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Fadi Fawaz Saga XV

Still so much interest in the Fadi Fawaz saga. So much unanswered questions?

by Anonymousreply 600August 24, 2018 10:15 AM

When will this sage end. Predictions Please. On the 20th thread maybe?

by Anonymousreply 1June 20, 2018 4:48 PM

That picture in the previous thread which had the stupid Lovelies debating if GM was laughing or crying was a picture Keiran posted on FB. He was showing the Mr Hands video to him and this was George's reaction. These women are first class morons.

by Anonymousreply 2June 20, 2018 4:51 PM

That Swedish woman or whoever the impostor is who claims to have been his secret love and had George's child cant resist jumping into these mindless convos either. She is explaining the laughing/crying picture to them

ALPHA ‏ @TheOnlyMrsGKP Jun 19 Replying to @marymesingle @1ofGMsLovelies George express a lot of mixed feelings in this photo, giggly, curious, startled and sad. He was shown a video clip by Kieran who also took the photo, the content of that clip cannot be shown here. That is the story behind this photo and his reaction. 😎

I guess the baby mama is fine with her love hanging out with rent boys and doing drugs all day. It is "this kind of love". What a mess these fans and deranged individuals are making

by Anonymousreply 3June 20, 2018 5:12 PM

I have a great dislike to these lovelies'. They talk about respecting George's legacy but choose to entertain anything and everything that is considered negative.

1).They repost that Double Life documentary that Channel 5 and Reelz channel broadcasted recently.

2) Then the lovelies are agreeing over who was better for George, all while saying let's focus on his talent.

3) The lovelies follow Fadi and repost his stupid messages then get anger when they discover he was just shiting with them.

4) The lovelies believe that garden is George Michael's legacy, which is not true. The man said he wanted to be remember by his music and being a genius kind person. No they believe that garden is George's legacy.

5) This lovelies have a strong dislike for David and George's family which is sad. Because they loved him before and after the fame unlike his escorts.

I believe some of these people became fans after George died. They wanted and needed to be apart of something which is unfortunately for Georg and his family. Now some of these individuals are trying to find a way to have a party at George's home. After the family ask them to please respect our privacy, but they refuse to do this.

by Anonymousreply 4June 20, 2018 5:50 PM

I thought the photo of GM's "son" was proven to be fake as well as some photo of the Swedish woman was really a Geri photo?

The Lovelies still believe in her? And she appeared again, after being exposed as a fraud?

by Anonymousreply 5June 20, 2018 6:00 PM

^ Swedish woman account is a fake one. But she is still around trying to spread her nonsense. There are a few lovelies that talk to her. Thank God they have not fallen for her stuff in large numbers and given her a platform to spread her fakery

by Anonymousreply 6June 20, 2018 6:34 PM

Let not entertain the deranged lovelies into this thread.

by Anonymousreply 7June 20, 2018 7:16 PM

The only thing proven to be fake is the few not so Lovelies who went completely insane when they realized GM actually fxxxed a woman but was not interested in them. As said many times, there are some seriously delusional fans out there, who put their entire existence around GM and seems to actually believe he belongs to them, and he is what they want him to be, it has nothing to do with GM and this was some of the worst. The only fake here is the "evidence", pictures, Twitter rulings and so on made by those few, who also got hold of pictures by hacking into a private computer and committing other offences to shut down a truth they could not handle, and the account of the woman has never been false or more than one. They would never have been putting themselves and others thru that risk if they didn't actually know it was true, think, and this is the kind of info and persons you decide to believe? Without me telling you who those persons are I think you may already know, and you already know that a couple of those are well known to has real diagnoses as psychologically disturbed. This only tells me you are as sad as those fanatics who can´t take who GM was and fight to silence the truths to keep him as they found it fit for him to be in their fantasy, completely lacking eighter knowledge or respect of the real GM. Like they do with so many other matters too. Until you actually had the real facts about this, and not the fake ones, made by obsessive fans, it would have been very much more intelligent not to follow that particular crowd without questioning the lunatics leading you. At least one of those lunatics are in here and try to derail your own thinking into suggesting it was proven false, that it never was.

by Anonymousreply 8June 20, 2018 7:32 PM

Add to R8 The head fanatic who completely lost her sanity about this even made a complete fool out of her self by also claiming she had got the FBI to start an investigation about the Swedish woman, this was obviously also proven to be false. Time to get your heads on straight and see what is GM and respect that, this woman is a big part of him, whether the fanatics like it or not.

by Anonymousreply 9June 20, 2018 7:49 PM

This head fanatic has done this before, there is at least one more person who has been obsessively hunted beyond any normal boundaries by her and that hunt was also based on lies and fabricated "evidence".

by Anonymousreply 10June 20, 2018 8:00 PM

[Quote] Time to get your heads on straight and see what is GM and respect that, this woman is a big part of him, whether the fanatics like it or not.

This is a lunatic's ravings, right?

The "Swedish woman" has been debunked, correct?

by Anonymousreply 11June 20, 2018 8:06 PM

Wtf. This thread started immediately with all the nutters. Most of what I have read so far is incoherent. Maybe it’s time to stick a fork in the saga series.

by Anonymousreply 12June 20, 2018 8:18 PM

R11 No it has absolutely not. Re-read R8-10

by Anonymousreply 13June 20, 2018 9:05 PM

Yeah, but you sound like an unhinged Lovely, R8 through R10.

Everyone says she's a fake.

by Anonymousreply 14June 20, 2018 9:17 PM

You who don´t take GM choice for real, You do exactly what those fanatics want you to, you believe what they created... and instead of showing respect for GM you discredit what meant the most to him, think about what he would have felt about that if you do care one bit for GM oppose to those who created these lies about GM choice.

by Anonymousreply 15June 20, 2018 9:18 PM

I hope this post. What is Piers problem with Andrew. I hope he realize Andrew is not Kenny. He is not for sale.

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by Anonymousreply 16June 20, 2018 9:19 PM

R14 How clearly can it be explained, she is not the fake. And by believing the creations of those fanatics you miss out on a big part of GM and treat him terribly bad by doing so.

by Anonymousreply 17June 20, 2018 9:23 PM

Her photo was proven to be a Geri photo and her "son" photo was proven to be Photo-shopped.

HOW is she not fake?

by Anonymousreply 18June 20, 2018 9:27 PM

An unhinged Lovely, cracked me up. Every know and then you need a good laugh.

If George did have a son he wouldn’t have been able to keep that a big secret for years. He would more than likely have been involved in his son’s life. He would not want to repeat the type of relationship he had with his father growing up.

by Anonymousreply 19June 20, 2018 9:53 PM

R18 No, her photo was SAID to be Geri by one of the deeply disturbed persons driving this, well known for showing DMs, having at least 3 Twitter accounts, getting stopped by Twitter for breaking the Twitter rules over and over, Blocking people, open and insult, block again and lie about everything from her own civil status to this, everyone knows she is a pure lier and only nasty, she has a known hate for this woman, obviously fired up by jealousy. Next, the photo of her son is not photoshopped according to specialists. So NO it is not, it is all the created BS you are following.

R19 If you had any real info you would have known he was. She has not said a lot, but this is one of the few times, two answers. Will copy it for you, following

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by Anonymousreply 20June 20, 2018 10:05 PM

Here is the text in the link Dinkiez Alpha I am the woman you are talking about. When reading your comments I ask myself if some of you have thought at all about, it is actual humans you are talking about, very much including your comments regarding a very young man, my son! I usually never reply to the speculations, but this time I will, when it comes to my family some have crossed a very significant line, I could point at some comments above, but I think you understand. I am sad to see some show pure disrespect of Georges choices and decisions for HIS life! There are so many things that are wrong in the made assumptions I feel I have to write this to you even if I probably shouldn´t, and I truly wish I didn't have to, that none of this had ever been known, but to protect my loved ones I´ll do anything, and hopefully you will take it to heart, I write in all well-meaning, please receive it kindly.

-Yes, of course, the ones it actually concern knows, always have! -And my son is most definitely real!

-I never even once said anything about this official and did not start this rumors! I still haven't said anything or told anything officially about it, and have absolutely no intention to do so, it is our private lives we are talking about! And to address the specifics of what some of you say, I have not spread it on social media or anywhere! -I never wanted any of it to be other than private, as it been for over 20 years and was supposed to stay. This is not out by our choice or desire, but the exact opposite and created by the hands of someone who had the bad taste to stab us in the back by telling about this when George was no longer here. It is our private lives and the real humans in it you are talking about.

-Your request about if DNA test has been done or not is an entirely private matter and will never be of any concern to anyone else then the involved whom obviously knows and always have. -This is about one woman, me, the others you mix into this has no connection to this at all. -The story copied in here from a paper is not me eighter, and it has no truth to it whatsoever. -I am the direct opposite of the nutters some of you try to mix me up with, give GM some credit! -I am absolutely not crazy or wanting any attention. -I have only ever had one account, never more, that seems to be more then some can handle, haha, even if I hardly ever use that one. -The tabloids started months ago, with no success, some things in life are not for sale, this is one of those things, that should be obvious. It is bad enough it has spread this far. I want nothing except our privacy. -That answer your thoughts about money too, I want nothing, that should be perfectly clear by now. This is all about true love!

-This is all coming from someone leaking information about us and gossipers creating lies and spread and now some of you talk like you believe in it as facts, and some make judgments like if you actually knew. The info was originally leaked in a few places several months ago. Continue

by Anonymousreply 21June 20, 2018 10:09 PM

Continue There are two kinds of fans of George, the ones that care about him for real, those will respect his decisions for his life and what made him happy and embrace that happiness. Then we have the other kind, those who are in this for themselves, sadly, those will not put themselves or their own feelings aside to respect his.

If you are the last kind, please don't say anything, I ask you to show some thoughts to the humans involved, especially children and let this go, just forget you ever heard about it and move on. This should be obvious to all, especially any mothers in here. But since some of this is already out, make it something good for all and let the ones who want the comfort feel it, knowing of something entirely good for George, the most treasured and well-protected part of his life. And leave it there.

My hopes with this lines are to let you know what you need to let this go back to the way we wanted it, completely private.

And last, this is written in entirely good intentions, sharing the fact that this is an entirely positive part of George, filled with true love and happiness is all with kind intentions. Don't rip my head off for trying to give you the comfort knowing the truth about it may bring.

I do not want anyone to fight about this, if it is received badly it will immediately be removed, but I want to give you a chance of knowing. I will be who I am, my life will be my life, and my son will be my son, that won't change. I am only one incredibly lucky and grateful woman. I want no harm!

All Peace and Love!Please don't let me regret this.

by Anonymousreply 22June 20, 2018 10:10 PM

Here are the second reply Some serious offenses were committed by a few persons, following one who could not deal with the knowledge of this, knowing that me and George are true, this person seemingly lost it completely, turning this into a persecution for me, by lying, hacking and creating the false information and false proofs, you now appear to believe in and mixing wildly. These offenses are at this time handled by professionals, serious violations have been made. This is one private picture hacked from my private computer where its only purpose for years has been as a bait for hackers and to provide an easy identification of the hacker itself, no one has taken it until now. But I am sure you already know that. What you don´t know is that the photo was done on top of a real one, only changing the top of George, in the original he looks just as happy and mischevious but looking at the camera who caught us, I still have that photo, and I would never put it on social media! I have no idea who did the picture, I got it as protection from George, I think he would be the one to decide if he wanted this picture done or not and if there were people out there that actually made it necessary to do, and he was right. No, I don´t photoshop my pictures, I don´t have to! And I leave it there and would be grateful if you did too. You are in the right to your beliefs, that is fine, but then just let it go. I don´t want any fights over this, it will not change the truth anyway and only hurt people. I must be able to answer what people trying to understand in all well-meaning, without being attacked, I want no harm, Peace and Love! 😘

by Anonymousreply 23June 20, 2018 10:11 PM

Fake straight GM.

by Anonymousreply 24June 20, 2018 10:11 PM

R24 What makes him straight? Not the above!

by Anonymousreply 25June 20, 2018 10:14 PM

The Lovely here thinks GM had a woman mistress for most of his later years and she was the mother of his son.

She thinks GM was really straight.

by Anonymousreply 26June 20, 2018 10:19 PM

R26 You have a lot to learn. For a start, you are the only one claiming him to be straight. Who is the Lovlie she you are talking about? If you think it´s me you got even more totally wrong...

by Anonymousreply 27June 20, 2018 10:27 PM

Once George’s public coming out event took place in a restroom across the street from the Beverly Hills Hotel there was no stopping George Michael. He wore his gay pride 24/7 on his sleeve. Perhaps he didn’t have his sexuality completely figured out in his teens and early twenties but he sure made up for it in his later years.

If you really are a true fan or one of his Lovelies the only thing you should concern yourselves with is his legacy of his 30 some year musical career. He was born with a gift. He knew it from an early age. He had a beautiful voice, the ability to write wonderful lyrics, sometimes he sang backup, he taught himself how to produce and play the instruments on his albums. That’s what we should be talking about. Not his private life.

by Anonymousreply 28June 20, 2018 10:31 PM

R28 I wish you lived like you talk this time. And add not piss on his choices.

by Anonymousreply 29June 20, 2018 10:33 PM

[29] I think you have me mixed up with someone else. Once George’s career took off no one could tell him what to do. He made all his own choices. Not ones I would have made but I’m not George Michael. He lived his life the way he wanted to. I respect his choices. Doesn’t mean I respect Fadi or Kenny.

by Anonymousreply 30June 20, 2018 10:38 PM

R30 I haven´t mixed you up, even this time I wish you lived like you talk, but you are not respecting his choices in this case, your comments about it would have felt really much to him, and not like respect of his choices.

R6 You know why it is still here after all this time, different forums and different people trying to talk about it, things that come back are usually true.

by Anonymousreply 31June 20, 2018 10:41 PM

R30 But there are a lot worse than you in here, those who don´t care about GM at all or how he would have feelt. You have some really healthy thoughts too.

by Anonymousreply 32June 20, 2018 10:44 PM

Ok this forum has turn to cramp real fast. I thought this was that George Michael saga, but its Fadi sage. So why are we discussing that fake story here and not its original forum? That's right no one went to that form so you decided to bring it here. SMDH.

Anyway glad Andrew did not sell George out like Piers Morgan had hope. Anyway care on

by Anonymousreply 33June 20, 2018 10:58 PM

Everytime you say something nasty about GM woman and the son, you are treating him worse than anybody else and you would hurt him the most, think about it.

by Anonymousreply 34June 20, 2018 11:41 PM

I enjoyed George Michael’s music and still do. His personal life doesn’t concern me. If anyone wants to discuss his music or his career I am all for it. I’m not interested in in private life.

I wasn’t able to access the info pertaining to P Morgan or Andrew.

by Anonymousreply 35June 20, 2018 11:59 PM

P34 Pls go back to the George Michael Saga thread reserved for your Alpha stories and leave us alone. Nobody believes your story that there was a Swediish woman with whom GM had an affair in 1997 and had his son in 1998. He kept it secret for 20 yrs. Nobody believes it. You can repeat it a million times. But it is still the same. By trying to perpetuate this fantasy story you are the one being disrespectful and slandering GM. So dont keep preaching to us that we are being disrespectful over and over. You and that so-called Alpha are one and the same. You started these rumours on DL and then took it to other platforms.

by Anonymousreply 36June 21, 2018 1:09 AM

^ R34 sorry

by Anonymousreply 37June 21, 2018 1:10 AM

R22 R23 and all these insane rants. Listen up. If George had a pregnant woman lover when he went on CNN in 1998 and said I have not had a relationship with a woman for the last 10 yrs, then he is the biggest liar in the world. He said I have no children or family, so as a free agent I can do and say whatever I want and that scares the Murdoch press. So he was lying again. If after having a son, he was hiring a rent boy a day for yrs and slept with uncountable number of men that makes him most irresponsible. So you by your fantasy stories are trying to slander GM and make him appear a horrible human being. Which he was not. There is no way if he had child he would not have acknowledged or taken care of and been part of that child's life

by Anonymousreply 38June 21, 2018 1:25 AM

Let's block the deranged gm lovelies that keep posting that mess of a rumor. He or she will go away. Let's not engage the mentally ill and feed into their psychosis.

by Anonymousreply 39June 21, 2018 2:24 AM

Block AND F&F. Make it go away forever. This head case has taken delusional psycho to a whole new level.

The "Alpha"! ROTFLMFAO! Delusions of grandeur, much?

by Anonymousreply 40June 21, 2018 3:41 AM

Paul Young ‏ #OnThisDay - 1986, George and I performed at the Prince’s Trust Rock Gala. What a gig and line up that was! #OTD

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by Anonymousreply 41June 21, 2018 9:22 AM

[36] I agree with you 100%. If George had a son he would have acknowledged the fact.

Lots of crazies out there during and after George’s life.

by Anonymousreply 42June 21, 2018 11:49 AM

Why is this thread being ruined again by this topic

by Anonymousreply 43June 21, 2018 12:03 PM

Because no one is going to the forum from which it is located in. So the crazy are coming over here because Fadi saga is more popular.

by Anonymousreply 44June 21, 2018 12:13 PM

This was started in this thread ^but belong to the other one, it is not fun enough in here so they had to use this topic.

Now, If you for some reason need to live in your sheltered little world, built on what others wanted you to believe, and can´t handle anything going outside how you decided it should be, and how you thought it was, and instead act beyond stupid while hiding in anonymous forums, being nasty because you never would dare to say a word in real life, then you are too sad and I won´t stop you.

There are a lot of intelligent open minded people on this planet, several billion in fact, that has no need to put up shields from the truth because they can´t handle the real world or would ever be satisfied living their lives arguing about GM old boyfriends in a forum, you are welcome to keep doing that and live by your own pathetic restrictions, but respect the ones who don´t have those needs and issues,´and therefore choosing knowledge instead of denial. Smallminded persons have always been the ones in denial, fighting against all new knowledge and development, so even here.

For your information, I am born and breed in Cyprus, and it is not that big, I heard about this forever from relatives and never got the impression it was that big secret, as I now realize it was in other parts of the world. I have seen GM and Alpha myself once, they seemed really nice and happy. I am not alone, we are many who know this. But keep your eyes shut if you are dumb enough to trust fabricated lies from obsessed fanatics who think they own GM and some diagnosed lunatics, none of them have ever met any of them, and are driven by jealousy that made them lose it, instead of the real-life witnesses and persons who know them.

I don´t care, except for the way you treat them, that is not ok. GM, Alpha and the son, I can´t see what they have ever done to you? They just lived their lives like they decided and wanted, and could when looking at the kind of obsessed fanatic fans around, I understand why they kept it low profile. How can you manage to avoid seeing that, is it that hard to look at yourself critically and be able to improve? You say GM would have told you, that he wouldn´t have lied to cover it, I say look at your way of treating his family Alpha and the son, and therefore how you treat him, and you see why he had to do precisely that.

I haven´t been in DL for that long, but I went back and looked at this and it has been here for a very long time, kept coming back, how several different persons have tried to share it and been attacked by a few persons, this is not bitshing, this is persecution and this is not people who care about the singer-songwriter and genius GM. Why so scared about this? Or what is so bad about that GM had someone who made him happy in his life, I don´t care who, I am happy that he did, that is what should be important? His music is what is important, yes, but you don´t live by giving him credit for that, in reality, you are fighting about his boyfriends and trash everyone around him and each other, shamefully.

It still doesn´t change the fact that everytime you say something nasty about GM woman and the son, you are treating GM worse than anybody else and you would hurt him the most, think about it,

Think about what you are doing if there is even the slightest possibility you actually might be wrong.

Don´t waste time with BS comments, heard them before.

by Anonymousreply 45June 21, 2018 2:00 PM

[R45] Thank you for clarifying my believes of some of George Michael's fans. Some of you have to be the most insane individuals on the planet. Is no wonder the man use drugs the why he did. Between the two formal ex escorts using him for fame and fountain. He had to also deal with people like you [R45] and the others on Twitter who would wait outside his house or break into his home. The man never had any peace of mind to himself, people always wanting something from him, but never received anything from people like you [R45].

A group of you are upset because Andrew did not answer Piers Morgan's questions about George. Going and saying Andrew was jealous and use George, like really. I guess if people choose to think like you/lovelies then its no wonder George is no longer here.

I can say this with all my heart in caps. GEORGE MICHEAL HAD SOME OF THE WROST FANS AROUND. People who would spread lies better then the Mirror. People who dislike those that are/were loyal to George. People who would send there minions out to attack his family and David over a stupid garden. And here you are spending this fan fiction on this forum.

Get help, Get upset at what I wrote because I for is leaving this sad , sad tale of George Michael's Life.

P.S To the others on here that live in the real world. Good luck with this mess.

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by Anonymousreply 46June 21, 2018 3:53 PM

[quote]People who would spread lies better then the Mirror.

Totally agree. It's one thing to hate on a person like Fadi or Kenny, it's another thing to totally invent lies and spread it as if it is fact

by Anonymousreply 47June 21, 2018 5:09 PM

45 you are permanently blocked because you are insane. Leave this thread and go and create your own.

by Anonymousreply 48June 22, 2018 2:36 AM

Do some of you guys think the m1 accident was also a suicide attempt, just like the emergency calls to his house in his last years.

by Anonymousreply 49June 22, 2018 11:21 AM

R49 I have a close friend who lived in Highgate until 2015. He told me that the ambulance was called to GM's house several times in the last years my friend lived in Highgate and it has become annoying. Of course, he doesn't know why the ambulance was called; specifically whether it was a suicide attempt or some other medical emergencies

by Anonymousreply 50June 22, 2018 12:40 PM

I do not believe George killed himself. He may have felt that why after his mother's death, but he pulled through that. I do believe he was much sicker then he lead-on. George has stated in many interviews that he was good at keeping secrets and blocking unpleasant thing out of his mind.

We many never know what happen in during the m1 accident . I think George had a Seizures/Epilepsy episode. Because the woman who help then stated that George had a confused and lost look on his face as if he did not know where he was. Its was on YouTube I need to look for that link, but that always played in my mind when I hear about the MI accident.

Epilepsy is a neurological disorder that results from abnormal activities in the brain. Brain's abnormal activity could be due to an inherited genetic condition, trauma to head, or diseases and developmental disorders of the brain. Commonly noted symptoms include temporary confusion, episodes of staring blankly, jerking and/or twitching of arms and legs. Medications are the first choice of treatment for epilepsy. Other methods, including surgery, are recommended when medications fail.

Seizures are symptoms of a brain problem. They happen because of sudden, abnormal electrical activity in the brain. When people think of seizures, they often think of convulsions in which a person's body shakes rapidly and uncontrollably. Not all seizures cause convulsions. There are many types of seizures and some have mild symptoms. Seizures fall into two main groups. Focal seizures, also called partial seizures, happen in just one part of the brain. Generalized seizures are a result of abnormal activity on both sides of the brain.

Most seizures last from 30 seconds to 2 minutes and do not cause lasting harm. However, it is a medical emergency if seizures last longer than 5 minutes or if a person has many seizures and does not wake up between them. Seizures can have many causes, including medicines, high fevers, head injuries and certain diseases. People who have recurring seizures due to a brain disorder have epilepsy. That may was the reason for the many calls to Highgate.

