Johnny Depp is Suicidal

his alcoholism has reached the point of brain atrophy. they essentially get dementia at this stage.

it's also why he looks so bad. it effects the digestive system the same way--shriveling it up, making it not function correctly. even if he does eat, nutrients and vitamins will not be absorbed.

Sad.

He needs rehab.

I absolutely do not care whether this man lives or dies.

R1 Brain atrophy? Dementia? That is so scary! Just totally fucking fucked up. And yes, he did this to himself. He's a father for fuck's sake.

RDJ should be his intervention.

On a bright note, at least we won’t have to endure anymore of those Pirate movies.

Can you imagine the messy squabbling over his estate that would ensue if he does go through with it? It would be even worse than Michael Jackson's. He is surrounded by countless leeches and hangers-on, including his own sister. Life would become a living hell for Johnny's two kids with everybody wanting something from them.

I know being a father doesn't suddenly break the spell of addiction and self-destruction. But it can guide the process along a bit, right? Eye on the prize? Or no?

He'll do it because his idol Hunter S. Thompson did it.

R2, it may be too late for rehab. His body may be too far gone, quitting drinking may not be enough to restore his physical or mental health.

If he dies young, or middle-aged, there will be nobody to blame but Johnny Depp.

R7 "Life would become a living hell for Johnny's two kids" I think having him as a dad pretty much guarantees that their lives are, in fact, a living hell, right this second.

Good point, R7, because if he's made a will any time within the last few decades, it can be challenged on the grounds that he wasn't competent when he signed it!

Bye, Johnny! Don't let us keep you from your destiny. Say hello to Mark Salling when you see him in hell.

In other words, kill yourself or get off the pot, dear.

R9 You might be on to something. He probably thinks it's glamorous, or noble, for him to off himself. Hunter did it!

He should be forced into rehab and bankruptcy so all his stupid purchases can be sold and he might stay alive. I don’t think he’s competent to decide anything now. But I’m pretty sure the judge can see this.

Who will be shooting JD's ashes out of what device?

He did it to himself

Damn, can't we here on DL take any credit....so many threads, all for nought?

Marilyn Manson will display Johnny's skeleton in his home, in the same room where his chandelier made from the bones of a 4-year-old Chinese girl hangs.

That, or he'll have Johnny's ashes compressed into a buttplug.

R16 Howzabout a miniature cave-submarine made out of rocket parts? Could be cool, huh? Right?

yes, brain atrophy. there is a very good documentary which used to be on amazonPrime done by two daughters whose mother died from 30 years of alcoholism. i watchec this when it became clear to me that my mother was suffering from the same thing.

essentially, he has done what she did--self medicate mental health issues with drug and drink. now, her mood issues are caused by the brain atrophy.

it ruins women faster and harder than men. he has been doing this, what? 25-30 years?

R1 so you mean to tell us his brain and internal organs have been marinating in wine for so long that they're pickled? And why does that make my mouth water?

more reading:

"And why does that make my mouth water?"

I don't know, Dr. Lecter.

R20 That looks like a fascinating but painful and troubling watch. I'm so sorry your mother is/was an alcoholic. Just a bummer all around. Almost impossible to fathom the control that alcohol can have over some people. It becomes their entire reason for living, instead of a mere accent.

My biological dad was an alcoholic. He bailed when I was three, and the couple subsequent times I saw him growing up, as a teenager, he was utterly wasted and profoundly inappropriate. He did manage to quit drinking about ten years ago, but it's too late to form any kind of meaningful bond with him. Mistakes were made.

He raised two other daughters, one of whom has told me that growing up, she was mortally embarrassed of him, to say the least. It wasn't a fun scene.

wet brain

I dreamed a few nights ago I was with Johnny Depp. He had one of those long 1968-1972 style US automobiles he was living out of, and it stunk of stale sweat and cigarettes and spilled spirit. He was mumbling as he drove. I was talking at him not understanding what he was saying only in the echoes of my mi-i-i-ind. I tried to tell him I sat behind him in the Kitsilano High School cafeteria in an episode of "21 Jump Street" (true!) and he barely took any notice.

I believe David Cassidy had the "dementia"

I don't understand the callous cruelty here.

I've known a few alcoholics (friend's parents) who drank like fish every day and are in their 70's doing ok. Then, I've known a few neighbors growing up who died very young after drinking ravaged them.

So sad that Depp is heading down this road. I hope he gets help. He was such a gorgeous man and would have likely aged beautifully had he laid off the sauce.

It's FRIVOLOUS cruelty, bitch.

It's POINTLESS cruelty

r24, thank you for your expressions of concern.

not to make this thread about me, but the sad thing about my mother's case is that she took up the alcohol after kicking a 15yr meth addiction(not crystal, which is worse). the straight and sober days of her adult life probably add up to less than 2 years.

and yes-- he needs to toss everyone out of his life except a good lawyer, doctor/nutritionist and a bodyguard and go off somewhere and just be away from it. and never go back. go live on that island he owns. drop all friends. disallow all substances or users from even hitting land.

even family

Dear lord if he offs himself, all his crazy shenanigans will be forgotten and he will be lauded as the coolest dude in the world even of he hasnt been anywhere near cool for the past 20 years so I hope not

I was gonna say, man he's so rich he has tons of money to throw at beating his addictions. And then I remembered that he's shit broke.

It frustrates me that, as a parent, he cannot see the horrible damage that his lifestyle, his choices, his extreme self-loathing, overwhelming dependencies on substances, and his unwillingness to at least try to get clean, are having on his kids. They are imprinting so many damaging paradigms and templates growing up with him as their dad. Thankfully it does seem that their mother, Vanessa, has it more together. I bet she's no angel herself, though. The poor son, he seems sweet, but he sure has a cracked-out negligent, weak role model for a father.

someone who copes in this way likely doesn't usually have the kind of self awareness that leads to good parenting anywhere. i mean, yes there are probably many exceptions but every drunk i have known has had an almost narcissistic pity party going with themselves.

the interpersonal alienation usually predates, and maybe even brings on the coping through alcohol, is what i am saying.

so, why should he be as aware of his actions as a normal, caring parent? my gut tells me without the drink, this wasn't destined to happen.

No idea if it's true or not, but there was once a blind item that both Johnny and Vanessa were hardcore druggies, and often dumped the kids onto nannies while they were growing up. If it's true, it explains why Vanessa also aged like crap.

He's fine — sends his love.

Depp has received all the gifts a human can receive - gifts that most people have to struggle without, or which they'd kill to acquire. Talent and the chance to develop his talent and have it recognized, beauty, wealth, success, fame, health, children.... and he's not only pissed all away, he's had the ill grace to complain that a new fortune wasn't appearing to take the place of the one he'd spent!

