Pips Bunce - how did we miss this?

Hideous in the particularly English way in both incarnations.

If someone came out as non-binary at my work I would defs support zer unless ze insisted that I call myself cis.

So on the days Pips wears female clothes does he use female facilities? Is that how it works? And everyone has to refer to him as "she" on those days?

Does he ever have days where as the female version of himself he "dresses down" and thus it might make it difficult for observers to determine his gender for the day? Or is that unlikely as it is nothing less than fishnets and heels on the female days?

You can tell right away that the person on the left in pink is a man dressed up as a woman.

What dismal parties those must be.

R4. Perceiving reality is now a thought crime.

Why does he look fatter as a woman? Is it the humongous melons he shoves down his shirt?

R1 I know, right? So much unattractiveness so little time

R6 The Thought Police haven't gotten us yet!

he told his wife AFTER the wedding. i would've killed him.

Pippa Pig.

Pips is a great big bunce of gyps!

[quote]I have got more high heels than my daughter and wife put together.

He can say "It's just a preference" all he wants in his public narrative, but this little slip reveals there's a whole lot of something else going on.

[quote]he told his wife AFTER the wedding. i would've killed him.

That's almost hilariously sitcom. As their driving away from the wedding reception and all their friends are waving them off. "Darling, you look so beautiful in that dress. Would you mind if I wear it to dinner tomorrow evening?"

^^they're driving away

"I was fortunate that I’m quite senior, I’m a director and head of global markets core engineering integration components. I’m very established."

Pretty much says it all.

R4 I think for him that is the point and what excites him. To know he can enter female bathrooms and changing rooms and that the ladies must address him as "she" and "her" despite being visibly male has got to be just heaven for someone with his proclivities. A pervy dream come true!

No woman in her right mind would show up to work in that ridiculous getup. He looks like a born again street hooker.

Everyone at work is laughing at him behind his back, and some even in front. He’s the laughing stock of that company, and I can assure you that cellphones are whipped out and discreetly placedbon video record as soon as he walks in wearing his pearls.

People can and will tolerate this, but they will skewer you relentlessly and only a few will really accept you, after some soul searching.

I’m sure his female counterparts must LOVE how he got hired at a man’s salary, yet gets to claim to be a fucking chick.

asshole.

Pippa/Phillip Bunce is very oppressed so don't be big meanies.

Luckily for him/her the LGBT orgs take him/her very seriously. So seriously he/she was invited to get involved with the Girl Guides association and changing their policy so that male bodied teenagers can now join but the girls aren't allowed to object to sharing tents and showers with them and the parents do not have a right to be informed if their child is in mixed sexed accommodation.

Oh honey

You cannot pull off blonde

Pippa is serving up Kirstjen Nielsen look-a-likeness at R20.

My question is: what’s the purpose of taking this to work? If he wants to dress like this outside of work, honestly, no bfd. Just because he looks silly doesn’t mean he should deny himself the pleasure of dressing however he wants, but why at the office? It’s not the set of that Tom Hanks show from many years ago, it’s not Hollywood.

I worked at this institution and I will tell you right now that everyone looked impeccable. That’s not a requirement for me, as a woman, to join a firm, but for sure they would have raised eyebrows if I decided to dress as a clown to the office. And yes, he looks clownish because he does not look like a woman. He doesn’t need to look like a woman, but this guy is working out his own personal hard-on in the office, and I find that to be strange.

If I showed up in dom attire, which I adore and feel wonderful in, I would have been fired on the spot, no question.

R22 Because it's a power trip for this guy to be able as you say work out "his own personal hard-on in the office" while everyone else is forced to watch and participate.

I wonder when Furries and Adult Babies will reach the same level of acceptance in the work world.

OP, I think we "missed" this story because the media is embarrassed by it and thus does not promote this guy as a trans figurehead. They know this doesn't make the trans look good.

Plummy upper class twit.

This guy has lowered the bar. I’d love to see the heads spinning in the HR department, when Claudia shows up in a low cut blouse, a mini skirt, and sheer undergarments. Why should she look like she’s going to work, instead of the pub, when this asshole gets to wear those fishnets?

Why does he have twice the chins when dressed as a woman?

Because R28 women know to look coquettishly downwards at all times whereas men have strong, proud chins that jut out.

Blame large corporations for this shit. It started with everything being designated a special month "Black History Month" "Gay Pride Month" and moved to shit like this. We go to work to WORK. What you do in your private life should stay in your private life.

I don’t care if Pips wants to wear tits to the office but that outfit is not in anyway acceptable for work, unless her corner office is an actual corner.

Good Christ! What the fuck is this world turning in to?

Because everyone knows being female is just about dresses and long hair. Sheesh.

