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David Lynch on tRump: He could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much

I've never seen Lynch talk politics before, and while I suspected he would be on the libertarian side, this is disappointing. Though, I agree that our politicians don't have a clue how to lead the country right now.

[quote]Politically, meanwhile, Lynch is all over the map. He voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary and thinks – he’s not sure – he voted Libertarian in the presidential election. “I am not really a political person, but I really like the freedom to do what you want to do,” says the persecuted Californian smoker.

[quote][bold]He is undecided about Donald Trump. “He could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much. No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.” While Trump may not be doing a good job himself, Lynch thinks, he is opening up a space where other outsiders might. “Our so-called leaders can’t take the country forward, can’t get anything done. Like children, they are. Trump has shown all this.”[/bold]

He wrote an autobiography of sorts, Room To Dream. It sounds like it will be a pretty straightforward, no embellishments, story of his life.

[quote]Offscreen, he can be brutal when it comes to the end of a relationship. In Room To Dream, Isabella Rossellini that Lynch laughed while shooting her rape scene with Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet, and “I still don’t know why.” Rossellini went on to have an affair with the director, a relationship that ended his marriage to Mary Fisk. “My heart was truly broken, and I was walking around like a lost person with blood dripping from every pore,” Fisk tells McKenna. She has since forgiven him.

[quote]It was Rossellini’s turn four years later, around the time Lynch was directing her in Wild At Heart. “David has this incredible sweetness but [he] completely cut me out of his life,” she recalls. “I didn’t see it coming.” Devastated, she wondered if it was because she did not meditate, before realising he had fallen in love with his editor Mary Sweeney, who became Lynch’s third wife. The marriage lasted a matter of months.

[quote]Throughout the book, and in his own telling, it is clear that Lynch’s most enduring passion is work. When his current wife, Emily Stofle, an actor who appeared in Inland Empire and Twin Peaks: The Return, became pregnant, he warned her that film would still come first. Their daughter was born when Lynch was 66, and Stofle 35. “After I had Lula, he disappeared into his work, which is what he does… he works and that’s where he gets his joy,” she tells McKenna.

[quote][bold]I ask Lynch how he manages to inspire such loyalty, despite such strict rationing of human contact – from his collaborators, friends, even his exes. He drops his cigarette on the floor and stubs it out with a boot before answering. “I like to have some people around. If I was totally alone I think I’d get funny, and not in a humorous way.”[/bold]

[quote][bold]As a father and husband he has often been absent, he concedes. “You gotta be selfish. And it’s a terrible thing. I never really wanted to get married, never really wanted to have children. One thing leads to another and there it is.”[/bold]

[quote]That sounds like regret, until he elaborates. “I did what I had to do. There could have been more work done. There are always so many interruptions.”

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by Anonymousreply 48June 28, 2018 1:25 AM

[quote]“He could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much. No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.”

You know who else is disruptive and who you can't counter in an intelligent way?

A toddler.

by Anonymousreply 1June 23, 2018 7:27 PM

He sounds like a raging narcissist, which is completely unsurprising.

by Anonymousreply 2June 23, 2018 7:28 PM

[quote] No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.

Ain't it the truth.

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by Anonymousreply 3June 23, 2018 7:31 PM

Yeah, I never imagined him like that, R2. I'm curious about the book.

by Anonymousreply 4June 23, 2018 7:31 PM

I love his work, but I've always suspected that I don't really want to know about his politics. There are some artists that are so completely enclosed in their own creative worlds that their grasp on practical reality (and hence politics) can be a little flighty and erratic. I'd put Kate Bush, Prince and Neil Young in the same camp.

by Anonymousreply 5June 23, 2018 7:37 PM

He makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 6June 23, 2018 7:38 PM

Just like blonde, bimbo, trophy wives, Hollywood types should keep their mouth full of cock and legs in the air. That is all they good for.

by Anonymousreply 7June 23, 2018 7:50 PM

okay, kinda done after "thinks but not sure if he voted libertarian." Maybe he's brilliant in other areas, but there is absolutely no reason to listen to somebody on politics who's too stupid in this area to know who he voted for.

