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Boy Erased, "conversion" drama starring Lucas Hedges, Nicole Kidman, Russell Crowe and DL fave Cherry Jones

Thoughts?

by Anonymousreply 226Last Saturday at 8:58 AM

OP, why didn't you mention Xavier Dolan ????? It's the whole reason to see this film.

by Anonymousreply 107/17/2018

I assume homophobe Russell Crowe is on the conversion side?

by Anonymousreply 207/17/2018

Or Joel Edgerton R1, but who cares about those really, really tiny eyes?

by Anonymousreply 307/17/2018

Looks sweet and heartbreaking. Hopefully, it raises some awareness about this horrific practice.

r1 Where was Dolan in that trailer? I must have missed him.

by Anonymousreply 407/17/2018

Mmmm...

Lucas = shegets Tim o'Tay

by Anonymousreply 507/17/2018

That tagline "The truth cannot be converted" is great!

by Anonymousreply 607/17/2018

"Written and directed by Joel Edgerton" came as a surprise to me; I had no idea he was multi-talented. I hope this does well despite his lack of experience in both of those fields.

by Anonymousreply 707/17/2018

Is Joel Edgerton an Admirer of the Dong?

by Anonymousreply 807/17/2018

Edgerton wrote and directed 2015's The Gift, quite competently.

I had a bf whose father was a minister. They didn't send him to conversion therapy because he didn't come out to them until he was out of the house, but they tried awfully hard to convince him to go voluntarily.

by Anonymousreply 907/17/2018

Conversion is probably going to get red state financing and the conversion bans struck down in liberal states with the new conservative Supreme Court, so this is pretty timely.

by Anonymousreply 1007/17/2018

Watch this get all the awards, Timo Tay fans are gonna cry.

by Anonymousreply 1107/17/2018

R11 I agree. Just based on trailers alone, this looks far superior to Beautiful Boy.

by Anonymousreply 1207/17/2018

r12 Yeah , Beautiful Boy looks like a Lifetime movie tbh. This trailer actually captures some emotions, the part where he said he doesn't hate his father for some reason almost put some tears in my eyes or when they beat a boy with the Bible is brutal too. I actually look forward to watch this.

Also I didn't know Troye Sivan was in this movie too.

by Anonymousreply 1307/17/2018

[quote]Timo Tay fans are gonna cry.

This looks like a much better movie than Beautiful Boy. Not gonna cry.

by Anonymousreply 1407/17/2018

Lucas Hedges is incredibly talented. It's a shame he's not better-looking, because that's what the masses respond to first and foremost.

by Anonymousreply 1507/17/2018

I think Steve Carell is a great human, but I don't like him in most of his dramatic acting. This movie looks better. There is another gay conversion movie coming up, but this looks superior.

by Anonymousreply 1607/17/2018

[quote]There is another gay conversion movie coming up

With a lesbian, right?

by Anonymousreply 1707/17/2018

Yeah. "The Miseducation of Cameron Post" starring Chloë Grace Moretz.

by Anonymousreply 1807/17/2018

R15 A lot of great, critically acclaimed, beloved actors are not specially good looking. And again, a lot of good looking actors truly deserve the praise and following they have.

by Anonymousreply 1907/17/2018

Lucas Hedges is adorable. ISHC.

I'd love a movie that starred him and Shawn Mendes.

by Anonymousreply 2007/17/2018

I see Timothee, Saoirse and Lucas as the millennial golden trio of Hollywood. They even look like HP characters.

by Anonymousreply 2107/17/2018

I wouldn't call him a hearthrob but Lucas is better than average looking. I'm sure he has a better body than Timothee too even though we've yet to see it.

by Anonymousreply 2207/17/2018

Will this film prompt Hedges to come out during the publicity tour?

by Anonymousreply 2307/17/2018

R23 If he does he secures a nomination. Maybe finally takes his boyfriend to the Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 2407/17/2018

Lucas Hedges caught shirtless on the set of Boy Erased

by Anonymousreply 2507/17/2018

[quote]They even look like HP characters.

Like what, r21?

by Anonymousreply 2607/17/2018

r21 I wish their annoying fans didn't make me resent Chalamet so bad. But the endless threads here and he whole 'It boy', 'next Leo', etc. are so tiring. And they're all over social media.

by Anonymousreply 2707/17/2018

*his annoying fans

by Anonymousreply 2807/17/2018

R26

R27 Poor guy. Gotta be ugly for a few movies and it will quiet down.

by Anonymousreply 2907/17/2018

The scene with the chair was pretty profound as I had a similar experience back in 1994 when I had to go to reparative therapy (at least that's what it was called then) I was told by the 'leader' that I was gay because I either had a bad relationship with my father or that I was molested as a child. I knew at that moment that this was all a scam...which makes you pretty powerless you're 15. Even though I knew it was a scam they still over months sowed seeds of resentment that I held against both my parents, although I've sorted through a lot of that now. I still have major bias/issues with all religion though.

by Anonymousreply 3007/17/2018

Did Crowe have to gain weight for the role? Here he is as a gay boy in The Sum of Us.

by Anonymousreply 3107/17/2018

Nicole Kidman's look is science fiction in this trailer. Could they not have cast a fucking American woman?

by Anonymousreply 3207/17/2018

Racist ^

by Anonymousreply 3307/17/2018

Why cast an American woman when Edgerton and Crowe are Aussies?

by Anonymousreply 3407/17/2018

"Could they not have cast a fucking American woman?"

