This Show Endeavor

my fave show on pbs.

evid she don't, she is a fugly bozo anyway, why is morse attracted to her old horse face??? is he masochistic??

move on dude, ur hot!

I find he sexy

hope he does some movies partly nude

handsome face, mysterious personality....fun

I dream of him mounting my skinny body and ramming his long thick cock into my manhole

we kiss

then he leaves, and goes back to catching crooks who hang out in academia..

I love this show

Strange. Another cop is naned Strange.

Strange Thursday Fancy Trewlove

I don't remember what Grand Maester Qyburn's name is on this show.

I've fallen asleep watching each of the first two episodes. He's cute, Sean Evans—I picture him sometimes as the hero of the novel I'm reading—but the stories go on and on and on.

I think they should cut the stories into two episodes. It becomes hard to follow.

Someone on imdb claims that the song playing in the background during this week's episode "Passenger" at housewarming party is The Rolling Stones "Can't You Hear Me Knocking." I happened to catch a rerun and listened hard and as I suspected, it's not "Cant You Hear Ne Knocking." Any other Stones fans out there, if you catch the episode, listen to the background music at the party and tell me what you think.

Great use of opera music in the opening sequences, and when Morse is listening to music at home. Very stylish show. I generally half watch it on a Friday night, and then watch the repeat with more focus on a Saturday afternoon.

yes, they are comples, like an opera and can require a 2nd viewing

unlike big bang theory or any other piece of shit tv

oop….complex

ide suck Thursday in the backseat of his model T while his frau wife watches and crys her old eyeballs plum out.

Huh?

the slender star is a stud and knows hot to treat a gal's pussy right, he is a wild bitch in bed and beats my butt pussy red...

Disgust people much, r13?

I like this show a lot and I found the Passenger episode a tad confusing.

To me it was confusing with the sister switching. Which one actually worked in the dress shop?

I think it was the dead one, R15, but I wasn't 100% certain, as once again, I fell asleep halfway through.

I thought it was the dead one too but then the other girl who worked there got killed because she saw the live sister who everyone thought was dead. Did she even know the dead sister?

Was it the train spotter or the rail employee who killed the first girl?

The train spotter killed the first girl and kept her name tag.

I loved Inspector Morse, would I like this show?

I never watched Inspector Morse, but I did like Inspector Lewis which this show resembles.

R17 - The friend at the shop was on a bus and saw the alive sister wearing the outfit that the dead sister had bought, and when she ran off the bus to discover the alive sister living where dead sister was, the husband and alive sister killed said friend. (Phew!) I think that's right?!

I barely keep track of the plot because as mentioned upthread, the episodes seem just about 15 minutes too long, and I can get sleepy. But I am in love with that character Endeavour, and I am annoyed that they are giving time to the younger characters this season and taking away some of the time from Endeavour and Thursday.

The actor (Shaun Evans) in real life is way hotter, too, but it makes him seem unattainable when I see him "out of costume"!

The original Morse books and TV episodes based on them with John Thaw were fantastic. Very complex plotting but with a wonderful dry sense of humor. And Thaw was a sexy DILF.

How did he survive the mine field when the other guy didn't?

What ever do you mean, OP, when you refer to strange British names?

Same here, love the show, get lost in the complex plots (but I know I'll rewatch it at some point), get sleepy... Adore Roger Allam but he seems to be sidelined this series and phoning it in. The tango intro last week should've been thrilling and was not, also quite like the old guy who is their boss. The episode a couple seasons ago where he talked about meeting Princess Margaret and marveled about her conversational skills, "Have you come far?" Brilliant.

Don't know why Endeavour has such a tortured relationship with Thursday's daughter. I never liked or watched Morse, does the French girl he's seeing now show up in that series? He has no trouble pulling the girls which seems unrealistic, he's such a prickly loner.

Is this the last season? It seems like it's winding down with all the talk about the consolidation of the police forces.

Also, Endeavour.

Not so much with the opera and the crossword puzzles in this show, from what I've seen.