[R49] If George's neighbors became annoyed because of this. Then they are just a group of asshole at best.

by Anonymousreply 51June 22, 2018 5:34 PM

We will never really know the details regarding George’s life and health during his last few years of life. He very well may have had seizures or a number of other ailments. You can’t abuse your body for years by smoking cigarettes, alcohol, smoking weed, drugs such as poppers, crack, cocaine or even heroin which he had a history of and he said himself he used. I am a big fan of George Michael and his music. As a fan I would like to have shaken him and told him to wake up and take care of himself you have a gift you idiot. I’m not naive. George was very intelligent and head strong and made his own decisions from the days of Wham! I realize he struggled with depression, his sexuality (due to the era he was born, being in the limelight and media) and loneliness for years. Self medicating with alcohol and/or drugs I’m sure numbed the pain and made things seem more bearable. George lived his life the way he wanted to from a young age until December 25, 2016. He was a gifted musician and he had an ability to write songs that will be relevant for years to come. That’s how I will remember him.

by Anonymousreply 52June 22, 2018 6:55 PM

Have anyone ever noticed his posture later on when he started gaining weight. His belly got bigger right after 2013. I remember looking at his pictures on Google right after he died and he did not look healthy.

by Anonymousreply 53June 22, 2018 10:38 PM

R51 falling out of a car for any reason will cause a confused lost look lol. There is nothing to suggest epilepsy.

by Anonymousreply 54June 22, 2018 11:54 PM

[R53] Andrew gave an interview in Italy that was very telling about George's heath after the M1 accident. Here is the interview don't know if it been post already. Around 2:47 Andrew talks about George. Its a really good interview I now understand why George had so much respect for Andrew. I just wish George had keep his old friends around that keep him grounded and not the money hungry fame chancing circle he had started around 1988 -2013.

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by Anonymousreply 55June 23, 2018 7:08 AM

It sounds as if Ridgeley grew up and understood he couldn't hang onto his youth whereas George Michael went on acting like a 20 year old. People thought Ridgeley was an untalented idiot at the time but though he wasn't blessed with George Michael's talent, maybe he was a lot brighter than everyone thought.

by Anonymousreply 56June 23, 2018 12:36 PM

[R56] True between the two of them Andrew was the strongest after all. He took a real beating in the press and public. But he did not allow other people's option to define him. Whereas George was always explaining himself and trying to have people understand him.

by Anonymousreply 57June 23, 2018 1:41 PM

Poster 54 you are right, failing out of a moving car on an highway will confusing. It does not mean he was having epilepsy. I still believe it was either he was in a drug haze or a suicide attempt that scared him.

by Anonymousreply 58June 23, 2018 3:35 PM

I’m not so sure Andrew was the stronger of the two. Andrew never had to deal with sexuality issues, he faded in the background of Wham! to the point where he became irrelevant, he was good looking but he never had the raw sex appeal that George had nor the talent. Andrew owed the record company an album. The album was not successful. Andrew wanted to be rich from a young age. George wanted to be loved and successful. It was never about the money to George. They were very different people. Andrew walked away from Wham! and pursued many avenues. Andrew knew he couldn’t ride on George’s coattails forever. George couldn’t walk away. Music is what made George tick. George dealt with loneliness and severe depression. Maybe in a different era George wouldn’t have been so tormented.

by Anonymousreply 59June 23, 2018 3:58 PM

Any updates regarding George Michael’s estate?

by Anonymousreply 60June 23, 2018 6:04 PM

I'm fairly certain the minute that will is filed with the probate court, the news will be everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 61June 23, 2018 7:23 PM

Did the Gay Mafia murder GM in order to keep him from coming out as straight?

(You never know what the Lovelies will delude themselves into next).

by Anonymousreply 62June 23, 2018 7:34 PM

Well if George Michael was straight so am I.

by Anonymousreply 63June 23, 2018 7:40 PM

[QUOTE](You never know what the Lovelies will delude themselves into next).

Well, the Kenny fans have been discussing this spoof "George Michael Diaries" utterly convinced that George wrote it because he loved Kenny so much and that George is a very open man. And he loved Kenny so much so the Kenny entries in this diary must have been written by George [And no, despite someone telling me that it is a spoof and not real, some fans believe it is real]

*GROAN*

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by Anonymousreply 64June 23, 2018 9:02 PM

Has he gone back to porn now. To support himself ?

by Anonymousreply 65June 23, 2018 9:04 PM

[R64] Those Kenny fans have to be just as crazy as the Swiss child rumor group. I believe these people are/were never fans of George, but want to belong to something. I think they was the reaction to his death and inserted their own beliefs into George and Kenny. They watch all the interviews and we all know how Kenny doll inserted himself into the public and these people think that Kenny is the great love. One of them even stated that Kenny is the one keeping George legacy alive and Anselmo was a user and wanted to hurt George. I am not kidding about this. Then when that doc aired on Channel 5 one "lovely "was shock that George cruise. I'm like you guys need so help and stop acting as if you know George Michael when non of us do. But you cant tell that to those Kenny fans (I refuse to call them George fans').

by Anonymousreply 66June 23, 2018 9:57 PM

R59 You are right, “music made George tick…” Music was his mistress and he possessed it completely. Because of his strength in the face of relentless condemnation – not just from the press but from “so-called friends” who sold him out or took advantage of him in ways we’ll never fully know, we’ve been blessed with a musical legacy that is still revealing itself. By the way, let’s not forget June 25th would have been George’s 55th birthday. Let’s celebrate the gorgeous legacy he left us – his artistry, his philanthropy, his music.

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by Anonymousreply 67June 24, 2018 4:07 AM

I believe George had seizures when M1 incident happened. George never fully recovered from pneumonia. Pneumonia and sepsis damaged his body lot more than he ever told us. Vienna Hospital may be the best but his pneumonia was diagnosed when he was close to death it was just too late

by Anonymousreply 68June 24, 2018 9:23 PM

So how is Fadi going to celebrate George’s birthday?

by Anonymousreply 69June 24, 2018 11:46 PM

I wonder if Kenny will acknowledge George's birthday. He didn't last year, but me may say something so his fans can believe he cared for George.

by Anonymousreply 70June 25, 2018 12:35 AM

68. You are speculating. None of us are sure it is a seizure that caused him to fall out of a moving car on a highway. It could be a number of reasons like also drug haze or suicide attempt or seizure. We don't know since his people never stated what happened.it is still a mystery.

by Anonymousreply 71June 25, 2018 2:08 AM

R52 well stated.

by Anonymousreply 72June 25, 2018 2:18 AM

Happy 55th Birthday George

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by Anonymousreply 73June 25, 2018 10:25 AM

If George had a seizure would he have the wherewithal to open up a heavy car door? And why would he want to? And if it was a seizure why wouldn't his people just say so. No harm in that. Or Epilepsy? If George had Epilepsy he would be a spokesman. With all the recent suicides I think George went there too. He just didn't succeed. Not sure about Christmas eve. Statistically when one survives a suicide they are grateful to be alive. You never know with George. Maybe accidental overdose. RIP and Happy Birthday GM.

by Anonymousreply 74June 25, 2018 12:18 PM

[R74] Why do you believe he committed suicide? If you believe that theory, then why choose a very public why of doing this? George keep a lot of thing to himself, he also did not want to feed the media any stories to span to fit their narrative..

by Anonymousreply 75June 25, 2018 12:48 PM

75 you don't know either. All we are doing is speculating. If it is not suicide or epilepsy then it might be a drug daze.

by Anonymousreply 76June 25, 2018 2:17 PM

We will never know. It probably was a situation where he did his usual drugs and a combination of his health problems escalated into a complete body shutdown. Everyone may be a little correct.

After watching The Staircase and reading the documentaries that surfaced with the series I really guestion why Fadi was in his car on Xmas Eve and why did it take him so long to reach out for help. If you haven’t watched The Staircase you should. It is on Netflix’s.

Like I mentioned above we will never know. What I do know is we lost an extremely gifted artist with a voice (he definitely learned how to use his voice), that could sing anything especially in his prime. His version of Somebody To Love by Queen put him on the map for his vocal abilities. His ability to write songs that will be around for decades (Freedom, Faith, I Want Your Sex, A Different Corner, Careless Whisper, his classic Last Christmas, and too many to list). George, arranged, produced, sang backup on his songs and played most of the instruments on his recordings. He accomplished the said mentioned as a school dropout. George was very intelligent and had a great sense of humor. A talent and/or genius qualities that he possessed doesn’t happen everyday.

George was a caring and generous man and quietly contributed to the less fortunate. He was too kind and sensitive in so many areas.

George wanted to be remembered for his songwriting skills. He is remembered for writing songs and a lot more positive attributes.

I am not referring to his personal life. Everyone has skeletons in their closet.

Let today be about George’s accomplishments and his 55th birthday.

by Anonymousreply 77June 25, 2018 6:18 PM

[R77] Those are some very kind words. George was a legend and should be remember for his talent and generosity.

I just his fans would respect his family wishes.

by Anonymousreply 78June 25, 2018 7:42 PM

I have always been curious as to who were with George in the car during the M1 accident. Fadi was interviewed saying he was not there. Daily Mail said “two men” ... but who are those two men?

by Anonymousreply 79June 26, 2018 12:22 AM

I often wondered the same. The young woman that stopped her car to assist George was interviewed. However, she never mentioned the people that were in the vehicle with George. She said he was lucky to have survived the accident.

by Anonymousreply 80June 26, 2018 12:37 AM

Ugh with this epilepsy thing. Why is this being pushed so much all of the sudden. Zero supportive evidence - unlike the other theories like drugs, suicide attempt while strung out , or panic attack, or a bad drug trip Please stop banging on about epilepsy. It’s getting tiresome.

The M1 people in his car were never named. One referred to him as mate apparently according to one witness interview. As in are you okay mate. Or maybe it was it’s going to be okay mate. But the people in the car were never identified or photographed. We do know this accident caused among other things a scar at the back of his head and around / above the elbow of one arm and that according to Andrew while he had issues post pneumonia, he became very very unwell after this accident and Andrew was with him after he came home from the hospital (photos are on the web). After this period, keiran and co. as well as Paul stag were gone gone gone.

by Anonymousreply 81June 26, 2018 12:52 AM

[R81] Here is a story about the incident, but no photos.

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by Anonymousreply 82June 26, 2018 1:58 AM

Here is a more detail, but the site wont pick up the link. So copy paste to search engine to read the story.

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by Anonymousreply 83June 26, 2018 2:02 AM

[quote] drug haze or suicide attempt or seizure.

speculating much?

by Anonymousreply 84June 26, 2018 11:02 AM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account

Jun 24

Light x

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by Anonymousreply 85June 26, 2018 11:02 AM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account

22h22 hours ago

Today is a court day very nervous :(

by Anonymousreply 86June 26, 2018 11:02 AM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account

18h ago

I see light :)

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by Anonymousreply 87June 26, 2018 11:03 AM

Attention seeker Tonia was one of those fans who defied family’s wishes not to leave tributes. To hell with what family said, it’s about me, me, me and my sorrow (puke).

Good thing family means business: by evening, they threw (ehem, cleared) those tributes away. The family is also serious!

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by Anonymousreply 88June 26, 2018 11:35 AM

Posting the image

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by Anonymousreply 89June 26, 2018 11:42 AM

Message from the family

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by Anonymousreply 90June 26, 2018 12:39 PM

Back to Fadi... Can someone explain to me what FF's reasoning was for sleeping in the car on Christmas Eve? No hysteria, but why he says he did it. I can't find the older stuff online for myself.

by Anonymousreply 91June 26, 2018 1:51 PM

No reason was ever given. Just this snippet in the Mirror (Jan 1)

[quote]" I never saw him. I fell asleep in my car and I never saw him that night. The police know everything. That’s the most important thing.”

Note "the police know everything." Whatever explanation he gave the police must have checked out, but nothing is known about that

by Anonymousreply 92June 26, 2018 2:16 PM

Thank you.

That's still so bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 93June 26, 2018 2:18 PM

R91 Fadi said: "I fell asleep in the car." That means he didn't intentionally sleep in the car. Note the difference?

by Anonymousreply 94June 26, 2018 6:07 PM

What else did you expect him to say? If George tried to commit suicide in the past Fadi had lots of time to plan his moves for if and when the time came if George was successful or natural causes was the cause of his demise. I wouldn’t trust Fadi as far as I could throw him. He knew if he stuck around he just might hit the jackpot.

by Anonymousreply 95June 26, 2018 6:56 PM

R95 You don’t have to trust him, but whatever his explanation to the police, it was accepted.

Nothing changes the fact that he knows what happened to GM and may be only one of the very few who knows, while we go on and on going in circles speculating

by Anonymousreply 96June 26, 2018 6:59 PM

He lied it's obvious

by Anonymousreply 97June 26, 2018 8:23 PM

R97 LOL really? Tell that to the police. Better yet, change the police since you know something they weren't able to find out.

by Anonymousreply 98June 26, 2018 8:29 PM

It ain’t over til the fat lady sings. Fadi just might get caught.

by Anonymousreply 99June 26, 2018 9:20 PM

R99 Good luck with your waiting!

by Anonymousreply 100June 26, 2018 10:18 PM

All that bullshit above and no one read the message from his family.

by Anonymousreply 101June 26, 2018 11:27 PM

R101 - I did. I posted it yesterday in the GM general discussion thread.

Sad how the "lovelies" did not respect the family's wishes as stated in their last post. These disrespectful clowns did the exact opposite and left all their "tribute" shit behind as is their MO. Was glad to see the family wasted no time clearing and throwing all the crap they left behind away.

Today they are on Twitter excusing their behavior. "I just HAD to!" "It was his BIRTHDAY after all!" , all the while hashtagging about respect. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 102June 27, 2018 12:44 AM

Someone put in the Lovelies page that tributes, at least flowers, were fine by the family but they would be discarded if left behind. Nu had communicated this and apparently she showed up for the festivities.

by Anonymousreply 103June 27, 2018 12:50 AM

Where is the lovelies page?

by Anonymousreply 104June 27, 2018 1:00 AM

R104 A facebook group but I couldn't tell you which one. It has Lovelies something in the title.

by Anonymousreply 105June 27, 2018 1:05 AM

Some Lovelies cried because there were no flowers, candles or anything in the Highgate cemetery grave

by Anonymousreply 106June 27, 2018 1:57 AM

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by Anonymousreply 107June 27, 2018 2:16 AM

The web site was blank.

by Anonymousreply 108June 27, 2018 2:47 AM

The first link was Daily Fail. You could try a search on their site. Seems to be problems linking there.

Here's another from The Sun. Same story. It was everywhere after last year's shitshow.

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by Anonymousreply 109June 27, 2018 3:08 AM

[109] Thank you

by Anonymousreply 110June 27, 2018 3:33 AM

Nu's brother Ian Findlay and Nu's nemesis Paul James and Sharon whatever are still at it on Facebook. Interesting tidbit from their catfight is that Andros is supposed to hate Nu and Nu was supposed to be sacked by GM. Previously it was claimed that Melanie hated Nu and wanted Nu sacked but GM just reduced her hours instead

Another interesting tidbit: both camps (Ian Findlay and Paul James) reached out to Fadi last year for help. Fadi ignored both of them

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by Anonymousreply 111June 27, 2018 12:14 PM

R111 Thank you for posting this! This is better than any reality TV show!

by Anonymousreply 112June 27, 2018 1:21 PM

Not really.

by Anonymousreply 113June 27, 2018 11:14 PM

How did Fadi’s day in court go?

by Anonymousreply 114June 27, 2018 11:36 PM

R114 One would think that had things gone his way, he would have been tweeting all about it in his usual cryptic and unintelligible fashion, but all is silent. Can anyone confirm there was, indeed, a court hearing? I’m surprised one or more of the tabloids isn’t all over this…

by Anonymousreply 115June 28, 2018 1:38 AM

There’s no court hearing. Fadi posted he did not tweet it

by Anonymousreply 116June 28, 2018 2:00 AM

Another day, another claim of a hacked account. Snore...

by Anonymousreply 117June 28, 2018 3:18 AM

He also pinned one of his “hacked” tweets from a few weeks back asking the media to contact him to learn the full story about George. He lives for agitating people (in this case the family).

by Anonymousreply 118June 28, 2018 9:24 AM

Truly it is time for Fadi and Kenny to walk away from tormenting George’s family. Sure the family has enjoyed the financial gain from George’s fame. As much as they gain they also lost. In the beginning of George’s career his family attended his concerts in some way or another. Either working for him or simply to experience the concert. They were with him in China, California at his home, attended concerts, award shows, celebrated quite a few birthdays on and off stage and attended his birthday parties including his 30th Birthday bash. They may have had their differences but they were a close family. It’s time to let George finally Rest In Peace.

by Anonymousreply 119June 28, 2018 12:11 PM

R119 In what way do you see Kenny and Fadi tormenting George's family? Don't say by posting on social. As if this ever touched them remotely. It's rather the obsessive fans, who should finally walk away from tormenting them with their sense of entitlement to tributes, statues, concerts etc. and stalking the Highgate house and Mill Cottage constantly. Their constant presence must be most irritating and annoying.

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by Anonymousreply 121June 28, 2018 8:41 PM

Fuck off Fadi the Liar

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by Anonymousreply 122June 28, 2018 8:50 PM

Oh dear Fadi even makes Mr. Rodgers mad.

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by Anonymousreply 123June 28, 2018 9:12 PM

He needs to easy off the Botox.

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by Anonymousreply 124June 28, 2018 11:59 PM

R120 I agree with you that many fans are out of line, but if the two ex-so-called “boyfriends” are retaining lawyers and making claims against the estate, this could tie up probate for years. I’m sure the family are devastated as it is so to deal with these leeches would be almost unbearable and an incredible emotional strain. It would be tantamount to never-ending torment and a reminder that his partners were nothing more than gold-diggers. That alone would perpetuate their grief.

by Anonymousreply 125June 29, 2018 12:24 AM

R122 This Fadi guy is totally weird. He keeps saying he is getting hacked. Let us assume that every time he changes his password, somebody is hacking into his account. Highly unlikely, but even if it is, why would you not delete the tweets the hacker is posting. He leaves the tweets there and keeps saying I am hacked

by Anonymousreply 126June 29, 2018 4:46 AM

Fadi Fawaz is trying to stay relevant.

by Anonymousreply 127June 29, 2018 11:59 AM

Did that tonia kats crap up the highgate property again with more trinkets, trash and purple candles? Please tell me she took it down again.

by Anonymousreply 128June 30, 2018 1:26 AM

R128 ToniaKats is the High Priestess of Highgate running the show there. She put up her rubbish in the former memorial garden and said they were allowed to do it for a few days. The other groups went to Goring led by that blue plaque leader Terry Daniels and created quite a scene there

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by Anonymousreply 129June 30, 2018 5:04 AM

Harry and Angelina will go public very soon.

Brad has resigned himself to her affair with Styles but is still hoping for a reconciliation.

by Anonymousreply 130June 30, 2018 3:45 PM

R130 Welcome back spazz troll

by Anonymousreply 131June 30, 2018 7:34 PM

I’m confused which doesn’t take much. Harry, Angelina and Brad who?

by Anonymousreply 132June 30, 2018 8:00 PM

Lovelies going apeshit crazy against Tonia and Alex. They were not allowed to leave tributes in Highgate, but Tonia did and was allowed. She had the blessings of Alex!

Now fans are ripping Alex to shreds for defending Tonia.

One tweet said

[quote]@david__austin @GeorgeMOfficial I think you should be made aware of this. @AlexTiger888 is disgusting - slagging fans off on his facebook page. I think it's about time George's family knew what he was up to with his nasty behaviour!!! Please RT!

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by Anonymousreply 133July 1, 2018 11:28 AM

apeshit?

by Anonymousreply 134July 1, 2018 9:20 PM

R133 Alex doesn’t even live there anymore. He was barely coherent when he did. The former dog walker has no say in who is allowed to do what the family said NOT to do.

And that Tonia frau sounds like a bully and is likely one of the ones the family referred to in their last post as “profiting off of George’s talents”. Still waiting to see her registered charity number. And what percentage of proceeds are actually going to charity vs her pocket. She’s making a living off of being Chief Frau and that s why she is being so aggressive and was so pissed that garden went away. Totally disrespectful of the family ‘s wishes and by extension her supposed idol. But it’s not about him anymore is it.

by Anonymousreply 135July 2, 2018 3:10 AM

Too bad fadi and whoever else is causing the family such legal woes is taking so much energy. That tonia woman would otherwise have been shut down by the legal team by now. Hopefully they get to her eventually.

by Anonymousreply 136July 2, 2018 3:13 AM

I know I will be yelled at by posters for asking this questions and somebody will say read all the previous threads if you want to know. But as a person outside the UK who does not understand the legal process there I am asking this. So somebody who has the knowledge please let ignorant people like me know how it works

Has GMs will been read and who would know what it contained? How would Fadi or Kenny know that they were not in the will unless he was told so if that is the case? Would everybody who is in the will have been informed by now what they were left? There was an article saying Roman Kemp still does not know what was left for him recently. Just who would know all the info in the will other than the lawyers and the sisters and would others have been informed about it? Is there a process for this, time-limit etc?

if as tabloid stories say Fadi is contesting the will how is it possible to do it without there being a case filed or something going on in the public domain? Is this done privately between lawyers? Fadi is asking lawyers to contact him on twitter to help him with the airline case. How come he has lawyers for this and wont it be expensive?

How long do these legal cases take. It has been a good 18 months without there seeming to be a resolution. Legal eagles who know UK law enlighten the uninformed if possible

by Anonymousreply 137July 2, 2018 4:30 AM

He Made a claim from the estate that includes money and the regent park townhouse he is squatting in. This all would have started likely by him refusing to leave early on and asking for money. If he is suing the estate it can’t go to probate until it is settled as it would mean the amount every one else gets changes if he is successful in claiming he was a dependent. (An article about this has been posted many times and you will have to look that up on earlier threads or google). Since it’s not in probate, other greedy monsters don’t know what or if they are getting. Shame on Martin kemp to talk about it.

He’s suing an airline known for great service for bad service. Lots of lawyers in both of these situations would either have an arrangement to get paid out when he does or make the estate pay his fees. I’m not sure he’s actually suing the airline though. Just bitching about it.

Please don’t rehash this though. It’s an exhausting repetitive conversation for everyone else. It is in part 14 and you will have to scroll there if you want the exact details.

by Anonymousreply 138July 2, 2018 10:52 AM

^o don’t mean the estate would pay for airline suing fees. Those are just possibilities for each scenario.

by Anonymousreply 139July 2, 2018 10:57 AM

The Etihad thing was nothing more than regular delays and travel crap that happens to everyone.

Princess just got a little too used to flying private.

by Anonymousreply 140July 2, 2018 11:00 AM

R140 Nah ... He was pissed because he missed an important meeting

by Anonymousreply 141July 2, 2018 11:03 AM

R135 So where is Alex living now? Good to see he’s finally out of Highgate. Abbey is dead and fans are realizing he’s not in the inner circle. Plus his defense of Tonia’s megalomania has thrown the fans off

by Anonymousreply 142July 2, 2018 11:09 AM

^Alex is very much at Highgate. Looks at some of the pics the Lovelies are posting with him recently

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by Anonymousreply 143July 2, 2018 12:18 PM

Unbelievable how George Michael’s fans act regarding Alex. Don’t they realize George is gone and Alex, Fadi or Kenny are just people trying to stay relevant. I was a big fan of George Michael’s and still am, however, I’m not crazy. They need to disappear as well as the 3 mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 144July 2, 2018 12:47 PM

He moved out a few weeks ago. Regardless of what pictures show him hanging around outside. Those lovelies are his only social network

by Anonymousreply 145July 2, 2018 1:04 PM

R143 He does not live in Highgate but he comes to Highgate. He said so to many fans. It’s the “open secret” among fans who met with him last week.