Many directors will not work with American actors due to their lack of professionalism.

For instance Australian Toni Collette is awesome as a suburban mom in "Hereditary". She creates a 3-dimensional character who is flawed, messy and totally credible.

I can't think of an American actress who could do that. They'd be too worried about lighting, hair, make-up and CGI-erased wrinkles.

by Anonymousreply 3507/17/2018

It is an amusing coincidence there are two big gay conversion movies coming out this year.

What's Lucas Hedges deal? I assume another straight guy taking the big gay roles.

Gay Actor Erased. Sums up the state of gay cinema.

by Anonymousreply 3607/17/2018

Nah, Lucas is gay but still in the closet. They also cast Troye Silvan. An openl gay singer/actor.

by Anonymousreply 3707/17/2018

Lucas Hedges was amazing in Lady Bird. The scene outside the restaurant where he breaks down, begging her not to tell people he's gay, made me cry.

by Anonymousreply 3807/17/2018

I was called back three times for the part, R32, but I told Joel to let Nickie have the part. She needs to exercise those acting muscles. Its part of our craft.

by Anonymousreply 3907/17/2018

Oscars for everyone.

by Anonymousreply 4007/17/2018

[quote]I can't think of an American actress who could do that. They'd be too worried about lighting, hair, make-up and CGI-erased wrinkles.

LMAO, you're writing this as a response to a critique of Nicole Kidman?! As if Nicole Kidman had anything natural leftover.

by Anonymousreply 4107/17/2018

Seriously, I can't believe someone said American actresses were too obsessed with how they look when we are talking someone as heavily nip/tucked as Kidman.

by Anonymousreply 4207/17/2018

Nicole Kidman was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 4307/17/2018

Converted to what, Judaism? Episcopalian?

by Anonymousreply 4407/17/2018

I wanted to see this until I saw Troye. No thanks. Can't stand the guy.

by Anonymousreply 4507/17/2018

I read the book, so I'm looking forward to this.

by Anonymousreply 4607/17/2018

So you recommend it r46? I'll probably give it a read.

by Anonymousreply 4707/17/2018

R47 Yes, I would recommend it. I have to say based on the trailer, it looks like the screenplay is only slightly based on the book.

by Anonymousreply 4807/17/2018

Lucas Hedges is the new IT boy in Hollywood. He was in Manchester by the Sea, Ladybird, Three Billboards, and now will surely get an Oscar nom for Boy Erased. Talk about an impressive resume.

Troye Sivan will get a Best Song nomination for this, so he'll soon be known as Oscar-nominated Troye Sivan.

I see that Taylor Swift's boyfriend, Joe Alwyn, is in this, too.

by Anonymousreply 4907/17/2018

Hedges is also making his Broadway debut this fall in Kenneth Lonergan's The Waverly Gallery, after having worked with Lonergan previously on Manchester by the Sea.

by Anonymousreply 5007/17/2018

Lucas Hedges has the best agent in Hollywood, because he is not good looking at all. Nor does he look like a teen. He looks 25 at minimum

by Anonymousreply 5107/17/2018

[quote]because he is not good looking at all.

But he can act. He doesn't get hired to be a pretty face, he gets hired for roles that require real acting.

by Anonymousreply 5207/17/2018

Don't let anyone tell you nobody can change gay to straight. It's possible

by Anonymousreply 5307/17/2018

Wasn't James Franco writing and directing a movie about a successful conversion to show the other side of this?

by Anonymousreply 5407/17/2018

Franco did the "I am Michael" movie about a Michael Glatze who decided to live a straight life r54, though I am not sure anyone watched it.

by Anonymousreply 5507/17/2018

R53 I can't see any reason it wouldn't be possible.

by Anonymousreply 5607/17/2018

Based on the trailer, I would give Russell Crowe's left eye an Academy Award©️ Nomination for its rapid twitching when his son says, "I think about men."

by Anonymousreply 5707/17/2018

R51: I heard exactly the same about Ben Platt, but they are actors not models and it's good from time to time that a good actor take the role instead of an insipid beauty

by Anonymousreply 5807/17/2018

Lucas is 21 r52

Maybe you’d better get your eyes checked for cataracts

by Anonymousreply 5907/17/2018

[quote]Could they not have cast a fucking American woman?

In a film about a gay man that is written, directed and acted almost exclusively by straight people? Fuck that.

by Anonymousreply 6007/17/2018

[quote]Lucas Hedges has the best agent in Hollywood, because he is not good looking at all. Nor does he look like a teen. He looks 25 at minimum

Hedges has always had a leg up thanks to his director dad. He’s certainly not a “come out of nowhere” type. He reminds me more of Jesse Plemmons than the It Boy actors closer to his age.

Not impressed by the trailer. Kinda bland and oddly unemotional. Not seeing Crowe or Kidman as Arkansan evangelicals.

by Anonymousreply 6107/17/2018

[quote]Could they not have cast a fucking American woman?

This is the weirdest complaint yet and reeks of Trump's "America First" bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 6207/17/2018

Depressing. A needed message, but no thanks.

I can't look at Crowe or Kidman without them seeming to declare, "I'm ACTing!!"

by Anonymousreply 6307/17/2018

Kidman is American. She was raised in Australia but was born in Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 6407/17/2018

[quote]Seriously, I can't believe someone said American actresses were too obsessed with how they look when we are talking someone as heavily nip/tucked as Kidman.