Our Pips has taken the 21st spot in the Financial Times 2017 list of Top 50 Female Champions of Women.

God she's gorgeous. Well done you Swiss Miss!

He's nearly as beautiful as my sister, the real Pippa!

What I don't understand is why Pippa doesn't dress and use makeup and a wig like the cis women in her office. She looks like she's trying to look like one of the York princesses on "The Windsors"--none of the other women we see in her office on the videos for her company look or dress anything like her.

Is this a joke? Seriously. I can't tell.

"Perceiving reality is now a thought crime. "

Did you read 1984 all by yourself?

I'm guessing that's why you didn't understand it.

Or you know, did you hear the reference somewhere else and thought it sounded cool and made you seem smart?

I bet all the women under her position are watching her fashion choices at the office like a hawk. I would hope her office apparel is as staid as theirs.

The year's at the spring,

And day's at the morn;

Morning's at seven;

The hill-side's dew-pearl'd;

The lark's on the wing;

The snail's on the thorn;

God's in His heaven—

All's right with the world!

So brave.

Festive:

Bar hopping:

Ludicrous.

[quote]What I don't understand is why Pippa doesn't dress and use makeup and a wig like the cis women in her office. She looks like she's trying to look like one of the York princesses on "The Windsors"--none of the other women we see in her office on the videos for her company look or dress anything like her.

A) There is no such thing as “cis women”. B) There are no “other women” in this office like Bunce. He’s a man, full stop.

r46, I see little difference between your dogmatism and the dogmatism of SJWs.

I block you both. I have no interest in hearing from fanatics from either camp.

Lol at “dogmatism” being applied to stating biological facts.

Keep sucking up to straights like Bunce like a good little collaborator r47 while they continue to make a mockery of gay rights

Dull straight man with no taste, give him a fucking award....oh of course they did, a womans award, what a fucking joke

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

On Cloud 9:

R47

It’s “dogmatic” to call a part-time crossdresser a man? lol

Pipsh Bunsh

Girls’ night Out:

Living their Truths:

How much money does this dude make? He has a very well paid position, in my estimation.

I don’t understand why he doesn’t get himself a stylist. He looks like he buys his clothes at Forever 21 (Forever Size 21, in his case).

R47, block my ass too. This man runs around prancing in his place of business, like some 15 year old twit. He’s NOT a woman, and he managed to edge out a real woman, you know, an ACTUAL woman, from some award that she deserved, all because people like you, want to tell us he’s a woman. Well, he is not. He is a man with a sexual fetish, and every time someone laughs at him or treats him respect, his dick gets hard. That’s what this is. It’s not even gender dysmorphia. It’s a fethish, focusing and revolving around HIS dick, not yours.

He’s nothing but an old pervert, and doesn’t represent anything regarding transgenderism, or gay rights.

Even in that photo where he was awarded some bullshit or another, his jewelry is tacky shit you see on teenagers in the Midwest.

He should have some fucking dignity, and buy some well tailored clothing, suited for a cross dresser in his age group and financial/professional demographic.

What a nut job.

I can feel the static from the nylon in those awful wigs at R55!

First the Brexit vote, now this.

A once-great empire upon which the sun never set is truly circling the drain.

Does his penis get hard when he dresses like a woman?

Does it get hard when he enters a women’s restroom?

Does he masturbate in public bathroom stalls?

What kind of porn does he consume & how often?

I love the way we're expected to play along with this crap.

Gurls just wanna have FUN:

Smart casual:

I didn’t read the article but does he have a regular schedule for who he coming to work as each day? Is he a woman Mondays, Wednesday’s and Fridays or something? I would think it would be confusing to schedule meetings and whatnot when you didn’t know who was going to turn up.

I wonder when Furries and Adult Babies will reach the same level of acceptance in the work world.

r24, you laugh now but there is a movement in England to add a 'K' for kink to the never-ending LGBTIQPP2JNGSFJHGJL mess.

You're joking surely (R35)?

Every one of those guys at r55 is wearing hideous short clothing. You don’t see middle aged women running round dressed like this unless they’re prostitutes.

And the stripper heels, r66. I don't think any sane woman would wear them to work.

As though any real woman working in a high-powered job in finance could get away with wearing that kind of look to work! this really is a man's idea of what being a woman is - an over-sexualised simpering thing. Fine if he wants to do that in private but 1) it's only his privilege that enables him to dress like that to work and 2) it does NOT make him a woman, even if he dressed like that all of the time.

Celebrated:

Yin and Yang:

His bent knee poses are way over the top.

That said, I'd screw him senseless as a man, simply because he resembles someone in my office who I've somehow developed a crush on despite him not resembling anything I was previously attracted to before.

