Openly Straight Comedian Jack Whitehall to play Disney's first openly gay character in new film

This is MURDER!!!

/s

Gay Edgar Ramirez will be playing an openly straight character in the same movie! Go figure!

I don't have a problem with a straight guy playing a gay guy.

I have a problem with a character who "will be ‘hugely effete, very camp and very funny."

When being gay is the punchline, they are laughing at you, not with you. It's like a minstrel show.

He looks deranged.

The Jack Whitehall standup routine

Carson Daily lookalike

"We will never stop casting straight actors in gay roles!" vows Hollywood.

I don't have a problem with it although I'm sure there will be some trolls who say this is our version of blackface. If gay can play straight in Hollywood, straight should be able to play gay.

This Jack Whitehall looks very gay in that first picture. He has very starey eyes and gay lips!

Jack is totally charming and adorable.

Jack Whitehall is straight. Shocking.

No actor is straight. He might be bi but straight I doubt it.

Imagine if they cast a white actor as a black man playing an Amos'n'Andy type character.

Same thing

for sometime I assumed he was gay.

Why does it have to be a "very camp" gay character? Most of us don't walk around being very camp but act just like other normal human being.

I hope this character is not stereotypical and cringeworthy.

How else will you know he's gay R15? /s

He played a very camp and biting Marc Bolan in Sky's "Urban Myths" episode "David Bowie and Marc Bolan".  Terrible episode but at least it was entertaining.

I hate his comedy, but that makes me really really want to hate fuck him, hard, til he cries. Lots.

Jack is adorable, very funny and very camp in real life.

And he has a big dick.

Who?

I hate his comedy. Hate it. But he is cute. Always had that British "is he gay" thing going on that we don't really get in the US. He's very U, very Sloan Ranger.

R21 Hate his fucking father too, and that shit show they did together and then the travelling one...together

Witty, but far too posh; it gets tiresome after a while. Dont really care about a straight person playing a gay character. My only issue is that after the furore of scarjo and trans roles it seems like this outrage is only selective to certain members of the 'queer' community. If straights can take gay roles (its not like there arent any gay actors ffs), then cis can take trans ones too, no?

How do we know he's hung?!?

He did a show with Freddie Flintoff, where he did a mud bath and apparently, it looked big mud covered

He is objectively quite attractive. I always run across Jack as I keep track of my lovely Douglas Booth. They are very good friends, or at least attend sporting events together.

R26 Hope they have tricked at least once

Cleans up super nicely.

Edgar Ramirez is gay, r2!? Where have I been!?

[quote] Edgar Ramirez is gay, [R2]!? Where have I been!?

Certainly not in the Edgar Ramirez thread(s).

That's why it's called A C T I N G.

Edgar Ramirez can be either super hot or very meh.

I thought he was DL fave Billy Eichner in this IG post.

Never heard of him, but he's got a very punchable face.

He's gay living in closet doesn't make anyone straight

We’ve covered Ramirez in the “Who will come out...” threads, and the “Actors who out themawlves with social media” threads as well. In excruciating detail, with numerous receipts. Overall, we’ve been discussing him for years. But I guess some people really do come to DL just to reminisce about Judy and Barbara 🙄

Happy for Jack, at any rate.

R21 A male Sloane Ranger is called a Rah.

but won't somebody please think of the children!

R37 ware did you go for yah gap yah?

I'm with R31

Actors pretend to be someone they're not.

The convincing ones are called good actors.

Because R15 they can't explicitly say he's gay or show him expressing himself with a man since China and Russian market are so important. So they'll make him stereotypically gay and flamboyant so the message discreetly gets across. After all it's minstrel and not actually gay propaganda

Think Josh Gad as LeFou.

R39 Tell that to everyone who freaked out when Scarjo was cast as a trans character.

Think Liberace, but MORE camp!

STANK SLEEVE

SPAZZZZZ

The very poor man's Jesse Metcalfe.

He's gay.

Sorry kiddos but that guy is GAY.

Loved the show he did with his father - and his father’s first book

Not my type at all, but he’s funny and has that fey “is he gay or just British?” quality.

R49 Are you an elderbritgay?