Of course while we are mocking Nicole’s processed appearance, we will also be mocking Russell for letting himself get old and fat...

by Anonymousreply 6507/17/2018

Get old-LOOKING I mean.

by Anonymousreply 6607/17/2018

Lucas Hedges also played gay in the mini-series "The Slap". His character attempted suicide not once, but twice (first time was only mentioned and not shown).

by Anonymousreply 6707/17/2018

I had really high hopes for the novel this film is based on. It was really disappointing. I couldn't understand the excitement. Hopefully the movie will be better. Joel Edgerton was fantastic in "The Gift" (which he wrote and directed) so this could be good.

by Anonymousreply 6807/17/2018

r61 Lucas could've had "a leg" but that doesn't take the fact that he's talented.

by Anonymousreply 6907/17/2018

The film is based on a memoir, not a novel. And he should sue for allowing that fugly actor to play him, because the author is quite hot.

by Anonymousreply 7007/17/2018

Is there nudity?

by Anonymousreply 7107/17/2018

Farting?

by Anonymousreply 7207/17/2018

Here's the real life guy that Hedges is playing in the film.

by Anonymousreply 7307/17/2018

I would like an Oscar nomination please.

by Anonymousreply 7407/17/2018

I hope there is a scene where the kid tries on Nicole's wig.

by Anonymousreply 7507/17/2018

Did Xavier butch it up for the movie ?? He looked very masc in the trailer.

by Anonymousreply 7607/17/2018

I like Lucas. He's cute.

by Anonymousreply 7707/17/2018

r76 Where is he? I didn't even recognize him.

by Anonymousreply 7807/17/2018

Is the lead played by a heterosexual?

by Anonymousreply 7907/17/2018

Lucas is cute, and a good actor. Better than Timothée.

by Anonymousreply 8007/17/2018

Crowe and Kidman? Must be another gay tragedy made by straights for straights. No gay sex or male nudity. That would shock the sexually confident heterosexuals into not buying tickets.

by Anonymousreply 8107/17/2018

Nicole has done some great work recently. I loved her in Lion and some think her work in Big Little Lies is the best she has ever done

I used to be the biggest Crowe fan but the last film I saw him in Nice Guys had him foo action scenes fat.

What is wrong with you bitches? Lucas is hot and I want to have sex with him. Timmy not so much. I loved him in CMBYN but I’m not attracted to him.

by Anonymousreply 8207/17/2018

R79 Hedges, heterosexual? Rofl

by Anonymousreply 8307/17/2018

I wasn't a big fan of The Gift. And, the trailer looks a bit iffy. Why would a straight man want to write/direct a gay conversion therapy movie anyway? I'll wait to see what the critics have to say about it.

by Anonymousreply 8407/18/2018

P.S. I also wasn't impressed with the Bohemian Rhapsody trailer. Here's hoping that both films are better than their trailers.

by Anonymousreply 8507/18/2018

Hopefully they'll make "Boy Erased II" soon, about transing.

by Anonymousreply 8607/18/2018

The Gift was bad. Effective but bad. Not sure I trust Edgerton to handle this subject matter any better, especially considering a particular scene.

by Anonymousreply 8707/18/2018

R81: If you want sex and male nudity there are a lot of porn waiting for you

by Anonymousreply 8807/18/2018

I'm aware that Lucas' father is a director and screenwriter, advantages that would diminish his record in my eyes except for the fact that he's an enormously talented young man. I've liked him in everything I've seen him in so far, and I'm looking forward to Boy Erased. It already seems to be the focus of some back-and-forth discussion on the legitimacy of conversion therapy on cultural and political forums. As for Chalamet whose name seems to come up in DL threads referencing Hedges, you realize it's not an either-or situation? Two gifted young academy award nominated performers can actually co-exist, and one can actually like them both whether you prefer Boy Erased or Beautiful Boy. Both look interesting; the results should be significant come awards season.

by Anonymousreply 8907/18/2018

They have a lot of things in common, they have a pretty solid career even at such young age, they are not gossip material (at least not mainstream gossip material) and they are not the conventional good looking main actor that Hollywood's seem to promote.

And having contacts on the industry makes things way easier but in the end you have talent (and luck) or you don't. Lucas contacts didn't earn his Oscar nomination, the same way Ben Platt's contacts didn't earn him his tony. And actors career is more a marathon than a sprint

by Anonymousreply 9007/18/2018

Good trailer. Reminds me of "Latter Days" with the Mormon boy and his family.

by Anonymousreply 9107/18/2018

A lot of gay people complain about LGBT movies made by straight people but where are the gay writers, directors, etc? Until they don't step up their game is good that we at least have some gay movies at all.

I'd much rather watch a good movie made by straights if this kind of production full of tired cliches and stereotypes is the best gays can come up with given the chance:

by Anonymousreply 9207/18/2018

Uh, to make this easy you realize last years award winning films "Call Me By Your Name" and "God's Own Country" were both written and directed by gay men don't you r92?

(Though yes, they starred straight actors)

by Anonymousreply 9307/18/2018

R92> That episode is funny though! :)

by Anonymousreply 9407/18/2018

Yes, I know. My answer was mostly directed to people like r81

by Anonymousreply 9507/18/2018

Kidman does not do warm and loving mother well.