by Anonymousreply 8June 23, 2018 8:48 PM

He is a true artist, and, as is often the case with artists in our society, he is absolutely totally devoted to his work. Human relations are amusements, material for the work, or crutches. Everyone in the arts knows this, and if you seek to live and love a true artist, you must know the danger. It can be thrilling to be around someone with so much expressive creativity. They can bring joy, insight, beauty, ferocious independence, a sense of clarity, and desire into your life, but you have to understand that you are not the center of his/her universe, and never will be.

by Anonymousreply 9June 23, 2018 8:58 PM

Interesting how Lynch doesn’t give a single example of how Trump’s “disruption” has made any issue better

by Anonymousreply 10June 23, 2018 9:02 PM

Presidents are judged by what they accomplished, not by how much they disrupted. Trump is a disaster. He has accomplished very little legislatively. Accomplishments are not signing executive orders.

by Anonymousreply 11June 23, 2018 9:03 PM

Listen, you crazy old fuck, presidents don't become "great" by disrupting the system into utter chaos and collapse. They become great by disrupting things and bringing about positive change.

Trump will go down in history for being the worst, most gawdawful blemish on the Office of the Presidency, and not for anything else.

by Anonymousreply 12June 23, 2018 9:05 PM

Unfortunately, I think artists are especially prone to the fallacy that anti-establishment "disruptors" are positive in and of themselves. This can be true in art, but it's a disastrous way to approach to politics. Hitler and Mao were both disruptors.

by Anonymousreply 13June 23, 2018 9:09 PM

He needs to do a project with Susan Sarandon and Colby Keller

by Anonymousreply 14June 23, 2018 9:13 PM

David Lynch gets it.

by Anonymousreply 15June 23, 2018 9:20 PM

Imagine having Isabella Rossellini, and then just discarding her.

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by Anonymousreply 16June 23, 2018 9:21 PM

Lynch sees Trump as one of his grotesque villains in his theatre of anxiety. Lynch is very much a product of innocent fifties suburban nostalgia denial. There is an arrested adolescent horror in Lynch's films where sex, violence, corruption are traumatically forced on this ideal and then become obsessions and fetishized.

I can't think of a single POC in Lynch's films but it many ways, Trump is the racist nightmare that Lynch would imagine thrust on POC after a "post-racial" POTUS if Lynch were interested in race in America.

Lynch's disrupters are always necessary for the innocents to mature in his films. But this isn't a film, the horror and costs are real and there is no writer/director ensuring that things will turn out alright.

by Anonymousreply 17June 23, 2018 9:26 PM

I'm kind of sick to my stomach thinking how similar this nightmare feels to a Lynch film. It makes an interesting two hour movie but a horrifying year and half reality with no signs of an end.

by Anonymousreply 18June 23, 2018 9:36 PM

This makes sense, compared to a Lynch film, R18.

by Anonymousreply 19June 23, 2018 9:39 PM

Lynch is another sheltered moron who thinks that what Trump is doing is entertaining because he can afford to watch everything burn down from the sidelines.

by Anonymousreply 20June 24, 2018 12:57 AM

Yeah, Lynch “gets it” —

He understands that a loutish, uninformed narcissist who has been nothing but a selfish lying pig his whole life might end up being a great president!

by Anonymousreply 21June 24, 2018 1:03 AM

Since it ( Trump) does not affect him- it does not concern him. Just like everything else.

by Anonymousreply 22June 24, 2018 1:13 AM

r22 Yes it's all fun and games because he's not getting kicked out of the country because his family brought him here as a child. Trump is being very disruptive by calling people names and that's good or something for our country. He's right you can't intelligently reason with a child.

by Anonymousreply 23June 24, 2018 1:20 AM

[quote]Trump is being very disruptive

Sun conjunct Uranus.

by Anonymousreply 24June 24, 2018 2:29 AM

bump

by Anonymousreply 25June 25, 2018 1:44 AM

[quote]No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.”

Lynch has a point.

No one so far -- Democrat or Republican -- has been able to go up against Trump and survive.

Trump is very good at throwing dirt and taking people down and provoking people into lashing out at him in self-destructive ways.

All of his Republican opponents in the primaries went down, and so did Hillary Clinton. And so did many of the journalists and celebrities who have lashed out at him. And he also took down James Comey. And Rex Tillerson. And on and on it goes.