Jack has a sweet face but his body looks blanched celery.

I don't care.

He’s adorable and he’s not afraid to show his cock. I approve.

I love me some Jack!! He’s funny and adorable!

You’re funny!, R12!

R54 Where?

Google Jack Whitehall nude. I’d post but I’m in a public place.

He does seem like good fun however a straight man playing a gay character is LITERAL VIOLENCE, so I'm going to have to disapprove completely disproportionately.

R13, see R8.

Fuck. I don't want to see a straight man make fun of us in a Disney film. Sounds horrible.

Makes sense. Disney--campy gay role--straight actor.

Rest assured-------> 'Beard Club' insists he's (predictably) gay, closeted, and (of course) bearding. Or rather, his 6-year bearding contract (with an Asian wife!) expired last year. And he "eye-fucked Luke Evans," according to one of the comments.

Nice chemistry:

I find him irritating in that fey inately superior manner of some English posh, that gets on people’s nerves. However, until he got that silly tan, he had the most enviable poreless ‘pressed talc’ skin. It seems his ex-girl friends are definitely not his fans.

So Jack will play himself in a movie, good to know.

If Disney had asked Luke Evans to play the role one would feel comforted. However, given Whitehall’s schtich is bumbly jazz hands fey, it doesn’t bode well. Disney clearly wants a gay character that telegraphs gay: ie the camp ratched up several notches so the straight audience can reassure themselves that he’s big G gay, and not — horror of horrors — could possibly be one of them

[quote]Or rather, his 6-year bearding contract (with an Asian wife!) expired last year.

A six-year bearding contract? GTFOH

I've said this on other threads - people want to get offended to be offended. I am so sick of the SJW types finding everything offensive. They call it acting for a fucking reason.

Only quoting 'Beard Club', R68.

[quote] I have a problem with a character who "will be ‘hugely effete, very camp

[quote] That's why it's called A C T I N G.

[quote] Actors pretend to be someone they're not.

This is Jack Whitehall we’re talking about. He IS hugely effete and very camp – even in his ordinary life. He’s one of those urban metrosexuals. And he’s a rah-rah, posh Brit on top of that (at that junction where aristocratic manner careens into feyness).

If he plays effete - he’ll just be playing himslef, it won’t even be acting!

....

The Good: I have no desire to see this film.

The Bad: Another straight actor playing a gay character in a high profile film.

The Ugly: Would you self-loathing queens stop reciting the definition of actor throughout the thread? We know the definition, we have the internet too. Complacency is the biggest barrier to change . THERE ARE OPENLY GAY ACTORS IN HOLLYWOOD!!! If they keep getting passed over for gay roles, then what's left for them?

LOVED Jack in Fresh Meat and in Bad Education. Both fucking hilarious.

Only reason most gay men don't have a problem with straight actors playing gay characters is because they think that somehow makes that actor attainable.

I really did think he was gay. Surprised he is not.

But where would that leave poor Jack, R73? :'(

Being a metrosexual Millennial, he can't believably play a normal straight guy either!

Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place...

Is this one of those things where 1 or 2 morons on twitter got outraged and now its a thing?

R13 is correct. That said, we should not boil down representation to identity. But why is it that any other group would be outraged and we just sort understand? I just saw a list of the most important gay books. All of the ones about lesbians by women and at least one of the books about gay men written by a woman. I read the book and liked it. Glad it was written but if any other group was treated like this. I guess the point is to say, "We are evolved on this so please look at how we lead by example."

It wouldn’t matter in the slightest if there were s million gay roles out there. But they are so rare in mainstream cinema that every single one is like a tentpole. When was the last damn time an out gay gay man played a gay role in a mainstream movie. That it takes you some moments to recall bepseaks the problem. I can only recall Rupert Everett in My Best Friends Wedding — which was an eon ago.

Disney needs a kick up its smug tinselled arse.

As much as I adore Jack, I agree with you R80.

[quote]THERE ARE OPENLY GAY ACTORS IN HOLLYWOOD!!! If they keep getting passed over for gay roles, then what's left for them?

