Thai soccer team alive after 9 days lost in cave PART 5

Well, It's Tuesday, 5:30 in the morning there right now, so I'm betting they've resumed their rescue operations.

Is it raining hard?

It’s not raining anymore. Instead, small snowflakes are falling gently from the heavens above...

Doctor is praised.

He changed their mind to bring out the weakest first. The shitty thai govt wanted to bring out the strongest first. so fucking stupid. seriously.

Boys may have caught bat shit disease. That' s why they had to be quarantined.

Wasn’t Tragic Coach the weakest of them all?

Are there any DLers in Thailand? Any Thais?

Potentially deadly histoplasmosis — a lung infection also known as “cave disease” and “spelunker’s lung” caused by breathing in spores from animal waste — is one of several illnesses that medical experts are worried the 12 boys and their coach could have contracted while trapped deep in the subterranean system.

“These are spores that reside frequently in caves and are often found in the excretions of bats,” Dr. Paul Auerbach, a professor of emergency medicine at California’s Stanford University, told CTV News.

For healthy people, cave disease just causes a bit of a fever and a cough — but those with compromised immune systems may start coughing up blood and could die if it goes untreated and spreads through the body, he said.

The eight boys already evacuated from the cave over the weekend are being held in isolation — and aren’t even allowed to hug their parents — as doctors assess them for histoplasmosis and other conditions.

“But what we’re most concerned with is infections. There are all kinds of diseases in the cave, from bats, from dirty water. Everything in there is very dirty.”

The boys, who got stuck inside the cave when it flooded June 23, survived until they were found nine days later only by drinking water that dripped off the stalactites hanging above them.

Guano disease R5

well, it's quite obvious the coach isn't the sickest! The MD checked everyone before the rescue. gawd...you guys believe trash.

[quote] caused by breathing in spores from animal waste

I blame Pee-Pat (aka Lid #4).

[quote] caused by breathing in spores from animal waste

I blame Pee-Pat (aka Kid #4).

After more than two weeks inside the flooded Tham Luang cave complex, the boys were promised meals of KFC as well as lighter schoolwork by teachers and classmates, according to USA Today.

The principal of Mae Sai Prasitsart School, which six of the 12 boys attend, said educators will do everything possible to ensure the boys can ease back into their regular lives.

“We will treat them positively, and not put the blame on them for anything,” Kanet Pongsuwan told the news outlet. “They were the victims of a disaster.”

Kanet said the boys, all members of the Wild Boars soccer team, will receive extra tutoring to catch them up on their studies since going missing June 23 inside the labyrinthine complex in northern Thailand. The boys also won’t have to take exams scheduled for next week.

“We will not push them too hard on their studies,” the principal said, adding that the boys will be treated as disaster victims and given psychological evaluations.

“We’re going to eat fried chicken at KFC,” said Poowadet Khamngern, a 14-year-old who plays on the Wild Boars.

Waranchit Kankaew, 14, who is also on the Wild Boars and close pals with three of the players, promised to “do everything as normal.”

“We will go to lunch together, we will play football together,” he said.

Waranchit said exploring the dark, dangerous cave system wasn’t out of the ordinary.

“It’s our cave, it’s Mae Si’s cave,” he said, referring to the district in which the cave is located. “We need to explore it.”

The teen said he’s been inside the cave four times and even got lost once for about 30 minutes.

But he doesn’t plan on returning.

“No thanks,” Waranchit said.

The 12 young athletes, ages 11 to 16, and their 25-year-old coach were found safe a week ago, huddled on a rocky shelf 2½ miles deep in the cave.

A technology teacher at the school, which has about 2,800 students, said the group of boys were known to be adventurous.

“They are explorer kids,” said Suwicha Jitbarn, who taught one of the trapped boys, Pheeraphat Somphandjai, 16. “They like sports, outdoor activity.”

Jitbarn said the teen’s parents plan to send him off to a monastery once he’s freed.

“They prayed and made an offer that if he was released, he will go to a monastery for a month,” he said. “It is part of our Buddhist beliefs [in Thailand] and it will also help him to focus and clear his mind.”

Unless they're walking around caked in bat shit, there's no danger of anyone catching histoplasmosis. It can't be transmitted.

[quote]Pheeraphat Somphandjai

Pronounced "fear of fat"; obviously the Datalounger of the group.

R16 They have the coolest names. Yes including Pipat!

A lot of the women seem to have first names that include "Porn". Probably sounds fine to them but it always takes me a little aback.

[quote] Poowadet Khamngern

He must be related to Pee-Pat, probably a second cousin.

R18 one of the boys is called Pornchai.

I just realized they must have been in the pitch dark ,ost of the time. Wow, I think I definitely would be scarred for life if that happened to me.

R21 What the coach must have done to keep their spirits up in the dark. Especially the 9 days before they knew they were going to be rescued. He being the adult and all.

That the kids are pretty healthy and were good humored in their letters speak volumes of his leadership and resourcefulness. Can't wait to hear the stories of this amazing man.

Porn in a name means blessed by Buddha or close to that. Chai means male depending on tone. Pornchai would mean boy blessed by Buddha. Thai names like Native American names usually are a short saying.

They're given a nickname at birth as a way to confuse the demons who are always on the lookout for fresh souls, but who only have access to official names apparently. The nicknames usually relate to some physical characteristic, birth order or, increasingly, random English words.

It's a bit disconcerting in a professional setting to have to address people as Moo (pig), a Bum (dimple), a Poo (crab), Coke, Vanilla, and Detroit.

Btw, porn means blessing, but as there's no R in the language it just serves to make the "O" sound longer.

Soon “Poon”, R25?

Moo should be a cow, not a pig. Sad.

What does “Korn” mean in Thai?

When i was teaching in Thailand I had a student named Turd. It was his first full name too. I told him to change it before coming to the USA.

R28, I had a Turkish professor named Mr. Kunt!

Lots of English folks with surname "cummings"

Dying laughing at r28 and r29.

I knew a gal named Apiporn.

My favorite E-Sarn singer is Porksak Sangsaen.

The internet is for Mr Porn.

They're saying the caves are starting to flood and it's raining. Can't tell if it's mostly media hype or if conditions have really worsened in the past few hours.

So they were promised KFC ? Is that a big fucking deal there ?

Gee, I hope those little shits at least got to sign their name on the cave wall which is what they originally set out to do.

So no words or shirtless pic of hunky Matt yet ? That’s the only reason I hang around this thread now that the suspense and danger is gone.

It’s Thai style KFC, with hints of lemongrass and kaffir lime leaves.

The American fast food places are considered up town for the Thai. On a very special occasion they get to eat at KFC aka Ku-Tuc-Ie.

i'm sure after everyone is safely out, they will focus on the rescue divers. fingers crossed.

[quote] So no words or shirtless pic of hunky Matt yet ?

Damon?

They must have difficulty searching for internet porn in Thailand if every next person is named Porn ?

R43 Damon can only wish anyone desire his flabby bod. Any proof he’s even in Thailand ?

Other contributions aren't getting as much attention. The US sent a team of 17 Air Force rescue specialists based on the Japanese island of Okinawa along with support staff.

A six-man Chinese cave rescue team experts arrived last Friday. They brought an underwater robot, diving equipment and three-dimensional imager.

Ben Reymenants (twitter linked below) also has been helping, he owns a diving school in phuket.

Did Elon and his sub even arrive in Thailand or it’s all talk with this guy ?

I hope they get them out safely, before I go to sleep at midnight. It'll be noon there and maybe they can wrap things up. I don't want anyone else to die.

I once had a Thai co-worker named Pornchai, who FYI was female.

And if the waters in the cave are rising, I hope they're already on their way to get the last five out, because rising waters really could put a stop to all the good news. It could create dangerous currents in the water or shrink or flood the air pockets along the route, even if it doesn't flood the spot where the kids were stranded. If waters rise that means that at least they're going to need more air tanks to make the trip, and one of the things that's making this rescue so slow and painstaking is the need for multiple air tanks en route. Multiple tanks have to be placed along the cave for a rescue attempt to be made, and remember that every tank that's placed in the cave means that someone risked their fucking life to get it there.

If the water is rising that means that not only is the trip in to rescue the kids more dangerous than ever, it means that every single tank put in the cave is there because of a level of courage that the average Datalounger can't even conceive.

R45, I believe Damon left when all non-essential personnel were cleared out of the cave area, but I’m only basing that on what was mentioned here on DL.

[quote] Did Elon and his sub even arrive in Thailand or it’s all talk with this guy ?

It did. In a symbolic gesture of kindness and goodwill, he’s giving it to the dead Navy Seal’s widow so that she can go tubing inside of it down the Mekong River.

Phuket and Porn. What a sexual sounding language.

I'm a pretty adventurous person, been SCUBA diving and kayaking in iceberg graveyards and all that, but I've never wanted to take up caving.

After following this story, I have definitely learned to respect the dangers of the deep! In fact, I'm never entering a cave again, unless they have a lit walkway and docents!

R53, do they have any moose docents for caves?

In fact, I'll ask anyone left on the thread:

Do you want to visit caves after learning everything you've learned about caves and caving from this story, or are you going to avoid caves for the rest of your life? Or shriek and clutch your pearls at the very mention of visiting Carlsbad Caverns?

I'm even afraid to go into my man cave now!

I learned scuba diving in Krabi, Thailand, from a bunch of hot English guys.

While we were moving the air tanks, I accidentally engaged one of the levers and gave one of them a strong blast of air in the crotch. I still cringe thinking about it.

R50 No pic. Damon wasn’t there

Krabi Crabby Crappy

I learned to dive in Krabi too.

Can someone explain what’s a refresher ?

[Quote]I'm never entering a cave again, unless they have a lit walkway and[bold] docents![/bold]

I first read that as "donuts."

I've admitted previously to having no experience or aptitude with children. I'm 56, and I never had nieces or nephews. But when the first group of boys were rescued, I couldn't stop crying. So I guess my heart isn't completely dead.

R55, I'm drawn to them while, at the same time, terrified. I couldn't be a true spelunker. I'd only be able to handle to classic tourist attraction caves. Years ago, I saw this amazing documentary, in 3D, exploring a cave full of Pleistocene artwork. It was mesmerizing.

Not being told if your kids are out or not ? American parents wouldn’t stand for that!

American parents in front of the hospital:

Thai parents can't object. The police will pick them up.

American parents would be calling their lawyers, elected officials, and Hollywood publicists looking to cash in on a big story if they weren't told whether their kids were rescued or not. And that's the difference between a tradition of democracy and authoritarianism.

There's no rational reason to pull this shit, if no information is being released it's because some official is feeling threatened or insecure, not because there's a valid reason to keep information from the families and the public.

Did anyone giggle when they shield the kids from the press with big umbrellas ?

Thai are docile, wonder how they fare in war ?

Weren’t they the only country that surrendered to the Japs without a fight during WW2 ?

Get a Thai angry with you and just see how docile he is.

R69, Thais are the only country in Southeast Asia who have never been colonized by a larger empire

I meant Thailand/Siam^

R71 Becoz they surrendered and kow tow. Cowards

[quote]Pheeraphat Somphandjai - Pronounced "fear of fat"; obviously the Datalounger of the group.

More like pee-lah-pahd.

Buddhists are meek and docile in nature

They are only nice to your face..."ka, ka," and then talk shit behind your back or in front of you in thai.

And the rain goes pit pitty pat....

No, this is all over the world. Parents have a right to know where their kids are. This is fucked up.

Yes, no official info is being released but lots of cops selling info to rags. They are all printing names and pictures of the boys who came out of cave. Gee...who told them???

Meanwhile 1 hour ago....aren’t you a bit late, Elon ?

Also, the Thai governor was fired just a few days ago...but he keeps his cave rescue gig.

