Why does everyone hate Poland?

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the language

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The Polish are to Europe like Mexicans are to America - a cheap labor source. They're in every country working all sorts of jobs.

Poland is an entire country with resting bitch face

No one thinks about poland other than poles... literally no one.

The rigid Catholicism, the anti-Semitism, and the ardent nationalism from a country which, as you note, no one else gives a shit about until they invade it.

Apparently there are a lot of hated Polish immigrants in the UK. They work cheaply. They have unfamiliar ways. They’re probably the least refined of Poles, being economic refugees. They’re Papists, too. Real ones, not like fake Irish ones. Blimey, what’s to like?

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The country is run by a Tea Party level conservative right wingers. Those crazy brothers in the lead a few years back were terrible. Western Europe is getting more and more progressive while Eastern European countries like Poland and Hungary are taking away people's rights and are getting more and more conservative. It's like they're returning to the Soviet era. Apparently those people can't handle living in modern and open democratic societies.

What's to like?

How can we hate Poland? They gave us our queen -- Miss Martha Stewart!

I love Polish men and their ENORMOUS cocks.

Because they have a lunatic right-wing government in charge right now, whose first order of business was to further tighten their already aggressive abortion ban and purge the judicial system. It's a shithole country because the best and the brightest have already emigrated to other EU countries in the past decade. You can only imagine the scum that's left behind.

One of the most openly homophobic countries in the EU.

They 'phobe everything.

R12, are you referring to the US, or Poland? I can’t tell.

[quote]Apparently there are a lot of hated Polish immigrants in the UK. They work cheaply. They have unfamiliar ways. They’re probably the least refined of Poles, being economic refugees. They’re Papists, too. Real ones, not like fake Irish ones. Blimey, what’s to like?

Apparently, you believe everything you read. Blimey, indeed.

Actually, R8, they are not regressing back to the Soviet era. Even worse, they are regressing to the level of those Nazi satellite backwater countries which they were before and in WW2, Hungary, Poland, Latvia, Croatia, and their ilk. They were even more gung ho about the extermination of Jews, Gypsies, and other "undesirables" than their Teutonic overlords. They did the dirty work for Hitler.

Well, R16, illuminate me! Have your mother type it out for you, if need be.

I think only the Czech Republic of all the former Eastern Bloc countries is moving forward towards a progressive mindset, the rest are leaping backwards.

How does Bulgaria fit into the spectrum?

I thought Prague, Czech R. was already progressive. Twas pretty Gay Gay Gay when I was there in 2004. As was Budapest, btw.

PTown has had a huge contingent of seasonal employees from Bulgaria for the last 15 years or so. That and Jamaica, the most homophobic place on Earth.

I don't hate Poland. They have quite a large economy by world standards, which is bound to attract all sorts of critics.

Aren't they the biggest economic success story of all the former eastern bloc countries?

Fervent Catholics, fervent Jew haters. Not a gram of conscience or empathy.

I love Poland and their people.

The sad thing is is that the recent centuries of brutal history has made the Polish psyche like that. During the Renaissance and before, the Polish lands/people were pretty much mild manered and rather decent (compared to the rest of Europe), why do you think that they had so many jews living there. They accepted the jewish refugees that were being thrown away from other European kingdoms. Many Kings, even tho extremely Catholic, expressly protected the Jewish people.

Poland is Noland.

R25 I suppose you'd like them much better if they were fervent Muslims.

The Russians on the other hand, were always shitty human beings.... maybe for a quick second in the middle of the 19th Century they weren't.

[quote]They accepted the jewish refugees that were being thrown away from other European kingdoms. Many Kings, even tho extremely Catholic, expressly protected the Jewish people.

Rubbish! Polish kings exploited Jews for their own ends, protected them when they served their purpose and incited pogroms against them when they didn't.

Right wingers are nasty people who ruin the world.

Praise Allah

Yucky yuck people. Satan's slaves

They were terrible to the Jews during World War II. They helped Hitler find them and kill them.