I don't know how to describe his actions except as a huge moral failure, and I'm no moralist.

Once upon a time Johnny Depp was beautiful and interesting. Now he's ugly and boring.

He wants to kill himself? Bye, Felicia.

R39 there's literally only two things he lacked/lacks: (1) a good education and (2) height, because he's shrimpy (5'8" tops, but lies about it).

There's not much he can do about the second thing, but what about the first? Studies consistently suggest that education and well-being are positively correlated.

Poor Chris Pratt

He's going to star in a new Reality Show with Artie Lange and Andy Dick

Poor people fascinate me!

[quote]He's a father for fuck's sake.

Does he parent his children, though? No. They were raised by their mother and her parents, and when with Depp, they were watched by bodyguards while he boozed and snorted and took hits. Depp's role as 'father' involves throwing money at his kids, while he carries on living out his own protracted adolesence.

[quote]Can you imagine the messy squabbling over his estate

According to him and Rolling Stone - what estate? They said his '$600 million fortune' is gone. He has massive debts, which are presumably secured on his properties, so they may be owned by creditors if he stops earning / dies.

He should sell all his stuff and live simply, break out of the bleak surroundings and themes he's allowed into his life.

Just go take a walk in the woods with your kids, Johnny. Stop chasing ghouls because now they're chasing you. Let go of embracing that negativity and start letting good things into your life again.

This makes me so sad for his children and their mother.

R47 hard for A-list celebs to jump into the frugal, simple life like us when they are used to an entourage of ~8 (?) people at their beck and whim.

I wonder if the "health crisis" that his son had recently that made Vanessa miss her own premier was a suicide attempt/drug overdose?

I’m sorry he has such a hard life, so filled with difficulty.

R47 You're right. Some people can be interested in dark topics, but still be light hearted. Marilyn Manson, is a deep thinker and interested in macabre in an intellectual way (and for shock value), but in interviews, I don't think he has a dark heart. But Johnny Depp seems to have been sucked into the dark world, first thinking it was cool, and now, thinking it is real and the only reality. Very sad indeed.

Makes me think of the Swamp of Sadness from the Never Ending Story.

[quote]Shit just 'bout to get real.

Enough with this phrase.

Good catch R50. That shit is genetic. I do remember when he lived in France he'd have to have a sitter and be kept on the property. Drinking wine like it's going out of style. His kids saw all of that. Alcoholism being the main fanfare here. Just like Heather Locklear. People go on about he should do this, she should do that. Fact is that if alcohol made you feel like they feel, you'd have a problem with it as well. Both have substantial enough NA in their genetic markers, I'm sure.

People forget the real reason behind the fall of our NAs on the Rez is not the Rez. It wasn't as much as relocation and diseased blankets from the "whites" but their unintentional means of poisoning by introducing alcohol to our continent. People assume the NA population was decimated and quarantined to the Rez forgetting about all of the racial inter-mixing in our history of the North American continent. If in your pedigree you have ancestors who were here, regardless of race, before 1800 then the probability of you carrying these genes are really strong. Some areas absorbed an abundance of these genetics. Cherokee, NC areas up the Appalachian mountain trail into Canada especially. Add the other notorious drinkers from Europe (Ireland) and you've got a clusterfuck of drunkies. Sure gives an edge in the looks department and the ability of superior balance to nail gold medals in the winter Olympics but we've got to keep our eyes peeled when an individual takes on a drastic personality change after their third drink. DNA tests and legal marijuana is the way to beat "White man's disease". Not kidding. It is really known by that name.

R52, Enty had a blind item recently where Marilyn Manson was said to be the person who got Depp back into the seriously hardcore drug use. And if the poster on this thread wasn’t joking about Manson owning a chandelier made from a four year old Chinese girls’ bones, I’d venture to say MM is not a good (or particularly thoughtful) person either.

From what little I know of Depp’s life I suspect his troubles all stem from waaaaay back in his early childhood, as his mother was reportedly unstable and more than a touch sadistic. Young children are programmed by nature to try to bond with our mothers no matter what: it’s critical for survival. So we keep reaching for momma’s embrace even if she smacks us away or tells us we’re a burden or routinely abuses and abandons us. We just keep going back.

Later in life, unless we’ve had a shit ton of therapy to try to objectively look at those experiences and consciously choose not to repeat them, we get locked into a pattern and automatically seek out partners who remind us of our opposite-sex parent, as that was the model for how to interact with a woman. You can be highly intelligent, talented, charismatic, well read, rich, a hard worker and still end up either unable to form and maintain healthy relationships at all or endlessly attracted to really fucked up ppl. Depp’s best chance to have had a healthy life would have been if he’d been adopted out as an infant and raised by sane parents.

Frankly it would probably be for the best all around if his death comes sooner rather than later. He has no other way out of the mess he’s in.

R53, really? I love that phrase and am drawn to it. It's slang equivalent of BREAKING NEWS, non?

Just DIE Already.

R55 nope. Have to disagree with you because I do know cases of about 6 people adopted out into loving homes. Their problems started with having a few beers and turning into cretins especially if they drank spirits.They all inherited it from their bio parents turns out. DNA test confirmed indigenous markers in background.Their adoptive families didn't know what to make of this problem. NOW they know. One guy even met up with this bio family who had this trait for generations but they didn't even know NA mix was there. Now THEY know!

So defeatist R55. Never surrender to it. Where there's a will, there's a way. Remind yourself that you can spiral up just as fast as you can spiral down. Decision change up and a good doctor can get it done.

Yeah but those two things didn't hinder him R41. We can't ALL have it all. He needs an education on NA alcoholism history. Probably has some lactose intolerance in there but never made the connection to why some foods make him sick or all bloated.

So, Mr. Depp,

DNA tests and deep DNA tests to identify all of your genetic markers

Full panel liver tests identifying enzymes

NA history and intensive genealogy search to keep occupied while sobering up

Endocrinologist on board and an M.D. specializing in addictions

That's for starters. Hook up as friends with Heather Locklear so you can support each other.

I think I'm done here

In his prime, Johnny Depp was a wonderful actor. I hope he stops drinking and drugging, and I've seen enough people in recovery to know that miracles can happen.

But Depp is dealing with two major factors that make recovery especially difficult. One is that his drinking has already done considerable physical and mental damage (including possible wet brain). Unlike people in earlier stages of alcoholism, he is no longer fully in control of his faculties and behavior.

