Why did everyone hate Winona Ryder?

Was she considered a bitch? I always thought of her as a mentally ill trauma case ( on account of the hippy parents.)

Nobody hated Winona, OP. If you want people to talk about her, you don't *necessarily* need to invent a negative headline.

Gwyneth Paltrow was the one who spread those rumors about Winona. Johnny Depp, too.

It's her voice. Whiny.

It's her voice. Whiny.

OP = Angelina Jolie!

I remember being hugely surprised when she was caught shoplifting. I don't remember ever hearing her apologize for it in public, or if not apologize then at least honestly explain why she did it, which is why she came off as a bit of a dumb rich Hollywood bitch who got her kicks from stealing. She turned from a likable and pretty little pixie into a bit of an arrogant cunt in an instant.

Gwyneth dared her to shoplift when they were out shopping. She was the one who called the police and the paps.

She came across as a cool person when she was a child/young adult actress but now she just seems mean.

R7. I assumed it was a way to escape a contract.

[quote] but now she just seems mean

r9 The only thing she's been in for years is Stranger Things and most of the other cast seem to sing her praises.

She is shit in stranger things.

I think she is mental, almost creepy.

r12 She plays hysterical over controlling mother pretty well. Which fits the character.

If she's hated it's because she's crazy. Richard Gere, who did that execrable movie "Autumn In New York" with her, loathed her. He called her "Nervous Nellie." And no, she never apologized for the shoplifting. She supposedly had been doing it for a long time, but got away with it by being a celebrity. But then she got called out on it, and it really showed her for who she really was. In an interview she said she didn't feel guilty about stealing because it didn't really "hurt" anybody. She is NUTS. Which is why she and Johnny Depp clicked for a while. They both were, and are, crazy.

I've always liked Ms Ryder.

She’s great in Stranger Things

She is mental. I read that bio written about Christian Bale by his former publicist and she comes across terribly in that. Batshit and abusive to the people around her.

Her attitude after she got busted trying to steal over $25,000 worth of stuff was shitty, too. She said she didn't think she needed to feel bad, because it was a "victimless crime." She went on stage at the MTV awards or somewhere like that making fun of the whole thing. As if we all find grand larceny [italic]hilarious[/italic].

I hated her in "The Age of Innocence" so I hold a grudge against her for that, too.

She seems a bit....I don't know....awkward (?) in her comeback commercial.

because she's a closet case

She's an overactor

fake tits

Winona

R18, SHE WAS AWFUL IN AGE OF INNOCENCE. Personally, I think the whole movie was just mediocre and her performance is a case-in-point. I think it's amusing when people say Sophia Coppola ruined the Godfather 3 and that Winona should have replaced her (she was originally supposed to have the role). Would Winona really do a better job? She was never a good actress. Stranger Things is the best acting she has ever done.

before nose job

I never knew of a single person hating her. Where did you get this?

Wasn’t she nominated for an Oscar for Age of Innocence?

She's pretty, but does have a bad reputation as being unstable. I have read people claim she is bi-polar, but not quite sure she was ever diagnosed. She creeps more than a few people out, according to a costume designer friend: brooding dark moods, and lots of staring apparently.

Miriam Margolyes is not a fan of Winona Ryder!

She looks like a boy there, R28

What R2 said. OP is a bitch who regularly trolls DL with his trolling headlines and many fall for it. You are feeding a troll.

Ryder, Winona. Hopping from musician to actor to musician with all the agility and speed of a starved hyena targeting a limping Thompson's gazelle. One of her well-earned Hollywood nicknames is "Wanna Ride Her?" Rumored to enjoy pleasuring herself far more than she enjoys or is capable of being pleased by her boyfriends. Has a crudely, stereotypically masculine approach to sex. Pothead and addicted to painkillers. Shoplifter. Broke up with Damon because he convinced her to make a bad set of investments, and she lost over $1 million. Has done good work with her community, though. Bi______. Linked with Ryan Adams, Dodi al Fayeed, Beck, Bono, Ed Burns, George Clooney, Matt Damon, Evan Dando, Daniel Day-Lewis, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr., David Duchovny, Adam Duritz, Jakob Dylan, Everlast, Jimmy Fallon, Dave Grohl, Corey Haim, Chris Isaak, Courtney Love, Brittany Murphy, Chris Noth, Dave Pirner, Charlie Sheen, Christian Slater, Mark Wahlberg, Paul Westerberg, Bruce Willis, and Pete Yorn.

[quote]I remember being hugely surprised when she was caught shoplifting. I don't remember ever hearing her apologize for it in public, or if not apologize then at least honestly explain why she did it, which is why she came off as a bit of a dumb rich Hollywood bitch who got her kicks from stealing. She turned from a likable and pretty little pixie into a bit of an arrogant cunt in an instant.

I agree with r7, r15. The shoplifting incident changed perceptions. Shoplifting is such a low-class thing to do anyway - and she didn't even try to make an excuse or show any contrition. She never really recovered because her career was fading anyway. Very high negatives.

R27, if she was, it was a giant mistake, like Jennifer Lawrence having two nominations and one win. She was bad in that movie and Dracula. Her campiest line ever: "take me away from all this....D.E.A.T.H".

Op is a muck racker. I bet he started the Quentin Tarantino is a closet case thread.

R30 Jesus I love Miriam Margolyes so fucking much.

Love me or hate me...but you can't deny I look damn good for 46.

It was never the same after that dreadful Ben Stiller film

When you invite her into your home she leaves with about half of it in her car.

Love her!

I never believed that story that she was considered for Shakespeare in Love, she's way too busty and she can't do a British accent. Also, if you are not considered for a role, you very unlikely get to even audition.

She's nuts, batshit crazy and not in a good way.

I like her. Never heard anything bad about her but if there is, can anyone of us say all of our coworkers love us or have loved us? Nope. She seemed to be struggling for awhile with something but she is great in Stranger Things.

Why did everyone hate Gracie Allen? Was she really as big a bitch as they say?

As old as she is she still seems like a teenager. It's like she's stuck at that age. I think that's due to mental illness.

She wasn't a bitch perse, people were just tired of all their jewelry and family heirlooms going missing from their trailers.

i love winona ryder!

Her godfather was Timothy Leary. Ducked up parents. I think her real name was Horowitz.

