Male rape in history

Donald Trump in Helsinki.

The only male celebrities who have come forward to say that have been sexually assaulted by other men, that I know of, are Terry Crews, James Vanderbeek, Shia Labouf, Tyler Perry and Michael Gaston.

According to Corey Feldman, Corey Haim was molested at the age of 14 and Axl Rose has claimed that he shared a hotel room with a gay man who tried to force himself on Rose.

Prior to the latter half of the 20th century. Other than mentions in old court records of child abuse cases, you'd almost never hear about it because buggery ( consensual or not) was often a capital offence.

Even when it was undoubtedly rape there was a pervasive belief that a man couldn't be raped unless he secretly wanted to be, hence the popular theory in the 30s that TE. Lawrence made up the rape story. (Reading it from a modern perspective he was absolutely telling the truth and it fucked him up for life.)

Richard the Lionheart

It's discussed in the 1968 film, 'The Lion in Winter'.

Male rape was also addressed by the film 'Midnight Cowboy'.

R4

I saw it, and dont remember rape. Relationship between Richard and Philips, yes. Good movie, btw.

The 1920s era serial killer Carl Panzram claimed to have raped hundreds of men

I hate and detest men getting raped in prison jokes. Not funny. Not even close to being funny.

Richard Crenna

Carl Panzram:

[quote]In my lifetime I have murdered 21 human beings, I have committed thousands of burglaries, robberies, larcenies, arsons and, last but not least, I have committed sodomy on more than 1,000 male human beings. For all these things I am not in the least bit sorry.

Nick Nolte in the Prince of Tides. And then he had consensual sex with Barbra, poor guy

Rufus Wainwright.

Tim Roth

Wow R10 - that guys a major fucking asshole

You can't rape the willing!

I thought it was somewhat common in Rome? I remember reading that it could be used as a punishment for theft- all sorts of things. The criminal would have to submit to the aggrieved.

Panzram's confession.

King Edward II of England

R2 The only other one to add to your list that I can think of is Anthony Edwards. He spoke out about it last year. He was abused by POS Gary Goddard. Edwards also said Goddard raped his best friend. Goddard has been accused by multiple men about abuses when they were young.

The sexual abuse of boys and men certainly has been neglected by the #metoo movement (and in general).

joseph gordon levitt had a very disturbing rape scene in the film Mysterious Skin

I agree, r8. Rape is not part of the punishment of incarceration and more should be done to prevent it.

Coronation Street addressed this issue earlier this as one of the leading male characters was raped by his buddy

They did a male story on Law & Order SVU

R21 Thanks for that. If people heard the horrific stories, I have no idea why it is considered funny on any level. I don't mean to offend, but male sexual assault victims are especially isolated. I'm not saying women have an easier time dealing with the aftermath of sexual assault, not saying that at all, but they are offered more support and have more resources available to them.

It goes without saying but I'll say it anyway, sexual assault is not an acceptable sitcom punchline because the victim was male.

No it hasn’t R19. It’s not as prevalent, that is fact, so in volume it is not receiving the same amount because of statistics. It’s not being ignored.

The whining is MRA bullshit meant to make it seem as if people (women in particular) don’t care about men.

Marcellus Wallace while the Gimp watched

That's quite a conclusion, r25.

Whining is a pretty callous term when discussing sexual violence against anyone. Sexual violence, harassment and assault should be the focus of #metoo, not gender.

I have stated my boundaries.

As a woman I'd never really thought about male actors being abused in the same way as women. The metoo movement really kind of opened my eyes to it. If it happens to you it shouldn't matter if you're the only one, your experience is just as valid the next person's

Men are just as entitled to speak out as much as women,. I's not a zero sum game.

What R28 said.

Does rape always mean anal sex in men?

A lot of times, yes R30, but not always.

[quote]Later on I speak with Dr Angella Ntinda, who treats referrals from the RLP. She tells me: "Eight out of 10 patients from RLP will be talking about some sort of sexual abuse." "Eight out of 10 men?" I clarify. "No. Men and women," she says. "What about men?" "I think all the men." I am aghast. "All of them?" I say. "Yes," she says. "All the men."

Rape traumatizes its victims, and many victims afterwards feel shame (unfairly), but for men, the stigma is extremely intense, which is why it's under-reported. I hate those stupid prison rape comments, too. I've been to jail, and was lucky I wasn't attacked, but that was my greatest fear the whole time.

R32 Horrific story.

In Greek mythology, Zeus abducted and raped Ganymede.

There were lots of rumours that RDJ got raped while in prison.

"Deliverance." *shudders*

Eddie Fisher.

People forget that rape is not about sex but about power. Throughout history, it has been used and abused [no pun intended] in every major war by the victor. It’s almost like anyone can come conquer your land and repair women-that is a given outcome of war. The more powerful way to sow fear is to emasculate the men.

What about women raping women, does that go on in women's prisons?

Holy crap, r32. People can be soooo evil.