R78 It’s not okay. Unless the parents planning to adopt them out for cash

Elon Musk should be ashamed to pull this publicity-mongering useless shit. He should have done what Damon did, buy stuff that might be useful to the rescue effort, and keep his mouth shut.

whoever is not releasing info is because of the power and control they are getting from it. The whole world gets to see who is in charge.

Did you see that ridiculous contraption of his? so fucking bulky! with a tank strapped to the side, how is it gonna pass through? and the kids are traumatized enough...and you want them to get into that claustrophobic thing. What a genius!

Fucking asshole and his fucking ego.

R82 is Amber H.

The parents may want to sell them to a go go bar now that they realize they are seen as being so valuable.

R83. it's gotta be that shitty thai gov who was just fired. trying to hang on to every single bit of power he has.

Pedos were seen surrounding the area

Trump would never let this happen to the parents and young kids

R79 watch them use it and then when a kid dies after it careens into a wall for no reason, Elon will blame "operator error".

[quote] it. He should have done what Damon did, buy stuff that might be useful to the rescue effort, and keep his mouth shut.

Precisely.

Paul Manafort, Rosie O'Donnell, Rob Ford's ghost, Lea DeLaria, and that Easter Island-headed guy from Big Brother have never been convicted in a court of law, R88.

Take it back!

So the Matt troll can’t provide a single pic as proof ? Do it soon or it’s an FF for you.

Maybe the parents made a pact that they would wait until all the boys were out before they knew about their son. It would be kind of shitty to be all happy. while other parents were in agony, This seems like a decent way to handle it.

But the twist is, the pact was with the devil. The Thai devil. Now the boys' first born sons are promised to Satan.

Musks actions have creeped the hell out of me. Instead of doing something useful, like shipping in a planeload of compressed air tanks, oxygen, and rebreathers, he's sought publicity and tried to prove he's smarter than all the experts who are actually rescuing the kids.

Of course Musk has proven the opposite, the experts are getting the kids out with old-fashioned diving and caving techniques, while his inventions have been widely mocked for being useless self-indulgences. I mean, a little submarine that will feel like a coffin from the inside and which is too rigid to get through confined spaces? Genius!

R95 There’s no Satan in Buddhism

Au contraire, r57, there is indeed one.

the boy who is promised to a monastery is going to be surprised. I don't understand why they get to offer him up, why don't they offer themselves up

I know some boys molested by Buddhist monks

R99, The coach was a monk, too. Those kids are going to be coping with emotional trauma, despite being 'saved'. A stint as a monk will be helpful in dealing with the trauma and emotions.

Do they become celibate as monks ?

A stint as a monk will help them increase their skills at playing video games. Temples in Thailand are hardly holy places.

They will be trained as ninja assassins and will use their newfound celebrity status to get invites to fancy dress parties where they can retrieve the hidden USB drive from th underground vault, while the party goers are distracted above.

That's for sure., r103 Thai monks are about as devout as catholic priests.

R15: No one ever said histoplasmosis is contagious. The boys are being isolated because their immune systems are likely compromised after weeks of malnourishment, stress, and exposure. Isolating the boys isn't about their contagion to others, it's about preventing them from picking up opportunistic infections that a healthy immune system could fight, but theirs cannot.

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4x4x4. Coach will spend an extra night alone.

someone said he wasn't a monk, just raised by monks.

The Doctor (will be played in movie by Clooney)

The Coach has been giving all the food they had to the kids, including the food brought in recently.

If the coach was in temple prior to being 20 years old he was a novice. Temples in Thailand often function as orphanages or poor houses for men over 20. If you have no where else to go you become a monk or novice.

Coach should be prosecuted if not sued by parents for the anguish he has caused

Make coach sell his body to pay compensation

he went into the temple when he was orphaned at 10. he left when he was 20

Leave coach in the cave without food. Let him rot there.

Fuck off you dimwitted troll, R112.

I feel like the coach is overridden with guilt. He probably will be a real monk now and live the rest of his life in the monastery.

Not gonna lie R107. I am quite happy about this. He deserves it frankly.

rThe coach wasn’t a Buddhist monk, he was a Hare Krishna

I hope one of the divers will stay with the coach. He’s weak already, and it would suck to be there all alone. He needs someone to cuddle with after this ordeal.

Coach should be given the KFC chicken bones.

I would hope that they would bring out the coach with the last 4 boys.

[quote] He needs someone to cuddle with after this ordeal

Perhaps Matt Damon can comfort him. According to the second thread:

[quote] Matt Damon is personally going down there, dressed as the Kuan Yin female Buddha herself, to entertain the troops!

Obviously a joke.

When does the next rescue attempt begin?

Most of the kids are stateless — Akha, Shan, Lahu, and Lua. They're not Buddhist. They're from animist tribes, hence the pigs and chickens being sacrificed to appease the cave's spirit. That's also why it would never occur to them to blame the coach for something that the cave decided to do.

The coach's parents were Burmese refugees, so he's also stateless.

soon we hope. it was around this time when they started the last one

can the blame the coach trolls go away? he deserves KFC too

Some of the boys had Buddhist necklaces. I suspect some are Buddhist. And Coach has a Thai name.

R127, just block them...it makes the thread much more enjoyable.

I’m surprised that our resident DL rice queen pedophiles haven’t taken up a collection for the trapped Thai tykes...

Coach is worse than Trump

I wish they would interrupt trump and tell us the last of the team has been brought out. Or maybe they could interrupt trump to tell everyone that children are suffering because they lost their parents.

If the coach has really been giving all his share of food to the kids, he's probably feeling life-threatening feelings of guilt.

If he gets out, his best bet is probably to go back to the monestary for a while, he certainly won't be able to just go back to his job. He could certainly do worse than a spell in a monestary, doing simple work, meditating, and thinking the whole mess over. And for something like this, Bhuddist meditation and detachment is probably more healing than psychotherapy. I mean what can therapy offer? Shit happened!

R109 the doctor will be played by Noah Wiley

Not letting parents know if kids are out or not. Worse than Trump

I think the kids could be in bad shape but honestly, I think the coach could be worse...he did a very bad thing and he must feel very guilty. Guilt makes you sick.

Who give a shit about the coach? Fuck this cunt. He will be lucky if they don't prosecute him, a man died trying to safe his dumb ass. yes, he should feel guilty. It was his bad judgement. who the fuck goes so far in the cave anyways and to breath in all that bat poop and who knows what else....gross!

and thai govt is utterly useless and shitty. not letting parents know if they're kids are out? What kind of BS is this?

Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, who this weekend announced he had directed a team of engineers to build a “tiny, kid-size submarine” (really more of an air-filled metal box) to help extract the 12 boys and coach of Thai soccer team Wild Boars stranded in the flooded Tham Luang cave complex for weeks, is apparently on site in northern Thailand.

According to a series of Instagram and Twitter posts, Musk has in fact personally entered the cave system to deliver the completed capsule.

“Just returned from Cave 3,” Musk wrote on Twitter. “Mini-sub is ready if needed. It is made of rocket parts & named Wild Boar after kids’ soccer team. Leaving here in case it may be useful in the future. "

Good on Elon

Nobody needs you Elon. Fuck off! Don't you have other shit to do? Like going to mars? Please jet off and don't come back. He must be a insufferable cunt to be around.

Elon would have been more use if he'd just brought a truck full of oxygen tanks, and another full of KFC.

Elon, re-defining narcissism. Thinking R138 had surely linked to a PARODY post, I just looked at his Twitter account. Would they actually let him in the cave? When even high ranking politicians kept their distance so as not to interfere? Him doing this super creeps me out. Hope it is not some kind of bad omen.

Thailand is so beautiful? What about saluting the courage of the boys and divers? Praying for the rest to exit safely? Nope, just navel gazing. Incredible.

Elon has always weirded me out and his treatment of women reveals a lot about his character, as does this.

sorry but Thailand is not beautiful. It is trash. maybe 5% is pretty.

Thailand was beautiful in 1977. Now way overbuilt and polluted.

[quote]“Just returned from Cave 3,” Musk wrote on Twitter. “Mini-sub is ready if needed. It is made of rocket parts & named Wild Boar after kids’ soccer team. Leaving here in case it may be useful in the future."

I'm sure he'll be blowing many a load thinking of this moment. What a shitbag.

I agree R144! Myanmar is where it’s at bitches!!!!!

^ Aung San Suu Kyi is prime minister, and responsible for a great deal of shit in Myanmar

I think the lack of communication with the press has more to do with the fact that this is a military operation. Military commanders everywhere don't generally keep the press abreast of their every move. Just a guess.

I hate the people who keep blaming the coach. They wouldn't be alive if he hadn't found a safe place inside the cave in the first place. He's survived his own horrors. The kids and their parents don't blame him, so that's all I need to know. The last I read, they'll be bringing the remaining kids out tonight, but leaving the coach for another day. I feel so horribly for him. I swear, I would pay his way to the US and look after him to the end of my days (and leave him everything). And I wouldn't expect anything in return. A good man is hard to find.

R149 And a hard man I’d good to find. Very hard moreso.

They surely won't leave him for another 24 hours in the cave!!! I'm already worried enough about his state of mind. Even if there are other people staying with him now, that's just too cruel.

I don’t mind being left behind another night if Matt the diver can accompany me

I love my hot couch, and the couch haters need to just rack off and leave him alone......mmmm hot couch

R149 don’t worry the bloodthirsty types here don’t represent the people of Thailand, who don’t seem like punishing the coach is something they’d do. The parents wrote to him to thank him for keeping their sons safe and alive.

He can always go live with the monks again if things get too rough

[quote]4x4x4. Coach will spend an extra night alone.

Link, please.

Elon Musk sent in an audiobook of autobiography for the coach so he can derive life lessons and perhaps even inspiration from it while he awaits rescue.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[quote] A good man is hard to find.

I think Matt Damon is a good man. His wife is lucky to have him.

Jesus, shut up about god damn Matt Damon.

Matt Damon troll = Chubby Chaser

[quote] The last I read, they'll be bringing the remaining kids out tonight, but leaving the coach for another day.

Where did you read this?

Matt Damon troll = Voluptuous Woman Chaser

Has Matt released a statement yet? I am looking forward to hearing about what must have been a crazy stressful time for him. I hope he does something nice for himself once this is all over.

[quote] Matt Damon troll = Voluptuous Woman Chaser

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[quote]Authorities would not make any guarantees, but the next operation is scheduled to begin at 4pm local time.

Now we aren't going to know when we wake up in the morning! We'll have to wait until afternoon. :-(

Media diversion

The Thai authorities are just prolonging this all and milking it for ratings and webclicks.

Often have we seen examples of the "pointless bitchery" on the DL banner here. R168 is the best of "steaming pile" I have seen yet. Congratulations r168! Don't forget to wipe back to front!

R161 I just posted a ilink at R157.

รักคุณเช่นกัน, R169! โยนตัวเองลงในกองไฟ, ผู้หญิงเลว

Ah Ok thanks. It's all 5 according to the BBC and the Guardian.

I just looked up Baby Jessica and that was 58 hours start to finish. That was ideal for American attention spans.

Translation please R171?

R174. Essentially, something like, “Love you as well, [R169]! Throw yourself into the fire, bitch.”

Whoever said the disease that killed the Coach's family was probably AIDS was wrong. Whatever it was it sounded like an epidemic that suddenly swept the whole village he grew up in.

[quote] Known to friends as ‘Ake’, Ekkapol grew up in a small village in North Thailand with his family. But in 2003, when he was only 10, a disease swept through the village, killing his mother, father, and seven-year-old brother.

I am so afraid that even if he makes it out, things are going to be very difficult for him for a long time. He definitely doesn't look like that currently in the cave after losing so much weight. Hopefully the boys and the families can keep him going.

[quote] [R174]. Essentially, something like, “Love you as well, [[R169]]! Throw yourself into the fire, bitch.”