The other issue is his wealth and celebrity. Most people stop drinking because they know if they continue, they will face unpleasant consequences--loss of intimate relationships and sexual partners, loss of family and friends, loss of jobs and money, and potential legal consequences. But wealthy celebrities are largely insulated from that. Many of them continue to be employed and even if they aren't, they usually have enough money to live well. And they will always have an army of enablers--various leeches and hangers-on who are willing to provide sex, companionship, drugs, expert lawyering to keep them out of jail, whatever.

Given the latter scenario, it's a miracle that when wealthy celebrity achieves sobriety. They are insulated from the kind of losses that can be a powerful motivator for sobriety. They also tend to lack the necessary humility.

So the odds are not looking good for Johnny. But as I said, miracles can happen.

So he is going to commit suicide?

When your BF is a scumbag like Marilyn Manson, doubtful you're going anywhere but down deeper in the hole, while he watches and jerks off to your decline.

So now we have a NA genetic alcoholism troll! Bring back the Anthony Recker fart troll I say.

Depp, Hunter S. Thompson, MM, and Brando all suffered from being incredibly sick and twisted individuals. He doesn't deserve any sympathy.

My bet is he kills himself sometime in 2019 or ODS

He lacks the energy to commit suicide.

He's trying mighty hard to commit suicide the slow way, aka Leaving Los Vegas.

Alcoholism is only glamorous in an ideological sense via the "myth" of the tortured artist. People who still buy into this creative myth are delusional, and I think Johnny does. He should realize only 18 year olds think alcohol and drugs are "cool," and indeed they are only cool when one is 18. When one is 52, alcoholism and addiction are just pathetic and sad, and create Fremdschämen in all those around you.

Johnny's always struck me as a bit of the "Who Am I This Time" type, someone with no real core personality.

Sometimes I suspect that he's adopted all of this dark and dangerous stuff because he thinks it makes him a real tortured artist, or at least someone with a personality. Of course it's just an odd impression, but it's a sad thought. If he's doing this because of any degree of wannabe-ness, because he wants to be an authentic badass like Hunter S. Thompson or a genuinely dark person like Marlon Brando, then the damage he's done to himself and others is real.

I’ll be waiting to welcome you to hell, JD!

R70 Well......so.....wow. If ever there were a thing to slowly gnaw and eat away at your soul over a coupla decades, and send you into an endless dank black self-loathing spiral, THAT'D be a thing that could do it. The haunting knowing, deep inside, that you caused someone's vicious murder? I would not be able to live with that on my conscience. Staying blotto is the only way you could keep that truth bomb at bay.

Oh, and add to that River Phoenix's death, and you got yourself a death sandwich.

I have concluded that Depp is a Borderline. His childhood was rough, negligent, rife with deprivation, unstable, violent and devoid of maternal warmth. Even if he had the self-awareness to think the thought "hey, i think I am all messed up inside and could benefit from therapy," frankly, he probably does not want to touch that shit with a ten foot poll, because reliving things that were already awful the first time, is excruciating.

Depp a textbook example of how looks and success are meaningless when you had an unexamined traumatizing childhood, that sadness and emptiness will eat away at every good thing, like the Nothing in Neverending Story. It boils down to an absence of internalized love and warmth, which was supposed to get installed in childhood by attentive, caring parents.

It drives me CRAZZZZYYYY when people on, like, Daily Fail, in the comments, go "Aww poor so and so was {insert trauma here}. Cry me a river, love. Go console yourself with your millions and get a grip." As if money magically heals developmental, emotional, or sexual damage. The ignorance.

An early salutation for the (not yet) dearly departed...

R72, unfortunately, Depp has continued the pattern with his own children.

R72 You are definitely the ignorant one.

There are those of us who have not a FUCKING thing. But have been traumatized by unloving uncaring parents. We have nothing and struggle just to keep afloat with a place to live and necessities. Depp has had a very successful career and millions. Now he is traumatizing his own children.

SO cry me a very wide fucking river.

R 75 No I hear you. And in many ways there is so much integrity and strength in having to function in the world with nothing, having had shitty parenting and all the attendant pain and work that goes into dealing with the fallout from that. Trust me, I'm one of you. I'm just saying, money doesn't fix it. It probably just makes the ability to self-medicate and self-destruct much more potent and toxic, if anything.

To bring kids into your fucked up unexamined world of debauchery and pain, is horrific. But back to my point in R72 - when little Jack gets hooked on crack, when Lily Rose slits her wrists, the Daily Failers will be saying "Oh boo hoo you had famous parents and every material comfort, can you hear me playing the world's smallest violin right now?" But we at DL know, that all the tropical island properties and Marilyn Monroe memorabilia collections and franchise royalties in the known universe, could ever substitute for the outrageous things those kids been through and witnessed, nor for the stability and wholesomeness they did not receive.

I feel like there was a long stretch there where even the press normalized and enabled Depp's alcohol abuse.

Like I feel like long articles were written about him as some sort of lovable sexy slightly debauched romantic rockstar but also a loving dad / family man at same time, who always had a glass of expensive red wine in his hand because it was "French."

It felt like there was always some bullshit mythology surrounding him as he chainsmoked and swilled wine.

If you are constantly drunk at age 35, 40, 45, etc -- there's nothing glamorous or continental about that.

There was also the romanticized drunken Jack Sparrow character.

As if any of this wasn't lethal...

R77 spot on, I remember reading said articles back in the day

MM talk about the macabre is shtick. If you hear him talk about the death of his Dad, he is a thoughtful sweet guy.

"And in many ways there is so much integrity and strength in having to function in the world with nothing, having had shitty parenting and all the attendant pain and work that goes into dealing with the fallout from that. Trust me, I'm one of you. I'm just saying, money doesn't fix it. "

I'm another one who's spent my life dealing with the aftereffects of childhood trauma, with no money or support from my family, and for many years, no medical insurance, and minimal sick leave. Depp may have his own baggage but at least he's got the money and resources to get the best kind of help, and to pay out of hand for anything that isn't covered by the SAG insurance.

Instead, he's used the money and resources to buy lots and lots of drugs and alcohol. And that's where I say "Cry me a fucking river".

Depp is so pathetic now. His cool image is now gone so what's he is going to do?

R81, see title of thread.

Tragic, another luvvie at the sherry.

Prayers for Johnny

If he commits suicide, will the media and industry make some type of tragic hero out of him?

Will get a lot of snark for this, but...

Alcoholics are selfish assholes. They don't give a shit that they are hurting their loved ones, they care only about how THEY feel. Disease my ass. It is a character disorder. Not a fucking disease.

