That naughtiest of 70's movies, will be airing on TCM late night (Wed/Thurs) at 2:30 a.m. Eastern, 11:30 p.m Pacific.
See what all the fuss was about!
Robert Osborne would NEVER have allowed this... lol.
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That naughtiest of 70's movies, will be airing on TCM late night (Wed/Thurs) at 2:30 a.m. Eastern, 11:30 p.m Pacific.
See what all the fuss was about!
Robert Osborne would NEVER have allowed this... lol.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | August 22, 2018 8:19 PM |
Perry King was beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 25, 2018 9:55 PM |
Perry King. Yum.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 25, 2018 9:56 PM |
Screenplay by Norman Wexler ( Serpico, Saturday Night Fever, Joe.) He was nominated for an Oscar for both Joe and Serpico.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 25, 2018 9:56 PM |
Robert Osborne is probably turning over in his grave.
TCM has really sunk.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 25, 2018 9:57 PM |
Will they show peen?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 25, 2018 9:57 PM |
Black man! Black man!
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 25, 2018 9:57 PM |
Was there nudity in this movie?
If so, will TCM show it?
They've allowed it in other movies they've show (such as Logan's Run), so I hope they show it here!!
Hell to the YES!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 25, 2018 9:59 PM |
Perry King showed dick and ass.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 25, 2018 10:00 PM |
Gotta love the promo for this movie.
And Dino de Laurentis made it? Wow. I never knew that.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 25, 2018 10:01 PM |
Roscoe Lee Brown was shown semi erect.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 25, 2018 10:01 PM |
Haha, from the promo at R9:
"Expect the savage. The sensual. The shocking. The sad. The powerful. The shameful.
Expect all that the motion picture screen has never dared to show before. Expect the truth.
Now you are ready for Mandingo."
MARY!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 25, 2018 10:03 PM |
The reviews/comments on IMDb support the promo blurb. It's supposed to be shocking.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 25, 2018 10:05 PM |
Mandingo spawned a thousand trashy paperbacks about white southern ladies obsessed with BBC. My mom read several of them and now that I think about it she may have had a fetish.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 25, 2018 10:08 PM |
He's not in Mandingo R10
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 25, 2018 10:13 PM |
James Mason is in this. He plays Perry King's father, and the suave accent bent into Louisiana creole is delightful to the ears. Susan George just can't get enough of Ken Norton's BBC! The scene forever etched in my mind: When Perry King visits a brothel, sitting in a char with legs spread - the ho trying to work him over is grabbing his dick while speaking of "aliens from Mars which have mouths all over." It's good stuff and I hope they put it up on onDemand.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 25, 2018 10:14 PM |
[quote] It's now Madison Square Garden. A smokey crowd throbs with anticipation. "Go, Marcy", they buzz. Tyson turns into George Foreman who eyes me like a basket of muffins. The bell rings. I try to fight, but I'm powerless. Then our eyes meet. He gives me the old one-two. The crowd is on its feet, cheering. I'm down. The count starts. The crowd is screaming, "Get up." But I can't. I won't. (OVERCOME) Take me Mandingo. (THEN) And then, sometimes, I get a little kinky.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 25, 2018 10:18 PM |
[quote] Susan George just can't get enough of Ken Norton's BBC!
Was she a Datalounger?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 25, 2018 10:21 PM |
At 10:15 they are showing Tamango starring Dorothy Dandridge and then Band of Angels starring Clark Gable. Two movies I have never seen but appear to share a theme so this should be a good night of t.v watching. Got pot and snacks so I'm ready to be entertained. I remember finding a copy of Mandingo among my father's hidden trashy stash of books when I was in my tweens. Well, not so trashy since I discovered Henry Miller among those tomes. Anyway, I loved the book so I'm looking forward to watching the movie again after all these years.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 25, 2018 10:27 PM |
[quote] At 10:15 they are showing Tamango starring Dorothy Dandridge
I saw that too, and it instantly reminded me of the movie "To Wong Foo," where Wesley Snipes and the older lady discussed old movie trivia.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 25, 2018 10:29 PM |
Guess who I discovered at the age of 10. Iceberg Slim. "Trick Baby" was the first adult novel I ever read from cover to cover.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 25, 2018 10:37 PM |
Band of Angels is a very weak rehash of the Rhett Butler character. But you do get to see Sidney Poitier sing, with a dubbed in voice that doesn't even remotely resemble his own.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 25, 2018 10:40 PM |
I remember Perry King's penis and the black guy getting an ass whoopin'.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 25, 2018 10:42 PM |
Thanks OP. I just set the DVR.
I remember being a tween staying the summer with my cousin.
My 2 aunts were breathlessly discussing this movie. They had gone out & bought the paperback. The only way I can describe them was being all a twitter.