[quote] How did he survive the mine field when the other guy didn't?

Pure luck. The same way Fancy survived the mine field earlier in the episode.

I enjoy the show, but as the seasons progress, they are changing the lead character's personality in drastic ways. Whereas he started the show as a loner, a bit of an odd-man-out, now suddenly he is shagging a different girl every week, like he's James Bond! Not only is this a far cry from the character that was originally presented, it is also a far-cry from the character he becomes: Inspector Morse.

I would fuck fatty Roger Allam into next week.

Roger was great in La Cage in London. Big balls.

I think this Sunday is the season finale.

My bad, there is another episode next week.

I've already seen the whole season on DVD. the last season should be the one with Morse and Trewlove undercover as husband and wife at a posh boy's school trying to find out about a missing teacher.

*"the last season" should instead read "The last episode of this season"

I have only seen the first two seasons. Funny how Morse was dating that cute black nurse in the 60s when in the 80s and 90s he stuck very close to the Posh And Slightly Horsey English Rose template.

Which characters from Morse have appeared in Endeavour? Apart from Max and Strange? The sicko Don played by Geoffrey Palmer and turned up played Jamie Parker with his tragic daughter Imogen.

I was really confused by this week's episode and I watched it twice. I wish these episodes were 45 minutes each. And WTF did Morse care if Special Branch took over the investigation? The kid was recovering & special branch would find the culprit.

PS - in the early 1970s my father hooked my stereo's radio up to an antenna on our roof. I used to pick up all sorts of things on the radio, including pilots in airplanes talking to air traffic controllers. One of the things I heard was a numbers station. I didn't know what it was at the time. A woman's voice would recite numbers in Spanish. There was a lot of static and some "booping" tones. The tones were deliberate. I tried to make out a pattern of the boops, like did they occur after the same number of seconds, e.g., but couldn't find one. About 6 years ago I was watching The Americans and they pulled out a radio and tuned into a numbers station. Aha! That's when I realized what I'd been hearing back then. I guess it was broadcasting to agents in Cuba or Central America, unless it was spies from Cuba or Central America broadcasting to spies in our country. It was creepy.

That woman who was the language teacher/spy handler and saved Morse’s life played the same character in Foyle’s War but I’m not sure if she was supposed to be the exact same person.

That would be cool if she was thereby connecting those two universes.

She was the head of MI6 in Foyle’s War, stationed in London. She’s just a spy in Oxford in this one, not the Big Cheese. She played a foul mouthed farm woman who trafficked in illegal workers on Scott & Bailey.

Why is Morse so in love with Thursday’s daughter? She’s got a bit of a creepy clown face

I guess they’ll return for another season because they’ve got to find out who killed Fancy.

Fancy got reincarnated to 18th century Cornwall.

I think Shaun Evans is dreamy in an off-beat way.

Oops, never mind. Fancy just died in 18th century Cornwall.

Here's your one chance, Fancy don't let me down

I think Fancy got reincarnated in a different way.

I've seen all the seasons online (through Season 5, that is; 6 is now filming). Evans aged horribly between Seasons 2 and 3, and gets noticeably older-looking every year. I know British men tend to age fast and not well, but I've never seen anything like this. By the end of Season 5 he looks the father of himself in Season 1. And he's not the type to carry it off, either. Lost all his hotness, as far as I'm concerned.

Huh? He looks exactly the same to me.

Fancy’s death was telegraphed pretty loudly.

That gym teacher was pretty hot. And it looked like he got to keep his job even after all the shady shit he pulled.

R30, The older Morse was a loner but enjoyed the ladies. Endeavour also likes them, especially Thursday's daughter. The main differences I've noticed from the earlier seasons have to do with Morse's relationship with Thursday and Strange. Morse was odd man out in the earlier seasons.

R47, maybe it was between Seasons 3 and 4. Anyway, this is him in Season 5.

he is mildly annoying....but the show is amazing, the work that goes in to each episode rivals a feature film, marvelous character actors all … tho his fascination with the old looking daughter of Thursday is odd … she looks like his auntie.