Jewish propaganda to further their victimhood status.

No r36, it's history. Maybe you should read some you anti-Semitic piece of scum.

I thought everyone in Europe hated Albanians? Or was it Gypsies.

The Poles like most Eastern Euros are dour and lack a sense of humor.

Aren't there some hot Polish guys that have been imported by the Czech gay porn industry?

Some of the hottest, roundest, biggest asses that I have ever encountered (fucked some and others were straight acquaintances) are of Polish decent. For that reason, I certainly have a sexual fetish for Polish guys. Other than that, I honestly do not know a whole lot about either the country's politics or economy.

Much of Poland is the ancient German homeland of Prussia. Immediately before WWI, Germany abutted Russia, and there was no Poland, even in peacetime. It was cleansed of Germans after WWII, which is what you get, under the circumstances. Germans today say “Danzig? Never mind!”*

*Polish City of Gdańsk, today.

[quote] For that reason, I certainly have a sexual fetish for Polish guys.

Gurl, me too!

The plodding, creepy names of their towns and cities: Gdańsk, Wroclaw, Warsaw, Lodz, Lublin, Kraków

Eastern Europe won’t accept Muslim refugees because of their history of fighting the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years.

a bunch of ignorant bigots - not in poland - YOU

[quote]Well, [R16], illuminate me! Have your mother type it out for you, if need be.

If you mean enlighten you, Boris, then maybe you need to work on your English a little.

This whole thread is kicked off by a straw man and an unentertaining one at that. The OP could have put a bit more effort into a bait thread.

Love a good Polish sausage

Like some other countries I could mention, Poland is divided down the middle between some deplorable conservative, nationalistic, racist people and a whole lot of highly educated, liberal, cosmopolitan people. Unfortunately -- again, like some other countries -- the former are in control right now. One thing is clear -- Poland would be a lot more interesting if it still had its Jewish population. But that is true for all of Eastern Europe

Hot guys there.

Poland is GREAT! The people are friendly and love a good party. Poland gave us Copernicus, Chopin, Mickiewicz, Marie Skłodowska Curie, Paderewski, John Paul II (Karol Wojtyła), and Tadeusz Kosciusko. One of the first institutions of higher learning - the Jagiellonian University - was founded in Kraków in 1364. Plus they make one of the best beers in the world - Żywiec!!

How did Poland end up with such a large land mass geographically speaking? I don't know much about the country. It hasn't made that much of impact on European history, culture, science, technology, art, etc., but it has more land mass than most countries on the Continent. How wasn't it carved up by the more powerful or innovative countries?

If nothing else, the country produced at least one outstanding filmmaker (Andrzej Wajda), who in turn gave us a relatively attractive (although short-lived) actor (Zbigniew Cybulski)

On the other hand, the country also gave us the polka.

Plus; Karol Szymanowski (gay composer).

Minus: Czernina (duck blood soup).

Nasty shitbag country full of nasty racist ugly shitbag people.

Hope that answers your question, OP.

Chicago has a huge Polish population. The Polish Americans I've encountered hit so many First Generation American buttons you could exchange them for Cuban Americans in Miami.

R52 - At one point, Poland was a major European power and one of the first democracies. King Jan Sobieski and his Polish army literally saved Vienna and the Austrian Empire from being overrun by the Ottoman Empire. Ironically, the democratic nature of decision making within the old Polish Government made it slow and cumbersome to make important decisions quickly, which in turn led to the country being partitioned by the autocratic countries of Russia, Prussia, and (ironically) Austria.

Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła, kiedy my żyjemy co nam obca przemoc wzięła, szablą odbierzemy!

I’ll never forget in the 1980s driving on the LIE in fast traffic I briefly saw a sputtering old black car, all banged up and with fire marks on it, bearing the bumper sticker “You betcha dupa I’m Polish.” My mother and I laughed so hard we almost had an accident.