I agree that the lack of a stable childhood has led to the Johnny Depp we see today, but I would argue his adoption of the "tortured artist" image enables him to see himself as some kind of romanticized Hunter S. Thompson/Lord Byron type rather than a combo of Mel Gibson with Lindsey Lohan. This self deception furthermore enables him to perpetuate the debauchery without the pangs of conscience. In rare moments, I suspect he catches a glimpse of his real self/ego, and is horrified. Maybe BPD, but definitely narcissistic.

Yep [87]. Depp doesn't seem very bright and seems to have zero self-awareness so naturally his self-image has no basis in reality. He sees what he wants to see and people like him, even those without the money and resources, don't accept what they consider outside interference. They can't change themselves because they don't see anything that needs changing. It's the people around them who are the problem, not them. And you can't drag them away from their place of denial because they don't want to go. They can't face what's really going on so they double-down. Going to rehab is never gonna happen for this guy. And I doubt he feels like he's being self-destructive.

He is brain damaged. It's too late for him to change.

It's tragic. What will happen to the scarves?!!!!!!

Seriously, the statement about a lack of self awareness is a forewarning. You cannot value what you do not have. That sense of self, absent in the neglected and abused, is vital to self-preservation. The absence of that in Depp's case, added to the debilitating effects of long-term alcoholism and self-abuse is a death spiral he may not pull out of.

He needs help and fast.

Then again, if someone is dying and that's what they want, you don't interfere...

so the things they say when they are drunk, true or not true?

I agree, rehab won't work.

he will die even faster. like amy winehouse, her tolerance for booze went down and she drank the same amt during relapse and her body couldn't take it and she died.

I hope they have the last three Fantastic Beasts films in the can already. I hate when they have to change main character actors midway through a series.

Why couldn't they have just kept Collin Farrell in the roll? He's much prettier to look at.

^role

I have a friend just like him. refuses to grow up. already 50 but still acting like he's a fucking 20 year old. Thinks he's the coolest guy, rock star and must act a certain way. so fucking cliche!

You see a lot of 40's/50's guys like that R96. Thinking they're "metal", wearing the same crappy stuff they did in their 20's. Like Depp, they've no idea how un-cool and pitiful they look.

Will he hang from a red scarf tied to a doorknob?

Actually r40 was always boring. The interesting thing about him was that he came out of John Waters camp. On his own Johnny was never interesting and I think he knew that. He's like any uninteresting person who seeks to make a personality out of partying or doing weird shit.

[quote]Studies consistently suggest that education and well-being are positively correlated.

I highly doubt that. Intellectualizing never brought anyone happiness. Well being is connected to the ability to accept where you are and what is happening. It's positive attitude and a sense of self worth outside of a metric.

His fame whore slut ex wife ambet something would fight tooth and nail for some piece of his estate, she'll cry to the media for sympathy and everything.

Don't forget (perhaps you haven't) r69 Depp worked with Brando on the film Don Juan deMarco. So Johnny got some schooling from both those masters of the dark .

R100 " Intellectualizing never brought anyone happiness. "

Truer words were never spoken!! My brain was so screwed up after getting my Master's degree. It's concepts on top on concepts, breaking everything down and analyzing parts and pieces until nothing feels spontaneous and alive anymore.

Your words about the true source of well-being coming from just accepting who/what/were you are...are really lovely.

When he dies people will breathe a sigh of relief knowing that Depp won't be able to assault them anymore.

I think the combo of a bad childhood and early success in young adulthood were bad for him. He became rich and famous before he had the time to fully mature and work through his childhood issues. He had fame and money to fill the emotional void. Plus he was great looking so everyone wanted him. He has an adolescent fascination with self destructive artists. I think he stopped growing mentally around age 22. Most people are forced to develop a more realistic view in order to survive. He's only now being forced to deal with reality. He also appears to have an bad biochemical relationship to alcohol. His ex fiancées say he was very sweet when young. He kept his looks until very recently. If he'd sobered up 5 years ago he'd be fine now. It's a waste.

I thought he died already? So sad he's still alive.

Hopefully he dies soon.

I was speaking from experience r103 and from knowing enough university professors and lawyers. They are all in love with how smart they are but they are not happy people.

I'm not defending him, but if I had anywhere near that much money and fame handed to me in my 20's I would never have made it to 40. I suspect most of you wouldn't have either.

Astute observation, R100.

Agree, R100. Self-awareness is key. Until you have that epiphany moment that deep down, you are who you are, warts and all, you aren't square with life. Alcohol cocoons you and shields you from your ugliness. It's scary to realize you're not the romanticized character you've constructed in your mind, who is oh-so shit upon by everyone else but totally blameless; you are just as flawed as everyone else, and you are responsible for your own shit.

I didn't become self-aware until I was over 50. Alcohol kept this realization at bay. When it finally happened, it fell on me like a ton of bricks. It was terrible, but it was the best thing that happened to me. I can now cope with life much better and understand where I am, what is happening around me, and know that I can choose my behavior instead of just reacting and reacting.

This thread is one of the most educational I've read on DL and obviously struck a chord in me. I feel very bad for JD. I hope he can come out of this.

most guys drink coz their lives are shitty, hasn't turned out the way they wanted, they didn't become rich and famous, dreams ain't coming true etc.

He has already achieved what others have dreamed of and more...

How will he kill himself? Ideas?

R111, all of that comes with a price tag. It's not monetary.

R112, probably drugs, though the erotic asphyxiation route is also always available for the particularly nasty deviant. We don't care how they get here.

Wake me when he's fucking dead.

R114, Wake me up inside Wake me up inside Call my name and save me from the dark Bid my blood to run Before I come undone Save me from the nothing I've become

I’m a little hopeful because he’s being sued. The judge is going to be very cautious with him because he is a high suicide risk. However, since a bunch of money is involved, Depp may be forced to sell a few of the countries he owns and many other of his ridiculous things. He’s clearly dual-diagnosis and will spend future earnings the same way. If he’s found incompetent to handle money, a lawyer or two will be assigned. I hope that happens.

I’m worried about all these people killing themselves and copycat suicides.

It's kind of sad but it's always telling to me when people who achieve great wealth (celebrity-lottery-business person etc) spend it on stupid shit like planes or an island. It shows that they lack real depth and decency.

Yes, I'd love to have a bit more comfort but I couldn't imagine being that self indulgent if I had tens of millions at my disposal. If he'd spent a bit more time spreading his wealth to the less fortunate in a hands on way (I know I'm setting myself up for this) he'd probably be a bit more grounded.

wellbeing is most strongly correlated with age.

at least, that's what i remember from psych class.

