Why most of the male celebrity chefs are straight ?

It always seems strange to me to hear how chefs are such badass alpha males, I agree it doesn't seem like such a masculine job

Maybe gay men are too smart to become working chefs. It's one thing to cook for a dinner party to impress your friends it's another thing to be the chef of a restaurant. Working 80-plus hours a week with no overtime and no benefits and no retirement. Working in excruciatingly hot kitchens with no breaks. And honestly, you could make more money by being a waiter with half of the responsibilities and workload.

When you become a celebrity chef your main line of work is not technically as a chef but as a celebrity.

You are paid to be an asshole, treat people badly, and drink yourself silly. Every chef I have know has had an anger management problem. Every chef I have know (male or female) has had a drinking problem. Also, there is very much a military aspect of a commercial kitchen. The chef is the drill sergeant bossing the grunts.

This nasty little man doesn't have much respect for chefs:

[quote]Cooking is not terribly difficult. Nor is it an art. It is at best what Orwell referred to as a ‘half art’, like photography. We have undoubtedly benefited from the increased prestige conferred upon people who can put stuff in a frying pan and stir it quite adeptly, these past 40 years. But latterly it has also bred within the restaurateurs a distance from and even a contempt towards the people they are serving. So that they are now agreed that the feedback they receive from their customers is utterly worthless: they know what they are doing and nobody can tell them otherwise.

{quote]And because cooking is dead easy, lots of people think — probably rightly — that they can do it and have set up restaurants themselves. That’s the other reason so many are going bust — again, a point not made on the Food Programme. It is an utterly saturated market. There are 20,000 more restaurants in the UK today than there were just ten years ago, a rise of 30 per cent in a decade. That is one reason why all the useful shops have gone: they’ve been converted into a place selling Bengali tapas or Belarusian sushi. And it may be that we’ve had all we can take, especially when these outlets are suffused with such self-importance. The Red Hen Syndrome stretches wider than Sarah Huckabee Sanders could imagine.

OR for gays:

[quote]The best possible outcome is that the owner of the Red Hen loses her business and the gay people working for her are forced to find employment in the US military — perhaps in Iraq or Afghanistan, where they will receive a fairly sharp lesson in comparative homophobias.

Pussy, that's it in a nutshell.

Well how many gay men would enjoy cutting off the heads of dead fish everyday. No pun intended.

Have you ever cut up a side of beef into thick steaks? I have, its kind of gross with all the fat and red stuff that looks like blood. And worse for me is dealing with raw whole chicken, slimy, slippery, gross. I do it for the end result, but the process is not something I enjoy.

Adorkable

It's only cooking in the home that is traditionally seen as woman's work. Traditionally men have always been involved in cooking as a business, so it's not seen as something that is seen as unmanly, therefore there's never been any stigma that might discourage straight men from becoming chefs.

R3 true. But becoming a celebrity chef usually involves years I putting an actual work first

Now I am wondering how much chef drudgery Jamie Oliver did before he wrote the Naked Chef. Wikipedia says he was a pastry chef then a sous chef before The Naked Chef.

R11 sous chefs tend to absorb the most abuse in the kitchen. All the problems fall back on them and they get none of the glory. And they carry out most of the work

Thanks for the info. I have not worked in a kitchen.

Pastry chefs are all bottoms.

ROFL r14

R14 well, yeah. You're right

Gay chef here AMA

The public wants masculinity and Alpha vibe in its celebrity chefs

Plus a lot of male chefs intentionally assert their masculinity to undermine any effeminate stereotypes associated with males who cook

Almost all the great chefs in the world are men. While woman do the vast majority of cooking in the home, its not an art or profession to them like it is for men, its more of an every day chore or break from the mundane life of the traditional family. Of coarse there are some very famous woman chefs now but that's really a break from tradition. It was always considered a masculine profession like nursing was considered a female one.

Gay men to some degree seem to avoid classic male hetero jobs. Of course there are gays in every profession but in general I would say becoming a chef is usually not associated with refinement and sophistication like gay men seem to be drawn to.

R20, let’s hope more gay men today are not living such archaic stereotypes

My chef ish ash gay ash a goosh. Flounshing in his caftan ash he preshentsh Beef Wellington to my me and my friendsh. It's morning now. I'll pour shome vodka on my Froot Loopsh and shtart my day.

Teddy Diggs of Il Palio in Chapel Hill. I think I’m in love.

R7 I got out of cooking because I couldn't stand handling raw meat and fish. I'd rather deal with vegetables, or make pasta or cakes.

But no tofu, please.

I think it's homophobia. Most businesses don't want a gay person as their public head/persona. They want conventional types. I've fucked enough closet case chefs to know it's a thing.

As an interesting aside, there is an element of criminality among chefs and cooks. An old MFK Fisher book described it well. A government survey asked restaurant cooks and chefs "What were you doing, job or otherwise, immediately before your restaurant position?" The #1 answer was "Jail."

My sister was a chef and manager of restaurants for many years, and like R2 says, she realized that her life would be easier and she'd make more money if she worked front of house. So she did, until she quit restaurants altogether. You know what happened? She got emphysema from inhaling the fumes of over 1000 grilling assorted cuts of meat each day at a job she had. She went on disability. She is terrific at barbecues though.

Little dictators in their kitchen realm.

Restaurant world attracts hot girls.

There have been rumours about Gordon Ramsay and Jamie Oliver being bisexual for years.

Ramsay was arrested in the early 90s for gross indecency after being discovered nude in a stall in a public toilet at a tube station with two other men. In The UK gross indecency generally refers to engaging in masturbation or oral sex rather than just nudity. Years later when this story was leaked to the press, Ramsay's people downplayed the story claiming that he was very drunk and passed out by the toilet but that there was nothing sexual going on and that the two other men were longtime friends that he had gone out drinking with.

Oliver's pertinacity for giving/receiving golden showers form barely legal twinks is almost an open secret in London now.

Chef is usually married with the wife at home. The hostess and bar tender are usually hot. The chef is usually banging both and them while flirting with the wealthy patrons. etc....

I'd take it you've never been in a restaurant kitchen. Or even at your home. From prepping the ingredients, withstanding the heat and scalding oil, keeping the workstation in order, getting hurled by your boss, racing with the time while ensuring your food is not fucked up. Cooking is a LABORIOUS work.

R30 I worked in a 5star restaurant in a famous ski town. After the shift the chef would carve a bong in an apple or carrot. We got high in the freezer and got the restaurant ready for the next day. 5 star perfect. The chef was banging the hostess in his office. My friend was a hostess and use to service the chef while doing lines of coke in this now James Beard restaurant in Atlanta. Big divorce. She married the chef after to make it all legal. Another friend found her husband banging the waitress on the stainless table. They are divorced now but have four restaurants in Birmingham. I can go on and on.

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Why are most celebrities straight? Lots of gay chef in the real world.

I’ve heard the rumors about Ramsay. Put a bag over his head and I’d do it with him. I like his body type.

Jamie Oliver? Now that is a shock.

R33 Ramsay has a hot body, and I really like his personality on shows like Hotel Hell, but his face looks like a mix between a bull dog and a scrotum.

As for Oliver, there have been some blind items over the years suggesting he swings both ways. Somewhere on DL there is a story about Oliver pretty much openly hitting on a guy at a party he was attending in Toronto, Canada a few years ago.