R175 Um thanks? Who should throw oneself in the fire (grease I assume, this being DL), me or r168?

“But with Ekkapol having been a monk and teaching the boys how to meditate, even when their torches went out and they were surrounded by bats, they would never be scared.”

For those wondering if the caves were batty!

[quote] Matt Damon troll = Voluptuous Woman Chaser

I don't get this. Please explain.

I doubt it, R177. Thai people are very forgiving and understand that he made a not intentionally malicious mistake.

He has more to worry about from angry American twitter users halfway across the globe, calling for his head.

What a good guy. I hope he gets out and back to health. If the boys really love him as much as is purported, him dying in there will fuck them up more than anything. On top of everything else, they’ll add survivors guilt. #teamAke

Maybe Elon Musk will give him a Tesla!

His upbringing at the Buddhist temple has helped him and the boys deal with being trapped. He taught them how to meditate. He also gave their meager rations to the boys before they were found.

R180, ask the Matt Damon/Womanly Ass Troll.

[quote]Maybe Uncle Musk will give him a Tesla!

Fixed it.

When you go through hard times together, you develop a bond. These boys and their coach will be responsible to and for one another for the rest of their lives.

This goes beyond Buddhism, forget fatuous American tweets.

JFC, r184 he wouldn't have needed to teach them shit if his lack of judgement hadn't put them in there in the first place. There are only a few people here who want him strung up by the balls. The rest of us, myself included, don't see a problem with pointing out his irresponsible decision cost a man his life. Going so far the other way to lionize someone who is responsible only serves to blunt others to the dangers of these situations.

Look at all the Everest threads where people place blame according to emotions, or how compelling a narrative it is, instead of on leaders' judgement errors. The moral hazard in this era is out of control.

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Boys got serious lung infections, on IV drips. Given rabies shots in hospital.

Link, R189?

I guess I haven’t been following along. The parents called him to go find the kids?

[quote]They left their bikes at the entrance and descended deep into the cave. The sign nearby warning that venturing inside during the wet season was dangerous because of the risk of sudden flooding meant little — this was a place they knew and loved.

[quote]They were a motley mob — hill tribe lads, Shan, Lahu and Lua, plus a couple of Lanna Thai (boys from the north) — on a boys’ own adventure. But their little journey of exploration was badly timed. A torrential downpour, hardly surprising at this time of year — rudu fon (rainy season) — has left them in a dire predicament.

[quote]Family members raised the alarm later that day. Where were they?

[quote]Their parents’ concern drove their coach 25-year-old Ekapol Jantawong, a stateless orphan who shared their love of football, to the cave. Near the entrance, he found their bikes, a discovery that meant he had to go deep inside to try to locate them and bring them back.

[quote]Ekapol’s role in this gripping tale of misadventure has been subject to intense scrutiny in the Thai press (and criticism on social media), but there seems little doubt he has played a substantial role in helping the boys to survive.

[quote]“When he was a boy he became a monk and studied while he lived in the temple (in Lamphun, several hours south); his parents were Burmese but had died, so he is a stateless person. He liked to do meditation and pray,” Am Sandford, a fixer for news teams at the scene said on Friday.

[quote]“He moved to Mae Sai (in Chiang Rai, near the cave) to stay with his grandmother. He loved to play football when he was a little boy. And he met many hill tribe kids on the Thai-Myanmar border. He felt they are like him — poor and with no opportunity to play football.

[quote]“He formed the football team with the main coach three years ago. The kids that joined the Moo Pa (literally “forest pigs”) team are mostly hill tribe. He loved all the 12 kids in the team as though they were his own sons. On Facebook or social media, he always posted stuff about the activities he did with the boys.”

So....the coach is totally innocent of leading the boys into the cave? Well, that totally changes the narrative and media need to retract all the lies

Maybe R189 was referring to this article? It was just posted a few minutes ago.

[quote]All eight are said to be recovering well in hospital, where they have been given IV drips, vitimin B1 and vaccines against a swath of diseases, including rabies. Their blood is also undergoing tests.

[quote]But X-rays of two of the Wild Boar Academy team members’s lungs have revealed ‘irregularities’, officials say, which could indicate the onset of pneumonia. Some have high levels of white blood cells - also suggesting infection. Another is being treated for cuts and abrasions.

[quote]Doctors are awaiting the return of blood test results from Bangkok.

[quote]Public Health Permanent Secretary Dr Jetsada Chokedamrongsuk says the boys were all suffering low body temperatures after their two-week ordeal trapped on a muddy ledge in the flooded caves. Some also had low pulse rates.

[quote]They had to be gently warmed up to bring their core body temperatures back to normal. Those with low heart rates have also recovered.

[quote]Dr Chokedamrongsuk said the second batch of boys were stronger than the first four. He emphasised that all eight were recovering well despite their long exposed to humidity in caves and being exhausted by diving.

[quote]None are showing any sign of fever so far, he added.

From their dedicated ward, the boys have demanded meals of pad krapow – a Thai comfort dish made from spicy pork, basil leaves and rice. On doctor’s orders they are getting no more than baby food, Mr Osottanakorn revealed.

‘The four children from today are in good health,’ he said. ‘Doctors have told us we must be careful about the food that is given to them because they are fragile after starving for many days. They can take normal food like diluted porridge.’

Anxious parents of the first four had to wait 24 hours before being allowed to see their sons – and even then with no physical contact allowed.

Yesterday afternoon public health inspector Dr Thongchai Lertwilairattanapong said the parents of the latest foursome would be allowed to see their children in the evening but added: ‘Visitors will only be allowed to meet and talk to the patients but no hugging or touching – and they need to leave a one to two-metre distance.’

[quote] Their parents’ concern drove their coach 25-year-old Ekapol Jantawong, a stateless orphan who shared their love of football, to the cave. Near the entrance, he found their bikes, a discovery that meant he had to go deep inside to try to locate them and bring them back.

Wow, I was not expecting that plot twist.

r195 so he just runs into a cave without alerting anyone? Really?

I'm sorry I don't believe anything right now because everyone is using this for their own ends.

I loved it when the King said that while he appreciated the support of American mothers, he wished these women would stop suggesting that he shoot the coach.

The Thailand king, R197?

Yes. King Mongkut.

Who should play the role of King Mongkut?

Someone long dead. I am thinking Charlie Chan.

The coach is a fucking hero!

Why are they waiting until 4pm for this round of rescues?

R203 They cannot get Musk and his stupid giant submarine out of the fucking way to get in?

I think they will go in earlier. Maybe they hope to bring them all out by 4 o clock. Some things are getting lost in translation.

The last mission to get out all five of the remaining started at 10:08. We should know by tomorrow morning.

^^^^

Thanks, R206. 10:06 Thai time?

Yes. It's 12:09 there now.

I don't believe for a second. Why the change of story? This is so fishy.

Remember, they interviewed students who didn't go!

[quote]Members of the Moo Pa soccer club played their first game yesterday since the cave saga began. The coach used his post game interview to call for an end to discrimination against undocumented kids in Thailand. “This is where they are equal [on the soccer field].”

R210 link please.

I need to get in that cave and make sure no bats were harmed!

What the fuck is it to you, R210? Are you just one of those idiots who see a conspiracy behind every corner? It's really none of your business.

No. I am asking questions. don't you find it strange? R214, so you just take what they tell you as the gospel truth? Damn, poor you.

For over 3 wks the story is 1 way...then it is changed just as the coach is about to come out and many are calling for his head? This is BS. Personally, I don't care what happens to the coach. But this is so typical 3rd world country behavior and they expect the whole world to swallow their "truth" like their stupid citizens.

R214 you are the idiot.

The story came out of Perth, Australia, r215. Hardly a third world country.

R212, all the articles that were linked in previous threads, many of them interviewed students who didn't go. I remember one even said. those who didn't want to go just waited for their parents to pick them up after practice. it was supposed to be a team bonding experience, remember? they wanted to carve shit onto the cave walls? gee, how soon we forget.

and there were articles about how the coach took the kids every where after practices, it was very normal! remember?

This vid has some great footage.

R215 you don’t even realise that we don’t use the phrase “third world” any more. And if I hadn’t already thought that you were racist then “their stupid citizens” confirmed it.

I bet you couldn’t even find Thailand on a map, you bigot.

Are you really expecting answers to your stupid questions and suspicions about a situation on the other side of the planet on a American gay message board, r215?

until I see CNN reporting otherwise, I will believe the coach took them there. That shitty article quoted nobody. no names. fake news. Perth is shitty 3rd world as far as i'm concerned.

R222, i meant to add, perth is a shitty 3rd world country if their standards of journo is so low as to print those words as facts.

R222=deplorable

R220, who is "we"? just because you don't use it, others can't? gee. so liberal.

R215 and R222 - Perth isn’t a country, you idiot!

Perth is in Western Australia, boring as fuck. or some may say, very peaceful where nothing much happens. very good place to raise a family. typical frau habitat.

Fuck you R143. It is a beautiful country.

Coach ❤️❤️❤️

Deep mediation, is that like deep breathing exercises? they probably breathed in a lot of bat poop and harmful dusts during those deep breathing exercises...poor boys. they will be in hospital for at least a week, according to a CNN article.

Yes R227 I am aware of where Perth is. You said that it’s a country, which it obviously isn’t. Don’t try and deflect to cover up your stupidity.

OMG, some of you are so fucking stupid! no wonder trump won! DO YOU FUCKING BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET???

it's one article from Perth. that quotes nobody, no names, nothing! And so you believe??? wow!!!

So smart!!!

Please, use your brains, THINK for a change,

Here is hot diver Matt with another hunky diver

Matt's profile.

wow, I didn't notice until now, one of the kids inside was wearing a England team jersey. Hope he made it out and will be able to watch the game on Weds.

Hopefully FIFA lives up to their very VAGUE promise!

Please do not feed the fat straight chick trolls.

Ivan Karadzic, one of the divers on the international rescue team, says he is filled with awe at how "incredibly strong" the boys are.

"I cannot understand how cool these small kids are."

One of the things the rescued boys having been asking for? Chocolate.

But for now, they might have to make do with food that's easy on the stomach. To be fair, chocolate does fall under that category.

The rescue began at 10:08 local time (03:08 GMT), with 19 divers making their way into the cave.

If conditions allow, nine people will come out today - the four remaining boys, the coach, a doctor and Navy Seal divers who have been with them.

Thai Navy Seal divers have said that today's mission might take longer than usual.

The eight boys who are already rescued are said to be in good health.

Actually I’m not American, R232, for what it’s worth. Just someone calling you out on your obvious racism and even more obvious stupidity.

R240, are you the one who posted the article?

A lot of good looking actors come from the continent of Perth.

No, R241, I’m not. I wasn’t defending the post, just calling a stupid, racist bigot of a poster on their stupidity, racism and bigotry.

Born in Myanmar, R128....

[quote]Ekapol Chantawong, 25, was born in Myanmar but now lives in the nearby border town of Mae Sai in Thailand.

[quote]According to a profile from BBC Thai his parents died when he was very young, and his grandmother in Myanmar is the only relative he has left.

#9 is out, per CNN.

So did coach lead the boys into the caves or did he go into caves looking for the boys after they went missing ?

Only one way to find out, R246. Ask the coach! We'll have to wait and see what he says...

#10 is very close; CNN again.

It seems to be going a lot faster today.

#10 is out.

Hot diver shots - thanks upthread R233

And three lions 🦁🦁🦁 England supporter wild boar boy will be in time to see Wednesday (roughly midnight Chiang Rai time) in the hispital IF those tough porridge feeding docs let him have a widescreen TV on the ward abd can stay up late?!

ESP since England likely to have it handed to em by Croatia- poor kid might have to watch replay when he gets up tho.

He's my lucky charm that England go through to WC2018 Final for first time since '66!

Hooyay #10 out 2 + cutie (blameless hero) Coach to go!