I was sexually and physically assaulted by a female. It was totally about power. I was in college though, not prison and she was not a girlfriend.

R5 I think you’re thinking of “Midnight Express”

It does r39

Midnight Cowboy as well

Thank you for this thread. Rape as posters have said is a weapon of war. It is a war crime. It is about power, humiliation, and shame. Men are victimized by both men and women.

OP furiously masturbating as she reads the responses

R46, For some of us, there's absolutely nothing 'sexy' about this subject. I post on some of the porn threads sometimes, and I'm not sex-negative, but I hate anything that involves violence or brutality.

R32

R25 Give me a break. Sexual abuse of boys and men is largely neglected—I said neglected, not ignored by the way. It may not be fully ignored, but it is neglected.

You want to talk about stats? 1 in 6 boys before age 18 are victims of sexual abuse, while girls are 1 and 4. 1 in 10 rape survivors are men. Certainly, women and girls are at a greater risk, but if you think it is about stats, we hear about girls and women being victimized overwhelmingly more than boys and men that is disproportionate to the numbers I posted. Me too and times up have improved the awareness a great deal, but men and boys still overwhelmingly get neglected in the dialogue (and action taken).

It’s more about the stigma that makes it even more difficult for men and boys, not them being abused in fewer numbers Look at the numbers I posted. It’s enough of a problem to be acknowledged more in the public than it is.

Rape is about sex, the guys are horny. Everything straight men do is about power including sex. Straight males are ego driven. Pedos are horny for young boys asses and rape boys. Pedos don't rape women because women dont make them horny. Straight men rape women because the are horny for pussy, in prison they have to settle for the most effeminate man they can find.

When straight men and pedos fuck they aren't empathizing with their partners. There is never any emotional connection with fucking with straight men and pedos the sex acts are about satisfying horniness to get that physical release and dominance, control and humiliation. Straight male sex and pedo sex is sociopathic there is no emotional connection occuring.

Straight male porn is always very rapey with a hyper fixation on sodomy and humiliation of the woman. It makes men straight horny seeing women being humiliated the more degrading the more they get turned on. Straight men spend there days playing violent murderous video games all day pretending that they are conquerors and watching rapey anal humiliation porn all day.

Straight males are animals, the more testosterone the more sub human and animalistic= blacks, arab and latino men. Those are the most violent and rapey. Most of the great inventions were made by asexual male celibate virgins and gay men. That's a fact.

R16 It is now widely believed Mark Antony was misquoted, as he said "Friends, Romans, countrymen - lend me your rears!"

Rimbaud wrote a poem about being gang raped.

"Ohhh, anal rape, anal rape, anal rape!"

R49

"Pedos don't rape women because women dont make them horny."

Are you fucking high? More little girls are raped buy pedophiles than boys.

Today in fucked up statistics...

"Female deaths in connection with the rapes in Germany, overall, are estimated at 240,000."

There isn't much info on male rape after Ww2 but it was probably rife. Someone I knew who was a prisoner in Bergen Belsen said that rape of men by SS was pretty common.

Oooh the germans

R55 Oooh the Russians in this case though.

I believe actor Roger Moore talked in an interview about being molested (or almost) as a kid.

The sexual abuse & rape of boys by Sandusky a few years ago brought more attention to the issue of male rape.

The entire history of Irish Catholicism.

[quote] the popular theory in the 30s that TE. Lawrence made up the rape story. (Reading it from a modern perspective he was absolutely telling the truth and it fucked him up for life.)

He came when the Turk fucked him. That's what messed him up, not being able to deal with it.

I've read a lot about ancient Rome, R16, and I've never heard of rape being used as a judicial punishment.

I've heard of the nastier emperors raping anyone they fancied, generals raping male subordinates, male slaves of every age being raped, prisoners of war, etc. Plus the forcible castration of slaves and prisoners, but never rape as a legal punishment. I mean, who would do the raping?

Midnight Cowboy - Job Voight’s character was made to sleep with his Mama and her Boyfriend when he was a child.

Byron was molested by his nanny as a child.

UK author Edward St Aubyn, raped as a child by his father. It's discussed in his novel 'Never Mind', the first of the Patrick Melrose sequence recently filmed for TV.

A boyfriend of mine told me that he had been raped by two girls. He had wanted to fool around with one of them, but the other one liked him more and they both pounced on him. I don’t remember the details, but he described going along with it to get it over with. He’d ejaculated but felt gross and ashamed later. He also described feeling overpowered and was adamant that he said “no” and they disregarded him.

We were teenagers at the time, and it was the 80s so it never occurred to me that a man could feel raped by a woman. I couldn’t believe that he was describing a situation that most straight guys fantasize about, but he felt victimized by it.