She was fine in The Others as a child killing mother. She'd be better at playing the mother in a remake of Ordinary People.

by Anonymousreply 9607/18/2018

Kidman has made a career out of playing cold people.

by Anonymousreply 9707/18/2018

I really hope for Lucas to get in the BA category and get that fucking Oscar nod. He deserves it.

by Anonymousreply 9807/18/2018

Lucas Hedges already has an oscar nomination from "Manchester by the Sea" r98, not like the academy has ignored him.

by Anonymousreply 9907/18/2018

R99 I know, but not in the BA category.

by Anonymousreply 10007/18/2018

He has 3 movies out this year: Boy Erased, Ben is Back ( very similar to BB) and Mid ‘90s. So he’ll be all over the place this fall. The Academy better take notice.

by Anonymousreply 10107/18/2018

[quote]Lucas Hedges is incredibly talented. It's a shame he's not better-looking, because that's what the masses respond to first and foremost.

I think he looks fine. Hedges is like the new Leo DiCaprio.

by Anonymousreply 10207/18/2018

[quote]Hedges is like the new Leo DiCaprio.

Bite your tongue. Break your typing fingers.

by Anonymousreply 10307/18/2018

r103 AWW you triggered the french mouse fangirls r102

by Anonymousreply 10407/18/2018

Nobody will be the new Leo Dicaprio. There were different times back then and that era is done. He can become a good actor, though with some interesting movies on his curriculum.

by Anonymousreply 10507/18/2018

R104, I am a "French mouse fangirl," too.

by Anonymousreply 10607/18/2018

R82 Kidman has really had a renaissance the last few years. She was fantastic in Lion and I would definitely argue that Big Little Lies was the best performance of her career. Kidman channeled her relationship with Cruise for that haunting portrayal.

by Anonymousreply 10707/18/2018

r106 Yeah that's why I was saying r102 triggered you....

by Anonymousreply 10807/18/2018

French FAUN

by Anonymousreply 10907/18/2018

R93: I think God's own country is a totally different kind of film, it's not the type of movie most A list (or B list) hollywood actors were ready to do. It's way riskier than CMBYN. The author of the novel is gay, and he had a lot of trouble to make his last novel published because it's about homosexuality on soccer, and most publishers thought women won't be interested in that kind of story (the problem here was the soccer not the homosexuality). Fortunately A natural was published and received great reviews

by Anonymousreply 11007/18/2018

My friend saw an unfinished cut of this and said it's going to get a slew of nominations. He said it will dominate the acting categories.

by Anonymousreply 11107/18/2018

Interesting r111. Other test screening reports haven’t been nearly as positive and I know they did quite a few reshoots after those early screenings.

by Anonymousreply 11207/18/2018

Next gay pic for Lucas: a Jeffrey Dahmer biopic.

by Anonymousreply 11307/18/2018

No thread is complete without the self-loathing gay man. R92

No R113, we just got that last year with the much hotter Ross Lynch.

by Anonymousreply 11407/18/2018

Since when is Crowe homophobic? He's never been to my knowldge. Quite the contrary.

by Anonymousreply 11507/18/2018

So do we think we'll all rally behind this one if it does indeed get a slew of nominations? Or will there be yet another civil war over the movie not being explicit or black or whatever else enough?

Maybe we'll even get some "ex-gays" here during awards season, arguing that conversion actually works and their story isn't being represented properly. Oh, this is going to be so much fun...

by Anonymousreply 11607/18/2018

Xavier Dolan is the teeny tiny guy at 1:07 (and a couple of other quick shots), for those of you who have asked.

by Anonymousreply 11707/18/2018

r117 Thanks. He seems really short there but not so much at 1:22. Might just be the perspective. I prefer him shorter; he's adorable.

by Anonymousreply 11807/18/2018

Xavier Dolan is listed at 5'7", which means he is no more than 5'6"

by Anonymousreply 11907/18/2018

Why hasn't Dolan publicly hit on Hedges? He's the actual gay guy with whom he could end up having sex,i stead of wasting time trying to seduce straight twinks.

by Anonymousreply 12007/19/2018

[quote]Why hasn't Dolan publicly hit on Hedges?

Maybe he's gotten what he wants—what they both want—without hitting on him publicly.

by Anonymousreply 12107/20/2018

I bet Dolan seduced half of the cast.

by Anonymousreply 12207/20/2018

Really looking forward to seeing this not only because of the story (exposing the fraud that's called "conversion therapy"), but also because of Lucas Hedges. This young man seems to have made the most of his connections in the business, which would be off-putting but for the fact that he has shown genuine talent. He was excellent in both Manchester By the Sea and Ladybird, and Boy Erased would be his first actual leading role, quite a test for a young actor. It doesn't matter that your father is a screenwriter and director or how elaborate the star-maker machinery behind you is if audiences don't find your performances compelling or engaging enough to attract and hold their interest and make them want to find out more and follow your progress (i.e, see a certain "Chalamet"). Hedges seems to inspire admiration as a budding personality whose backround in the business shouldn't be held against him, or hatred as an undeserving, bland lightweight coasting on his advantages. As I am of the former point of view, I hope this will be a critical and popular success worthy of at least a best actor nomination for him.

by Anonymousreply 12308/18/2018

Nic's a bit old to be playing the mother.

by Anonymousreply 12408/18/2018

She's 51. That's not too old to be the mother of a 19 year old boy.

by Anonymousreply 12508/18/2018

Review, a thing that stood out to me.

