Someone is gay-stalking an annoying straight colleague
So it's known where I work that I'm gay. People I work with think I may be gay-stalking a really annoying straight guy in another department we interact with at times.
Now, it's like if someone murdered Trump. They would have to round up SEVERAL MILLION suspects. This guy is an asshole and very unpopular. But lately someone has been bombarding him with gay literature and so on, at his work address, in his e-mail, on his car (he has a monthy spot in a nearby garage where lots of people we work with also have a regular reservation). But according to him, it's only going to his work address and work e-mail.
It's stuff like gay travel lit that you might see at a tourist stand on 42nd Street, so you know, has a rainbow on the cover and a hot guy, and inside is visitor advice for the gays.
No one has come out and said it, but it's clear some people think it's me. I'm worried that I might be perceived as harassing a colleague. It's not me. So far I've been acting all innocent (becasue I am all innocent, FFS) but it also has me in that weird zone where I feel guilty for something people think I've done, even though I haven't.
The gay harassment is really pissing him off and I'd love to enjoy it (I hate him) but the suspicions about me are making me a nervous wreck. Not sure how to play it. What would you do, DL?
by Anonymous | reply 54 | February 26, 2020 11:41 PM
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I've been where you are OP. It absolutely sucks. Hot guy I used to work with started getting harassed on social media by some guy who wanted pics of him or something and everyone thought it was me because I was out.
I would talk to him personally about it and tell him its not you and it sucks this is happening to him. But not much more you can do. It's a shitty situation
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 13, 2018 3:21 PM
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[quote] I've been where you are OP. It absolutely sucks. Hot guy I used to work with started getting harassed on social media by some guy who wanted pics of him or something and everyone thought it was me because I was out.
One of the perils of being out at work.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 13, 2018 3:25 PM
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Maybe he's doing it to himself?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 13, 2018 3:26 PM
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R4 It's not "hating gays" to not support harassment. I actually tend be more critical to straight guys who do this shit to women
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 13, 2018 3:28 PM
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Ok, I hate to admit this, but I'm not as good a person as you are, R5. If this weren't having consequences for me, I would fully endorse harassing this guy. He's abominable.
Actually I don't know for 100% certain that people think it's me. It might all be paranoia on my part. But I'm pretty sure, when someone from his department is in my office and closes my door and tells me about the latest gay mag or whatever he got in the mail and then looks at me closely for my reaction. (Which happened yesterday, and the woman who did it is someone I like and respect.)
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 13, 2018 3:34 PM
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It's you, though, isn't it OP? C'mon ... you can tell your DL friends.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 13, 2018 3:34 PM
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Speak out about how you're insulted by it because sending this stuff implies there's something wrong with being gay. So obviously the one sending it is homophobic.
Then go in the bathroom and laugh your ass off.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 13, 2018 3:36 PM
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[quote]But lately someone has been bombarding him with gay literature and so on, at his work address, in his e-mail, on his car (he has a monthy spot in a nearby garage where lots of people we work with also have a regular reservation). But according to him, it's only going to his work address and work e-mail.
If, as you say, according to him, it's only going to his work address and work e-mail, then how do you know it goes beyond that?
I also think it's you.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 13, 2018 3:37 PM
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Also, based on R6, I'd say that you shoudn't trust your colleagues as far as you can throw them.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 13, 2018 3:43 PM
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Oops didn't read your comment OP
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 13, 2018 3:43 PM
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Shit on his desk. That builds distance between you and the gay stalker.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 13, 2018 3:46 PM
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Or do this:
"Someone in the office is sending this guy gay magazines apparantly, do you know who it is because it's a little bit much at this point, EVEN FOR ME. "
And just bring it up and play the gay card and take a self depreciating hit and then the rest of the office will figure it out for you.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 13, 2018 3:51 PM
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That's good advice, r1. I'll consider it!
[quote]If, as you say, according to him, it's only going to his work address and work e-mail, then how do you know it goes beyond that?