Also: My husband told me that one of his mother’s friends made a rather aggressive pass at him when he was a teenager. Again, I was surprised to find that it was unwanted. I only know her as an older woman, and even now she’s very attractive. She was gorgeous back when this happened. But he said it was frightening. They didn’t have actual intercourse, but she was sexually aggressive and did things to him that he didn’t want. She is the CEO of a company you’ve probably heard of.

Not sure if this is what OP was talking about, but I hadn’t seen this variation mentioned. It happens.

Senator Ted Kennedy tells of being sexually abused at the age of eight while away at boarding school. Sadly, he goes on to tell of one of his school mates of the same age packing his suitcase and leaving the school by foot, only to be intercepted and brought back by one of the men in charge. He made the disclosure in the autobiography he wrote before his death.

apparently 50% of pupils in those fancy "public schools", according to british 20th century novels.

R42 It may have been dealt with in 'Midnight Express', I haven't watched that in a while, but in flashback scenes Jon Voight's character and his character's girlfriend are both raped by a group of men in 'Midnight Cowboy'.

R32 that’s one of the most horrific things I’ve ever read. The Congo seems to have the most brutal rape as warfare stories.

Why do so many post about fictional characters in movies and TV?

There is chatter in very old documents that pirates raped as part of their pillaging.

There was an old blind in google newsgroups about an actor from the 1950s who was gang raped in Hollywood. Set up by some gay power brokers like producers and big time actors. Was a popular television and film star. Never found anything else about him. No name or nothing. He was known for a western tv series...after it ended, he did a couple of things but nothing permanent. The rape made him paranoid and he self medicated. Died.

R49, oh you poor dear thing...

Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys claimed to have been raped (several times) by different black men. Once on his boat by a handyman, another time by a plumber. His friends were skeptical about it and relegated his confession to a drunken "fantasy."

Dennis was a hottie. I remember being all tingly looking at shirtless photos of him when I was a young gayling.

R59, sexual abuse by priests happened all over the world, not just Ireland. Over 10,000 allegations have been in made in the U.S. alone.

Welcome to the Catholic Church. Our rapists-in-training are passing the basket for your contributions.

TIA

To be fair our three main exports to America have been people, poetry and pedophile priests

^^ and booze

Papist Rapist

The Irish people became American cops and railroad workers, so there's that.

Injun Joe managed to overpower both Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn.

I don't know nothin'!

Muammar Gaddafi used to imprison and rape his male adversaries. That's why when he was finally overthrown he was dragged through the streets while people stuck knives up his ass.

R84 he was actually raped to death with a bayonet. Fucked up.

[QUOTE]he was actually raped to death with a bayonet

Perfect ending for such a monster.

Sadam Hussein was gang raped as a child

Didn't the Menendez brothers claim their father Jose raped them when they were young?

Credo Mutwe ( African folklorist/ Author of Indaba My Children) Was raped as a child. He was taken to a Sangoma or witch doctor for trauma and began to learn mythology from him.

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I remember watching that TV movie called "The Executioners Song" about that guy who demanded that he be killed by firing squad - based on true events. Tommy Lee Jones played the lead and he had a scene where he told his brother that back when he was a kid and sent to multiple juvenile facilities, he was molested/raped there. He also related that when he got big enough, he was one of the boys holding the new kids down as they were raped/molested - how it was just a vicious cycle of male rape in those places.

If you're naming movies, here's two: TV movie from the 70's "The Glass House" - long-time prisoner Vic Morrow puts the moves on cute new fish Kristofer Tabori, offering him perks like angel dust(!) to be his special friend. Kristofer declines and Vic's anger turns to threats of rape. KT is raped near the end of the film.

Same theme in another 70's movie "Scarecrow". Hitchhiking buddy team of Al Pacino and Gene Hackman are thrown into jail for some infraction. A fellow prisoner gets young Al alone and tries to seduce him. Al rejects the advances and It is heavily implied that Al is raped by the guy.

[QUOTE]Muammar Gaddafi used to imprison and rape his male adversaries.

And where does this come from?

Yes. Even men can't escape being victims in a rape culture.

So hold on to your privileges fellas. I'm sure that will save you from...oh, wait.

I don’t think most DLers are worried about escaping it. They just hope their perpetrator uses lube.

Doesn’t the poop smell turn the rapists off? I doubt most of the victims were freshly douched.

I’d imagine that when you’re raping someone, the adrenaline is overflowing so much that you don’t really smell anything.

Prison movies are a staple for this theme: the movies "Fortune and Men's Eyes" and "Short Eyes" had plots involving rape of prisoners.

So did "The Shawshank Redeption", where the innocent hero is raped multiple times.

For some reason, a movie where a man is raped in prison and then escapes to live his life with a male best friend... is considered a straight guy's man's man's film.

Donald Trump in Helsinki.

That was love, I'll have you know!