Looking back it seems like this was the semi-equivalent of the 50 Shades of Gray. A sordid story that got the women into a frenzy.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 25, 2018 10:49 PM |
This is going to overheat the fraus.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 25, 2018 10:54 PM |
I read the paperback when I was about 11 years old.
I felt a stirring in my loins.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 25, 2018 11:03 PM |
I"m telling you, go read the user reviews at IMDb. This isn't a movie about kinky sex, it's a movie about the reality of slavery. Not the sugarcoated ROOTS or GWTW slavery. That's what's supposedly too shocking for modern audiences.
I was too young to see it when it came out, but I hear it's on Netflix.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 25, 2018 11:08 PM |
Why, I just know the powerful musky scent of that big black buck is enough to send shivers down the spine. Miscegenation is the deed that dare not speak it's name, but our men folk engage in it with vigorous abandon. I, as the epitome of white womanhood, would be executed within the day should I ever let a darky near my white body. I grow hot and bothered just thinkin' about it and I seem to have caught myself a case of the vapors!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 25, 2018 11:14 PM |
Band of Angles is an interesting film...sort of a counterpart of GWTW. Always imagined that Mammy was really Scarlett's mother and Prissy was her half sister. Looking at really historical happenings between the races . T Jefferson/S.Hemings and Geo. Washington Parke Custis (Prez Washington's Step-grandson and grandson to Martha) fathering one daughter by his white wife another by his slave. That's right! Rbt E. Lee's wife's half sister was the product of this union...so Rbt E. Lee and . Jefferson had something in common...both had sisters-in-law who were half black.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 25, 2018 11:24 PM |
A Mandingo is a male dingo. A female dingo is called a Womandingo.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 25, 2018 11:25 PM |
I read the book when I was twelve or thirteen. I didn't know anything about miscegenation because I didn't know it was a word, let along a thing. I lived in racist Miami as a kid right before the civil rights movement so I knew something about slavery and racism and the Klan but none of that was remotely erotic. The story got me hot because it was about SEX. The same way I felt when I read Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn. I felt naughty and exhilarated reading those books and knew that I had a lot to look forward to as an adult;)
by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 25, 2018 11:31 PM |
Angie from All Mmy Children is also naked in it.
Wish someone would restore it so we can have beautiful Perry King”s dick in 4K.
If you have Amazon Prime you can Watch Mandingo for free.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 25, 2018 11:33 PM |
I was hoping we'd see R24's photo! Ken Norton was so incredibly beautiful. I remember him on some talk show with Shelley Winters, and when she found out he was a boxer, she kept fondly his face and telling him he was too beautiful to allow himself to be punched.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 25, 2018 11:37 PM |
My mom loves this movie! She is recording it tonight!
by Anonymous | reply 35 | July 25, 2018 11:39 PM |
Both Perry and Ken is at their peak of their hotness. Ken was particularly so yummy.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | July 25, 2018 11:46 PM |
Perry's ass was amazing in this film. So perky and round. And Ken's pecs...drool.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 25, 2018 11:59 PM |
Thanks so much for the heads up, OP. Huge Perry King fan here.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 26, 2018 12:01 AM |
It’s Miscegenation Night on TCM!
by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 26, 2018 12:40 AM |
My guide says Band of Angels until 4:45 am.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | July 26, 2018 12:46 AM |
It's fiction, there was no such thing as Mandingos. Powerful male slaves were the most expensive, and none of the slaveholders were rich enough to risk their lives. It probably happened in very rare situations, but it definitely wasn't a pervasive thing. Other outrages portrayed probably weren't exaggerated, but 12ys a Slave and the Roots remake are far more realistic presentations.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | July 26, 2018 12:49 AM |
Have they ever shown Sweet Sweetback's Badasss Song? Melvin Van Peebles' dick is on display in that one.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 26, 2018 12:55 AM |
Meh, child's play. For a real shock, see Goodbye Miss Wyckoff based on William Inge's book. Anne Heywood, fresh off her lesbian relationship with Sandy Dennis in "The Fox" stars as a schoolteacher in Kansas who is brutally, viciously raped by a black janitor. She finds out she likes it. Their relationship gets sicker and more abusive and then the town finds out and she gets run out. It's worth it to hear Carolyn Jones, Morticia Addams herself, say the n word repeatedly.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | July 26, 2018 1:00 AM |
Aaaaah want you to raipppe me.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | July 26, 2018 1:19 AM |
Did anyone see the sequel "Womandingo"?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | July 26, 2018 1:39 AM |
A Mandingo ate my baby!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | July 26, 2018 1:44 AM |
r45 I think the sequel was called "Drum."
by Anonymous | reply 48 | July 26, 2018 2:11 AM |
R41, Mandingo is a variant spelling of Mandinka, the name of a Mande language and the people who speak it. These people have for the last four or so centuries lived mainly in the Casamance reagion of West Africa in the present countries of Senegal the Gambia, and Guinea-Bissau. Large numbers of these people were, in fact, enslaved during the Atlantic slave trade. They are the desendants of the great Empire of Mali, most of which was further to the east of the areas where they presently live. It has been estimated that about 20% of enslaved people brought to what became the United States were Mandinka.