Winona Ryder really dodged a bullet with this one....

R72 is completely on point. See also Jonathan Rhys Meyers who had a neglectful alcoholic mother & was sexually abused as a teenager. Both Meyers & Depp seem unlikely to live longer than a year at this point.

R45, and others, on this thread - I’d like to explain something about the early onset of addiction and alcoholism.

From what I understand, Depp’s been drinking since the age of 11. Not sure if this is correct, but this is what I’ve heard.

If this is true, then Johnny stopped developing emotional maturation, at this age.

I started partying after I turned 17. Fortunately for me, I loved school, and loved learning, so even though I was partying, I was educated enough to admit to myself that I had a major problem, by the age of 23.

When I got sober, it became exceedingly clear to me that I lacked emotional maturity, and had zero coping mechanisms available to me, other than my previous abuse of drugs and alcohol.

Learning to become a “grownup “, took some time, and admittedly, still ongoing. Even though I’m sober, there are times that I just want to isolate, and retreat, especially when circumstances around me, get deep.

I’ve been in therapy, and have stayed sober since my relapse. Because I got sober early on, and have been sober for most of my life, I have most of the basics down. I get up early, I go to work everyday while on summer break, I go to school, I study, do my homework, pay my bills, etc. Shit everybody does or has done. But when shit hits the fan, as it has recently for me, I am still not 100% OK. I’m much, much better than before, but I do catch myself behaving like my 17 year old self, plenty of times.

For me, alcoholism was a way to deal with the justified anger I carried around , because I was raised by a mentally ill, abusive mother. My childhood was hell, as a result of living with her, and I stuffed that down as far as possible, because this is what my mother, and her enablers, taught me to do. That right there, is NOT my fault.

So Johnny is dealing with anger. Depression is brain chemistry that is inherited, and environmental in the development of the brain. It’s obvious that he had a very dysfunctional childhood, and he’s punishing himself for shit that others were responsible for.

The reason why it’s so difficult for people to get sober, and stay sober, is because all of the narratives that were built in one’s mind, have to be deconstructed. Erasing the old tapes, as they say. Admitting that people who were supposed to love you, fucked you over, is not easy to digest. The truth really does hurt here. However, it’s necessary to get to the bare bones, in order to have a fighting chance, and to rebuild.

Getting sober, hopefully affords one the opportunity to compartmentalize what goes where. Once you know who the toxic people are in your life, and what behaviors within yourself, trigger self harm, you are able to draw boundaries, and own your own part in your self harm, and accept complete responsibility for yourself.

I think that Johnny is terrified of growing up, and being alone. He’s definitely lonely, but being alone, is too much to bear. When you get sober, and get your shit together, you realize that everyone is actually really alone. No matter who’s around, we are all responsible for our own choices, and how we deal with conflict.

He will either get into a long term rehab, and get rid of all of his enablers, or he’ll die an alcoholic death, which isn’t pretty.

R121 Whoa. That was very generous of you to share. And super informative. I can relate to a lot of what you said, too. "When you get sober, and get your shit together, you realize that everyone is actually really alone. " I only recently awoke to this reality, after 20 years of therapy. Growing up means accepting your essential "aloneness" and becoming responsible for your own emotional needs and all the other practical needs of life. Not being co-dependent, addicted, or victimized by the past, not being held hostage by fear. Not farming out to others in your present, all the things that were supposed to be provided to you by your family, in the past. I mean, I think even people with fairly normal upbringings will arrive at this place, but maybe it isn't such a bumpy ride to get there. It's super scary. But also very satisfying and grounding to be self-reliant and self-accepting of the reality of who YOU are. Seeing clearly your history, your strengths, weaknesses, and aptitudes. And then working with it all, rather than fighting against it all. The pendulum of unmet needs stops wildly swinging hither and thither, and you settle down.

I am mainly not sure if Johnny is too far gone, in the sense of having done too much irreversible physical damage to his brain and body. Secondly for him to sober up and see the trail of messes in his wake, might just not be an option for him. It would be potentially unbearable. We're talking over 40 years of gnarly messes.

I love you 121 you show great introspection & compassion. I too had an abusive mentally ill mother & got sober seven years ago. Child abuse actually changes your brain, it's science not an excuse. I wouldn't change all those years of self-torture though. I came out of it a much more solid & compassionate person than I would have been otherwise.

Who would have thought that a thread on one of the most massively messed up individuals in existence would turn out to be the wisest, sanest, and most thoughtful discussion to appear here in a long time.

I think it is hard to imagine someone as spectacularly beautiful and as spectacularly Appalachian as Johnny Depp wasn't sexually abused at some point in life.

R122 and R123, thank so much for sharing your insights with me. I’m happy we’re all on our way in continuing recovery.

R125, while that is entirely possible, abuse is abuse. It doesn’t have to be sexual, in order for it to fuck you up, badly.

My mother didn’t sexually abuse me. She physically hit me, and emotionally neglected me. She treated me like a huge hindrance, rather than her child. She thought she was a good mother, because she made sure I had everything I needed while growing up, and also made sure to instill a false narrative that she cared for me, because I had the prettiest clothes, and jewelry.

My mother treated me like a doll to play dress-up with, on her good days, and never, ever, hugged me, or even gave me a kiss on the cheek.

On her bad days, which were the norm, she followed me around the house, screaming at me for hours, and hitting me with a wooden spoon, or whatever she could find.

So please, let me assure you, that any type of abuse and/or neglect, will fuck a kid up.

Yes R121 so brave and honest of you to share on an anonymous blog.

Depp has no personality of his own so he stole it all from others to try and look cool.

R119, the rumors were she cheated on him so it probably only added to his insecurities.

R127, why are you such an unhappy bitch?

R129, that's Depp - an unhappy bitch

[quote]How will he kill himself? Ideas?

He will shoot himself out of a canon.

R131, that will be after his death. His buddy Manson will do it for him.

Manson is not alive

R133 is right. Hillary Clinton went to his house, ankle and neck brace included, and clubbed him to death with the femur of the skeleton of the little dead Asian girl, that he has hanging as a chandelier, in his dining room.

Hillary Clinton is a brave, American warrior. And this is why I will vote for her for the rest of my life, even if she never runs again, gets locked up, or dies!

Where's the blind item about Marilyn Manson and Johnny Depp?

Here are some.

I have known a few guys like this. They are a train wreck. You cannot help them no matter how hard you try. Good thing Amber Heard left. His cock doesn't work, too much booze and drugs. And probably lots of organ damage...definitely early death.