I thought the most recent episode was pretty bad, as if we saw a poorly edited version of the British program - what should be 2 hours was just 90 minutes. There were so many story lines and characters that just got pushed aside... the dead professor's wife; she didn't know about his dealing heroin or hash? How the hell did the murderous matron get the dead professor over to and then dumped down a hole in the ground? Why did she remove his shirt? Where would she have left it for the students to find? The same thing with his wallet... it's just in the leaf covered woods to be found?

The gang war... again, just abrupt. Introduce an underground element to Oxford, just to wipe out every one of them?

Those boys in class, with their questions, ending in "sir?" Was that just bullying? Were they ll high so that's how they behaved? It felt like a rip-off from the movie "Village of the Damned".

I like the show, but man I did not care for this episode at all. And I wish the student with the rifle had at least hit the gym coach in the shoulder... wounding the bastard.

Morse went by "Morse" in Morse, not by his first name. Late in the series it is revealed that he is slightly ashamed of it. That his parents were Quakers and that Quakers (at least at that time) gave their children odd names to signify virtues, etc. I'm just catching this series and wish I had caught on earlier. I liked Morse and Lewis even better because I thought Laurence Fox so sexy. I know he's not conventionally handsome but was nonetheless sexy. I've always liked the tall lanky ones. Beside the point but I thought the Fox character in Lewis was played as a type of Mr Spock, another tall, lanky sexy guy.

I never watched the original Morse but Endeavour is my favorite show on now. Apparently there are a lot of Easter eggs that British viewers catch, references to the original show and to other British shows of the 60s. The obnoxious school boys were probably from a lot of films/tv shows but there is one film in particular made in the early 70s with David Hemmings, still quite gorgeous, playing a school teacher, that has a similar scene. The author of the books had a cameo in each episode and after he died, his photograph appears somewhere.. The names of the all the characters, even the bit players, are references to old series. In one of the early seasons, we meet the father of Laurence Fox's character from Lewis.

The biggest mystery is how the writers are going to square the lack of Thursday in the "subsequent" Morse show. We already know that nothing will come of a romance with the daughter. She wasn't even his greatest lost love, the one who caused him to drop out of university. But Morse on the show Morse mentions a mentor and it wasn't Thursday. So each season of Endeavour is filled with foreboding as everyone expects Thursday to be killed off. This past season, it was all about retiring however now he's lost all that money he lent his brother. Not to mention that bit about his name on the check so next season he'll have to deal with that scandal.

It has been renewed for another season and Roger Allam has signed on. Trewlove won't be coming back (she changes her name to Tenneyson, LOL). I haven't heard about Anton Lesser/Bright. He is brilliant in that role but after teasing us with the big consolidation storyline, I don't see how they *all* end up at the new station and in this last episode, he did say he was retiring.

The weird thing is, this is it re the Morse character. The author stipulated (in his will? in a contract?) that only Shaun Evans is allowed to play the Morse character. Once Evans decides he's done with the role, they can't revive Endeavour or Morse with another actor. No problem, you say, there's a million possible detective characters that can be written? Well just remember that Morse-Lewis-Endeavour have been three of the most popular, highest rated programs on British tv. Not easy to capture lightning in a bottle.

I like the show because of the actors and the production. The plots are the weakest part; I just enjoy the characters so much.

How did Morse figure out it was the matron who killed Ivory? I didnt sense a whole lot of evidence pointing to her. Just, all of a sudden, "It was YOU!"

R53–you should find the film “The Hole” (2001). Fox has a memorable shower scene. He puts the “full” in full frontal.

Also - everyone was wondering where ivory was but nobody was looking for the school kid who was dead. Hadn't he been dead for weeks, but his parents didn't worry they hadn't heard from him?

There are too many threads in the show

Eddie Nero vs Ames

Nero's son at the school

Missing teacher

Dead student nobody knew was missing

Suspicious headmaster's daughter

Headmaster tells daughter "We were in all night!"

