What I never knew existed and can’t live without. We must have a DL dinner party.
I’m making that damn meatloaf.
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What I never knew existed and can’t live without. We must have a DL dinner party.
I’m making that damn meatloaf.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | July 31, 2018 10:55 PM |
You probably need a 1/4 cup of child's blood for each dish.
I don't have any on hand.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 27, 2018 5:40 AM |
Oh R5, planning ahead is crucial.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 27, 2018 5:43 AM |
I read about the Danti-Chips: Potato chips with cheese, ham paste and pickles. Best served with Pepsi!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 27, 2018 6:07 AM |
Joan's meatloaf recipe sounds fabulous. Here is a link to it and a number of other recipes from the STAHS!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 27, 2018 6:15 AM |
Pepsi must have been a main ingredient in that book.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 27, 2018 1:56 PM |
But does she use cognac or burgundy when preparing coq a vin??
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 27, 2018 2:08 PM |
Holy crap - 3 TB (!) seasoned salt in that meatloaf !
by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 27, 2018 2:11 PM |
R11, there are four pounds of meat in that recipe, though.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 27, 2018 2:15 PM |
Joan cooked some *interesting* things. Hitchcock had a good laugh at one of her creations.
[quote]My dear Joan,
In my very rare homosexual moments I often glance through the pages of Vogue, where the other day I saw a magnificent picture of you.
Along-side the picture was a mention of a 'gelée de viande au Madère'. Does not the word viande connotate meat? If so, what is a meat [...] doing on top of a smoked trout? And, with Madeire added, too? Where can one buy such a concoction, or do you make it yourself?
I presume that after the plug you gave to Wynne and Treanor, with whom we have ourselves dealt, you will get fish for free in perpetuity.
Sincerely, Hitch (signed)
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 27, 2018 2:20 PM |
R12 - That still seems like a lot. Plus there's also Worcestershire Sauce & Steak Sauce, which contain a lot of sodium.
I can imagine myself being very thirsty for hours after eating it - although the additional thought of hard boiled eggs in a meatloaf makes it seem even more disgusting.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 27, 2018 2:24 PM |
Salt eschewers are so tiresome. Go away, li'l salt eschewer!
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 27, 2018 2:30 PM |
I will always have a mental image of Joan "hiding" hard boiled eggs inside her meat loaves.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 27, 2018 3:08 PM |
Are there any good drink recipes in the cookbook?
We all know that cocktail hour was the most important meal of the day in the Crawford household.
And what about Spanish dinner recipes?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 27, 2018 3:38 PM |
I got anemia from it. Apparently it contains no iron in the recipes.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 27, 2018 3:56 PM |
How many people so you think that meatloaf serves? I’m cooking for two and would like a little left over, and I’m trying to figure out how to reduce the quantities. I LOATHE meatloaf but am going to make this one because of its provenance.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 27, 2018 7:07 PM |
Any pasta recipes? 'Finally, drain your pasta ...'
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 27, 2018 7:16 PM |
Rum and Pepsis for everyone!
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 27, 2018 7:19 PM |
[quote]I can imagine myself being very thirsty for hours after eating it
That's the point, nimrod.
Now where the hell did Mamacita roll off to with the bar cart??
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 27, 2018 7:21 PM |
R19, cut the recipe in half and you'll have leftovers. Follow the recipe but don't add the salt at the end. As it's written, one tablespoon for three pounds of meat (sausage already has salt included) is okay. One teaspoon of salt per pound of meat is fine but I would go with 3/4 teaspooon myself. Remember, Joan was a heavy smoker and her tastebuds were probably wrecked.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 27, 2018 7:37 PM |
Thanks R25!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 27, 2018 8:04 PM |
I made her peanut butter/bacon canapés. They were ok, not really special. Basically you smear peanut butter on little rounds of toast and broil them, then top with crumbled crisp bacon. She’s mentioned the recipe twice, once in an interview and once in her lifestyle guide. They just seemed dull, maybe they’re more interesting with some vodka and Pepsi.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 27, 2018 8:28 PM |
What the hell isn't, r29?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 27, 2018 9:04 PM |
"Any pasta recipes? 'Finally, drain your pasta ...'"
All my Uncles let Mommie drain their noodles.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 27, 2018 9:26 PM |
The party snax at R7 look vile.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 27, 2018 9:31 PM |
R13, is that really for real, really? How delightfully bitchy of him.
