Chris Hardwick is ACCUSED!

geez, if hardwick did that shit, the cops should look into it, he prob did worse to other women....

She was bigger than him. She couldn’t beat him up?

Someone should beat you up, R2.

Was he drunk at the time?

god I hate controlling people like him. my daddy was like that. they need to fuk give people their god given freedom...

its against St Paul's teachings!

(burn in hell mr sessions..

[quote]Trigger warning: If abuse, sexual assault, or anorexia makes you uncomfortable, you might want to avoid this one.

Oh, god. A SJW.

Isn't it amazing that none of these idiot women take any responsibility for their own actions? They're completely infantile.

I had to Google this guy. He hosts a basic cable talk show? Really stretching the definition of "celebrity."

[quote]The first time I told him I loved him after 6 months of hoping he’d say it first, his response was (and I quote), “I think I love you too, f****t.”

Huh? Faggot? He called a woman a faggot? What?!

[quote]I had to Google this guy. He hosts a basic cable talk show? Really stretching the definition of "celebrity."

Uh, Nerdist, hon. He's HUGE.

fukin gold digga married a hearst gal....dam him

Her current partner (Robert Kazinski) looks like he could break Hardwick in half with one arm. I hope he treats her better than Hardwick did.

What the fuck were “her own actions,” MRA bootlicker @R7?

Hahaha. I hate Nerdist.

[quote]What the fuck were “her own actions,” MRA bootlicker @[R7]?

STAYING WITH HIM. Did he have her chained up? Don't pull that MRA bullshit with me, Tumblrena.

damn , she upgraded to a mighty fine man!

Yes Hardick is a cunt. he is hyper-controlling and a bore. He also seems like a complete fucking nerd star fucking.

This is awful news. I always thought Hardwick was a cutie, too.

R2 I really feel bad for her but was she born male?

R8, I remember him from House of 1000 Corpses. His character was annoying. Nasty "haircut" scene as well.

I love how she timed this right before Comic Con.

No, wait. She should have done this DURING Comic Con.

I love how Rob Kazinsky has an unverified Instagram account and only 9000 followers

Nah, posting this before Comic Con works because it's likely he won't even have a presence at the event.

I always used to think that Kazinksy and DL Fave Ben Barnes were boyfriends, they were shacked up together for so many years.

Have have no horse in this race but what am I missing? She clearly states "Our relationship started out poorly. Within 2 weeks, rules were quickly established". How in the world is her misery his fault? She knew with a clear head within 14 days who he was.

Eh. He sounds like a dick, but I’m not outraged or anything. It sounds like she went along with all of it.

[quote]"Our relationship started out poorly. Within 2 weeks, rules were quickly established". How in the world is her misery his fault?

Read the fucking story, asshole.

Every thread like this, there's people saying that acting like an abusive asshole is fine, it's the VICTIM who is the real problem, because they put up with it. Oddly you never see these people say "just stop putting up with theft and your stuff will never get stolen."

One million percent believe this. Hardwick is a total douchebag, tool follower.

Victim blaming is the default setting for DL trolls, especially when it’s a woman.

"How in the world is her misery his fault? She knew with a clear head within 14 days who he was."

She should have walked away from this situation right away.

Anyone with self-respect would have known better.

She was a girl with low self esteem and he was a sociopath. Happens every day.

R31 x 1000

[quote]Victim blaming is the default setting for DL trolls, especially when it’s a woman.

It's called personal responsibility. She was not his wife. They didn't have children. She has her own issues and is placing them on others. She needs to grow the fuck up. Furthermore, why should we believe anything she says? People like this make a mockery out of real victims of sexual assault.

[quote]Anyone with self-respect would have known better.

So you’re saying she got what she deserved because of a lack of “self-respect?”

[quote]Anyone with self-respect would have known better.

Stop talking sense. It's always someone else's fault. Let me air my dirty laundry to get press attention and fame. Call me when Hardwick raped her or blackmailed her or did anything to hold her against her will.

Will this ruin his career?

I think he is incredibly annoying.

[quote]So you’re saying she got what she deserved because of a lack of “self-respect?”

Not the OP, but this is not #MeToo. This is a chick who doesn't want to take any responsibility and is looking for attention. Not everyone has to know every detail of your messed up past relationships. He hurt your feelings. Tough shit. Deal with it. We all deal with assholes. This isn't sexual assault. Enough.

[quote]People like this make a mockery out of real victims of sexual assault.

There's only one mockery here.

he aint nice when the cam is off.

creep

No one is interested in your dating life. This generation shares way too much information about themselves. We don't care. This is no story here beyond gossip. She might as well have told us his dick size.

I've never liked this guy for some reason.

"Isn't it amazing that none of these idiot women take any responsibility for their own actions?"

Not surprising that the MRA couldn't bother reading the article. Because, of course, she writes: "And I made the choice to accept his controlling behavior, as he’d just left his long-term girlfriend and I assumed that he was going through some serious emotional discomfort. This was a huge mistake."

Because she was in love! That's the reason she put up with him, maybe she thought he'd change like a lot of people do. And I say people because this doesn't happen only in het relationships.

[quote] "And I made the choice to accept his controlling behavior, as he’d just left his long-term girlfriend and I assumed that he was going through some serious emotional discomfort. This was a huge mistake."

So what's the story? This isn't the public's business.

[quote]Because she was in love! That's the reason she put up with him, maybe she thought he'd change like a lot of people do. And I say people because this doesn't happen only in het relationships.

And if that were the case, THAT'S HER FUCKING FAULT. Pick up your building blocks and move on.

He's Patty Hearst's son in law

He's an asshole but this is nothing like the metoo stuff.

He's heterosexual??????

This will have zero effect on his career.

HIs fanbase is 99% nerds who never get women anyway.

And when they do, they think this is normal behavior for a guy.

R49, stop generalizing. I am a nerd and I used to crush on him hard, but not anymore. Plenty of women are nerds too. It’s not nerds defending him here, it’s MRAs.

[quote]No one is interested in your dating life.

Says the MRA responsible for a full 1/4 of the posts on this thread.

r50 why are you here?

People who you don't agree with are not automatically 'MRAs'.

Oh, great, we have the MRA-troll.

[quote]he clearly states "Our relationship started out poorly. Within 2 weeks, rules were quickly established".

[quote]The first time I told him I loved him after 6 months of hoping he’d say it first, his response was (and I quote), “I think I love you too, f****t.”

Hardwick may or may not be a epic-sized douchebag, but you have to ask who stays with someone after being treated like this.

After two weeks, you're hardly trapped in a relationship with anyone. TWO weeks? What kind of person with any self-respect stays with someone like that? Yeah, I'm going to blame the person who is stupid enough to see the HUGE warning signs and stays anyway.

It has nothing to do with being gay, straight, male, or female. If you're an adult, even with limited dating experience, you should have sufficient capacity to look at the situation and think to yourself that this isn't good. It should have been OBVIOUS to anyone with half a brain that this wasn't a good or healthy situation AFTER TWO WEEKS.

Unless you've been kidnapped or being held at gunpoint or being actively threatened with death, you're an idiot if you stay in a relationship after such a short period of time.

[quote]Hardwick may or may not be a epic-sized douchebag, but you have to ask who stays with someone after being treated like this.

If she's even telling the truth or the entire story.

Excellent. Can't stand his ass-kissing BS.

These kinds of borderline-celebrity #MeToo confessionals are catnip for self-dramatizing white girls who are desperate to be seen as brave victims.

Yawn, apparently some nobody got bashed by another nobody but decided to live in an abusive situation when she had the means of escape.

She also had low self esteem but loves taking selfies and is constantly in the public eye. Yep my heart bleeds.

[quote] Read the fucking story, asshole. Every thread like this, there's people saying that acting like an abusive asshole is fine, it's the VICTIM who is the real problem, because they put up with it. Oddly you never see these people say "just stop putting up with theft and your stuff will never get stolen."

I read every word. No where did I say his actions were acceptable. But she knew two weeks into dating who he was and she stayed. He didn't suddenly change a year into it and blindsided her. 2 fucking weeks of dating and she knew. Where is she a victim? SHE CHOSE TO STAY.

She chose to stay, which she herself acknowledges right there in the article. And is now warning others to not do the same and not ignore or excuse red flags. So,

He’s an asshole but she is a basket case. Sorry, but no.