[quote]in fact, the movie is oddly withholding when it comes to acknowledging him as a sexual being

Though it makes sense when you see this

[quote] “Boy Erased” feels like its greatest value will be to parents, particularly those with LGBT children of their own

by Anonymousreply 12609/01/2018

Why is it called “Boy Erased”? Conversion therapy doesn’t change your biological sex. They should have named it “Love Erased”, or something like that.

The boy isn’t being erased, his sexuality is.

by Anonymousreply 12709/01/2018

Depressing heavy 'message' cinema for the straights. Pass.

by Anonymousreply 12809/01/2018

Well that is the name of Garrard Conley's memoir r127, so take it up with him.

by Anonymousreply 12909/01/2018

"not completely straight but also not gay and not necessarily bisexual"

Gurl, please, you're gay as a picnic basket.

by Anonymousreply 13009/05/2018

That's cool that he even talked about it at all. He sounds like an unsure young man, so maybe in a couple of years he'll feel comfortable definitively stating his sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 13109/05/2018

What R131 said. I like him.

by Anonymousreply 13209/05/2018

Hedges envies people who can speak about such things with more certainty.“People expect you as an actor to have a voice that’s set in some way, and that’s really not what I am,” he says. “I’m very much within the conflict and confusion of my own life, still, and I definitely feel a pressure to step up in a way. I prefer to step up in my art, and I don’t entirely know how to in my life.”

That's fair. I try really hard to see where people are coming from but I still sometimes find it hard to accept people in their twenties and older not knowing where their sexuality lies . Maybe they aren't ready to tell others but by now I would think he knows that he's gay or bi. He knows what gets him hard.

by Anonymousreply 13309/05/2018

He knows he’s gay. C’mon, guys. It’s crystal clear. But he played the “ fluid” card. Good for him otherwise no more projects and I want him to succeed.

by Anonymousreply 13409/05/2018

It sounds more like he is pretty much straight but playing up his queerness because he is starring in a Oscar bait gay movie...

I mean his quote is basically claiming he falls way closer to the straight side.

by Anonymousreply 13509/05/2018

R135 And I’m Maria Theresa. He was really sly, I give him that. But, you don’t have to be a genius to see he’s more rainbow than ever. Anyway....Personally I’m more interested in seeing him in Ben is Back than BE.

by Anonymousreply 13609/05/2018

Just saying, his "not 100.0% straight but definitely NOT gay or bisexual so you better not call me that" isn't a bust out the champagne moment for me. But to each his own.

I think he is most turned on by possible award love right now.

by Anonymousreply 13709/05/2018

Exactly. He has 3 movies out this year. The nomination is on its way. Is there a thread for Ben is Back?

by Anonymousreply 13809/05/2018

I thought he came across as very honest in the interview, not playing games. It sounds like he might be bi discordant, with his romantic attractions predominately directed towards men and his base sexual attraction towards women.

by Anonymousreply 13909/05/2018

What I got from the previous review, in case you didn't read it-

[quote] (Hedges') Charlie Brown-like face

[quote] (Taylor Swift's boyfriend's part in the film) Its lone sex scene features a horrific encounter with a college crush (Joe Alwyn), who brutally rapes Jared....

by Anonymousreply 14009/05/2018

The way I see it, he's a gay guy who doesn't want to burn bridges by admitting he's gay, so he leaves all options open and emphasises his heterosexual attractions because his agent might advise him to beard in the future.

At least he hasn't said he's straight. Not that anyone at all would believe THAT.

by Anonymousreply 14109/05/2018

A round of applause for R141. Finally someone who gets it.

by Anonymousreply 14209/05/2018

He grew up in the industry with his director dad, so he’s more savvy than he plays with his “unsure” kid schtick.

The Boy Erased reviews are pretty lukewarm though, with Kidman and Crowe getting more notice than Hedges (I think the Variety review gave him all of one sentence) so a nomination is seeming less and less likely.

by Anonymousreply 14309/05/2018

I think he has a better shot with Ben is Back than Boy Erased. Those clips from the trailer were really good. And the Supporting category this is year is the....void.

by Anonymousreply 14409/05/2018

I’d say Supporting is pretty tight r144. Chalamet and Elliot are topping most of the early surveys with Richard E Grant third, and guys like Daniel Kaluya, Kyle Chandler, Michael B Jordan, Adam Driver and even Sam Rockwell in the mix.

by Anonymousreply 14509/05/2018

R135 and R137 Exactly. It reeks of cutting the noose before someone hangs him a la ; "Cis straight white actor steals queer role!" Now all the SJW's can celebrate his part and not drag him, because he 'exists' on the spectrum. Never mind he is saying never call him gay, or even bisexual. YAWN. And if it is like R141, then thats kind of worse to me. Just dont say anything. Dont shit on gay people until you are ready to be completely upfront. Encourages fluidity, change in orientation etc is NEGATIVE to us, even more so when you are starring in a conversion therapy movie.

by Anonymousreply 14609/05/2018

[quote]The Boy Erased reviews are pretty lukewarm though

Yeah, early reviews make it seem this isn't a powerhouse movie. More of a well made TV movie.

by Anonymousreply 14709/05/2018

Wake me when Lucas actually comes out as something

by Anonymousreply 14809/05/2018

My "Spectrum" is either dicks or butts, or both.

by Anonymousreply 14909/05/2018

R145 Well, not really. I agree with the names you mentioned, but if a guy under 25 must get in the battle, in this case, is between Lucas and Chalamet. The Academy won’t nominate two twinks for basically the same role: drug addict or ex drug addict. In the BIB tralier he was really good, seriously.

by Anonymousreply 15009/06/2018

too bad kidman and crowe are in it

I avoid anything them to skunts are in.

by Anonymousreply 15109/06/2018

[quote]What's Lucas Hedges deal? I assume another straight guy taking the big gay roles.