Straight roles maybe? Do you really want gay actors to be confined to playing only gay roles? Because I think it's hard to make a living that way. If what we want is for gay and lesbian actors to be able to play all roles, both straight and gay, then gay and lesbian roles will also be open to straight men and women.

Don't be like those hysterical, loathsome trans. The only thing they achieved by shutting down Scarlett Johansson in that tranny role is to ensure the movie will never be made.

Put me in the camp of 'I thought he was gay'.

Honestly, annoying and frustrating as it is to see yet another straight gay in a gay roles, I'm much more angered by the fact they made the character a complete stereotype. What the fuck?

Ugh, *straight guy* not straight gay.

Power shower! Watch this clip from Fresh Meat, where Jack Whitehall’s character is confronted with the fact that his best friend from an exclusive British public school, comes out as gay.

I just wonder how many openly gay actors auditioned or were considered for the role

Probably none, R86.

[italic]Imagine if they cast a white actor as a black man playing an Amos'n'Andy type character.

Same thing[/italic]

No, honey.

OP is another insufferable SJW.

[quote] It wouldn’t matter in the slightest if there were s million gay roles out there. But they are so rare in mainstream cinema that every single one is like a tentpole. When was the last damn time an out gay gay man played a gay role in a mainstream movie.

Oh, honey, come down off your cross. Every fucking tv show has a gay character in it now and every film is putting gay characters in them. Enough. Who fucking cares. Gay actors don’t want to play gay characters.

A lot of closeted actors play gay roles.

Preference should be given to actual gay guys for these roles but if a straight guy is the better actor I don't mind.

You should worry about the actor rather about how the character will be portrayed. And sadly it's another loud, obnoxious, femme camp character that will be related to the main female character or some carmakers character as a sidekick

So, to follow the logic of some posters, gay actors cannot be allowed to play straight characters?

Only if they can play straight believably

I think a guy like Andrew Rannells could've also played a role like this. What's he got going on?

Jack W. doing a rather lame riff on Brokeback Mountain

Tangentially relevant, since it's about TV and not movies

[quote]"It means something to us personally to have these characters on television. It’s still rare for an openly gay actor to play an openly gay character, so the fact that we get to do that is overwhelming every day." -@wcruz73

R97 ...and then he became a gay tv trope and his gay character died, fuck up Wilson

[quote][R97] ...and then he became a gay tv trope and his gay character died, fuck up Wilson

And then the gay character was resurrected for the second season of the show because at a certain point in poorly written science fiction, technology IS essentially magic.

R99 Oh fuck, are they seriously bringing him back for Season 2?

Disney’s decision to cast Jack Whitehall, a closet case, as its first openly gay character in its new film has been attacked online

A source told The Sun that Whitehall’s character would be “hugely effete, very camp and very funny” and confirmed: “He is playing a gay man.”

If Jack Whitehall simply comes out this'll all be fine.

lol at people thinking Jack Whitehall is a closet case. Man, I guess this is how people on DL become obsessed with thinking others are gay and then think because it gets repeated into urban legend here, that 'gossip' has been around forever.

Sorry lads, he is just a posh straight boy. A boring one who likes asian pussy at that. Get over it.

Closet case ≠ Straight

R105?

According to DL it is always okay for str8 actors to make fun of gays on screen. Got it.

R101 Hey, could you 'every man is gay' troll fuck right back to the endless fucking 'Arnie is gay, Sam H is gay' blah blah stupid threads you fucktards start

But Sam H is gay R108

WHo's Arnie?

Travolta is openly straight too LOL

He meant Armie Hammer R110

It’s def fun to guess about celebs’ sexuality....

I guess I understand the attraction of all the people who post about actors “bearding” or w/e. I kind of see those celebs as a lost cause. If it’s really true that this guy is openly dating women, but he’s gay...it’s very unlikely he’s going to ever come out.

And the coming out is what I like, the catharsis of my suspicions and my research being confirmed. So to that end, the only celebs that interest me are (attractive) ones who keep their love lives “private” or who have decent receipts via social media.

Gossiping about Cruise, Trovolta, or even Jack Whitehall’s sexuality just seems pointless. There will be no catharsis. They won’t come out (if they’re gay. The guy has fucked/is fucking vag. He’s basically dead to me.