I remember reading an article about mass rape of males - it has happened during The Crusades, WWII, The Bosnian conflict, wars and ethnical conflicts in Congo, Sri Lanka, El Salvador ... but no one talks about it, it has been hushed up (well I would say so) since forever. Some of the victims don't even survive the rape because of the injuries and blood loss. And the survivors have no one, no trained professionals, to talk to because officially "such things don't happen!" It's so awful and sad ...yet interesting (in a way) that it is (still) this big taboo subject. Apparently males cannot think of themselves as victims. The narrative is that women are weak and must always be the victims while men are strong and therefore always the perpetrators. Lara Stemple published some interesting facts about sexual violence against men.

I seem to remember that a scene in The Wire featured an oral rape by some criminal on a major male character (a detective)

The ‘squeal like a pig’ scene in Deliverance was kinda funny.

R87 He was also regulary raped by his uncle Khairallah Talfah which explains why young Saddam would torture street cats by sticking a red hot iron up their...well... (according to one of his biographers)

Sometimes I think I'm too sensitive for this world. I would rather exist in one of these nice Jehova's Witnesses fantasies of Paradise where everyone lives in peace and harmony.

And everyone is attractive too!

That's my ideal world! Enough with the talk about rape and animal cruelty!

You aren't looking close enough at those images. Where is Jeezee's other hand?

[QUOTE]I seem to remember that a scene in The Wire featured an oral rape by some criminal on a major male character (a detective)

You’re thinking of The Shield. And he was a Captain, not a Detective.

"I remember reading an article about mass rape of males - it has happened during The Crusades, WWII, The Bosnian conflict, wars and ethnical conflicts in Congo, Sri Lanka, El Salvador ..."

If it was never reported you wouldn't know about it. Anyway, you sound like a MRA nut who wants to bash females rather than someone who is genuinely concerned about rape.

What is an MRA nut? I didn't think the poster sounded like a nut at all. I just don't think what he says is accurate. Male rape occurs when there are no women around to rape. The mass rape of women, and rape used as a weapon of war, has been known and fairly well documented in the Bosnian and African conflicts mentioned.

[quote] I seem to remember that a scene in The Wire featured an oral rape by some criminal on a major male character (a detective)

How did that work? How do you force someone else to have an erection?

[QUOTE]How did that work? How do you force someone else to have an erection?

The rape victim was the receptive partner. He was orally raped.

There's a documentary about sexual abuse in the military and a percentage of those affected are men.

Also, I remember watching a documentary about gays placed into Nazi concentration camps. One survivor refused to talk in depth about the abuse but referred to being raped with objects while imprisoned.

Abu Ghraib

Interestingly, there was at least one woman involved in the sexual abuse at Abu Ghraib.

I wish people would realize that once you release the dogs of war, every evil thing imaginable, and then a lot more, will take place. Why so many people are so naive about this is beyond me (not referring to you, R14, I mean people in general and the pundits especially).

R113, is this the documentary you're talking about?

In the Night Porter i remember a flashback in the camps showing a hot (i'm sorry, he showed a hot ass) nazi fucking a male prisoner.

Gay male fantasy

Russian soldiers didn’t discriminate on basis of gender when it came to gang rapes as they marauded their way through Nazi Germany in the waning days of the Second World War.

There is actually some evidence in the written record for Vikings raping male monks when they tried to conquer England in the 10th century.

There was a TV movie in the 80s about a cop who is raped by a criminal. I can't remember the title or the actor who starred in it but I'm sure elder DLers will recall.

Do you mean the tv movie "The rape of Richard Beck" also known as "Deadly justice"? R121

That's the one. I knew I could count on you bitches.

The scene at 40:00 must have been written by a DLer.

Jamie Fraser.

[quote]Rape as posters have said is a weapon of war. It is a war crime.

Remember when the UN finally acknowledged rape as a warning crime and idiots (likely deplorables) misunderstood and went off for days about how the UN was ENDORSING rape to be used in war?

I always felt like that was a good example of how people often can't even grasp what rape is even about. It's more difficult when men are the victims.

Despite what the guy upthread said, MeToo has brought men's stories out into the mainstream, and helped take some of the stigma out of it.

But it's still bad; the last Terry Crewes thread I saw on here was almost entirely full of DLers calling him a liar and a pussy.

Cervantes in Argel

There was an NFL player (his name escapes me) for the NY Jets about 15 years ago who came forward about being raped as a kid by, I think, his stepdad.

There should be a universal law hat would condemn any man that commits rape- to any gender-to have his penis chopped off.

Lavernious Coles r128? I think that is how he spells his name. He is rumored to have hooked up with Tyler Perry.

[quote]There is actually some evidence in the written record for Vikings raping male monks when they tried to conquer England in the 10th century.

Dang, can you imagine how hot it would be to be raped by an honest-to-god Viking? Yowza!

r131 = complete idiot

[quote]There is actually some evidence in the written record for Vikings raping male monks when they tried to conquer England in the 10th century

They would rape the younger attractive monks and in many cases they would keep them.

The Show Vikings never went there but there were always undertones of homoerotism between the monk and the Viking.