She thought she was cooler than you. There was a tendency with young actors of her era to act like fame and an acting career just fell into their lap(s) like they didn’t fight tooth and nail to get there. Tedious.

I could swear that Sigourney warned her about her behavior on the set of Aliens 3, I’ll have to google it now

Nobody hated her. In fact, she was wildly overrated as an actress. But as she lost the ability to hide her crazy while her box office returns kept tanking, the industry lost interest in protecting her.

I always loved her ever since Heathers, I thought people went overboard on her shoplifting arrest. If she really fucked all those guys at r33, then my hats off to her.

I'd have happily fucked many of those dudes, and Courtney, too.

Wasn't she the one Depp shot?

Most of you have heard the Charlie Sheen shooting Kelly Preston story, but there is one that would have made the world explode with gossip if this one had ever got out to the public. This couple was everywhere. They were all over every tabloid. The actor, all movies all the time is still A+. Back in the day not so long ago he was a drinking and drugging machine and had a thing for antique weapons. Still does. Brings them to the set all the time. Much more careful with them now though. His girlfriend at the time was A list. She was strictly a booze and cigs kind of person with the sometime coke night if she was really having fun. Well, one night, our actor was showing off a new gun he had purchased at auction and was drinking and playing around and swinging it and shot his girlfriend. Bam right in the ribs. The bullet sliced off a chunk of the side of her ribs right below her bra line. She was not wearing a bra at the time. She was naked. There was blood everywhere. They screamed for several minutes before one of them finally got the idea of trying to towel it off. Yeah, that did not last long. They then used the hotel room drapes. Finally our actor made a call and the hotel sent up a doctor. The girlfriend did not need surgery because it went in and out. It did cause her a whole lot of pain and to help with her pain she started using some stronger drugs which took her ten years to break. (CDAN)

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I worked as crew on a film called The Ten. She was a cunt on Day 1-she threw a bottle of water at a pa and screamed “I NEED WATER WITH ELECTROLYTES!”-but was OK the other days.

She was mean to her assistant. Used to score drugs with Keanu. I'm glad she's back. Mental health is still an illness, which most don't ever truly recover from.. Not enough love in her childhood?

I love Winona in Beetlejuice. She plays the role with such charismatic oddness. Rarely is the "weird" teenage type played with such emotional depth.

She ate her cheeseburger

Damn. I can’t find a gif of her screaming “Did you suck his CAWK?!” from “Black Swan”.

She's alright. Why have to babble to the public after embarrassing herself. It came out she was a pill head at the time with a Dr Feel Good and a bag of prescriptions. This Dr had many Holywood clients. The store theft was opioid induced.

If she balled half the guys on that list, some of you are jealous.

I don't think she looks "good" at R38. She looks crazy. And that outfit makes her look even crazier.

Are we sure that’s her, on the link R38 shared? If so, thanks Photoshop and mucho surgeries, because I can barely recognize her. She looks very much her age if not older on Stranger Things.

Ageless actresses pretty much all look alike between 45 and 65

[quote] Ageless actresses pretty much all look alike between 45 and 65

Poor things. I can't imagine looking that old.

She should have Oscared for THE AGE OF INNOCENCE. Her performance was sublime. Criterion recently released it on Blu-ray and we all should buy a copy and study it.

Geez R60, it took me 5 seconds!

R66, you're out of your mind. She is badly miscast. She should never be featured in anything that takes place before the 70s. Just look at how bad she is in Dracula.

I also thought she was iconic in THE CRUCIBLE. Another role she should have Oscared for. Show me another actress who impaled the part of Abigail Williams as good as she. Angela Bettis on Broadway in 2002 was criminal and Saoirse Ronan didn’t light the world on fire in 2016. Winona’s Abigail slayed us. Slayed. Us.

I think her breasts are real. They are full but not round like implants. She's always been busty.

I always thought she was the female Keanu - both very attractive, both limited (but sometimes effective) actors, both not suited to period. Coppola was really pushing it when he put both of them in Dracula.

[quote]I don't think she looks "good" at [R38]. She looks crazy. And that outfit makes her look even crazier.

She does sort of look like your aunt who walks around at night and talks to things ...

Winona and Keanu absolutely ruined "Bram Stoker's Dracula." God knows what Coppola was thinking,

I can't stand her, but I thought she was great in The Crucible. I don't know why she was able to be so good in that part and so fucking annoying in everything else. It could be because she was playing a crazy person.

um did you see her weird behavior and facial spasms when that dude was giving the speech at the golden globes???

Winona Ryder is girl interrupted.

White jacket soon and padded walls.

Love her!

I actually think she's a good actress, she's a scene stealer quite often. She's just nuts in real live.

In a recent Howard Stern interview, Claire Danes said they had a bad falling out. Definitely inferred it was Winona who ran afoul of her and not the other way around. So between her and Gwyneth, Winona has some blonde detractors in the biz.

R33 Linked with Ryan Adams, Dodi al Fayeed, Beck, Bono, Ed Burns, George Clooney, Matt Damon, Evan Dando, Daniel Day-Lewis, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr., David Duchovny, Adam Duritz, Jakob Dylan, Everlast, Jimmy Fallon, Dave Grohl, Corey Haim, Chris Isaak, Courtney Love, Brittany Murphy, Chris Noth, Dave Pirner, Charlie Sheen, Christian Slater, Mark Wahlberg, Paul Westerberg, Bruce Willis, and Pete Yorn.

90% of the guys you named are gay lol

r75 I'll cut her some slack for that because David Harbour kind of went insanely off script, and she was clearly drunk (and probably something else looking at the rest of that shows cast).

That pic is incredible, R80. Pharmaceuticals galore.

It's said Corey Haim did or said something cruel to her when they worked together on LUCAS, cruel enough to warrant an apology some 20 years later.

She was lovely in that film, and subtle. It's an underappreciated performance of hers.

She has said she was heavily bullied as a child, and had some very bad depression over the years. That may contribute to her "weirdness." I still find her beautiful and fascinating.

For a while, her and Jane Wiedlin of the Go-Go's really looked similar.

What a stupid thread. WHO is EVERYONE? I have never heard of any industry hate towards Winona at all, much less from fans.

In Jane Wiedlin's dreams she was beautiful like Ryder.