Jack’s peen.

If they are going to cast a straight actor why couldn't they find someone with a more masculine look. This guy has one of the gayest gay faces ever, and he's ugly too.

"I am so sick of the SJW types finding everything offensive. They call it acting for a fucking reason."

I am so sick of Republicans who attack "SJWs" for being easily offended but get offended by football players engaging in a peaceful protest

"I am so sick of the SJW types finding everything offensive, " he said for the nth time, being offended by the "SJW types" yet again.

R12 is correct; no actor is straight; there's gay, straight, bi, asexual, and actor. They'll do anything with anyone, but are only capable of loving themselves.

Andy Mientus chimes in

Hollywood about gays

R119 I dont give a fuck about 'queer' actor andy minetus or his opinion. He is such a fucking wanker. Queer, this, queer, that. Well, presumably you 'shouldn't' play the character either as you arent gay either. Oh wait, all 'queer' people can play other 'queer' characters. Nice loophole.

I would rather they gave the role to Hilary Swank.

R121 Did he really try to claim he is bisexual in that tweet? Oh MARY, she is dreaming

😘 Hubba - Hubba - Yumm - Yumm - Yummy!

Reminds me of Chandler Massey

Well, I probably will get attacked for this, but I feel the same way about this as I feel about gay-for-pay porn actors. If they're convincing in the scenes they film, I just don't care. I've never seen this guy before. I just see that he has beautiful, blue eyes and full lips, and I'd be happy to see him play some gay scenes if he plays them well. I hope he doesn't fall into silly stereotypes, that's all.

Well, watching, producing, or participating in pornography are sorry passtimes, so there you have it R126.

[quote]I hope he doesn't fall into silly stereotypes, that's all.

By all accounts this is exactly what's in store. I'm less concerned with the fact that this allegedly straight actor's playing the role, but that the role is being described as campy. That's the truly insulting part. I can already see him jumping into The Rock's arms like an idiot at the sight of a crocodile. We're getting another Wiggins. I guarantee it.

Couldn't agree more R128

R123 Do keep up. His whole *career* is screeching how he isnt gay. It seems to work, he has a lot of young female's in his corner. He's tapped that demographic and then goes home to get fucked in the ass by his husband. I mean is clear he is the bottom in that relationship......

Dan Amboyer wants a shot at the role

He's a pretty man and I loved him in Fresh Meat. Hilarious show. I also like his "posh or gay?" British accent.

R125 I agree, in the OP pic anyway he looks somewhat Chambo-adjacent.

R133 Jack has pubic hair

Saw him in Graham Norton once and was absolutely sure he was gay. It figures.

Great for Disney to have our second first gay character be a minstrel of camp, as if this movie idea wasn't bad enough....

[quote]Only quoting 'Beard Club', [R68].

UGH, the worst of the worst. EVERY good-looking man is in a bearded relationship--of course. ONLY the good-looking ones tho.

Basically some gay actors are calling for affirmative action for gays. Gays continue to play straight roles but gays only in gay roles. This is tiresome and is not going to go over with the general public, hunty.

What's up with these incessant fake gay millenials/supporters? Their lives are so fucking perfect they need to rile up at anything! This guy suits the ROLE in this movie. No one complained about Chalamet or Hammer for playing gays on CMBYN

Aww!! Jack is awesome! He's hilarious as the teacher on that show of his. Good for him on being in a major Hollywood picture.

I completely agree, R128.

The whole issue that gay actors should only be cast in gay roles is ridiculous. One's gayness (or otherwise) isn't an irrefutable physical and visible attribute - it's not like a performer's race or a disability. To conflate it within an overarching and overdue discussion about visibility and representation in mainstream culture is disingenuous. Jack Whitehall's own sexuality is as alien to me as his socioeconomic background. Should he also never be cast as a poor person? Would that also be offensive? (FWIW, I can't stand the fucker - but that's neither here nor there.)

And I loathe the fucking performative wokeness of all of this. These Twitterstroms are always whipped up by actors who cloak themselves in claims of progressiveness, but actually the root of their outrage can almost always be summarised as being 'Why wasn't I cast?'

This whole thing is absurd. Let people have their own sexuality and let actors be actors.