I hate Poland because the bitch stole my look.

I'm from New York and I love the Polish people I know. Sadly a lot of racism but otherwise really great people

One of the many reasons I LOVE Poland:

I'm in the UK and in my experience there seems to be a complex attitude here toward Poland and its people.

There's the historical viewpoint where Poland was an ally and there are lots of stories of goodwill between the two countries, especially during the world wars. After Poland joined the EU and a lot of Poles moved to the UK, there developed the current mixed view which seems to veer between 'they're very hard workers and good Christian people' and 'they are benefit-scrounging scum SEND THEM HOME'.

I have some Polish immigrant friends and they're very liberal, very educated and with the exception of a slight accent would pass as British. I went back to my old Catholic school recently and these days it's full of second generation Polish kids who you'd think were born of English parents if you didn't know their surnames.

Poland and its people have fared considerably better than their comparable neighbours and maybe that's why 'everyone hates' them.

[quote]Love a good Polish sausage

Tough shit.

Is polish the same as ukranian?

No — Polish, Russian and Ukrainian all have lots of grammatical similarities but very strong differences in vocabulary.

To tell you the truth, I wasn't aware that "everyone" hated Poland. I've never been there and don't know very much about Poland or the Polish so I have little basis for complaint. I'd like to ask OP how he came to this conclusion.

I don’t hate Poland.

My late father worked in a machine shop with lots of Poles. He picked up the language and became friendly with a bunch of them. He’d tell lots of Polish jokes, but he respected their work ethic and lack of pretense.

I know a few second and third generation and those bastids can DRINK. They’re clean and study hard and stay out of trouble for the most part. They are happy to be American but keep the nice parts of their Polish heritage.

Their last names are impossible.

Big peepees.

They hate their gays.

What's interesting is that over the past ~25 years, Polish jokes -- which used to be a staple of American lowbrow comedy -- have become as culturally-resonant as "Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the *other side*"

I remember thinking Polish jokes were funny when I was a child... but looking back, I honestly can't remember *why* they were supposed to be funny. We didn't decide as a society that Polish jokes were offensive or morally wrong... we just metaphorically woke up one morning & couldn't figure out what made them funny to begin with. The cultural memes that *made* them funny just evaporated without anyone even noticing.

Also interesting... most of what we used to think of as "Eastern Europe" is now "Central Europe" (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary). The central-east dividing line is NOW mostly linguistic... "central = Roman alphabet, eastern = Cyrillic alphabet"

Q: What do they do to you in Poland if you don’t pay your garbage bill?

A: Stop delivery.

Let me paraphrase your question OP ... why would anyone hate Poland?

Do you really know the country you hate? ... have you lived there or visited long enough to form an opinion?

Here is the truly objective take from someone who was born, raised and spent half of his life there. Then moved to the USA and lived “happily ever after” in the land of promise.

At this point both places feel like my own homeland.

The first question, why have I left Poland?

Imagine this ... 1989 .... Warsaw, Poland ... 2 years after I had have finally admitted to myself of being gay, and shared that “discovery” with part of my family and a small group of closest friends. I took many years to realize who I really was and when I finally did, I knew neither Poland, nor Europe at that time (tried Hamburg and Vienna) was the place for me to live my life as a I wanted it to be. When I arrived in NYC in the autumn of 1990, the very first sign registered in my mind was seeing 2 men holding hands and walking through the Greenwich Village. A sight I have never seen before, but have longed for (even if unconsciously) my whole life. That moment ... that sight ...there I knew, that was the place I belonged. And that is why NYC has had become my home for the next 24 years.

And I just couldn’t imagine living anywhere else, since every visited part of US seemed no different than every place I have known in Poland. New York was the only place I could feel free as a gay man, and nothing could match that, neither Warsaw, nor Paris, not even London (yes, I did my share of traveling and comparing).