[quote]it does NOT make him a woman, even if he dressed like that all of the time.

Not even the little blossom in his hair?

Not even that (R72)!

What a cunt.

He looks creepy and tacky. If the outfit were elegant and restrained, e.g. Christine Lagarde type finance chic, ok. But he is clearly dresses in the way that sexually turns him on, he has some fetish for feminine frippery and it is fucking anti-social of him to parade that in front of his colleagues. Plus it speaks volumes about his idea of the 'ideal' woman - some big titted blonde frau in hooker hose and a weird little girl barette. Puke.

He's just a transvestite. We're one step from politely clapping as we watch him publicly jerk off.

(R75) I'd be shocked if I'd been one of his female colleagues for years and then suddenly found out exactly what he thinks 'women' are. I wonder how he treats women in the office?

True (R76) And anyone found to be not clapping is hounded out of their job for being a terf!

The lovely Pips wasn't the only man to receive a top 100 female CEO award, there was another lower profile crossdresser on there too.

That's two women in finance who lost out to men with a fetish.

True of all of them r76

R55 What disasters they all are.

What does this have to do with true transgender and did hetero autogyl@&$ have anything to do with Stonewall?

This is over the top hysterical. I mean, look at these men. They’re all ugly as fuck, and then throwing a dress on with tacky wigs and heels, and going to a place of business, is absolute lunacy.

I bet all the people in his office gossip and laugh heartily enough to piss their knickers, when he’s not around.

This is something like out of a movie, where the main character loses a bet and has to humiliate himself by dressing like a horny, post menopausal spinster.

I wouldn’t be able to work with him. I know that eventually, I’d crack and wouldn’t be able to contain my laughter. Surely plenty of his coworkers have experienced this.

r61, are those all men with same fetish hanging out together? or is the one in black a woman? I can see how an unattractive woman would not want to hang out with this bunch.

it's true they dress like 15 year olds. I can't help but think back to kids in the hall, those guys always looked so believable as women.

I blame third wave feminism

Third wave feminism has been distorted/colonised by men's (sexual) rights activism. Women's campaigning has unwittingly been turned on themselves. Just like the economically disadvantaged Americans who are seduced by the culture wars and fake 'anti-elite' ideology into voting against their own economic interests. The dominant culture and socials structures effortlessly reproduces themselves, even with supposed radical or subversive movements.

* I mean 'reproduce themselves' - no 's'

[quote]I bet all the people in his office gossip and laugh heartily enough to piss their knickers, when he’s not around.

The men are laughing. The women are grinding their teeth.

R85 OH GODS YES, trannys do totally look like the 'women' in 'Kids in the Hall'/

Very astute R87

No r90. I meant the kids in the hall did it better. They wore things grown women would actually wear.

Does anyone here know one of his coworkers, or a friend of a coworker? I’d love for one of them to find this thread, and tell us what working with this boob is like.

Does he switch to a high pitched voice, when wearing his skirts and heels? Does he complain about feeling bloated, or that his feet are killing him? Does he offer up where he got his latest lingerie on sale, to the other gals in the office? Does he complain about being a mom with long hours behind the desk? I mean, what does this guy do in order to keep up with the guys talking about the soccer match, and the women talking about Megan Markle?

There is a social order of the sexes in the work place, whether we like it or not. Vacillating from one sex to the other and expecting everyone around you to play along is the ultimate height of narcissism. This guy must suck all the air out of the room as soon as he appears, regardless of what he’s wearing.

We can see through this shyster. But Britain's State Propaganda Empire love freaks like this

I wonder if his wife ever accompanies him to the events where he shows up dressed as a woman. He talks about the kids being accepting in that interview, but he doesn't he say much about his wife.

You forgot the most important question R93. Does he cradle his mug?

Thanks for making me LOL, r96!

Am I supposed to feel sorry for him, because I kind of do. BEcause he is mental. She.

I have never knowingly met anyone trans before, and I am so afraid of fucking it up by saying "it" or "are you a woman?" due to cognitive dissonance.

I'm so glad I'm dead.

How is the typical "T" brigade reacting to all this?

you know, Caitlyn Jenner, the Kate Borsteins of the world, the Triglly pUffs,

I think this is their just deserts coming back at them!

R98 You need to go dimly-lit bars after midnight or visit prostitutes if you want to meet trans humans. That's where most of them hang out.

Most of those people earn their income by sucking men's cocks or allowing men to penetrate their anus.

Ugly as fuck in or out of an ugly dress

Can you imagine if a white person went to work in blackface? Or dressed up in Native American regalia?

How is this any different?

Like me?r103

Pips Bunce is a decent enough drag name.