He loves to collect theses crazy, hopeless people as friends. another friend he's good friends with is Shane MacGowen, who so fucked up and barely functioning at age 60.

Shane was also cute, until he smiled at you.

R137 I know he's friends with some damaged people...but MacGowan?! I did not know that.... Huh.

So if the blinds are to be believed it meth and crack. Makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why Alice Cooper is still with him in the band. Money I guess.

Cooper might be trying to help him. He had a very serious alcohol problem himself and he believes Christ saved him from it. He might be hoping to save Depp.

Aaaaaw. so sad for OP. OP and his minions cannot move past their obsessive hatred for Johnny Depp. Aaaaaw, poor OP. OP and his friends are too stupid to realize that Depp simply got the wrong people mad at him. Nothing more. Aaaaw, OP is the media's wet dream come true.

Or maybe poor OP has some kind of crush on lil Amber. Is lil Amber OP's "hot mess" idol? Aaaaaw. Poor lil millionaire Amber who had a domestic violence complaint against her in 2016 and who knows how to cry on cue for TMZ's cameras and who will use any kind of social issue to gain face-time because she's trying so hard to "happen" and because she's too stupid to realize that the days of A-list actresses are over and that "big celebritydom" just isn't "happening" anymore. Aaaaw, poor OP's lil Amber, guess the little liar will have to go cry on giant bag of money. Aaaaaaaw. So sad considering Never-Heard-Of-This-Bitch-Until-She-Hooked-Up-With-Depp "abuse" survivor.

Oh, wait abusing the term "domestic abuse" in order to draw attention to oneself really isn't what the average woman would define as abuse. Thank goodness lil Amber was rich enough to find time to skulk around Depp's house with her lil phone. Poor lil Amber, she suffers from a very, very bad case of fame-whore syndrome. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Aaaaawww, OP get's a thrill out of other people's despair and suicidal feelings. OP will have to explain their grudge against a guy they have never spent two minutes alone in a room with. Either to Datalounge or to a highly qualified psychiatrist (I would recommend the latter).

Thanks for taking a blind item and publicly attaching someone's name to it without knowing the facts. (Maybe lil weeping Amber is the one who is drunk and suicidal. Maybe OP could head over to lil fragile Amber's mansion with some Sara Lee and just chow down, catch up on all the latest gossip and talk about men guuuuuurrrrrrrlllll!!!)

And Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii will alwaaaaaaays looooooove Joooohhhhhhnny!! (No matter how much his former money handlers want to se him destroyed.)

Johnny Depp, Sweet Moments With His Fans

It’s spelled “awww.”

R142 sounds like the kind of fan I’d rather not have.

Sara Lee? Try again, Boris at R142. When DL pounds cake, it's Dollar General.

Depp, as is his custom, had his nickname for Heard, "Slim", tattooed on his hand. After they divorced, as is his custom, he had the tattoo altered to read "Scum". He just recently had it altered again to read "Scam". LOVE IT!!!

Johnny, honey, ya' never should've spoken to Rolling Stone. Just a once-relevant magazine that is now a tabloid and trying desperately to stay relevant (kind of like your former scam-my friend).

Wouldn't be surprised if Johnny is suicidal. Even a healthy person cannot handle relentless public humiliation.

"Never start a war with those who buy their ink in barrels." - Benjamin Franklin

[quote]"Never start a war with those who buy their ink in barrels." - Benjamin Franklin

Hard to tell which party you’re referring to here.

There is a certain type of Johnny Depp fan that more and more makes me understand the notion of 'folio a deux". But with these types , Our Johnny seems to be in a "folie a million". The fans have no genuine personality of their own and neither has Mr Depp and they all seem conduit delusion. Leave the frownsy fuckers to it, eh? If they can't recognise that it takes a whole Waste Man to end up as dissolute as Mr Depp who has had so much , nothing will save either them , or he. I'm going to stop looking at this one , even between splayed fingers. Same way that people with faculties still somewhat intact knew that Amy Winehouse was going to die four years before she did and not after living an even medium amount of time, either.

"Because you asked me to..."

R37 sounds plausible.

The nanny stuff also sounds plausible.

Same with her new husband, talent/bravado notwithstanding.

He’ll die young but he won’t kill himself on purpose.

R142, the only fans Depp still has are retarded as you just proved

R142 Hi Johnnie!

Loved you in 21 Jump Street!

He's gross and has been for a very long time. I've seen cleaner hobos.

I feel sorry for Johnny. He was never what you'd call bright but he was talented and beautiful. He had plenty of problems and substance abuse issues before Heard started in on him. After they got together he went downhill mighty fast. He was lucky to get away from her alive but there wasn't much left of him. I wouldn't be surprised if he OD'd but I would be surprised to find him in a hotel hanging from a doorknob (unless Amber visits him).

Did she ever donate those millions she was supposed to? (I'm guessing she was Trump-esque in her charitable giving but I could be wrong)

closet kills

Let’s stop blaming women for his problems. That’s part of what feeds into his denial.

This is squarely on the shoulders of Mr. Depp. The sooner he realizes that he indeed does have control to say, I have a problem, and I ALONE NEED HELP, the sooner he gets himself into a situation where he can get that help.

Amber has been long gone. This has nothing to do with her. We know it, and so does he.

I'm not unhappy R129 I just enjoy getting a rise out of people on here.

I hope this link works for you, R157. It appears Heard did donate much of the settlement. So, she might be a bitch (or not), but the money went to those who truly needed it, at least.

R161 That was all worked out beforehand to make her look good. I'm sure she got another check that she pocketed.

AAAAAWWWWW! Lil rich, weeping Amber finally forked over the money she passionately and publicly promised to give. AAAWWWW!

There was no way she wasn't going to donate that money. I guess that just proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Johnny Depp is evil and she is a non-lying, non-bitch (it actually only proves that she could well-afford to give that money away, I mean she has enough cash to pay the Daily Mail to keep running stories about her as if she is interesting).

R163, people are not on Johnny's side in this, they are on Amber's side.

R163 is a deranged Depp stalker fan. Ignore.

R48, Vanessa has married. She's moved on to presumed happiness.

R166, Vanessa finally found the right guy to marry. Good for her. Perhaps she never married Depp cause she figured out he was not the right guy for marriage.

It's nice that people are on Amber's side and that she has a fan base, I'm sure she appreciates all three of you. I'm not saying she has no value as an entertainer, Heard trying to satisfy her Madonna-level need for attention is truly funny to watch.

Do you honestly expect people to believe that Heard was genuinely in love with Depp and that she thought he was all a man could be and so much more? The man had lost any appeal that he previously had and was obviously in terrible shape when she met him. Their "relationship" was a desperate fame-grab for the 30-something, unknown Heard.