*applause* R140

R73 HE should be so lucky...

R83 and the like, It's a fucking FICTIONAL DISNEY MOVIE! NO ONE is taking your non 'effete' gayness away from you!

Whitehall is perfect as a Disney character. He’s basically one in real life (big eyes, big head and stick body).

He reminds me of Rapunzel.

He’s quite funny too.

OP's photo freaks me out every time I see it! Did he just snort a line before he took this photo?

They need to cast him as a big-eyed Princess.

No one is saying that gays should only play gay roles and you old queens know it. And, there was plenty of controversy surrounding Chalamet and Hammers casting initially. But, the movie ended up being good and the queens started drooling over the two actors (and of course gay rumors followed). I'd love to hear this list of openly gay actors who are continuously playing straight characters. I'm willing to bet that the list of straight actors playing gay characters is 10x longer. Of course you old self-hating queens on the DL don't care either way, you don't plan to see this movie anyway and as long as a man is attractive you'll imagine in your head that he is gay, closeted, bicurious, pansexual, or whatever.

[quote]They need to cast him as a big-eyed Princess.

I believe that's exactly what they're doing.

I find his kind of soft body sexy too.

Whitehall apparently voiced a minor character in Frozen - but what they did to his character “Loki” is hilarious. Here’s a clip of the interview:

We've made it up to him! He'll play a big ol' poofter next year!

To be fair, he can’t play anything else. He might not be gay, but he’s even more unbelievable as a straight guy.

If gay actors want affirmative action for gays they should get Congress to pass a law. Since they can't get that, no one would take them seriously , some of them resort to Twitter bullying. Using the mob.

"Basically some gay actors are calling for affirmative action for gays. Gays continue to play straight roles but gays only in gay roles."

Except tons of gay actors are turned down for straight leading man roles. Duh. Why do you think so many actors are in the closet?

"If gay actors want affirmative action for gays they should get Congress to pass a law. Since they can't get that, no one would take them seriously , some of them resort to Twitter bullying. Using the mob."

The "bullying" comes from Republicans like you who attack gays. Your whining about "affirmative action" makes you sound like a dumb Trump voter.

"And I loathe the fucking performative wokeness of all of this. These Twitterstroms are always whipped up by actors who cloak themselves in claims of progressiveness, but actually the root of their outrage can almost always be summarised as being 'Why wasn't I cast?'"

Yawn, more freeper whining. The freepers like you are the ones who get outraged over everything, I bet you complained about football players kneeling.

Why does the gay character have to be a camp stereotype? In the 90s, Disney caught a wave of bad publicity for making its male animated villains effeminate. (i.e. the Lion King)

People comparing this to Call Me By Your Name are silly......those characters weren't camp stereotypes.

I think this is becoming so controversial, because studios don't hire OPENLY gay men for straight characters, but love to cast OPENLY straight people for gay roles. Which leaves what roles for openly gay actors?

The guy coming out to his friend, at r85, is played by Gwilym Lee who played Barnaby's sidekick for a few seasons in Midsomer Murders and is in the TV show Jamestown. IMO Gwilym looks much better with facial hair.

I think it's a bit sad that this controversy is about a minstrel character role for a Disney movie. Like, is that for the history books or something?

[quote] According to The Sun, Whitehall’s character will be ‘hugely effete, very camp and very funny.’

R155's argument consists entirely of name calling.

R145 agreed! So adorable!

R148 R155 = Millenial morons. And I use morons wholeheartedly.

R160 exactly!

At Marlborough, he jacked off with a friend of mine. I guess hijinks at that age. But still. My friend said he had big balls and an average cock.

What about Openly Straight actor Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson?

R165, hot!

R163 I'm always amazed at how you old dusty DL queens are able to drool over and deride millennials simultaneously.

Jack Whitehall is just another privileged asshole actor like Armie Hammer.

At least Armie didn't play his character as a camp stereotype

While I'm sure Armie will wind up in gay heaven for his good works.

In the meantime, openly gay actors are not getting the employment these "straight" guys are getting. And not playing someone as a camp character or otherwise is just not good enough anymore.

openly gay actors are not getting the employment these "closet" guys are getting.