And did you read that thread with Keren Hal on Twitter. She told Alex

[quote]Don’t forget the deal we made

So is Alex making deals with other fans now? What deal is it — access to Highgate, private tours, pictures of GM, or secret info?

by Anonymousreply 146July 2, 2018 1:08 PM

Agree r144 Unfortunately these threads seem to be more and more just some of them posting now. I remember when this thread could be funny and witty and there was lots of knowledge about GM and fadi from earlier days vs only Facebook feuds and Alex.

by Anonymousreply 147July 2, 2018 1:08 PM

R147 Because the posters nowadays drive away posters with real info. In the last thread someone with real deep inside info was accused as writing fan fiction

by Anonymousreply 148July 2, 2018 1:13 PM

R143 fan sees pic of Alex outside in highgate. Fan therefore determines Alex lives in house weeks after he moved out. It’s the logic defying reasoning that has always thrown me off with some of the lovelies

by Anonymousreply 149July 2, 2018 1:14 PM

Nice Mercedes parked in the highgate spot in the background of that fan pic in r143. Wonder who’s driving that.

I scrolled down a bit in that twitter thread. I feel like whenever I do something like that with links from here some lovely is trying to draw David Austin out by tweeting random trivia questions to him. David hasn’t been active on twitter since before George’s funeral. Some are such desperate fans. I wonder if David still lives at highgate. The difference between him and Alex is he doesn’t seek attention from the more militant lovelies.

by Anonymousreply 150July 2, 2018 1:31 PM

R146 probably she just implored him to call her when he wants someone to talk to or something cheesy. That was these women want - social connections and to feel like they are on the inside of something. It’s not access to highgate if he doesn’t live there himself now. He’s on the outside now. Not any inner circle. This is just a militant fan trying to get close to someone who is a celebrity in her mind.

Man he looks to be in poor health. Or just really stoned.

I know George was gracious to his fan base and appreciated them from the standpoint of what it gave him, but I’ve always sort of wondered as a gay man would it have been extra off-putting and a bit gross for him with the ones who threw themselves at him so much and totally didn’t get that he was gay. The ones who were so over the top.

by Anonymousreply 151July 2, 2018 1:39 PM

David was a friend of George’s for years. He doesn’t need to stay relevant by desperate measures as do the want-a-be’s. Apparently David is still very much a part of the family. I wish the legalities would settle once and for all. I would love to have the opportunity to hear George’s unheard music if such exists.

by Anonymousreply 152July 2, 2018 2:31 PM

R152 People who have heard it says it is really good. Hopefully, they'll release it soon.

by Anonymousreply 153July 2, 2018 2:39 PM

[151] I think the lovelies realize George was gay. Frankly they really don’t care. In their eyes they see George Michael in the Faith video and his Wham! days. One good looking self-assured guy oozing with sex appeal. Had George not been one gifted musician and just your average guy he probably would have avoided much of his struggle with his sexuality identity. He was frequenting the gay clubs in his teens. He might have found happiness but I don’t it since he wanted to be loved and a star. Being a star might have been more rewarding without all the screaming little girls.

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by Anonymousreply 155July 5, 2018 1:09 AM

Is it just me or does Fadi always looks sloppy and dirty.

by Anonymousreply 156July 5, 2018 2:29 AM

^Maybe a deliberate look to portray the grieving widower? There is something very phony about this guy.

by Anonymousreply 157July 5, 2018 3:10 AM

Is that tabloid hyperbole or is he smoking something suspicious?

by Anonymousreply 158July 5, 2018 3:13 AM

He can't afford milk. Do you expect him to have new shoes?

by Anonymousreply 159July 5, 2018 3:15 AM

Fadi always looks unkept even while out with George. He sometimes look like he did not take a shower. He is the definition of a typical slacker and grifter. I don't understand why some celebs prefer people who do not have their shits together, I guess they see something about themselves in those people. Besides those kind of people are easier to control.

by Anonymousreply 160July 5, 2018 1:44 PM

R160 I have met Fadi in Symphonica tour several times and he always smelled so delicious — even in jeans and rugged clothes. Don’t judge a person from the images you see in the photos

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by Anonymousreply 162July 5, 2018 4:33 PM

R162 can’t you be bothered to scroll a bit to see R155 already posted the same thing? And you have no brain popping commentary to make your redundant post have a little value

by Anonymousreply 163July 5, 2018 4:49 PM

“So much interest” - same 3 people posting over and over

by Anonymousreply 164July 5, 2018 5:32 PM

R161 - why shouldn’t we judge by pictures. That’s how he looks.

by Anonymousreply 165July 5, 2018 7:33 PM

Any other recent photos of Fadi?

He’s Very handsome!

by Anonymousreply 166July 5, 2018 7:39 PM

I imagine him smelling like cigarettes and dandruff.

by Anonymousreply 167July 5, 2018 8:17 PM

What a sad and unhinged life you live looking at everything so negatively.

by Anonymousreply 168July 5, 2018 8:19 PM

166 and 168 might be the same person. We know you are a Fadi fangurl just for the fact that you hillariously stated he is handsome. Just because he smelled good at an important public event does not mean he smells good when he is out and about. From my experience most recreational drug users don't tend to smell good most times, they tend to have b.o problems.

by Anonymousreply 169July 6, 2018 3:34 PM

R169 I did not know George, who was a heavy drug user, had body odor problems

by Anonymousreply 170July 6, 2018 4:07 PM

I don’t care how FF smells. I don’t find him attractive.

by Anonymousreply 171July 6, 2018 4:41 PM

Can we pls get off the topic of how Fadi smells? Ugh

by Anonymousreply 172July 6, 2018 4:51 PM

An old forum person once reported they had a pic taken with George at highgate and he smelled of cigarettes and sweat. Not BO specifically- but cigarettes and sweat lol.

by Anonymousreply 173July 7, 2018 10:08 AM

So we go from how Fadi smelled to the way George smelled. Really? How pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 174July 7, 2018 11:44 AM

It’s a thread. You apparently really don’t get it. You can change the topic if you wish. What’s your contribution other than to complain, oh high and mighty one?

by Anonymousreply 175July 7, 2018 12:46 PM

It is known that if you smoke you will smell like cigarette.

by Anonymousreply 176July 7, 2018 2:45 PM

R174 always writes stuff like that and even upthread said

“I enjoyed George Michael’s music and still do. His personal life doesn’t concern me. If anyone wants to discuss his music or his career I am all for it. I’m not interested in in private life.“

Yet continues to post about George and fadi’s personal life on here all the time.

by Anonymousreply 177July 7, 2018 7:36 PM

[177] It sounds to me that you would enjoy George Michael General Discussion thread much more so than FF’s thread.

by Anonymousreply 178July 7, 2018 9:04 PM

R178 Sounds like you’re more than a little inconsistent and unhinged. Don’t project onto others.

by Anonymousreply 179July 8, 2018 2:30 AM

Does anyone know what is happening with the estate? Probate? Is Fadi still in the Regent Park House and if so why? I can't believe this freeloader hasn't been kicked out. Some enterprising journalist must have a bit of info...

by Anonymousreply 180July 8, 2018 6:56 PM

[180] I wondered the same thing. FF has been quiet as of late.

by Anonymousreply 181July 8, 2018 10:44 PM

He is active on Insta and Facebook

by Anonymousreply 182July 8, 2018 11:10 PM

Just how long does this process take even if Fadi is contesting the will? 18 months and counting. Seems an awfully long time without any resolution. How do these things work in the UK in terms of timeframe?

by Anonymousreply 183July 8, 2018 11:53 PM

Kenny Goss is also involved.

by Anonymousreply 184July 9, 2018 3:13 AM

Kenny Gross

by Anonymousreply 185July 9, 2018 1:55 PM

George Michael's cousin slams lover Goss

Contactmusic.com, 20 December 2004

GEORGE MICHAEL's cousin has hit out at the singer's relationship with boyfriend KENNY GOSS, dubbing the Texan a liar. ANDROS GEORGIO is astounded by Goss' claims he had never heard of Michael before they dated, and insists the former WHAM! star was far happier with ex-lover ANSELMO FELEPPA, who died of AIDS eleven years ago. Georgio says, "He's a gay man from Texas, where George played a 100,000-capacity stadium for three nights in a row. You've got to be deaf, dumb and blind not to have heard of George. "It was so ridiculous but George thought it was really cute he had never heard of him. "Life would have been very different with Anselmo."

by Anonymousreply 186July 9, 2018 9:31 PM

Dexter Ingram on Instagram AKA Fadi Fawaz: "George was a slut." Under Fadi Fawaz post share of My Mother Had A Brother.

by Anonymousreply 187July 10, 2018 6:28 AM

LOL Dexter Ingram is not Fadi Fawaz

by Anonymousreply 188July 10, 2018 9:56 AM

Dexter just wants to be fucked by Fadi

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by Anonymousreply 189July 10, 2018 11:29 AM

Who the hell is Dexter whatshisname?

by Anonymousreply 190July 10, 2018 11:30 AM

R190 Nobody; just a random gay dude on Twitter

by Anonymousreply 191July 10, 2018 12:19 PM

R190 Some people in this forum have been hanging on to the idea of Fadi having multiple fake accounts on social media for the purpose of terrorising GM fans all day long. Dexter Ingram being one of them. LOL. "Lovelies" have been taking themselves far too serious.

by Anonymousreply 192July 10, 2018 4:46 PM

Fadi has no need for the lovelies. He doesn't need to be liked by the lovelies. Unlike Kenny with the Goss Michael Foundation, who will forever be nice and court the lovelies to help keep his foundation alive.

by Anonymousreply 193July 10, 2018 6:47 PM

WTF does Fadi mean in his latest tweet? Is he alluding to the child abuse that George is supposed to have experienced?

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by Anonymousreply 194July 11, 2018 1:02 PM

Why do some of you give fadi so much attention by reposting his tweets. I never visited fadi Twitter page but I know what insane tweets he posted just by visiting this thread.

by Anonymousreply 195July 11, 2018 1:20 PM

For being a nobody FF gets way too much attention. Lovelies lay off.

by Anonymousreply 196July 11, 2018 1:24 PM

R195 and R196 Touche! For someone who claims not to be interested in Fadi, might I remind you that you are visiting a FADI FAWAZ thread, which for all the disinterest out there for being a nobody, managed to have a Part 15 thread

by Anonymousreply 197July 11, 2018 2:18 PM

elaine handley ‏ @elainehandley13 Replying to @fadifawaz

[quote]Is he referring to GM s dad abusing him (not necessarily sexually ) but by not believing in him, insulting him hitting him or Melanie who we know there were issues with , and the fall out from that , promoted by last nights 24 hours in police custody episode ???!!!

What is the issue between George and Melanie? I have heard this but wasn't quite sure. Did they have a fall out and did not speak to each other for months(?) or years(?)

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by Anonymousreply 198July 11, 2018 7:06 PM

Th8is man I messing with the Lovelies "so call fans" always retwitter Fadi. Only to become upset over what Fadi writes and later claims to have been hack. The Lovelies then become upset and began to engage in Twitter beefs with Fadi fans. This is such a strange merry go round where you have the Fadi fans, Kenny fans and the garden stans all arguing with each other all in the name of George. The truth is George is a guess star in this saga and is being drag in the mud with the others. George true fans choose the remember him how "HE" wanted to be remember for the music. Because if the man was living or in a coma non of these people would be opening their pie hole up.

by Anonymousreply 199July 12, 2018 1:57 AM

Were issues between George and Melanie or Melanie and her father? What is 24 hours in police custody episode?

by Anonymousreply 200July 12, 2018 2:49 AM

R200 "24 hours in police custody" is a Channel 4 TV programme in the UK.

by Anonymousreply 201July 12, 2018 3:32 AM

[R201] Thank you

by Anonymousreply 202July 12, 2018 4:49 AM

That tweet I think is in reference to a recent "24 hours in police custody" episode which was about paedophiles. He deliberately puts these cryptic tweets to get attention and to set off these fans. These idiots fall for it everytime and bring in George. his Dad, Melanie and everybody into it. Next time if he tweets like this, if everybody ignored him, then eventually he will stop

by Anonymousreply 203July 12, 2018 5:52 AM

Fadi guy is a complete jerk and a piece of work. He is nothing if not for his association with George. He needs to be kicked to the kerb and left there. I hope the family gives him the money the sponger wants and slaps the door shut on his face.

by Anonymousreply 204July 12, 2018 6:15 AM

I hope both of these loser get what they deserve in the end

by Anonymousreply 205July 12, 2018 6:22 AM

Karma has a way of catching up with the gold diggers. Hope it finds them.

by Anonymousreply 206July 12, 2018 11:39 AM

LOL at these fraus wishing karma. A year from now, you will still have a shitty life, while Kenny is still hobnobbing with celebs trying to raise funds for his charity while Fadi will still be in Regent's Park. And Fadi Fawaz saga will be in part 30

by Anonymousreply 207July 12, 2018 12:17 PM

[207] Oh God I hope not. FF& KG need to count their blessings and move on. They lived the lives of the rich and famous thanks to GM, however, those days are over. MOVE ON BOYS! In all seriousness settle the estate. Just maybe the family will release some new George Michael music.

by Anonymousreply 208July 12, 2018 1:01 PM

R207 unlike the guy living in Regent's Park and the so-called art collector who was being sponsored by boyfriend and then ex-boyfriend in the millions, the rest of us will live our lives working for what we have and it with self-respect. we are not gigolos latching on to rich, vulnerable people to make a living. So sod off

by Anonymousreply 209July 12, 2018 8:10 PM

R209 Go back to your Facebook group, you deluded lovely and just post photos of your idol as you cry your heart out

by Anonymousreply 210July 13, 2018 1:14 AM

At least we know poster 210 is not a GM fan.

by Anonymousreply 211July 13, 2018 12:26 PM

Fadi Fawaz @fadifawaz Verified account

Cheap ikon .

6:39 PM - 13 Jul 2018

by Anonymousreply 212July 13, 2018 9:05 PM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account @fadifawaz 7 hours ago

I guess when u cheap you always remain cheap.

by Anonymousreply 213July 13, 2018 9:06 PM

Fadi Fawaz ‏ One of my fav song. George Michael - My Mother Had A Brother

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by Anonymousreply 214July 13, 2018 9:07 PM

Just to make one thing clear: Fadi lives in the Regent's Park property, because the real GM family asked him to stay. They have no intention whatsoever to evict him.

by Anonymousreply 215July 14, 2018 8:24 AM

215. How do you know that. I guess you are one of those Fadi fangurls pulling bullshit out of your ass. If they are so accepting of him he won't be having twitter tantrums.

by Anonymousreply 216July 14, 2018 2:36 PM

[R215] Is Kenny the only one pursuing George’s family and the estate?

by Anonymousreply 217July 14, 2018 6:55 PM

R217 No, Alex Georgiou is also challenging GM's will.

by Anonymousreply 218July 15, 2018 8:26 AM

R215 / R218 just trying to stir up a dead thread. Total fiction.

by Anonymousreply 219July 15, 2018 11:04 PM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account

Jul 14

Fucked up ikon

by Anonymousreply 220July 15, 2018 11:25 PM

3 years ago coming back to London after visiting George in Zurich. Time flys ❤️

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by Anonymousreply 221July 15, 2018 11:25 PM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account

Jul 14

Apparently there are more nasty tweets on my account I’ve given up caring so they can say whatever they want really there is nothing I can do and it is what it is. Fadi

by Anonymousreply 222July 15, 2018 11:26 PM

R219 That’s what you say

by Anonymousreply 223July 16, 2018 2:06 PM

If FF and his peeps want to make postings they really should learn proper grammar and English.

by Anonymousreply 224July 16, 2018 3:27 PM

When George was the Godfather to Andros son George had stated he loved kids and thought he would be a father. Of course, this is prior to GM coming out as a gay man. GM really enjoyed children. I have seen clippings of videos of GM when he was younger interacting with children. He loved Christmas time and buying for children.

by Anonymousreply 225July 17, 2018 2:41 PM

[225] Wrong thread

by Anonymousreply 226July 17, 2018 2:42 PM

R225 the straight washing project of GM is going on in full swing on that other thread. pls go there. A man says he is gay and lives his life as a gay man. Delusional loonie women then try to build this fantasy that he had a 20 yr love affair with a woman who had his son. Why the hell would he have to hide it anyway? Maybe he got himself arrested in a LA restroom and got outed in 1998 to keep his love affair with a woman secret? Height of craziness

by Anonymousreply 227July 17, 2018 7:26 PM

R227 Well closeted gay celebs do the opposite look at Hugh Grant and his bearding stunts incl. his bs arrest stunt with 2 women

by Anonymousreply 228July 19, 2018 12:10 AM

R228 Nah, you're just insane.

by Anonymousreply 229July 19, 2018 7:30 PM

If George Michael was straight I’m as bent as the lamppost outside on my street 🤣

by Anonymousreply 230July 19, 2018 10:02 PM

If he had married a woman and returned to closet few years after his arrest and claimed to be bisexual his career would've survived

by Anonymousreply 231July 19, 2018 11:40 PM

R230 What is so funny? In non of these threads no one claimed George was straight some people suggested he was bisexual

by Anonymousreply 232July 19, 2018 11:42 PM

George himself was responsible for the path his career took. Gay, bi or straight wouldn’t have matter. His fans didn’t care.

by Anonymousreply 233July 19, 2018 11:52 PM

Except for the loonie b*tches hell bent on propagating this story of him having this secret love and son hidden away for 20 yrs.

by Anonymousreply 234July 20, 2018 2:03 AM

If he had died in closet like every gay in the industry it would be better for his sales, fanbase, his image and his career

by Anonymousreply 235July 20, 2018 7:13 PM

R233 Gay, bi or straight wouldn’t have matter

Delusional

by Anonymousreply 236July 20, 2018 7:14 PM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account

17h ago

Who ever planed this joke game if you not dead I wish you would kill yourself too coz you are just as fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 237July 20, 2018 7:27 PM

Fadi

I wish you would lose you kids and loved one in the most horrible nasty way from the bottom of my heart. You are nasty piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 238July 20, 2018 7:27 PM

Fadi

I do know my profile is not public and none of my tweets are going anywhere but I don’t think my twitter account will be hacked for ever

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by Anonymousreply 240July 21, 2018 3:19 AM

That’s old news. Tell us something we don’t know excluding the bum.

by Anonymousreply 241July 21, 2018 3:30 AM

Here are some things that make the above story and fadi so gruesome to me....

1) he apparently then dies on Christmas Eve and had been dead for 24 hours when fadi went I. The house at noon. But there are paparazzi pics of fadi getting coffee for himself in the afternoon of the 24th and going back into mill cottage. Then he supposedly slept in the car. So essentially fadi didn’t help George. He either agreed to let him go through with killing himself or just didn’t help him. I understand that not helping someone in obvious distress is not a crime in the uk like it is elsewhere.

So fadi you vile piece of shit - no wonder the family hates you. No wonder they are fighting you and didn’t let you go to the wake.

By the way fadi - those pics of you in the Sun? You have become one of the ugliest twats around. Karma’s a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 242July 21, 2018 3:42 AM

As a parting gift maybe George wrote a note letting fadi have the regent part place. Family maybe is arguing he was not of sound mind.

by Anonymousreply 243July 21, 2018 3:44 AM

R241 No shitface - it’s not old news. He emailed the sun the info for a payout and it just broke tonight. Now go back under your rock.

by Anonymousreply 244July 21, 2018 3:48 AM

R244 Excuse me but it was on the television a few weeks back.

by Anonymousreply 245July 21, 2018 4:21 AM

No. It was not. You clearly have not read the articles.

by Anonymousreply 246July 21, 2018 4:25 AM

R245 this just came out yesterday in The Sun followed by other tabs. Why dont you just read it?

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by Anonymousreply 247July 21, 2018 4:30 AM

R247 I owe you an apology. Sorry. Do you believe it?

by Anonymousreply 248July 21, 2018 4:36 AM

This is so upsetting. I don't think we will never hear the end of the George Michael story sadly. Does it make any sense to all of you?

If as this story impiles Fadi is saying George died on the afternoon of Dec 24, why the hell was he not found until 24 hrs later. Fadi was pictured walking out of the coffee shop and moping around the village on the afternoon of Dec 24 at Goring. So he did not see or check on GM the whole day and just like that slept in the car that night. Who does that? especially if your partner is suicidal

As he implied in his tweets soon after his death and now again, if George was suicidal why would the family and friends leave him alone on what they know is a very painful day for him on Dec 24. Truly where did they all go?

How did the Coroner's report say it was natural causes?

by Anonymousreply 249July 21, 2018 4:37 AM

R248 owes a few people an apology.

by Anonymousreply 250July 21, 2018 4:42 AM

R249 because fadi was employed to keep an eye on George. He didn’t that’s why they all hate him

. George was estranged from his immediate family (he shut a lot of people out throughout his life - his family still loved him) and relied mostly on David and fadi in the end.

Fadi was a dark influence. He also say a payday in the horizon.

by Anonymousreply 251July 21, 2018 4:47 AM

How was it people said they saw George watching the midnight Christmas Eve Parade to the church if George had died that afternoon? I found it strange that in all the reports never once was time of death mentioned. Is the day of death Dec 24 and not Dec 25 then

by Anonymousreply 252July 21, 2018 4:53 AM

R240 The web site link was on tv in America about a month ago. R247 The article in the Sun and Daily New’s are new.

by Anonymousreply 253July 21, 2018 4:57 AM

The falling out of a car on the m1 takes on a more obvious meaning now doesn’t it.

Attempt #.....?

Likely the same with the 5 hour paramedic visit. As well as a host others that a poster that used to like in highgate mentioned happened and were the talk of the neighborhood.

Poor George. He had depression and anxiety and used all sorts of drugs and risky behaviour to escape it. Lengthy drug use completely alters your brain chemistry and can cause diagnosable mental illnesses and make the ones you already have worse. And George was well known for taking the advice of absolutely no one. He really had no chance. Especially since I’m the end he only allowed sycophants and money hungry whores near him. He really had no chance did he.

by Anonymousreply 254July 21, 2018 4:57 AM

Does anyone know why he was estranged from his family? I thought he was close to his sister That was a hairdresser. Odd his sisters never had children.

by Anonymousreply 255July 21, 2018 5:08 AM

Drug abuse wreaks havoc on family relationships. It’s torture.

by Anonymousreply 256July 21, 2018 5:09 AM

^this. And may I add that I’m not sure about why many think that a 53 year old man should still be thick as thieves with their family of origin. I still love my siblings but we all live our own lives and have for years. Add the strain of a family member with a decades long drug habit who liked to push people away and there you have it.

by Anonymousreply 257July 21, 2018 5:13 AM

Why is it odd that his sisters have no children? Cause they are female they must want babies in their hip? That’s a naive view of the world.

by Anonymousreply 258July 21, 2018 5:15 AM

R255 go back to reading ladies home journal or romance novels. This site is probably a little more than you can handle. The world is not made up solely of happy little nuclear families ffs.

by Anonymousreply 259July 21, 2018 5:18 AM

George seen in a few pics with a sister who toured with wham and who was a hairdresser circa 1986 therefore in 2016 George must still be very close to his hairdresser sister.

by Anonymousreply 260July 21, 2018 5:22 AM

I am sure his family and friends loved him. But who knows how GMs depression and drug use damaged relationships. Sadly George chose this path for himself. Millions might adore you and love you. What is the use. Like he said it is a terrible thing to be surrounded by people but lonely and alone.

by Anonymousreply 261July 21, 2018 5:47 AM

One day GM will rest in peace as well as his family.