This whole thing reminds me of Mrs. Upson’s recipe for canapés. Tuna in a meat grinder and clam juice and stuff.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 27, 2018 9:41 PM |
Are there any rhubarb recipes in her cookbook?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 27, 2018 11:00 PM |
Even in her recipes, Joan was all class. I made the meatloaf recipe and it was DELISH!!! Everyone got seconds and thirds. And these were gay guys who think an extra tic tac is over indulging.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | July 27, 2018 11:08 PM |
Her apartment on the upper east side was pretty tasteful for the 70s
by Anonymous | reply 36 | July 27, 2018 11:17 PM |
Except for the plastic flowers.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 27, 2018 11:19 PM |
I want this meatloaf now.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 28, 2018 1:50 AM |
Can you imagine the rage that would ensue if one of the Crawford children brought home cilantro instead of parsley for the upcoming dinner?
by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 28, 2018 2:23 AM |
A Pepsi-braised pot roast would be nice
by Anonymous | reply 41 | July 28, 2018 2:58 AM |
I was inspired to go out and buy a Boston Market frozen meatloaf and mashed potato dinner! I've never made meatloaf, and I think I used to hurt my Mom's feelings, because it was one of the few meals she prepared that I never ate.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 28, 2018 3:41 AM |
R40 interesting clip. Their images were so controlled back then.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | July 28, 2018 4:47 AM |
I bought the book. There are no cocktails. There is one pasta recipe, for “Turkey and Noodles Alfredo.” They didn’t have pasta then, you see. They had noodles.
There is a horrifying recipe for “French Banana Salad” that involves slathering half a banana (cut lengthwise) with mayonnaise and covering it with chopped peanuts. Joan called it a “nourishing winter salad.”
by Anonymous | reply 45 | July 28, 2018 5:06 AM |
We have discussed her meatloaf many times here, but I love every discussion. There are quite a few "original" recipes floating around out there - it seems that some of her recipes were published in Vogue decades ago. I followed one recipe (I later found there to exist at least 2 if not 3 that she shared with the world at different times) to a "T' and it was terrible - mostly due to the ridiculously high salt/sodium content (almost an entire bottle of "brown sauce" and way too much of that damned Lawry's seasoned salt that she was so fond of. The hard boiled eggs were not appealing when you cut a slice of the oval loaf (surprise!!!) and neither were the crunchy raw vegetables that should have been sauteed IMHO. Many of the other flavors had promise however (cooking a bad meatloaf is very easy, while making an excellent one is near impossible from a culinary perspective). I liked the addition of pork sausage and I strangely found the addition of green pepper with the red onion to be quite tasty. Her version of meatloaf has an almost Italian flair. I will take one for the team and try out the version listed by OP above and report back here. At the very least this version does not recommend an entire bottle of HP sauce for one meatloaf (BAD idea, trust me). I might dial back the Lawy's as well..
by Anonymous | reply 46 | July 28, 2018 5:07 AM |
Please report back, R 46. I want to try Joan’s loaf, but not “as is,” as it sounds like a salt lick.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | July 28, 2018 5:14 AM |
Be sure to cook in oven until the loaf has browned on the outside, but still raw on the inside. Feed to one ungrateful adopted child with a glass of milk.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | July 28, 2018 5:27 AM |
[quote]Feed to one ungrateful adopted child with a glass of milk.
And give her the rest for breakfast the next day.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | July 28, 2018 1:19 PM |
You couldn’t pay me enough to eat that bitches slop.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | July 28, 2018 1:29 PM |
[quote] bitches
Oh, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | July 28, 2018 1:35 PM |
I pour a can of Campbell's cream of mushroom soup over any entree to dress it up and create a fresh meal!
by Anonymous | reply 52 | July 28, 2018 1:49 PM |
R52 - Thank you Sandra Lee for your contribution.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | July 28, 2018 1:51 PM |
Did Joan use Spanish sausage in her meatloaf, or just plain ol' country sausage?
Have any of you made Katharine Hepburn's brownies? At least they're from a serous and respected thespian and not from some trashy actress like Joan.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | July 28, 2018 4:51 PM |
The meatloaf sounds delicious except for the hard-boiled eggs, which I've always hated (the texture grosses me out). Surely you could leave them out.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | July 29, 2018 9:26 PM |
The image of Ms. Crawford in the kitchen is chilling. I see her angrily slapping down ingredients and banging pans, muttering, "Let's get this shit OUT THERE!"
And at dinner, she'd rip plates away from you before you'd finished, to keep on schedule. ("Hot foods are to be served HOT...cold, COLD!")
by Anonymous | reply 61 | July 29, 2018 10:27 PM |
[quote]And at dinner, she'd rip plates away from you before you'd finished, to keep on schedule. ("Hot foods are to be served HOT...cold, COLD!")
Nah. Just your doily.