I agree that the film is sensationalistic and that the other films you mention are more historically accurate. The brutality in the film, however, including the boiling alive of Ken Norton's character, are documented to have happened as extreme forms of punishment and as intemindation of other enslaved people.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | July 26, 2018 3:27 AM |
[quote]My guide says Band of Angels until 4:45 am.
Starring DL icon Miss Yvonne De Carlo!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | July 26, 2018 3:36 AM |
She tryin to pass y’all! ^
by Anonymous | reply 51 | July 26, 2018 3:59 AM |
I set my dvr for this a week ago. The book stirred my pre-teen loins, and when I saw this years ago, Perry King and Ken Norton did the same. Ebony and Ivory!
One more reason I love the DL...a "Mandingo" thread!
by Anonymous | reply 52 | July 26, 2018 4:09 AM |
One hour until the MANDINGO!
Is anyone still up?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | July 26, 2018 5:30 AM |
Sandy Duncan wasn't pure...Perry was duped into marrying a Jezabel who was a bit of a slut.With her own brother???No wonder Ken slipped right into her.The movie was a romp.Only saved by Brenda Sykes....Perry Kings side-peace.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | July 26, 2018 5:57 AM |
Ugh, I miss having cable only for TCM. I'm one of the weird ones that likes the kind of movies they're starting to screen now...
by Anonymous | reply 55 | July 26, 2018 6:09 AM |
How James Mason could have lent his talent to a piece of garbage like this is incomprehensible.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | July 26, 2018 6:15 AM |
"Old Pearl's titted up big enough to feed 12 suckers" - One of the funniest lines ever uttered in any film.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | July 26, 2018 6:22 AM |
"Pleasure me, you ebony wench!"
by Anonymous | reply 58 | July 26, 2018 6:22 AM |
I remember that SNL parody! My Mother and oldest sister had gone to NYC for the weekend, and had gotten tickets to see SNL. My Mom told me to make sure that I watched the show in case the camera showed the audience. Six year old me was pretty enthralled watching the show, and my Mother later said that she was mortified, knowing I was watching. I had a very strange childhood....
by Anonymous | reply 59 | July 26, 2018 6:44 AM |
Aw jeez SUSAN GEORGE
by Anonymous | reply 60 | July 26, 2018 10:09 AM |
Susan George had a nice little career playing nymphos
by Anonymous | reply 61 | July 26, 2018 10:53 AM |
“Mandingo” made enough money to merit the making of a film version of a sequel, “Drum” (1976), with Warren Oates playing the Perry King character. (There’s a letdown...) It wasn’t nearly as syccessful as “Mandingo.”
“Drum”has also been shown in TCM, though I’ve never seen it. The best thing about “Mandingo” was seeing Perry King’s penis, presented as casually as if in a locker room. I was floored. I’d never seen a handsome man naked in a Hollywood movie before.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | July 26, 2018 10:55 AM |
Just watched this. What a piece of total trash. The early 70s was the apotheosis of sleaze.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | July 26, 2018 11:05 AM |
[quote]For a real shock, see Goodbye Miss Wyckoff based on William Inge's book.
Actually it is called "Good Luck Miss Wyckoff" and thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered the Blu Ray off Amazon.
If for anything, this ass sure looks nice.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | July 26, 2018 11:11 AM |
And, according to Wikipedia, Sylvester Stallone is an uncredited extra in “Mandingo.” Curious, since he had a larger role as Perry King’s buddy in “The Lords of Flatbush,” released in 1974, the year before “Mandingo.”
by Anonymous | reply 65 | July 26, 2018 11:28 AM |
R56, if you want to talk about "incomprehensible," then lets talk about how the illustrious acting talents of Malcolm McDowell, Helen Mirren, Sir John Gilguld, and Peter O'Toole appeared in the Bob Guccione camp classic "Caligula." Now THAT was some shit!
by Anonymous | reply 66 | July 26, 2018 11:28 AM |
I wish someone would restore the other 70s male nudity classics Buster and Billie and The Harad Exiperment.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | July 26, 2018 11:32 AM |
Perry King and Ken Norton would've made a beautiful IR pairing.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | July 26, 2018 12:00 PM |
R67
I'd be happy is some channel would just re-air Buster & Billie.
I haven't seen that since I was maybe 13.