What?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 13, 2018 3:52 PM
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If you're buddy-buddy with anyone in management then mention it to them.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 13, 2018 3:53 PM
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And the reason why people are being "weird" when conversing with you is because the "target" is the one who has suggested that it may be you who is doing it--he knows he treats you like shit, so you're the first person that he thinks of--or it's just the gay thing.
I wouldn't talk to him. I would talk to someone else and let it get to him via word of mouth because if you say it to him he's not going to trust you; you need to say it to someone that he thinks that you trust.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 13, 2018 3:55 PM
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Find another job, op. I know that’s annoying but are you being isolated from the team?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 13, 2018 3:59 PM
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Don't quit your job over this nonsense.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 13, 2018 4:00 PM
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Maybe someone in the office hates you both and is trying to kill two birds with one stone.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 13, 2018 4:00 PM
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How generic and obvious are these publications, OP?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 13, 2018 4:01 PM
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If op gets freezes out, that’s no place to work.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 13, 2018 4:02 PM
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To send that kind of literature to a straight guy smacks of homophobia. Why would they suspect you? Am I missing something?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 13, 2018 4:04 PM
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[quote]Maybe someone in the office hates you both and is trying to kill two birds with one stone.
What I was thinking too. Trying to get him fired or make it so unbareable, he quits.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 13, 2018 4:04 PM
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A guy is doing it for sure. Not a chick.
This seems man-ish.
This seems.... like something a turd in I.T. would do. Something they can do from their computer in the office--they have access to all of his work addresses, know all of the areas... I guess anyone could do it now, but it seems like a bitter homophobic IT nerd would be the culprit.
Is this guy an asshole to anyone in the IT dept?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 13, 2018 4:07 PM
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It will also be a person who is used to using the company's shipping addresses in order to receive packages if they aren't thinking twice about doing it.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 13, 2018 4:09 PM
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Go to HR. Indicate that you are appalled someone would do this to your co-worker, Ask how they are going to put an end to it. Telling them that you are also concerned that as a out and proud gay man that you feel harassed yourself as if you were he cause, Perhaps sensitivity training is needed
by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 13, 2018 4:10 PM
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Best defense.
If you really aren't the one doing it, you need to go on offense or YOU will be the one who suffers because the company will "take action" to prevent the other guy from making claims against them. They will punish YOU to protect themselves.
What you need to do first is go to HR and say that YOU feel threatened by what's happening to the other guy and YOU feel harassed because people are making comments about your being gay.
But, it's a tough call and could backfire. Just remember that the #1 priority for the company and all the managers and executives is to protect the company (and their jobs). If they need to throw you under the bus, they will in a heartbeat.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 13, 2018 4:11 PM
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I think going through a senior level contact and going to HR after they suggest it would be better because you explained the situation to a hopefully trusted party and then only went to HR after they suggested it which displaces accountability to the senior member and makes you look less suspect.... possibly?
Do you KNOW anyone in the H/R or accounting (pseudo h/r) departments?
Actually, do you KNOW anyone at work or do you just work with them. Because if it's the latter case you're basically just going to have to go to HR.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 13, 2018 4:17 PM
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I think it’s over, op. Indeed.com is the best job search.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 13, 2018 4:44 PM
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You don't need to quit your job over this, and honestly, if this is his straight female coworker, please stop saying "gay stalking".