[quote]"This failed to put Miss Crawford in her place. She eventually made one action speak louder than all of her unkind words. When finger bowls were set before each guest, she rose halfway out of her chair and leaned across Califano. She then snatched doily and all from in front of Mrs. Douglas and deposited them where Emily Post says they should be. The implication was plain that a girl of humble origins, dining for the first time in such splendor, would not know what to do with a finger bowl unless shown."
by Anonymous | reply 62 | July 29, 2018 10:33 PM |
R58, that photo is unintentionally genius.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | July 29, 2018 10:47 PM |
[quote]r62 Nah. Just your doily.
You also have to image her doing all this drunk...
by Anonymous | reply 64 | July 29, 2018 11:31 PM |
I would love to have gone to a Joan Crawford dinner party. The guests! The conversation! The food! The fashion! I would love to have gotten a sneak peek and Joan's very modern looking kitchen. Such glamour.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | July 30, 2018 4:55 AM |
These recipes can only be admired by a crazy alcoholic, I must say. I may be capable of trying to be an alcoholic sometimes, but I'm not crazy enough to prepare any of these dishes! It's funny what passed as good food back then.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | July 30, 2018 5:44 AM |
This is what I'm fixing for supper tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Joan Crawford’s Pork Chops with Red Onions and Apple Rings for four to six
6 loin pork chops, one inch thick
¼ pound margarine or butter
2 large Italian red onions, sliced
1 cup flour
Lawry’s Seasoned Salt
Salt chops on both sides. Dip lightly in flour. Place chops in ¼ pound melted butter or margarine in skillet. Add sliced onions and cook till golden. When onions are cooked, place on top of chops. Brown chops on one side, then turn, replacing onions on the top side. Place chops in skillet in preheated 250° oven. Cover. Cook 15 minutes. Then reduce oven heat to 200° and bake for an additional 25 minutes. Top each chop with 2 fried apple rings.
Joan Crawford’s Fried Apple Rings
4 green apples
¼ pound margarine or butter
Lemon juice
Cinnamon
Nutmeg
Brown sugar
Core and slice apples into thick rings, but do not peel. Sprinkle with lemon juice. Heat margarine or butter in skillet. Fry apples first on one side, then the other, until brown but not mushy. This is a matter of a very few minutes. While frying, sprinkle top sides of apples with cinnamon, nutmeg, and brown sugar to taste. Keep warm until all are done.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | July 30, 2018 6:27 AM |
R67 - I did try this recipe about 1.5 years ago and luckily it was not cooked for a crowd but rather for a friend and I. I followed it to a "T" (using butter vs. margarine obviously!) and we were both underwhelmed. The food was OK but very bland and not caramelized properly (to my liking). It was by no means terrible, but I would never repeat it either. It needs some help and I would use other techniques to achieve better results for this dish. That said, the Joan pedigree made for a fun evening nonetheless.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | July 30, 2018 6:37 AM |
The chops and apples seem like the most viable of the recipes in this thread. She could have used some fresh or dried sage to amp up the flavour, and possibly a bit of thyme too.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | July 30, 2018 6:40 AM |
Eww R59 she let a cat walk around on her kitchen countertops?
by Anonymous | reply 70 | July 30, 2018 6:41 AM |
I think Joan owned stock in Lawry's.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | July 30, 2018 6:44 AM |
Her sweet and spicy coleslaw is good
by Anonymous | reply 72 | July 30, 2018 7:03 AM |
Did those spoiled brats ever once thank Joan for the delicious and nutrient dense food she prepared for them? Probably not.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | July 30, 2018 7:21 AM |
The brainwashed twins did.
They say she was the most BESTEST mommie, EVER! (Even though she didn't even have a room for them in her house.)
by Anonymous | reply 74 | July 30, 2018 7:41 AM |
" .... for a friend and I. "
Ha, ha!
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Now what have you learned today?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | July 30, 2018 11:54 AM |
Another “french banana,” anyone? It’s nourishing and full of vitamins!
by Anonymous | reply 76 | July 30, 2018 4:19 PM |
^Yuck
by Anonymous | reply 77 | July 31, 2018 8:25 AM |
[quote]Where can one buy such a concoction, or do you make it yourself?