"Keep sucking up to straights like Bunce like a good little collaborator [R47] while they continue to make a mockery of gay rights "

As if you give a shit about gay rights. You post this same argument over and over and yet you're a slavish lackey to "traditional sex roles" and suck up to a conservative agenda that most certainly doesn't care about gay rights.

Meanwhile, r103 is serving up one false equivalency after another.

I see it's time for me to clean house, so to speak.

"First the Brexit vote, now this. A once-great empire upon which the sun never set is truly circling the drain. "

Another false equivalency from a dead queen.

Oh and this is quite telling:

"Blame large corporations for this shit. It started with everything being designated a special month "Black History Month" "Gay Pride Month" and moved to shit like this. We go to work to WORK. What you do in your private life should stay in your private life. " Because corporations started the civil rights movement? And they also started the gay pride movement? Is that what you're trying to sell us.

And you're complaining about both which makes you sound like another typical bigoted straight white men. You're losing your privilege--you know, that thing that gives you special and that you've never earned.

It's always the lazy assholes who do the work who think they deserve it all.

"I love the way we're expected to play along with this crap. "

Bet you whine like a little loser when people don't play along with your crap. Oh, wait, you're doing it right now. I win the bet.

" I would think it would be confusing to schedule meetings and whatnot when you didn’t know who was going to turn up. "

Yeah, you seem like you would be confused if someone dressed differently everyday. I mean who would show up? Brown Oxfords or Oxblood Loafers! How could you cope with such a thing?

"It's always the lazy assholes who DON'T do the work who think they deserve it all. " is what I meant to say.

Anyway, I guess you're all having your little hate fest and your shriveled little weenies are quite excited right about now. I guess you're thinking about relaxing with some Cialis and your fleshlight. Have fun, wee ones.

Again, where are the T activists on this? Wonder what they're thinking.

They made their non-binary beds, now they have to lie in them. :)

I thought you were “blocking” us r47/r106.

Me, I don’t have a dick, shriveled or otherwise. I’m just a lesbian sick and tired of men like you, alternately whining and bullying the rest of us out of our rights. Now take YOUR shriveled dick, shove it back into your shit-stained XXL panties, and

If you want to dress like this at home or with likeminded friends knock your socks off - but I don't understand why you want to appear in public looking, at best, like an unattractive woman who doesn't have a clue as to how to dress to make the most of her looks.

When I was in my 20's I had long 80's rocker hair. I was also skinny and very young looking - so people who didn't look too closely, and many didn't - often addressed me as Miss. I do have a deep voice, so my reply "actually it's Mister" would really take them by surprise and I got lots of flustered apologies. I always told them that I didn't bother me that they mistook me for a chick, but that they must have assumed I was a really ugly chick.

R110, I agree that cross dressing is for one’s own personal time. I imagine men who do this actually really do have a fun time getting ready with their makeup, jewelry, dresses, etc. And personally, if I fell for a man who was into this, I’d totally accept that part of him too. There’s nothing wrong with cross dressing.

I guess my personal pet peeve about this is, that I once worked for this company, here in the US. When my head hunter called me about the position, one of the first things she said was that they were very particular about appearances. Regardless of age, gender, or sexual orientation, everyone there looked flawless. Very conservative dress code, with very well polished employees who were all very bright, and talented. I’m almost positive that had I shown up to work, wearing men’s clothing, and demanding to be called “Sir”, I would have been fired.

Times do change, however, this is pretty unprofessional behavior, because it actually looks like a mockery of women. It’s also pretty disruptive, because it requires many accommodations.

Men get away with SO, SO MUCH.

Hi (R111) I meant to press 'ww' but may have accidentally given you an 'ff'. So I hope the right notification came through and if it didn't then please just substitute it in your mind.

Brexit vill solve zis problem

As a male is "Phillip" gay or just English? Hard to tell from the photo.

Straight white male co-opting women & gay rights.

It truly is a man’s world.

Who knew we could have just identified out of our oppression. Wow. All our problems would be solved. No more gay bashes. No more female infanticide. No more rape...

He’s a straight married guy with kids r114.

That's a man, dude.

Stef-on-knee could kick his ass.

Apparently his cross dressing at work 2 days a week for the past 4 years makes him a successful woman in business. He is an asshole for not only accepting it but his misogynistic tweets about it.

r119, he probably had to put his name forward for consideration. The sense of entitlement is staggering.

He makes a fuck ugly man or woman.

The simpering smile when dressed as a man is almost as bad as the duper’s delight smirk when dressed as an aging dockside delight.

Credit Suisse is da bomb, it's considered the most prestigious investment bank to work at. People kill to get jobs there. And they allowed xir to come out powerfully.