Does this even count as abuse? He was a dick but she doesn't mention telling him she didn't like his "rules", she just went along with everything. Then she says it's sexual assault when she agreed to have sex with her boyfriend in order to keep him happy with the relationship. I'm not always in the mood when my partner is but I do it anyway for him, that's assault now??

The messing with her career thing is fucked up if true.

I find it hard to believe he wields such power he could get her blackballed.

When you've been seeing someone for two weeks, you're barely dating. If you decide you're incompatible, you move on.

R27, if you don’t want your stuff stolen, don’t let thieves into your home.

There’s a point where you stop being a victim and star being a volunteer. This woman with self-admitted “daddy issues” ALLOWED this dickbag to control her. After two weeks.

She lost me with her first sentence. You’re an adult not a kid in your early twenties.

In my early twenties, I was a vibrant, goofy kid who loved video games, Doctor Who, dressing up in cosplay with my friends, and karaoke nights.

Wow, R22, I love Rob Kazinsky. His Instagram is wonderful with all the doges.

I have sympathy for her if Hardwick treated her in such a crappy manner. But I have to say when you know from the onset of a relationship the person you're with is an asshole a rational person gets out of the relationship. If you don't, then you are partly to blame. Staying in a relationship where you're mistreated is a form of enabling. Enabling the abuser.

Many successful talk show hosts like Hardwick - Ellen DeGeneres, Jimmy Fallon, David Letterman, Rosie O'Donnell, Johnny Carson - have been known to be difficult, unhappy control freaks. This airing of dirty laundry really was revenge porn.

There is something cowardly about writing an accusatory public letter long after the event took place. The “me too” in this context is really poisonous, the ultimate in passive-aggressiveness.

I wonder if she ever addressed her grievances with him before spilling her guts to the public.

I hate people like her...people who think they can change their partner into a mirror image of themselves and when it doesn't work they get all bent out of shape.

People come in all shapes, sizes and personalities. Pick one that you don't have to shape into something more to your liking.

I kinda suspected he might be an asshole when I saw how hard he kissed up to that chubby jerk that created the Walking Dead even after he was revealed to be an asshole.

Had anyone ever heard of her before?

Rob Kazinsky had a brief flurry of roles but what is he doing these days?

Oooh--- Mental abuse! You poor child.

It kinda sucks that websites will run this kinda shit without even attempting to verify if even the slightest hint of any of this is true. I mean, if it is, he's a jackass but so what.

I agree with the posters who said get out after 2 weeks. Her dad is an Oscar winner- it's not like she was poor trash who moved out to Hollywood. She had resources, and chose to stay.

[quote]Many successful talk s how hosts like Hardwick....have been known to be difficult.

Let's not forget he started out as a standup comic. Comedians are miserable, insecure assholes.

Towards the end of her essay she writes that an apology would have gone a long way. I am curious too if she ever told him how she felt and asked for an apology.  But I have a feeling that even if he apologized to her she would still have written the piece.  Aziz Ansari apologized to his date afterwards their awkward date and she still called him out, roping him into the #MeToo pool as if what happened between them was the same as assault.

I believe her account. He's an abusive asshole but she's also an idiot. Both are true--there is no need to take anyone's side in this.

I'll bet he treats Lydia like gold.

omg her dad was one of the founders of Industrial Light and Magic

she wasn't some poor little mieskeit

I bet half of Hardwicks defenders on this site arent even fans of his. Hes too niche to be a big star. Its not like she dated George Clooney. They did the same with Wiensten who has NO fans, since hes not even an entertainer. Hardwick did abuse and mistreat this girl, and that's why he purposely chose her. He intended to do this all along. Abusers know how to select their victims. They find someone with crippled self esteem. Also when she left him, he did the ultimate abuser move: he tanked her career--same thing Weinstein did to his victims. You have to be a MASSIVE sociopath to do any of those things to a person, even an ex, and those defending him on here see themselves in him and are terrified of being exposed in their personal lives.

[quote]I bet half of Hardwicks defenders on this site arent even fans of his.

Of course not, it’s the same fixated bunch drawn to any thread about a woman taking a stance. Incels, MRAs, the He-Man Woman-hater’s club, and other assorted misogynists. I read some of these replies about “why didn’t she just LEAVE him” and “it was HER CHOICE to stay!” I wonder what their parents’ relationship was like. A lot of little boys watch their mom get abused by their dad and they grown up to blame all abused women for “not leaving.” A therapist would have a field day with just one of these loons.

2 weeks in she knew. She's a dumb cunt, even if he's an ass.

Thats the thing with sociopaths, R81. They have NO real emotions, so to them "love" is one-upmanship and domination. In fact all relationships are like that to them: romantic, business, platonic. They dont feel empathy or regard for another, so they arrogantly assume no one else does either. That all affection and regard for another in relationships is all for show. When that girl told Hardwick she loved him, he was probably baffled, which is why he called her a faggot. He donsnt know what love is, saying "I love you" to a sociopath is like saying "vbneio dfwb aidw". Its meaningless.

No, some of us have strong moms who wouldn't put up with any shit so we find it difficult to swallow the tale of abuse this scion of Hollywood is trying to peddle. Especially since we now know her father could have bought and sold Hardwick ten times over.

And yes, she dated him for TWO FUCKING WEEKS and then realized he was an asshole. At that point, you don't have any stakes in a relationship. Hell, it's not even a relationship, it's two people who have hung out a few times. So you just walk away.

So this isn't about the guy also known as Rusty Jeffers?

‘Scion of Hollywood’

What does being a fan or not have to do with this?  It would be one thing if it stayed only within the fandom media, but it's not.  Metoo brought stories like this mainstream and since it's out there anyone and everyone has a right to comment.  People are calling out the accuser in this case much like the Aziz Ansari account because it's bullshit.

I agree with the poster up thread who said two sets of variables are true:  he's an asshole and she's an idiot and this is what happens when the two meet and date.

It's the height of narcissism if you think that you can change the asshole that you willingly chose to date.

Oh, so you're just a fucking dick, R84. Got it.

I would sympathize if he snapped a year into dating but he was being controlling two weeks in? She’s a rich girl so financial support is ruled out. I’m glad she was enough of a moron to go along with it to eventually complain and bring down Hardwick, who is evil to his employees too, but sheesh

Yeah, I’m not feeling for her. If he was an asshole in their first two weeks and she decided to stay, that’s on her. And that is a move that defies all logic and reason. She’s not being honest. He’s not even hot. Then again, neither is she.

Couldn’t read the whole thing because she is whiny and what am I supposed to do? Say, “I’m sorry you have so little respect for yourself that you continued to stay with someone who did nothing but make you unhappy?” From the first paragraph on it’s nothing but complaints. If you were unhappy from Day One then that’s on you. Yeah, he’s controlling, but you’re the one who owns your mind and your body. Deal with it.

r81 Bullshit. No one is defending this guy. He's an ass. But she was in control of herself and whether or not she stayed and went along with it, even she says that.

HIS COLLAPSE IS COMPLETE

Hardly, no collapse. He has Ryan Seacrest clout with Hearst connections. Unless others come forward, this is a blip.

Manipulators rely on people feeling sorry for them to excuse sketchy behavior. From there, they keep pushing boundaries. Over time, their behavior becomes normalized.

Every single one of you has accepted egregious behavior as normal in some aspect of your life. A boyfriend who drives recklessly, a coworker who steals, a brother who takes advantage of your parents.

We all put up with these sorts of things; for some, they don't recognize appropriate boundaries, and they can easily wind up accepting really abusive behavior as normal.

I mean, look at how many of you don't blink twice at what Hardwick did. You accept it.

Hardwick comes off as a huge asshole. How could a corporation like Comcast choose him to be brand ambassador?

OMG I forgot about his Comcast deal. That's probably a goner.

How long will it take to get Hardwick's anguished apology?

Perhaps he could use those Hearst connections to fake news us into a ginned up war or get fake kidnapped by fake terrorists to distract from his #metoo moment

He just LOOKS unhealthy to me. You know what I mean?

The other day he had been announced as the moderator of the Dr.Who panel with the first female Who. I am sure that won't happen now.

Typical AA asshole. He stops drinking because he was a drunk and got offended that she ordered a glass of wine. Fuck him

All these liberal men are pigs.

What if she is lying though? I tend to believe women, but one accusation and BOOM career and life is over for these men.

Even if she is telling the truth, r104, so what. There are assholes in this world that people know enough to avoid. She knew two weeks into dating him that he was one to avoid, but she chose to stay.

She is an admitted anorexic. They tend to harbor a lot of rage in them.