The Democratic Nominee in 2020 needs to learn from the failures of those above and find a more effective way of countering Trump.

by Anonymousreply 26June 25, 2018 11:00 AM

He has done so much acid, he barely knows what day it is. Frankly he has always been insane.

by Anonymousreply 27June 25, 2018 11:03 AM

Someone above called Lynch a true artist. I saw the new Twin Peaks. Lynch is a hack with people blowing smoke up his ass.

by Anonymousreply 28June 25, 2018 11:05 AM

[quote]Everyone in the arts knows this, and if you seek to live and love a true artist, you must know the danger.

Dial it back, Mary. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 29June 25, 2018 11:15 AM

Lynch has become so self-absorbed that I'm certain he has absolutely no idea what is going on in the real world. Artistically he's dried up and turned into self parody, but his fans are too scared to admit this. The ending of Inland Empire where the camera just goes around and shoots several leading ladies from his past films, posing in an opulent home like it's the set for a Vogue photo shoot, was embarrassing, indulgent, onanistic. Everyone just politely ignored that, but couldn't when the Twin Peaks reboot arrived. Entertainment writers were wedded to posting about the show every week in recaps, explaining the oblique references, and when shit started to crumble and cease to make sense, they panicked. "Uhm, uh, Trent Reznor represents Universal horror films of the 1930s and the music video is a parody of communism! It's all very deep and you just don't understand it like I do."

Now, he's got a "Festival of Disruption" to shill for, and of course he's going with the cheesiest publicity gag: "Trump is a true disruptor! A world in flux is so very deep and exciting, don't you think?"

It's disappointing, but I think anyone, even someone like David Lynch, is going to start freaking out when old white Boomers like him start to get edged out of the culture.

by Anonymousreply 30June 25, 2018 11:23 AM

No one shook things up like Hitler?!?

by Anonymousreply 31June 25, 2018 11:24 AM

He's got it all wrong, he doesn't understand the word Disruption as it's being used today. That word has been buzzing around for a while now, like we want a disruptive design or disruptive solution. It never refers to change in the negative. It's literal meaning is rowdy, disorderly, undisciplined, wild, but its more current meaning is groundbreaking and innovative. When everyone started buying a little box called an iPod and downloaded digital music online instated of buying a cd, that was disruptive. Uber instead of a Taxi, disruptive. Soft contacts instead of glasses, disruptive. Email, texting, tweeting, disruptive. But Trump using propaganda to fuel hate for power, its been done many times in history, not disruptive at all.

by Anonymousreply 32June 25, 2018 11:25 AM

He's a BernieBro so of course he doesn't mind Trump.

[quote]Dear Twtter Friends, YAY! BERNIE SANDERS FOR PRESIDENT!!!

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by Anonymousreply 33June 25, 2018 11:26 AM

Oh, so Lynch is another Russian stooge/useful idiot, like Oliver Stone and Cornel West. Got it.

by Anonymousreply 34June 25, 2018 11:30 AM

oh, disruption

the only word known by idiots

by Anonymousreply 35June 25, 2018 11:32 AM

I was disappointed by the Twin Peaks update as well. There was none of the charm of the original version and no nuance.

I think Lynch is one of those Bernie Bros who think the whole system needs to fall apart to be rebuilt and is privileged enough to not have to worry about being hurt during that falling apart. It’s like those people who support riots, because they’ve never had to live in a neighborhood subject to one or tried to rebuild after one.

by Anonymousreply 36June 25, 2018 1:58 PM

Trump is not tweeting a Breitbart article that covers this statement. His neediness to be praised knows no bounds. His tweets are either bragging how he is the greatest (he now no longer even pretends not to be the greatest, he no longer qualifies that Washington or Lincoln might be up there with him, it is him alone.) or whining about some criticism of him and shouting out playground names.