It's just STALKING.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 13, 2018 4:48 PM
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I think OP uses the term gay stalking because the magazines and stuff sent to him are gay themed. Not because a gay person could be doing it. After all OP doesn't know who is doing it
by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 13, 2018 4:57 PM
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Why are they sending the straight guy gay publications? Is he a closet case?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | July 13, 2018 5:08 PM
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Agree with R29 and R30. Other than going to HR and tell them that you feel harassed by the situation, don't do anything phony or conspicuous. Even though any idiot can see this is the work of a homophobe, acting out of character is going to make you look guilty.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | July 13, 2018 5:32 PM
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Op if your colleague was feeling harassed by these emails then he would’ve gone to HR himself no doubt. So is there already an ongoing internal investigation by HR? If you didn’t have anything to do with this. Then you need to talk with HR if even a single co-worker has spoken to you mading any accusatory remarks about you being the culprit. It’s your best defense if you’re innocent and it will save your job because you too would be seen as a victim. But you being so obviously nervous about the situation is the reason you appear guilty by your co-workers.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 13, 2018 5:51 PM
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It must be someone north of 60 if they are sending magazine subscriptions
by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 13, 2018 5:52 PM
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[quote]he knows he treats you like shit,
He doesn't exactly treat me like shit, it's more that he's a complete asshole. And he does it to everyone.
[quote]To send that kind of literature to a straight guy smacks of homophobia. Why would they suspect you? Am I missing something?
You and I know that it's homophobia, but most straight people are completely clueless as to that fact.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 13, 2018 5:54 PM
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Never mind guys, I figured it out. It was me but just one of my other personalities. Thnx for the support!
by Anonymous | reply 40 | July 13, 2018 9:10 PM
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r39, I am straight and said that it is homophobic. Teenage boys might not realize it's homophobia, but straight people do. I agree with the others that you should go to HR and report it as harassment. It is not ok in any universe for people to be doing that, regardless of your sexual orientation. I can't believe your work "friends" insinuate that you are responsible. It sounds like a really fucked up workplace.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | July 13, 2018 9:17 PM
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You explain to the victim and HR and anybody else listening that since you're out, you don't need to sneak around playing secret crush like an 8th grader. This is an activity that closet cases participate in.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 13, 2018 9:25 PM
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Can we get an update, OP? Did they ever catch “some Puerto Rican guy” who was responsible?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 43 | November 30, 2019 3:08 PM
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I think you need to get Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys on the case, especially the really hot Hardy Boy...
by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 30, 2019 3:16 PM
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[quote] It must be someone north of 60 if they are sending magazine subscriptions
Magazines and printed travel literature is SO much more effective as harassment than emails since physical mail may be distributed by office support staff.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | November 30, 2019 3:23 PM
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He’s getting to many International Male catalogs?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | November 30, 2019 3:44 PM
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Maybe all you bitches should try getting a little WORK done around here as opposed to getting caught up in all your dreary little soap operas.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 30, 2019 4:04 PM
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It’s a coworker who is watching him receive these deliveries and watching his reactions.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 30, 2019 4:05 PM
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I still think OP doth protest too much.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 26, 2020 11:04 PM
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Oh goody, another corporate office filled with stupidity and nonsense and bullshit.
Greatest economy in world history. Yay.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | February 26, 2020 11:09 PM
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This happened to me in high school. A guy I went to school with there was the culprit. They used his handwriting to determine he was filling out the subscription card (remember those?). He got arrested and had to do community service. We were 16. Funny thing was, even though we didn't interact much, I thought he had the hottest ass and I wanted to fuck him so bad.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | February 26, 2020 11:23 PM
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It was the least he could have done, after all that nonsense, r51.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | February 26, 2020 11:25 PM
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“Ladies! Listen! I am not the culprit. As a gay man, I have stalked and seduced many a supposed straight man, and that is NOT how we do it!”
by Anonymous | reply 53 | February 26, 2020 11:39 PM
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He probably liked me and I didn't realize it, R52. He was handsome but definitely off kilter socially, which is probably why I instinctively avoided him. I'm having flashbacks. All kinds of magazines and catalogs, not all gay. But I got the Advocate and copies of International Male - that's how I found out about that catalog. And Playgirl. I could tell my mom liked looking at the men in IM and Playgirl. His ass was round and stuck out, but he had a stocky fireplug build. That ass.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | February 26, 2020 11:41 PM
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