She was a bitchy diva and she is crazy. After her shoplifting incident industry wasn't trying very hard to get her back into the fold, so It means industry was pretty much done with her.

Nobody hated her.

OP is just an inept shit stirrer.

If you’re too lazy to Google and you want to know the dirt on Winona Ryder, why don’t you just ask, “What’s the dirt on Winona Ryder?”

She stole things from department stores and she’s a little batty.

But nobody “hates her.”

R88, Gwyneth hated her for sure, she ghosted her in of her GOOP releases. Industry clearly didn't like her a lot after 2001 either. See her career for reference.

This thread is just repetitive. It's boring.

Winona Ryder has borderline personality disorder. Duh.

Wasn't there some gossip awhile ago about how nasty and cuntish she was to service people and assistants as well as being a total klepto who would steal and/or borrow belongings forever?

Sotto voce: she is said to be a thief.

I think her creepy whisper talking works better now that she's older.

* about her cleptomania. My family severly dysfunctional and my older sister has been a clepto for as long as I can remember, even as an adult who makes six figures. It sort of a family joke but she denies it. Even if she's got it in her hands. We just laugh. My therapist said it's control thing and a cry for help simulteneously.

"I think her breasts are real. They are full but not round like implants. She's always been busty."

No, she hasn't. I've seen early pictures of her where she's wearing a low cut black dress; I think she was out with Johnny Depp in those photos. She had no tits. In later photos she has melons where there once was none. So yes, they are definitely fake.

Many crazy people are beautiful, luck of the genetic draw. She still is very attractive for her age.

Gwynie hates anyone that didn't have to suck Harv's dick for a role.

Her boobs were always big.

I wonder if some beautiful successful people in showbiz are high functioning on the spectrum. Theres a segment of some high functioning autistics who aren't traditionally social awkward. They are incredibly smart and therefore that doesn't leave them completely socially clueless, as well as being good looking so it kinda goes undetected and they probably have never even been diagnosed..

I don't think she had implants, her boobs were always big.

Yeah, she always had big natural boobs, which was surprising given her tiny frame. She does not strike me in any way as the type that would get big implants considering that for many years she dressed like a homeless Amish person. Meaning her big thing was she didn't try to look sexy at all.

"Her boobs were always big."

Nope, they weren't. And no matter how many time you say it (you've repeated yourself several times) there are photos that show she once had a flat chest, and did NOT have the suspiciously round globes that she sported after getting herself a pair of fake tits.

Did she and Christian Bale used to date? I know that she used to associate with him, I think she was even the one who introduced him to his wife Sibi.

She was a kid when she started in the industry, as you well know r102, and surprise! boobs grow as women get older.

Courtney Love once said that Winona had the most perfect breasts she had ever seen. & you know Courtney’s seen a lot of tits in her day.

[quote]there are photos that show she once had a flat chest

well post them then

[quote] there are photos that show she once had a flat chest,

She started out as a child actress. of course she started with flat chest: all women do.

I've put you on "Ignore" because you're so repetitive.

Winona is a Scorpio sun/ Pieces Moon so of course she’s cray cray

*Pisces I meant

"I've put you on "Ignore" because you're so repetitive."

You're the repetitive one, what with your insistence that Ryder always had naturally large breasts on her little stick figure, you silly twat.

She has lopsided tits

I don't care if she's a bitch; I don't have to deal with her. She's so quintessential 90s. I probably have a positive image of her due to liking a lot of her 90s stuff and that being a good time in my life. Again, why do I care if she's a bitch?

This picture is from 1989 (she was 18) and she's already looking pretty ample, especially given how thin she is. There are tons of photos on Google image search of young Winona with big boobs. I'm also sure there were times when she wore clothing that concealed or flattened them, which isn't hard to do.

Heathers promo shot. She would have been 16/17 at the time.

Great Balls of Fire premiere. Too droopy to be implants or stuffed/push-up bra.

OP isn't inept, r88.

The fact is a LOT of threads go unnoticed on DL unless the subject line is basically clickbait. That's what this OP does. And as stupid as it is, it works. If he'd used something more generic this would have died down 75 replies ago.

If you don't like it then maybe stop giving attention to clickbait and start reading other threads for a change.

R95 may be talking about these photos, which is hilarious because she clearly is not flat chested here.

First she stole our hearts, then she stole our stuff.

This article hits the "Juicy Article" Hall of Fame!

Google (verb): Jay Kay and Winona Ryder

I haven’t seen Lucas since the 80s. Did she have hooters in that one?

She doesn't have those melon tits at R117. She's definitely had work done in the chest area.

She started developing early. By 12, she was wearing a D-cup, and classmates nicknamed her "Frisbee Nipples".

That hilariously awful picture of Depp and Ryder at R117 is from 1991. Taken well after the pics at R113 and R115. She's got boobs under that blouson dress at R117, and minus supportive garments they are held up by the miracle of youth. Without some hefty boobs there, the open top of that dress with all that material would open like a loose robe and expose her nipples.

She dated that hideous dread wearing lead singer of Soul Asylum, which were a one hit wonder band.

But she was also in Mermaids, which had Cher’s second best performance, and got to have sex with that hunk Michael Schoeffling.

Don’t forget she was Spock’s mother in Star Trek.

R123 Depp is dressed poorly but his face is perfection.

R121 doesn't understand the relationship between gravity and a push up bra.

Never thought of as a "talk show-ready" actress like Julia Roberts, Jennifer Lawrence or Drew Barrymore, so the public rarely gets to see the real Winona (or even the talk show-ready Winona). Can you imagine her on WWHL, with Andy playing one of his goofy games with her?

Lovvvve Winona Ryder - quirky, weird, pretty, real human.

Winona in Edward Scissorhands, filmed in 1990. That's a 32C bust, minimum; more likely a 32D.

She’s apparently an awful person (the most diva-ish blind item I ever read was supposedly about her). She’s also a terrible actress. All of that said, she’s gorgeous and the camera loves her. I think she had great roles in the 80s, too (Edward Scissorhands, Heathers, Mermaids, etc).

Ed scissor & mermaid were early 90s

R131 - I certainly do not know her, but I do know plenty people who work in the business behind the scenes and have done so for 35 years or more. I have never heard about the diva behavior. Kooky, weird, friendly, eclectic - yes. Mean, stuck-up or evil - no. And was stunningly gorgeous in an other-wordly sort of way back in her heyday. He face was angelic and her body envy-educing for women the world over. Judging from her dating life, men found her even more attractive. She has aged nicely also. It's hard to be a knock-out past 40 yoa.