Individuals with eating disorder are usually borderline personality disorder.

Does her pussy stink?

Wiped and also scrubbed.

I have to say for the record, this is NOT the Chris Hardwick I don’t know.

She may have “chosen to stay,” but Hardwick had no right to black list her, that’s despicable and he deserves whatever he gets.

I find the whole blacklisting accusation weird considering her father is well connected. Moreso than Harwick it would seem.

ah, that's too bad, I really liked some of his nerdist podcasts!

anyway, this is a very good reason to avoid relationships with large age gaps particularly if one partner is quite young. She was what 21? and he was pushing 40. Abusers choose to date young people people because they're easier to control and manipulate.

[quote]Abusers choose to date young people people because they're easier to control and manipulate.

He wasn't an abuser.

[quote]She may have “chosen to stay,” but Hardwick had no right to black list her, that’s despicable and he deserves whatever he gets.

Why are you automatically buying her story? Do you know who her father is?

R68 I've never heard that about Fallon.

I would never defend his behavior. He seems like a controlling dipshit. Gross and creepy. Weird as fuck. But as others have said ad naseum, she knew who he was from the get go. I get, and have empathy for, the fact she was an insecure girl with daddy issues and he certainly took advantage of that (either knowingly or not). But that's not a crime. And while she has every right to tell her story, I don't think he should have a ruined career over it (he's already been let go of Nerdist - something he created). What he SHOULD have is a stink around him so that no sane woman would ever date him again. But me gut is saying she knew his career would be over given the current climate.

I'm curious to hear if anyone else comes forward about him. He only treated her this way?

He dated actress Janet Varney before her but they still seem to be friendly but she also started as a stand up I think so she may be a bit nuts too.

Didn’t he try to ruin her career first, though?

Janet Varney's? If he did I don't know why she'd have anything to do with him now.

R80 I've never heard of either of them (so not supporting the hack Hardwick) but I'm sick and tired of stupid bitches that continually stay in abusive relationships and then whine and cry for their fifteen minutes of fame.

This isn't 1960 anymore, there are support groups, advice and help available for women in distress (and some men). Seriously deal with your shit and stop being a fucking doormat. At some point when these women refuse to leave then they deserve to get bashed. You can't help a stupid fool.

Where is the #RoseArmy here?

They seem to have move on from the DL since April or so.

EVERY thread this Winter and Spring was filled with MRA accusations on anyone who didn't 100% believe and support every single woman's claims against a man.

None of them in this thread!

The company dumped him super fast. They know him well.

Yeah the fact that they were so quick to distance themselves from him speaks volumes.

Maybe the company put a Chloe up to it in an attempt to get rid of him.

It’s what Alexis Colby would have done in the age of me too.

[Quote] Scott Weinberg @scottEweinberg As of today I no longer write for @nerdist. The editorial staff is absolutely fantastic but I don't want my work or name affiliated in any way with Chris Hardwick.

Based on how fast people are distancing themselves from Hardwick it sound like people know all about him and more will be coming out.

He was R115. Maybe you're ok with emotional abuse so you don't recognize it, but I'm not okay with.

She's just a jealous cunt. He moved on and married a Hearst. Cry baby cosplay got nothing.

[quote] I'm curious to hear if anyone else comes forward about him. He only treated her this way?

There are some women on Twitter -one an ex employee-- have tweeted that they have known him to be racist and a misogynist.

I didn't know that Bardwick separated from Nerdist in 2017 when his contract ended.

after the police investigate him he will wind up unemployed and in shame...

Investigated for what?

Investigate what? One bitch, who was so dumb she stayed after being unhappy the first 2 weeks?

[quote]There are some women on Twitter -one an ex employee-- have tweeted that they have known him to be racist and a misogynist.

One that screams cultural appropriation and how white people and white gays are horrible.

How did he treat female employees at his company? That's what the suits are worried about and if they will end up being liable for misdeeds they may have ignored/covered up.

Regardless of her being an idiot, this guy has always struck me as a huge douchebag.

I love the bullshit people come up with to give this asshole a free pass:

His victim was too rich to be abused

Her father was too famous for her to be abused.

She acted stupidly, therefor he was well within his rights to abuse her.

And that perennial favorite: she should have kept quiet about the abuse because it could damage his career. WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE POOR ABUSERS!

Most people on this sight haven't said anything near to what your espousing, R139. Almost everyone is saying that he's a douchebag, creep, jerk. But that he basically told her as such from the get go. And she made the choice to stay. No one is absolving him. Or most people aren't. But she needs to take some responsibility for allowing herself to get involved with a man that she knew, again, from the get go was a creep. Any sane person would have run for the hills if someone gave them those "rules" two weeks into a relationship. She chose not to. I don't get why that means any of us are on the side of an abuser?

I’m glad she’s speaking out even if everyone is judging her

I'm glad his creepy smug self with the perma-scruff is getting dropped from things.

Hope it gets worse for him! Douche!

She put up with his shit because he had some money and fame. It's so obvious.

"But she needs to take responsibility!"

Um, SHE DID. Right there in the article. She states clearly she chose to remain in the relationship and that it was a mistake.

She wrote the article to get closure AND to tell others to learn from her MISTAKE.

If you could resist the knee-jerk need to bash the nearest woman, you might have noticed.

"Most people on this sight (sic) haven't said anything near to what your espousing, [R139]. "

Well, here is some of what I read on this thread, r139:

Isn't it amazing that none of these idiot women take any responsibility for their own actions? They're completely infantile.

Her dad is an Oscar winner- it's not like she was poor trash who moved out to Hollywood. She had resources, and chose to stay.

Does her pussy stink?

She's just a jealous cunt. He moved on and married a Hearst. Cry baby cosplay got nothing.

Investigate what? One bitch, who was so dumb she stayed after being unhappy the first 2 weeks?

I really feel bad for her but was she born male?

I hate people like her...people who think they can change their partner into a mirror image of themselves and when it doesn't work they get all bent out of shape.

People are calling out the accuser in this case much like the Aziz Ansari account because it's bullshit. Even if she is telling the truth, r104, so what

He sounds like a dick, but I’m not outraged or anything. if you don’t want your stuff stolen, don’t let thieves into your home.There’s a point where you stop being a victim and star being a volunteer.

Oh, god. A SJW. It's always someone else's fault. Let me air my dirty laundry to get press attention and fame. Call me when Hardwick raped her or blackmailed her or did anything to hold her against her will.

this is not #MeToo. This is a chick who doesn't want to take any responsibility and is looking for attention

This is no story here beyond gossip. She might as well have told us his dick size.

THAT'S HER FUCKING FAULT. Pick up your building blocks and move on.

He wasn't an abuser.

How in the world is her misery his fault? Where is she a victim? SHE CHOSE TO STAY.

These kinds of borderline-celebrity #MeToo confessionals are catnip for self-dramatizing white girls who are desperate to be seen as brave victims.

I'm sick and tired of stupid bitches that continually stay in abusive relationships and then whine and cry for their fifteen minutes of fame.

She lost me with her first sentence. You’re an adult not a kid in your early twenties.

There is something cowardly about writing an accusatory public letter long after the event took place. The “me too” in this context is really poisonous, the ultimate in passive-aggressiveness.

He's always struck me as the het Andy Cohen — shallow, thirsty, desperate — mixed with some Ty Pennington meth-mania.

I tried to watch some of his "Breaking Bad" aftershows ... he did all the talking while the poor guests sat on the couch looking incredibly uncomfortable.

What about when he throws the green balls down the plinko board and colored people win money? He jumps up and down in his tiny lil suit and he seems so happy for the colored people/ and or school teachers. He seems so sad if a red ball lands on a big number and all the money goes away. He's good at asking questions and sneering at dumb answers while pretending to smile. I think he may be the next Pat Sajak.

I don't care how bad he was- 2 weeks? That's barely dating. She's a dumb cunt who deserves what she got. How star-struck could she have been? I guess daddy never took her to work.

^^^ incel

R149 ^ idiot

R145, she dated someone she knew was an asshole. Stayed in the relationship after knowing he was an asshole after the second week of dating. And you are getting all bent out of shape and cherry picking quotes because people are calling her out. So far she's the only girlfriend to have issue with him. It seems like they brought out the worst in each other.

Apparently now, incel is the new misogyny.

He can be a jackass and she can still be an idiot.

And using sex as a tool to keep someone from dumping you is not abuse on that other person's part.