Fancy & Trewlove (is she named after Tess Truelov?)

Dead Fancy

Bullets kilked Fancy came from someone else

Stoned, sinister schoolboys threatening a schoolmaster's wife.

Thursday's brother from Quadrophenia ripped him off of all his retirement savings

Thursday might get caught up in a fraud investigation

Morse continues to ogle Thursday's daughter, who looks at him as if she is tripping on acid

Precinct closing. Will Maester Qyburn be back? Will he bring the zombified Mountain with him?

Morse inexplicably shouts "We're all thinking thank Christ it wasn't me!" at lady reporter, who has no reason to say thank Christ it wasn't her.

I do in theory love Endeavor but dear lord how I wish these BBC drama mysteries weren't so fucking SLOW. It's as though I'm watching a great show that I should really love because I do love almost everything about it, but the pace makes it feel like I'm watching it in slow motion, or pausing the show every 2-5 minutes. There's so much scenic/musical padding that just goes on and on and ON with nothing happening at all in most of these detective shows. I adore Lewis as well but that long looooooong opening 5-10 minutes of invariably nothing but slow bucolic Oxford shots and butterflies on flowers and bells ringing and someone tying their shoelaces and someone else riding a bike, etcetera... I can barely make it into the episode most of the time, or have to fast forward to dialogue just to curb the boredom.

Remember in the 80's when Brideshead Revisited first aired? There were news stories about England having massive widespread plumbing and water and sewage problems because everyone in the whole damn country was hanging on the show and all used the toilet during commercial breaks, flushing en masse practically at once. I wonder if the government told BBC to cool it with the charisma in all future productions just to save the country's infrastructure.

[quote]Apparently there are a lot of Easter eggs

The best of which is the very last shot in the very first episode of the very first season.

yes, that was very sweet and well done.

am super piissed they killed off that hot young cop in the last episode.

fukkers!!!!!

R58 prefers The Untouchables

R59, explain what scene you are referring to, please.

Not r59 but it's the last scene in the very first episode (at the time I didn't know it was going to be a series, I thought it was just a one-off). Morse has solved the case so it looks like this police business might work out for him after all. Anyway, the case is finished and Thursday turns to Endeavour and says "Pick me up tomorrow morning then" --I guess it's a thing in England that police underlings pick up their superiors?--and they get in Morse's car which is an old Jag and he looks in the rear view mirror and instead of seeing his face, you see John Thaw's. It was very moving.

Are we sure Thursday is gone?

Thursday’s not gone. He lost his retirement money. He has to go back to work.

Thank you, R64.

I came late to the show and didn't know until later that the actress who plays the news reporter is John Thaw's daughter.

"How I wish these BBC drama mysteries weren't so fucking SLOW"

It's not BBC - it's shown on ITV

If anyone thinks the shows are slow, I don't but others do, try reading Colin Dexter's Morse books.

Does anyone remember, it was at the end of season 2 I think, there was a coda that just showed someone's hand taking a piece of evidence. There had been some Masonic references earlier. Was that ever explained?

Morse's outburst at the funeral reminded me why I liked Lewis better -- Morse took himself too seriously, as alcoholics tend to do.

r64/r59 Here's that scene from the first episode

Thanks r73, get a bit teary watching that and I never watched the original Morse, I just like this show so much.

Can someone explain where the black jag comes from? That clip has Thursday tossing the keys to Morse, saying You drive. Who owns it? Because from then on, Morse is always the driver. In the last episode this season, they actually say that they'll get someone else to drive when Morse is going to be elsewhere. Forgetting the specifics of this clip, I thought Thursday could not drive (not surprising for that time period). And now that I remember, there was another policeman, Jakes? who used to pick up Thursday in the morning and drive.

Okay, getting back to my original question, whose car is that? Isn't it too expensive for a policeman to own?