Will they be offering a supporting role to his second chin?

Josh Gad already had that honour in Beauty and the Beast

I hate Josh Gad

I would suck his very effete, very camp straight cock all day long. And then I'd fuck his very effete, very camp hole all night long.

Disney specializes in "cartoons". This is no surprise.

"I would suck his very effete, very camp straight cock all day long. And then I'd fuck his very effete, very camp hole all night long."

I hope you don't have any medical issues that would make taking an enormous does of an ED drug harmful to your health.

We’ve seen his cock. What is his hole like?

Nah I'm good R177 but thanks for your concern.

Now you know why there are so many closet case actors. It pays off in fame and fortune.

R170 because the ROLE wasn't WRITTEN like that!

R171 Stop lying to yourself

Go back to LSA Hoe! R168

[quote]There is more to being a gay person than just sexual orientation. We are an underrepresented minority group and the reason we are criticizing is because sometimes we don't even get the chance to audition for these very few gay roles let alone straight roles because we are gay.

R184 we don't even get the chance to audition for these very few gay roles let alone straight roles because we are gay.

Sad :(

i think you would feel differently if you were an actor and straight men were getting gay parts (especially over the top campy gay roles) at the same time casting directors are telling you that you are two gay to play straight

"Omg I'm white and male! But I still need to let people know that I'm a minority so I can join in on this sjw shit! Let me use my sexuality because I didn't get a role I auditioned for"

Yeah, when will some press release say "openly gay actor will play straightest character ever!"?

Love me some Whitehall! All his fans to the rescue!!!

There is roughly a 90% chance that I will disagree with any hot take on HuffPostQueer. This one included

Why is Disney’s first significant gay character a gay stereotype?

R190 Huffpost is worse than a comic produced by amateurs.

I'm guessing you get all your news from Fox, right?

R193 because those are the only two choices?

Jack is hilarious! Hope he gets monetary compensation for this nonsensical media backlash.

[quote]My only issue is that after the furore of scarjo and trans roles it seems like this outrage is only selective to certain members of the 'queer' community. If straights can take gay roles (its not like there arent any gay actors ffs), then cis can take trans ones too, no?

Sure. It WAS interesting to discover AFTER the geshreying over this that the real character in the story the film was to be based on was AN ACTUAL WOMAN! A butch lesbian who identified as the REAL woman she was!

Talk about "Trans-washing" roles!

R195 In what world is that male hilarious?! What did he observe, and point out that made you laugh out loud?

Wasn't Lucas Grabeel in High School Musical gay?

IMO the only good parts of Into the Woods were Meryl Streep’s fake singing voice and Chris Pine’s very campy performance. He is presumably straight but he did over the top flamboyance very well, and I’ve got no problem with it. Better him than Neil Patrick Harris. Likewise, I’d rather see Wentworth Miller play a moody, brooding character, gay or straight, than either Pine or Harris do that.

Random: I am 100% certain I just typed “than” and this interface changed it to “then.” The A and the E are not that close together, and I am typing slowly because I am paranoid about the pervasive typos on this site. Is there some sort of algorithm that auto-changes what we write to incorrect spellings sometimes? Could that be part of the annoying delay between the time words are typed and when they appear in the text box? Is it done just so that someone can quote it with a snarky “oh, dear”?

Don't lie. Seeing two obviously straight actors have sex onscreen is undoubtedly a turn on, at least for me. Think Stephen Amell in Dante's Cove or Leonardo Dicaprio in Total Eclipse. If the SJW brigade were in effect, all those roles would have been played by unknown actors. Sometimes we don't care about realism and just want the fantasy.

[quote] If the SJW brigade were in effect, all those roles would have been played by unknown actors.

Might as well watch porn at that point.

The problem remains that sexuality seems to be such a big issue, even a dealbreaker, when it comes to actors playing fictional characters. You don't necessarily go "naw, I don't buy actor as serial killer, gangster boss, successful businessman, action hero, or as father!". Sexuality is still a big controversy to this day. Shows you how repressed we still seem to be. Hope that goes away with the old ones dying out and the queer community dominating world view.