"She has aged nicely also."

Not really. She looks strange. She oddly looks young and old at the same time, like some kind of old teenager. She's obviously a very disturbed person; the drug use, the compulsive promiscuity, the serial shoplifting. Look at pictures of her, with those crazy eyes of hers. She is fucked UP. And what about her behavior at the SAG awards where she was making bizarre faces and looking like she was a total nutcase? I wonder what she was on that night. Anyway, I have never heard that she was a particularly nice person. Really fucked up people generally aren't that nice.

[quote]Look at pictures of her, with those crazy eyes of hers.

Crazy, but beautiful.

When you have facial structure like this, who needs to be sane?

I was in the dentist chair when her shoplifting arrest came on the news. My dentist told me the patient before me worked at a pharmacy and said Winona is on all sorts of pills.

(sort of makes you wonder about patient privacy. Sort of surprised the pharmacy worker told on her and that my dentist repeated it. He wasn't a dentist very long. He was like a Doogie Howser type prodigy who went thru school really fast and burned out as a dentist at like 35. Too bad. He was really hot. I had a crush on him.)

People began to dislike her because she used to pass herself for this smart nice girl and then it turned out she is crazy, on drugs, commits crimes, has bitchy character.

fake tits fake nose fake persona fake relationships overrated actress

She seems to be on the edge of crazy...maybe she had too much attention or too much acid.

Probably molested by a producer.

Winona Ryder Was Gay-Bashed Out Of High School, Shares The Story In V

Her tits aren’t fake r138.

However she is bat shit insane and she became insufferable at the height of her fame when she was so sour all the time. She was a huge star, banging Johnny Depp at the height of his hotness and she behaved like it was all so tedious. Then she stole stuff and behaved as though an injustice had been done to her when she was caught. Nail in the coffin of her sinking career.

"Her tits aren’t fake."

And just how would you know? In photos they're now you seem 'em, now you don't. There are photos where she has prominent melons and other photos where there are none. Peculiar, no?

Winona was all the genX boys fantasy in the 90s. What actress do you think nowadays is like Winona during the 90s?

Jazz Jennings

I remember PR people saying by fighting the shoplifting thing she just prolonged it. She even was sort of confrontational with the judge and had bizarre excuses like she helped in the case of that missing murdered girl Polly Klass so she should be forgiven.

Experts were saying if she had just plead guilty, admitted to doing it because of drugs or a mental issue, and done an interview with Oprah she would have been done with the whole mess in a few weeks but it went on for a long time.

That’s what makes crazy folks so hard to manage:

They just can’t see the cray

Did her and Keanu date? They have done four movies together.

R148, I think Dracula was enough.

Their new movie looks really bad.

She's a crazy liar considering JT Leroy was a fictional character. Does she believe her own delusions? She is STUNNING in this video though.

Winona and Keeanu are like the male and female version of each other.

"Winona and Keeanu are like the male and female version of each other."

I don't think so. He was never crazy like she is. And what "four" movies did they do together? I thought they only did one movie together, that execrable "Bram Stoker's Dracula" in which they were both laughably bad.

Reeves and Ryder were both in Dracula, A Scanner Darkly, The Private Lives of Pippa Lee and now Destination Wedding.

A Scanner Darkly (Great movie), Dracula, Private Lives of Pippa Lee (Good movie) and now Destination Wedding.

Age of innocence was a colossal bore though. Not really fair to hold Horowitz to blame for it.

Beetlejuice Reality Bites Edward Scissorhands Girl, Interrupted Heathers Little Women Age of Innocence Scanner Darkly Black Swan Mermaids Stranger Things

To me that is a quality Filmography. No one from Julia Roberts to Emma Stone comes close in terms of being in movies that I can consistently watch over again throughout the years.

It was as if Noni didn't even exist during the aughts. and the aughts SUCKED.

In the 90's I went to a music festival and Soul Asylum was playing. She was there and there was a scuffle between the band that went on before and the Soul Asylum guy, I think she fucked them both and she and the guy were screaming at each other. A band wrote a song about her "Winona's Big Brown Beaver", she had a reputation for fucking a lot of the band guys. Can't say I blame her, she had a lot of hot guys back in the day.

"To me that is a quality Filmography."

Not really. The movies she has been in have been, by and large, without much substance. And she kept playing the same type over and over: the twitchy, neurotic girl. Even in her twenties and thirties and beyond she still comes across as a girl, not a woman.

She's the real deal.

R160, plus, even if it's quality filmography, let's not forget she is rarely the best part of those movies.

You forgot lucas

I'm still waiting for Beetlejuice 2.

Brilliant. Just brilliant thespian. She carried THE AGE OF INNOCENCE remarkably. Master class in acting and in humanism.

"Brilliant. Just brilliant thespian. She carried THE AGE OF INNOCENCE remarkably. Master class in acting and in humanism."

Shut up, Winona. "Briliant thespian?" Girl, you need to take your medication.

The Age of Innocence is overblown mediocrity, characterized by Winona's tepid performance.

That’s hilarious r151. I think she told vanity fair the same story.

I thought the trailer for Destination Wedding was fun! But I looked at the other credits for its director/writer and was pretty much crap. Still, I’m hoping it does well if only to piss off Goop a little.

She did terrible acting on Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Also, she should have just pled no contest or guilty for her shoplifting charge instead of taking it to trial and losing.

For anyone wondering about the Winona hate, I direct you to this thread and its comprehensive R1 which details her alleged horrid behavior via blinds. I would have copied and posted it here, but it's from 2010 when more characters could be fit into one post. Do they predate CDAN or his penchant for confabulation?

The descriptions really do fit her

Whenever I think of Winona Ryder, I think about how everyone just assumed that one day she'd be a huge star. People talked about her in the industry like it was a foregone conclusion, but she was in one bomb after another. They tried everything to make it happen. She even did an Alien movie and an Adam Sandler(!) movie just so she could be in a hit movie for a change. Nothing worked. Audiences just never took to her. The last straw was Girl, Interrupted when Angelina Jolie came out of it the movie a star and the Oscar winner and it was Winona's movie!

she was great in her small part in Black Swan, and I will always love Mermaids

Thanks R171, I was thinking of those blind items when so many here were claiming that Ryder was not widely despised in the industry. She had heaps of fans and was a luminous presence on screen but she was hell on wheels in real life.