R1 you're brilliant. Haven't laughed like this in a long time.

OP, gets the internet prize for broaching an interesting topic that often gets brushed under the carpet.

....

OP wrote this with one hand ....

Ohhhhhh, anal RAPE, anal rape, anal rape!

R54, in "Exodus," the Sal Mineo character talks about having been raped in a camp during the war.

FWIW, Kirk Douglas was in at least three movies about rape (in one of which, "In Harm's Way," he was the rapist). Strange, in view of certain rumors.

Isn't there something in "Spartacus" about the Curtis character having been raped? Apart from the "snails and oysters" come-on of Olivier's Crassus.

There was a news story (in the early 90s?) about Stephen Spielberg having a stalker.

When they apprehended him he had a knapsack full of handcuffs, duct tape, sex toys, etc.

So, Spielberg almost made this list.

"I genuinely in my heart of hearts believe I could have been raped, maimed or killed. The same thing could have happened to my wife or kids," Spielberg said. "If he's out on the street, I will live in fear that he is prowling around the neighborhood."

Someone has to tell these rebels in Africa who rape other men as a way to demean them and make then seem/feel less masculine that getting an erection hard enough to let you penetrate another man means that you are attracted to that man an therefore YOU ARE THE ONE THAT'S GAY

R105, I'll say! JC looks like Jarec Wentworth.

"Someone has to tell these rebels... "

Be my guest, R142.

Tim Roth is very open about having been raped by his grandfather.

There were rumours that RDJ was raped in prison.

Re Spielberg and the alleged "stalker", rumour has it that the guy was Spielberg's lover and Spielberg wanted to get rid of him so he staged the whole near rape/stalking thing.

Here’s Laveranues Coles‘ story:

This goes on notoriously in the wrestling business, and has for decades and decades.

WWE Developmental and Crew still don't do background checks and keep known offenders on payroll.

R2 both Coreys went on record saying that the first attack on Hai m happened on the set of LUCAS, and a bone-chilling scene in the LifeTime biopic about them made last year alludes to this incident which the Coreys later discuss.

The shooting of LUCAS was a tough year all-round for Haim despite the accomplishment of his performance; besides suffering a severe sexual assault (possibly the first of several) and subsequently his parents' acrimonious public divorce he also began drinking to cope with the pressure of stardom (at age 14) following the influence of a "guardian" he had in RDJ, and furthermore had a major romantic heartbreak to deal with in conjunction with sexuality confusion. For all his success, in some ways he really did have a painful young adolescence for such a nice normal kid. From the wiki:

[quote] H aim read for River Phoenix's role in Stand By Me while eating lunch in director Rob Reiner's backyard, and got the part then turned it down the same day that he was offered Lucas. He later said he would not have changed his decision. H aim turned 14 on the set in Chicago and fell in love with Kerri Green, who played his romantic interest in the film. Not realizing she was 18, he asked her out unsuccessfully. H aim's unrequited love for Green helped inspire his performance, with the real-life dynamics between them expressed on screen. Hai m was nominated for a Young Artist Award for his performance as Lucas, and film critic Roger Ebert gave him a glowing review.

^ I READ THAT FAST AND THOUGHT YOU WROTE ROGER BLOWING HIM!

He is just so fine.

Aside from the vikings, I have to imagine male rape in ancient Greece was common. Since both gay sex and warfare were common there

R150 here. Apologies. Wrong thread.

The guy from the ‘Midnight Express’ book. Raped in Turkish prison, they depicted it in the movie too.

[quote] You want to talk about stats? 1 in 6 boys before age 18 are victims of sexual abuse, while girls are 1 and 4.

Yeah, both of these stats are complete bullshit.

Of course male rape was common and legal in ancient Greek and Rome, and most other slave-owning cultures through history. A man could do what he liked with his slaves, and buggering your page boy or strapping farmhands didn't make you gay!

No, back then it was only considered to be rape if you forced yourself on someone freeborn, or on someone freeborn and near your own social status. Of course we today consider fucking an unwilling slave to be rape, but to a slave-owner it's just getting your money's worth.

Remember when Dr. Jack Morrison was raped by the scary prisoner on St. Elsewhere? The rapist later breaks into his house and tries to rape his wife (while singing Black Water by the Doobies) but is shot by their young son. Horrifying.

WW for R1 and R11

Why do men make jokes about male victims? Why do men laugh at anything when faced with adversity? Fear. No man wants to admit that he could be overpowered and sexually assaulted by another man. So laugh at it...it’s what we do. Even some women are uncomfortable with the concept of a male victim of rape.

The was an ex-prisoner who posted on Google newsgroups back in the day to was pretty open and honest about getting raped more than once while serving a sentence for burglary. When he got out, he moved back in with his girlfriend. When she found out that her father had died after a heart attack she refused to go to the funeral. They guy asked her why and she told him that her father had raped her on several occasions when she was a teenager. She started to cry about it. To offer her some comfort and empathy, he finally told her about his own sexual assaults he suffered through.