[quote]Gay Actor Erased. Sums up the state of gay cinema.

Don’t YOU feel like an idiot now...

by Anonymousreply 15209/06/2018

I think he’ll be a double nominee, joining that very select club of actors.

by Anonymousreply 15309/06/2018

R147 - the trailer seemed Hallmark'ish, if Hallmark did the gays.

by Anonymousreply 15409/06/2018

Would the PR shill for Ben Is Back go ahead and post the damn trailer already!

by Anonymousreply 15509/07/2018

Here it is the BIB trailer, and I’m no PR lmao.

by Anonymousreply 15609/07/2018

Yikes, at first I thought the father was being played by John Goodman before I realized it was Russell Crowe.

by Anonymousreply 15709/07/2018

So, any opinions about BIB?

by Anonymousreply 15809/07/2018

Troy Sivan promotes "Boy Erased"

by Anonymousreply 15909/07/2018

I like his new album A LOT! But, I loathe his incessant praise of Swift.

by Anonymousreply 16009/07/2018

[quote]Boy Erased is haunting and brilliantly cast, but something is missing

by Anonymousreply 16109/08/2018

I have to go bathe after I see troye s on a talk show

he looks.....icky

by Anonymousreply 16209/09/2018

Lucas Hedges: I’m not gay, bi or straight…I just don’t believe in labels!

by Anonymousreply 16309/09/2018

So will we be seeing him dating a guy soon?

by Anonymousreply 16409/09/2018

Boy Erased and Ben is Back is playing the Hampton Film Festival

by Anonymousreply 16509/13/2018

R151 “them to skunts”? Are you really that stupid (I suspect that you are) or was this a brilliant attempt at satire (I suspect not)?

by Anonymousreply 16609/16/2018

This movie is surprisingly funny.

by Anonymousreply 16709/17/2018

"It feels like a relief for me to put words to something that is complex and feels like it honors my own experience": Lucas Hedges on finally voicing his sexual orientation

by Anonymousreply 16810/01/2018

I'd love to see it

by Anonymousreply 16910/01/2018

Lucas Hedges, Boy Wonder

by Anonymousreply 17010/01/2018

adorable

by Anonymousreply 17110/02/2018

Erased director Joel Edgerton praised Lucas for the interview: ". I’m very proud of how he handled that interview and how he’s been embraced for that."

Of course he is proud, Hedges nonsensical admission means he can't get attacked for having a straight lead.

by Anonymousreply 17210/02/2018

you mean he can't be attacked for having a straight-ish lead.

by Anonymousreply 17310/02/2018

he's straighter than I am

by Anonymousreply 17410/02/2018

R164 in your dreams — if he wants a solid acting career

by Anonymousreply 17510/02/2018

Any word on how he's doing on Broadway?

by Anonymousreply 17610/02/2018

ugly and an insufferable queer twat. Wont be seeing this shit.

by Anonymousreply 17710/02/2018

looks like fun

by Anonymousreply 17810/02/2018

The movie felt too mild to me. Edgerton wants to be even handed and depict the parents and counsellors as misguided people doing what they think is the right thing, rather than villains... but then the film doesn’t have much bite.

I was expecting the conversion therapy to be much harsher than it was. It’s wrongheaded and ridiculous, and the experience would still be upsetting to a young gay person, but he isn’t locked up at night, he’s not really treated badly (within the context), he isn’t given shock treatments or anything like that... i expected something scarier, though maybe I’m too far removed from a kid’s perspective.

Lucas is good in it, though the movie kind of downplays the character’s sexuality. If he gets any Oscar recognition it will be for Ben Is Back, it’s a showier role. Russell looks godawful, though in his defence he’s trying to look like the real dad.

by Anonymousreply 17910/12/2018

Is this the kid in Manchester by the Sea? I hated that kid.

by Anonymousreply 18010/12/2018

Why the quotes?

Manchester By The Sea sucked.

by Anonymousreply 18110/12/2018

R179

[quote] but he isn’t locked up at night, he’s not really treated badly (within the context), he isn’t given shock treatments or anything like that...

It's not Schindler's List.....Jeez. Don't you think this portrayal makes it look more realistic??

by Anonymousreply 18210/12/2018

[quote]It's not Schindler's List.....Jeez. Don't you think this portrayal makes it look more realistic??

Not saying the movie didn’t depict his experience accurately. I just expected it would be worse.

by Anonymousreply 18310/12/2018

[Quote]Lucas is good in it, though the movie kind of downplays the character’s sexuality

A lot of reviewers have noted that which dissapoints me. Let's make a movie all about gay sexuality without any gay sexuality!

"Gay Erased"

by Anonymousreply 18410/12/2018

The only sexuality this movie has is the typical "gay are perverts" sexuality portrayal.

by Anonymousreply 18510/12/2018

Is this when I point out it was written and directed by a straight guy?

by Anonymousreply 18610/12/2018

Maybe they should rename the movie "Gay Erased"

by Anonymousreply 18710/12/2018

Is this the best gay movie for this year?

by Anonymousreply 18810/19/2018

Just went to screening for SAG Nominating Committee. Nicole Kidman did a Q&A afterward.