Yeah, R174, those stories/gossip were the first that came to mind. The young. sensitive ingenue becomes the horror she beheld. I wonder if her association with inveterate addicts/alcoholics helped mold her into an intolerable neurotic, at best, or pill head, at worst. How did they affect her in future contract negotiations if she kept having junkies in her life? How could she function on the set?

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I love her. She’ll always be my big star.

What kinda f*cked up person hates Winona Ryder?

It is our duty on this planet to protect Winona at all costs

1980s

1990s

2000s

Hahaha

Never change, Winona...

I never heard of a single person who hated her.

I just recently rewatched Dracula. When I originally saw it I thought she was pretty bad. On the rewatch I decided it was more the movie was bad. There are some beautiful and imaginative shots and nice costumes, but the acting is pretty bad throughout (Goldman's Dracula is not really that compelling and Hopkins is a clown) and the writing is really bad. I am not sue anyone could have pulled of that triangle. Stoker would not have been happy they made his strong heroine act like a love sick teen. I remember when I first saw thinking they should have at least had her a bit more torn and showed she loved her husband but was fighting something she did not understand. On the rewatch, she rand Goldman were not that much less wooden in their love than she and Rivers.

She was good as the quicrky teen type such as in Beetlejuice. I have heard she was good in Little Women. She was pretty shrill in Starnger Things (although she got better). That might have been more the character was just annoying, but I do think some of it was her acting style.

Now that I am older, I can see that she isnt really a good actor, and she has so many acting tics that are annoying. Just looking at the trailer of her new movie with keanu reeves, they both look and sound awful. She was beyond cool in the 90s though.

Winona's boob job was a reduction. She had naturally huge tits (especially on her small frame) and had them trimmed down. She's talked about it in interviews.

She had a speech impediment that sounded like she was sucking on a jawbreaker or sourball.

"Did you shee me in Little Women?" They shaid I was glorishly alive"

I love how after she became famous, her old school bullies asked her for autographs and she told them to fuck off after she told them she never forgot what they did to her.

If I were Wino's boyfriend I would be pissed.

Winona Ryder is one of the most awful people I’ve ever met, and that’s a shame because I loved her work and had nothing but admiration for her outsider roles and edgy image.

She’s one of the shittiest, bitchiest assholes I’ve ever met. She needs fucking electoshock.

192-Could you please elaborate? What did she do/say that was so awful?

She screams “borderline”.

She still looks stunning

Why hasn't she aged? Faustian Pact?

Do you think Winona still does drugs?

R192 please elaborate.....

We can't take our eyes off her.

Thin, reedy whine-voice.

....

How very.

Destination Wedding is getting bad reviews. Would love to see her work with more modern "hip" directors like Sofia Coppola or Spike Jonze.

Tim Burton directed.

As Sarah Silverman said on Dinner For Fiver years ago, had Winona kept Horowitz as her real last name she never would have been turned into a star or got all those leading roles.

She became Winona Ryder because a Mitch Ryder record was playing in the background when an agent or reporter? asked for her name. At least that was the story she told to Jane magazine way back. Her parents were big NorCal hippies.

Why should they love her?

They love you, but I know you...

Because she's no Janeane Garofalo

R203, Destination Wedding is a flop. It was panned by critics (has only 39% on RT, yikes) and bombed at the BO, it's already on Amazon. I guess movie is really awful and people are not really interested in seeing Keanu Reeves and Winona on screen together in rom com.

scarey psychopathic thief.....

Because much like her characters --- weird, odd, screwed up, no positive personality traits, not to mention being nasally-challenged --- she's the same way in real life.

That's just what I've been told from Hollywood insiders.

What does nasally challenged mean? Anyone?

"I also thought she was iconic in THE CRUCIBLE. Another role she should have Oscared for."

You're nuts. She was godawful in that. That movie was SO bad. Daniel Day-Lewis was yet another guy who supposedly had an affair with her. From what I've heard about Ryder she is known for a being slutty and a druggie and mentally ill. Judging from her behavior I believe all of that.

Calling her "slutty" says more about you than anything else. Her sex life is irrelevant.

She has also been dating this stud for years. Hardly "slutty".

I don't think she ever apologized for the shoplifting. She's admitted she had mental illness problems at that time, but no, no apologies, at least that I've heard.

Whom would an apology be directed at? The general public because shoplifters "raise the prices"? Gimme a break!

"She has also been dating this stud for years. Hardly "slutty."

You don't know anything about her, do you? She was so slutty she got the nickname "Wanna Ride Her." Mentally ill people are often compulsively promiscuous. She's certainly proof of that.

"Whom would an apology be directed at? The general public because shoplifters "raise the prices"? Gimme a break!"

She could have said "I'm sorry for what I did", you idiot. But she wasn't sorry. She didn't think it was a big dead. She's pathological.

She sounds like a woman who enjoys sex and is not ashamed. She has a hot body-that's for sure. And if half the guys she has rumored to been with is true, she is a lucky girl!

[R210] Did it even come out yet?

Her reputation as wanna rider her only came about by her PR people because she was going to be outed a lesbian. And they knew her fanbase of geek boys would be destroyed.

All her relationships have been fake. Look at her high school picture. She was a boy.

Strictly beards.

Ask Matt Damon.

Janeane Garofalo is better.

"All her relationships have been fake."

I seriously doubt that. The one with Johnny Depp certainly wasn't. I thought they were perfect for each other. Both of them were, and are, crazy.

R222, yes, it came out on 31 August. Really bad and boring movie.

Ryder and Reeves are rather long in the tooth to be in a romcom. I guess it was thought their "star power" would bring in people to see it. Didn't happen. Of course it didn't. Reeves and Ryder are not hot young stars anymore, haven't been for a long time. Who the hell would want to see them in a romcom? What a bad idea.

her pussy stinks real bad..REAL BAD...

She's a 12th Houser, with Neptune in domicile. It wouldn't have mattered if she did it all differently, she'd still be misconstrued and end up on the wrong side of everything at some point. You have to sink to find sunken treasure...