Oops mobile phone DL txt fuck ups

^^ Hooray or Hooyah!

If I ever have to stuck in a cave for days with someone else, my first pick would be a Bhuddist raised in a monestary, who'd help me meditate the stress away and give me all the food.

I've been away from news sources for about ten hours - 10th kid out you say?

YAAAAAY!!!!

Did I miss any drama?

Just seeing great more detailed vision now of some of the tech structural rescue mechanisms set up inside the cave tunnels with loads of daisy chaining divers too.

Looks like much mire vision and rescue foiotage will be around as from the immediate post-rescue briefings.

Even if the whole shebang diesn't get the Hollywood Hilary Swank backstory treatment, I'm very hopeful of an amazing Thai Cave Rescue documentary in the months ahead. The world-wide fascination and attention has been too remarkable and notable, drawing together so msny elements , for there not to be.

And now #11 is out!

Well R253, DL being what it is, 'to drain or not to drain, that is the question' when it comes to *food drama* ....

So, does a request from the first lot of rescued boys now allowed to have solid food, for chocolate toast constitute earth shattering detail for you ?!

As yet no news on the Coach or wellbeing of latest rescuees.

#11 out!! = BREAKING

there was an article that other boys said they are all always in and out of that cave. one said he even got lost in it for 30 minutes. Obviously people use this cave all the time or they wouldn't have posted the warning abou0t staying out of the cave between July-Oct.

Did you ever hear of things just happening? that something is really no ones fault but just happens? If the coach wasn't there they wouldn't have survived. And if the coach wasn't there they may have all gone in without him if he actually did go in with them. Then who would you blame? you notice that the King said American women. We are such an angry people who constantly seek revenge, like Trump

I hope the coach won't be in any more trouble...at least he helped get the boys somewhere safe.

[Bold]Uhm, thanks, but no.[/bold]

The rescue of the soccer team in Thailand’s Tham Luang cave is nearly over, with a team of international divers entering today for what is hoped to be the final time. The divers will be making an 11-hour round trip through flooded passages to free the remaining trapped boys and their coach. They will do so, however, without Elon Musk’s purpose-built “kid-sized submarine.”

The SpaceX and Tesla CEO announced he would try to help with the rescue operation last week, and refashioned part of a Falcon 9 rocket into an underwater escape capsule for the children. Musk apparently flew out to Thailand with the device over the weekend, sharing photos and videos of the rescue site on social media.

But according to reports from The Guardian and ABC, Musk was “politely” told that the mini-submarine would not be of use. “Although his technology is good and sophisticated it’s not practical for this mission,” Narongsak Osatanakorn, head of the command centre overseeing the rescue, told reporters. Musk tweeted that the mini-sub was “ready if needed” and would be left at the cave system as it “may be useful in the future.”

Musk’s would-be involvement in the rescue operation has received a mix response on social media. Some have praised the businessman for his altruism, while others have suggested that his actions seem short-sighted and even opportunistic. Some were also skeptical of Musk’s choice of rescue vehicle, suggesting that the rigid mini-submarine would not be able to navigate the narrow twists and turns of the Tham Luang cave. Musk said divers who had traversed the passage had vouched that the device would be small enough.

[quote]The 11th boy has reached the cave entrance. He’s the smallest and is in good health.

If smallest = youngest, that's KFC boy.

Guardian sources have confirmed that 11 people have now been rescued from the cave.

the 11th one out is the youngest 11 year old

whoops! sorry r260 didn't mean to step on you, didn't see your post.

I would assume this last batch is the healthiest? Excluding the coach.

No Kid has Ever Dived Like This Before

Saman Kunan will be cremated on Saturday.

Saman Kunan died doing what he wanted to do. most people cannot say this. He sacrificed his life so those kids could survive. I am sure they will always honor him

Is Elon’s kid size sub big enough for grown men like coach ?

I read in the Guardian that the boys were given anti-anxiety drugs? Was that really necessary?

That's the most interesting paradox of the whole scenario really R257 - that if the Coach had not been with then no matter the circumstances of his presence in the first instance, those boys may very well have had no chance of survival even to have found tne rock beach within the cave when the cave flash flooded and/or the prolonged period in absolute pitch black darkness of 9 days before they wete found.

Jacob Goldberg @yayqe

Thai PM says the boys have been given anti-anxiety medication for the journey out the cave - the same medication he takes to help him relax when he shoots guns.....???????

ThaiTV is reporting that they are all out.

R270. How you know ? The boys may be resourceful even without coachie. And they could have the food all to themselves without sharing with him.

I'M COMING OUT I WANT THE WORLD TO SEE thank you

What’s the chance one of them is gay ?

Waiting on confirmation that all 12 + coach are out and safe

r272 including the coach and the rescuers??

I saw in twitter it's all over? Everyone now out inncl the coach?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Happy endings are always boring

Fuck happy endings, I prefer edging.

[quote]Helicopter just went overhead to cheers and clapping from volunteers. They waved it goodbye #ThamLuangCave

From an in country poster, some details: The first group of boys has been fed bread and chocolate (requested!), still no spicy food. The second group is still on a medicalized diet. Several have mild lung infections. They have seen family through glass partition. They are wearing sunglasses to protect their eyes. They are expected to remain in the hospital for a week for treatment and monitoring.

The helicopter was not the coach - per the Guardian, it is taking longer today for rescuees to be moved from the site to the helicopter Still more to leave for the hospital. Still waiting on confirmation that all are, in fact, rescued, reported by several unofficial sources.

**BREAKING** All the boys and their coach are out of the Tham Luang cave. Navy Seals and the doctor still yet to exit.

Are they Chopard sunglasses ?

Sunglasses explains those umbrellas beside the evacuation choppers on the sunny days too.

Wildly boaring, r280.

R285, Wow! I really hope that's true! And it's not boring to me. I've ended up caring very much for these kids and their coach.

Those are some lucky little fellows. Thanks to the brave coach, medics and Navy SEALs.

What great news, and here too thoughts for the deceased Navy SEAL as well.

I won't be bored when I see wetsuit divers and washboard abs.

[quote]18.30 helo MI-17 is preparing for a take off! Transporting the 11-12th boys to the hospital #thaicaverescue #thamluangcave #ถ้ำหลวง SO HAPPY❤️

:/

The divers and medical staff are still in the cave. It is being reported that he Aussie doc will be the last to exit. The last boy rescued and the coach have yet to be taken to the ambulance to be helicoptered thao the hospital. May they arrive safely.

What happened to the person in critical condition when the vehicle went off the cliff a few days ago? Hoping that he recovers too.

CBS just showed a cave in FL and what it would have been like in the dark. I think it is a miracle that those boys were able to even reach the safety that they did, completely in the dark and 2½ miles into the cave.

the result of the rescue is because the ENTIRE world was working for one goal. there were no sides, just one. too bad we won't learn from that.

What will CNN have to talk about 24 hours a day now that these little assholes are out of that stupid cave? I guess there’s a backlog of Meghan Markle coverage that got preempted for this cave nonsense, so there’s that.

I haven't been the least bit bored. i cannot remember if I've ever been so transfixed by a news drama quite like this before.

Hacen't visited northern Thailand, but am inclined to now at some point.

Will the boys be doing a world tour ?

R273 - It’s almost as if you’ve arrived here to make stupid comments without having read a shred of information first.

R293, is that site for real???

LOL at Hollywood. I am sure they are praying for some casualty in order to make the film dramatic enough for next year's Oscars.

R297 Same here

I am so inspired by gracious and humble way the Thai people have comported themselves: kids, coach, the couch (lol), the parents. I really want to visit now.

I'm a "Jew-Bu" and this has inspired me to go sincerely deeper with my practice. Gosh, you never know when you're gonna need the muscle memory of many, many, many hours clocked in meditation.

Thai Navy Seals social media has confirmed that the boys and coach have all been rescued. One boy and the coach have yet to be transported to hospital. The divers and medical team are still in the cave.

May the former Seal who died RIP and may his wife and family be comforted by memories and by his bravery and heroism.

Do you think any of them cried when they got lost ?

Why are some news outlets still acting like the 12th boy and the coach haven't been freed yet? CNN just tweeted something totally wrong about still working on freeing the 12th boy. So dumb.

Amazing story. Amazing outcome. Amazing people coming together for a singular, altruistic cause. It is just so lovely!! The world needed this.

Fantastic news that they've all been rescued. I hope they're all okay.

Incredible, wonderful news. They are all out!

The 12th boy and the coach have not exited the cave, they have reached the staging site, which led to the reports they had been rescued safely.

There are 3 divers and the Aussie doctor who are still at the original site, caring for the boys/coach. Not clear that they will be out today or not. Guess it depends on the logistics and oxygen support.

. Incredible news! Drumpf must been freaking pissed that the spotlight is off of him because of this.....

This is a really interesting thread on twitter, with info on some of the divers. I had not know that there was a Danish diver.

I hope the remaining divers and medical team also get out safely. It is not quite over yet.

Hi daddy

r308 where did you see that about the divers and Dr. in the cave?

Yawn. I’m out of here

9m ago 13:12

A new update from Thai navy Seals says we are still waiting for the divers and the doctor to emerge from the cave. “Send encouragement to them,” its Facebook page urges.

All are out now according to CNN

four rescuers and a diver still in there

I am absolutely thrilled to hear they got out safe! Such marvelous news, it's so rare that a seemingly insurmountable problem is solved! Deepest appreciation for the dedication, intelligence, expertise, courage, and raw physical strength it took to rescue those kids.

I'm also feeling smug. right from the start I told you bitches that a dive rescue could work!

[quote] Please do not feed the fat straight chick trolls.

What are straight chick trolls?

Just amazing. An example to the world of what can be done with courage and cooperation.

There is going to be a special edition of 20/20 on ABC tonight covering this story. I think it airs at 9pm EST.

Poor kids. When will they break the news to them about George Clooney's car accident?

I will add that they probably aren't going to tell us anything we don't already know, but they might surprise us with some visual footage of divers, etc.

Was Matt Damon really there? I haven't read anything in the news about this.

Quietly. With dignity.

they are officially ALL FREE including the coach

Matt Damon is now in Italy maintaining a bedside vigil for Clooney.

someone on this thread has a hard on for the coach.

Thanks for the info. I will be recording the ABC program.

R280/R296 = You do realize you're talking about real-life people here? I can't imagine what it's like to interact with soulless Aspie cunts like yourselves in person.

I wouldn't even call it a happy ending. More of a bittersweet ending, since somebody has died.

This whole saga has also shown us that there are still real heroes out there, who will risk their lives for children. It's been very tense and difficult just for people reading the news. For the people actually involved in the rescue, they've had some real skin in the battle. And that one diver (RIP, brave man) even lost his life trying to save these kids. Maybe it's just because I'm a gay guy, but I want to believe that heroic men still exist. I can't imagine diving through those tiny crevices, trying to bring those kids to safety. And the care they needed to show those boys.

The thing that strikes me about this entire experience, is their patience. Not just the soccer team and their coach, which in itself is remarkable, but also the patience and the the deliberate, methodical way they approached the rescue from start to finish. Yes there was a sense of urgency, but they worked very deliberately pacing themselves, etc. especially after the one guy died. I'm just so impressed with that. There were no screaming parents or relatives performing in front of the cameras, and they all just handled it.

But abc at 9pm tonight is Blackish. there is no special 20/20. i will record nightline.

I once read somewhere years ago, that in the Far East and Asia, their mentality is focused very different than ours. They focus on solving problems and fixing things, while we focus on assigning blame. So when something bad happens, we are very quick to ask "Who did this? Whose fault is it?" And Their reaction is: What happened and how can it be fixed?"

The History Boys (crush on a bi-curious guy).