R197 - watch Fresh Meat and Bad Teacher. Jack is brilliant and funny in both.

I’m not more turned on by straight men than I am by gay men, R201. I find that convention to be tiresome and it is not true at all for me, and so I suspect it’s either false generally, or else we’ve got a really long way to go before gay men stop hating themselves. Whether in film and television or porn, chemistry between performers is what engages me. Some beautiful people I’ve seen come across like two mannequins being put in kama sutra positions—not a turn on—and some straight guys come off similarly wooden charismatically speaking. But then so do many gay men in a lot of terrible independent gay romance movies. Poor acting is a turnoff across the board. Palpable chemistry is a turnon in almost all cases. I’ve never been physically turned on by a woman, but I’ve even been psychologically charged up by some palpable chemistry between heterosexual couples onscreen, and likewise bored to tears by a lack of it.

Anyway, no, I’m truly not turned on specifically by men who are straight and turned off by men who are gay. If that phenomenon is as pervasive as you guys insist and as porn producers presume, then I really am a freak of nature. I don’t have any social action agenda related to this. My nature is that I am attracted to some guys and not others, and gay mannerisms are not a turnoff to me in any way. I am a little personally offended, being a gay guy, that it seems everyone assumes I’m into this notion of straight men being coerced into gay sex. That’s fucked up to me. It’s predatory. It’s creepy. I don’t want to trick anyone into sex or to coerce anyone who doesn’t want to have sex with me into having sex with me, and to identify as a gay person among gay and straight people alike who assume that all of us fantasize about converting or tricking unwilling or uninterested people into using their dicks on us is one of the few things that does give me pause about identifying as gay. If that’s a standard gay psychology then I am aberrant, and if it’s standard gay psychology then it means most gay men are predatory and sociopathic by nature and maybe we do belong in the DSM-V. I don’t believe it, but everyone has bought into the stereotype.

Ummm okay, R204. Good for you.

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I guess I can see why they cast him. He moves around and acts like a cartoon character. And in the movie, he will play gay opposite Miranda Priestly's bitchy assistant (Emily Blunt.) It's all so very gay without being gay at all.

“He moves around...like a cartoon character.”

So weird, R207. A few times this week I’ve ended up walking to work behind this bodybuilder guy I’ve never seen before who walks like a 1910s cartoon character walks. It’s mesmerizing and kind of freaky. His steps bounce, his joints seem rubbery, and he sort of jerks around. I would think he had some sort of disorder, but he’s very built and so I assume he doesn’t have MS or Parkinson’s or anything.

I’m sort of stunned by how badly Disney has handled this whole debacle from casting to PR announcement. It’s just a complete shitshow from top to bottom. Hollywood really is five decades behind the rest of the country when it comes to gay actors. Catch up, dears.

Jack Whitehall on Graham Norton

Could we come up with a new boilerplate for 'The Independent' links? (@ R106)

I'd rather see the best actor get in the part. Just based on the law of averages, there are far more competent straight actors overall than there are gay actors. It's also important to note that people don't cast just for talent, but star power. More famous actors are going to attract a wider audience. All this isn't to say that gay actors shouldn't be cast in more films, just that it should never have to be a requirement.

"Don't lie. Seeing two obviously straight actors have sex onscreen is undoubtedly a turn on, at least for me. Think Stephen Amell in Dante's Cove or Leonardo Dicaprio in Total Eclipse. If the SJW brigade were in effect, all those roles would have been played by unknown actors. Sometimes we don't care about realism and just want the fantasy."

You sound like a delusional straight guy fetishist, and based on the "SJW" comment you are probably a Trumpster, too. I'm not sure why any of that is relevant, anyway, since there will almost certainly NOT be gay sex scenes in the movie.

Wiki says

[quote] In March 2018, Jack Whitehall joined the cast to portray the brother of Blunt’s character, although there was some backlash from the gay community about a straight actor playing a "camp gay character"....Principal production commenced on May 14, 2018 in Hawaii.

If the above is true, Whitehall is already involved in production since May and most likely can't be replaced. (I thought from some reports that he was just cast and I incorrectly assumed that they had not yet begun filming.)

This faux gay ship has sailed.

I guess Frankie Grande wasn't available.