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by Anonymousreply 262July 21, 2018 12:55 PM

The saga continues for George’s family.

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by Anonymousreply 263July 21, 2018 12:59 PM

Will Fadi get a check for each publication that prints his story? Financially he must be desperate.

by Anonymousreply 264July 21, 2018 1:12 PM

Fadi stop tarnishing George Michael’s music legacy. Respect his wishes. Remember him for his music catalog not his finances.

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by Anonymousreply 265July 21, 2018 1:20 PM

I think it is time for the family to come out of the shadows and put an end to this. There is a Coroners Report that says it was not suicide. So was he bought off or something.

Fadi did not get his payoff and it is payback time for him. This is going to get nasty. But the family should just be honest. The more they try to hide things and put a lid on it the worse it will get.

by Anonymousreply 266July 21, 2018 2:34 PM

And what kind of a heartless vile leech is this guy who just leaves a fragile person alone on Christmas Eve knowing full well G wasn’t all that well? He knew about his health problems and yes, I know addicts are consumptive and nearly impossible to deal with but Christ, this poor man needed someone around him who was able to offer some solace – not consistently take, take, take… If this piece of shit, who calls himself a “boyfriend,” had an ounce of love or respect for G, he would simply keep his mouth shut. That’s not likely to happen unfortunately since his raison d'être is to get someone to give him more money.

[quote] R242 So essentially fadi didn’t help George.

Exactly and worse, everything FF said is a lie. They obviously weren’t “together 24 hours a day” as he’s fond of pointing out because if that were the case, George would still be with us. And then there’s the whole “sleeping in the car” BS … reprehensible. What a scum-sucking, useless, piece of shit this guy is.

And do most people think this could be true? I – and probably many others – hate to think that G was so despondent he wanted to end his life. That is just too heartbreaking to consider but again, we may never know the truth. I wish the tabloids would stop giving this bloodsucking money hungry whore any credence. The poor family and real friends must be devastated.

by Anonymousreply 267July 21, 2018 3:27 PM

Absolutely despicable for Fadi to now come out with this. All this 24/7 in love thing now has been shown to be completely fake. But time also for family and friends to be a bit honest and not spin stories that GM was happy and content and was working everyday etc. Clearly he was battling huge inner demons from 2013 onwards.

The only person who is believable in this whole saga is Andrew Ridgeley. He was not well from 2013 he said. Why George cut off even friends like this and why did they not break down his door even to see him and help him?

by Anonymousreply 268July 21, 2018 3:50 PM

R266 I agree 100% with you. The family should realize by now the fans loved him regardless. George was a creative genius when it came to songwriting, his vocal abilities, producing and covering other artists songs. George had a great sense of humor. It didn’t matter if he was straight, bisexual or gay his fans didn’t care. He struggled for so long regarding his sexuality mainly because of the era he become a star. He paid a high price throughout his career to try to have a personal life. The media is your friend one day and the next they want to destroy you. The lyrics of White Light was inspired by his illness in late 2011. Really listen to the lyrics. He said “I’m not through I’m alive” and “I have so much more I want to do”. It was released on the radio June of 2012. The song is so full of life not death.

If it is true that he committed suicide on Christmas Eve 2016 there wasn’t anything anyone could really do for him. If it was his fifth time trying he wasn’t going to stop until he succeeded. It is such a sad state of affairs. Supposedly Fadi was paid to keep an eye on George. If he had been with him for 5 years he was definitely aware of George’s mental state. Fadi has proved especially after his last stunt with the media he was and has been thinking of himself only.

Regardless of what the cause of death nothing can bring him back. His family has been through enough over the years. They need to take a stand with Fadi, Kenny and perhaps Alex and settle the estate. They deserve to get on with their lives. I’m sure there were a ton of perks for the family with George’s success but it couldn’t have been easy for them throughout the years either.

The family deserves peace and George deserves to rest in peace.

by Anonymousreply 269July 21, 2018 3:57 PM

White Light by George Michael.

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by Anonymousreply 270July 21, 2018 3:58 PM

The true GM fans do not care how he died, what he died of. NOTHING. Nothing anybody is going to say or write about GM is going to change the affection his fans had for him and his music. So family stop dillydallying and trying to cover up things. Whatever the truth about George's life does not change anything as far as his fans go. Just clear the "debris" away now

by Anonymousreply 271July 21, 2018 5:05 PM

I have always had a feeling that the m1 accident might have been a suicide attempt, and also the multiple ambulance called to his home . He was clearly going through a lot of shits, the drug rehab and health problems. I know the general consensus here is that Fadi can't be trusted to say the truth. This time he might not be lying, even though he is a piece of shit. All we need to do is look at evidence of his later pictures when he gained a lot of weight and looked quiet different from the George with life in his eyes. It seems like his eyes was lifeless and he had already checked out in the last few years of his life. That is my first perception looking at his later pictures from 2015 upwards.

by Anonymousreply 272July 21, 2018 6:10 PM

George Michael’s boyfriend Fadi Fawaz claims star’s death ‘was a suicide’

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by Anonymousreply 273July 21, 2018 6:45 PM

all this hatred may just make me strong enough to walk away

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by Anonymousreply 277July 21, 2018 7:07 PM

I don't believe a single word that comes from this rent boy's mouth

by Anonymousreply 278July 21, 2018 7:08 PM

Melanie is gay

by Anonymousreply 279July 21, 2018 7:23 PM

George Michael general discussion thread II

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by Anonymousreply 281July 21, 2018 8:06 PM

Hard to believe anything he says based on previous comments. We may never know all that went on leading up to his death, not that it's any of our business either really tbh. It was a very sad end for him no matter what caused it

by Anonymousreply 282July 21, 2018 8:49 PM

Every single male I've ever known who claimed to be bi had exclusive relations with other males. They may have had sex with a female once or twice when they were young or drunk, and for that they claimed they were bi. A huge percentage of bi-sexuals are bullshit artists.

by Anonymousreply 283July 21, 2018 9:34 PM

Does it really matter about George’s sexuality. When he was in his teens it wasn’t black or white for him. He tried to live his life privately but the media had other ideas. Evidently as he got older his sexuality wasn’t an issue any longer for him. He was a proud gay man. I’m sure the lovelies still can’t accept that he liked men.

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by Anonymousreply 285July 22, 2018 12:30 AM

Whatever is the truth and logically we should trust the Coroner more than Fadi, it is what it is. Clearly from 2013 onwards it was a huge downward spiral for GM. He tried with the useless rehabs and in 2016 with attempts to go back to work with the Freedom docu and other projects. But it was too late.

Whatever that gene that he got from his mother's side was too strong. Grandfather and uncle committed suicide. Whether he committed suicide or not on Dec 24 2016, he was on a slow road to death at his own hands for many years. It was a slow suicide over many years. for the PR machine to spin it otherwise is useless.

As he shut himself away from the middle of 2013 and did not attend the release of the Symphonica album in 2014 etc the red flags were there. The whole Swiss rehab thing was a disaster and he just did not have people around him to advice him, kick his butt and get him into line. Most of the people around him depended on him and were too weak and scared

by Anonymousreply 286July 22, 2018 1:08 AM

George Michael’s family has to get that scumbag Fadi Fawaz out of George’s residence. He hasn’t accomplished anything worthwhiled by telling his stories to the media. If anything it saddens me for GM ‘s family. They have had to deal with the likes of FF for way too long.

Not sure what FF thought he would accomplish. If anything it really makes FF look worse than he already did. He’s been shoving it down everyone’s throat that he was GM’s lover for 19 months. FF must have thought George made arrangements to take care of him. That would be one reason FF didn’t fight harder for George Michael while he was alive. FF must have been ticked off to find out George didn’t make financial arrangements for him.

by Anonymousreply 287July 22, 2018 1:48 AM

It really doesn’t help anyone when newspapers print this type of article.

These comments are totally unfounded and when the person responsible for making such claims is someone that will do almost anything for money and or attention, questions need to be asked as to why such an article was allowed to be published!

It strikes me that very little thought is given to those that are most effected by these unsubstantiated claims, mostly George’s family and relations.

I will not go into any lengthy detail here to explain how exactly I know this most recent rubbish from Fadi is exactly that, rubbish and totally untrue, simply because I wish to remain private and dignified, and I have nothing to gain from what I write here, neither do I seek any publicity or any financial reward.

But there comes a time when, after reading regular articles, mostly arising from Fadi, giving such ridiculous and totally unfounded accounts, I cannot and will not sit back and say nothing!

George, over many years, had been a heavy smoker, both of regular tobacco products and of other products. George drank quite heavily and regularly. George used a variety of other pharmaceuticals over many years, not all of which were medically prescribed!

His death, unfortunately and very sadly, was due to his body simply giving up! No suicide, nothing untoward, nothing sinister!

I was fortunate enough to have been considered as a friend of George, we knew each other for many years, but never once did I want any part of his, so called, celebrity lifestyle.

I never accepted any money or gifts from George, despite many offers of both from him.

During all this time of knowing George, I never sold any stories, spread any rumours or indeed discussed him with anyone outside of my immediate family, and even then I always told George what I have said and to who.

None of this is because I am a saint or a martyr etc, but down to one very simple thing, I was his friend!

We live in this so called ‘free world’, so everyone is of course entitled to their own opinion, but unless you actually know the person in question, it is always dangerous to make comments or cast aspersions, without being in possession of the truth.

If you enjoy the music and videos that George created, then surely that should be enough?

So much better to remember anyone in a positive way, rather than have your memories tainted by this distasteful rubbish!

Again, please show some respect for George’s family and relatives and stop giving this particular person, Fadi, a platform on which he is being allowed to tarnish this wonderfully gifted and generous individual.

by Anonymousreply 288July 22, 2018 2:38 AM

R288 nothing sinister

Not sure about that now that cunt Fadi says he he covered up a death and George died on the afternoon of Dec 24 and was not found until 24 hrs later

by Anonymousreply 289July 22, 2018 6:28 AM

R288 for fuck sakes you have written half the posts on this thread and if you continue this bullshit I will have you reported so you are permanently blocked as a troll. You don’t get that you are not anonymous. People have called you out before. Consider yourself warmed. If you try to portray yourself as a friend of GM again while having a stream of posts before this throughout asking about all sorts of gossipy dirt you will be permanently blocked.

by Anonymousreply 290July 22, 2018 6:29 AM

The fan fiction assholes like R288 (though it was obvious it was bullshit) have really destroyed this thread series. No isi intellegent discussion anymore.

by Anonymousreply 291July 22, 2018 6:32 AM

Singer’s family slams him!

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by Anonymousreply 292July 22, 2018 11:56 AM

One Ex is running off his mouth and talking crap because he is not getting any money. The other Ex is nearly 60 yrs old and must have a very large budget for Botox and is as FAKE as they come. GM was no saint. But to cope with these 2 guys around you for 13 yrs + 7 yrs , you would need to ingest industrial strength drugs

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by Anonymousreply 293July 23, 2018 6:47 PM

Someone please tell me why the lovelies are so taken with Kenny. If he was so special he would have done more than throw George’s drugs down the toilet. In the 25 Live video Kenny looks totally bored and as if he was doing George a favor being with him at that time. Sorry I don’t get it. Now he thinks he deserves a portion of George’s estate. Seems to me George had his affairs in order and if he wanted those two freeloaders included he would have done so. George apparently has taken care of the people he loves and his charities. Obviously Kenny and Fadi weren’t in either category.

by Anonymousreply 294July 23, 2018 7:01 PM

^The Lovelies are beyond help

by Anonymousreply 295July 24, 2018 12:05 AM

Keny's face OMG LOL he's face is so shiny Shinderella

by Anonymousreply 296July 24, 2018 4:08 AM

It makes me mad. Kenny is claiming against the Estate and stands a good chance of succeeding, Fadi too. How lovelies can not see what slime balls these two are is beyond me. They drained George when he was alive and now trying to drain his Estate too. I wish he'd left the whole fucking lot to charity, his family have already benefited and are comfortable.

by Anonymousreply 297July 24, 2018 6:39 AM

Did you know that some of the lovelies believe that Kenny age natural. When I and other pointed out that was Botox, they became anger and we were fans of Fadi. This cause some problems because I did not care for either man.

by Anonymousreply 298July 24, 2018 6:51 AM

Notice how Kenny's head keeps getting bigger and bigger. There were millions of women and men willing to fall at GMs feet. And he chose these two. Yikes

by Anonymousreply 299July 24, 2018 7:48 AM

Of course Kenny has had botox and probably a face lift and fillers. George once said he hoped he wouldn't resort to botox, but he got rid of his sexy deep line between his eyes whilst with Kenny.

by Anonymousreply 300July 24, 2018 10:54 AM

Fadi and Keiran squabbling on FB. Fadi has lost the legal battle for inheritance looks like and seems inhinged these days unloading on GM himself and the family

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by Anonymousreply 301July 24, 2018 12:21 PM

^unhinged sorry

by Anonymousreply 302July 24, 2018 12:22 PM

The lovelies should tell Kenny to get a job and they will stop supporting him. We know fanatics are not well adjusted people, they are quiet damaged themselves. It is left to the non lovelies who are fans to put Kenny and Fadi in their place. I am referring to the well adjusted ones among us. The problem is that we have lives and not that invested like the stalker and psycho fans.

by Anonymousreply 303July 24, 2018 12:23 PM

George picked those two because they are easy to control but they both became a problem later on. I am sure they became a pain while he was alive and now his family has to deal with his awful decisions in lovers. Grifters are smart even though they go along with been controlled when the person turns on them they turn evil. They are accustomed to certain lifestyle priviledges and will do whatever to maintain it. You have to understand they have no shame and will fight dirty and reveal stuffs about their sponsor to maintain the lifestyle they are accustomed to. So whatever Fadi is saying should not be shocking even if he reveals slightly damaging info about George.

by Anonymousreply 304July 24, 2018 12:40 PM

[R304] I wish I could post this truth on Twitter. Because those lovelies don't want to believe that both Kenny and Fadi are the same.

by Anonymousreply 305July 24, 2018 12:46 PM

R301 I hope you are right. I guess we now know why FF bombarded the media with his so called truth about George Michael. Pay back is a bitch! I thought FF loved and missed George. Well so much for that. Fadi finally showed his true colors. Hopefully Kenny will be in the same boat. I hope he handles rejection better than FF.

by Anonymousreply 306July 24, 2018 12:50 PM

If this is true I hope GM ‘s family finally gets to grieve in private and move on with their lives. I would think they have been to hell and back.

by Anonymousreply 307July 24, 2018 12:55 PM

R301 Unfortunately this Adam bloke only posted a short part of this conversation. I saw the whole one, but I can't post it. It's actually quite interesting what else was said.

by Anonymousreply 308July 24, 2018 7:26 PM

R308 Can you tell us what was posted or on which FB post this convo took place? Very interesting that these 2 guys should be talking to each other like this

by Anonymousreply 309July 24, 2018 9:11 PM

305. You expect the lovelies to understand that Kenny and Fadi are both grifters. You are wasting your time. Those middle-aged women are quiet damaged and are far off mentally to comprehend the meaning of the word. They are hanging on to those two as a way to get close to George. Any normal fan will move on and not stalk his exes online, but not those lovelies. you can tell by some of their comments in this thread and other GM or Fadi related threads. Those people are really cockoo mentally.

by Anonymousreply 310July 24, 2018 9:13 PM

R301 Do you know the context? I have seen full convo and I have to say it was a clear case of Fadi having been provoked to anger.

He was attacked by Keiran and his friends. If someone insults and degrades you, you will feel angry. Anger is a normal, healthy response to what Keiran and his gang did. Fadi even started out calm after Keiran posted a blistering attack on Fadi based on the Sun article. Keiran and his friends then ganged up on Fadi and went full on ballistic on him with one even saying "Bitch I will fucking slay you." In response, Fadi unleashed his FUs

The most interesting bit? Keiran is extremely salty at Fadi for making George stop cottaging at the Heath. Keiran said it was because of his relationship with Fadi that George decided to stop going to the Heath.

If Fadi was able to rein in George's riskier behavior -- and this was clear evidence of it -- then he had a good influence on George; whereas the porn star gang of Keiran just encouraged GM's bad behaviors.

Get the context and not just the soundbite of someone provoked to anger.

by Anonymousreply 311July 24, 2018 11:10 PM

R311 I imagine that George's health issues in the last four years or so of his life is what ended his regular cruising, not Fadi.

by Anonymousreply 312July 24, 2018 11:31 PM

R312 Not according to Keiran. It's the relationship with Fadi

by Anonymousreply 313July 24, 2018 11:35 PM

I gather from Keiran’s FB page he has been in a loving relationship for some time. His postings are positive. Anything I have seen regarding Fadi are always very negative. I do not know either. However, if Fadi knew George wanted to die and had tried four times and was not successful you would think he would have done everything possible to try to get George the help he needed. If what Fadi is saying lately is true why on earth would he have said he slept in the car Xmas Eve and found him on Christmas Day. Did he think he was going to hit the jackpot or lottery if George was no longer with us? Something is right about anyone of the stories Fadi is selling.

by Anonymousreply 314July 24, 2018 11:46 PM

Keiran and his porn gang were nothing but fucking enablers to GM. He was kicked to the curb when Fadi came on the scene

by Anonymousreply 315July 25, 2018 12:05 AM

Where can the conversation between Keiran and Fadi be found, would like to read it.

by Anonymousreply 316July 25, 2018 12:54 AM

Let's not start giving Fadi credit where he does not deserve it. I refuse to believe Fadi the rentboy has some sort of influence on George. Kieran is probably just stating that because he is jealous of Fadi been the official boyfriend, nothing more. George picked his official boyfriends based on how far he can control them. If George stopped cruising was probably due to his health not because of Fadi. I am sure his relationship with Fadi was very open that he could screw any guy he wanted.

by Anonymousreply 317July 25, 2018 12:55 PM

R317 Between you -- who was not there and who don't know what when on and operating through baseless assumptions and gut feel -- and Keiran who was there and knew what went on, I'd rather believe Keiran. He said it was Fadi that made George stop go to the Heath.

Just go posting in wherever you post, Mary!

by Anonymousreply 318July 25, 2018 1:33 PM

The lovelies did not repost this. I wonder why.

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by Anonymousreply 319July 25, 2018 11:01 PM

R319 Kenny Goss has certainly made a name for himself for being a drunk...

by Anonymousreply 320July 25, 2018 11:17 PM

He has but present himself as the long suffering boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 321July 26, 2018 12:26 AM

We have a Fadi fangurl at 318. You sure seem to be defending keptboy Fadi like no other. His he paying you to stroke his ego. I am sure Fadi could use your support when he sues George family because there is one fangurl who believes he was a great influence on George. Just make sure the check clears when you get your cut from Fadi.

by Anonymousreply 322July 26, 2018 11:30 AM

[R322] How can Fadi pay [R318] . That bitch ain't got no money. Remember he can't afford water yet alone pay someone.

by Anonymousreply 323July 26, 2018 12:41 PM

Someone please tell me FF has been evicted ... R314 [quote]Fadi knew George wanted to die and had tried four times and was not successful you would think he would have done everything possible to try to get George the help he needed. If what Fadi is saying lately is true why on earth would he have said he slept in the car Xmas Eve and found him on Christmas Day.

This pretty much destroys FFs claim "we were so in love and together 24 hours... " And how the hell could you leave someone you loved ALONE on one of the most important and potentially devastating times of the year - Christmas Eve - particularly if you knew they were in a fragile state of mind - not to mention their poor physical health? Where were all of G's other friends and family on that night? Doesn't make sense to me...

by Anonymousreply 324July 26, 2018 8:17 PM

R324 Nope, not evicted.

R323 fake news that Fadi pays people. LOL! Tell Fadi about how nasty he is being described online, and he'll tell you, "Who cares!" Fadi doesn't care what anyone and everyone say about him. He even told his close associates, relatives and friends not to defend him. That's why you no longer see his brothers responding on Twitter. So people saying he pays others to defend him, that's downright crazy.

R322 Read the Keiran-Fadi convo. Keiran is a jealous cunt George did not choose him as the official boyfriend

by Anonymousreply 325July 26, 2018 10:30 PM

Keiran loved George and cared about him unlike Fadi and Kenny Gross

by Anonymousreply 326July 27, 2018 1:27 AM

Queerty is fangril of Fadi Fawaz

Last year, it published a truly tasteless article slut-shaming George Michael’s boyfriend, Fadi Fawaz, for his “secret gay porn past” just weeks after the singer’s untimely death.

lol

by Anonymousreply 327July 27, 2018 1:31 AM

Keiran is a piece of rubbish

by Anonymousreply 328July 27, 2018 1:33 AM

Keiran is hot Fadi is a cunt

by Anonymousreply 329July 27, 2018 1:44 AM

Split personality must save all his abuse for on twitter the goes back to his alter ego by day

by Anonymousreply 330July 27, 2018 1:44 AM

If Fadi doesn’t have money how does he pay for utilities, cell phone and other expenses? What does he do all day long since he doesn’t have a job so th speak?

by Anonymousreply 331July 27, 2018 1:47 AM

ما بعمل بلوك لحدا....أرمي العظام عندما أسمع النباح

by Anonymousreply 332July 27, 2018 1:48 AM

هناك أشخاص يدخلون القلب بدون استئذان بسبب أخلاقهم الراقية.. صباح الخير وجمعة مباركة عليكم .

by Anonymousreply 333July 27, 2018 1:49 AM

Your point?

by Anonymousreply 334July 27, 2018 1:58 AM

R327 Queerty slamming RadarOnline.com for homophobic reporting, and cites Fadi Fawaz in the article

[quote]Last year, it published a truly tasteless article slut-shaming George Michael’s boyfriend, Fadi Fawaz, for his “secret gay porn past” just weeks after the singer’s untimely death.

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by Anonymousreply 335July 27, 2018 1:54 PM

Fadi Fawaz Verified account @fadifawaz - Jul 19

I do know my profile is not public and none of my tweets are going anywhere but I don’t think my twitter account will be hacked for ever

by Anonymousreply 336July 28, 2018 12:44 AM

Fadi Fawaz ‏ What do you do when you are dealing with the nastiest and the lowest creatures of this plant. You don't do anything YET.

You time will come. :)

If there is one thing I have learnt from this experience is that you are next. ❤️

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by Anonymousreply 337July 28, 2018 12:46 AM

القاتل

by Anonymousreply 338July 28, 2018 12:47 AM

R337 Do you mean YOUR TIME WILL COME INSTEAD of you time will come? Inquiring minds want to know.

by Anonymousreply 339July 28, 2018 1:06 AM

It's Fadi's tweets

by Anonymousreply 340July 28, 2018 1:22 AM

[R337] This man really needs to log off social media. I never cared for the man when he was with George. He was just so mysteries individual who look like a cheap version of Patrick Dempsey. However, since G's passing he has become such a bore and messy. Always claiming he has been hack and people are lying on him. If he took page from Iman and keep it classy he would not have these troubles. Just log off and people wont have anything to say.