R333, you've got to be kidding. Asia is focused on "solving problems" and "fixing things"? Have you been to some of these countries? They are slow as fuck and not good at solving problems and fixing things. A few countries are great yes...but most of these countries are not.

The boys got out alive because of international help. Their own Royal Navy Seal died. Poor guy didn't know he didn't have enough oxygen...

I am not impressed with the Thai govt at all. I'm impressed with the international response and volunteers which include the local Thais, some of them stayed up all night to wash clothes for the cops so they had clean uniforms etc.

Hallelujah! Congratulations Thailand! Congratulations international divers!! Great job by all. Great job together! Most relieved, most impressed. Speedy good health to all rescued. This is a good day today.

It wasn't just the rescue people who were brave and clever, it was those kids. They hung on for days of pitch dark and starvation without going insane or doing anything stupid... and then they learned how to dive! Okay, not PADI certified, but they managed to get through miles of pitch-dark filthy water with dvuba gear, something that would drive the average datalounger to shrieking hysteria and drowning. Or being drowned by someone who had to listen to the screaming hissy fit.

It's almost enough to give you hope for humanity, they actually are capable of doing things right.

I am watching the bbc world news, they have video of people in the cave. it's so muddy and dark....

Ornamental tinymeat: uncut&stinky with cheese!

The good endingscouldn't have come to a nicer, better mannered, more civilized, more beautiful people. All power to you Thailand!

Something tells me we're gonna find out soon that these two masterminded the rescue mission.

"....and they all just handled it."

Wonderfully written post R331 and I entirely agree. The balance between focused urgency and attention in yhis whole story and recue event/operation WITHOUT grand-standing or hysteria has truly been refreshing.

A bit of faith in the co-operative international effort fir a human focus and problem solving endeavour has been bolstered for me.

In further news, if it's not already been posted, the last doctor and three navy SEALS who remained with the boys and the coach in the chamber throughout the eight days sunce they were found are also out safely thenselves.

2 boys from the first group has pneumonia.

R343

Oh, dear.

That doctor is so awesome! Nobel peace prize for him!

This was a masterpiece of organization, teamwork, and careful planning, as well as bravery. Congrats to everyone involved in every stage of the operation, from the heroic divers who swam the kids out to everyone that made lunch.

You try swimming through miles of cave without a good meal on board!

Apart from a few douche morons and cunts, these Thai threads have been a fabulous convergence of all that I most adore about the DL too.

Camaraderie, black humour,wit, insight, neurotic hysteria, calm wisdom,informative ahead of the game, pervy and of course, pointkess bitchery.

R345 Yes it would a well deserved Nobel Peace Prize for the team, coach, divers, administrators.... all of them... just wow. Such bravery one and all. Such cooperation across nations. Such empathy and grace under pressure.

I feel so proud of them all. It gives me hope. It is something real, courageous, and honorable the whole world can get behind for peace in the world.

Yes those heroes truly brought peace to the cave.

They're all out safely.

Pax and Maddox must be cast in the movie. Sun yi can play a worried mother.

Fab pic R350

They look like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in that shot; maybe it's the shades.

r331 This is in contrast to Elon Musk who, I feel, kept trying to insert himself into the project. He did not ask how he could help or first find out if he could help based on the actual conditions. Instead be set to work on something completely impractical and useless. He may have had all the best intentions but it would have been wonderful if he had made an offer to help and waited for their answer.

YAASS! This is what happens when you let JESUS take the wheel. He DOES answers prayers, and to him goes ALL the glory!

It's been beautiful sharing another tragedy with you bitches.

Hope it's a while before we do this again.

I gonna order Pad Krapow to honor them ;)

Yeah, Elon Must was the one person involved in the rescue who made a complete ass of himself. Instead of actually trying to help he tried to prove that he was smarter than everyone else trying to rescue the kids... and actually proved he was not. Other people had a well-organized and successful rescue underway by the time he delivered his useless little invention.

And R355, I think I love you.

I saw images of the navy seal wife and his funeral. sad.

Totally agree on Elon Musk. Fucking douche bag. That shit ain't gonna work, please fuck off to mars. He wasn't interested in helping. He was only interested in showing the world he had a mini sub made of "rocket" parts ! wow! so cool! fuck you asshole!

Thai Navy Seals Facebook page with videos. Interesting.

A heroic culinary gesture in true DL spirit R356!

Asia & Pacific The Latest: Medic, divers who stayed with boys leave cave

People wait as police block the road during an emergency helicopter evacuation in Chiang Rai as divers evacuated some of the 12 boys and their coach trapped at Tham Luang cave in the Mae Sai district of Chiang Rai province, northern Thailand, Tuesday, July 10, 2018. Thai Navy SEALs say all 12 boys and their coach were rescued from the cave, ending an ordeal that lasted more than 2 weeks. (Vincent Thian/Associated Press) by Associated Press July 10 at 11:16 AM

MAE SAI, Thailand — The Latest on the rescue of a youth soccer team from a flooded cave in Thailand (all times local):

10:10 p.m.

The official who led the Thai cave rescue says the medic and three Thai navy SEAL divers who stayed with the trapped boys after they were found have left the flooded cave.

He says they are all in strong condition.

A daring rescue mission in the treacherous confines of the flooded cave in northern Thailand saved all 12 boys and their soccer coach who were trapped deep inside, ending an 18-day ordeal on Tuesday.

The leader of the operation, Chiang Rai acting Gov. Narongsak Osatanakorn, said, “We did something nobody thought possible.”

___

9:30 p.m.

One of soccer’s most popular teams, Manchester United, has expressed its relief over the rescue of the Thai youth soccer team and invited the Wild Boars players and coach, as well as those who saved them, to come see them play on their home ground this season.

A message posted on the ManU Twitter account said: “Our thoughts and prayers are with those affected. We would love to welcome the team from Wild Boars Football Club and their rescuers to Old Trafford this coming season.”

Manchester United is very popular in Thailand, with 135,000 “friends” on the local fan club’s Facebook page.

The international soccer federation, FIFA, had already invited the boys to attend the World Cup final in Russia this Sunday. However, doctors now treating the boys in a hospital have said it would be too soon for them to make the trip.

Thailand’s prime minister says the 12 boys saved from a flooded cave were given an anti-anxiety medication to help with their rescue.

Asked at a weekly news conference Tuesday if the boys had been sedated, Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha said, “Who would chloroform them? If they’re chloroformed, how could they come out? It’s called Anxiolytic, something to make them not excited, not stressed.”

Prayuth also said the Tham Luang cave will be closed for some time. He said it needs to be made safe so it can be developed into a tourist destination.

NPR coverage

The laundry ladies at the hospital are rumored to be plotting to kill Pipat.

The videos of the boys in the cave are heartbreaking. They are basically skin and bones.

The young soccer players rescued from a partially flooded cave Tuesday were given anti-anxiety pills to help them safely complete their journey, officials said.

A source told Khaosod English that the four boys were “medically sedated” for the dangerous journey out of the Tham Luang cave network — to reduce the chance that they would have an anxiety attack on their way out.

“Reviving them fully is why it takes time for them to emerge from the cave entrance,” the source said.

Amazing how much of this rescue was suggest on the DL before the fact, up to an including vicious arguments about what kind of medication the boys ought to have before going into the water.

If we'd been in charge, would we have gone with that sort of plan? Or would we have just bombed holes in the mountain, or given the kids cyanide pills? I mean, they might sit near us on an airplane some day.

And broken their arms, R368.

[quote] miles of pitch-dark filthy water

Blame Pee-Pat for that.

I could never go diving. too much shit in the water.

They should name the Bangkok Airport after the seal who died. A good friend of mine is a Navy nurse who knows a lot of seals. The seals said that this rescue would be impossible. Quite a miracle!

love R337!!

Great news!!

wow, the PM said they are gonna close the cave and make changes so they can develop it into a tourist attraction!

Thanks for the link R360.

Jayzus! I knew it was dark with limited light in the tunnels and cave cavities, but seeing one of thpse SEAL vids witj the muddy opaque water- just terrifying to think of diving through inch by inch witj ZERO visibility deep undergound. Your headlamp would do jack shit iunderwater. I hadn't conceptualised that aspect fully before, even witj all the great media graphics and so on.

I am even more awesyruck by thei team of daisy chaindivers, all stars and volunteers divers that went in!

They will be mentally and physically fatigued beyond anything reasonable ovet the padt few days straight of sheer focused effort even if that's thei intetest expertise and training.

To the poster above who said Blackish is on and not the 20/20 special tonight-that would be because it is a special edition of 20/20, not a scheduled one, so your guide doesn't have it scheduled in. It will be on.

Basil chicken and Riesling in honor of them!

I'd like to thank all the divers from the bottom of my cold dark Datalounger's heart. Not just the Seals who pulled the kids themselves out of the cave, but every other diver who went in. Every diver who went to deliver tanks or lay a guide cable or ferry food to the kids was risking their fucking life, any one of them could have gone the way of Saman Kunan, on every trip into that hellhole.

I'd also like to thank everyone else who contributed, from the people who somehow got electricity into a wild cave, the drivers who delivered the air tanks, the organizers who came up with a successful rescue plan, the local farmers who let their fields be flooded by water pumped out of the cave, everyone who donated supplies, the cavers who combed the muddy forested mountainside looking for alternate routes, the cooks and launderers, everyone who had to deal with the parents, and the local people who are going to have to pick up a mountain of trash left behind by this massive show. Everyone, in fact, but Elon Musk.

[quote] They will be mentally and physically fatigued beyond anything reasonable ovet the padt few days

It’s not “padt”. It’s pad thai.

They should rename the airport after the Thailand king - the Bangkok International Vajiport.

Lol and touché R380! Yeah - my txt typos in appalling 'Oh dear' disarray.

I'll blame fevered overwrought relief at yhe triumphant resolution of a simply amazing human drama.

How about Pee-Pat international airport?

Maybe this link has been provided before, but this is a 2011 documentary on the two UK divers, appropriately entitled Into the Darkness.

[quote] ... something that would drive the average datalounger to shrieking hysteria and drowning. Or being drowned by someone who had to listen to the screaming hissy fit.

Remember the guy on an old DL thread who was scared of the loud noise from whacking open a tube of biscuits? He wouldn't have made it through this ordeal.

[quote] It's almost enough to give you hope for humanity, they actually are capable of doing things right.

If they're Buddhists.

I don't feel like reading about any ugliness today - trump, the SC, Brexit, BoJo, the russian loot, children in cages, toddlers on trial, NATO, Putin, Giuliani, Cohen, Ivanka trademarks.... One day of goodness and light dominating the news cycle. Rare.

And severed their limbs, R368

Can we put all the assholes on these threads who said the boys were all going to die in that cave? Maybe they'd develop a sense of empathy.

[quote]Getting emails from @elonmusk company spokespeople asking me to clarify: "Multiple divers involved with the rescue said the mini-sub design was viable, and their feedback directly informed our engineering and testing."

How was a solid metal tube viable when every diagram of the cave showed the narrowness and bend of the choke point?

Rather than Elon Musk crying big salty tears about what people are saying about him — and if, [italic]if,[/italic] he genuinely wants to help — he should just shut up and get to work on a way to help the peasant farmers whose fields were flooded and whose statements show them to have a million times more dignity than he could ever imagine.

Just go away and help people silently, without fanfare, and when word leaks out (and it will) that you've done something real, something that actually helped someone, we'll forget all about this debacle.

[quote] help people silently, without fanfare, and when word leaks out (and it will) that you've done something real, something that actually helped someone

Like Matt Damon

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the matt damon troll punked us all. he was never there.

So a happy ending for once?

Still no shirtless pic of hunky Matt Fitzgerald ?

ABC has updated, it now shows 20/20. will be watching tonight!

Have any of the boys come down with that bat guano disease yet?

Next time the boys go in the cave they can use Elon Musk's submarine. It'll be safer that way.