I remember watching enthralled. It was on the late late show. Remember when regular TV had that?
by Anonymous | reply 69 | July 26, 2018 12:03 PM |
I liked Band of Angels better.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | July 26, 2018 12:09 PM |
Well, I left the tv on and woke up just when the opening credits were displaying, but then I fell right back to sleep only to wake back up just when King sees that the baby is black. FOOEY! It's not on onDemand either. For anyone else who may have missed it but still wants to see it, you can free stream it online via several sources.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | July 26, 2018 5:16 PM |
Don't forget the cultural analysis before the film starts! Ben M. and a film scholar that programmed the two days of slavery-themed films. Watching Ben trip all over himself trying not to make a racial gaffe and say all the right things is a riot. I love Ben but sometimes he can be insufferable
by Anonymous | reply 72 | July 26, 2018 5:17 PM |
The author was an animal breeder. German shepherds I think?
by Anonymous | reply 73 | July 26, 2018 5:30 PM |
Band of Angels is on TMC on Demand.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | July 26, 2018 5:38 PM |
The Falconhurst books, which Mandingo was the first in a long-running series of, were kicking around our house when I was a teenager and I read them all. The covers were always the same - either a shirtless black guy with a buxom Southern belle or a white guy with a topless black woman, with a white-columned mansion in the background. The authors were Kyle Onstott and/or, I kid you not, Lance Horner. They also wrote a couple set in ancient Rome: Rogue Roman, about a gladiator, and Child of the Sun, about the gay Roman emperor who married his favourite charioteer. That one made me particularly 'horner'.
They inspired a lot of knock off books too, set either on plantations or slave ships. Kind of strange to think they were still being published in the 70s but there they were on the shelves of the newsagents. I think there is even a name for the genre: plantation porn, which is pretty much what they were. Tarantino claims that Mandingo was the first big budget exploitation film. Not surprisingly he loves it and I'd hazard a guess it's what inspired Django Unchained.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | July 26, 2018 6:10 PM |
Well, having finally seen this movie, I'm surprised that there was actually a story attached to it!
All this time, I thought that Mandingo was a sex movie about a black slave and a white lady. I had no idea why everyone here kept referencing this guy named "Perry King," but he played the main character! And yes, he was ABSOLUTELY hot.
I'm also surprised that it was so graphic, in more ways than just nudity. Even the accents seemed real, although I'm no expert.
Overall, I thought it was a well made movie, and very compelling. I almost forgot about the sex part, until Mede undressed and showed that big booty!
You just know that a movie like Mandingo could never be made today. Never.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | July 26, 2018 7:46 PM |
Is was bad enough Perry King had to boil Ken Norton to death but did he have to poison his tramp wife?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | July 26, 2018 8:43 PM |
Very interesting read. It should be routinely understood based entirely on human behavior, itself, that the slave women weren't the only ones expected to submit themselves sexually to their white male slave "masters."
by Anonymous | reply 78 | July 26, 2018 8:54 PM |
Perry King is 70 years old.
I'd still hit it!
Any rumors of him being bi?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | July 26, 2018 9:31 PM |
Can anyone explain what was going on here?
I couldn't understand the woman's accent.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | July 26, 2018 9:47 PM |
^She was a German widow. She wanted to purchase Mede to be her sex slave. She was checking out his dick.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | July 26, 2018 9:48 PM |
"I"m telling you, go read the user reviews at IMDb. This isn't a movie about kinky sex, it's a movie about the reality of slavery. Not the sugarcoated ROOTS or GWTW slavery."
Oh right, the reality of slavery is that there was no hard work involved, just screwing the Masta and Missus.
Although the film did get one thing absolutely right, if a lonely and desperate slave master's wife actually did sample any of that BBC in an age without birth control, she'd get pregnant and her husband would kill both her and her baby. And her husband's actions would be considered so socially acceptable and moral that the police would never trouble him about it, if there were any police out there on the plantations. For the most part, the isolated rural slave owners were above the law, they WERE the law.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | July 26, 2018 9:50 PM |
^Amazing - the aging process. Beautiful as well - the aging process. We're all approaching death from the time we are born, and it's certainly a privilege and blessing to age to old. Do what you can to maintain optimal health, but otherwise I feel strongly that we should all let nature take it's course. Perry King looks great in the above photograph. Here's one for comparison.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | July 26, 2018 9:51 PM |
Did people really have thousands of dollars to spend on slaves back then?
That widow lady offered something like 3500 dollars for just one man.
Fuck, I couldn't afford $3500 for ANYTHING, even in today's money.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | July 26, 2018 10:10 PM |
Only the rich could afford to buy slaves, R84 (which is probably one reason they were so keen on breeding their own). According to this site I found with a one-second google search, a slave in the mid-19th century cost a few hundred dollars, and a really fine specimen might cost in the thousands, which might be six figures of today's money.