I know that the series Morse drove a jag and this was just retrofitting but a little explanation would seem to be needed here.

Was that the only time Thursday called him Endeavor?

[quote]Does anyone remember, it was at the end of season 2 I think, there was a coda that just showed someone's hand taking a piece of evidence. There had been some Masonic references earlier. Was that ever explained?

I want to know this, too, r71! We know Morse has a lifelong loathing of Masons. Was it Strange?

Yes, earlier Endeavour had warned Strange about the "funny handshake crowd" and how you have to decide where your loyalties lie.

R74, The car belongs the police, part of their fleet. Later on, in Morse, the red one he drives is his own.

What? The police were supplied with Jaguars in 60s England? Wasn't that kind of expensive?and impractical.

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Didn’t the Mason’s lead to Morse’s getting passed over for promotion in favor of a less qualified officer who was in the club?

The cop-Mason links in the 60s was behind much of the corruption in the Met. Crooks and cops were members if the same lodges and deeply involved in mutual aid, as well as the cops promoting their own.

It is still a problem in the UK, but I am not sure if similar activities exist in the US police.

"What? The police were supplied with Jaguars in 60s England? Wasn't that kind of expensive?and impractical"

The Jaguar was the vehicle of choice for many gangsters/bank robbers - the police had to have them just to keep up in a chase, They were still being used as pursuit vehicles until relatively recently, until the advent of cheaper but faster vehicles like the Ford Cosworth...

Ha, I've never heard that. How funny. In the US, Jags in that era were just thought of as super expensive and very temperamental, both because it was imported.

But were there a lot of high speed police chases?

I don't find Dakota Blue Richards (Shirley Trewlove) very attractive, but she looks better in this series than as the hideous Frankie on Skins. I too, found it odd in the episode where she and Morse go undercover that those boys weren't even reprimanded for thinly veiled rape threats to Trewlove in the woods.

New season tonight. Sean Evans looks like a Monty Python spoof character with that mustache.

Why can’t this show do 2 45 minute episodes instead of 1 90 minute episode? The multiple ridiculous turning of the plot and utter senselessness of how Morse figured it out would seem less far fetched.

Here Morse, we’ve got a present for you! Follow this collection of clues to an allotment and find a radio with a numbers station. Then.....well, I forget.

Thanks, I might've missed that, r86.

He grew a mustache!

I'm not digging the 'stache.

The new guy in charge is HAF!

Boy does he look bad in a mustache. Does Thursday’s daughter have a college education?

I watched it Sunday night and just realized I don’t remember what it was about. Crime & police, obviously, but ....oh yeah, something about missing little girls. I salute the actors plating Morse & Thursday for saying their lines with straight faces.

I don't think so, r91. She had been working in a bank before she ran off.

I love this show. so well done!!! the star is a cutie. all round well done.

I hope these show goes on forever.

Each show is like a great puzzle of a crime movie. Highest standards ive seen on tv. Marvelous...the actors playin Morse and Thursday and most all of the characters are perfection (I do feel the daughter of Thursday is miscast, she looks 38 yrs old or more)

He hot as fuk with that moustache....luv blow him and take hims piss

I hate the dark shirt with the dark jacket.

That children's TV show they're producing is based on an actual show. Any Brits here who remember it?

His boss gets hotter in each episode.

I’m afraid I got hopelessly lost in the plot twists of episode 2. Perhaps less weed.

The accents were kind of thick and they also mumbled a lot.

I binged last night and watched all four episodes. The first two made sense, but it felt as if they stretched the third one out with too much information to make eighty minutes. I got kind of lost in all the detail in episode four.

Are there more episodes to this season? Four were all I found on the PBS Passport website.

I think you watched last season, r101. New Season is currently airing.

I'm a member of PBS, r102, and can watch the entire season on Passport, PBS' streaming service.

[quote] and gets noticeably older-looking every year.

Impossible! How can that be?

[quote]This Show Endeavor

It's Endeavour, with a U. No wonder this thread didn't show up when I googled "datalounge.com endeavour."