She's from a very wealthy family, genius r143.

The new misogyny is like the old misogyny except now instead of just accusing someone of hating women, they throw in "white" too, so it's about race as well. Thus increasing the intersection victim points!

[quote]EVERY thread this Winter and Spring was filled with MRA accusations on anyone who didn't 100% believe and support every single woman's claims against a man.

Strong words from the guy who jibbers about Gap playlists in unrelated threads.

The idiot redditbro straights who come here to push their MRA crap have been here longer than you, and they're easy to spot because they always say the same things about how the woman is a stupid cunt liar golddigger whore trying to take men down out of revenge. If someone like that gets called an "MRA" on DL, why do you care? How does that offend your delicate sensibilities?

The trolls who immediately accuse anyone of being incels or an MRA person at the first suggestion of disagreement are insidious and bullying and will often flood threads like this with name-calling responses in an attempt to squelch dissent. It's very Twitter/Tumblr harassment tactics. The best way to deal with them is to F&F and ignore.

Was he cut and hung? This bitch left out the important details!

Anyone who thinks "go away, MRAs" is bullying but "she's a lying cunt who brought this on herself" isn't is truly fucked in the head.

When did DLers get such big sads over name-calling? You're constantly calling each other and celebrities names and making nasty accusations, but someone says "MRA" and suddenly you have to organize a protest against them for hate speech. Give me a break.

More, more!

ComicBook.com: People Are Calling for Yvette Nicole Brown to Replace Chris Hardwick as Host of ‘Talking Dead’

[quote]Huh? F*ggot? He called a woman a f*ggot? What?!

For someone acting like they know it all, you sure don't know much.

A while back it was the height of hilarity in the nerd community to call someone who showed emotion a "f*g." Yes, even women.

He is going to have to respond, but has any male effectively responded to a #metoo and come out of it being believed? Takei's accuser rolled back some comments a year later, which was reported as a repeal (but wasn't). She is dozens of Nerdist podcasts intro,traveling the country with Hardwick. We don't know how a couple acts in private, this just seems discordant with her AND his presentation of their relationship during those years.

Ladies, this is what a real life Christian Grey is! Every minute of your life being controlled, not so sexy, huh?

I believe her account and Hardwick sounds like a total dick -BUT- she also seems like the kind of woman for whom a bad boyfriend is worse than no boyfriend at all. Notice she doesn't actually break it off with him until another guy is lined up.

And Rob Kazinsky, her current boyfriend "knight in shining armour"? He was fired from EastEnders for stalking a model and bombarding her with obscene messages. She's gone from one controlling jerk to another.

So will every D list celebrity now smear their exes for attention? It is one thing if he physically abused her and raped her and others, but just sounds like he was a jerky guy and she has no self esteem. She even states she knew early on in the relationship he was a jerk. This is as bad as the Aziz what his name bad date confession.

That "starfishing" thing sounds like rape to me, but I know you don't agree, Whoopi.

Did Patty insist he sign a prenup?

I guess no Singled Out reboot?

HIs PR people are really slow.

This loudmouth cunt knew the climate when she wrote this. of course people are going to distance themselves from the accused without even investigating, because people are pussies. This is a bullshit accusation and does nothing but water down whatever yawn inducing movement the Brie Larsons of the world are trying to push. If just one time people would stand up and say- Yeah, honey... not so fast. So what?, you'd see a lot less of this. It's a fucking trend, nothing more. A fidget spinner. Unfortunately, it's playing with people's lives and livelihoods. But there will be a huge backlash and we'll all laugh.

How many stealth straight guys we got on this site?

It's interesting that none of his other ex-girlfriends tweeted support for Dykstra.

Are they tweeting support for him?

r169 look at what happened with Lena Dunham when she supported a friend who was accused. She was dragged through social media and had to issue an apology. People don't want to speak up even though they may know the truth or what they believe to be true.

Jenny McCarthy tweeted a thank you to him before the news broke, r172. And I wouldn't expect anyone to tweet support for him in this environment. As R173 noted supporters get torn apart by the angry hordes on social media. I think the lack of support for Dykstra says something.

[quote] [R169] look at what happened with Lena Dunham when she supported a friend who was accused. She was dragged through social media and had to issue an apology. People don't want to speak up even though they may know the truth or what they believe to be true.

I totally hear you. But I'm not even saying for them to support him. It would just be nice (no, it would be fair and just and right) for the places he's worked for to take a step back and issue a non-committal statement to the effect of- We'll take a look at the situation and if we feel any action is warranted we'll take it. 9 times out of 10 shit like this (and the Aziz Ansari matter, etc.) die down because the twitterverse has the attention span of a gnat and something juicier is always on the horizon. But when you make sweeping decisions that will end someone's livelihood and career without any sort of proof or investigation or even taking the appearance of time to look into it- that's just mob rule and it's bullshit.

R27, a better analogy is: just stop leaving your house unlucked, with a sign saying "merchandize inside," and you won't get robbed.

WTF with all this naivete? His company, coworkers, etc. taking such swift action most likely means they either know or strongly suspect it's true and/or more accusers are coming. She has receipts, witnesses, something. And since they worked together for so long, his coworkers probably know what those receipts are. They are getting ahead of the story. It's Friday. These people know how news cycles work. They could have easily waited it out a few days if there was any doubt in their minds. By Monday this would be a dead story if she's the only accuser. They know she's not and/or they know she's got more than just her word for proof.

Isn’t he the creep who used to do dinner theater with Mark Fuhrman?

Oh horse cock, R177. People are such fraidy cats with the fucking internet lynch mobs at the ready that they shoot first and ask questions later. If an SJW tumblrina tells another SJW tumblrina- We're going after AMC, they don't stop and ask why- they just do it. No one needs proof anymore. Trust me, AMC and Nerdist have nothing on Hardwick.

Horseshit, R179. There have been several people who were accused and nothing came of it. Ansari, Takei (which turned out to be false), Morgan Freeman, Michael Douglas, Stan Lee, even fucking Scott Baio.

[quote] Chris Hardwick Wiped From Nerdist Website He Founded Amid Allegations By Ex-Girlfriend

Becoming an Unperson is a common punishment meted out to political undesirables.

179 just sounds like Trump.

Hardwick responds. To TMZ--seriously?

Hardwick tells TMZ ... "I was heartbroken to read Chloe's post. Our three year relationship was not perfect -- we were ultimately not a good match and argued -- even shouted at each other -- but I loved her, and did my best to uplift and support her as a partner and companion in any way and at no time did I sexually assault her."

He continues, "When we were living together, I found out that Chloe cheated on me, and I ended the relationship. For several week after we broke up, she asked me to get back together with me and even told me she wanted to have kids with me, 'build a life' with me and told me that I was 'the one,' but I did not want to be with someone who was unfaithful.

I'm devastated to read that she is now accusing me of conduct that did not occur. I was blindsided by her post and always wanted the best for her. As a husband, a son, and future father, I do not condone any kind of mistreatment of women."

Yes, and several people who were accused who did have their careers impacted where NOTHING CAME OF THE ACCUSATIONS. Casey Affleck, James Franco, Nev Schulman, Charlie Walk, Peter Martins, AL FRANKEN. Christ, even the head of NARAS was thrown out for making a comment about female musicians that was hardly incendiary.

And Morgan Freeman's Visa campaign was canceled.

I would say the only fair treatment accorded anyone was that AMPAS to its President John Bailey. Instead of firing him, they conducted an investigation, found no merit to the claims and kept him on. But that's definitely the exception. And as for Aziz Ansari, there was nothing TO investigate. That article was such a fucking joke that only the shriekiest of twitter loons (and everyone who works at Jezebel) could have taken it seriously.

R183 he probably made a deal with them. He'll give them "exclusive" info and in exchange their coverage have a sympathetic tone.

^will

The jury is still out for Aziz Ansari. He did a few stand up shows in NY that weren't well received.

Well whats he gonna say?? "Yeah, I did all that"

It's not a great reply. Almost like he crafted it himself.

[QUOTE] The jury is still out for Aziz Ansari. He did a few stand up shows in NY that weren't well received.

Maybe it has more to do with the fact that he's an unfunny, irritating asshole

Wonder if she's going to make good now on pulling out the receipts she claimed to have in her original statement. Or maybe he'll just pay her to go away?

Aziz's problem is that his nice guy persona was critical to his career since his show blurred the lines between the real Aziz and his TV role. Not a criminal but also not a nice guy.