Smell you, Al.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | July 31, 2018 9:37 AM |
Has anyone here ever made the Dantichips?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | July 31, 2018 3:18 PM |
I made her meatloaf. It was fine except the hardboiled eggs overcooked inside the loaf and the whites started breaking down into some kind of translucent protein. That part was not appetizing.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | July 31, 2018 3:25 PM |
AREN'T THE PIES ENOUGH?
by Anonymous | reply 84 | July 31, 2018 3:36 PM |
The translucent protein is the best part!
by Anonymous | reply 87 | July 31, 2018 4:59 PM |
Check out Joan's amazing kitchen, in 1959! This must've looked beyond extravagant to the average American back in those days.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | July 31, 2018 5:11 PM |
I had to follow up on that account of Joan treating Mrs. William O. Douglas poorly. Turns out, the young lady was the justice's fourth wife, and the second of which with roughly a 40 year age difference. (She did stay with him until he died in the early '80s, however.) At the time, there was much publicity about the impropriety of the situation, so Joan obviously felt like taking matters into her own hands to make her disapproval known.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | July 31, 2018 5:54 PM |
Joan was so poor when she was young. Dirt poor. She was haunted by the possibility of dirt and poverty returning to her life. And of having to take in laundry like her mother. 'No wire hangers...'
by Anonymous | reply 90 | July 31, 2018 5:59 PM |
Can you just imagine running into Joan at the market? God forbid you're in the 15-Items-or-Less line and have 16 items.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | July 31, 2018 6:24 PM |
Would Joan have appreciated it if you approached her as a fan, or would she have been offended to have her space violated?
by Anonymous | reply 93 | July 31, 2018 6:55 PM |
Joan worshipped her fans and basked in their adoration.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | July 31, 2018 7:00 PM |
She would have stopped and presented hole.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | July 31, 2018 7:09 PM |
I HATE running into Joan at the market. She's always critical of my t-shirt and dungarees.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | July 31, 2018 7:13 PM |
R76 looks like a photo off of a dermatological disease website.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | July 31, 2018 7:18 PM |
Joan loved her fans very much. She spent hours each day answering fan letters. She interacted with them up until the day she died, one of her longtime fans became a friend and he was staying as her guest as she was dying. She cooked him breakfast but didn’t feel well enough to eat, went to lay down in her room and died.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | July 31, 2018 8:26 PM |
She had to let Helga go.....
by Anonymous | reply 99 | July 31, 2018 8:30 PM |
So she WAS mad at her after all, r99?
by Anonymous | reply 100 | July 31, 2018 8:34 PM |
Helga did not meet expectations.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | July 31, 2018 8:39 PM |
I have an oil painting that was done by Miss Crawford
It is an absolute horror. She left her "art" to Brandeis University. I think they keep it all in the basement. As they should.
My dad was a collector and found it on the Cape (Orleans or Chatham) where I'm originally from. I had no idea who she was but my dad thought it was funny. It's really, really awful.
Not as fun as the Pia stuff, but thought I'd throw it out there.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | July 31, 2018 8:42 PM |
Wait, a painting BY Crawford? Why is this just coming up now? Where have you been? Why has this not been mentioned before? Pic please.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | July 31, 2018 8:50 PM |
Post it R102!!!
by Anonymous | reply 104 | July 31, 2018 8:50 PM |
What is it a painting of, R102? You should take a pic of it and send it to the site linked below. The site owner collects anything and everything Joan.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | July 31, 2018 8:50 PM |
The painting is awful. Its a landscape and from what I've found, she did several.
I'm pretty sure the actual painting is still at my mothers' cottage in Hyannisport. It's been a family joke for years.
I've never been able to find an image of her "works" on line.
If anybody could dig something up, I'd love to see it.
My other awful painting is by Paul Swan, an Andy Warhol star and another nut case.
Let's see what comes of this. This is why I bother.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | July 31, 2018 9:27 PM |
Helga wouldn't move the plant. She was too busy eating Dantichips and watching The Secret Storm.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | July 31, 2018 9:46 PM |
It has always saddened me that Miss Crawford's legacy has been reduced to that hatchet job "Mommie Dearest" Miss Crawford was a layered, complex lady and, like all of us, she had her demons. But she was so much more than a caricature, so much more.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | July 31, 2018 9:57 PM |
There are two paintings that she did here, R106. Not landscapes though.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | July 31, 2018 10:11 PM |
OMG that CANNOT be a self portrait. It is fucking brilliant and really captures the truth.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | July 31, 2018 10:47 PM |
This one of her paintings isn't bad (notice the cigarette, of course).
by Anonymous | reply 112 | July 31, 2018 10:50 PM |
And here's Joan posing with the painting at R112, which she painted to benefit the Urban League. It's such a poignant picture. You can see the insecurity and the eagerness to please.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | July 31, 2018 10:53 PM |
You can sit on Joanie's lap, as all boys dream of doing
by Anonymous | reply 116 | July 31, 2018 10:54 PM |
The artist is David Starr. David dear we know you are here. Say hello.
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