^^^And their policy of paying women less is just great!

I assume Pips has taken a voluntary paycut as well for the full female experience. Or just 2/5 of the difference in pay, as he only inflicts this crap on his colleagues 2 days of the week.

"If you want to dress like this at home or with likeminded friends knock your socks off - but I don't understand why you want to appear in public looking, at best, like an unattractive woman who doesn't have a clue as to how to dress to make the most of her looks. "

So you're for the burka? Against the burka? You seem to be very invested in shaming women for not being attractive, so … burka, right?

And how do you disguise your Halloween mask face? Another Halloween mask? Very meta if you do. No wait, let me guess, you're so ravishingly beautiful you want to have plastic surgery to make yourself ugly. Because you're that troll on the other thread. Or you're just a like minded troll.

It must have been so lonely for you before you found like minded incels on the internet.

God bless.

"I assume Pips has taken a voluntary paycut as well for the full female experience. Or just 2/5 of the difference in pay, as he only inflicts this crap on his colleagues 2 days of the week."

Because of the great Trans conspiracy where they all make billions of dollars doing this? Right? They're never the target of hatred or violence or discrimination and god forbid they should take away the gold medal in the Oppression Olympics away from you. So how many endorsement deals have you gotten by being such a martyred Oppression Olympian? Wheaties box cover? Or are you just another man pretending you give a shit about feminism when you're just enraged that THE PENIS IS NOT BEING RESPECTED? Because what else do you have going for you.

You know, even a loser like Tonya Harding got a movie eventually. You seem like a bigger loser. Your movie might win two Oscars.

But the penis is being respected (R127), that's the point. And it's the point that the poster you're responding to was making.

Working Gurls Who Lunch:

I've just had a thought, if he's head of global marketing does that mean that the women working under him feel obliged to treat him like 'one of the girls' and perform a lot of emotional and social labour so he feels that he's having the correct 'girly' experience? I mean it's not like he has any less power when he's wearing a bad wig - he has so much power and privilege that he can simper around the office and play at not presenting himself as powerful, which is the ultimate power really.

R127 seems awfully triggered and confused. Credit Suisse have been shown to actively pay women lesser salaries than male counterparts. If one of their employees is accepting awards as a female, does the salary now reflect this seems a perfectly logical question.

Also, why is this female persona allowed to wear frankly unprofessional attire, that would have other females hauled in for a chat about their presentation?

Quite where oppression Olympics and Tonya Harding come into this are a little bewildering.

R130, spot on. That’s what these boobs do. Tedious as fuck, and never ending pity parties.

It reminds me of Marie Antionette who lived a life of enormous luxury, playing at being a milkmaid on a luxurious farm that she had built for the purpose - she didn't want to actually be a milk-maid of course. Here's a description of how this helped to turn people against her as she play-acted their oppression from a position of huge privilege:

'There were a couple of problems with her play-acting, though. It got to the point where she spent so much time there, dressed as a milkmaid and in the company of her friends, that rumors started to circulate among the already discontent masses and among the members of her own court. Clearly, there was something going on here that shouldn’t be. When the masses are starving, play-acting their idealized life is probably not the wisest thing to do.'

As long as society continues to pander to the "trans" nonsense, it will continue to flourish.

I remember meeting a bloke like Pips (similar age, clearly a man, definitely straight) on a train once coming back from a night out. One of my (then) friends fawned all over him because she loved the idea of trans-positivity, and he started mansplaining Chinese society to my Chinese friend. I ignored him and fell asleep, which he didn't seem to be able to bear as he reached over the aisle, grabbed my handbag, and started poking me with it to wake me up. How dare a young woman not give him to attention he craved!

[quote]So how many endorsement deals have you gotten by being such a martyred Oppression Olympian? Wheaties box cover?

Been there, done that.

Dogma 'tenets concerning faith, morals, values' yeah there's no dogma in calling this bloke a bloke. He's a woman the same way a sex doll is a woman all plastic, artifice, a fake kinky idea of a woman made by men.

R127 you seem very ignorant of the reality of sex disparity in Credit Suisse pay. Please, if you have anything to disprove the already widely known problem of Credit Suisse paying actual women far less than their male counterparts then share this astounding evidence with the world.

You are of course completely ignoring the point of the comment in your rush to tell us why women are wrong and this man is right - and you DO know he doesn’t call himself a transwoman, yes? The 5 days a week spent in male attire calling himself Philip is a dead giveaway.

He LITERALLY gets paid more than women in the same organization because he is a man.

Seeing him done up like a dog’s dinner and holding that LGBT award really pisses me off. Some bloody straight bloke thinking he represents us because he wears a dress. Wanker.