I know he has tweeted about the kids separated at the border, but it is all blaming the Democrats, but when is the last time he has mentioned them where he has expressed any actual concern for their well-being? His tweets now are almost solely bragging, paranoia, or slamming someone or some institution.

by Anonymousreply 37June 25, 2018 11:17 PM

Yeah, the turd tweeted that Breitbart article and now Lynch is trending on Twitter. Almost got away with it...

by Anonymousreply 38June 25, 2018 11:54 PM

I loved seeing the straight film bros on Twitter lose their minds when Trump tweeted this. They kept saying people just "couldn't understand" the interview because they were too dumb and middlebrow; I'm surprised I didn't see one say Lynch was playing 3D chess.

Lynch voted Trump, I'm sure of it. "Gosh I forget who I voted for" was just too pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 39June 26, 2018 6:17 AM

Just to be clear, Lynch was never a good guy. He supported (and to my knowledge still supports) Polanski, he loved Reagan, he's made sketchy comments about poor people just not taking control of their lives with meditation like they should. I'm not surprised he thinks "no one" can counter Trump intelligently. The real surprise are the fangurls who are lying to cover for him.

by Anonymousreply 40June 26, 2018 6:22 AM

How come no one has come forward with a me too story about him. His movies have a creepy rapey vibe so he must have done something in real life.

by Anonymousreply 41June 26, 2018 6:28 AM

After tRump thanked him for his endorsement Lynch responds. It's too late, of course, as tRump will never acknowledge the response.

[quote]David Lynch responds to Trump: ‘You are causing suffering and division’

[quote]David Lynch has released a statement addressed to Donald Trump, urging him to rethink the way he is leading America.

[quote]In an interview with the Guardian, published on 23 June, the film-maker said that Trump “could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much”. Lynch also said that no one is able to counter Trump “in an intelligent way” while stating that he was “not really a political person”.

[quote][bold]The initial quote was picked up by Breitbart News and tweeted by Trump who then mentioned Lynch at a rally in South Carolina, saying the director’s career in Hollywood would be “over” for what he perceived as support.[/bold]

[quote]Lynch, who originally supported Bernie Sanders in the primaries and then Gary Johnson in the election, has now released a statement on Facebook to address any confusion.

[quote][bold]“I wish you and I could sit down and have a talk,” he writes. “This quote which has traveled around was taken a bit out of context and would need some explaining.”[/bold]

[quote]He continues: [bold]“Unfortunately, if you continue as you have been, you will not have a chance to go down in history as a great president. This would be very sad it seems for you – and for the country. You are causing suffering and division.”[/bold]

[quote]Lynch finally made a plea for Trump to rethink his agenda.

[quote][bold]“It’s not too late to turn the ship around,” he writes. “Point our ship toward a bright future for all. You can unite the country. Your soul will sing. Under great loving leadership, no one loses – everybody wins. It’s something I hope you think about and take to heart. All you need to do is treat all the people as you would like to be treated.”[/bold]

[quote]Lynch’s most recent screen credit was the much-acclaimed return to his most famous work, Twin Peaks: The Return, which aired in 2017. His new book Room to Dream, co-authored by Kristine McKenna, was released earlier this month."

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by Anonymousreply 42June 27, 2018 1:07 AM

The statement:

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by Anonymousreply 43June 27, 2018 1:10 AM

Lynch voted third party in the election effectively throwing away his vote. Politics is not his area of,expertise.

by Anonymousreply 44June 27, 2018 1:19 AM

R41, he has always been described as a gentleman by his actors.

by Anonymousreply 45June 27, 2018 2:07 AM

Maybe Lynch is working a sycophantic angle from the North Korean playbook, but Trump cannot undo the damage he has wrought and his soul will never sing. It is a rotted out, festering carcass that can issue no music other than a dirge-like Pied Piper tune drawing his followers toward the precipice of self-destruction.

by Anonymousreply 46June 28, 2018 1:09 AM

I could never be obsessed or totally devoted to my work. I have to stop and smell the roses. Life is short and then you're dead. There is no "afterlife".

These guys who live these sterile lives of work, pussy, work, sports, work, money must have robot brains.

by Anonymousreply 47June 28, 2018 1:17 AM

So my old post was deleted earlier and I have no clue why. Stupid.

Anyway, he doesn't seem to get that Trump can't be reasonably negotiated with. And I'm perfectly willing to claim that his privilege is letting him think otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 48June 28, 2018 1:25 AM
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