Heh:

"Some reports boys are being drugged to make this journey. To be clear, Thai PM was clear today the children were not given anaesthetic: "Who the hell would give that to a kid?" He says they were given "something to make them to make them not too nervous and panic" #thamluangcave"

He's all offended that the suggestion they drugged them, then admits they drugged them. (?!)

R397 they ended up using it as a standing urinal. The cave area was getting nasty. Elon Musk was not pleased.

Matt the diver

or

Matt Damon?

Who do you prefer and why?

Sounds like they gave the boys vodka.

R401 Matt the Driver all night long

Way more PPL are gunned down every day. Who cares?

Matt Damon cares. If the stars care, then so should we.

Apparently a lot of people, R403. Five threads thus far.

We had this argument before the fact. It wouldn't have been possible to anesthetize the boys or knock them out for the whole trip, what they would have got is an anxiolytic that hopefully lasted a few hours. Something to help them relax and put up with unpleasantness and not panic, not something that would keep them asleep the whole time. Maybe a Xanax or a valium, at a guess.

Because the trip out would be both incredibly stressful and incredibly boring, hour after hour of being unable to see in pitch-dark water where your headlamp doesn't even allow you to see the diver who's dragging you along, hour after hour of being pulled along by a diver who isn't able to talk to you, hour after hour of cold and exhaustion, having to face horrible narrow tunnels or steep climbs after the cold water's been bleeding your energy away, hating every moment but being unable to stay where you are regardless of how tired you or the divers are. Hell yes, I'd like a valium before I started something like that, and a couple of extras to take along the way!

Although I think it's great that the kids were able to make it out at least partly under their own power. That will make a psychological difference, make the whole experience more of a triumph over adversity than a trauma.

[quote]Way more PPL are gunned down every day. Who cares?

I seriously don't get the thought process behind statements like this. Shouldn't that make you glad to read stories like this then? How do gain any sort of enjoyment from anything in life?

Thanks but no thanks. Poor Elon.

This is the best outcome on a new story in a decade at least. I can't recall a more compelling situation and with an outcome that we could barely have hoped for. So relieved they all made it out and hurting for the diver who died and his family. So thankful for all of the divers and everyone else involved with pulling off this miracle.

It's just a shame that George Clooney couldn't get there in time. Hopefully they keep the news about the motorcycle crash from the boys. No need to dampen their spirits.

Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Datalounge poll Thai soccer team rescue FAIL here:

Any statement or word from King Vaj?

R403, And yet you're here, posting on this thread.

When people are gunned down, it's often a quick death. These little boys and their coach were hanging on, in a pitch black cave, slowly starving to death, and trying not to drown. The thought of their suffering, and how much worse it would have been had they not been rescued, brings me to tears. When the first diver in found them and reported back, many people were shocked that they were still alive. It didn't seem like there was much chance of rescuing them, given the condition. And yet, now they've been freed, and will need to try to recover from their ordeal. They conducted themselves with tremendous courage, and many others displayed their own courage by taking huge risks to try to save them. One heroic diver died during his effort to aid them. A death of honor trying to save another person's life is different from death by some random bullet.

R409, in 2010, 33 miners were rescued from a collapsed mine in Chile after being trapped for 69 days. That was pretty dramatic & miraculous too -- they had to be pulled up one by one. But at least it wasn't flooded, & they were adults.

[quote]This is the best outcome on a new story in a decade at least.

And that's even before you add in Elon Musk being shown his ass.

Or Matt Damon showing his womanly ass.

FUCK THESE GOOK CUNTS!!!

THERE, I SAID IT.

Not letting you have the last (awful) word r417.

Feel better now

Try this again - feel better now R417? You gormless, lick-spittling pissmidget.....

Anyone else pick up Thai food tonight?

It is bittersweet, with the loss of life, yet still a day for celebration.

I am eating spicy pork and basil with rice, hope the kids can have some soon.

The Buddhist monastery where the coach grew up is beautiful and a tourist site. It is close to the border, with views of Thailand and Myanmar. I suspect tourism to the region may be in for an uptick.

Did the concerned lesbian princess make a statement?

R421, how is their pad thai?

After serving 30 years in a Thai prison where he is daily raped by hung Nigerian men the Coach should then be deported to his stateless country.

R424, is he from a stateless country or is he himself stateless?

Trump resents news like this. He hates it when attention is taken away from him. He has no interest. He's a fucking sociopath.

R417 and R424 have used up my allotment of FFs, unfortunately.

R392 You are correct! Just did a search, no hits on Matt Damon + Thai cave. He was NEVER THERE! Has anyone else actually absorbed this information? LOLZ! We was punk'd but good.

[quote] Or Matt Damon showing his womanly ass.

Why do people here say Matt has a womanly ass?

I'm watching the abc news special now. the coach went to the cave with the boys, they even showed a video of them cycling there. so whoever posted that stupid perth article is the fucking idiot!

R430 My couch is blameless

I don't know what originally happened that caused those kids and their coach to be trapped inside that cave. Only that it was an established local custom to engrave something on a wall in there, and many other locals had done the same thing. When the water rose, and the kids and their coach became trapped, he managed to shepherd them to a spot where they could remain dry, and wait for rescue. The coach tried to calm the little boys (that's what they are: think about it), by trying to teach them to meditate. Can you imagine being stuck, in absolute blackness, with no food, for that long, wondering if anyone is ever going to attempt to come for you? I'm a gay guy, not a frau, but the coach is still a hero, since his whole team is alive today. They wouldn't have survived without him.

And they wouldn't ever have been in the cave during the rainy season without the coach. Crucify him! Put him to death!

Agreed, R432. I read an article that described what happened when the first two British divers showed up. It seemed like they thought they were just there exploring the cave; they apparently didn't think anyone was even looking for them. Only the one boy speaks any English but the rest of them just started saying "eat, eat, eat" over and over because they knew what that word meant. It was so heart-breaking.

I don't understand how come it took 9 days for anyone to find them? That is shocking. It was known to others that they were going there. There were videos of they biking there. their bikes were outside the cave...yet the Thai authorities can't do anything?

they started gathering on day 2. I don't know where all this 9 days is coming from. It took them all that time to find them

I don't blame the coach but that Perth article posted by an idiot claims the parents went to the coach, to ask him to find the kids coz they weren't home yet etc. The coach went to cave and became trapped there with them lol. This is why you can't believe everything you read.

They were found after they went missing for 9 days. by 2 brits.

There is a video and the boy asked "what day is today?" the brit replied "monday", you've been here 10 days.

I think they said that because of all the hateful people that need someone to blame. I think these are the same people that have reincarnated from the witch trials that delighted in seeing people burned to death.

the Brits didn't walk in on day 9 and just stumble upon them

The Aussies were searching for them as well, together with the Brits. The Aussies stop searching at 5pm (they were taking a break) and 2 hours later, the Brits found them.

I think it is amazing that the pumps pumping out the water from the cave stopped working just as the last of the divers were gathering stuff to bring out of the cave and it started to fill up with a lot of water.

"I don't understand how come it took 9 days for anyone to find them? "

Because flooded caves are very dangerous, and very convoluted. It wasn't a question of following a known path along a cave floor and seeing if anyone was there, it was a question of feeling their way through pitch-dark, murky water with zero visibility and dangerous currents pulling them this way and that, and finding out which of the millions of holes and crevices they couldn't see into led onto the rest of the cave, and weren't dead ends or shallow holes. Fortunately this cave is less complex that some, it seems to have only two main branches instead of dozens of pits and side passages, which makes it less complex than a lot of big caves. With that and the difficulty of getting many divers and lots of dive equipment to a backwater of rural Thailand, it's amazing it only took nine days to find them !

I used to dive a lot, but dayamn, this is why I never wanted to take up cave diving or caving.

oh bad news, the Aussie Doctor/diver"s dad passed away lasts night!!!

R437 Based on what was said on tonight's 20/20, the assistant coach went into the cave with them and got trapped. When the children didn't show up at home, the parents contacted the team's head coach, who went and discovered their bikes chained up by the cave. I think that article may have confused the two different coaches for one person.

There were many heroes. It shouldn't be a competition. Anyone who was willing to take the risks those divers and doctors did deserves our undying support. And those boys and their coach also faced insurmountable odds that would have bested most people. I wouldn't have survived, and wouldn't be missed. Anyway, I think the Thai people themselves have demonstrated a wonderful attitude, not pointing fingers or trying to assign blame, but just trying to save their kids. It was a Thai diver who died trying to aid the kids.

They all look alike, R447.

that is sad but I have noticed a pattern over the years. I wish I had written them all down because at the moment the only one I remember is Obama. his grandmother died the night before he was elected. I knew she had died to make sure he won and to help from the other side.

I knew the same was true of the diver that died and that he was helping form the other side. I am going to say the same thing abut the Dr.'s father because the Dr. was still in the cave when his father died and I believe it was to help him get out safely.

some info on the volunteers....who did such a great job!

I'm glad to see this thread is still going. I've been following each one in the series, even checking early in the mornings to see if there had been any updates on the resume effort. Today, shortly after it'd had been confirmed that the last of the boys and the coach had been successfully rescued, there were no more posts. 12 hours had gone by and I thought, man DL'ers are fast. Just move right on to the next thing. Turns out it was an issue with my phone not receiving the new posts.

I hope the cave and eco system can regenerate after all the intrusive interference.

"Eat! Eat! Eat! Eat!"

R452, not sure about that, the thai govt is gonna close it for a while and make it "safer" and turn it into a tourist attraction, according to the Thai PM.

R451, I think you were affected by the Gratham frequency glitch.

There were many heroes. It shouldn't be a competition. Anyone who was willing to take the risks those divers and doctors did deserves our undying support. And those boys and their coach also faced insurmountable odds that would have bested most people. I wouldn't have survived, and wouldn't be missed. Anyway, I think the Thai people themselves have demonstrated a wonderful attitude, not pointing fingers or trying to assign blame, but just trying to save their kids. It was a Thai diver who died trying to aid the kids.

I apologize for the double post.

R445, That's very sad. I've lost my parents, and I'm still trying to recover from it. He must be a strong man, but you find yourself finding parts of yourself that don't reconcile themselves.

R449, if you believe people who die during a disaster can "help from the other side", why didn't YOU kill yourself to help free the kids?

Slacker!

Darfur orphan, that won’t work for you. No one is going to come to rescue you. The jobs aren’t coming back!

R457 I'm sorry for your loss. Hang tough.

r458 I did my part. I told everyone from day 1 that they would all be rescued and come out alive. I got some nasty remarks but continued to state they wold all survive. If I was meant to die in order to help then I would have died. guess it wasn't what I was supposed to do.

and none of those that died Killed themselves that I am aware of.

[quote]Way more PPL are gunned down every day. Who cares?

How do these idiots not strangle themselves tying their shoes?

The "How is their pad Thai" troll is cracking me up.

Given that the media is tightly controlled in Thailand, can we really generalize about what the parents or "Thai people" think about this story? It seems very condescending to ascribe to them all these positive characteristics. Who knows what any of them feel about the coach or the rescue effort.

R450 does anyone know who the hottie farthest on the right (facing the camera) is? I think I've seen multiple pictures of him, but he's never been named.

"I did my part. I told everyone from day 1 that they would all be rescued and come out alive."

Don't give yourself airs, sweetie, you did what the rest of us did, sit at home and talk! Of course that's all I did, and it's been very interesting an informative. But the only effect any of my days and days of chatter have had is that a couple of people know a tiny bit more about caves and diving than they did last week.

If anyone had actually wanted to help, sending enough money to buy a couple of compressed air tanks would have done more good than all the words we exchanged.

r465 all we know is what we heard. the parents sent him a letter while he was in the cave telling him not to blame himself and they thanked him for taking care of their children

[quote]R449, if you believe people who die during a disaster can "help from the other side", why didn't YOU kill yourself to help free the kids?