And not to mention Strange, OP!

I always enjoy the classical music in each episode. Also the way it loooks, the colours... There's always something about it that I don't like and I can never follow one episode from beginning to end, but I do own the first four seasons on DVD, so there must be something about it I like.

Each episode is such a deep puzzle of complicated plot I iusually watch each episode twice or more. Fun to have a show with so many levels, the one called Harvest with the old tarot card reading lady and the nuke power plant is a fave. loved her.....such emotional deep endings, love it

I think it would be fun to start at the beginning again. Just as soon as I watch today's ep of The Adam Newman Chronicles.

R101, Can you tell us, without it being a spoiler, if they find Fancy's murderer? I'm suspicious of the new boss, Box.

No, I can't tell you without it being a spoiler, r109. What I can tell you is that your question will be answered in episode 4.

R103, I've read about Passport, but still find it confusing. Do you have to give an annual donation of $60 or more to PBS or is it only $5 a month? It seems like PBS is promoting it more as a reward for "sponsors" than a proper subscription service.

I think you can do it either way, r111. I got it because I am a "sustaining" subscriber, which means I pay at least $5 a month.

Someone asked if the Terrence McNally episode were available for streaming a week ago or so. It wasn't then. Now it is. I imagine it's subscriber-only, but here it is:

Thanks, R110. I'll wait until then.

are ther lots of endeavor books? or is these scripts made for tv? I love this how and may it run for long time yes.

it may be dirty, but I love to eat morse's asshole out deep, give it a good cleaning so he can solve crimes quick!

Morse started in a series of books about Inspector Morse by Colin Dexter. These will be about Morse in his later career, though, not his early years.

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Morse's boss, Box, seems too muscular for that era (his short sleeved polo shirts really show off his big biceps), although I am not really complaining. He's very sexy.

While there's been nothing this season as ridiculous as the serial killer whose murders revolved around opera plots, or Morse vs. the tiger in the manor house safari park, there's been no really engaging mystery yet either.

I have to turn on subtitles for this show, or I’d miss about half the dialogue.

The kids' show in the second episode was based on the 1960s Thunderbirds series. It’s on Amazon Prime.

Thanks, r118. I'd read about it somewhere, but couldn't think of the name.

Box is turning me on with his late 60s early 70s swagger. I bet he’s got a big ol bush.

one writer writes these early years of morse? or several? awesome scripts and production. kudos

Are there fanclub meeting where we get the chance to suk on young endeavours prime pussy lips???

God I hope so, ide settle for a quickie toilet suck..

I love this show to pieces but I am so CONFUSED. It's been so long since the last season that I don't remember anything about Fancy. I know I could read up on that but before they've had these mysterious overarching mysteries that never get solved. I just figure that there's always a group of police who are completely corrupt and they'll always be around so just ignore them?

So something about how the last season ended got them all demoted...was it just the new amalgamation of the police services? Why does their new police station look just like the old one? What happened to Morse's Jag? (How was he able to afford one to begin with?? He's had it since he joined) What's the deal with the black Jag they found at the police impound lot?? Thursday's wife is extremely pissed off at him, is it because he lost their savings and couldn't retire? Seems like that happened a long time ago.

This recent episode, so the girl died by accident and the guy was going to cover it up by moving her but his former lover had drained the brake fluid so he was killed as well. What was the deal about the car being cut in half?? so that the puppet guy thought the owner had run down his wife? For some reason everyone at that key party was going to get arrested and those two kids were going into care? Was the young girl really setting those fires?

Okay, clearly this show is leaps and bounds above me. I just know that I love the actors (so great to see Anton Lesser) and I'll rewatch this season and the last, to try and pick up all I've m issed.

Did you catch that the dark-haired mother of the two children was Sophie Winkleman?

They need to be careful or it will turn into Father Brown Mysteries where the local police are goofballs who are always arresting the wrong person.

[quote]It's been so long since the last season that I don't remember anything about Fancy.