The photo of him done up like a dog’s dinner and holding the LGBT award makes my blood boil. Some straight bloke in a dress in no way represents me and never will.

That women have to indulge this travesty is appalling. I wonder how accepting the company would be if a woman came in wearing a false moustache and a tacky pimped out suit. The line about having more shoes than his wife and daughter is indeed the giveaway. He’s not gender fluid. This is a fetish and he’s just a wanker.

This guy is having his cake and eating it, in other words he's a typical male.

Ah, England, where any little boy can grow up to be the queen.

"He looks creepy and tacky. If the outfit were elegant and restrained, e.g. Christine Lagarde type finance chic, ok."

Seriously? "Yes, they oppress women, but it's such an *elegant* and *restrained* oppression." Bitch, I don't care if Cecil Beaton comes back from the dead and writes their dress code guidebook; I only care about the women who should have been on that list BUT ARE NOT.

How nice and comforting it is to spot bullshit a mile away. Makes it easier to avoid the smell.

This is a fucking travesty. His company actually allows him to get away with this stunt....unbelievable.

Is it a minor royal?

Yes R146. Cuntess of Notahershire. Pip to it’s pals at polo Bunty and Tarquin.

A billboard in Liverpool with nothing but the dictionary definition of "woman" has been pulled, thanks to the repulsive Dr. Adrian Harrop, serial Twitter harasser of women.

Harrop is truly one of the most vile men in the UK today. This is guy who stalked and harassed a black FGM survivor.

Pretty soon we won't be able to call it FGM anymore, r149.

Harrop is truly nauseating. How lucky for him that this transbollocks gives him an outlet for his deep deep misogyny. I can't believe he's an actual doctor with access to women and children in his 'professional' life.

where did he stalk/harrass a victim of FGM?

that reddit article at R150 is just chilling.

On twitter r152, where else? It happened earlier this year or late last year, can’t recall. The woman is named Jana.

Harrop is a real piece of work. It’s disturbing to me that he is a medical doctor. His attitude towards women is obvious.

I have met Bunce at a diversity event. He is as laughable as he seems, and just a plain old transvestite.

This... person was on the "female" business list, too. And yes, it actually says this on his website. I mean, even when they admit to the privilege of being able to put "woman" on and take it off at their convenience, like a costume, they keep rewarding them!

I really really thought that was satire at first (R155) - and unsubtle satire at that. But no, he's just an arrogant and entitled macho sexist cunt like the rest of them. I hope the stuff about Philip Bunce (for god's sake let's start calling the man by his real name) in the newspapers might help to open more people's eyes. But these men are pretty much untouchable at the moment, and they know it.

[quote]I really really thought that was satire at first ([R155]) - and unsubtle satire at that. But no, he's just an arrogant and entitled macho sexist cunt like the rest of them. I hope the stuff about Philip Bunce (for god's sake let's start calling the man by his real name) in the newspapers might help to open more people's eyes. But these men are pretty much untouchable at the moment, and they know it.

r156, attaching themselves to the gay rights movement was a brilliant strategy. Now no one, not even gay people, can question (much less criticise) their agenda without being shouted down as anti LGBT+

Make no mistake, this will serve as a blueprint for all 'other' groups, hence the never ending additions to the acronym. As I've stated upthread, there is already a push to add 'K' for kink. It may have seemed unthinkable just a few years ago but can the push to add 'P' for you-know-what be too far behind?

Am I being an alarmist? How many of us could have predicted a world where puberty blockers, carcinogenic hormones and the removal of healthy body parts of children would become accepted? How many of us would have forseen a world where posting the dictionary definition of woman would be considered hate speech?

[quote]where puberty blockers, carcinogenic hormones and the removal of healthy body parts of children would become accepted?

... body parts of children who happen to like 'girly' things as boys, or butch things as girls. Rather than having gender bending kids and loving them for it, cool/progressive parents are trained to be self-congratulatory for supporting their kid's 'transition ing'.

It won't last. Future generations will look back at the insanity. It reminds me of the way our grandparents generation forced lefty kids to use their right hand.

This is some sad shit.

Remember people, once upon a time lobotomy was considered an acceptable treatment for mental illness. How is this different?

So if Pips has an appendix attack and has to be rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery, will he be put in a room with a woman only if he's wearing a wig with a flower in it?

How does that work when you get to change whenever you want, and win awards on your 'girl' days?

Harrop is such a loon that he has created an Islamic persona on Twitter and uses it to continue his threatening behaviour towards women. I believe he is being monitored by a superior because multiple complaints have been about his intimidating tweets but apparently this hasn’t stopped him. He is a trainee GP, apparently. The bastard shouldn’t be allowed near women.