I thought it was a well acted but rudimentary film better suited for the small screen. Hedges is great, Crowe is very good and Kidman is extremely touching as the mother. Kidman claimed afterward she’d never heard of gay conversion therapy before reading the book upon which the script is based. I found that to be a tad unbelievable.

SPOILER QUESTION:

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In the last ten minutes of the film Jared walks into a party and in the kitchen seems to be embracing someone who looks a lot like Henry, the classmate who raped him in college. And shortly thereafter we see a framed photo of Jared with someone who looks an awful lot like Henry. WTF?

by Anonymousreply 18910/20/2018

It wasn’t Henry.

by Anonymousreply 19010/30/2018

I came here to post the same (R67), obviously someone has decided that he can do 'vulnerable closeted gay teen having a crisis' really well. I didn't know he played something similar in Ladybird.

by Anonymousreply 19110/30/2018

I've often said Luke Hedges was the REAL star of Lady Bird.......But the Timothee Twink Lovers prefer Timothee, no matter how hideous his acting is...

by Anonymousreply 19210/30/2018

If anyone is interested in a really good portrayal of the inner turmoil of closeted gay teenagers then American Crime series 2 is very good. Unfortunately the main plot revolves around the rape of one of them so it is pretty dark, but both young actors are very good. Unlike in some dramas they are not santised - they're messy and lonely and scared, but also sexual and angry and experimenting, but most of all they feel very real as characters. I read a review that said that 'Boy Erased' had something missing - maybe it's that messiness and complexity?

The main actor, Connor Jessup is very very good, everything about the way he speaks conveys what he's not saying, the pressure to keep everything inside. Felicity Huffman is also great as a headmistress trying to protect the reputation of her private school.

by Anonymousreply 19310/30/2018

[quote]Timothee Twink Lovers prefer Timothee, no matter how hideous his acting is...

IOW, dee-fucking-lightful.

by Anonymousreply 19410/30/2018

i find the love for Timothee disturbing considering how young he looks.

by Anonymousreply 19510/30/2018

Hedges is the son of writer director Peter Hedges (“what’s eating Gilbert grape “)-hmmm wonder how he got his start -I have no desire to see this movie with ridiculous Nicole Kidman staggering around as a stupid Southern stereotype with hair in rollers and botched Aussie -southern accent -

by Anonymousreply 19610/30/2018

Oh, shut up, r195.

by Anonymousreply 19710/30/2018

lousy casting

no way

will I go

by Anonymousreply 19810/31/2018

Another one I can't wait to not watch.

by Anonymousreply 19910/31/2018

R135 ----I have a theory about Timothee Chalemet and why so many gay guys "love" him----and it sounds like you might have stumbled on it.......Wait and see---as soon as Timothee doesn't look 15 he won't be a DL Fave anymore....He has no acting range---unless you count his blatant attempt to fool straight people into believing he likes girls.

by Anonymousreply 20010/31/2018

R200 But honestly, it's hard to not like him as an actor if you see this devastating performance.

by Anonymousreply 20110/31/2018

There often seems to be a certain blankness to his features too 200, especially in the photo you posted. It partly comes with having pupils that seem to be sitting too high in his eyes, possibly the 'heavy-lidded' look. It ends up looking sleepy and passive, which again fits the image that we're describing.

by Anonymousreply 20210/31/2018

R201 No thanks. I like MEN----not bottom feminine male models crying because they desperately want an Oscar. At least Lucas Hedges can act.. And if Steve Carell didn't win an Oscar for Foxcatcher (which he should have)---he sure isn't getting one here.

by Anonymousreply 20310/31/2018

[quote].He has no acting range---unless you count his blatant attempt to fool straight people into believing he likes girls.

In your opinion. He was excellent in a very boring movie CMBMN and has the range of every other 22-year-old in the business. He’s only done 10 movies and been in a lead role in less than half. It’s a little too soon to be talking about range. And I’m not a huge fan.

by Anonymousreply 20411/01/2018

It's mostly women who are into Chalamet even on DL, not gay guys R200

by Anonymousreply 20511/01/2018

Isn’t Lucas wonderful?

by Anonymousreply 20611/01/2018

Lucas tries to describe his sexuality

by Anonymousreply 20711/01/2018

What a tired little queen Lucas turned out to be.

by Anonymousreply 20811/01/2018

Has he had a nude scene yet?

by Anonymousreply 20911/01/2018

When is it showing…hurry up!

by Anonymousreply 21011/04/2018

R210 It's playing in limited release now.

Focus Features is promoting the hell out of this on Facebook. They even had a panel on LGBTQ+ Films & Filmmakers.

If it comes to a theater near me, then I'll see it. I try to support black and LBGTQ+ films in the theater, even though I detest going to them--movie theaters, that is.

by Anonymousreply 21111/09/2018

Did anyone go to see this? I saw it yesterday and was very disappointed. I thought that (surprisingly) Russell Crowe was the best actor, by far, in the movie, which I really wasn't expecting after hearing about this kid for months.

by Anonymousreply 21211/10/2018

The trailer makes it look like a gay movie made for straight audiences.

by Anonymousreply 21311/10/2018

Because it is.

by Anonymousreply 21411/10/2018

So basically most gay movies R213

by Anonymousreply 21511/10/2018

Most gay movies with mainstream stars and Oscar aspirations unforuntately.