Instead of accepting this, she looked at him and said, “Wow, what a punk you are! I can’t believe that you let some other guy punk you out like that!”. She started to attack his manhood and he lost it and nearly beat her to death. He ended up back in jail for another decade. It’s hard for me to have sympathy for her at all...she got what was coming to her. But he probably would have been better off just leaving her.

Did Charlemagne take it up the chute sans consent?

R158

Thats horrible.

R121. I remember that movie. It wasn't all that hot, even back then.

R158, you seriously think she got what was coming to her? She was very cruel, but that doesn't justify violence. Also prison rape needs to be addressed. I think some guards are by far worse than some of the prisoners they over see.

R2 weren't both Fred and Ben Savage, and Sean Scott Williams also abused?

R16 that goes on in Muslim countries today, and it has been happening for centuries.

R158 I am a bisexual man and I do not joke about rape of men, or women. I also know that as a man I could be date raped by men. I do not hook up with men or women anymore, as I had one guy choke me during sex, but I know bi and gay men who have been raped by men.

R103 I am not surprised he was raped or sexually abused but most Muslims love cats because Muhammad had one, and they hate dogs as dogs were ordered to be killed by Muhammad.

R72 who was that actor? It was long before I was even alive.

Speaking of rape and war this is one that was covered up and more have happened that we do not hear about. 😞

R102 I attended the University of South Carolina, where James Dickey wrote Deliverance and taught as poet-in-residence from 1968 until his death. There is a marker outside of the McCutchen House, noting that it is where he wrote most of the novel. The building is now home to the School of Hotel, Restaurant and Tourism Management, who operates various dining options at the location. One day a professor of mine, asked me to join her and some donors for lunch there. The waitress came to our table and said something along the lines of "Welcome to the Historic McCutchen House. where the author James Dickey wrote one of the Great American Novels, Deliverance. Our special today is roast PORK." I got a salad, there was no way I could eat pork and think about Deliverance at the same time.

Ok that's funny, R168.

I was sexually assaulted by Rick Day during a photo shoot. He forced himself on me orally. I was happy when some models spoke out and I contacted the media too but no one cared. It still bothers me. I hate him and myself for not stopping it.

Great thread, but remember we're all helping a lazy, entitled Yale undergrad write a term paper for a Gender Studies course, and when THEY serialize it as a graphic memoir we will get ZERO percent of the royalties

R167, Was it Nick Adams?

Anyone have any clue who the actor R72 posted about?

You can't rape the willing r1

R159 I never read about him being bisexual, or having been raped or raping anyone in any of the biographies and history books I have read about him.

Do you have a source for this, r119?

Was it rapey rape?

[quote] The only male celebrities who have come forward to say that have been sexually assaulted by other men, that I know of, are Terry Crews, James Vanderbeek, Shia Labouf, Tyler Perry and Michael Gaston.

The OP asked about rape.

Terry Crews, James Vanderbeek, and Michael Gaston claim that they were only groped.

And Shia LeeBeouf's story is pretty ridiculous: he claims a WOMAN '"raped" him when he was doing his performance art of putting a bag over his head, that the woman's boyfriend was present and witnessed it and was incredibly unhappy, even though apparently neeither he nor Shia did anything to stop the woman from raping Shia.

So really, Tyler Perry is the only person you've named who has believably claimed to have been raped.

And what's worse is the James Van Der Beek quote was taken completely out of context

We're the Viet cong raped by any bisexual solders at the vietnam war?

[quote] It’s hard for me to have sympathy for her at all...she got what was coming to her.

You're a fucking psycho.

What about during colonial times? I could see Ben Franklin abusing his power

Can't rape the willing Jimmy.

R182 Franklin was hetero and fucked lots of hookers, mistresses, and had children with some of them. Did he abuse his power? Possibly and probably yes by today's standards. But I have never read amything that suggested he was bisexual or gay.

Only one post before it became a Trump thread. It was a while ago when the treason gals were still fresh. So we can let it slide.

Did any US Calvary rape any male Indians?

Yeah Whoopi is gonna chime in

Lawrence of Arabia?

That is interesting about Nick Adams. Nick Adam's death was very bazaar. Apparently Nick Adams said he was going to write a book about all of the garbage on Hollywood that he knew, which he knew A LOT!!, and expose a lot of people. Near that time, Nick was found dead.Police claimed it was a robbery gone wrong. However, Nick had a silver service in his home and other valuables and nothing was taken accept for one thing, his manuscript on his book was missing. He was going through a horrendous divorce ,and child custody battle at the time, and it was thought he might have committed suicide. However,friends said he would have never ever commit suicide because he would never leave his children because they met the world to him.

I never get why people like to run their mouth first and tell everyone what they're planning to do. Shut your ass up and release the book. Then it's out there. Dumb ass. Like Marilyn Monroe. "I'm gonna tell everyone about the Kennedy's". OVER YOUR DEAD BODY.