And if you think there aren't people today who think nothing of spending six figures on sex, you know nothing of today's world.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | July 26, 2018 10:23 PM |
They actually DID, R84. Agriculture was huge back then. They weren't just farmers. There's a huge difference between a farm and a plantation size wise. Cotton and Tobacco were King, and those two crops were exported throughout the world. Slavery was particularly brutal in the West Indies (Jamaica, Cuba, Puerto Rico and the other islands). So much so that it was a very effective threat to an unruly slave to be told "I'll sell you South." The Caribbean crop, of course, was sugar. Being that it was summer all year round the slaves there were LITERALLY worked to death. Once reaching one of the islands, a slave's life expectancy was roughly five to seven years.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | July 26, 2018 10:25 PM |
Any movie that kicks off with a slave bending over and presenting hole for a trader's inspection is going to be in The DL Movie Hall of Fame.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | July 26, 2018 10:34 PM |
R87 and how appropriate that a REAL frau features in the beginning of the film, performing a very un-frau action (by today's frau standards; see photo above)
by Anonymous | reply 88 | July 26, 2018 10:38 PM |
𝗙𝘂𝗻 𝗙𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘀 𝗔𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗦𝗹𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆
In the history of the trans-Atlantic slave trade (1525-1866), 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. Only about 388,000 were transported directly from Africa to North America.
In 1860, according to the Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History, 75 percent of white families in the United States owned not a single slave, while 1 percent of families owned 40 or more. Just a tenth of 1 percent of Americans owned 100 or more slaves.
That same year, 1860, 31 percent of all slaves in the U.S. were held on plantations of 40 or more slaves, while a majority (53 percent) were held on farms of between 7 and 39 slaves, says the institute.
As late as 1850, the state of New Jersey, as a result of its gradual emancipation policies, still reported some 236 slaves in the Federal Census. New York also adopted a gradual emancipation policy, in 1799, but it didn’t achieve its full goal until the late 1820s. Well before then, New York City was a major hub of the slave trade. “Between 1732 and 1754, black slaves accounted for more than 35 percent of the total immigration through the port of New York,” according to the website SlaveryNorth.com. “In 1756,” it adds, “slaves made up about 25 percent of the populations of Kings, Queens, Richmond, New York, and Westchester counties.”
“Over a million Europeans were held as slaves from the 1530s through the 1780s in Africa, and hundreds of thousands were kept as slaves by the Ottomans in eastern Europe and Asia,” writes Alan Gallay in his essay “Indian Slavery in the Americas” for the Gilder Lehrman Institute. “In 1650,” Gallay adds, “more English were enslaved in Africa than Africans enslaved in English colonies.”
Native Americans owned and traded in slaves. According to the Oklahoma Historical Society website, from the late 18th century on, Native Americans in the South, like whites, owned slaves. And, when the U.S. government “removed” the five nations to “Indian Territory” (now the state of Oklahoma) in the 1830s, they took their slaves with them, so that “[b]y the time the Civil War broke out more than eight thousand blacks were enslaved in Indian Territory.” Overall, enslaved people accounted for “14 percent of the population” of the Indian Territory, and it wasn’t until after the Civil War that emancipation arrived for some of the slaves. In fact, as late as 1885, the governor of the Chickasaw was still protesting demands that they free their black slaves.
On the eve of the Civil War in 1860, Ira Berlin writes in Slaves Without Masters, there were a total of 488,070 free blacks living in the United States, about 10 percent of the entire black population. Of those, 226,152 lived in the North and 261,918 in the South, in 15 states (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Texas) plus the District of Columbia. Thus, surprisingly, there were 35,766 more free black people living in the slave-owning South than in the North. And they stayed there during the Civil War.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | July 26, 2018 10:45 PM |
Sorry can’t agree Perry looks great now. Maybe okay kinda like an average 70 year old man.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | July 26, 2018 11:36 PM |
I forgot he also kills the baby. It’s all done so matter of factly.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | July 26, 2018 11:37 PM |
Susan George was maybe the worst actor to ever come out of England.
I remember seeing this in high school and freaking out at the way they let the black baby bleed out after birth. And the black boy who had to lie there while the rich plantation owner put his feet on him. Ugly stuff.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | July 26, 2018 11:39 PM |
I believe you mean Good Luck Miss Wyckoff, r43.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | July 26, 2018 11:46 PM |
In Miss Wyckoff, the first image in the movie is of a darling young girl writing in chalk on the sidewalk "Miss Wyckoff fucks N******". I read somewhere that that little girl turned into a known actress.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | July 27, 2018 12:25 AM |
I can't believe I've never heard of that movie.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | July 27, 2018 12:56 AM |
AND Doris Roberts? AND Polly Platt wrote the screenplay???