The delightful Nicci Take:

Dr Aaron is nuts, I have no idea how the hell he gets away with the insane shit he posts on the twitter.

Love the posters on this thread, gives me hope, cause the world has to hit #peaktrans soon, children are being operated on and tested with off label awful drugs.

Crazy times indeed

The sickest part of all this is that both Phillip Bunce and Nicci Take are sexually harassing their female coworkers every day by forcing them to enact their fetish with them (being forced to call them female names, use (in)correct pronouns, take a "girls' lunch" together, offer endless compliments on their "femininity"). This is exactly why gay rights = trans rights is a false equivalency. Gay men and lesbians do not require the cooperation of anyone, regardless of what a few loony, right-wing cake bakers say. Gay men do not bend each other over on desks at the office. Lesbians do not corner their coworkers and ask, "Are my shoes sensible enough, Betty? No, are they? ARE THEY?"

The autogynephilia of straight men is wholly performative and REQUIRES the cooperation of others, preferably women.

Too right (R165).

R157 the 'P' is already implicated (not this guy). The girl guide movement in the UK has been infiltrated by TRA/MRAs. One of their objectives is to remove safeguarding protocol, and the girl guide has caved into allowing 'transgirls' ie boys to share tents and showers with girls without the parent's knowledge or consent, and to allow transwomen to lead groups on residential trips and camps, again without parental knowledge or consent. Girl guides UK caters for girls age 8 upwards. Very dodgy behaviour, but we have to remember that the establishment in the UK routinely enables and covers up child abuse, especially that of underage girls.

The straights are thinking: "Listen to these queers clucking about this. Gays wanna get fucked like women but bitch about a guy who dresses like one."

She is to Chelsea Manning what Serena was to Samantha.

When my heterosexual relatives lecture me on transgender rights, I know for sure I am living in an alternate universe.

Why why why do they always look like teenage girls or hookers? Not even trying for an ounce of authenticity. It might as well be drag.

At least drag doesn't purport to ask for social accommodation.

Womenface. Thats what this is. Minstrelry.

Now that straight men are being harassed, people (well, other straight men) are actually starting to care. Before, not so much.

It would probably infuriate him if dresses became the fashion for men, too and if we blurred the distinction in clothing enough so that a dress doesn't at all signal woman, which is where I thought and hoped we were heading. I had a male coworker who wore nail polish, makeup, and the occasional dress to work but it was really stylish and he had great taste. He looked like a former or lingering club kid, grown up. He didn't use a female name or anything. Just occasionally wore dresses and usually wore makeup. This is different; this is Norman Batesy.

Another privileged white heterosexual male openly indulging himself in his fetishes...that’s all this shit is. And he’s bullying others to force them into indulging his fetishes too.

In this case, the emperor does have clothes - a smart suit with some faux pearls.

Next up:

"You look like a size 12..."

And walking the night in their skin!

Twitter's new policy: "Dehumanization: Language that treats others as less than human... Examples can include... reducing groups to their genitalia."

Women are oppressed because of their genitalia. It is the ONLY reason they are oppressed. Gay men and lesbians are oppressed for having sex with others who have the same genitalia as they do. It is the ONLY reason they are oppressed. We cannot possibly talk about women's and gay liberation WITHOUT doing what they describe as "reducing groups to their genitalia." This is an attack on women and gay men, because the truth hurts straight men's fee-fees.

Wow r176. Wtf

We are XX chromosomes

Sisterhood is female

Women are targeted for rape because of their genitalia. They are paid less. The very origin of the word ‘misogyny’ is hatred of female genitalia. Women cannot identify out of their oppression as victims of violence, sexual abuse and second class citizenship. If you can stop being oppressed by changing clothes you were never oppressed in the first place. Biology is reality and biology is not a matter of choice.

Women don’t have penises.

Well, off to the gulag for me.

From what I hear lately the gulags are lovely.

Wear whatever the hell you want. Still doesn't make you a woman.

Brava r181.

R148 Is there a thread on that? I can’t believe we live in a world where repeating biological facts is now considered hate speech...

r184, I'm not going to start another thread because it's a miracle that this one is still up. Here, watch the vile Harrop get owned on Sky News:

Oh My!

Forgive my reducing this to genitalia but that Mrs Minchell has some iron balls.

She did not blink. Go her!

Can it be the tide is turning, at long last?

R185 That was brilliant to watch, thanks!

Anyone know if the t-shirt she is wearing with the definition of woman on it is available to purchase?

Thanks R187 I hadn’t known of Brendan O'Neill before I watched that video.

This was attached to the previous video via YouTube. When he reached to the part about Lauren/Larry and people having to indulge him, I suddenly had a flash of that Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life“ with the kid (Bill Mumy) forcing his whole town to indulge him or face extreme peril.