It's a good reply. Makes her come across unhinged, especially when taken with her own admissions of anorexia and knowing after two weeks he was a jerk.

While I agree that he's not funny, r190, it wasn't the comedy. His shows were unannounced. One NY paper posted tweets that were like this would have been cool last year but now it's like "oh".

Aziz is a bad guy! He poured me a glass of red wine. I wanted white wine!

His reply is TEXTBOOK ABUSER. It’s shockingky obvious. If some of you didn't believe her before, his statement should prove it to you. He’s a gaslighting creep.

I believe her. The fact that his statement brings up her "cheating and wanted to get back together" is classic abuser bullshit. He's a dick and couldn't craft a response that didn't include a knife twist. He's got a brand to protect. I bet he's having such a tantrum right now.

It's hard to believe a PR team crafted that statement. It sounds like he wrote it.

But she did cheat. It was in her own blog post. She didn't leave Hardwick until she lined up another boyfriend. Not exactly normal.

so he gots where he got cause o his big cock and not talent

is that so mean?

YES

MARY

YES

Lol that he responded to TMZ, like the true starfucker he is.

It doesn't matter if she cheated. That's old-fashioned thinking. No, the network execs can't be happy with that statement. I think he has deep-sixed his show.

Regarding the excerpt at R183 he should have left out the middle paragraph which only speaks to those still living in the 1950s.

Well tell that to the people unthread who said the cheating accusation is gaslighting, r201. She did cheat, it's not gaslighting. If they can pull the gaslighting accusation out of their assess then I can remind them that she did cheat on him.

"She did cheat."

Well then, she deserved whatever she got!

Hi R198, after 3 years of abuse and a shitty relationship, kissing someone else at the tail end of that isn’t “cheating”. Plus. He’s making it up that he ever cared about her even if she did cheat.

R198 About half the people I knew in my twenties would do that. Some people can't leave a relationship unless they have someone waiting in the wings. Men do it, women do it, gays do it and straights do it. It's not my way, but I wouldn't call it abnormal since it's so common. Some people in bad relationships come to believe that no one else will want them. Getting attention from a new person lets them know that they can get someone else. Some people just don't want to give up the regular sex unless they've got a replacement.

Yeah, this guy sucks. So many men do in the privacy of their own relationships.

Let's see...first she says she knew after two weeks he was a jerk. Then after a few months she lost her hair and then became anorexic. Then she became afraid to talk. Then she becomes pregnant. Then she cheats in order to leave him.

I'm beginning to think she wasn't blackballed as much as he made it know that he doesn't want to work with her again because she's unhinged.

Who is this guy?

Robert Kazinsky‏ @RobertKazinsky

As @hardwick has chosen to deny Chloe’s account, I’ll take the opportunity to say I have seen the proof myself, I have seen the evidence first hand, I’ve seen the people who have come forward to tell @skydart how Chris ordered her blacklisted, there isn’t just one, there are many

A lot of his former coworkers are coming out in support of her. One called him racist.

Everybody gets called "racist". The all-purpose insult to slam the door on even the possibility of response or defense. Kind of like claiming being "hacked".

A woman who is called a starfish during sex is usually called that by straight men. It's hetero guys' coded way of telling their friends that a woman they had sex with just laid in bed and "allowed" sex to happen without being involved or participating in any way shape or form.

He only wanted the best for her, but tried to make sure she couldn't work?

Any man who is THAT controlling in bed isn't going to be a fun lay. Herr Director. 'Put your left leg behind your head then pat your belly and rub my head. No, the other head, faggot.' What a catch. Not surprising because he's a drunk. Sober now but one can imagine him as a mean mouthed lush. After the engagement to the Hearst he would mention his fiancé on every TDD. And then end the show with 'be good to each other'. Flaming hypocrite. The Starfish thing sounds Cosbyesque.

Yeah the new boyfriend sounds like the knight in shining armour, who will go to battle for her while she lies helpless on the fainting couch. He's also getting some publicity out of this.

His response was definitely not PR approved, he must really be angry (although who can blame him).

She published on Medium likely because she couldn't get even a shit website like Babe to post it.

I always thought Chris Hardwick was gay.

Hardwick isn't gay, he just hates women.

He never pinged to me. I always thought he had some deeply painful self hatred going on.

[quote]I had to Google this guy. He hosts a basic cable talk show? Really stretching the definition of "celebrity."

He’s been around for a while. It’s an appropriate reference...

[quote]I always used to think that Kazinksy and DL Fave Ben Barnes were boyfriends, they were shacked up together for so many years.

[quote]I always thought Chris Hardwick was gay.

Yeah...something tells me this happens to you both fairly often.

Wasn't this guy a spokesman for Comcast recently? Figures, a dirtbag representing a dirtbag organization.

Straight Frau here.

OK. I dated two men like this.

The first time, I was very young and about 15 lbs overweight, but pretty. He was 23 years older, a successful doctor, and was very intelligent, and sober. Also quite funny. Oh, and very handsome, which this Chris Hardwick dude is NOT.

Anyhow, he immediately became obsessed with my weight. He got me a gym membership and a personal trainer, which I liked, and monitored everything I ate. He even ordered for me at restaurants. He bought me all of my clothes (really beautiful stuff -at least he had excellent taste), and took me everywhere with him. We traveled, stayed at the best hotels, erc.

He wasn’t condescending or verbally abusive, but he was very controlling. I’d complain, and he’d say stuff like I was living a much better life as a result of him, and in many ways, I was. I held a job, and still hung out with my friends.

He was AWFUL in bed. Eventually, I couldn’t deal with things in the bedroom anymore, and I wanted out, which he sensed, and proposed. I dumped him right after the proposal, and started dating again.

My mother still gives me shit about not having married him. Had I married him, I’d be a miserable frau, married to a man who is now a hardcore conservative, born again Christian, (he was a liberal when we were together - I guess the more money you make, the more your taxes, err.. I mean VALUES change) with 2 or 3 kids, living in a mansion in Calabasas, like he and his current wife, who I am actually quite friendly with.

There was a lot of money and access offered by being with this man. He did love me and said so often, and I preferred him to actors and musicians. But I couldn’t put up with the micromanagement of food and exercising, and no way with the bad sex.

I dated lots after we broke up, and no, I didn’t keep the absolutely GORGEOUS engagement ring.

Now, the second guy sounds JUST like this asshole. He was very verbally, and emotionally abusive. He cheated on me, called me names, dismissed my ideas, dismissed my feelings, gaslighted me day and night, and when I threw him out of MY house, he went to all of my friends to talk major shit. None of it true. I threw him out within three days of moving in. He said he’d change, and two months later, I’d had it. Yes, theee days of living together was all it took for the mask to start slipping off.

That relationship really fucked with my self esteem. It was short, but highly toxic, and I was PISSED that I was conned into believing this asshole cared about me, when he was nothing but a fucking loser, who was also HORRIBLE in bed, and who actually had hit the jackpot when he met me.

I’m not sure why this young lady went public with her story. The man sounds like a complete piece of shit, and I’m happy she’s away from him. And even though I am quite aware of who he is and what he does, I really couldn’t give two shits about Chris Hardwick. He’s not Harvey Weinstein, or Brad Pitt, or Woody Allen. People are interested in the fuck up by the truly rich and famous, not some ugly nerd who never even filmed a good movie. Sorry, but it’s true.

Her story is one of a young lady who has anorexia, who linked up with an extremely controlling man, which was just an extension of her disease. I’ve seen other women with anorexia do this. Not surprised at all, whatsoever.

I hope she’s healing. Hardwick sounds like a fucking idiot who is also a bad lay. Controlling men are always bad lays. Always. Wanna get fucked by someone who cannot have fun while fully clothed? Fuck a controlling man. Shittiest fuck you will ever have. Guaranteed.

Will this make him start drinking again?

[quote]Oddly you never see these people say "just stop putting up with theft and your stuff will never get stolen."

You never see people write that because that’s the stupidest fucking analogy I’ve ever seen.

How do you “stop putting up with theft”?

If someone is abusive to you, physically, mentally, or otherwise, you have the option of leaving, you ass. You don’t have the option of deciding whether you’re going to be a victim of a robbery or theft. You’re an idiot.

In my observations over 6+ decades I've found that most women who allow themselves to be controlled by some man want to be controlled by some man. It's not until they reach a certain level of misery that they're willing to put a stop to it. Some never put a stop to it no matter how bad it gets. Yes, there are some women (and some men) who have such low self respect that they think if they're being mistreated it's because they deserve to be mistreated. Then there are the ones who get off on being treated like crap. That's a whole different ball o' wax.