by Anonymous | reply 97 | July 27, 2018 12:59 AM |
Ken Norton was beautiful. Even more than Muhammad Ali.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | July 27, 2018 1:02 AM |
No mention of a black guy in that trailer. I wonder how it would be received today for a rape victim to say "I feel no shame for what I've done." Of course, the suggestion is that her feeling no shame was for having sex with a black man, but the stupid bitch was raped and it became consensual. But since she was a spinster who'd never been fucked, that makes it okay.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | July 27, 2018 1:09 AM |
R72. The "scholar" is Miss Donald Bogle, an adjunct professor at NYU, whose book "Toms, Mammies...." was a very entertaining and insightful survey of the depiction of black people in Hollywood, and was a crossover success. His follow-up, "Brown Sugar," about black divas, is the definition of a Mary! queen-out.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | July 27, 2018 1:15 AM |
I've read about a dozen of the novels. They range from prequels to after the civil war. Another set of books in the same vain, EXTREMELY well written were the Beula land series.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | July 27, 2018 1:56 AM |
[quote] I forgot he also kills the baby. It’s all done so matter of factly.
The Perry King character didn't kill the baby, the doctor and his wife did. Because it was half-black.
And yeah, they did it so matter-of-factly, that it was scary.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | July 27, 2018 2:07 AM |
Yeah R102, they sort of jumped all around timeline wise, filling in the gaps. And there were a lot of them - Flight to Falconhurst, Master of Falconhurst, Mistress of Falconhurst, Falconhurst Fancy. I never read the Beulah Land books though I know of them - I think they were 'classier' and less exploitative than the Falconhurst ones. Remember the cook on the plantation, Lucretia Borgia? I always thought her name was a nice little tongue in cheek touch.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | July 27, 2018 2:08 AM |
[quote] kill the baby, the doctor and his wife did. Because it was half-black. And yeah, they did it so matter-of-factly, that it was scary.
You get used to it.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | July 27, 2018 2:18 AM |
[quote]They actually DID, [R84]. Agriculture was huge back then. They weren't just farmers. There's a huge difference between a farm and a plantation size wise. Cotton and Tobacco were King, and those two crops were exported throughout the world. Slavery was particularly brutal in the West Indies (Jamaica, Cuba, Puerto Rico and the other islands). So much so that it was a very effective threat to an unruly slave to be told "I'll sell you South." The Caribbean crop, of course, was sugar. Being that it was summer all year round the slaves there were LITERALLY worked to death. Once reaching one of the islands, a slave's life expectancy was roughly five to seven years.
Actually, R86, the threat of "being sold Down South" nearly always referred to the threat of being sold to plantations of the malarial Deep South of the United States. Slaves in Virginia, Delaware, upper Tennessee, Missouri, and Maryland were TERRIFIED of being sold "down the river" to South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, southern Tennessee, Arkansas, and Louisiana. The indigo and rice plantations of South Carolina and the sugarcane and cotton plantations of Louisiana were especially horrific. Malaria, dengue, yellow fever, "marsh fever," and nasty helminth infestations were endemic, the weather was brutal, and slaveowners particularly ugly. And the larger Deep South plantations (New Orleans excluded) were so isolated yet well patrolled, it was almost impossible to escape with your family.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | July 27, 2018 3:18 AM |
A Mandingo ate my manbaby!
by Anonymous | reply 107 | July 27, 2018 3:58 AM |
I was taken aback when Hammond's father said that he need to sleep with one of the virgin slaves, and Hammond referred to her as "musky." I was like, "ahhhh!!!"
Then Lucrezia Borgia and another woman bathed her in something that they said, "white women like." Does anyone know what that was?
All I know is that the stench must have been ripe!
Especially taking off the Massah's boots and clothing. Everybody stank back then, and I can't even imagine having sex with anyone in those days. Yuck.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | July 27, 2018 4:10 AM |
Just out of curiosity for anyone who watched the TCM version, did they show Perry's dong? I've seen the scene before - just want to know if they showed it on cable.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | July 27, 2018 7:15 AM |
Yes, they did.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | July 27, 2018 12:18 PM |
Surprisingly, Bogle in the intro with Ben approved of MANDINGO more than I thought he would. His two books are entertaining reads, and not bogged down in jargon or "theory."
by Anonymous | reply 111 | July 27, 2018 1:24 PM |
MISS WYCOFF makes a lot more sense when you learn the source is tortured Kansan queen William Inge. The novel is no dount a thinly-veiled self-portrait of lust for BBC.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | July 27, 2018 1:26 PM |
I watched Mandingo on dvd a few years back and I've always wondered if the humor is intentional or accidental. There's a scene where an old slave is suspended naked from the rafters for a flogging. A young white man arrives and says something to the effect of "you call that a whuppin - I'll show you how it's done !" While he's going at it with gusto, Hammond (Perry King) walks in and says hands off my slave you interloper- "Oh I didn't recognize you cousin Charles - sorry to be so testy. By all means carry on". I likely have misquoted but that's the essence of the scene.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | July 27, 2018 2:29 PM |
R99, the capture is where Miss Wyckoff goes to open the door of her classroom and on her door is written the note "Miss Wyckoff fucks N-words".