At least we can take comfort that even in her depression years she probably did what she wanted for the most part, and went down swinging (except maybe where Depp was concerned, and fuck him with a working chainsaw for doing what he did to her).

R227, Winona doesn't have any star power anymore. ST is a hit, but it's the kids who steal all the attention. Keanu has some power with his John Wick franchise but outside of that public is not very interested in his movies. His Siberia movie this summer was a big flop as well.

Noni will rise again.

R231, she will never be a star like in the 90s. That train has gone.

She's a fucken ICON. Coolest and most interesting actress of her generation.

She does the crazy mom thing well

I never knew Winona Ryder and Timothee Chalamet were the same person.

She is mental. Crazy motherfucker and annoying as fuck!

THE ORGINAL WDEH thread, the best, and the only arguably necessary one. Though even this one is a silly set up.

I loved her.

That whiny voice. Unbearable.

Yes, she always had this petulant teenage girl's voice. She still does.

She's beautiful, rich, famous, even though her career cooled. Everyone hates the shit out of a beautiful woman, especially if she doesn't play second fiddle to a man. No surprises there.

I don't think she was ever hated. She was just considered mentally ill and unreliable. She had two major incidents: backing out of The Godfather at the last moment and then the shop lifting thing that was just considered so odd and strange that people were afraid to hire her for a long time. She's bounced back now with Stranger Things.

R233, she WAS an icon in 90s. That's long gone. She is a has been now.

She was allegedly nicknamed Wanna Rideher. I hope she wasn’t another victim of Hollywood’s Pedo Industrial Complex.

R234, probably because she is crazy in real life.

I keep hearing she's "SO CRAZY!" but besides some blind items has anyone actually experienced this and could you elaborate? She comes across as very humble and a reserved in interviews-the opposite of "crazy". "Crazy" I will reserve for Lohan.

"Everyone hates the shit out of a beautiful woman, especially if she doesn't play second fiddle to a man. No surprises there."

You're full of shit. There are plenty of beautiful women who are NOT "hated." And nobody hates her for being beautiful, rich, famous, all that crap. She's been hated because she's a nutty, slutty. druggie kleptomaniac. After all the shoplifting business was over she said she didn't think she'd done anything wrong because she didn't "hurt" anybody. That comment alone is reason enough to hate her.

"I keep hearing she's "SO CRAZY!" but besides some blind items has anyone actually experienced this and could you elaborate?"

Well, here's a couple of examples. She and Richard Gere worked on an execrable movie called "Autumn In New York." They couldn't stand each other. She was so off the wall that he nicknamed her "Nervous Nellie." And did you catch her appearance on the SAG awards where she was making faces like a lunatic? The excuse for that was that she couldn't' "hear" the guy who was making the speech, but she was standing right near him, so that was a load of bullshit. She has serious mental problems and always has.

[quote]I hated her in "The Age of Innocence"

That's you're problem. The scene in which she delivers the news to Newland that she is pregnant, wholly aware that this will trap him into the marriage and end his affair with Olenska, who he loves, is devastating.

Fark. Your ^

Tell us more, R192.

So glad she is on one of the most popular shows-Her career is nothing to dismiss. She is totally an icon. LOVE HER! Why hate on her? Hate on J Law or frog face Emma Stone.

I don't hate her. But she's a horrible actress imo. I just watched The Iceman from 2012. Not a good movie. Her writers didn't give her much but good actors can sometimes turn bad writing into something watchable. She can't. I'd rank her alongside Ali MacGraw and Diana Scarwid.

Winona Ryder was great in a lot of films - I like her a lot !!

"She is totally an icon. "

She's not a fucking '"icon." She never was, although she was some kind of "It Girl" for a while, especially when she was hooked up with Johnny Depp. And she's in tv now because her film career has been in the toilet for along time. Oh she still does the occasion film, but it's usually a small cameo role or a leading role in a crummy movie. Her latest attempt is some godawful romcom with Keanu Reeves that sank like a stone.

Depp & Ryder were the "it" couple for quite awhile. Now, look at them. Pathetic.

Depp just got the cover of British GQ which is so fucking sad. The usual fake image calling him an outlaw on the cover. Pathetic and FALSE. The guy has someone hired to rip his jeans and dirty his boots. Totally sham image.

It's astonishing he's still around. Or alive.

I think her face at the SAG awards was more due to confusion. David Harbour (who is bipolar) was clearly having a manic episode and his speech was an odd rallying cry like he was preparing to lead troops into battle.

I hate her because she had a bowel movement on my balcony.

I find it rather telling that she’s almost 50 and has never been married.

R260 Who are you to judge?

Because she is a nutty kleptomaniac who actually is a very limited actress with a limited range. Her glory days were in 90s and are over.

Someone has an unhealthy hatred of this woman. You would think she ran over their dog or something. Dont believe everything you read in gossip rags. I was always under the impression that she played her by her own rules regarding her career and the powers that be in Hollywood do not like that-They can take you down and leak info true or not.

I wonder if she and Bono are still fucking? They were quite the item at one time.

R263, Hollywood didn't take her down, she did it all by herself.

R264, if they are still fucking it means she is cheating on her BF then, lol.

possibly the fugiest and least talented woman to achieve 'stardumb'...

good old poppa coppola...

I'm envious. She's pretty and during her cum pig years she hoovered a lot of fine dick.

R268, too bad it didn't keep her sane.

[quote] Was she really as big a butch as they say?

FIFY.

"if they are still fucking it means she is cheating on her BF then, lol."

And her cheating on her boyfriend is beyond the realm of possibility? Not with THIS chick. She's Wanna Ride Her, after all.

I'd LOVE for her to do a tell all biography, and sell it, would make for a fantastic set of projects. Her image is what it is, she should capitalize on her infamy while she can. If she doesn't others will given her background in the business and lists of former friends/flings. Could be epic.

Also, NEVER see any mention of her in 1969 with RJD (their mom was the most interesting character in the movie) had a great soundtrack but was really thorough crap!

I don't think she'd ever do a "tell all" biography, unless she was really hard up for money. She would never want to come clean about her mental illness, her drug use, her promiscuity, her kleptomania.

She is waaay too private of a person to write a tell-all. That is part of her allure. The only time she opened up to the full extent when was she was promoting Girl, Interrupted and discussed dealing with depression and mental illness.