P.S. I also though that Kenny was a poor man version of Tom Cruise.

by Anonymousreply 341July 28, 2018 4:33 AM

^ I just spit out my coffee. Patrick Dempsey, Tom Cruise????????? LOL!! Irony is GM could have had those guys if you know what I mean

by Anonymousreply 342July 28, 2018 5:14 AM

[R342] Sorry about that, but they kind off favor them. Your right however, it would have been a tug of war. Because GM, TC and PD all have strong personalities and GM would have someone who actually stood up to him.

by Anonymousreply 343July 28, 2018 6:07 AM

R343 A foursome with George Michael, Tom Cruise, and Patrick Dempsey would just be swell. Just swell.

by Anonymousreply 344July 28, 2018 6:30 AM

^Now we are talking.

by Anonymousreply 345July 28, 2018 11:25 AM

The actors/singers/celebs like GM who come out and suffer the consequences, what would they have thought about the guys like Spacey and the rest buried deep in the closet around them at the time. Their thoughts in private about people like that would have been interesting

by Anonymousreply 346July 28, 2018 11:29 AM

Fadi looks like those middleeastern mistaken for been a terrorist in the states. I am sorry to state it but that was my first instinct when I saw his face for the first time. Kenny looks like a boring waspy all American middle-aged male nothing special. The Botox face is ridiculous and he is morphing into a lesbian. It is funny that a middle-aged George was hotter than those two.

by Anonymousreply 347July 28, 2018 3:12 PM

R342 Tammy as a partner is deffo better than Kenny or Fadi he works hard for the money he earns he's independent unlike these two greedy kept boys

by Anonymousreply 348July 28, 2018 3:18 PM

Kenny's done too much botox and plastic surgery that at this point he looks like a butch lesbian

by Anonymousreply 349July 28, 2018 3:20 PM

[R344] Don't forget me.

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by Anonymousreply 350July 28, 2018 5:51 PM

Christ R350 I'm going to faint.... or cum.... whatever happens first. Ahem.

R347 Kenny was pretty cute (short, very nice thick hair) when he was younger and first hooked up with George, but he gained weight towards the end of their relationship and really over did it on the Botox. GM also seemed to start using Botox after he met Kenny, but never the way Kenny over did it. I believe George was definitely the top in that relationship.

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by Anonymousreply 351July 28, 2018 11:24 PM

George Michael left 'nothing to escort Fadi Fawaz in his will'

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by Anonymousreply 352July 29, 2018 12:33 AM

George Michael [bold]left nothing to his lover Fadi Fawaz in his will[/bold] LOL, according to the late music icon's cousin.

Andros Georgiou said the estate has now contacted everyone who is getting a share of the star's fortune.

The singer's money is believed to be going to his sisters, staff and chosen charities, thought to be Childline and the Terrence Higgins Trust.

“People who worked for George and were loyal to him will be getting small amounts," Andros said.

Among the staff is a housekeeper from his home in North London and also one at his home in Goring, Oxfordshire - the home he was found dead in on Christmas Day 2016.

Though the main share will be going to the charities and his sisters Yioda, 58, and Melanie, 56.

[bold]George's ex-boyfriend Kenny Goss, who dated the star from 1996 to 2011, was also reportedly left out of the will.[/bold] LOL

According to The Sun , George's estate wants to sell his properties as well as another one located in Regent's Park, London.

However, ex-lover Fadi is said to still be living there.

Andros said: “Fadi is threatening to go all the way to High Court but I think the estate will have to settle with him.

"He’s been offered £500,000 and I think the estate should pay a couple of million to get rid of him.”

Fadi travelled the world with George after they began a romance? in 2011.

He stuck by the star through a series of health issues, but at the time of 53-year-old George's death from natural causes he had been sleeping in his car, raising speculation they had split up.

At the time of his death, George was believed to be worth about £105million.

by Anonymousreply 353July 29, 2018 12:37 AM

God I hope Fadi will disappear into the sunset to never be heard from again.

by Anonymousreply 354July 29, 2018 12:44 AM

[351] I am going stop don't want you fainting. You the only that makes since on this board. Put yeah, I believe George was a top. Because in his 2011 Denmark interview George said "people are more concern with who I put my dick in'.

by Anonymousreply 355July 29, 2018 1:18 AM

R353 they should pay Fadi something to shut his mouth and send him on his way. I am glad that Kenny guy is not getting anything. He got enough already with GM spending all the money on GMF, the Dallas house etc. Whatever happened to the Kenny is a millionaire by himself fake stories. The million dollar question: how will Kenny doll pay for the Botox and cosmetic surgery bills?

by Anonymousreply 356July 29, 2018 4:05 AM

R355 Thanks for being so considerate haha.

by Anonymousreply 357July 29, 2018 4:49 AM

Fadi Fawaz never disappoints with the exception of Christmas Eve/Christmas Day?

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by Anonymousreply 358July 29, 2018 11:48 PM

GEORGE'S MAN Who is Fadi Fawaz? George Michael’s boyfriend who claims the singer’s death was suicide

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by Anonymousreply 359July 31, 2018 3:44 PM

Curious ... how much does the Sun pay for a story?

by Anonymousreply 360July 31, 2018 3:46 PM

R360 Ask Kenny and Fadi

by Anonymousreply 361July 31, 2018 3:48 PM

R360 Ask Andros or Paul James.

by Anonymousreply 362July 31, 2018 9:02 PM

George Michael: Autopsy

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by Anonymousreply 363July 31, 2018 10:28 PM

Who's Paul James?

by Anonymousreply 364August 1, 2018 12:21 AM

Fadi Fawaz ‏ Verified account

I was informed my emails been hacked so pls if you see any emails from my account any where do inform me asap. Many thanks

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by Anonymousreply 365August 1, 2018 12:46 AM

Is Fadi Fawaz his real name or is Issac Mazur?

by Anonymousreply 366August 2, 2018 5:03 PM

Fadi really was a porn star. Also known as Issac Mazar.

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by Anonymousreply 367August 2, 2018 5:22 PM

I see the family are releasing the secrets that George paid for to go away.

by Anonymousreply 368August 2, 2018 5:54 PM

R367 pls no more porn pics thanks

by Anonymousreply 369August 2, 2018 6:09 PM

R368 Where are you seeing the family release any secrets?

by Anonymousreply 370August 2, 2018 8:56 PM

Why would George try to cover up FF’s past? Doesn’t make much sense with George’s own history. By the way every family has their secrets.

by Anonymousreply 371August 2, 2018 11:21 PM

George Michael-inspired movie coming

Screenplay co-written by Emma Thompson, due to be directed by Paul Feig, was developed with the Wham! singer before his death

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by Anonymousreply 372August 2, 2018 11:40 PM

What is going on with this guy Fadi? Makes all these weird posts on Social Media. He really needs to get a life

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by Anonymousreply 373August 4, 2018 4:52 AM

I'm still hacked

by Anonymousreply 374August 4, 2018 5:54 AM

I am the hacker's ghost :-)

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by Anonymousreply 375August 4, 2018 1:28 PM

Fadi Fawaz is one very unstable man. Little crazy if you ask me.

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by Anonymousreply 376August 4, 2018 2:05 PM

GMs family gave Fadi a very long rope to hang himself with in the last 18 months. The fool has done exactly that. The rants and the meltdown was what they patiently waited for. Here it is and whatever little credibility he had is now up in smoke. They will give him some dough and roll him out of the RP House now. Not that he deserved much more. Testament to the messy life George Michael lived. Again very sad for his fans who loved the man weaknesses and all and his music

by Anonymousreply 377August 4, 2018 2:53 PM

R377 I believe you are so right. Give him enough rope and he will hang himself. George Michael’s family has been through enough since December 26, 2016. Fadi truly doesn’t deserve a penny from the estate nor Kenny. Fadi has lived rent free for months. That’s all he deserves. Nothing more.

by Anonymousreply 378August 4, 2018 3:23 PM

The Panayiotou family could have avoided this drama developing right from the start. Unfortunately they are cowards hiding behind "privacy". They could have sorted things out long ago instead of leaving Fadi living in a limbo for so long. They really can't be as loving and decent as they like to be perceived by the public.

by Anonymousreply 379August 4, 2018 4:38 PM

Considering how generous George Michael was with his money it speaks volumes that he left Fadi Fawaz out of his will.

by Anonymousreply 380August 4, 2018 10:00 PM

George Michael‘s paid escort Fadi Fawaz tweeted “George I hate you” in several rambling social media posts.

The tweet came after it was revealed the late superstar left nothing to Fadi in his will.

Moments after his first tweet, he appeared to repeat claims that George had killed himself.

The post read: “How can I be disappointed with someone ended their own life.

“If anyone can do that to themself (sic), they can do worse things to others.”

The rant follows emails seen by The Sun in which Fadi said George killed himself, adding: “It took five attempts.”

Fadi continued his rant with another cryptic post which read: “Your power proved to me you could make a Town not react to loud noise at odd hours.

“Your power proved to me you could turn friends, family and strangers into liars, cowards and very much inhuman and yet this mega power can’t make or keep someone KIND or LOVING.

“And I cannot wait to prove that to you. With all my hate.”

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by Anonymousreply 381August 5, 2018 12:28 AM

Wonder what that thing about a town not reacting to loud sounds at odd hours? Goring? George seemed to be a quiet homebody through the final years when he want in rehab. One big party after the Olympic performance that half of highgate went to anyway. Odd remarks.

by Anonymousreply 382August 5, 2018 1:01 AM

When he “wasn’t “ in rehab.

by Anonymousreply 383August 5, 2018 1:02 AM

Goring people said he kept to himself / was very low key. No one ever really called him out for loud parties. Such a weird thing for him to tweet about.

by Anonymousreply 384August 5, 2018 1:04 AM

Fadi guy has no self-control and he will now wash all the dirty linen in public. The family is probably braced for it. But as he keeps ranting people will pay less and less attention to it. It has no impact. Exactly the effect the family wanted. The loud noise remark is odd and I wonder if it obliquely refers to GMs state of mind and being more than a bit disturbed in the last years

by Anonymousreply 385August 5, 2018 1:50 AM

What a vile creature he is. I really question George’s judgement keeping him around for so long. I get that he might have made a bad choice starting up with him because of his own issues but to keep a person like this around for so long is shocking. Fadi is so dark. Having someone dark like that for a partner when you already have issues with drugs and major depression and anxiety. ...I can’t even imagine. Now tha people have apparently been notified if they are in the will, when does it go to probate or become public record? I’m not familiar with how this works in the uk. Andros said months ago the family was trying to prevent it from going to probate/public. I don’t see why they should be allowed that. I’m reminded of andros’ now ex-wife telling the media about George being in the Swiss rehab. . I recall she said “in the end, there were rent boys” and that the hope was that ‘Fadi would be a saving grace’ to pull George out of his disaster. That was unfortunately not the case.

by Anonymousreply 386August 5, 2018 2:08 AM

Sorry about the lack of paragraphs above. I forgot about the double spacing! R386

by Anonymousreply 387August 5, 2018 2:11 AM

Fadi certainly hasn’t handled himself in a very smart responsible manner for someone that was trying to get rich on George Michael’s dime. I guess Fadi Fawaz is as dumb as he looks. Had George wanted to include FF in his will he would have done so after having suffered with pneumonia. The thing is about George’s death it really doesn’t matter if it was by natural causes, heart problems, drugs or a combination of all of them. When your time is up it is no longer in our hands. We are fortunate that he was with us as long as he was. Thanks George.

by Anonymousreply 388August 5, 2018 2:16 AM

R385 You are giving FF too much credit. He might have been cryptic because he is attention seeking but he's not smart enough to come up with the kind of noise metaphor you're talking about. Now that the will information is making the news, more than just George's fans will know what a grifter FF is and he will eventually disappear. I just hope that the family holds out and sticks to GM's will. Maybe this will give them leverage to throw him out of the house. George wouldn't have wanted him there I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 389August 5, 2018 11:59 AM

Why is even still in the house? Is this some sort of squatter’s rights situation? Aren’t there legal steps in the uk to prevent this? The need to evict him now. He’s not in the will. The house was not willed to him. It makes no sense that they still have him living there.

by Anonymousreply 390August 5, 2018 12:43 PM

R385 The loud noise remark has absolutely nothing to do with George, or his family, or his estate.

by Anonymousreply 391August 5, 2018 1:40 PM

R391 then please explain what it is about

by Anonymousreply 392August 5, 2018 3:18 PM

Time to change the Twitter description no:

Fadi FawazVerified account @fadifawaz

I will never stop missing you xxx

London, England

when a tweet say this:

Fadi Fawaz ‏Verified account @fadifawaz Aug 4

George I hate you.

Maybe he should change it to:

I will never stop missing your money xxx

by Anonymousreply 393August 5, 2018 3:23 PM

What a horrific situation in the GM household in the last few years of his life. George with huge mental and addiction issues. Fadi who has shown himself to be a combustible, abusive character with him. Looked like George was quite isolated from family and friends. GM did not stand a chance to recover and comeback. His death was probably a combination of drugs, health issues and just giving up in the end. Again one has to ask whatever the difficulties of dealing with an addict, why did the sisters leave him to his own devices when he so badly needed people to help

by Anonymousreply 394August 5, 2018 3:28 PM

R394 Probably because George wanted it that way. You saw how he responded to Elton. He cut off Andros. Anyone who George felt interloped his narrative got the shaft. Have you never known an alcoholic or an addict? They don't get better until they say they get better. And for George too little too late.

by Anonymousreply 395August 5, 2018 3:51 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 396August 5, 2018 3:51 PM
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by Anonymousreply 397August 5, 2018 3:52 PM

I’m confused. The two above posts were already discussed on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 398August 5, 2018 4:08 PM

[394]. Interesting what Shirley say about George.

Shirley Holliman: "Success changed Andrew first. George stayed away from the hype around him for a long time, while Andrew enjoyed a rich and famous life. He succumbed to temptation, while George was more restrained, he continued to shield himself from all this. Although, George is one of the most secretive people I know, so I'm not sure how he felt most of the time. He is one of those people who have to literally pull something, otherwise he will continue to play a game called "I am all right, I manage." But he is very well versed in the fate of others, always analyzes the actions of people. If he wasn't a musician, he could be a great psychologist. "

by Anonymousreply 399August 5, 2018 6:34 PM

Saw this on LSA about the Fadi subject and it's very actuate.

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by Anonymousreply 400August 5, 2018 7:07 PM

R400 that is so apt. what an immature, horrible human being this Fadi is. grasping for money was his only motive

by Anonymousreply 401August 5, 2018 8:34 PM

Andrew and George wanted two very different things out of life. Andrew wanted to be rich. George wanted to be loved, a star, a solo career and most of all wanted to be remembered for his song writing. Money was never a mayor factor in George’s mind.

by Anonymousreply 402August 5, 2018 8:58 PM

Thanks for the Shirley Holliman quote. I had not read it before. I have however read that he was very astute at watching and reading other people - every tic and tiny expression he would catch.

That skill usually comes from people who have had to grow up around moody, changeable temperaments in their family of origin. Sometimes physically or mentally abusive family members. You learn to watch for the tiny triggers and signs in other people to get a handle on what might be coming next. Anxiety is another byproduct of growing up in that environment. Unfortunately the learned skillet of reading people so well doesn’t lead to making good choices of who you have around you.

Interestingly, one of the sisters went back to school for post graduate work to become a therapist or social worker of some sort. The theee of them are/were probably all like that.

by Anonymousreply 403August 6, 2018 12:21 AM

Skill set obviously. Not skillet lol

by Anonymousreply 404August 6, 2018 12:22 AM

R392 Not spilling, but that "town react to loud noise at odd hours" has nothing to do with George. Reading what he said doesn't make sense, but if you know the backstory it all makes perfect sense.

by Anonymousreply 405August 6, 2018 2:17 AM

R403 Are you referring to GM’s sisters?

by Anonymousreply 406August 6, 2018 2:41 AM

FF’s twitter rants make no sense to me. Fadi talks in riddle.

by Anonymousreply 407August 6, 2018 2:43 AM

R406 no I think r403 is referring to your sisters. Wtf.

by Anonymousreply 408August 6, 2018 3:05 AM

R405 why say anything at all if you are going to talk in riddles like fadi.

And he is clearly referring to George - whether it has any truth to it or not is another thing.

by Anonymousreply 409August 6, 2018 3:14 AM

Don't waste time on interpreting Fadi's tweets his tweets are always meaningless bs they are not coded in any way

by Anonymousreply 410August 6, 2018 3:46 AM

R399 that is a very informative quote from Shirlie. Martin Kemp spoke about how GM was very generous with not just his money but also his time with friends. He would spend hours listening to their problems and help people. He hid his own problems well and he probably thought it was a sign of weakness to ask people for help. Growing up in a home with some strife and darkness between the parents probably contributed to his insecurities and phobias

by Anonymousreply 411August 6, 2018 8:11 AM

R407 R409 R410 Fadi's tweets make a lot of sense, when you know who he is addressing. No, there's no secret code. And no, his tweets aren't messages to the fans, neither to the Panayiotou family. And it's clearly visible which tweets are not from him. This is so obvious, but there's no point in explaining as it's really nobody's business.

by Anonymousreply 412August 6, 2018 12:58 PM

386 the reference to keeping private is filtered via andros and the press adding their spin. If andros was fishing for info he may have been told his estate was to be private and not referring to the will. There is a difference. Years ago George said he was putting everything in trust and giving to charity. He was with Kenny at the time. As well as saving tax trusts are used to control who benefits and to keep the estate private. Wills can be overturned and there may be provision needed to be made for people not considered in a will. If it's all or mostly already been given away to the trust Fadi can only claimagainsts what's left of gM's personal estate which will be much smaller. GM also gave a short Q&A type interview after Vienna and I think before the M1 incident. He said he was single, to question whether he was worth £95m (the sum the press used to quote) he said a fraction of that. Its possible it was never that much but if in trust it would be a fraction of his original wealth. With hindsight I wonder if that article was intended to tell FF not worth hanging around and also to put on record the end of the relationship. Did FF ever live with GM? How did he come to be living in the RP property? May not have been an issue if all safely in trust. My guess is that FF has finally realised his mistake.

by Anonymousreply 413August 6, 2018 1:19 PM

R412 continues to be full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 414August 6, 2018 1:36 PM

Then why post r412. It’s none of your business either. Move along to some fadi fan site with your pretend knowledge.

by Anonymousreply 415August 6, 2018 1:38 PM

R414 and R415 Some people know more than you do. Some people actually know things -- and no, not third-hand account, gut feel, speculation or gossip.

But it is so interesting to read your baseless theories LOL

by Anonymousreply 416August 6, 2018 1:49 PM

R412 If it is so obvious perhaps you should try to explain the point. I was and I still am a George Michael fan. George was incredibly brilliant musically. I hated when George’s name was smeared all over the news due to his personal life. Now that he is no longer with us the media still can’t let the man Rest In Peace.

The only true information a fan would have access to is the information George’s family has carefully been publicly stated.

What is one to think of Fadi Fawaz? Supposedly he was or had been in a relationship with George. Some say he was a porn star. Not so sure Star is the right word but it has been confirmed he has been in porn as well as his porn name. Supposedly George paid top dollar to shut down that particular rumor. George was never stupid. In this day in age it would be impossible to eliminate storylines that are circulating in cyberspace. Then there is Fadi a paid escort. George had made it crystal clear he liked to sleep alone. Supposedly Kenny had his own room in George’s house. Fadi not so much. He was supposedly living in one of George’s other houses. Which could or would make perfect sense. George was known to be extremely generous. If Fadi was a paid escort he would have received payment from George as an employee. Evidently George didn’t want Fadi living with him. Therefore, Fadi lived in one of George’s other properties. If it is true that George had tried to sever ties with Fadi months earlier and Fadi wouldn’t leave. From what we have seen in the public eye Fadi has had his own agenda If it is true that George unsuccessfully tried to kill himself 4 other incidents before succeeding on his 5th attempt. Fadi knew eventually George would accomplish his mission. It would only a matter of time. So of course Fadi would refuse to move out on his own accord. Fadi was on his own mission to get as much as possible from George whether it was money or property. Supposedly George provided Fadi with a vehicle. Which brings us to the information that Fadi has put out there for public knowledge. Fadi was devastated. Fadi lost his true love. Time has passed and with each passing day Fadi has continued to feed the public with supposedly his truth. After 20 months of Fadi’s b.s. and lies not only George’s fans but the general public has had enough of the free loader. Fadi has proved he isn’t very smart. Someone hacked into my emails, twitter account and whatever else he can come up with. Fadi has gone from the broken hearted lover to I hate you George Michael.

So why don’t you try to explain his points.

by Anonymousreply 417August 6, 2018 1:55 PM

Shirlie had also said “I think Andrew got more caught up in the lifestyle than George did. Andrew believed in the Press too much — and then he wanted to rebel against them, to make even more of an idiot of himself. I think in the end he felt it was all true. He started to think he was really like that — oh, I am a drunk. I am wild.

Andrew was lazy. We never used to stop telling him he was lazy. You lazy git, Andrew! Me and George always used to pick on him. But he is the most generous person in the world. His heart Is so big. What always shocked me about Andrew was that — he really does care about people. He never forgets, he always cares. But me and George used to nag him all the time — he used to get up at one in the afternoon. You would see it on George’s face sometimes — what’s he up to now? Andrew could be very childish. But I don’t think George was ever young. He has always had an older mind, he has always seemed too mature for his age. I can’t imagine what he will be like at forty. George was never young.”

I personally think George put too much pressure on himself. He couldn’t lighten up. Maybe had he — George would have been more at peace with himself.

by Anonymousreply 418August 6, 2018 2:33 PM

R12 STFU. Next you are going to start in on George's son and girlfriend again. No one wants to feed your neediness.

by Anonymousreply 419August 6, 2018 5:03 PM

^Thats for R412

by Anonymousreply 420August 6, 2018 5:04 PM

It’s some loser: rr412. We can’t be bothered with you. The more they write the less sense they make. Thankfully we have the ignore button at the bottom right time to make use of that for this loser.

And if you read their trail of other posts they know nothing about anything. Not a insider by any means.

by Anonymousreply 421August 6, 2018 5:51 PM

Fadi’s, George Michael tweets have been published everywhere and anywhere you look. Basically the same old same old garbage. I hope he isn’t making money off of his so-called stories from everyone that has published or printed his crap.

Must have been several very slow days in the news recently.

by Anonymousreply 422August 6, 2018 6:16 PM

[418] to read this and know the outcome is very sad. That by the time George and Andrew became forty, Andrew was the one saying "what’s he up to now." George was the one who later got more caught up in the lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 423August 6, 2018 6:50 PM

[QUOTE] I hope he isn’t making money off of his so-called stories from everyone that has published or printed his crap.

R422 You have zero clue om how tabs, newspapers and online publication works LOL

by Anonymousreply 424August 6, 2018 7:39 PM

loud noise at odd hours? Is he talking about that rumor/news/whatever 2 porn films being made in George's house?

by Anonymousreply 425August 7, 2018 12:17 AM

[quote]Is he talking about that rumor/news/whatever 2 porn films being made in George's house?