To show you how bizarre the psychology of this story is, Wyckoff gets run out of town but the black guy who raped her has nothing happen to him. Wyckoff regrets nothing because she got a taste of BBC, even though he completely humiliated her for it and she lost everything. It is obvious he hate fucks her when you hear the things he says to her but still Wyckoff loves it.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | July 27, 2018 4:04 PM |
How did Inge's source material differ, if at all?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | July 27, 2018 6:05 PM |
""I"m telling you, go read the user reviews at IMDb. This isn't a movie about kinky sex, it's a movie about the reality of slavery. Not the sugarcoated ROOTS or GWTW slavery."
Oh right, the reality of slavery is that there was no hard work involved, just screwing the Masta and Missus."
R82, how on earth did you draw that conclusion based on what I wrote? I meant just the opposite of what you accuse me of. Reading comprehension, BITCH.
And stop agenda-izing everything.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | July 27, 2018 6:38 PM |
[quote] It is obvious he hate fucks her when you hear the things he says to her but still Wyckoff loves it.
Leonard Bernstein and his Park Avenue guests would have understood and found it highly arousing.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | July 27, 2018 7:11 PM |
Is it too late for an all-male remake of "Good Luck Miss Wycoff"?
Because obviously it's a story like "The Roman Spring of Mrs .Stone", where a woman is used to tell a gay male story.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | July 27, 2018 8:33 PM |
Young idealistic Timothee Chalamet is fresh out of Yale, and embracing the Teach for America program at a rough South Bronx junior high school. The simmering custodian, played by Trevante Rhodes, explodes in an uncontrolled sexual frenzy when he confuses trembling Mr. Wycoff's ambivalent non-verbal glances for an invitation to brutally rough sex on the floor of the classroom. After suffering the trauma of the attack, Mr. Wycoff comes to realize he has always craved BBC.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | July 27, 2018 8:42 PM |
No, R120, beloved teacher in rural Missouri Mr. Wyckoff (Joseph Gordon Levitt) is 35 and secretly a neurotic mess, because he's still a virgin and closeted! When he's not dutifully dating the local ladies and kissing them on the cheek, he's writhing on his lonely twin bed or sobbing to his psychiatrist, or gazing longingly at the crotch of school janitor Tyson Beckford...
Or maybe it would be more appropriate if a porn studio just used some of Inge's dialogue.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | July 27, 2018 9:05 PM |
This vintage porno has a powerful message. If you don’t want to be raped by a black stud who is working at your hotel in housekeeping do not I repeat DO NOT walk around naked and present hole.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | July 28, 2018 3:07 PM |
Perry showed it all, but I was waiting for Ken to give us the front. Sadly, it didn't happen.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | July 28, 2018 3:16 PM |
[quote] Was there nudity in this movie? If so, will TCM show it?
TCM doesn't edit. They showed the complete "Y Tu Mamá También" and "I Am Curious, Yellow".
by Anonymous | reply 125 | July 28, 2018 3:37 PM |
I met Ken Norton At Chiller in Jersey and had the DVD signed.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | July 28, 2018 3:42 PM |
R43 Damn, that movie sounds wild. I'm downloading it as we speak.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | July 28, 2018 3:59 PM |
In the book, when Blanche 'engages' with the twins, the euphemism used is, 'pester,' as in "They were pestering her again."
by Anonymous | reply 128 | July 28, 2018 4:16 PM |
^What twins? Please explain further
by Anonymous | reply 129 | July 28, 2018 4:55 PM |
Did the baby really die ? Did it grow up to be Drum ?
by Anonymous | reply 130 | July 28, 2018 5:07 PM |
Does anyone else remember the Mandingo spoof on SNL? It won't ever be shown again because the star was OJ Simpson. At one point, OJ and Bill Murray exchange a passionate kiss. Both have their mouths tightly closed but it was pretty shocking at the time.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | July 28, 2018 7:07 PM |
There are a few shots of Perry King looking at Ken Norton's body as if he would like to lick the sweat off it, so there's some unspoken homoerotic content to keep me happy,
Skinny bug-eyed Susan George looks eerily like an Olsen Twin.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | July 28, 2018 8:00 PM |
That poor Susan George girl just couldn't catch a break!
by Anonymous | reply 133 | July 28, 2018 8:10 PM |
All the more reason to show it again, r131.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | July 28, 2018 10:25 PM |
R131, meet R58.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | July 28, 2018 10:29 PM |
Amazon just delievered my Blu Ray of MISS WYCKOFF.