This is excerpted from the Wikipedia synopsis of said episode.

🔥Everybody is under his rule, even his parents. The people live in fear of him, constantly telling him how everything he does is "good," since he banishes anyone thinking unhappy thoughts into the otherworldly "cornfield" from which there is no return🔥

I’m finding the parallels to close for comfort.

Amazing - bloody love her for that! Also what Brendan said will carry some weight because he is a man and also has no skin in the game so to speak.

Oh that Harrop rat was so owned!

She basically told him at the end that he had played right into her hands. Watching his face as he realised that was a delight.

I love how when the host tries to shame Kellie-Jay by asking her whether she's been banned from Twitter, Kellie-Jay loudly replies, "Yep. Yep." She's got absolutely no more fucks to give!

He’s an abhorrent little cunt. The arrogance is astounding. She completely owned him, good for her.

"The arrogance is astounding."

He actually accused her of "appropriating" the word "woman." Um...

[quote]Also what Brendan said will carry some weight because he is a man and also has no skin in the game so to speak.

Brendan O'Neill's entire modus operandi is to be a complete contrarian. Check out his bullshit on marriage equality. I doubt anyone in the UK takes him seriously.

He may have a point on this issue, but O'Neill is still a total fuckwit.

Bizarrely the interviewer asks him whether there's anything wrong with the definition before the woman speaks, and he says nope, nothing. And yet it was wrong to put it on a billboard? He knows not to challenge the lexicographers to changes the meaning, although perhaps that's underway already. I'll have to check. But if not, if the dictionary does define "woman" as adult human female, then I would redo all the posters as a snapshot of the dictionary entry and put the onus on the deeper pockets over at whoever publishes the dictionaries.

Have your say now!

Because, this thread will be closed soon.

“Pips” is an offensive bullying asshole. I will guarantee actual real women at Credit Suisse would be sacked for turning up looking like a teenage prostitute.

Many of the pundits who speak out on this issue may be 'problematic' on other issues, but at least they are bloody well speaking out on it. This issue is far too important to be divided by party lines, I give props to anyone who speaks out on this issue because, ultimately, I think this is child abuse.

Let kids play and express themselves in dress and mannerisms and makeup and whatever. But no to puberty blockers, no to carcinogenic hormones, no to surgery to remove healthy sex organs. It seems insane that such things even need to be said.

R200 Hear Hear

Sadly, true, R78...

Why do so many British men want to be ugly women, with hair hats that only make them look more absurd than if they make an actual attempt to blend in?

This is a twist - dude from head to ankle, then stilettos?

What jumped out at me was him saying --I was telling her--do a lot of these autogyns have mommy issues? It was probably her lingerie that they first got access to, after all...

The female colleague may have felt more empowered by heels as they would make her more sexually attractive and it would be power by association. Not sure the effect is the same for him?

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The tide IS turning, but the TRA won’t be giving up without a fight. The TRA will get nastier from here on in, but aggression is all they have. Trans ideology is incoherent and inconsistent, a mixture of misogyny (including the internalised kind), narcissistic rage, and general self-hatred and dysphoria reframed as empowerment. When the straight world fully wises up to what it is (and that trans is essentially meaningless as an identity), it will be over. Depressing that that is what it will take, but true. We have a little way to go yet for that.

I agree that the modern idea of 'trans' itself is meaningless (R207) - I think the more public this issue becomes the more people will see the nasty underbelly of trans politics, which is necessary for the tide to turn. There are still so many people who are well-diposed to the issue but live in ignorant bliss. The more people who get burned by them or see other people being burned the better, TRASs really are there own worst enemy sometimes.

I do not think the TRA will go away, too much $$$ and power behind them. They are a vehicle to usher in criminalizing speech and promoting pedophilia and to roll back rights gained by women and gays.

Social and other media seems to play a big part in all of this, no? Pips was not doing this 25 years ago, after all.

Calling it out

About time.

"WE MISSED THIS" BECAUSE DATALOUNGE IS ONLY PATHETIC TROLLS WHO COPY THREADS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE BEFORE!

As this thread started in July R213 and the thread you linked started in September.....I’d have to go with this being first.

This was a fun thread.

R215 It is a comic thread.

This creature is a veritable Emily Howard

I haven't read this whole thread, can someone tell me if someone has made a "Pips is just a bunch of gyps" joke?

Pips Bunce? Pips Bounce?

Where is Monty Python when we need them to point out the insanity of modern self-obsessed hysteria.

Here is Pipsy receiving some award from a foul-mouthed, rorting MP—

Pipsh Bunshe

I love how these twats look fatter, uglier, and older just by throwing on a wig and a dress.