R425 That's Keiran, not Fadi

"Loud noise at odd hours" happened only this year.

by Anonymousreply 426August 7, 2018 12:56 AM

this year?

by Anonymousreply 427August 7, 2018 1:07 AM

Legitimate newspapers do not pay for stories but the slutty papers pay.

by Anonymousreply 428August 7, 2018 1:12 AM

we speculated on what info Fadi might have that he can blackmail the family with and maybe that is why they are letting him stay in the RP house. The suicide story he has blabbed now I think has kind of come and gone. Nobody really cares at this point. Do you think this guy has more ammunition and will come out with more dirty secrets? Alex seems to be talking a lot about him from the screenshots Lovelies are posting about his tweets. Does anybody here know what he is saying?

by Anonymousreply 429August 7, 2018 2:12 AM

Alex's last tweet is from Jul 19 he hasn't tweeted anything after that

Alex Georgiou - Jul 19 - fadi says he will fight for his right what right G wanted you long gone

by Anonymousreply 430August 7, 2018 2:22 AM

Fadi is living in George’s property. Where does he get the money to pay his living expenses? How is he paying his legal fees?

by Anonymousreply 431August 7, 2018 2:26 AM

Why do some believe Fadi is in the RP home. Are there photos of him going and coming? There were some photos of Fadi around early July leaving the home with a friend, but nothing since, I think (I could be wrong so do get trigger) Fadi no longer stays in that house anymore. Because it was around late July when he posted the suicide story and later I hate GM text I would not be surprise that Fadi thought by saying GM said he could have the house was a strong ground to stand on.

OT: I was reading over Princess Dina's will and her mother and sisters who were the executor of Diana's. Diana’s mother and sister went to court and obtained a “variation order,” permitting them to distribute the princess’s estate differently from how she’d. Diana’s family ignored her wishes, I believe George's family did the same thing because on of George's fan stated that Fadi check into Fadi Fawaz checked in to The Three Crowns 8 July at 15:09 · Bushey, United Kingdom. That's when he began acting out like brat. ·

by Anonymousreply 432August 7, 2018 3:10 AM

R432 Fadi Fawaz checked in to The Three Crowns 8 July at 15:09 · Bushey, United Kingdom to meet with friends. Nothing more, nothing less. LOL

by Anonymousreply 433August 7, 2018 3:16 AM

^Interesting story about Princess Di's will

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by Anonymousreply 434August 7, 2018 3:16 AM

R432 And yes you are wrong. He still stays at Regent Park

by Anonymousreply 435August 7, 2018 3:18 AM

432 variation of a will is not an an unusual procedure. If a beneficiary receives assets but wants to pass this to someone else or change a share e.g. because something has changed since the will was written it may be cheaper for tax reasons to vary the will than pay the inheritance tax and then pay again when transferring the asset.

by Anonymousreply 436August 7, 2018 7:23 AM

If he still staying at the rp then he must have a real dirt on George that the family does not want made public. I am thinking it might be the severity of his illness.

by Anonymousreply 437August 7, 2018 11:20 AM

I have said before that he is holding a document from George about the RP house; not because of some perceived blackmail

by Anonymousreply 438August 7, 2018 12:32 PM

George was very ill. He had a chronic disease. Fadi knows this for sure and knows George would be mortified if it got out. And because of this the family wants to continue to protect George and his privacy. Fadi knows this. I'm not quite sure if Fadi has the balls to tell it though. It would surely get him nothing in the telling at least not as much as holding it over the family's heads.

by Anonymousreply 439August 7, 2018 3:08 PM

George's family don't care about George or his reputation being tarnished by exes and whores look at the articles, interviews, tweets and docus published since December 25, 2016 they did nothing to prevent them being published

by Anonymousreply 440August 7, 2018 4:10 PM

R440 Agree. Other than that Mirror article that said Anselmo’s family did not like the Freedom docu, the much vaunted GM lawyers did absolutely nothing. Heck, they can’t even get a conviction for the leak of the 999 call.

So to say Fadi has some information that he is blackmailing the family with is laughable at best. Who cares if GM committed suicide? Everyone knows he was sick, who cares how sick he was? He’s dead

by Anonymousreply 441August 7, 2018 4:57 PM

I can’t criticize George’s family. Families are complicated. Death can throw a curve ball into the mix regardless of the dynamics of a family. I’m sure for as many perks George brought to his loved ones there were as many complications. No one really knows what was and is going on in the minds of George’s sisters and father.

Can you imagine what it had to be like for the family when he was hospitalized for pneumonia, knowing he suffered with depression, he fell out of the moving vehicle, fell asleep at the wheel, drove into a building, arrested for possession of drugs, had to do jail time, his restroom shenanigans, late night rendezvous at the park, etc. How about some of the people he surrounded himself with. Most of his fans do not have kind words to say about some of his so-called friends. How do you think the family felt about them. No one could help George. He was in total control of his life from a young age and called all the shots. He trusted few. Depression, addiction and your body getting worn out all take a toll on you and your loved ones.

When George was alive he couldn’t control the media. George tried to keep his career and personal life private and separate. How did that workout for him ... not so good. How do we really know what and how he wanted things to be handled after his death. I feel for his family. It is hard enough to lose a loved one the way they lost George. Then you have to add he was famous and the Fadi Fawaz factor into the mix. More power to his family.

by Anonymousreply 442August 7, 2018 5:20 PM

From R442 - How do we really know what and how he wanted things to be handled after his death.

EXACTLY! We don't. All we have are our assumptions , what Andros say, and what the tabs say

by Anonymousreply 443August 7, 2018 6:25 PM

None of us know for sure but lets not act like they did not have a tough time dealing with his death. I mean he was someone son and brother.

by Anonymousreply 444August 7, 2018 9:21 PM

R444 I agree 100%. I’m sure they are still grieving. No one should have to deal with the crap they have had too.

by Anonymousreply 445August 7, 2018 10:07 PM

Fadi is currently living in George's Regents Park home and Andros believes that despite being excluded from the will, Fadi will be paid a settlement to leave as he is currently contesting the will.

He said: "Fadi is threatening to go all the way to High Court but I think the estate will have to settle with him.

"He's been offered £500,000 and I think the estate should pay a couple of million to get rid of him."

by Anonymousreply 446August 7, 2018 11:11 PM

R446 You are more generous than I would ever be. I don’t care what Fadi would threaten to tell. If it is true he has a document I would deal with that legally. Nothing more or less. He is a real nut.

I read the same info that Andros commented on. Is it true?

by Anonymousreply 447August 7, 2018 11:30 PM

Not my opinion it's quote from Andros. I wouldn't give him a penny!

by Anonymousreply 448August 7, 2018 11:38 PM

From Philip Welham Esq @welham_philip

[quote]Don’t accept anything less than keeping the house you living in and £5Million for lifetime support

[quote]This is any important issue effecting #LGBTQ @TheSun @PT_Foundation @PeterTatchell @huffpostqueer

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by Anonymousreply 449August 8, 2018 12:15 PM

I hope the court throws him out on his ass. BS on LGBTQ. rights. This is nothing but a manipulative grifter who stalked George mercilessly for his money and lifestyle. George was not in any kind of physical or mental state to shake him off. I wonder if there will be witnesses for George's side. I wonder how long the decision will take.

by Anonymousreply 450August 8, 2018 12:28 PM

He's a whore not a partner there's no rights for a gold digging whore

by Anonymousreply 451August 8, 2018 12:31 PM

Just saw this on Twitter. I removing some of the posters names. Just keeping their first name only.

Helen‏ Replying to @fadifawaz

Highbury is a magistrates court. Criminal court. It's where GM was sentenced in 2010. Or does he mean High Court but cant see a case listed today with either Fawaz or Panayiotou named. Is he playing games.

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Kyndall Lincoln‏ Just did the same Google search. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

So this is a Crime Court Fadi is going to. He had got to be the dumbest criminal on the planet.

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by Anonymousreply 452August 8, 2018 2:09 PM

I would appreciate it if anyone hears reliable info regarding Fadi’s court appearance would share it with GM’s fans. Thanks in advance.

by Anonymousreply 453August 8, 2018 5:30 PM

Crime Court? Interesting

by Anonymousreply 454August 8, 2018 6:43 PM

High court usually refers to the superior court (or supreme court) of a country or state. In some countries, it is the highest court (for example, Australia). In others, it is positioned lower in the hierarchy of courts (for example, England and Wales).

by Anonymousreply 455August 8, 2018 6:47 PM

R455 Thanks for the information.

I have a question. Would FF owe the attorney payment regardless of the outcome or only if he wins?

by Anonymousreply 456August 9, 2018 1:20 AM

Fadi has deactivated his twitter, fb and Insta accounts. Any idea why? Has it got to do with the court hearings? Can a UK lawyer find out what the court cases were about?

by Anonymousreply 457August 9, 2018 4:30 AM

[R456] it depends on the agreement with the lawyer but there will also be the other sides costs as well. [R457] However there was no indication there was a court hearing listed.

by Anonymousreply 458August 9, 2018 8:22 AM

Fadi is so stupid. He didn't realize that court schedules are available to the public and now he's being dragged for his bs. Did he make this c**p up because he thought he could scare the family into submission? Kind of astonishing the depths of his hustle. Like a sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 459August 9, 2018 1:05 PM

Why on earth will saying court case “scare the family into submission”? That’s the most stupid thing I heard.

The family won’t care if (a) they are not involved in that court case, if any; and (b) they did not initiate the court case

by Anonymousreply 460August 9, 2018 1:52 PM

What a shit show this still is. Can't wait for it to be done, once and for all.

I truly believe karma will sort out who the assholes were, when all is said and done.

It's high time GM finally does get to rest in peace.

by Anonymousreply 461August 10, 2018 12:09 AM

What is FF court case for? George’s property and/or money? Evidently FF had to shut down his personal social media accounts. That’s a good thing.

by Anonymousreply 462August 10, 2018 12:27 AM

Had to? On all platforms?? Highly unlikely.

More likely- he once again shut it down himself, so he can again claim all the recent SHIT he posted while he was drunk, high or just completely mentally unhinged was yet again, "HACKERS"!!!

It would be comical if it wasn't so pathetically predictable at this point.

by Anonymousreply 463August 10, 2018 1:27 AM

LOL there was no court case. He was posting a selfie in bed on Facebook around the time of the "court case". So please dump into the sewer the idea that he deactivated his Twitter, FB and Insta based on a NON EXISTENT court case. He simply closed them himself

by Anonymousreply 464August 10, 2018 2:45 AM

^Agree. Jeez. How did GM put up with a guy like Fadi who is not bright, short-tempered, attention-seeking on and on and on. A sign of George's descent to the depths in the last years of his life that he thought this guy was going to be his life partner

by Anonymousreply 465August 10, 2018 5:30 AM

R460 But did Fadi think that? Because obviously his court appearance was a lie so why did he say it?

by Anonymousreply 466August 10, 2018 3:14 PM

FF is desperately trying to stay relevant. Since he has shown his true colors even his Twitter fans have deserted him. They really gave him crap today. FF really isn’t to bright. George had to be in charge and in control. The problem with FF is he became a leach.

I would like to know what the document is for that he is holding over he family’s head.

by Anonymousreply 467August 11, 2018 12:58 AM

R449 that guy isn’t actually a lawyer. Just another idiot throwing his crap into the ring. Let’s tey to be a little more dis evening about what we read on twitter.

by Anonymousreply 468August 11, 2018 3:19 AM

Discerning ^

- Anonymous Esq.

by Anonymousreply 469August 11, 2018 3:23 AM

If there is any secret he’s holding it is about George’s “chronic illness” I know in past threads that going any further with this one triggers a lot of people so I won’t go further except to say that George slept around a lot and every Tom, Dick and Harry would come out of the woodwork saying they caught stuff from him and sue if such story came out. . I think he might have found out about his illness while in the hospital from nearly dying of pneumonia (a bizarre thing for a middle aged man in decent health to almost succumb to) . And yes. I know pneumonia is bad. I’ve had it too but his condition was over the top and statistically crazy to happen at his age if he wasn’t already in seriously comprised health After that, his health never improved.

I’m not sure that is what is going on but it’s one possible theory. No better or worse than fadi holding a document of some sort. He referred to RP numerous times as “his place” to some twitter people who challenged him saying it was George’s place. Andros clearly does not know the extent of what is going on.

He could also just be squatting at RP and the family knows he is unhinged and will be a nightmare pretending to have to sleep on the streets if they lock him out. They might just be playing the long game until the will is settled.

No one here knows about when this is going into probate and we can learn about the details of the will?

On another note most of the kenny fan girls have left his instagram finally. A few diehards remain who keep trying to engatyhim on every post he makes. They haven’t realized he hasn’t referred to George once since the summer/fall of last year. Even on the anniversary of his death.

by Anonymousreply 470August 11, 2018 3:41 AM

“Engage “ Kenny

by Anonymousreply 471August 11, 2018 3:43 AM

R470 I imagine if George was poz Fadi would have leaked it to Daily Mail or something by now, but perhaps that is his golden goose that's allowing him to continue his lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 472August 11, 2018 5:15 AM

Stop giving Fadi so much credit. This man post a tweet about going to court at 1:00 p.m. However it was 1:47 p.m. when he made the post while in bed on Facebook.

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by Anonymousreply 473August 11, 2018 5:25 AM

R470 It wasn't only pneumonia. He also had a servere sepsis. And the consequences for the health are serious in later years. But we already discussed that whole subject in the other parts of this thread. Meanwhile another idiot entered the scene on twitter. Weeks ago he felt sorry for FF and now he's threatening to come up with some dirt he knows about him...

by Anonymousreply 474August 11, 2018 6:42 AM

^ severe

by Anonymousreply 475August 11, 2018 6:45 AM

It really is a sad state of affairs for George and his family if FF is holding on to a document regarding George’s health prognosis. George shared a great deal with his fans in fact more than most. However, he also tried to have a private life and if his so called partner, lover or whatever FF wants to refer to himself by should be ashamed of himself if he is holding on to such a document. If anything it makes one question if FF ever truly cared/loved George Michael the man. On the other hand I hate to give FF so much credit but was that the reason why FF wouldn’t leave George alone was because he was playing a waiting game with GM ‘s health knowing his days were numbered. Especially if GM was diagnosed when he was in the hospital with pneumonia. It appears that is when FF stuck his claws into George. If that is the case no wonder George had major trust issues with people.

George had a reputation for being very generous. Heck what did FF have to lose? The answer is nothing he only had everything to gain. That would sure explain why the family seemed to dislike FF so much. I often think how distraught George looked outside of his house on that cold day he spoke to the media after he was discharged from the hospital. George tried to finish his tour only to find out he didn’t have the stamina to do so. Unfortunately it appears things went down hill from there for George.

Fadi Fawaz is one shady character. If George cared so deeply for FF you would think FF would have been living under the same roof as George. Which evidently wasn’t the case. With friends like FF who needs enemies. George deserves so much more than this from FF. FF should be grateful for the lifestyle he lived for a time. FF needs to move on. George’s family deserves closure so they can grieve the loss of their brother and son without all the drama.

Well it looks as if I should go back and read the old posts.

by Anonymousreply 476August 11, 2018 8:05 AM

R474 That idiot knows nothing. His story has holes so big that his story is nothing but rehash of tabloids.

Claims he met Fadi at a party in London with George — years before Fadi even moved to London from Oz and years before Fadi even met George. Heck, he even thinks George was hospitalized in Italy.

Just another poor soul trying to get his 5 minutes of fame by dousing the flames of anger towards Fadi. Of course, some stupid idiots will believe him

by Anonymousreply 477August 11, 2018 9:55 AM

472. I have always wondered if he has information that the family considered damaging if it ever gets out in the public. I am thinking it is probably that George might have been poz and had severe health issues as a result. Like a medical document. It might explain why he has not been kicked out yet. When someone has a slight damaging info it is hard to take action quickly. It takes time. I wonder if he tried to blackmail George when he was alive if he tried to dump him. He probably realized he might have to pay off fadi and he probably did not want to do that.

by Anonymousreply 478August 11, 2018 5:29 PM

R478 It's rather hard not to think there must be something more that he has on George/the Family. He's been garnering out the same headlines for almost two years now, it's just sort of noise to me and I'm shocked the family hasn't done something about it - unless they can't because then he'll leak the big document.

by Anonymousreply 479August 11, 2018 6:16 PM

I won't be surprised if he is paid a couple of millions to go away because that will reconfirm the suspicious feelings some of us have been thinking for a while. It will mean he successfully blackmailed his family into submission in exchange for any damaging info in his possession. Also we should not critize fadi too much, because George is responsible for his poor decision in partners. He was the one that choose fadi and unfortunately, due to his passing his family will now have to deal with him. He put them in a messy situation. That is why we need to make less poor decisions in life. So we don't leave a mess for our loved ones to clean up or get rid of.

by Anonymousreply 480August 11, 2018 7:43 PM

I can’t blame George for FF’s behavior. Even when George was in a relationship and his health permitted him to do so he had an open relationship. He never married any of them. Heck FF had it very nice for several years. He traveled, George bought him a vehicle, he stayed at one of George’s properties and he was probably compensated quite well. Why should FF feel so entitled. FF saw an opportunity and he is hanging on for dear life. Supposedly they were no longer together. If FF knew George’s days were numbered due to health issues all FF had to do was hang around long enough to make his move. You would also think David Austin would know the truth concerning George’s relationship with FF.

Kenny lived with George and had his own bedroom at George’s house. I question Kenny’s motives. What makes him think he has any rights in this situation.

If FF is holding on to a document regarding George’s health and it becomes public knowledge how could anyone prove George was responsible it could very well have been the complete opposite. That person could be responsible. How could they prove anything?

by Anonymousreply 481August 11, 2018 10:00 PM

I don’t recall sepsis being in the published reports of his illness. The physician said it was severe community acquired pneumonia. No sepsis.

by Anonymousreply 482August 12, 2018 1:10 AM

IIRC he was tweeting about the sepsis ....

by Anonymousreply 483August 12, 2018 1:12 AM

I can’t remember where I read about George’s pneumonia but the article also mentioned sepsis.

by Anonymousreply 484August 12, 2018 1:18 AM

Another possibility of what fadi has in his pocket (and like others here I assume he does or lock him out already) is that George probably told fadi all the family secrets. One of his dumbass tweets I think aimed at the sisters a few weeks back made some comment about what more would he expect from abused people. Maybe he would badmouth the family and even if it’s not that bad they wouldn’t want their dirty laundry aired out. They are so private.

There is also that time way back where an interview George did or appearance on a Brit interview show ended up getting pulled and the host (I don’t remember who it was) said that George had revealed some very disturbing things about his childhood. Everyone jumped to it being abuse. Maybe Farti knows something. I’m not even saying immediate family is a part of any sort of abuse but maybe some extended family or other relations or something that happened to George in some other way as a kid.

by Anonymousreply 485August 12, 2018 1:23 AM

Jonathan Ross was the guy ... I just cant imagine talking about serious disturbing things with Jonathan Ross ....

by Anonymousreply 486August 12, 2018 1:32 AM

Fadi definitely has something. I’m surprised andros hasn’t weighed in on the regent park house situation.

Could also be possible that the family does not realize the extent to which people already know about George’s drug abuse. The name of the game supported by David was that nothing was ever wrong. They could be delusional about what people know. They weren’t even admitting he went to rehab which was idiotic considering how much of a public junkie he was. But who knows maybe there were depths of depravity that even we don’t know about. But fadi would.

I will get slammed for bringing his up cause I think people dismissed the story as bs but didn’t a cellmate of George’s get interviewed by the sun? Honestly the stuff the guy was saying wasn’t I’m plausible. And the way he described George. That guy said that George told him he once took off to India in order to enjoy some special type of heroin and that his people were completely petrified for him. A lot of people thought the story was bullshit will never know. It didn’t seem like it was out of the realm of possibilities to me. I only Bring this up to suggest that there might be tons of things that George was up to that none of us would know about still even though it seemed like he overstated and was always getting caught. Even if the story about the jail mate was not true there could be tons of things - in bring it up really just as an example that we don’t really know everything this guy was doing. That random story of porn being shot in his house and ohhh he had no idea. That seemed planted to get ahead of something. Besides if he hung out mostly with that crowd before his final decline, why would it be such a stretch that he allowed it. Maybe we really don’t know everything.

by Anonymousreply 487August 12, 2018 1:36 AM

Sorry. Too many typos for me to mention above. -487

by Anonymousreply 488August 12, 2018 1:39 AM

The porn story smelled. How do a bunch of porn actors and the lot get into a gated home without the knowledge of anyone there or the presence of anyone - staff or otherwise - and shoot pornos. Beyond ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 489August 12, 2018 1:43 AM

R487 But who knows maybe there were depths of depravity that even we don’t know about.

didn't expect better from a Wacko Jacko stan

by Anonymousreply 490August 12, 2018 1:45 AM

I nearly died from sepsis – and ignorance of this condition is killing millions

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by Anonymousreply 491August 12, 2018 1:49 AM

R490. What the fuck was wrong with that statement? He was deep into drugs and spending his time with people like Paul stag and a bunch of porn actors and the like. We don’t know the extent. Get off your over sensitive high horse.

by Anonymousreply 492August 12, 2018 1:55 AM

R492 wow that was a terrifying read. I hope you are doing okay now. Thanks for posting.

by Anonymousreply 493August 12, 2018 1:57 AM

Accept what is, let go of what was, and have faith in what will be.

by Anonymousreply 494August 12, 2018 2:03 AM

George was definitely into some sketchy shit and the idea of him going to India on an extended holiday to shoot Heroin isn't insane to me. He had a lot of unaccounted downtime after 1988 and even more by the mid-90s after Anselmo was gone, which is when I imagine he started to develop some serious addictions. Doesn't take away from the great stuff he did in his life, but it sort of defined him by the end.

by Anonymousreply 495August 12, 2018 2:04 AM

It’s incredible really when you compare this to the ambitious, hard working and disciplined guy of the 80’s. Would never have picked him to fall down so hard. Poor George.

by Anonymousreply 496August 12, 2018 2:22 AM

Same article the jail mate said he told him he and Kate Moss would rent a yacht in Ibiza for cocaine parties more than a few times. She was his neighbor in highgate. That kieranhad a few pics posted with her. Good ol coKate moss.

by Anonymousreply 497August 12, 2018 2:53 AM

In some ways he was just a typical excessive celebrity. He dressed it up by detailing his personal tragedies, and gathered much sympathy but everyone has tragedies - not everyone deals with it by living to extreme excess. He became successful at 17 or 18. He really didn’t know anything different other than being a wealthy celebrity with the money to do whatever he wanted with anyone he wanted. I loved him to pieces but sometimes I wonder if he deserves to be thought of with as much sympathy as I do. He lived his life on his own terms, pushed away any help, and died young as a result of his choices.

by Anonymousreply 498August 12, 2018 3:05 AM

R498 Nah, you're gut is right - his arch is similar to a lot of artists. He obviously suffered from some sort of depression and other unresolved issues, because he was fucking up and feeling shiftless long before he met/lost Anselmo (who probably pulled George even deeper into drugs, if we're being honest), even before becoming famous. Fame only magnifies the issues you have coming into life, and then adds new ones. It's a dangerous combination for a lot of people including George. I don't doubt had he not been so emotionally vulnerable and torn down, he could have been the pop king of the 90s, entered into films, etc. it just wasn't in him though, but neither was walking away from it all.

by Anonymousreply 499August 12, 2018 8:24 AM

In this day and age it seems to me just about anything goes these days. Every family has skeletons in their closet. I’m sure the sisters feel they are living a bad dream. Regardless what damage they feel FF could possibly bring to the family they need to get over it and bring this to an end. FF has zero credibility after all of his ridiculous twitter rants and info he has already given to the tabloids. Whatever FF is holding over their heads can’t be worth giving in to him. George had the opportunity to make the necessary provisions to take care of FF and apparently he did not. That should speak volumes to the family. They have already lived through the trials and tribulations of George’s antics while he was living. People think no less of them or George for that matter. The people that care about them will still care about them and George’s fans think no less of him for the life he chose to live in private. Everyone else will get over it. They are giving FF way too much power. They need to consider the source when it comes to Fadi Fawaz.