Sounds like a fun evening in tonight.
If you really want to see a fucked up slave movie, check out GOODBYE, UNCLE TOM.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | July 28, 2018 11:15 PM |
Did Perry King work a lot after "Mandingo"? Did the full-frontal nudity affect his career in a positive or negative way in terms of later roles? Only mainly Jan Michael Vincent in "Buster and Billie" and Alan Bates and Oliver Reed in "Women in Love" had done it in a big mainstream film before around that time -- and to this day, not that many (i.e. Harvey Keitel).
by Anonymous | reply 137 | July 28, 2018 11:35 PM |
King ended up on a popular 80s TV series. No repercussions.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | July 28, 2018 11:42 PM |
Don Johnson also showed it all in Harrad Experiment all three had long running tv series after years of struggling. Flashing their dicks didn't hurt the film careers of Bruce Willis, Richard Gere and Brad Pitt. You can't put European actors in the same category as Americans who have hang-ups with the penis....
by Anonymous | reply 139 | July 28, 2018 11:49 PM |
Perry King's career got slowed down by A Different Story, r137.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | July 28, 2018 11:58 PM |
Also Gregory Harrison and Bruno Kirby also went full frontal in"Harrad Experiment", Harrison as an extra, though there are screen caps on the net.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | July 29, 2018 12:01 AM |
I used to get Dirk Benedict and Perry King mixed up.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | July 29, 2018 3:59 AM |
Why didn't you queens tell me Barbara Bennett from Redbook and Lewis Vendredi were in the film!
by Anonymous | reply 143 | July 29, 2018 2:03 PM |
R131 - I was looking for a pic of that. No luck, but I did come across this from the skit . . .
by Anonymous | reply 144 | July 29, 2018 2:10 PM |
Jeepers, R136. Words fail me.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | July 29, 2018 6:18 PM |
It just simply cries out for a Broadway musical adaptation, doesn't it, r145?
by Anonymous | reply 146 | July 29, 2018 6:28 PM |
Blue Underground, the Criterion Collection of Eurotrash grindhouse classics, has put GOODBYE, UNCLE TOM on Amazon Prime for the low, low rental price of $2.99.
It's a much better transfer than the muzzy trailer posted above indicates.
I assume Tarantino knows about this epically sick flick, which is like MANDINGO on steroids.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | July 29, 2018 7:12 PM |
You can watch "Goodbye Uncle Tom" here, in pretty good quality. Frankly, I'm not that offended considering that it is an Italian mondo film. It's no different than those stupid cannibal movies they liked to make during the 70's. According to wikipedia, it was filmed in Haiti with the explicit support of Duvalier. It's stupid and vile, but there is a good amount of BBC in it.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | July 29, 2018 7:40 PM |
[quote] it was filmed in Haiti with the explicit support of Duvalier.
Which strongly indicates Baby Doc personally approved the actresses.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | July 29, 2018 8:09 PM |
Poor Miss Wycoff.
Was she screaming because her titties were getting burned on the heater or because Rafe was fucking her in the ass?
by Anonymous | reply 150 | July 29, 2018 9:11 PM |
Does Miss Wycoff stream somewhere ?
I regret renting Goodbye Uncle Tom. With no Perry King or Ken Norton it isn't no Mandingo. I feel sorry for the actors and extras playing slaves....
by Anonymous | reply 151 | July 30, 2018 1:43 AM |
[quote]Can anyone explain what was going on here? I couldn't understand the woman's accent.
When the gentlemen complain she has her hands down his pants she says "I don't buy the pig in the poke!"
[quote]Perry showed it all, but I was waiting for Ken to give us the front. Sadly, it didn't happen.
Hammond says "he's so big he'd tear the wenches". Norton probably wasn't, as most guys aren't or he may have been cut.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | July 30, 2018 12:32 PM |
[quote]it isn't no Mandingo.
It sho ain't!
by Anonymous | reply 153 | July 31, 2018 1:31 PM |
I recorded this back when the thread started and just watched it today - it was very hard to watch. Of course, slavery was horrible but seeing the degradation and sexual control and beatings... yeesh. The other half was watching it as study of 70's movie making/what was considered entertainment.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | August 22, 2018 5:14 PM |
Mandingo was a big budget studio film made to cash in on the blaxpoitation wave that was making money for everyone involved.
It was considered a prestige project but it was/is straight up camp!
One of the trashiest movies produced at Paramount in the 70s, they also released Lipstick, Mahogany, The Possession of Joel Delaney, The Klansman, Looking for Mr. Goodbar and Pretty Baby among others.
Clearly they were on to something!
by Anonymous | reply 155 | August 22, 2018 7:30 PM |
^Or just ON something....
by Anonymous | reply 156 | August 22, 2018 7:37 PM |
Damn I missed it!
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