Same here. Did we watch the last season two years ago (in the US)?

George Fancy was killed in a shootout at billiards hall in the same episode that Morse and Trewlove posed as a couple at the boys' school. It turned out that heroin was being brought on campus. And the gun that killed Fancy was found on the scene, so the killer got away. Fancy was in love with Trewlove and was not happy about Morse and Trewlove posing as a married couple.

I'm at a loss as to why Thursday would be demoted over Fancy's death.

I'm guessing that the gang shootout might have had something to do with increased drug trafficking in the Thames Valley.

And Strange was friendly with Fancy, so that might be why he's persisted in following leads.

[quote]I'm at a loss as to why Thursday would be demoted over Fancy's death.

Internecine warfare is par for the course on these shows. Just another way to inject conflict, a.k.a. "shake things up."

I hate it. Nothing bored me more on The Good Wife, for example, than the endless jockeying over who owned the law firm, and just how much of it they owned/had votes for. Similar to Y&R and Guiding Light in daytime drama. I ended up quitting GL over the 900th iteration what I called "Spaulding, Spaulding, who's got the Spaulding?"

The early power struggles on the Good Wife were funny, particularly waking the aged partner from his naps so he could cast the deciding vote. They went to that well too often, though. StartTV has been running GW at night. I watch, but mute when the power struggles start up.

Up in r127, I meant to type that the gun that killed Fancy had [italic]not[/italic] been found at the scene, meaning the killer got away.

R124, since you posted the spoilers, I will say that I kind of hated the ,,Apollo" episode. The puppetry was not integral to the plot. It was just set dressing. As far as the plot was concerned, it could have been any business. I thought when they mentioned that the one character had been a Punch and Judy performer and that they are called "professor" that the plot was going to go somewhere interesting but it went nowhere.

It is also a cliche to have two unrelated incidents, one being an accident rather than a murder. It certainly was unwise to have it immediately after ,,Pylon" where the plot involved two separate incidents: an accident and a child porn abduction. I really think the show is getting to be a bit paint-by-numbers and the writers are more interested in inserting unnecessary period details than creating compelling plots.

[quote],,Apollo"

[quote],,Pylon"

In which country do people write quotation marks this way?

Spain and other Spanish-speaking countries, r132

R132, Germany. I have a German keyboard for work purposes and it is the default. Sorry.

Never mind my comment at r133. Please.

I'm sorry r131, I forgot that it's not broadcast on the same schedule everywhere. It's already been shown in the UK, right? so I always think we are the last to see it but even PBS schedules are different depending on what part of the country you live in.

So I've already forgotten why the blonde woman (one of three nearly identical looking blonde women in the show, sheesh.) shot the puppet guy. That was an unnecessary twist. I didn't think this episode was well written/plotted. Too much exposition at the end and if I can see plot holes then you know it's bad. Shame because I love the show.

Here's a blog that reviews the show episodes and explains some of the plot points that have been forgotten and also points out the ones that don't make sense. Link is to the last episode of last season which has a link to this season at the end.

I didn't know Roger Allam was supposed to be leaving the show after series 5.

[quote] I'm suspicious of the new boss, Box.

Well duh. They practically have him twirling an imaginary handle bar mustache

[quote] the writers are more interested in inserting unnecessary period details than creating compelling plots.

This.

I’m American but I remember the Thunderbirds, which is odd because Wikipedia says Lew Grade was unable to get the show on US TV. Maybe I saw it in NY on Independent channel 9 or 11. Both used to show British tv shows like the Two Ronnies, Two’s Company, Kelly Monteith, Dave Allen, Dr Who (Tom Baker) and Open All Hours. Unfortunately, only the loathsome Benny Hill caught on here.

I remember thinking Thunderbirds was one of the weirdest shows I’d ever come across.. I didn’t know it wasn’t American. I thought whoever came up with it was really, really high.

You probably remember Fireball Xl5 as Thunderbirds. It did run on NBC.