So far there are the accusations of some sort of childhood drama/abuse, struggles with George’s sexuality, George’s escapades in parks and restrooms, drugs and alcohol, the Alpha woman and George fathering a son, porn stars and using George’s house for a porn flick or flicks, jail, falling out of a moving vehicle, a variety of health issues, George’s father cheating on his mother, George’s father giving him a hard time when he did come out to his parents, his sister being a lesbian and I’m sure there are more I didn’t mention.

Then there is George the man who was a genius musically, independent, a great sense of humor, caring, generous and a man that loved his family, the friends he had for years and his fans.

Another words George was a human being with wonderful qualities and flaws just like the rest of us.

People are not going to judge his family due to FF’s threats or his so called truths. Or at least the people that matter in their lives today. I do think the average person doesn’t want to see FF get a penny more from George’s estate.

by Anonymousreply 500August 12, 2018 8:35 AM

500 I have to stop you right here with your bullshit theory about the alpha female and him fathering a son. That is all lies and you need to stop promoting it. George never had a child and you lovelies need to be careful spreading rumors that are untrue.

by Anonymousreply 501August 12, 2018 2:56 PM

R500 First of all learn how to read. I never said I believed there was an Alpha or child. I listed a number of accusations that have been floating around for some time.

Me, personally, never ever thought George had a secret lover and so called son. Thank you very much!

I am not a lovelie.

Sounds as though that particular rumor gets your blood boiling.

by Anonymousreply 502August 12, 2018 5:17 PM

R502 I agree with R501 Alpha woman and son is total BS story spread here on DL and Twitter. There is absolutely no proof whatever this woman existed and she had anything to do with GM. To list that with problems that George and other people have spoken about and their is actual photographic proof for yrs is to give credibility to some fantasy some fool hiding behind anonymous names and accounts has been trying to spread. People need to ignore this troll so the story dies a natural death for lack of attention. In fact the Lovelies on Twitter have been remarkably restrained and not followed that account in the 100s and given the person the publicity they crave for

by Anonymousreply 503August 12, 2018 8:37 PM

502 no it does not. I just don't think you should be stating it in your supposed accusation. By the way major publications never published the rumor. We know it was started by a selected small group of derang lovelies online. It is an unfounded rumor and we should leave it at that. The drugs and sex has been well documented that we know of and the fantasy rumors is expected from crazy fanatics. Most childfree male pop star have truly made it when there are rumors of them fathering a secret child.

by Anonymousreply 504August 12, 2018 8:38 PM

R504 Spot on exactly what I said before you in R503

by Anonymousreply 505August 12, 2018 8:40 PM

R498 you are right. George was always saying one thing for public consumption and doing something else in his private life. The bereavements he suffered were massive and I have great empathy for that. But he used it too much to make excuses for his excesses and indulgences. Ultimately his lack of owning up to his problems and acknowledging his addictions led him to self-destruction. Elton is right on that. Never really wanted to turn away from the path to nowhere with his excesses and get into rehab and take control of his life. Sadly we lost a person of great talent and a wonderful heart because of that

by Anonymousreply 506August 12, 2018 8:46 PM

Did he have a wonderful Heart though? I want to hang on to that. I get that he gave lots to charity. So do many. I wonder if the most clear picture given about George was Simon Napier bell who pretty much described him as a temperamental megalomaniac.

When he could no longer access his musical talents he did his best to stay in the limelight with spectacular attention getting behaviour and brash political views (often on tv while clearly under the influence since he would struggle to make a succinct point). He craved the media attention he claimed he hated.

He was forever explaining himself away and acting like he knew he was doing bad things but blah blah blah on interviews instead of maintaining a dignified silence and sorting his shit out. He could have killed people many times behind the wheel. When he got caught with crack he begged the officer for a lesser charge because it would mean he’d miss his USA tour and took off to the USA as fast as he could the next day. No guilt as he continued the same behaviour over again behind the wheel, risking lives.

The friends we know of who were not on his payroll (Andrew namely) cared but found him virtually intolerable to be around and extremely frustrating. And those who dared to speak off the record despite nda’s all referred to him as horrifically stubborn and controlling.

I’m the same person who is struggling how to reconcile how much sympathy to give him. It’s easy to moon over his hardships but truthfully most of us have had equal torture and not spent the rest of their lives screaming poor me from ther castle on the hill.

Not sure where this is coming from. I guess I’m Just pissed that I can’t really enjoy his music right now when I play it because the drama he left in his wake continues to overshadow. I hope I can again someday but right now he pisses me off. I don’t know who the guy who could right sensitive lyrics really was. Maybe it was just a gift of the written word. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 507August 13, 2018 2:06 AM

[R507] Your post is so spot on when it comes to George behavior. On one hand George wants to be seen as this victim, while behaving reckless in his personal life. George keep people who could be control around him. That is why that story of Kenny dumping his drugs out was a joke. I believe that George was a good person at heart, but lost hi way when his mother pass.

by Anonymousreply 508August 13, 2018 5:40 AM

R507 He was definitely a good person, but he was also an addict (of many things) and then really changes a person. He had issues with depression and poor self image long before he was famous, and never seemed to be particularly happy (other than the year with Anselmo prior to his HIV + diagnosis). When you were only happy for a span of 2-3 years in the early 90s, there's obviously an issue. He self medicated and that's what lead to his death - amazing he survived as long as he did.

Since you mentioned it, his opposition to the Iraq War came from the right place, and ultimately he was right, but he just wasn't in the position at the time to be leading the charge against it. People tend to discount the opinions of pop stars, especially ones that were just up on charges of sexually lewd acts.

I imagine all of that is why he sort of stepped away from doing much of anything for years at a time - he knew that if he got caught he would make headlines and then have to find a new way to explain it all away on Parkinson. The crack incident in the public shitter was a real low point, even for him. He moved forward because I think he knew he owed a final Greatest Hits tour to his fans, and that kept him fairly sober and off of smoking crack (sad, isn't it?). Those shows were good too - I saw him twice and he did great (his voice was a little jacked from all the smoking, but nothing too bad).

Once he was done touring it was back to the same vices, and he really started to decline. Just sit around the mansion and smoke some crack, troll for some cock at the Heath, and do it all over again the next day I suppose.

by Anonymousreply 509August 13, 2018 6:25 AM

R 507, R509 Good posts. I'm not sure how really nice George was. He had impeccable manners but I think he felt entitled and superior and often thought of everybody else as underlings. And although a superstar I can't even fathom how boring his life must have been. Trolling and drugs were his compulsion but his real excitement was television. I did enjoy his interview on Hard Talk. I thought he was very succinct and articulate. People say celebrities should keep their mouths shut when it come to politics etc but what profession is ok to have in order to speak out?

by Anonymousreply 510August 13, 2018 1:59 PM

It seems like he had nothing much to do than smoke crack and cruise for penis. It seems like he gave up a long time ago before he became really reclusive. By the last few years of his life he seems to have completely given up of ever having a comeback. The extreme weight gain and health issues changed him a lot. The spark in his eyes was long gone. He seems angry and over it all. That is what I noticed from the rare pictures of him from 2015.

by Anonymousreply 511August 13, 2018 2:26 PM

R507 I think it’s the curse of creative genius to exist in paradox or contradiction. Despite all the self-destructive behavior, there was still something very principled about George – many of his friends refer to this. Think about the energy, stamina, and determination one would need at 17 or 18 years old to be successful in the music business and then to continue to be viable. Add to this his insane talent and George was cursed and blessed with an untenable balancing act. How to unearth the music in his heart and soul and how NOT to not be taken advantage of by every other asshole on Earth.

I’m sure that to persevere and be successful in an industry typified by its ruthless treatment of artists, one must develop a shell – a façade. George did this with precision and to many that shell appeared as “horrifically stubborn and controlling.” I’m sure at times he was. But think about it. There was no other way he could be in order to survive. Yes, he did some very stupid things – he was messy, a train wreck at times – but he was always working in service of his muse, music. He was a poet – writers are ridiculously vulnerable people, dissecting every nuance, and slight. I often just read his lyrics and marvel at all he was capable of – the crushing sorrow he felt, the brief respites of joy, the yearning for peace. And then, there was his capacity to completely oversee all production aspects of project – to create beauty from torment and uncertainty – and still retain his singular vision. All this he achieved in the midst of continued and vicious media scrutiny – not to mention George constantly being subject to the tirades of a homophobic culture.

[quote]He was forever explaining himself away and acting like he knew he was doing bad things

It’s that false bravado – the façade that shielded him from the attacks of a homophobic culture, scurrilous media, and false friends. I can’t imagine the loneliness he felt.

I completely get what you are saying about how much sympathy one can have for someone who appears to have everything and yet, apparently squandered it. But I don’t think it’s ever that simple. George obviously struggled and kept a good deal of tumult to himself – despite the copious interviews about his shortcomings. And though he may very well have been “horrifically stubborn and controlling” there were still plenty of “lovers” and “friends” that took advantage of him and left him in a worse state than they found him in. Indeed, if any of his so-called friends had the guts to intervene, he may still be with us, but no one wanted to be cut off from the golden goose. Again, I know with addicts, it’s never that simple.

[quote]Truthfully most of us have had equal torture and not spent the rest of their lives screaming poor me from ther castle on the hill...

True. We’ve all endured hardships. We haven’t however, been hounded by the media and had our every misstep broadcast worldwide along with photos. We haven’t been dissected by strangers [yes, the way we are dissecting George right now…] and most of us have been able to come out without having CNN broadcast it and every newspaper in the world seize on the moment.

[quote] the drama he left in his wake continues to overshadow…

The subsequent drama has nothing to do with George and everything to do with those who believe they should still be able to leech off him – believe for some reason they are “owed” something. The drama for George is over – God bless his soul.

So yes, I believe he had a good heart – albeit horribly fractured – a heart that wrestled, just like the rest of us, with a capricious and often unforgiving universe. [I know - long ass post - forgive me]

by Anonymousreply 512August 13, 2018 4:22 PM

George was a decent person deep down, but his own self-obsession is what killed him in the end. I never saw him shed a tear for anyone except himself- not even Anselmo.

by Anonymousreply 513August 13, 2018 7:20 PM

R513 If you listen to the "Red Line" interview - the last one he gave with Kristy Young - George breaks down about half an hour in when talking about Anselmo. He actually starts sobbing and it's heartbreaking. I'm surprised they left it in.

by Anonymousreply 514August 13, 2018 7:39 PM

That redline interview was quiet sad. It was full of pain and regrets. It is like you are listening to a man reflect on his life and career in a painful way. It seems like a self fullfiling prophecy of checking out. I don't think he was in the right state of mind and he sounded unwell.

by Anonymousreply 515August 14, 2018 2:10 AM

Just wanted to say thanks for all the great thoughtful posts over the last few days.

by Anonymousreply 516August 14, 2018 3:42 AM

R498 In some ways he was just a typical excessive celebrity. He dressed it up by detailing his personal tragedies, and gathered much sympathy but everyone has tragedies - not everyone deals with it by living to extreme excess. He really didn’t know anything different other than being a wealthy celebrity with the money to do whatever he wanted with anyone he wanted.

R 507 I get that he gave lots to charity. So do many. I wonder if the most clear picture given about George was Simon Napier bell who pretty much described him as a temperamental megalomaniac.

R508 On one hand George wants to be seen as this victim, while behaving reckless in his personal life.

R510 I'm not sure how really nice George was. He had impeccable manners but I think he felt entitled and superior and often thought of everybody else as underlings.

R511 It seems like he had nothing much to do than smoke crack and cruise

hateful trolls are repeating themselves by rehashing their posts from part 1-14 for the nth time! Yes thank you for ruining every fucking thread!

by Anonymousreply 517August 14, 2018 4:52 AM

R513 I never saw him shed a tear for anyone except himself- not even Anselmo.

What a massive massive massive massive cunt you are

by Anonymousreply 518August 14, 2018 4:59 AM

Thank you R512

by Anonymousreply 519August 14, 2018 5:03 AM

R517, Well, it's a bit more interesting than sycophantically fawning over him and posting Careless Whisper for the 50th time.

by Anonymousreply 520August 14, 2018 8:28 AM

His tears in the red line docu. over Anselmo weren't actully for Anselmo though, they weren't for life Anselmo lost or pain for the pain Anselmo suffered, they were over the recollection of his own pain at the time.

Anselmo was George's muse and he used him when he wanted to recall what it felt like to love, lose, desire etc. for writing purposes and for personal effects. The fact that their relationship was filled with angst from early on due to Anselmo's HIV status, and the fact he lost him in the beginning stages of the relationship whilst still the heady days of new love meant that he would never become tired, bored, indifferent or complacent with the relationship.

by Anonymousreply 521August 14, 2018 10:34 AM

R517 How can you ruin a Fadi thread? I thank everybody for their diverse comments. I get the impression that these are coming from true fans, not the opposite.

by Anonymousreply 522August 14, 2018 11:53 AM

I don't think you need to blind to someone's faults and weaknesses to be a true fan. I loved George and was a true fan but I wasn't under any illusions. He wasn't a saint, he was weak, but he had something special and unique about him which made up for his many faults, he was someone worth admiring, but he was also someone worth pitying. These contradictions kept us interested for all those years. The recent posts are much more interesting than those that just want to throw insults at other posters rather than debate intelligently.

by Anonymousreply 523August 14, 2018 12:07 PM

517 and 518 what is wrong with you. All you do is comment by starting shit with others. Why are you so defensive and trolling.

by Anonymousreply 524August 14, 2018 12:21 PM

R521

I believe you are right about G’s reaction to Anselmo in the Red Line interview...

[quote]His tears in the red line docu. over Anselmo weren't actully for Anselmo though, they weren't for life Anselmo lost or pain for the pain Anselmo suffered, they were over the recollection of his own pain at the time.

To me, it only points to the fact that George was much more fragile than he ever let on. His vulnerability is what endeared him to so many fans, despite his attempts to conceal it. One would think by this point in time, his grief would have subsided, but I suspect he was crying, as you point out – not so much for the loss of Anselmo – but for the mess his life had become, for the opportunities he squandered, for his failing health, for his loneliness.

In the case of an individual who is extremely fragile, loss and regret can be devastating. I think a lot of the heartache over Anselmo was due to G’s knowledge that he would never, at this point in his life, recreate the exultation of his youth nor find someone to love him for who he really was – an incredibly complex, sensitive individual who played by his own rules and yet, was graced with a profoundly principled nature.

by Anonymousreply 525August 14, 2018 6:35 PM

Well said 525. The quote you stated that really sums up that red line interview, "not so much for the loss of Anselmo – but for the mess his life had become, for the opportunities he squandered, for his failing health, for his loneliness." You were the second person who really listened to the interview while others superficially focused on the change in his voice.

by Anonymousreply 526August 14, 2018 8:11 PM

[quote]I get the impression that these are coming from true fans

these are coming from haters not fans

by Anonymousreply 527August 14, 2018 8:16 PM

R521 His tears in the red line docu. over Anselmo weren't actully for Anselmo though

You don't know shit

by Anonymousreply 528August 14, 2018 8:18 PM

You never really get over the loss of a partner, and given that Anselmo was George's first real live-in partner (he obviously had flings and the like before him) and they never really moved out of the honeymoon phase, it's logical that he would still be torn up over what could have been over 20 years later.

by Anonymousreply 529August 14, 2018 8:24 PM

It was a discussion thread until R498 started to ruining it again why the fuck are you doing it we heard you before you said it like 100 times in the previous threads you like to repeat your bs in every 100 posts to change the direction of topics

by Anonymousreply 530August 14, 2018 8:26 PM

Unfortunately heartless cunts incl. Aids troll and pedo Jacko stan are back

by Anonymousreply 531August 14, 2018 8:28 PM

What the hell is wrong with you lovelies. The comments from 528 downward went to shit. All written by delusional lovelies trolling and calling other posters name. None of you have any meaningful insight to add than to argue with those fans who actually have a different perspective to add to the discussion.

by Anonymousreply 532August 15, 2018 1:03 AM

Insulting and posting hateful bs is different to having different perspective

by Anonymousreply 533August 15, 2018 1:20 AM

R520 fawning over him and posting Careless Whisper for the 50th time.

CW is not posted in this thread

by Anonymousreply 534August 15, 2018 1:21 AM

For the posters above who are saying George didnt shed a tear for anybody etc. It all depends on each person's perspective. If he cried during the Redline interview one person can feel it was because of the long felt grief for Anselmo and how different his life could have been without that tragedy. Somebody else can look at the same thing and say 'he was so self-centered and self-absorbed and was crying out of self-pity'

Go and watch the early performances of "Where I Hope You Are" after he sang it for the first time in Prague. In those performances he was in tears and so emotional and got through singing the song using all his professional experience. Watch some of the performances of Different Corner and you can literally tears in his eyes. You could see the regret and sadness of what his life had become and I think a realization of the wrong turns he had taken during some of the performances of the Symphonica Concert. Then of course the near death experience in Dec 2011. GM knew very well he had made a mess of his life but was too frail health-wise and emotionally to take control and get back on the right track at that point.

For this so-called control freak how wounding and painful that must have been and the private hell of those last 5 yrs one can imagine. Let us not judge him so harshly.

by Anonymousreply 535August 15, 2018 7:19 AM

R529 you’re the same troll who posted that Melanie was gay and a bunch of other disgustingly false comments. You have nothing to add therefore your critique of the recent comments that are actually intelligent means nothing. You will just be ignored from now on. Troll.

And for the dickhead of complains about posts / topics being rehashed go fuck yourself. No one wants to scroll through 1000’s of posts littered with your bullshit to find the intelligent comments.

To others - just block (bottom right button) assholes like these.

by Anonymousreply 536August 15, 2018 12:18 PM

Sorry that was meant for r517 r527

by Anonymousreply 537August 15, 2018 12:22 PM

And r531 I should the illiterate fuck who is soreading false troll rumours around the thread. About the sisters etc. Just hit the ignore button.

These are just losers trying to ruin a good discussion. Carry on and ignore them.

Sorry r529! I mistyped the post number.

by Anonymousreply 538August 15, 2018 12:25 PM

R535 So true. Personally I believe dealing with his sexuality issues since back in the days of Wham! which was a big deal in the 80’s compounded by becoming very successful at a young age, discovering he was actually good looking enough to become a sex symbol to many. Discovering he was as talented as he thought he was at a young age. Was overwhelming for him.

George was conscious of people in need from a young age. Wham! performed a benefit concert for the miners. He participated in the charity for Band Aid with other performers. George gave the royalties from ‘Last Christmas/Everything She Wants’ to Ethiopian famine relief. George was surprised the other performers didn’t make a contribution other than their physical performance for Band Aid. George donated the proceeds from ‘Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me’ to Aids Hospice London Lighthouse kand the Rainbow Trust children’s charity. George was in his legal battle with Sony during ‘Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me’ period. If there was ever a time when George wouldn’t be thinking of others is during his legal battle you would think.

My point about the above is George’s heart was in the right place, however, from the outside his steps to fame seemed effortless. Which wasn’t the case. In a way he actually did sell his soul for fame. I’m not sure how many people could live a lie for a good part of their career. He knew he was a gay man, but not to his mom and dad, fans and others. The only people he could be George were his close circle of friends. I have a heard time believing George’s father accepted his son being a gay man as easily as George portrayed him to be to the public. George was very lonely. Everybody wanted him but no one actually knew him a person. The wanted his image. Drugs and alcohol helped him cope with what became his life. If you suffer from depression and you have an addictive personality and your name is George Michael and self centered your days are numbered right there. George was wealthy, talented, lived a wreck less life and didn’t answer to anyone. When he was on a natural high, meeting Anselmo, George’s life was amazing. When it went down hill, Anselmo’s illness, his death, his mother’s illness and her death he hit rock bottom. When a real friend was in need he was always there for them. Martin Kemp’s illness is a perfect example. He helped Shirlie and her family out financially and never asked for anything in return.

Has anyone ever wondered why George’s three relationships were with men were from other countries. Anselmo, Kenny and Fadi. It’s almost as if he was always searching and looking for something to fill the void in his life. It is impossible to experience a normal relationship when you are traveling back and forth, owning properties here and there. He didn’t do anything that would be considered normal in anyone else's life. Once he came out it’s almost as if he was a little kid rebelling. He wanted the world to know good or bad. Look at me! He didn’t want to answer to anyone he was free and he wasn’t ever going to be put back in the closet. You either accept him as he is or you don’t. His dealings with the law became unavoidable because I don’t think he really cared anymore. He was to far gone whether it had to do with his health issues, his drug and alcohol use or a use. He didn’t want his family or real friends involved in his life. He would have had to be accountable for his actions. By surrounding himself by yes people left him in charge and calling all his own shots. He had been a control freak from the very beginning. He had is mother’s beliefs where money was concerned and his father’s business sense. In many ways he was his father.

We will never know what really made George tick or why he made the decisions he did. We do know he was a gifted musician that was able to write lyrics that could break your heart or make you smile, he was kind and generous but he suffered from severe depression and eventually health issues. He was complex just like his career.

by Anonymousreply 539August 15, 2018 12:35 PM

R535

[quote]For this so-called control freak how wounding and painful that must have been and the private hell of those last 5 yrs one can imagine. Let us not judge him so harshly.

Thank you for your insight. It was obvious from many Symphonica videos George was struggling – not just with memories of past loves but with his current predicament. My god, he was more emotional and sensitive than 20 people put together, and it propelled his creativity but ravaged his personal life. And having hid his sexuality for so long caused irreparable damage. The stress of that alone cannot be underestimated. So yes, we need to cut George some slack. He left us so much beauty and persevered in the face of horrible adversity – he kept bounding back – sadly, until his untimely end. I often feel as if the world just let him slip away.... Maudlin, I know but still, not enough effort was made to intervene. Everyone around him was there for the money, to live off of his fame, to profit from his artistry. He knew that.

by Anonymousreply 540August 15, 2018 2:39 PM

The Story of... 'I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me)' by George and Aretha

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by Anonymousreply 541August 15, 2018 10:28 PM

Yes R529, it was all about the 'what could have been', although chances are it never would have lasted. I don't think Anselmo was the man George believed he was.

by Anonymousreply 542August 15, 2018 10:34 PM

R542 I don't think Anselmo was the man George believed he was.