Sorry but Depp's reputation definitely does not proceed him - everyone from his first wife, to Winona Ryder, to Vanessa Paradis, to his former co-stars and everyone he knows him have stated that kind of behavior is completely out of character for him so, yup, I will allow the thought that there was no combat on the night in question or is there was the combat was mutual (and that Heard had no reason, except for vindictive ones, to stay with Depp if she even for a second felt threatened by him).

Yes, Depp has drank his brain cells away. Whatever attracted him to Heard is a huge symptom.

R168 it's also pretty likely that a lifetime booze has made him more violent. All his other exes said he was a sweet guy with them. I believe them, but Heard has evidence of his aggressive behavior. I think he got together with her at the point that he lost his mind. Heard is most likely a game whoring gold digger and thought she could handle him. She probably figured it was the price of admission to the A list. She realized she couldn't handle him. He probably expected her to fix him and got angry when she couldn't or wouldn't.

Yes, that could also be true R169, in all fairness.

I'm still not going to jump to believe that Depp is a monster and that Heard was just a demure, helpless victim. That bit with the phone in the kitchen - when she should've been long gone by then if what she claims is true. However, they're both rich, more rich than I'll ever be, so I'll let them deal with it.

Well, here is one small victory for Depp. If we want to look at it as a victory. At least there won't be anymore press about it, thank God.

Wow. He does look unhealthy. Wonder if it's lung cancer.

It’s drugs and booze r172

Amber Heard is a lesbian beard and like Depp she has history of domestic abuse

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I have a good friend who is like depp. Super nice, kind and sweet, a perfect gent and very charming but when he drinks, the nasty side comes out, spews anti-semite speech, N word, all kinds of disgusting shit comes out of his mouth

I do not know what I should do, which is the real him? Should I stay friends?

R176, geez. If you have to ask...

I don’t believe that Amber is a demure, innocent victim. She married him for cash and prizes, however, he also married her for his own selfish reasons.

Neither of these two are or were likeable people when the brouhaha went down.

When I drank, I too, became an entirely different person. So the Jekyll/Hyde thing is not surprising.

Look, he’s rid of her now. Perfect time to start over.

R173 Looks like he's been drugging and boozing for quite a while. I'm sorry but we may get news of the c-word at some point. Maybe he is just settling his finances as best he can so he can at least leave something to his children. (I don't think they should count on the island in the Bahamas, thiough.)

R176 A real friend is kind to another friend regardless of what substances are pulsating through their blood stream. Hang out with your friend only when they are sober and being nice. Boundaries, you must set clear boundaries with a friend and let them know a drunk, abusive friend is not really a friend. Talk to a parent, a teacher - any adult you trust, in the meantime make it clear to your friend that you think booze is a snooze!

Otherwise if you keep getting the nasty, drunk friend wait until they are blind, shit-faced drunk and take your revenge any way you please.

R177 Well put. Yes, it is time to move on. Amber Shm-Amber, that's what I say. Wonder how all of the other suits against Depp are going to play out. (Please Lord, I don't ask for much, please don't let me turn on the television and see Johnny doing Reverse Mortgage commercials! Or doing a commercial that starts out with a line like, "I'm not a cross-dresser but I played one in a movie....". Are you there God? It's me R178.)

JD and John Rhys Meyers should hang out. J2 party.

R179 Yes! And they could invite Shia LeBeauf, LeBoff, whatever his name is.

R179 And maybe invite Stan Lee and Lisa Marie Presley?? Oh how all of them could get together and commiserate!

[quote]I have a good friend who is like depp. Super nice, kind and sweet, a perfect gent and very charming but when he drinks, the nasty side comes out, spews anti-semite speech, N word, all kinds of disgusting shit comes out of his mouth I do not know what I should do, which is the real him?

That [bold]is[/bold] the real him. The alcohol lowers his defenses so that other aspects of his true character are revealed.

[quote]When I drank, I too, became an entirely different person. So the Jekyll/Hyde thing is not surprising.

Not a different person. The same person with fewer controls.

JOHNNY'S EVIL! JOHNNY'S EVIL! NO EXCUSES! HE'S JUST EVIL!

R178, I take it that by your last sentence (question) , your name is Margaret? Lol!

R182, funny you should say that, because that means that I’m actually a total sweetheart. My friends always told me I need to stop drinking, which fortunately, I did. However, they said they kinda loved me just a little bit more, when I was drunk. 🥂💞🥂

R184 Margaret, Margaret R178

Or in a made for TV Judy Blume novel, R185.

Thanks R186

Wish Johnny had read "Then Again, Maybe I Won't". There was a good message there for him, but now....but now look at everything! *sob*

[quote]the ability of superior balance to nail gold medals in the winter Olympics

Is this true, that Native American blood gives you better balance? Or did you mean Irish blood?

Johnny Depp isn't Native American. I'm not sure why he doesn't catch Elizabeth Warren levels of shit for his claims.

And being Native American does not give you special, mystical powers, nor is it an indicator of athletic abilities or the ability to balance yourself especially well.

I bet the sex Angelina Jolie finally got to have with him was a total disappointment for them both.

R191 I heard that they didn't exactly get along while making that boring movie. I guess Jolie wanted him to clean up his look and get a haircut and he wouldn't do it. Weird, I always thought they'd make the perfect onscreen couple.

I guess they were each 10 years past their primes for each other.

Depp and Jolie's personality disorders are way too similar for them to even like each other, much less fall in lust/love. People do better with their complement, not their clone.

Good point R194.

Except somehow she’s a rigid control freak grimly racking up a bio as global humanitarian player and selfless mother ...... & he’s passed out in barf on his leather couch, his life emptied of family members except the unabashed grifters

R196 Ah, he's known to be kind to people. There was a story I read, he was in New York, walking somewhere in the early evening when a guy tried to mug him. The guy recognized him and said, "I can't mug Captain Jack!" and started running. Depp called him back and gave him some money. Sounds lame, I know, but maybe Depp figured the guy wouldn't mug anyone if he had some money.

Hope Depp isn't to the point where he is thinking about the mugger money and how nice it would be nice to have it back. Nah, I don't think it has gotten quite that bad. Yet.

Johnny Suicidal is derp

R190 fool, it sure does. Different ear drum, balance ability like a cat. Go look up who built our bridges. Go ahead. I just shut you up.

Johnny Depp Now Completely Made Of Scarves And Bracelets

Depp's ex beard Kate Moss and her partner Naomi Campbell

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Courtney Love outed Kate Moss as lesbian lover

Oh he’ll be fine.