Oh, I remember seeing the show that Three’s Company was based on, Man About the House. Then they got married and had a kid and it was called Robin’s Nest.

Upstairs Downstairs was a huge hit in NY, as was Monty Python. Our two independent channels figured that if the locals would watch those shows, then they should invest in some British tv, which was very cheap at the time even compared to old US rerun shows in syndication. They kicked off by showing Upstairs Downstairs on the NY commercial tv stations after the entire series had finished being run on PBS twice. Same with I Claudius & Python. Apparently our local PBS station used to contract with BBC, ITV & LW for two showings of the series they aired. After that, the series’ went back on the market. They also re-aired the original B&W Forsyte Saga. I was so glad because I’d only seen the show from the middle to the end on PBS. Now, I could see the whole series. I thought Irene was so beautiful, but the “aging” makeup on that show just looked as if they’d put white lipstick on everyone, and ashes on their cheeks. I loved Susan Hampshire’s Fleur. I guess it would be considered overacting today ,but the whole show was theatrical in those days.

All right, I’ll stop now.

It’s really quite simple. The accidental death that turned out to be a murder turned out to be an accident after all. The accidental death that did not appear to be a murder was actually a murder, but the killer got the wrong guy. The killer’s obvious suicide turned out to be another murder. Clear?

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Oh, no! Thursday's bent!

There was mention of interviewing a Rhodes Scholar named Clinton. Will this Clinton figure into future plots?

So this is how they are going to solve the 'Morse never mentioned Thursday' dilemma? Christ on a bicycle. Forget the Morse series! Endeavour is better on so many levels. Why ruin it by twisting a main character to fit something totally out of character. I hate this.

It's also ridiculous having Strange and Bright pop up in isolated scenes, Strange hinting dire warnings and Bright on about his wife who has been barely mentioned previously. Anton Lesser is an amazing actor, his scenes are very moving but ffs, get them all back together.

All these years I've expected for Thursday to get killed off in the last episode of each season. Now it's probably going to be some horrid redemption death. Ugh.

The village constable was quite dishy.

Clinton is a reference to Bill Clinton who won a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford.

I missed that reference. Clinton was in Oxford n 1968-70.

I thought the local policeman was sketchy, as was the postman. Lots of 'significant ' looks that didn't amount to anythi ng. It's like neither the actors nor the director knew who was going to be the guilty person so everyone behaved suspiciously.

I can’t understand half the shit that comes out of Box’s mouth.

Yeah but he's hot so it's okay

love shaun evans, ide suk his puss out thru a straw...….

r152 Bye, PBS.

may it run till poor morse gets some cock and can smile like a jackass eating barb wire (aka, janet Jackson)

Tonight is the last episode. Will we get an answer to Fancy's death, thanks to Strange's sleuthing? More importantly, will Thursday come to his senses and cut out the crap?

I am weeping. Mary! A happy ending to my favorite series.

I'm glad they decided that (future) Morse not mentioning Thursday wasn't necessary to tie up.

Shaun Evans looks just like a young version of my late father. It’s eerie to watch.

Did you guys stateside get to see Life on Mars??

I think so. People knew about it and the sequel. Also there was a American version which did not do well.

NOT the end! There will be a 7th series.

The collapsing building was based on a real life incident called Ronan Point.

I hope it’s more than 4 episodes.

Daft as it sounds it was a program in the UK called cracker that inspired me to become a profiler, we've had a lot of great crime shows, your special victims, criminal Minds and Intent are outstanding without a doubt

omg, Cracker was phenomenal. I'd heard about it for years before I watched it and then I binged the whole series in a week. I can't describe what was so fascinating...the cast? the acting? the writing? the plots? All of the above? It was intense.

Did anyone else notice that among the background music in the last episode - Degüello - was an instrumental version of 'All We Do' by Oh Wonder, which is the theme song to "Unforgotten"?

Apparently 'All We Do' is a popular piece of music.

Have we met John Thaw era Morse's mentor McNutt?

Love the show