Why do you think that?

by Anonymousreply 543August 15, 2018 10:37 PM

R543 Anselmo was a hustler - just like the rest.

by Anonymousreply 544August 16, 2018 12:07 AM

R544 Sad if true

by Anonymousreply 545August 16, 2018 12:40 AM

R544 Is that true regarding Anselmo or is it fake news. If that is true that would only add to George Michael’s trust issues.

by Anonymousreply 546August 16, 2018 3:27 PM

R546 I'd read somewhere - can't recall where - that Anselmo stalked George from hotel to hotel and was quite a "playboy" ... He evidently had other "rich" lovers - the implication seemed to be that he knew a good deal when he saw it... There may be others who can speak to this or have first hand knowledge of the situation but it wasn't the first time I'd read that Anselmo was a gold-digger...

by Anonymousreply 547August 16, 2018 3:47 PM

» Who was Anselmo Feleppa? «

- Mirror 1996

his latest smash-hit album Older is a tribute to his dead buddy, a Brazilian dress designer. In a note tucked away inside the CD sleeve are the words: "This album is dedicated to… Anselmo Feleppa, who changed the way that I look at my life." Who exactly was this young man?

Anselmo Feleppa died at the age of 33 in 1993 either of a brain haemorrhage or an AIDS-related illness, depending on which story you believe. He was brought up in the poor, unglamorous town of Petropolis, 50 dusty miles outside Rio de Janeiro. Anselmo's family were devout Catholics who wanted their boy to work in their clothing firm and marry a dependable local girl. But handsome Anselmo was a flamboyant homosexual, not suited to living in a small town where his family knew everybody and everybody knew them, and their son's indiscretions. He wanted to be a star or at least to live like one. He pined for life in the big city where he could indulge his creativity, flounce around and behave like one of his many idols. Anselmo became a dress designer and developed a passion for the music of George Michael. Fan and star had similar features. So Anselmo had little difficulty shaving his black beard into a copy of George's trademark stubble.

When George went to 1991's massive Rock in Rio festival, Anselmo decided he had a golden opportunity to meet the celebrity he worshipped. According to friends, Anselmo's first gambit was to buy front row tickets to the enormous show, hoping that he could catch George's eye. Later that evening he hung out at George's hotel, hoping the singer would recognise him from the concert. But when the star breezed through the lobby of the deluxe Copocabana Palace Hotel, he failed to notice Anselmo, lounging hopefully, and no doubt theatrically, in a corner.

Anselmo hit on the idea of wangling his way on to the private resort island which was George's next stop on a trip around the world. Pretending to be a famous Italian designer, Anselmo booked himself into one of the rooms on the island. The only other guests were George and his entourage. So it was there marooned together with hardly anyone else to talk to, that George and Anselmo met and forged their special friendship. It was a friendship that developed until the two men were virtually inseparable. Anselmo did not go straight home after that holiday, but phoned his family and friends back in Brazil. He told them that he was enjoying a lavish lifestyle at George's expense. The pair supposedly cruised the Caribbean together in a yacht rented by George. Their world travels continued to New York and Los Angeles. At the Limelight, a New York club popular with homosexuals, George and Anselmo were seen dancing late into the night, together with the star's large entourage. Wealthy George, well known for his generosity, presented Anselmo with gifts. Anselmo claimed he was given a Cartier watch by the star. He also telephoned home to say he had received a Mercedes car from George. On a trip home to Petropolis, Anselmo told friends that he had bought an expensive apartment, overlooking a lagoon. The new flat featured a state-of-the-art sound system on which Anselmo could play George's CDs.

by Anonymousreply 548August 16, 2018 4:36 PM

But one night as he was overseeing the decoration of his new flat, Anselmo collapsed and died. The death has been attributed to a brain haemorrhage. It has also been reported that the haemorrhage was AIDS-related. George's long-term publicist Connie Filippello says that Anselmo's deathstruck George particularly hard partly because his friend had been so young. She adds: "Anselmo was a friend of George and George's whole family. He was a lovely person, a really happy guy. When somebody like that dies, it is a great shock." But why dedicate a whole album to him? "George is a very private man and has not given any explanation," says Connie.

Reviewers of the album, have commented on the "overtly homosexual sentiments expressed in the lyrics" and reminded readers that George is already an icon to millions of gay men in many countries. But this should not concern London-based George, who told MTV in 1993 that he did not care what people thought about his sexuality. He said: "If people look at me and they think, 'This is a gay man' fine. If they look at me and think, 'This is a straight man' fine also."

The final twist is that the Feleppa family in Brazil are distancing George from Anselmo. According to Anselmo's brother, Alexandre, the singer never gave him anything, not the Mercedes, the Cartier, nothing. "Maybe George Michael sent flowers to his funeral, but I don't know that for a fact,' he said. "If he did, they weren't under his name."

Only George knows how important Anselmo really was to his life. The subject of his undoubted affection now lies in a Brazilian cemetery under a granite slab inscribed: "The tears of the interred will turn to joy in Heaven. Love has made your life eternal." Anselmo's mother Alice said that she and George visited the tomb arm in arm. "We wept together," she said.

by Anonymousreply 549August 16, 2018 4:37 PM

R547 Is this the same article you were referring? It's from Mirror!

by Anonymousreply 550August 16, 2018 4:38 PM

R549 Reviewers of the album, have commented on the "overtly homosexual sentiments expressed in the lyrics"

George was out in his songs and in music videos in LWP and Older

by Anonymousreply 551August 16, 2018 4:41 PM

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by Anonymousreply 552August 16, 2018 5:39 PM

I have read the above regarding Anselmo. In George’s eyes Anselmo was perfect. Anselmo had the pleasure of meeting the real George Michael not the star. George spotted Anselmo in the crowd while he was performing. In fact George didn’t look in his direction for fear he was going to forget the words to a song. There was some kind of chemistry between them. There wasn’t any baggage between the two. George didn’t have to live a lie when he was with Anselmo. Their relationship was fun and a breath of fresh air for George. Anselmo taught George to lighten up. They went swimming, bowling, hung out with Anselmo’s best friend that happened to be a female. George was free to be himself. Anselmo took ill before their relationship had a chance to go down hill. George’s other relationships got past the Anselmo stage. Reality set in. It is pretty hard to fill the shoes of a dead man. The Trogan Soul’s dvd shows George driving a convertible sports car with Anselmo. George looks really happy. It also shows George, Andros, Deon, Chris Porter and a few others at the recording studio. The atmosphere is light and happy. Anselmo seemed to be in a good place with the guys. Whatever changed George hadn’t happened at that point.

by Anonymousreply 553August 16, 2018 5:43 PM

What the fuck does predatory homosexual means?

by Anonymousreply 554August 16, 2018 5:50 PM

R550 Actually, it wasn't the Mirror where I first read it... I believe people posted about the relationship who had first hand knowledge... At least, they claimed to have access to GM and Anselmo during that time. I'll try and dig it up... But really, it would be no big surprise to me that the so-called "love of G's life" was a player. George was so vulnerable at that time and would have succumbed to anyone who showed him a little compassion - whether or not that came from an honest place. As others have indicated, G was inclined to look at the past through very rosy glasses...

by Anonymousreply 555August 16, 2018 10:45 PM

George was also with that tattle tale brad Branson at the time. He whined that anselmo was George’s bonafide who got more expensive gifts.

Some female friend of Branson really did a number on George on a blog I believe after he died. She claimed all sorts of things about George (and that she knows secrets and things about him never published) and apparently had an axe to grind because he never gave her an interview despite her knowing lots of secrets about him. She might have been a back up singer for ABC or something like that at one time in her early career. Anyway, I don’t believe either George or anselmo were monogamous though I think he was really in love - but a clandestine relationship makes it seem more Intense. He was basically hiding out in LA from family and friends.

He certainly was stalking George. He may very well have been an opportunist. I have to say though in every picture he looked like such a sweetheart. He looked very kind.

Kenny looked like a spotlight craver and fadi just a lump there for George’s sexual needs towards the end.

One other point. I know people hate andros but he never had a bad word to say about anselmo. Even named one of his kids after him. He was quite honest about kenny though. I feel like that says something. Andros could have sliced and diced George and anselmo’s relationship as being a user hanging on to George etc in years since to make a buck. He never did.

by Anonymousreply 556August 17, 2018 1:45 AM

Wow that was quite the article r552. I think it was a somewhat accurate presentation of his personality by that time.

Btw Richard or Richard and Judy said in camera mi hrs ago that they lived near him and used to have him and Jenny to dinner. At some point though the drug use became so bad that George totally changed. He said: “you just couldn’t reach through to him anymore. “

by Anonymousreply 557August 17, 2018 2:08 AM

Kenny not Jenny lol.

by Anonymousreply 558August 17, 2018 2:08 AM

Jenny LOL

Jenny I mean Kenny is awful he's brain is damaged by the alcohol and botox

by Anonymousreply 559August 17, 2018 2:12 AM

The above article answers quite a few unanswered questions I have often asked myself about George. George had a tendancy to make light of situations he got himself into. I wonder what the truth is about Anselmo and the lavish gifts. Anselmo’s brother claimed George never gave Anselmo any expensive gifts. I had read that Kenny and George had discussed getting married. George made it sound as if they put it on the back-burner for awhile. After reading the article it makes perfect sense why they never married. I think George was totally in denial when it came to his addiction to drugs. In the book “Bare” he discusses his feelings about drugs openly. Supposedly he didn’t care for cocaine and he would never use heroine. He was incomplete control of his use of drugs unlike others he knew. I guess he was looking out of his rosy colored glasses again. It’s frustrating as a fan. George was born with such a musical gift and he got lost somewhere along the way. It makes you wonder what could have been.

by Anonymousreply 560August 17, 2018 3:09 AM

I wonder if Andrew really was his first crush.

by Anonymousreply 561August 17, 2018 3:32 AM

R561 I often wondered what George and Andrew talked about when George's poured out his heart to Andrew all night in LA like an exorcism (this was after WHAM) and got everything off his chest and his depression lifted. What was it that he was telling Andrew?

by Anonymousreply 562August 17, 2018 7:18 PM

[R562] I was wondering the same thing. Because in the interview Andrew said George acted as if it never happen, which was strange. Something along those lines.

by Anonymousreply 563August 17, 2018 11:40 PM

George Michael’s “BARE” Andrew: “What I remember about that night in LA is how far down he was. I was really surprised because everything in his life had gone to plan. But because I had been in Monaco and because he keeps an awful lot of what he thinks and does to himself, I had no idea that he felt so bad emotionally. What was troubling him seemed to be a combination of things: he was doubting everything, and more than anything I think he just needed to get all the tears out. I can’t solve his problems for him, but I can listen to them and I can let him know that I’m there. He had been keeping everything in for so long.

He had Kathy, who was very much in love with him, but George and I were both twenty-four at the time and half our lives had more or less paralleled each other’s. Neither of us are going to get that degree of closeness with anybody else.

Like George, like everybody, I’ve got my insecurities, I lack confidence in certain areas. But I’ve got a stable family, good friends and anything else outside that doesn’t really matter a shit. George knows that. Should his world fall apart, he’s got his mum and dad, his sisters, his friends. If no one else gives a shit, they will.”

by Anonymousreply 564August 18, 2018 2:07 AM

George Michael’s “BARE” George: “The black time ended after I had it out with Andrew, that time of feeling sorry for myself and thinking that everything was a pile of shit. He made me see how wrong that was. I’m just as close to some other people as I am to Andrew, but it’s a different kind of relationship and he understands things about me on an intellectual level that the others don’t, even though in some ways they know me much better. I hadn’t seen him for quite a while and he was the person I needed to talk to. It was the beginning of the turnaround — so much so that when I saw him a few months later and told him that I was all right, he was still very worried about me and needed some convincing that I was really okay.”

by Anonymousreply 565August 18, 2018 2:17 AM

I wondered about LA too. The quote is good above - thanks for posting, but doesn’t reveal much at all about his angst

Andrew was good that way. He would be somewhat honest yet doesn’t reveal much beyond what is out there already. I mean that as a compliment.

Those who have not seen the YouTube interview with an Italian news outlet while in his cycle tour really should He was more honest about George’s condition in the final years than anyone

by Anonymousreply 566August 18, 2018 2:18 AM

^without dishonouring his friend’s privacy.

by Anonymousreply 567August 18, 2018 2:19 AM

R565. And of course Andrew was right. George wasn’t okay.

by Anonymousreply 568August 18, 2018 2:20 AM

R566 What interview? any link?

by Anonymousreply 569August 18, 2018 2:38 AM

George talks about being incredibly depressed and staying away from his family for a lot of time that year. He didn’t want to put them through it. He put on a brave face when he did see them. I’m good at that. I tried not to let them have any idea of what was going on in my life, which was basically just getting wrecked. I never really drank during the daytime— mostly because I was very rarely awake then.

For the main part it was booze, but I was doing a fair bit of drugs as well. I wasn’t taking coke. Still to this day, I don’t take come, for awhile I took Ecstacy when it was not very available over here. I took it simply because it made me feel that everything was wonderful. He goes on to say all the things he was trying to escape from, all the nasty things, suddenly become very clear, and all my pessimistic views suddenly become very clear. That is exactly how Ecstasy affected me — I had a great time for a while and then an absolutely awful time. So I stopped doing it. He tried coke once or twice and hated it. He also states he never took heroin and he never would, but there seemed to be all different types of heroin takers. For every one person who takes heroin and stops, there are ten people who take cocaine and never stop.

George said the night before Andrew left town, George poured his despairing heart out to his old partner in a long, booze-sodden session that George later described as an exorcism and Andrew as a confession. George should have been massively hung-over the next morning, he awoke with a clear head full of hope for his future, all his demons on the run, saved by an exorcism in Tinsel Town.

by Anonymousreply 570August 18, 2018 2:47 AM

Mark: 940 is where Andrew begins to discuss George.

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by Anonymousreply 571August 18, 2018 2:48 AM

George and Andrew really did seem to have a strong friendship. Andrew certainly never betrayed George in anyway. The same goes for Shirlie.

by Anonymousreply 572August 18, 2018 2:50 AM

[570] I wish George had surround himself with people who really cared for him. The first group of friends (Wham/Faith era) help to keep George on the right path. However, George chose the distance himself from them and allow all the users to become his main support. Starting with cousin of his then those escorts and Geri who use George to get in the papers. What a sad ending for someone who was such a talented and giving individual.

by Anonymousreply 573August 18, 2018 2:56 AM

R573 You are right. It is as if George was living 3 lives. His life with the friends he had most of his life, his Wham! days with his friends and when he officially came out he seemed to rebel in some strange way and hung out with people that wouldn’t quite fit in with his old friends. He seemed to lose his way. If he had been true to himself he might have been able read between the lines.

by Anonymousreply 574August 18, 2018 3:04 AM

GMs decline was a long and slow one. Starting around 1992 as Anselmo fell terminally ill and he himself said he took Sony on because of his pent up anger and frustrations. From 1993 itself he was on a slow and relentless path of self-destruction. The drug-taking intensified with him smoking the 25 spliffs a day. His mother's death and that depression and the LA arrest put him in deeper turmoil. He then moved to harder drugs in the 2000s. God knows how his brain got chemically affected with all the weed and drugs. In the early 2000s the escorts and porn stars started surrounding him. Slowly but surely he lost control. The slow and painful process lasted a good 25 yrs

As the poster above said he had many different faces. His friends saw the warm and compassionate George who would help them. Probably same with his family, But another face with the seedy escorts and friends with the out of control drug taking and sex orgies and hedonism. The fans saw the troubled genius with the sensitive soul image. He was many things to many people. But ultimately he was cheating himself and destroying his mind and health and paid the price for it with his life

by Anonymousreply 575August 18, 2018 5:12 AM

David Austin in a rare interview. David gives some insight regarding George.

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by Anonymousreply 576August 18, 2018 7:54 AM

R571 The 6 minute mark is when Andrew starts to talk about George above.

by Anonymousreply 577August 18, 2018 1:31 PM

R571 Have to say Andrew looks good with longer hair. He's always been hot, but god is he sexy in that....

by Anonymousreply 578August 18, 2018 8:11 PM

Any word on whether or not the escort has been kicked out of G's home yet?

by Anonymousreply 579August 22, 2018 3:22 PM

I just stopped by the ask the same thing.

And shouldn’t the will be in probate by now?

by Anonymousreply 580August 22, 2018 11:14 PM

RESIDENTS of Goring are to be asked whether they would support another summer party in memory of George Michael being held in the village.

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by Anonymousreply 581August 23, 2018 1:12 AM

^ What in insufferably long article. And the people who commented after it are mostly tone deaf. I hope and expect that as owners of the mill house, George’s family weighs in with a big NO. They will never be able to sell that place with annual pilgrimages and the like.

And it’s disgusting that people were messing up the Miller’s restrooms and not being paying customers.

The town only acme to my awareness via George and I honestly would like to go there to see what looks to be a quintessentially beautiful English country town (unless others can name something better) . And I would go to take it in from a tourist perspective. But these pilgrimages will tear over year attract an increasingly fringe group of people. Mostly Lonelies who continue to say the go because they are lovelies. George would be mortified for the town.

And btw, for that many people - raising just 10k for ChildLine is pitiful. While every dollar helps there are other ways of raising more than that. These idiots go for selfish reasons though so they won’t.

by Anonymousreply 582August 23, 2018 5:07 PM

They are busy posting twenty million pictures and recycled articles of George online and wondering why he has not been inducted into song writers hall of fame. They don't want to put in the work like donate to his favorite charities in his honor. All they do is bitch.

by Anonymousreply 583August 23, 2018 6:24 PM

This is all really due to the phenomenon of social media connecting lonely people together via a perceived common interest. It’s not about him anymore. Maybe one of them should start a go fund me page for ChildLine to reach a big target for his birthday and in his birthday go present it to ChildLine and invite some reporters. That would be far better. Then the next year it would be project angel food or one of his other loved charities. Each year a different charity and year long fundraising effort ending on or near his birthday with a cheque handover.

But no - they went because this about a bunch of oddballs now having a picnic together because they don’t do much else in their lives.

Not slamming people who might want to go somewhere he frequented to pay quiet respects but the party thing on his birthday is pure bullshit. George would likely be apologetic about them descending on a place where he kept such a low profile and that for the most part respected his right to peace as well.

by Anonymousreply 584August 23, 2018 9:07 PM

Those lonely middleaged women have nothing productive to do with lives than spam any thread related to gm with endless garbage. Those women are so dull and boring they turn an interesting thread into a bitching section to fill the void of dullness in their lives.

by Anonymousreply 585August 24, 2018 1:19 AM

[R583] and [R585] What are you doing for ChildLine? As much as I dislike the Lovelies, they are aiding in George’s memory. They volunteer their time and money to other charities that are dear to George heart. I just get tired of some of them trying to create this Kenny and George love story. What I do find strange is TomKats using George’s images to gain a profit. Tomkats sold calendars, shirts and necklace and gave the profit Macmillan Cancer Support. However, Tomkats gave a donation to Project Angle from the sell from her George Michael calendars. Tomkat posted that she gave $100.00 dollars to Project Angles. Hell that what I gave and I did not make any money from George’s images.

by Anonymousreply 586August 24, 2018 1:53 AM

the ultimate beard wannabe Geri (she wanted to marry George!) under fire for using polystyrene bodyboard on Cornwall beach

by Anonymousreply 587August 24, 2018 2:14 AM

The Fadi bitch is at it again. On FB posting that he has no respect for a man who committed suicide and he should rot in hell. At least now will these stupid GM fans stop supporting him. He wants George to rot in hell. He wasnt left money by him so he is cursing and damning him like this. That was the extent of his love for GM. The family should sue Fadi for slander for peddling this suicide story endlessly. They have the Coroner's report to back them up

by Anonymousreply 588August 24, 2018 2:20 AM

In the earlier topics Fadi Fuckwaz had so many fangirls in here LOL

by Anonymousreply 589August 24, 2018 2:22 AM

Fadi Fawaz - August 22 at 1:18 PM ·

Did you know ending your own life brings Shame on your name , your family,friends and makes you the most selfish cunt that deserve no respect no love and even not a kind word towards you and the only thing you deserve is burn in hell for ever. Amen

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by Anonymousreply 590August 24, 2018 2:36 AM

^ Only leeches who prey on vulnerable rich men for money and enable them will definitely rot in hell. Fuck Off Fadi

by Anonymousreply 591August 24, 2018 3:05 AM

R586 since you asked - I donate to it dickface. I don’t brag about it. So go fuck yourself. I’m also not an overweight over the hill frau like you probably are since you got so defensive.

by Anonymousreply 592August 24, 2018 3:09 AM

Exactly r591. It was clear he was vile but speaking of someone this way is a new low. George had such poor judgment at times. Then he was vulnerable.

The question remains: Why are they STILL allowing him to live there??????!!!!!!!!! why??????

All this time I have not heard one plausible reason.

by Anonymousreply 593August 24, 2018 3:19 AM

I’m not in his Facebook or twatter. Is there anyone still defending him in the comments when he makes posts like this?

by Anonymousreply 594August 24, 2018 3:24 AM

[R592] Who the fuck your trigger ass talking too. If you to damn immature to have a conversation then you need to log the fuck off. I know you never gave any money because you to stupid to talk to people so that lets me know you on SSI. You cant work, talk, nor function in the real world. That is why you take your crazy as to every GM discussion showing how dumb you really are. Getting upset cause you never made shit out of your life, who's fault is that. Being jealous of a dead man, its not George Michael's fault he went after his dreams and made it, Although he was on drug, but shoot he had a reason. Bitch, why are you on drugs? I know because of the voices you hear. You made because no one wants to fuck you, not even the ugly ones.

Why don't you get a life or a hobby. Better yet, go write those fan fiction about Kenny. By the way how's that museum/ foundation going. Is it still open?

Are you guys still trying to sue George's estate?

No, your waiting for Fadi to get his big cash fall right. That's right he lost so you and him have to relay on your SSI checks. our realize that you cant live the fantasy of being George Michael.

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by Anonymousreply 595August 24, 2018 4:51 AM

R595 🙄 Somebody’s off their anti-psychotic drugs.

by Anonymousreply 596August 24, 2018 5:19 AM

R595 is the poster thatposts non stop about what people are saying and doing on twitter and Facebook. Clearly one of the deranged lovelies that never gets laid. . Sometimes the posts r595 makes are lucid and sometimes they are completely fucked up. Like above.

by Anonymousreply 597August 24, 2018 5:24 AM

What’s an SSI? Is that some new drug?

by Anonymousreply 598August 24, 2018 5:26 AM

Fadi must have some real shit on George, or perhaps (and this would make a lot of sense) his sisters.

This really is the strangest celebrity death aftermath, isn't it? I really don't have much in the way of pity either, since this weird Arab hustler is somehow operating with immunity from the Estate (really what the fuck are they doing at all?) I always wait like two months before checking for news on George Michael, hoping that the strange former porn star from down under has been escorted off the premises, and we're getting a new Blu-ray of the Faith tour or some shit, but nah... just a bunch of headlines from the Daily Mail about said grifter lashing out on Twitter.

Meh. It's just all getting old at this point and I don't see the situation changing anytime soon.

by Anonymousreply 599August 24, 2018 7:12 AM

R590 Where does Fadi say in his Facebook post, that this is about GM? Looking at it from a neutral perspective, Fadi simply states his opinion about suicide in general. But of course, lovelies are not neutral and whatever Fadi says refers to GM and is "a message" to them or a threat to the family. I wonder when they will get tired of the drama they largely create themselves for the sake of "keeping GM legacy" or however they justify their artificial outrage on social media whenever Fadi only shows a sign of life.

by Anonymousreply 600August 24, 2018 10:15 AM
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