Lol!

Also, to say that the live human beings who actually did execute a flawless rescue were actually aided by spirits, discredits the divers' skill AND makes you look like a silly cunt.

r469 and does it make you feel better to tell me that?

you have NO clue how much help we get from the other side and you probably never will.

[quote] I did my part. I told everyone from day 1 that they would all be rescued and come out alive. I got some nasty remarks but continued to state they wold all survive. If I was meant to die in order to help then I would have died. guess it wasn't what I was supposed to do.

R461 = Matt Damon

R470 is correct. Ben Kenobi died so that he could help Luke destroy the Death Star from beyond the grave.

R466, I don't know. I know that Australia sent divers (from Australia Federal Police) and people from defense dept. US sent 17 people based in Okinawa, China had a team (less than 10) as well. I hope there will be stories about them....

I feel so bad for the Aussie Doctor! It's like no good deed goes unpunished. He helped all these kids and the universe has to take his dad!

Dead diver’s wife and father have spoken.

The wife’s name, Waleeporn

I think there were spirits who helped those kids. If you disapproved of Catholics being deplored. ,

True story, I once took a class with a Thai woman named Pussaydee, or maybe it was spelled Pusaydee.

On the first day, the professor actually took a stab at pronouncing not just the first name, but the super-long last name as well, with comical results. I was reminded at the time of the name of Hank Hill's Laotian neighbors, the Souphanousinphones.

R477, was she Chinese or Japanese?

I told you bitches that doing a Thai traditional dance in my living room would help save them!

I'm never going in a cave again!

Thank the spirits!

British Cave Rescue played a huge role here and is funded entirely by donations

I got the biggest laugh watching CNN this morning. They were interviewing two American divers who "were instrumental in the rescue of the boys." Obviously the interviewer wanted them to be #1 heros. She asked how long they were in the cave. One said he wasn't in the cave but at one of the organizational tents. She asked the other how he helped each boy and what his interaction with the boys was. He said he was helping at one of the cave stations but never saw a boy. She was so frustrated they were not #1 while they kept repeating that it was an international effort and all participants, in what ever function, was a hero. They were great...she was an idiot. BTW there was a Canadian diver, Erik Brown of Langley B.C, who spent 64 hours over several shifts in the cave but Canadian participation has yet to be recognized. He's on the left of the photo.

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I'm surprised one of the 13 didn't try to get out to get help. He probably would not have made it, but it's very surprising one of them didn't panic and try to go for it. It had to be nuts in that cave.

I think they didn't try to get out and get help because they were surrounded by water, and none of them could swim.

And if none of the kids did anything stupid and got themselves killed, I give the credit to the coach. It's the nature of boys that age to do stupid things and get killed, if the coach kept them all calm, sane, and alive during their incarceration than he did better than about seven billion other adults would have done.

My god, R485, you are such an idiot.

Are you stupid fraus STILL going on about this?

It's over now. You can go back to your dreary lives.

R488, given that our lives are so dreary, perhaps this is all we have.

The best fried chicken I ever had in my life was Thai fried chicken.. There I said it, American bitches! So I hope these boys get some Thai fried chicken!

R490, do you like their pad thai as well?

I like the L11 Combo with Thai crab fried rice, Angelwing, fried chicken, and a thai iced tea!

And if you've never had Thai Angel Wing, then you're missing out!

Daily Mail has video of the Seals taking the kids out of the cave, where the kids are sedated and lying on cots that are handed down the line by the Seals. I'm not linking but it looks scary.

If the kids are lying on cots, R494, it's not necessarily because they're sedated - by the time they got out of the cave they were probably too exhausted to walk!

So these kids were stressed and starved and exposed to God knows what kind of microbes for two weeks, and then they got out of the cave by swimming for a mile or so, walking the rest of the way, and climbing a 100 foot rock slope. Of course they were probably towed or supported most of the way, but FYI even being in cold water for that length of time drains your energy, even if you're wearing a good wetsuit. Being in cold, murky, filthy, water where you can't see a damn thing and death is lurking around every corner is unbelievably physically exhausting, not to mention stressful. So if the kids were too tired to walk at the end of that trip it's not necessarily because of the medication they were given, and my admiration for the Navy Seals who put themselves through all that multiple times is off the charts. We'll never know what they endured, but they endured it rather than let children die slow horrible deaths underground.

[quote] exposed to God knows what kind of microbes for two weeks

Pee-Pat’s microbes. That’s what kind.

That Canadian diver is a hottie.

Good Morning America interviewed an American Major who was in charge of the rescue in some capacity. I'm not sure if he was actually one of the divers, but he said there was only one diver per child, not two as previously stated and in many of the animations.

I'm waiting to hear about one of rescued falling in love with a foreign diver, this is the follow-up story in a few years.

The kids were largely asleep through the expedition, one of the rescuers said Wednesday.

“Some of them were asleep, some were wiggling their fingers … [as if] groggy, but they were breathing,” Commander Chaiyananta Peeranarong told AFP.

Did the kids fear they would be molested if sedated during the trip out ?

And they wanted KFC, not some stupid Asian fried chicken.

KFC serves Asian fried chicken, R501! Duh! Almost all awful American fast food joints tweak their recipes a bit to accommodate a different host nation's palate.

It was suggested they were heavily sedated so as not to panic because panic would have killed the diver and the kid. Since the Dr. that was with them was an anesthesiologist I am going to guess that he suggested the dosage. This might explain why at least one kid was strapped to a diver while they were swimming. The governor thanked the Dr. for he did but did not elaborate on what it was. None of it matters though because they got them out.

The most interesting thing in that story was that if that had happened in the US they would have not been allowed to sedate them at all. Then they would have all been screwed.

Seek intense psychiatric help, R501, as soon as possible.

Am anesthesiologist wasn't going to heavily sedated the kids when he couldn't monitor their vitals, or to the point where they might not be able to protect their airways.

He'd just give them a really comfortable dose of an anxiolytic. Sorry, gotta go.

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"I would have given myself up to any one of those little boys." There, I fixed it for you.

Which one is Pee-Pat at R508?

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Sedated. Tranquilized . Poor kids. They would have been manhandled.

[quote] Pipat as the second from the left, on the first row.

Pee-Pat. Get it right.

R314, Yes, I get it. But there are those rare times when I can't. I still dip into the holy water and make the sign of the cross when I enter a church. At this point, it's in my genes (that will never be passed down).

The pedo jokes are gross and NOT funny.

[quote]The most interesting thing in that story was that if that had happened in the US they would have not been allowed to sedate them at all.

I don't know if this was what the article reported or a skewed interpretation, but sometimes she load of shit that gets written here is breathtaking.

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Honestly, if a doctor prescribed it, then I won't complain. They made it out, and are now in recovery. For me, at least, the time for hand-wringing is past.

I'd want to be as sedated as possible in a similar situation. just knock me out and get me out of there!

Ya right, get them hooked on drugs early.

Who the fuck cares how they got them out. The point is they got them out.

Why is it so bad if the boys were knocked out properly to maintain their calm in the ascent to save their very lives? I would prefer to be unconscious and bouyant rather than conscious and panicking during a four hour ascent during a dirty, murky tunnel with zero visibility as I though the walls were collapsing in on me or I would drown with my limited oxygen supply. The Aussie anesthesiologist called this entirely right and managed to dose the children well enough so they wouldn't gag or panic in the water, not just killing themselves, but their rescuers and the entire international daisy chain that depended on everyone keeping his end calmly.

Small children in unforgiving and crazy circumstances cannot, contain themselves as some have suggested, so they got a sedative.

If it were me under there, I would choose to be knocked out because I should not be trusted under panic situations to do what is best for the group.

And why the complaints when everyone except for the national hero Thai Navy Seal?

Wrapped up in stretchers unconscious and passed from diver to diver like a piece of carcass ? Does that sound ok ?

After days of mounting speculation, a former Thai Navy Seal diver broke the silence, revealing the boys were sleeping or partially-conscious as they were passed from diver-to-diver through the cave. “Some of them were asleep, some of them were wiggling their fingers … (as if) groggy, but they were breathing,” Commander Chaiyananta Peeranarong said.

“My job was to transfer them along,” he said, adding the “boys were wrapped up in stretchers already when they were being transferred” and were monitored at regular intervals by doctors posted along the kilometres-long escape route.

You sound cunty, R524,

Why does R524 think sleeping and wiggling fingers is a bad outcome?

It's interesting too the first joint statement released by Dr Richard Harris and his dive partner Craig Challen, alongside declaring how humbled they were to have partcipated and contributed. Dr Harris says something along the lines too directly on the boys: "....thanks for placing their trust in him."

Sure, he has medical and technical expertise to have made that medical call, but can you imagine the undercurrent of stress he carried, if anything had gone medically wrong in that daisy chain sequence out along the kilometres of tunnel.

I'm glad he had the collegiate support along that daisy chain to have monitored that aspect competently.

The boys' parents hug and thank the divers.

So Pee-pat is stateless, without parents and speaks five languages? Impressive and heart-wrenching.

DON'T let St Angie near him!

Orherwise: from the Y/tube thread of comments beneath thus clip below:

B. Hagedash

" If 'a French [Canadian] speaker enthusiastically promoting English isn't one of the seals of the apocalypse, as mentioned in the bible, then it should be. :) "

LOVE the sign!

r517 it was written in the article. it also said if they had tried it here the parents would have been suing them and you can't tell me that isn't true because in this country we sue anybody for anything if it will make them and the lawyers a little money

also try reading. I said 𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙢𝙤𝙨𝙩 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙮. It was IN the story.

R525 Sorry if I don’t fancy being drugged and passed around from men to men like a piece of meat. Unlike you

Those kids were weak and exhausted and it would not have taken much to set off a panic attack or have them hyperventilating, etc. endangering themselves or others, so why not a very mild sedative to calm them? It makes sense. And having a genuine anesthesiologist administer it based on their weight, was a wise decision.

Don't release them too soon. I'm on my way! Where are the cameras?

Well, that Dr is a anesthesiologist! so he's the expert.

The players Pornchai Kamluang, Adul Sam-on and Mongkhol Boonpiam, plus their coach, Ekaphol Chantawong, whose families come from northern Thailand’s porous and largely lawless border regions abutting Myanmar’s Shan state, are technically stateless and not considered citizens under Thai law, leaving them without many of the rights their teammates enjoy.

The three boys have Thai ID cards, which grant them some basic rights, but the coach has no legal status, making him vulnerable to deportation and technically ineligible to receive some public services.

Venus Sirsuk, the director of the Bureau of Registration at the Thai interior ministry, confirmed his office was looking into granting citizenship to the four. “Right now, the officials in Mae Sai district office are looking into their birth evidence. We have to see whether they were born in Thailand, and whether they have either a Thai father or mother.”

Asked how long it would take, he told the Guardian: “I have no idea. It depends on whether we find the documents.”

Puttanee Kangkun, a Thai human rights specialist for Fortify Rights, said a lack of citizenship meant the four had limited rights.

“Under Thai law, stateless persons are still able to obtain some basic rights such as the right to education and access to health service. This is why some of these boys who are stateless are able to go to school, despite their status.

The people objecting to giving the boys a mild sedative must be part of that weird religion that doesn’t believe in surgery or blood transfusions. To save lives, people are often put under and have much more traumatic things done to them than being guided along a corridor.

Or this is trolling at its most idiotic

you would think they would give the coach Thai citizenship for saving all those Thai boys

The coach is a wetback and needs to be deported back to El Salvador ASAP.

Ketamine isn't a "mild sedative", it's an anesthetic or heavy-duty sedative, and I wouldn't have thought it possible to give it in conditions like that. Especially since people can get agitated or have hallucinations as it begins to wear off, which would be a danger to the child and the diver who's towing them along the cave. But it doesn't affect the vitals as much as most other such drugs so there you are.