Supposedly Richard Burton raped Eddie Fisher when Fisher kept whining and carrying on about having Elizabeth Taylor stolen away from him. I've read that several times. It certainly shut up Fisher thereafter.

Vlad Tepes aka Dracula was most likely raped as a child at the Turkish court.

was sexually assaulted by some guys in college; the guys had connections to donors (Yeah, I know that's vague)...it was horrific; the whole time it was happening I thought what's the only way they'll make sure I never talk? Yeah, kill me. That didn't happen (duh, I'm here), but it's what I was thinking.

While I was agonizing over what to do about it all afterwards they actually BRAGGED about it. Before I knew I was being pulled in two different directions -- those donor connections telling me to shrug it off "boys will be boys" and some women at the college who were livid over what happened to me. I was in shock.

I thought if my family found out I'd either be kicked out of the house or it would traumatize my widowed mother.

It was horrific. I almost killed myself.

Made me realize we're all ultimately alone in life.

R194 I’m sorry you went through that.

[quote] I've read that several times.

And the source was always a Darwin Porter book.

Unreliable gossip is one thing, but please don't ever quote Darwin Porter books as if they had any relation to reality.

R195, thanks.

I don't think I've ever shared that in such detail before.

It's important for me to tell you that I transferred to another part of the campus the following year and made good friends, one wonderful one in particular.

R197 thread is about male rape.

R198, my story is about male on male sexual assault. Close enough?

Gabriel Byrne, Tim Roth, Oliver Jackson-Cohen, Common, Alex Winter and Billy Connolly have all talked about being sexually assaulted by men as children. In Roth and Connolly's cases, it was incest. Nick and Aaron Carter were both sexually abused by Lou Pearlman.

I had a very wild youth that Im surprised I survived,but during part of that I did a 4 year stint in prison. I knew of many guys that were "pressure punks" ,as in intimidated to submit,but I only ever met 2 that were out and out forcibly raped.One of them being the porn star Jon King (real name Jon Gaines) .His nickname was "Super punk" because of his muscular build. We remained friends for years after until he died of aids,wich he swore to me he got during the rape. The only other guy I knew who was gang raped was only 16 when it happened,and he committed suicide a few years after he got out.I cant speak for all the ones I knew who were pressured into it,but I cant imagine it was a healthy experience for them either. My point is that yes,theres a ton of prison sex happening,but far fewer are forcible rape than you'd think. Of course terrifying someone into submitting could be considered forcible I guess.

[quote]Did any US Calvary rape any male Indians?

Being holy people, I suppose it's possible. You know how sexually hypocritical the "christians" can be.

However, I think you meant to ask if any US CAVALRY raped the male Indians. "Calvary" and "cavalry" are not interchangeable words. As to whether the cavalry might have been out raping the Indians, maybe so. Those horndog soldiers seemed to find all kinds of things to stick their dicks into.

Years ago I was binge reading James Elroy novels - and it seemed after a while that all his heroes - and villains! - had been raped or sexually assaulted at some point - and that became the motivation that drive them - either towards good or evil.

After reading several of his books, I'd start a new one and it'd come up - and I'd think - AGAIN???

Is there no other motivation that drives his men other than having been raped??

I think I read later that Rllroy himself had been assaulted when younger and in juvenile detention (? I may have misremembered the location and circumstances) - but it was no surprise to discover it as he seemed to be obsessed with the topic in his writings.

*James Ellroy R203. But that's not uncommon. A lot of trauma survivors use art or creative work to work out their feelings about what happened to them. It's really common.

R32 what's RLP?

I imagine some of the things we did in Uni dorms 20 years ago today might be considered sexual assault. For instance, it was the norm to tear guys' clothes off and tie them to a chair then parade them around the dorms on our shoulders Is this kind of thing no longer in fashion?

R206, that's not what happened to me.

I think what you described sounds humiliating and I can imagine how anyone doing it would feel if it were done to them.

R206 Jon Hamm

Some biographies claim Clyde Barrow was raped in prison.

I overheard my mom tell someone that my father told her that he had sex with a girl in her early 20s when he was 12. He apparently liked it. His family found out when she tried to seduce his 9-year-old brother.

Later, my father would rape my sister for years.

^^^ r210 😞 I’m so deeply sorry that this happened to you and your sister.

May you somehow find peace and comfort in this often cold, brutal world we live in and know that people, even strangers on the DL, care about you.

I know a guy - kinda occasional fuckbuddy/friend - whose uncle used to have sex with him when he was a kid - i'm thinking he said it started just before adolescence - and eventually it turned out he was fiddling his own son too - and then would have threeways with them both. My friend is still kinda fucked up over it. He's conflicted cos he knows it was wrong - but he enjoyed it so much and has a huge daddy fetish now - tho he himself as an adult is a top. He and his cousin would play occasionally during teen years and into their early twenties - till the cousin married and moved away.

