking about the truly amazing writers who'll be read around the world for centuries.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 23, 2018 3:03 AM |
On a gay website nobody’s mentioning Alan Hollinghurst?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 23, 2018 3:18 AM |
William Trevor
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 23, 2018 3:21 AM |
Ian McEwan
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 23, 2018 3:22 AM |
No author Oprah likes.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 23, 2018 3:22 AM |
Faulkner did admire Proust
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 23, 2018 3:22 AM |
Cormac McCarthy is often accused of imitating Faulkner
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 23, 2018 3:23 AM |
The significant difference between Proust and Faulkner, for Sartre, is that where Proust discovers salvation in time, in the recovery of time past, for Faulkner time is never lost, however much he may want, like a mystic, to forget time. Both writers emphasize the transitoriness of emotion, of the condition of love or misery, or whatever passes because it is transitory in time. "Proust really should have employed a technique like Faulkner's," Sartre legislates, "that was the logical outcome of his metaphysic. Faulkner, however, is a lost man, and because he knows that he is lost he risks pushing his thoughts to its conclusion. Proust is a classicist and a Frenchman; and the French lose themselves with caution and always end by finding themselves.
- John McCormick
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 23, 2018 3:25 AM |
Joyce and Kafka
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 23, 2018 3:25 AM |
So who is this Tom Perdue character and why is everybody looking for him?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 23, 2018 3:28 AM |
[quote] If you've read Proust you know that he makes the writers on a typical Man Booker list look like amateurs. They're always very good, but Proust is out-of-this-world good - there's no comparison...I think OP is asking about the truly amazing writers who'll be read around the world for centuries.
R19, exactly.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 23, 2018 4:10 AM |
[quote]Cormac McCarthy is often accused of imitating Faulkner
because he does
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 23, 2018 5:39 AM |
R20, cause hes a bad writer.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 23, 2018 11:36 PM |
Toni Morrison, Cormac McCarthy, Jose Saramago
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 24, 2018 12:32 AM |
Lots of them - have you read the Harry Potter books? A treasure of the universe !!
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 24, 2018 12:54 AM |