The missing story with so many of these men--Hardwick and Casey Affleck come to mind--is that they are ADDICTS. I am not excusing the behavior at all, but that piece of the story is missing. Go find Hardwick's interview (an episode of The Nerdist, I believe) with Dr. Drew and it's clear that the guy is a major alcoholic and was a fucking mess before he got sober. Not just "stopped drinking," but SOBER. Same with Affleck--you read between the lines of his interviews and it's really clear he was completely fucked up when he hit on those women. He got sober and that shit stopped. I wish the media would include that piece of the story. It's very key to these men's behaviors.

Sorry for her..but FUCK HIM!!!

I've always hated him. His voice, appearance., demeanor. I've never been able to put my finger on it, but he's just one of those celebrities who bring out this hatred from me. Just seems so phony.

The guy isn’t a celeb. He’s the CEO of his own company, and runs a podcast. I had my own company, and I was the CEO, because it was MY company. I got tired of running my own company, and closed up shop, because the business climate drastically changed, and I was able to forecast that I would not benefit financially, had I continued, so I closed up shop, and wisely so.

He’s a CEO with a successful venture, and a podcast. By no means does this make him a celebrity. I wouldn’t recognize him if I were to pass him on the street.

The man picks women with extremely low self esteem, and “issues “, such as anorexia, because he has problems with his cock. Period. End of.

EVERY man that I’ve met who ends up being an abusive asshole has either a deformed dick, a small dick, a long but very thin dick, or erectile dysfunction.

I can practically guarantee you all that this dude has penis problems. He may also be deeply closeted to even himself.

Lots of women out there do not fully appreciate how deeply insecure a man becomes if he has something wrong with his dick. I myself, see it as a problem that isn’t widely discussed. Many of these Incels probably have tiny dicks.

A very wise friend once told me that lots of guys who insist on dating VERY skinny women, do so because they have small peckers. I dunno, but it kinda makes sense to me. It doesn’t make sense logically or anatomically, because a woman’s body fat index is in no way indicative of the width or length of her vaginal canal, but I can see how it makes sense to men who go for this type.

By the way, I also understand that not all men with small dicks are abusive, so I am NOT generalizing.

r170 awwww are the mean gays not behaving exactly how you'd want, with the opinions you'd like to hear.

Now anyone who has no time for your histrionic bullshit is a 'stealth straight', an 'MRA', or an 'incel'

Fuck off

[quote] who was also HORRIBLE in bed

Always leaves a nasty taste seeing hetero women use this to attack het men with.

Straight women literally just have to lay there, that's all they need do, all the onus and pressure to perform is put on the straight man to do everything to please them and still they come out with this nasty shit.

Oh, I know some of the guys talkin are gay, R227. But there are also enough straight guys here attracted by the format of this site. Some of them have no use for gays but like this site anyway.

Try to be less angry, R227. Your histrionic ramblings can't be helping you.

He used to talk shit about his ex on @midnight until I'm assuming he got notes from his bosses that it sounded bitter and misogynistic. Which is what all the dbags defending him on this thread sound like too.

[quote] But there are also enough straight guys here attracted by the format of this site

Considering you have to visit the site every day for two weeks or so before it lets you post here, I very much doubt there are many straight men on here.

Lots of straight women though annoyingly....

[quote]He’s a CEO with a successful venture, and a podcast. By no means does this make him a celebrity.

You people have really got to stop pulling the, “if I don’t know him, he’s not a celeb/famous” card.

If you watched “Singled Out” in the 90s like most teens did on MTV you know him. If you watch “The Walking Dead” after shows, you know him. That’s ignoring his podcast entirely. Plus he has done a ton of other shows and stand up but YOU don’t know him so he isn’t a celeb? No, that’s not how that works. You’ve just never been part of the target audience of anything he has done.

I can’t tell you a film that Francis Farmer, Hedda Hopper or James Dean have been in so they’re not famous and they never were celebs!

I read his book years ago and he decided that half of it would be about his health and fitness regimen but he came off like an asshole through most of it. His addiction issues were explained well so I can’t imagine anyone wouldn’t see a flashing red light as soon as they approached him.

I am glad she admitted that she could have left but the blacklisting is extremely bad.

[quote] Straight women literally just have to lay there, that's all they need do, all the onus and pressure to perform is put on the straight man to do everything to please them and still they come out with this nasty shit.

This is so ridiculous it reads like a parody post of a typical, straight-man worshipping DL queen jealous of women for getting straight dick. But it's all too serious.

despise stars (?) like him who are bullys

his career is ovr

r233 Fucks like an ironing board

Hope some of the big wigs he sukd on the way up come forward and tell all

yesssss

R233, R228 is probably a “straight “ incel, who doesn’t get laid, or is a shitty lay. Gay men have almost zero motivation for making a statement like that.

You know when women “just lay there”? When they’re sexually inexperienced, and have no idea what they’re doing OR when she’s dating or married a controlling asshole, who doesn’t know how to fuck, and therefore, she just wants it done and over with.

This might also apply to women who have suffered from sexual abuse as children and/or teens. If that’s the case, the young woman needs to be in therapy and with an EXTRA caring, patient, and sensitive partner.

Women do not just lay there like cold fish when they are with someone who they love, trust, and respect. Women are quite active in the bedroom, and I, for one, LOVE sex, and have lots of fun fucking my partner.

If a woman is not assertive with you in the bedroom due to inexperience, lovingly show her what you like. Also, make sure you ask her what SHE likes.

If she’s not responding to you sexually, there is something wrong in the relationship, or you actually are a HORRIBLE lay, and she either doesn’t have the heart to tell you, or she’s afraid to tell you because she does not trust you, and is afraid of YOU.

R228, go and learn how to fuck, or just fuck off.

I absolutely believe her, but she’s a huge mess who deliberately stayed with him. She was forced to go on camera to have an entertainment career? Give me a break. Hardwick is definitely an abusive asshole, no doubt. Isn’t he married now?

f237 No one cares about that shit here fishy, take it, and yourself elsewhere.

👉 👉 👉

r237

R237

He sounds like a lying asshole in his statement about her begging him to take her back. This still isn't metoo though. Agreeing to have sex to preserve the relationship was her choice, that isn't assault ffs.

[quote]Now anyone who has no time for your histrionic bullshit is a 'stealth straight', an 'MRA', or an 'incel'

....

[quote]r228 is probably a “straight “ incel, who doesn’t get laid

Incredible

and then this gem:

[quote]Gay men have almost zero motivation for making a statement like that.

Who the fuck are you to come here and lecture us about the things we would and would not say.... get the fuck out of here.

The fucking entitlement of these cunts on here amazes me more every day

Xanax.

I have never been with a woman but I have a vivid and very creative imagination and many of my favorite fantasies involve girl on girl sex. To me, that is the key to having a good sex life. An unbridled imagination and learning how to love yourself first. And good communication. I can't imagine not being a full on participant in any sexual encounter and anyone who wanted that would be a one and done. But that's just me. If she put up with that for YEARS then it wasn't love. She was there for what he could do for her. Not getting off was the price she paid. Or maybe she did get off. At first. She gave up all of her friends for him? Then it was because he was introducing her to people who could do more for her. As another poster said, something is MISSING from this story. I hope she has found someone who can love her for her and help her heal but Kazinsky has his OWN skeletons when it comes to women. He was the next new big deal leading up to his appearance on True Blood but the show had the opposite effect on his career and has floundered since then. Maybe they have helped each other. Good for them.

Her dad was a founder of Industrial Light and Magic. Chris was pretty much a nobody when they met. Then he moved on to Lydia Hearst (Fobes family list worth $35 billion). He sounds like the user.

He's set for life no matter what happens.

A fame obsessed user. I'm glad she called him out. He's been talking shit about his ex for years it wasn't like she was anonymous.

Money goes pretty fast when you are paying $200k a year in property taxes alone. He better pray that Lydia doesn't dump his scrawny ass.

[Quote] He's set for life no matter what happens.

Right. People only strive to be a successful celebrity for the money.

He couldn't care less about being the most famous geek in the world.

All of the attention, the shows, the series... none of it matters to him and never did. He's set for life.

I do believe her story, but are we at a point in society where we think someone should lose their job because they're a shitty boyfriend? The only thing he didnthat should be objectionable to an employer is the blacklisting.