So let me tell you about Poland. It is not really different from the US. A mixed bag really ... there is prejudice fueled by ignorance in both places. I have seen as much racism in the US as antisemitism in Poland. I have seen as many stupid, uneducated people in my home town 40 miles away from Warsaw as in any place within the same distance away from Manhattan. So you think you are better ... why?

The problem with the world we are living in is not the location but the ignorance. That’s how I see both the Poles and the Americans. They are not bad people ... they sometimes don’t know any better. I do consider the Poles to be as anti-Semitic as much as I see the Americans being racist. However, I remember the time, many years ago, when the Polish TV announced showing of the “Fiddler On The Roof”. Very few people had any clue what was it about. For me, being fascinated by American musical theater it was an event of a lifetime. Unfortunately, very few of us watched the first showing, fortunately everyone who did raved to everyone about it. Withing the next 2 weeks the Polish TV received thousands and thousands of letters practically begging to show this movie again ... about the lives of poor Russian Jews from a little town of Anatevka. Tthe second showing was no different than the first Beatles appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show. The whole country just stopped and was glued to (mostly black and white) TV screens. Not far from when the “Roots” premiered on American TV (except the color).

So let me ask again ... why do you hate Poland? I go there every year, enjoying the theater life in Warsaw more than I ever enjoyed most of Broadway. The few Polish movies I watch are still better than most of the Hollywood crap I refuse to see. There is something about the Slavic soul that with few drinks make you dance on a table and then spend the night in philosophical dispute about the meaning of life. If anyone say that the Polish are reserved .... well, have you seen how some Americans behave in Europe. Once in Paris I have seen this “we own the world” attitude and it was the most embarrassing moment of my life ... as an American citizen. If you still hate the Poles I can assure you the are the most hardworking people you will ever see. I have lived in the US for almost 30 years now and have never seen even one Polak on unemployment. So before you make your judgement, just look around and think a bit ... My father was a concentration camp survivor ... and yes, there is some Jewish blood in my veins and that’s why he could not be released until the end of the II WW. Having been living in the US for many years there were numerous incidents where some self-entitled American Jew stated the Poles where worst than the Germans. This comes from people who have never been affected by the Holocaust, but feel enabled to all the benefits. Unlike my father who I have never heard making any anti-Semitic remark in my entire life.

OK ... with the Polish sausage thing ... sorry but it's a myth ... seriously you are better off by just getting the HillShire Farm 1Lb pack.

Those I've known had hairless blonds with chunky arses and big, fat uncut cocks... But not very brainy.

There are over 40 million Poles around the World R76 ... you can't make a judgement based on your limited whoring experience. If you want to talk about Fellini, Bergman, Anotnioni ... I'm all ears ... but dick wise I'm not big and fat ... so I guess it marks the end of discussion.

And yes ... I've got a nice ass too ... but somehowI have this indiscriminate feeling that you are not such a catch yourself ... no?

"Indiscriminate feeling?" Is that really the word you wanted to use, R78?

We used to go to a Polish catholic church if we were too late for our usual. The place was the tackiest church ever. Blue carpeting throughout. Ever since then I thought the Poles to be extremely garish and tacky. I will say Krakow looks charming.

[quote]Why does everyone hate Poland?

Too many Po' people.

Have you met my son-in-law, the Meathead?

This is why everyone hates it:

Well, looks like my latest trick is in for a shock. He's moving over there next month, going in blind having and not knowing a soul. He has been stationed there as part of a postgraduate course and seems to know nothing about it beyond the linguistic/literary. He's bought jumpers for the cold, but that's as far as he's prepared.

Then, he looks rather Slavic (peachy blond, tall, icy eyes, hirsute) and is a strapping 'straight' from a respectable Christian family so I don't think he'll run into any trouble. Or do the Poles think poorly of the Brits these days?

As long as he not jew he be ok.

Poland has produced some outstanding composers such as Frederic Chopin, Wojciech Kilar,and Henryk Wieniawski and quite a few others.