Winona Ryder got the perfect revenge on a kid who called her 'faggot'

I saw this story as Winona's coming out

Why would that loser call her a faggot and not a dyke?

Nvm just read that article.

It's all good. He's just trolling people like Joaquin Phoenix did.

Joaquin Phoenix is such a fame-whore for someone who pretends to hate fame!

Pull UP, bitch!

If he's suicidal why is he still alive???

Kanye suicidal. Depp suicidal. Selena Gomez suicidal. Get on with it already jesus fucking christ.

[quote]he will die even faster.

I don’t know. His idol Brando lived to a pretty ripe age despite obesity and mental illness, and another idol, Keith Richards, appears to be immortal.

Keith Richards is not as old as you think

December 18, 1943 (age 74 years)

Depp is clearly at the end of her rope. She will be bankrupt in no time. May she RIP.

How long Depp will live?

Once Depp is bankrupt, the drugs and alcohol will finish her off.

Michael Keaton Replacing Johnny Depp in the John McAfee Movie

McAfee did not want Depp to play him so he lobbied against him. I would not say he was replaced.

Keaton will be awesome.

Still pulling for JD.

Love Keaton!

lol, McAfee says Depp was too much of a pussy to play him. He also said on twitter that Depp was fired from production.

Old thread.

Me too, R220. He’s been one of my faves since I was a teen, AND he’s also HAF!!

As long as Depp keeps taking roles which require heavy makeup, perhaps people won't notice the effects of premature aging.

Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt have both fallen on hard times yet Tom Cruise is still doing remarkably well.

"Wino Forever" was right on the money, apparently.

R226, would Winona gloat over Depp's fall from grace though? For many years she wouldn't shut up about how they dated and how he was her big love in those interviews she gave after her shoplifting. She herself fell from grace for a long time and had bad reputation now.

Winona gave no such interviews after her shoplifting arrest-the first real interview she did was in 2008 for Vogue in which she addressed her arrest for the first and only time and basically said she does not feel bad cause she did the crime and paid the time. In the 90s she did say Johhny and Pirner were two men she truly loved.

I hope his awful fucking Harry Potter films flop

Depp isn't going to get his shit together.

Of course it'd be entirely possible to get his shit together under these circumstances, and if he was willing to listen to his financial advisors, go to rehab and take it seriously, find a good acting coach, and spend his days working on his craft instead of destroying his liver, he'd be all set for a career resurgence! But Depp doesn't show any sign of wanting to do any of that, he just wants to get on with fucking everything up.

So he’s given up, R230? I can believe that.

The thing about getting sober is this: the first couple of years kinda suck. Most people experience anhedonia, and you’re just exhausted. And what sucks is that if you have seen it all, done it all, you tend to get pretty cynical. It takes your body and brain years to completely heal, and consistent therapy to retire the brain.

Here’s what I’ve experienced: if one can stay sober for those first 2 to 3 years, things start to change. You become hopeful again, you feel like engaging more with others, and the cloud of depression starts to lift. It takes a while, but for those of us who partied like there’s no tomorrow, it took us years to get to the point where we realize we just can’t do it any longer.

After three years, things start rolling again, and depending on what you did during those first theee years, in order to heal, it gets MUCH better. But you’ve gotta stick with it. Go to therapy even when you don’t want to, force yourself to eat well, take walks, go running, whatever.

Once you get over the loss and the depression, you realize how fucking lucky you are to be alive, and you are grateful you didn’t die by misadventures, or suicide.

I’m going through this right now. Not my first time in this rodeo, so I have a pretty good idea on what to expect.

I wish this guy would pop his head out of his own ass. His life, though, and his choices.

STFU. No one cares what you mentally ill fucks think. You don't know the man nor do you understand what he is going through.

Thanks, R231.

Tell me, do you see any sign that Depp is willing to do any of what you've done? I don't, apparently he won't even take basic advice from his financial people, he hasn't even got the balls to sell off properties he isn't using when the market is good. And that's simple, compared to getting sober.

R13, you're a fucking moronic piece of shit. And you're so goddamned boring. Please leave.

R70 You're a fucking wacko conspiracy theorist with zero interesting to add. Go away, for the love of God.

R233, I’ve no idea what Johnny is willing to do.

He lost his mom, his wife, and his money, all in one shot. That’s a lot of loss.

R232, Johnny isn’t unique or special. He’s an actor. That’s what he does, in order to put food on the table. Being an actor, or famous, doesn’t make one exempt from depression, mental illness, addiction, or alcoholism. This is probably his biggest obstacle. He has convinced himself that he is terminally unique, and that he himself, doesn’t have to do the same shit everyone else has to do, if they want to stay alive and make a fucking living.

The janitor and the movie star have to do the same thing when it comes to getting their shit together.

Depp exists in a different dimension and life-existence, it was crystal clear in those two interviews he did especially the rolling stone interview ... his lack of awareness of the very life he was living, his money, his chefs, assistant, drug dealers .... it was so weird to read about his actual lifestyle.

He has been GOD WORSHIPPED for nearly 30 years.

Depp's future embalmer would only need to glue his mouth shut and hose him down, to make him look and smell better, at this point.

It's a shame he has rejected anyone who isn't an enabler because he needs non-druggie/drunkard friends now, to get him to a hospital-rehab.

Why won't he do a rehab?

Because he doesn’t believe it works, R239. And he’s mostly correct. But as someone who got sober again in a rehab with a medical facility, I personally HAD to do it that way.

I was drinking too much to not receive medical attention. When I got sober the first time, it was just blow. I was able to walk into an AA meeting, and that’s how I got sober. But I was 23, and I wasn’t drinking like a fish.

This time around, I had to go in a rehab. No way would I had stayed sober if I hadn’t. I was extremely sick, and people told me the truth. I looked like I was about to die. And I felt like I was.

I disliked a lot of the bullshit I saw when in rehab. I will say that there are way too many people working in these facilities, even the exclusive ones, who are completely unqualified to work there, or just are not professional enough to do so. And the majority of people I attended rehab with either left before finishing treatment, relapsed, or died due to relapse.

One day during group, which I personally despised, I said that most people in the room would be drinking and/or using again, and that based on sheer numbers, at least one would be dead. I was tarred and feathered for saying that. Yet three people in that group are now dead, and the only one who stayed sober after completing treatment, is I. Almost every person in that room has gone to rehab two or more times, after we all left.

I’m not ignorant. I knew those numbers going in. I didn’t care. I felt I deserved one more chance from myself. And I did.

No more “Smokey Eyes”