1. He hasn't lost his job.

2. He's not a regular Joe with a regular job.

3. Likeability is a requirement for the very specialized job that he has CHOSEN to do. If he did/does something to fuck up his own likeability score then that is his problem. In his line of work, he always knew this pitfall existed.

This whole thing certainly has a whiff of the 1950s communist witch hunts,or the 1980s child molestation hysteria,doesnt it? I have a real problem with a simple accusation now being enough to ruin lives,just like in the 50s and 80s. I devoutly wish some of these men would sue these bitches into oblivion,then maybe they would stop with the "me too" crap. Every goddamn one of us has dated an asshole,thats how you LEARN not to !

He didn't have the right to blacklist her from employment.

I agree with r253. This has completely gone overboard.

And yet, you have zero problem with him ruining her employment opportunities for having the nerve to break up with him?

I only know him from Talking Dead and that bad game show, but anyone can do those jobs.

Advertisers don't want to be associated with someone who at best, was a pig.

The blacklisting thing is the really creepy behavior.

The rest seems like she's taking a bad relationship and trying to reframe it as her metoo moment. If you choose to have sex with your partner despite the fact you weren't in the mood, that's your choice. It isn't assault, particularly when you say you did it so that the relationship would continue!

it sounds like he might be a douche, but she's lost a lot of credibility by framing herself as a victim rather than as someone who chose to stay with a bad boyfriend.

Actually, I didn't need her story to think of him as an asshole. I just needed to watch one of his obsequious, fawning interviews on one of his after show gigs.

Lol, I love trolling the straight male worshipping gays. And if they're actually straight men, that's even better.

He's fug and a pocket straight.

I'd like proof of the blacklisting. I find it hard to believe that Chris Hardwick has better connections than her father.

I’ve only seen Hardwick on the Talking Dead. To me, he comes across as insecure, ingratiating and a big fan of the show. I don’t get the creepy, asshole, sociopathic vibe some of you are referring to. Did those traits come out in his podcasts?

Also, I think r175 makes some good points.

The product that Hardwick is selling is himself so it's up to him to live up to the product description that he put out there. The public has much more access these days to info about celebrities and now they want better celebrities. Why shouldn't the public get what they want? Why does some viewer have to pretend this guy isn't a dick? There is no need for that.

Hardwick is a defective product. Let Hollywood go out and get a better replacement. Get someone who is genuinely nice, better looking and genuinely talented instead of lazily pushing this fuckup just because he weaseled his way in there.

I haven't heard many (or any) of his co-workers or friends coming to his defense on social media. Still nothing from his former roommate and bestie Will Wheaton.

I just watched one of his videos. What a dweeb. I’ve never been into his podcast, but he’s comes off douchey on camera.

He’s an asshole. And if he DID make it hard for her to be hired after this breakup, then he deserves to be called out on that alone.

I don’t define this as assault, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t abusive to her, or that she’s lying.

Totally ageee with R263.

Nobody is going to publicly support him, r264. Not after what happened to Lena Dunham when after she supported an "abuser". Mob rule wasn't pretty.

R53, do you feel the same way about Woman RAs, Gay RAs, Black RAs, Trans RAs, etc?

If not, why? There are whack job feminists and there are whack job MRAs. Not all feminists want to throw their sons off cliffs, not all MRAs want their wives chained to the kitchen.

Hardwick sounds like a mess, but not an abuser. Realizing that doesn’t make one a scary Men’s Rights Activist.

I do love the salt here. As they say, reset the clock until the SJWs eat one of their own male feminists.

MRAs have no credibility. Their leader is a deadbeat dad, for christ's sake!

They have a leader? That’s weird. I know nothing about them except it seems there’s a double standard. Everything is all about how strong women are and how women need this or that and women are better than men and women should hate men, yadda yadda yadda. No wonder men are getting married less. It just gets tiring. Women’s organizations seem to perpetuate this idea that women never can be happy.

what a turd, his defense is that he never sexually assaulted her, but she's a cheating whore, so he dumped her and by the way she begged him to let her carry his babies.

good riddance!

There's also a weird duality in how women want to be perceived: infantilized and strong equals. And all holy hell breaks out when you point out the infantilization.

Here is the MRAs leading voice. It says a lot that their leader is a two faced hypocrite. And that's the reputation that MRAs have. They only cry victim to further their selfish motives. A big cause for them is divorced father's rights. The fact is fathers are favored in family courts, but most men don't want custody.

There's a weird duality in how Hardwick wants to be perceived as some woke nice guy who supports women yet in private acts totally different.

And then all holy hell breaks out when you point out the discrepancy in the public and private behavior.

"I devoutly wish some of these men would sue these bitches into oblivion,then maybe they would stop with the "me too" crap."

Yeah, I'd pay good money to watch Al Franken eviscerate uber cunt Kirsten Gillebrand live on national TV, then sue her skank ass for ruining his career.

I adore R220. We need more straight ladies like her posting here.

𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝘂𝗲𝘀. 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗸𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗷𝗼𝗯.

Talking Dead's Chris Hardwick will no longer appear in the Kaaboo Festival after ex-girlfriend, Chloe Dykstra, accused an ex of sexually and emotionally abusing her.

The Del Mar, California, festival pulled Hardwick from it's lineup for the year. He was set to perform a comedy set at the September show but that is no longer the plan.

A different act has not been announced, at the moment.

His AMC show and Comic Con hosting duties have been pulled.

R276 it's sound like another customer is unhappy with the product they bought. They're just returning it.

Oh God, r6 is a lying hypocrite who pretends he doesn't depend on Social Justice.

F/F, please.

Do people really consider willingly sleeping with someone when you're not in the mood sexual assault now? I'm not shedding any tears for this guy who seems like a dick but if this is the new norm, do you have to get more than consent, do you have to make sure they're not pretending to be in the mood or faking it or be accused of sexual assault?

R228, are you speaking from experience, or are you hearing this from straight men who you fuck on the down low?

No judgement. Just wondering. Because here’s the thing: if a straight, married man who is married to a straight woman, yet is cruising for dick on the DL, then, YES. There is something VERY wrong with their marriage, especially if the wife is under the impression that she married a completely straight man.

Deceit plays out in the bedroom. Lose trust, lose good sex. That’s just the way the ball bounces.

[quote] this is the new norm, do you have to get more than consent, do you have to make sure they're not pretending to be in the mood or faking it or be accused of sexual assault?

Yes. It must be enthusiastic consent or it could be viewed as taking advantage or assault.

[quote]The first time I told him I loved him after 6 months of hoping he’d say it first, his response was (and I quote), “I think I love you too, f****t.”

Guys, I don't think they're saying that Hardwick said, "I think I love you too, faggot."

What he probably said was, "I think I love you too, fuckit.'

It makes a lot more sense. Why would he call her a faggot? Because she's showing girly emotions? But that's what people expect from girls. To act like faggots and they be rewarded for it.

Maybe he was a homophobic nerdboy making a lame joke -- because homophobia is OFF THE CHARTS in a lot of these nerdy straight guys.

But "Fuck it," in this context, means that Hardwick was only reluctantly admitting he needed or loved the girl. It shows admitting love was a huge comedown in Hardwick's mind and a concession -- not the privilege, mutual respect or joy that Dykstra expected it to be.

That wasn't even a nice try R283. It was a very lame try.

R277

R269, why do men want to outlaw abortion...even if the baby was conceived via rape and or incest?

Because that’s the only way some women will have their children.

Men have to force women to have their babies against their wills.

Because women don’t want to.

That’s why the birth rate is so low for white women....they don’t want to have white babies.

[quote] That’s why the birth rate is so low for white women....they don’t want to have white babies.

LOL. What?!?

R287..white men aren’t worthy of reproduction. White women are repulsed by them....overall.

I’m wondering if he fucked over his “Hearst” wife, and a team of “encouraging “ people contacted the ex, offering her $$$$ to finally spill her story.

[quote] R287..white men aren’t worthy of reproduction. White women are repulsed by them....overall.

Yes, keep telling yourself that.

R286 that's not the reason. It's because they want each child they do bear to have a sufficient amount of resources in terms of time, attention, education, money and energy.

This increases the chance of success for the children they do have. This strategy is employed by many sensible and educated people not just white ones.

Also, what is the point of having a large brood of children? In the old days, children often died young of disease or were needed to go out to earn money for the family on farms on in factories. There was also no effective birth control. That's a mute point now. But you know all this.

[quote]That's a mute point now.