R198 No, He claims to be straight. Engaged/married last I remember.

I believe Disney didn't actually use the campy and effeminate description of the role. That was either the reporter or Whitehall's press agent.

This would be a moot issue if gay actors weren’t facing discrimination in Hollywood. TV has gotten fairer about casting openly gay actors but movies, big budget ones, still have homophobic casting. Hence the legit outrage

I don't know her

[quote]UGH, the worst of the worst. EVERY good-looking man is in a bearded relationship--of course. ONLY the good-looking ones tho.

UGH, EVERY good looking man is attracted to women--of course. ONLY the ugly/retarded/fat/ or "somehow bad so they have to resort to men instead of women" could possibly be gay. OBV. Because I'm just so beautiful, even when I smell a bit like pee and forgot my makeup.

Wait a minute Jack Whitehall is straight. Nothing straight about his prancing self. I did enjoy his Netflix special with his dad.

R216 Oh well. I still think his character was written and portrayed as a gay stereotype.

Maybe Whitehall is only 3/4 gay.

Comedian John Mulaney explains-

He looks like Michael Weatherly of NCIS fame

Disney has been gay-bashing with flamboyant, minstrel stereotypes lately.

LeFou in their live-action version of Beauty and the Beast was supposed to be inferior and ridiculous for being a sissy.

BATB is set in a world where someone like LaFou would be considered a sissy & someone like & Gaston the “man”. Gaston & his toxic masculinity is ridiculed too in a way. What’s your point R225? So movies should change the inherent logic so as not to offend people like you?

They should've hired Luke Evans.

Openly straight? How brave of him...

A photo from his Twitter account

"Openly straight" = code for "closeted gay"?

Just found this on Youtube. Jack addresses the problems he had with his father because Jack acted so gay as a child . (Also, as an adult.)

Ridiculous manufactured outrage. First of all, he probably can't name the parts of women's anatomy, much less know what they look like. Second, Disney gets to play it as "in your face" to political correctness, thus reassuring straight people they aren't "giving in" to it when of course they are.

ive seen him on tv stuff, he not do it for me, kind of cornball and …. icky.

I don't think they will actually use him when all the shit hits the fan over them using him.

He hates Robert Pattison. Perhaps his only redeeming feature, but takes it way too far in a shocking unprofessional way that you'd think Disney would be incompatible with.

He subconsciously wants to come out! This is his way of showing it.

Jack on set.

Link.

He looks like John Krasinski's dopey little brother at r237

After watching the clips above, I think they made a good choice. He's certainly campy.

Well of course he's campy. How else would you know the character's gay? /s R239

I wish I could hold The Rock's anaconda!!!!

He's not straight. Guarantee it. He pinged for me years ago.

R242 I think he is straight. Look at the clip of him talking about his childhood. His dad hated him being a 'sissy'. Funny thing is, I have seen several interviews of him and his dad when they did their travel series and he wrote Jacks book, and HE seems very 'gay' himself. Its just the posh upperclass thing that pings the gaydar.

To be fair to him/Disney. He isnt 'camping' it up for this character; thats his natural personality. He is just a very fey man. Cute, and I;d fuck him in a heart beat of he was gay, but I highly doubt it. While I know datalounge thinks every man who dates/marries an asian is a closet case, lots of straight white geeks are obsessed with them and Gemma Chan is STUNNINGLY beautiful. They dated for years and years.

His former theatrical agent dad, who worked in the entertainment industry for decades, was homophobic?

His father is like Ian McKellan and Derek Jacobi in "Vicious" at once (at the 2:22 mark).

R244 Dot know about homophobic in that he hates homosexuals, but in jacks work he talks about how his father hated how feminine he was as a child.

He's also in Disney's The Nutcracker and the Four Realms. By nature of Jack being Jack I'm sure this character is campy.

Season 2 - Travels with My Father with Jack Whitehall and his dad starts this Friday on Netflix.

R248 Bet the father voted for Brexit

Disney's Jungle Cruise Has Coming Out Scene with Gay Character... But Avoids the Key Word

he suffers from "gay face".

^^Although the fact that his "gay face" is attractive must help lessen the suffering.