Quite frankly, giving the kids something that serious and dragging them through miles of cold water was VERY dangerous, but if they decided it was less dangerous than any of the alternatives. Dang, I can't believe they carried it off, with the risks they took. Compliments to everyone involved, especially the doctor who got it right!

They should definitely give thai citizenship to the kid who speaks 5 languages. He helped communicate with the divers. Hope they all can get their paperwork sorted so they can go visit Manchester United.

R540, that’s Pee-Pat. Increasing alkaline levels in Thailand since 2004.

I hope the volunteer divers get lots of freebies and take up offers etc. They worked so hard! and the conditions were so tough...I wouldn't even go into that shitty muddy water even if you paid me! And to be in it for fucking 10 hrs at least!

Hopefully, they get bit parts in the 2 movies that they are gonna make about this.

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How did they get them through the deep water?

they pulled them.

Yes, they pulled them wearing full face masks, not just a mouthpiece and goggles.

All you pearl clutchers outraged that the boys were drugged are fucking ridiculous. Had they not drugged them, they’d still be in the cave and likely dead.

Definitely dead. The pumps malfunctioned and died not long after the last boy and the coach were evacuated. Everything reflooded and the remaining rescuers still in the cave had to scramble to get out and barely did.

It probably wasn't absolutely necessary to drug the boys with something that strong, but it gave the divers 100% control over the situation and if that's what they needed to get the job done then fine, drug the boys. Whatever it takes to get you through miles of cold filthy dangerous water, you studly divers you!

Free blowjobs at my place for any diver who was at that cave.

Drugged and bound (to stretchers) and passed from one man to another. Short of being gangbang everything’s fine. Happy now ?

Ketamine is used in injectable form for intractable depression in Los Angeles, California, legally. You’d have to put me in a coma to get me out of that place. I said that 5 threads ago because I would have panicked so bad, I would have managed to drown everyone in the vicinity. The weird trolls are showing up now.

This thread needs to end and the pedo comments gone. I have to say I have enjoyed the company of all you smart people, and now know the history of spelunking and may the good Lord keep me out of caves forever.

Pipat is not the boy who speaks five languages including English or left his family and crossed the border to go to school. That is Adul Sam-on.

ARE the boys up for adoption ?

Does no one here remember Ketamine as Special-K, from their clubbing days?

I have to agree with some of the posters here. What has come to light since this "rescue" has really diminished my experience as a viewer.

It started to go south for me when they allowed professional divers to go into the cave. Is that really what this story was supposed to be about? First it was divers, then it was doctors, then artificial lighting, then food and silver blankets, and on and on... That sort of thing would NEVER be allowed on Naked and Afraid!

And now we've learned that these professionals were allowed to physically pull the boys out, after still more professionals placed extra tanks all along the route! Seriously?? I won't even bother getting into the pumps, the full-face masks, the ketamine, the stretchers, the ambulances, the helicopters, the umbrellas, the antibiotics... You binged it with me; you know the deal.

They lost me. I promise you, I won't be back for more. This whole "rescue" has been negated as far as I'm concerned.

Next hurricane that hits New Orleans, we need to get Thailand on the case.

R555 Case of child abuse

R555, so the rescue was accomplished by experienced professionals who knew what would have to be done to make it happen as opposed semi-amateurs who probably would have failed but made it much more dramatic so you are out of here? Bye.

They're fine. They send their love.

R555, i just realized how brilliantly you trolled me. My hat's off to you.

R555 is obviously a facetious post.

R555 is making fun of the dorks complaining about ketamine etc.

R555 Well, it was said early on thread part 1 that this Cave was a complete bottom.

So far, all those divers are being ever so humble. I wonder where the egoist attention whore skank scuba Dude is, ready to dish all the inside scoop.

I want the inside documentary breakdown NOW!

A remarkable example of international cooperation. Here’s the smiling faces of the Australian contingent who, under the leadership of the Royal Thai Navy Seals, worked together with crews from China, the UK and the US to return the Wild Boars soccer team and their coach home.

Haven’t seen one big ego studying all these divers from everywhere. They are all humble and dedicated.

In case I get stuck like John Jones in the Nutty Putty cave, please cut off my arm and leg instead of singing Mormon hymns and giving me pizza.

That’s a great picture.

uh yeah, please pull me out soon after making me slimmer.

thailand is the place westerners go to pedophile little boys and girls, and of course heroin.

Da Bears.

R567 got it right away and thinks he can get away with it.

r567 that's what I thought. Whenever they show an American working there I always wonder why are you really there.

Pedophile is now a verb?

What a great video of the Wild Boars. The Thai script under the vidoe translates as, "When we have to win, we have to win more than the win, it is the only way to make us cry, we do not have to be shy to see tears."

I rescued all of those by myself!

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R574 Straight men don't get HIV.

The youth soccer team trapped in a Thailand cave for 18 days ventured inside just for “fun” — and only planned to spend about an hour there, according to a new report.

Aikhan Wiboonrungruang, 33, whose 11-year-old son Chanin — also known as Titan — was the youngest member of the Wild Boars soccer team, told The Bangkok Post she spoke to her son from behind a glass isolation barrier while he and his teammates recovered at Chiangrai Prachanukroh Hospital.

The boys had not taken along any snacks when they visited the Tham Luang Cave after their training session — and they did not want to spend more than an hour there, according to the report.

But when heavy rains caused a flash flood, the boys were forced to venture deeper into the cave.

“After the first three nights with no food in the cave, my son felt extreme hunger and cried,” Wiboonrungruang told the outlet. “He had to rely only on water dripping from the rock. It was very cold at night, and pitch-dark. They had to lie huddled together.”

Coach Ekapol Chathawong encouraged the boys to meditate to help ease their hunger and conserve energy, the mother said. He also used a torchlight to find water dripping from the cave ceiling to drink, Banphot Konkham, 45, father of Duangthep Phromthep, 13, told the outlet.

The last four boys on the 12-member team, along with their 25-year-old coach were rescued on Tuesday.

I want to give Pity Pat a long hug

The rescue is still surreal to me. I hope every video and inch of sonar or whatever mapping capability used is preserved and documented within an inch

I do not know why the fuck anyone would go there for fun, it's fucking dark and creepy!

And the rescuers are all saints! If I had the money, I would pay for them all to go on a much needed vacation! The waters are just fucking disgusting and gross looking from videos and can't believe they had to be in that environment for fucking 12 hrs!

[quote] The waters are just fucking disgusting and gross looking

Pee-Pat to blame for that.

The Thai diminution trolls are getting tiresome enough for rejection, aren't they? It wouldn't be too untoward to ignore the fuckers, would it?

This is a riveting read.

All the second-guessing about the rescue effort from the salesbottoms and retired hairdressers is also getting tiresome.

They should form a boy band.

The PornKorns, R584?

And now we learn from R582's link that the divers were allowed to do run-throughs in a swimming pool (a swimming pool!), a note containing outside advice from the coach's monastery was given to him, and the junior druggies, cozy and warm in their k-holes, were floated out cosseted inside snug little burrito wraps.

....and I feel the need to remind you once again of the ketamine. NEVER forget the ketamine.

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R574 Sandra Oh can play Amp, Rick Stanton's Thai translator Nurse girlfriend.

That's Diver Matt at extreme left at R564 among the Aussie contingent - I see he has respectable bulge.

Great link and read agreed, R582. The more details that emerge about the myriad technical aspects of this whole story from disappearance day and still going on while the Boars and cutie (blameless hero) Coach Ek are in quarantine isolation, the more amazing and fascinating it apoears in respect of human co-operative determination andi ingenuity.

For example, among many, the detail in that R582 WaPo piece about, say, the local Thai shrimp farmer who drives over 500 miles before the boys were even found, with his four generator pumps on a flat-bed vehicle just to try to contribute.

I hope notice is paid - if ever there was cause for a legit GoFundMe?!- to the more than 100 local farmers, now that many have left the scene, who with flooded fields have now lost their entire year's harvest.

The boys are to be discharged this Thursday! They're eager to eat some real food once they get back into their families' embrace.

[Quote]The 12 boys and their soccer coach rescued from a flooded cave in northern Thailand are recovering well and are eager to eat their favorite comfort foods after their expected discharge from a hospital next week.

[Quote]"All of the 13 people, their physical bodies are strong, and fit. Regarding infections, through the medical evaluations in the first days there may be some of them that had minor pneumonia, but now all is cleared, no fever," Piyasakol said. Several were also reported earlier to be recovering from minor lung and middle ear infections.

[Quote]A hospital statement said that as the boys continue to recover, they remain susceptible to infectious disease. To avoid mental stress, they should spend at least the next month only with family and friends, avoiding media encounters that might trigger post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms, the statement said.

Some more inside scoop by divers involved.

This worked for several reasons. The first is that the entire world worked as one unit. From the people at the site to those all over the world praying or sending good vibes. Also the help that came from the other side. I keep telling people they have no idea how much help we receive from the other side but most people either don't believe it or just ignore it.

I had something happen yesterday which I can't explain except that I know it had to have come from the other side. I was coming home on a two lane road (one lane each direction) and the speed limit is 55, most people do 60/65. There is a little town you go thru and the speed drops down to 35. I was in this town and I think I was doing 40 when an Amish wagon started pulling out onto the road with two young guys standing in it going in the opposite direction of me. I hit my brakes lightly just out of reflex and may have pulled slightly to my right. As the horses were rounding out onto the road and I was next to the wagon a large SUV doing at least 70 passed me and was between me and wagon. I have no idea where that SUV came from because I never saw him until he was right next to me and scared the crap out of me. There was no possible way that car could have fit between us because there just wasn't enough room. After I passed the wagon I looked in my rear view and both Amish guys were staring at the SUV which was now almost out of sight still doing about 70. Someone saved all of us.

[quote]About three hours after the last boys and Chantawong made it out on Tuesday, with the last navy personnel leaving the cave, the entire rescue system suddenly collapsed.

[quote]“All of a sudden a water pipe burst and the main pump stopped working,” Changkwanyuen said. “We really had to run from the third chamber to the entrance because the water level was rising very quickly – like 50cm every 10 minutes.”

[quote]Australian divers in chamber three described hearing screams further up the tunnel, then seeing a rush of head lamps coming towards them.

[quote]“It was like a movie scene, everything was collapsing,” Changkwanyuen said. “It was one of those acts of God. The cave spirit didn’t want us in there any more. It was saying, ‘I’ve had enough of you guys, it’s time to leave.’”

[quote]Rasmussen does not have a spiritual explanation, but agrees the timing was eerie. “That everything breaks down as soon as everybody’s safe? It’s just weird,” he said.

From 590's link.

Oh bull, R591. The rescue worked because hundreds of thousands did whatever they could, from letting their rice fields be flooded to doing one of the most dangerous dives imaginable over and over and tremendous personal risk.

And it was, I must say, an absolute masterpiece of project management! Everything was done when it absolutely had to be done, the whole thing should be taught in management and business programs as an example of how to accomplish a impossible task that was thought to be impossible. Bring in the experts, listen to what they say, find supplies for them, work in the time frame you have, and think outside the fucking box.

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Once we peel away the reply requested, you seem almost loving and careful about dying ppl on the other side of the universe,

[quote] From the people at the site to those all over the world praying or sending good vibes. Also the help that came from the other side. I keep telling people they have no idea how much help we receive from the other side but most people either don't believe it or just ignore it.

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R586 sounds so unwell. Might have he been deprived of life-giving oxygen at critical junctures?

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^I'm surprised they decided to reveal the diver's death to the children so soon. What a way to put a damper on the post-rescue exhilaration they were probably feeling up to that point.

Maybe their psychologists believe the sooner the better, r598? I would also think the coach will take that news the hardest and once again blame himself.

they knew they were going to find out as son as they left the hospital so was probably better that they told them