I gather the uncle had a heart attack - died - and then it came out he'd been diddling his daughters too. Which makes my friend feel even worse to know that this man was doing that.

It's really fucked up. But I think his whole family is odd - for all their respectable suburban facade...

R187 I guess the two spirit natives raped other tribes they fought?

R212 that is fucked up yet not surprising. Please tell your friend to see a therapist.

R201 Jon King was probably infected with HIV by having unprotected sex as top or bottom in porn and while escorting in the early, mid, or late 1980s. Rest in peace. The linked site is obviously NSFW-not safe for work.

R215 Oh Im sure. he was a cum pig before the term was coined,God love him. Im just telling you what he said. He also was blind as a bat and wore thick glasses,but not many people ever saw him in them. When he first landed in the prison I was at we became fast friends,and I had to school him on the ways of prison sex. He used to freak the boys out by whipping out his cock and jacking off while sucking them ! I had to tell him "honey,they arent gay men having sex with a gay man!" He was also notorious for incredibly wet and sloppy blow jobs. That being said,he was a sweet and gentle soul and the gang rape really fucked his head up. In fact they let him out of prison early if he wouldnt sue them for the rape.We hung out a lot in Gainesville,and stayed in touch until right before he died.He tried like hell to have a 3 some with me and my husband,but I didnt take it personally as he was just like that. he wanted to fuck anyone,anytime.It still saddens me when I see his pics,he was such a lost and lovely soul. I went with him once to see his family in Savannah and a nicer family you'd never hope to meet. His father was ex military if I remember correctly,and his mother and siblings were so nice it puzzled me how he ended up where he did in life. They loved him openly and completely supported him even during his times of trouble.

there's this site called Breeders and Fuckers; they have two guys, Dave and Adrian, who somehow manage to trick some guy into getting naked and then they force themselves on the guy, usually bound up.

some of the videos were hot but later ones have featured flat out rape.

I'm all for a little 'struggle and snuggle' but rape? Horrific.

I was shocked when I saw this Belgian movie in college in 1982. Very graphic male rape scene at 1 26 09. The guy likes it and turns gay!

Is Surprise Anal rape?

Carl Panzram didn't just start raping dudes for no reason. He ran away from home at a very young age and the first boxcar he hopped on was full of hobos and they gang raped him. From then on it was all bets off, per his words. He had some sort of a head injury at a young age as well from having a botched inner ear operation and he said he never felt right after it.

His confessions are really sad because you can see that he never was allowed to develop an emotional life and he really had no one at all, from a very young age. And then that first day on his own, still a child, he gets gang raped by a gaggle of hobos. It's surprising he wasn't even more of a monster imo.

His prison guard iirc was the one who transcribed his confessions, so he couldn't have been that much of a monster, for the guard to pity him in that way and spend so much time with him, and risk punishment from the higher ups.

Clyde Barrow being raped in prison doesn't surprise me, he was the definition of fresh meat when he first started his record.

just once I'd like to see a male rape victim whip out a gun and shoot his attacker(s)

Well if you want male rape in movies, there's a Dutch film from 1980 called "Spetters", one of those mean-streets things.

There's a closet case who flirts with gay men and then punches them out and steals their wallet, and a bunch of leathermen take revenge and gang-rape him. SPOILER ALERT: He likes it, and ends up dating one of the leathermen.

R194 I am sorry you went through that. I have met more than a few bisexual and gay men, and even some hetero men who were raped, sexually abused, or sexually assaulted.

R220 I read his journals. Panzram was also cut or circumcised to prevent him from masturbation. I do wonder if he murdered any men or women while in central America, like he apparently did in African countries, and North America?

R201 was he bisexual or gay? Was he ever the escort for famous bisexual and gay men? If so who were they?

This very early bisexual activist was raped in prison. It had to have fucked him up as it does to everyone.

R227

Wow, brutal story.

R194, how horrible! Your last sentence is also so true.

:-( most rapes and sexual assault of men go unreported.

OP, Terry Crewes wasn’t sexually assaulted. Some agent drunkenly grabbed his ass at a party (in front of his wife) and Crewes was so affronted that he destroyed the man’s life and career. If it hadn’t happened at the height of “MeToo” he would never have been able to make it the big media sensation that he did.

R223 meet R218.

Goodbye, "see" queen.

Veronica Hamel narrated a documentary on rape. This was mostly about women. The topic of fantasizing about being controlled came up.

She explained it well that the woman (or man) is controlling the fantasy about being dominated. You imagine being picked up, hand over the mouth, whispering in the ear...whatever floats your boat. But the difference is that you control the fantasy. You end it when you want. You fantasize about exactly what will happen and what won't.

The real thing is nothing like that. You mostly think you're going to die.

R234 ever read the books my secret garden, and men in love by Nancy Friday? I read them in college and they describe rape fantasies but it is like you described with the woman or man that is fantasizing in control of everything.