Poor Winona! I guess she thought "Girl, Interrupted" would be her crowning achievement and that she'd be nominated for an Oscar. But it turned out to be a melodramatic piece of crap (Susanna Kaysen, the author of the memoir it was based on, hated it) and Angelina Jolie totally stole her thunder, winning an Oscar (which she didn't deserve). However, her perpetually twitchy, nervous teenage look and manner served her well in that movie, though. She was 27 playing a 17 year.

R275, well she is still perpetually twitchy with nervous look and teenage voice.

Her and Johnny remind me of a 90's Selena and Justin.

Is it fair to compare her to Debra Winger?

puss stinks

She has extraordinarily beautiful eyes.

Batsh*t crazy

[quote] Her father's family was originally named "Tomchin" but took the surname "Horowitz" when they immigrated to the United States.

Fuckin weird.

forget the vagina, the armpits odor makes you want to vomit vociferously.

She has crazy eyes

"Is it fair to compare her to Debra Winger?"

No. They're both crazy but Ryder's craziness is different from Winger's.

why honeypie I reckon she jus hates her own little ole self....

her real calling was to be a librarian, who steals art books from the library from the Rare Book Collection.

Alien 4, R50

She gives great interviews. She has warmth and charm.

Longer hair suits her now that she is mature.

"Longer hair suits her now that she is mature."

Mature in age. But she still gives the impression of being a nutty teenage girl.

I bet she votes straight ticket Green party.

R290 No, she does not. She gives off an Earth mother vibe.

"No, she does not. She gives off an Earth mother vibe."

No, she gives off a crazy vibe.

Are her brothers Yuri and Jubal cute?

her breath smelled like toilet seat and tampon.

She was a 90's fashion icon.

R296. She was. Now she is a nutty has been.

beautiful gowns

Beautiful woman-so glad she is A list again. She deserves the best after the way Hollywood chewed-her-up and spat-her-out.

Best actress of her generation.

She's not "A-list." She's doing tv because her film career is over. And she was never "the best actress of her generation." She was a Hollywood It Girl for a time, but that time has been long over.

She's the lead in one of the most popular TV shows around. She is A+ list.

"She's the lead in one of the most popular TV shows around. She is A+ list."

Uh, no. She's reduced to tv work because she can't get lead roles in films anymore. That's not "A+ list.." You must be her agent or something.

Jonah Hill, Emma Stone, Matthew Mcconaughey, James Franco, Kirsten Dunst, Reese Withersppon, Nicole Kidman and many others do TV now. All A list.

STUNNING

"Jonah Hill, Emma Stone, Matthew Mcconaughey, James Franco, Kirsten Dunst, Reese Withersppon, Nicole Kidman and many others do TV now. All A list."

Ryder does it because she HAS to. She doesn't get major roles anymore. Her latest effort (an awful romcom with Keanu Reeves) sank like a stone.

Whether Ryder is A-list or not is a perfectly valid discussion topic, but appearing in a television/streaming series is not proof of anything. The model where "movies" outrank "tv" is long over, and anyone who still follows that line of thinking is living in the 90s. Or is Tom Cruise. Same difference.

Ryder is not A- list anymore. She doesn't have any projects besides ST series and if she occasionally gets any projects they flop like her latest movie. And even in ST series she is not the main draw as that girl who plays Eleven stole all the hype and thunder.

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Beautiful eyes with depth and passion

R310, with deep batshit insane look yeah.

What's wrong with her at R309? Or is that one of her normal facial expressions? I think it probably is.

She is quirky

We hated her because she was stupid enough to leave her "Shakespeare In Love" script on the table where GOOP was able to steal it and steal the role away from her, thereby ruining a potentially good movie.

she's superb

I just started watching Stranger Things. WTF is going on with her voice? Is the affectation intentional? And her wig is horrid; it's like helmet, it never moves!

Her glory days are behind her. Hélas, comme pour beaucoup d'entre nous.

She is amazing in Stranger Things-several prestigious nominations. She is adored by Hollywood.

R318, adored by Hollywood? Ahaha ha. Sure that's why Hollywood dumped her for years, she got zero awards for ST (she got one as part of whole ensemble) and Hollywood doesn't offer her new projects.

She respects her free-time and that is important for her mental health. She is choosy about her career.

R320,sure, perfect excuse when nobody actually offers you good projects. As for choosy, don't even pretend it, her latest movie was real garbage.

"She is amazing in Stranger Things-several prestigious nominations. She is adored by Hollywood."

"Adored by Hollywood?" Oh shut the fuck up, you stupid troll. You're as crazy as she is.

She wasted her talent and lacked ambition.

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2018 Blind Item #10 How long has it been since you heard this former almost A- list mostly movie actress walking out of a store with something that doesn't belong to her. It used to be an everyday thing back in the day. Apparently it happened this weekend, but she says it is all a misunderstanding and that the owners didn't call the police. She just forgot to take out a pair of earrings she tried on before walking out of the store. POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 11:00 AM

That girl got talent, she just couldn't leave the store without STEALING!

That's a common trick used by shoplifters; try something on and walk out of the store wearing it. Poor Winona, still stealing to get a thrill.

Poor Winona, still crazy, still stealing.

She is a muse for many many musicians who have wrote whole albums about her-such as Beck and Page Hamilton from Helmet. Pete Yorn, Ryan Adams, Conor Oberst, Wilco, Mathew Sweet and so many many more have written many songs. She is a legend.

"She is a legend."

In your own mind, maybe. But the public at large knows her for what she is: a neurotic, slutty, druggie kleptomaniac.

2019 will be Winona's year! I predict many awards and a role in a new hit movie. I also predict some sort of lifetime achievement award.

she is amazing

R330 you are a moron, that theft is ancient news!!She is back and better than ever!

On the contrary, the audience loved her.

R330 This bitch hoebag has 20+ hate posts on this thread . Can you say, hater with no life!!! keep winning Winona ,keep this bitch pressed!

R331, R332, R333, R334, R335 is the same sniveling cunt who keeps spewing his/her love for the slutty, druggie mentally ill hot mess that is Winona Ryder. Can you say, brain dead fangurl with no life!!! The poor thing, thinks "Winona (he/she has the delusion that they're on a first name basis)" is "winning" when she's just barely hanging on. Boy, any criticism of Ryder sure does trigger this bitch!