But not all and as someone in the LGBT community, I don't really want to sit through a couple of hours of straight people patting themselves on the back about how down they are with "the gays."

I just saw the Freddie Mercury movie and although I appreciate Rami Malek's performance, and I loved seeing "Jamie" from the UK Shameless play a sexy cater waiter. I didn't really appreciate the whole "straight Freddie good/gay Freddie bad" message from the straight bandmates who authorized the movie.

If anyone remembers the movie Jeffrey, where they had that funny little opening about how straight audiences reacted to gay men kissing? The implication was that straight women would think it was adorable and straight men would be disgusted. Except in our audience, all the straight people were disgusted.

While watching Bohemian Rhapsody, nobody reacted to men kissing. It was normal to the audience.

Time for Hollywood to catch the fuck up with audiences at the very least.

by Anonymousreply 21611/10/2018

It starts this Thursday at my local multiplex. I think Lucas Hedges is absolutely dreamy!

by Anonymousreply 21711/11/2018

R207: Try is the best way to describe it. It was better than the first time but frankly if you don't want to be clear (labels and all that) it's better to think a lot about what you want to say because if not it ends in a nonsense (Jack Falahee knows a lot about that, nobody came out as straight in a most complicated way)

by Anonymousreply 21811/11/2018

I just saw the movie tonight and was surprised that it was rated R. As others stated it is very much a gay movie made for straights, but by far the most important message it is portraying is the harm that conversion therapy does to young people, so it would have been important to allow an audience of PG13 and above to see it.

I thought when I got my ticket that perhaps there would be a somewhat explicit sex scene, but as others have stated it is pretty much sexless. There is a rape scene, but it is neither that violent nor explicit. The movie Speak from 2004 was about rape and what was shown was comparable and only had a PG13 rating. According to IMDB there are four “Fucks” in it, which I know from reading about The Hate You Give, is three to many to get a PG13 rating, though THUG did lobby successfully to get two “Fucks” and keep its PG13 status. If that was the reason for the R, I wish they would have reduced them to reach a larger audience.

According to IMDB it is certified for ages 11 in Sweden, 12 in Germany, 14A in Canada, 15 in UK and MA 15 in Australia. All more reasonable that R here in the USA. I looked to see what this years other gay conversion therapy film, The Miseducation of Cameron Post, was rated, and it looks like they chose not to as it is listed as NR. Was that a choice because it too was given an R and they wanted it to reach young people so they skipped it? Is that what hurt it’s chances at the box office, as I understand it many chains won’t show an unrated movie. Is it partly because of homophobia that these films have an R rating, the gay content automatically pushing it into an R category?

With Lucas Hedges and Troye Sivan it has the potential to pull in young gay teens who this movie could impact in a positive way, much the way Love, Simon, a PG13 movie, did earlier this year. What gives?

by Anonymousreply 21911/18/2018

R35 seems you're talking out of your ass and grasping at straws. You provided no reason/example as to why or how American actresses are unprofessional, which is a generalization. Vera Fermiga could've done Toni Collette's part. She can get down and dirty. As others have pointed out, Nicole Kidman is high-maintenance.

The reason why Kidman was hired was because Joel Edgerton (an Aussie) wrote, directed and produced the film. The Aussies look out for each other, as Cate Blanchett once said, since they seem to be a minority in Hollywood, when compared to the Brits and Canadians. When Blanchett won she even mentioned in her speech about Hollywood needing to hire more Aussie talent as if it's the US film industry's responsibility.

by Anonymousreply 22011/18/2018

R219 here, just confirmed with the article below that Miseducation of Cameron Post avoided MPAA ratings to be able to reach queer youth without being censored for content. There’s mention that the film Because I’m a Cheerleader originally got a NC17 rating despite no nudity and less sexual content then American Pie the same year. They edited down to get a R rating, but again it sounds like homophobia was part of the issue. They concede that there might be problems getting it into theaters, but felt the risk was worth it. Really makes me wish Boy Erased had lobbied hard for PG13, if THUG could have done it this year maybe they could have too.

by Anonymousreply 22111/18/2018

Lucas got a nomination for best actor in drama on the golden globes

by Anonymousreply 22212/06/2018

I was snowed in last March and spent the weekend watching Oscar nominated films and then the telecast. I didn't realize this guy was in both 'ladybird' and '3 billboards'until I was halfway through the second film. Furthermore, later that week when I was headed back east I swear I saw him at the SF airport. I looked at him with what must have been a 'hey aren't you that guy' look on my face because he made eye contact, smiled and nodded. My traveling partner said to me 'hey, isn't that the guy from ladybird?'. I don't know for sure but that's my brush with greatness.

by Anonymousreply 22312/06/2018

R223, you blew your chance. You could have fucked an Oscar nominee in the airport bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 22412/06/2018

I saw the film a couple of days ago, and even though the film is understated, it was still discomforting, which was probably the intention. The film suggests that the "therapy" gets worse as the process continues, but the film only shows the initial stages of the conversion process, which was more than enough to show its true nature. If the film had gone over the top, it would be less believable, which would defeat its intentions. Instead, it leaves that to the viewer's imagination.

Hedges, Kidman and Crowe were all believable in their roles. Kidman was much more real than I expected. The movie is overall well done.

by Anonymousreply 22512/06/2018

The brief scene with Cherry Jones gets me. The one person that tries to talk at least some sense to the guy.

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