Some excellent writers include Adam MicKiewicz, Z. Nalkowska, Joseph Conrad, and Jan Kott.

All of you Pole haters, delusional bitches ... just open your eyes and see what has have been happening in America. Oh, you are so great with your history of "White Only" regulations in the past, with your unjustified wars (Vietnam, Iraq) past and present, supporting every vile dictatorship everywhere, especially in Latin America at any time.

This is the most selfish, self-centered nation I have seen. Everything is about ME! ME! ME!. The notion of the good of society is as alien to you as the life on Mars.

Every civilized country in the World has health care system that you bitches will never have ... and millions of people in this country have absolutely no access to basic health care services. The quality of public education in this country is an abomination.

The only thing you are good with is these fake smiles with white teeth devoid of any real feelings.

Not everyone, I have met some decent people here ... but the most of you are just something out of "Deliverance".

After 28 years of living here, I am about ready for a change ... can't stand this fucking country anymore.

r87, MARY!!!!!!

My husband visited Poland last spring he found it to be a really modern, clean, and genuinely nice place. He was in Warsaw but also out in the sticks.

I just worry about it's uber-nationalist right wing government. I hope this is just a minor glitch in their recent history.

What LOLA ... can't take the heat R88?

How has the current Polish government (that I personally despise) affected your own life R89? Now let's redirect the question ... and think about the tenfold increase in global terrorism caused by the Bush administration.

Everybody doesn't hate Poland. That trolling. True, it's not fabulous like Denmark.

Neither is the US ... unfortunately.

R70 they hate everything besides cabbage and potatoes. Sour, dour joyless nation of farm labourers.

Polish people are good looking.

Amazing that they continue with their extreme Jew hating even after all the Jews of Poland have either been killed or driven out.

So does the Ukraine r96

Ugly, soulless people.

Listen to this lovely Polish rendition of Camille Saint-Saëns' Dance Macabre. Notice the unspoiled young ladies and men.

My Polish grandmother pronounced it kew-BAH-sah. I've never heard anyone else pronounce it that way though.

R63 wins.

The ones that grow up here are pretty rah rah patriotic Americans.

Dour and humorless people, not that far removed from their Russian brethren.

I don't think Roman Polanski hates it.

Dear idiot OP. Everyone does not hate it. I live in Germany and visit Poland often, I love it.

"Polish decent"

R41, I prefer Polish indecent.

How many Poles does it take to change a mind?

I met a man of Polish descent once and made the mistake of telling him a Polish joke (what? I didn't know he was Polish). Not only did he get offended, he then proceeded to blame the Jews for all the Polish jokes that were then in popular rotation.

Did the Jews start the Polish joke thing?

Isn’t it true that the UK doesn’t want Poles to stay there because they’re making it a majority catholic country?

Q: Why did the Polack cross the road?

A: He couldn't get his dick out of the chicken.

[quote] Amazing that they continue with their extreme Jew hating even after all the Jews of Poland have either been killed or driven out

Christian Eastern Europeans don’t like Muslims or Jews. As far as they’re concerned Muslims and Jews are middle eastern occupiers. If I were Muslim or Jewish, I’d stay away. I think Albania might be the only country in Europe where Muslims and Christians wouldn’t stab each other in the back, given the opportunity.

Albania is great except for the honor and revenge killings.

How pleasing to pull and polish a plowing Polish police pole.

I heard someone observe many years ago:

“If you travel around the world, you find that every country has its favorite ethnicity to make jokes about. Americans make Polish jokes; the French make jokes about Belgians; the Germans joke about Italians; etc. But every place you go, the Jewish jokes are exactly the same . . . “

No, not correct.

In Germany we do not make Jewish Jokes.

I know how this is going to sound, but here goes: every Polish person I've ever done business with in the past has proven the humor stereotype correct. They are nice, jovial, pleasant people, but not the most acute people amongst the Europeans I've worked with.

Most of the comment here appear to be from those who have never been with 1,000 miles of the country!