Kylie Jenner has a print of her Winona in her living room...

Ryder is lovely, and a very good actress. Who WOULDN'T like her??

And I liked her bitter, sleazy turn in [italic]Black Swan. I hadn't seen her for a while, before that.

R336 your brain is what is barely hanging on!

This Monday: Janeane Garofalo will join Ben Stiller, Ethan Hawke, and Winona Ryder on The Tonight Show for the 25th Anniversary of "Reality Bites".

I don't think that Ryder is a great actress, yet she's far more interesting to watch than her contemporary GOOP. And I love her late career resurgence. She was the best thing in Black Swan, she was better in Star Trek than the role merited, and she's great as the stressed/crazy mom in Stranger Things.

R331, 2019 will be Winona's year ? Dude, she doesn't have any projects, the only thing she has is season 3 of ST and even that is promoted with the focus on kids characters and not on her. R340, it was cancelled. Who cares about this movie anyway 25 years after.

R342 and yet here you are bitching about Winona like a pressed little bitch with nothing better to do.

R343 judging by this comment the one who is really pressed here is you.

R344 go wash your pussy , it stinks!

R345, Winona, honey, is that you? Forget to take your pills today? Or took too much?

Isn't it funny - Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder were the IT Hollywood couple and huge stars of their generation. Now look at them - Ryder is a mental case with pill drugs problems and Depp is a druggie and boozer. Depp's career has tanked and Ryder is not doing exactly better. Who could have thought?

I think Barrymore also spread a lot of lies about her...jealousy?

I don't think she was hated. It was just that the shop lifting thing (plus other stuff in the past like quitting Godfather 3 at the last minute) made her seem unreliable. Plus she never did a big mia culpa Barbara Walters type interview explaining why she was stealing. (painkiller addiction is what I've heard.) So people assumed she was just crazy and odd and unemployable.

R349, actually she always acted like her shoplifting wasn't big deal. That's what put off a lot people- it was clear she didn't feel sorry for what she did. I mean who wants to employ a person who has mental problems, drugs problems and weird case of kleptomania? Such person can be unpredictable on set, during press tour and promotion. And there are lots of actresses who don't have such problems.

Oh yes r350. That's right. She prolonged the thing by fighting the case for years. Had she just said I was on to much medication, plead guilty and just done some community service it would have been over in a few months. But it dragged on. She was even mouthy with the judge at the trial as I remember.

R348, Winona's enemy was GOOP, not Barrymore. Considering GOOP's connections - Steven Spielberg as godparent, Weinstein - I'm pretty sure it also played a part why Hollywood ditched Winona.

I always wondered why Drew and Winona were never acquainted with each other-Like ever. Not one photo of them together in the 90s. Both same age, music gals etc.

She looked so fucking bitchy in the pictures from that trial. I just wanted to slap her. And I used to be a fan.

R352 Fun Fact: Spielberg is Drew Barrymore's godfather too.

My sister suffers from severe bouts of depression resulting from childhood sexual abuse and she told me that she compulsively steals when she's very depressed. She feels guilty and donates the stuff the charity anonymously when she's less depressed.

Winona talked about her mental illness when Girl,, Interrupted came out, so I wonder if she steals for the same reason.

R356, of course she steals because she is mental and on drugs, that's hardly a mystery. The point is that she never felt sorry about what she's done. During her trial she had those ridiculous t-shirts "free Winona" as if she was some political prisoner unjustly prosecuted. It was a dumb move and it also revealed to people her true self. She used to have an image of smart, intellectual young actress who was talented in playing the characters who were different. But then it turned out she was actually not smart at all, was unapologetic about her own crimes and was so good playing nervous and strange characters because she just basically was playing herself.

I remember her lawyer Mark Geragos speaking at length about how Winona had helped the family of Polly Klass that kidnapped girl and the judge sort of smacking him down and saying something like so what? She still shoplifted.

There must have been resentment towards her years before the shoplifting. Remember how she was favored to win the Oscar for The Age of Innocence and then lost to a little kid? (Anna Paquin)

I was in the dentist chair when the story came on the news about her arrest. The dentist said: the last guy in here works in a pharmacy and said she is on all sorts of pills. (So much for medical privacy laws I guess.)

theif !!!! don't have her in ur house!!

I think that her time as an A-list star just ended like it does with 95% of females in Hollywood. The men can (sometimes...) last longer, but everyone's time in the sun comes to an end. She was wrong for shoplifting but she certainly is not some sort of evil, vile person because of it. I think that substance abuse coupled with a cry for attention were culprits. If you watch the video, she was basically BEGGING to get caught. A talented thief she is not - and she wasn't attempting to be either. If bad publicity is better than no publicity - she was following that theory to fruition. Many Gen Xers love her; I find her very nostalgic as well. She remains a fascinating, beautiful actress (considered one of the most beautiful in her day).

I love her and always will. As a kid who grew up with Beetlejuice and Heathers and Reality Bites, she is an icon. She is quirky. Love her eyes. I worry about her mental health from time to time. I can't fathom why one would hate her.

Totally agree R362.

I miss the days when she was the "it" girl, interesting, cool. Now we have JLaw...

R359, idk about resentment, maybe there was, but it's clear that despite her IT Girl status Hollywood wasn't falling over itself to give her an Oscar. She wasn't Academy's darling. And her career was already declining in the second half of 90s, even before shoplifting. Then her shoplifting made her practically unemployable for any good projects. Yes, Generation X liked her and she is still good for them for nostalgia sake, but that's it. In terms of acting chops she is not great, but she was helped by her looks when she was young. Now, when her looks fade, she doesn't have enough acting talent to offer.

The Academy is interesting. Sometimes they reward actual talent and other times it seems more like a popularity contest. Whatever the case, while I do love Winona - she was never really Oscar-caliber IMO.

That said....about 75% of the actors who do get awarded are not Oscar-caliber either.

Winona was never the actual talent.

R357 I don't think those "Free Winona" shirts were hers, IIRC a novelty tee company released them as a joke.

R358 I remember how Klass' father publicly defended her.

she got bad mojo

R370 I think that was the prosecutor, not the judge.

Cause she would not get big fat fake tittys like Christina Hendricks...

R369,she posed in that dumb t-shirt for photos and magazine!

Omg she has ruined so many decent films.....her face/voice denote zzzzzzz