Oh, dear!

Chloe sounds so needy: “I told him I loved him after 6 months of hoping he’d say it first“. Aw gee, he must be a terrible monster. Other than cosplay and bit parts, does she have an actual career?

I think it's great she got closure. And he got outed as a jerk. But that should be it.

The blacklisting might be illegal, though.

R292, thanks! My first, "Oh, dear".

Glad I could take your cherry!

(All in good fun.)

Oh, yippee!

Now r238 is throwing random racism into the mix!

Did anyone mention that one of Chris Hardwick's sexual demands was installing the kitchen sink into their mattress?

I think there’s more behind this story. I believe her, but why now? Surely she knows consensual sex when you feel like shit, is still consensual sex.

Something or someone is encouraging this woman to do this.

He immediately got removed from his engagements. Something is up.

[quote] That's a mute point now. Oh, dear!

The term you are reaching for would be a 𝑚𝑜𝑜 𝑝𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑡. Because a cow's opinion doesn't matter.

Maybe he’s made too many enemies along the way and they are using the #metoo movement to get rid of him

I just assumed the fact his show premiered tomorrow night was no coincidence. Thad’s a great way to triangulate those who are in business with him.

Has Lebron commented yet?

R299, I don't think anyone is encouraging her. She comes across as someone with BPD. As for timing...he has a new show coming out this week.

R299, she says she did it for closure and his gigs got pulled because he's not worth the trouble. What's his talent really? But if she did it for revenge, who cares? Sounds like he's was an asshole anyway and some of his current and ex co-workers have said he was also a racist, homophobic, social climber.

R301 I also believe he has a lot of enemies. But I don't think they planned to get rid of him. They just don't care about him and don't want to get entangled in his mess.

[quote]not all MRAs want their wives chained to the kitchen.

... um, yes they do.

I know it doesn't really prove anything but when they were dating she was Scary skinny to the point of looking gaunt and bony but since they split she looks a lot healthier.

Was the page from his book that said leave your girl in the room at conventions but when you get back she better be ready to go, turn out to be true?

Guys like him pick women like her for their low self esteem. I mean, people obsessed with cosplay could be said to not want to be in their own skin and prefer to live a fantasy life. Couple that with the anoxia, daddy issues and gaming and she’s just what he wants.

I can’t imagine a woman actually staying holed up in a hotel room while he goes out to enjoy Comic Com because he ordered her too. The reason she did is because she’s frightened of him dumping her there, fighting her when he returns home, cancelling her plane ticket home and telling all his colleagues she was out fucking around on him.

He’s a piece of work.

We're talking about a guy who had his bachelor party at Disneyland. Seriously.

R307 it's weird he included that passage in his book. I guess he never imagined it would cause him trouble as he couldn't have predicted the recent culture change.

YAY:: THE BULLY IS LOSING WORK. SO GR8

KARMA KARMA !!!!

Who would have guessed white straight nerds are just as toxic horrible and rapey as jocks.

r259

Thanks, R220, and congrats on dumping the jerks. I'm an old guy, so there's that big,difference. What I've wondered about is the question of victimhood/agency. That is, when, if ever, is a victim complicit in her/his victimhood? There are cases in which there's such an imbalance of age, power and authority that there isn't any question about that. But are there instances in which the victim--male or female--"should have known better"?

I don't like this whole atmosphere where all it takes is one person making an accusation and a career gets ruined. We weren't there, we don't know what this relationship was like, and even if he was a dickhead and a shitty boyfriend is that grounds to ruin his career? How many of us have an ex who has a completely different memory of the relationship than what we have? Is it fair for only one version of events to be the one that's believed?

If a dude wrote an essay about what a psycho bitch his ex was would he automatically be believed and would that woman have a bunch of her business ties cut as a response? No, the response would be that he shouldn't be such a whiny little bitch and he should have just dumped her and moved on with his life. Which is why we don't see those essays but for some reason every chick who went on a bad date feels the need to come forward and tell her story.

I'm not a MRA or anything like that so spare me. I just don't like the internet mobs and witch hunts. Now all it takes is a bitter ex to come forward and claim you were a jerk and you're career is ruined? No one should be celebrating that.

Patty has spoken, bitches!

It's more than an ex claiming he was a jerk. Ruining someone's career opportunities is serious.

As an aside , Patty looks terrific !

Wow, r308, thats some fantasy you have going there. She'd be afraid of him canceling her plane ticket? Why? She's from a wealthy family. Her father was co-creator of ILM with George Lucas. Is it that you think she can't nook one on her own?

And C-level celebrity, Chris Hardwick has more juice in Hollywood to blackball the kid of a movie producer and head of special effects for a studio?

R315 Hardwick is not doing a regular job. Essentially, he's a product. He marketed himself as a "nice guy". But his consumers are finding out they've been duped.

Now, many consumers no longer like the product called Hardwick and they are dumping him. That's capitalism.

Due to cultural changes and social media, low-quality celebs like Hardwick are now at a higher risk for being weeded out of the Hollywood ecosystem by dissatisfied consumers who only want to invest in high-quality celebs. They want their products as advertised.

[quote] If a dude wrote an essay about what a psycho bitch his ex was would he automatically be believed and would that woman have a bunch of her business ties cut as a response? No, the response would be that he shouldn't be such a whiny little bitch and he should have just dumped her and moved on with his life.

Oh my, that's precious.

Where are the "fixers" of yesteryear?

R320, that about sums it up.

I find Patty Hearst's "defense" of her son-in-law laughable. She of all people should understand. But heck, at least one well-known person spoke up on his behalf.

That's not really the case R320. We have one person claiming he's not a nice guy. We don't know if she's telling the truth or not. We live in a reactionary world where there is no taking even a minute to investigate, get the his side of the story or anything like that. Accusations are just automatically believed and steps are automatically taken to ties with the accused because the mob comes after you if you don't.

I don't know the truth in this situation. It's usually somewhere in the middle of both of their versions. If it turns out that people really don't want to see the guy around anymore then yeah, it's capitalism for his career to fade out. But the market so to speak wasn't even given a chance to weigh in on what they think about the guy and who they believed before he got ditched left and right by his business associates. And they only reacted the way they did because they are afraid of the mob not because people stopped watching his show or stopped turning up to the forums he hosted.

And to equate sleeping with someone because you're afraid they'll leave you with actual assault is just wrong. It's not the same thing at all. People might just read some headlines (like the one over at the DM) and come away with a completely wrong impression.

Sorry, I don't buy the whole blackballing thing either. He's freaking Chris Hardwick, not some mighty and powerful mogul. He certainly wasn't in a more powerful position than her father, so how could he have damaged her career?

Chris is a weak, pathetic little man. He used to have his mother fight his battles on Twitter. Now he's having his mother in law come to his defense. I used to follow Lydia's antics in the post, she's damaged goods. It's the only reason Patty approved of her marrying this C-lister from Tennessee.

Yep, 2 rich losers decorating a fabulous house like 20 year olds with Disneyland wallpaper and Dr. Who and Beetlejuice collectibles.

You're being too rational for this group, r324.

At least with Franken there was irrefutable evidence. The Chris case is not so clear cut.

R324 it is the case.

If you look at Twitter, it is Hardwick's own consumers who are voicing their dissatisfaction. These are fans who have invested a lot of time, money and even emotion in the Hardwick product. They have watched his show, listened to his podcast, attended conventions with him and bought his book. They've encouraged friends to give him a look as well.

Because these consumers invested so much in the Hardwick product they also know a lot about him and his personal life. They are able to analyze this woman's story and recognize familiar details and whether or not they ring true. Social media also allows them to hear from people who have claimed to work with Hardwick and who are offering unfavorable opinions of him.

The ill-advised reaction statement that was made by Hardwick have made many of his consumers protest that he is NOT the product that they ordered.

Her current boyfriend, Robert Kazinsky, should be blacklisted. He was fired from a UK show for sexually harassing a woman.

The new Captain Marvel is an abuser.

R329, are you seriously trying fly a twitter mob as judge, jury and executioner?

R330 Hardwick consumers invested in Hardwick. They did not invest in the woman or her current boyfriend.

The #metoo mob invests in nothing but blood lust, r332.

Yes, R331, his fans (or what you call the "twitter mob") are his judge, jury and executioner.

That is professionally speaking in his role as a famous personality.

He's not a baker. His product isn't cakes. His product is a nice guy persona. That's what he has been selling.

Do you think he is owed some form of celebrity "welfare"? That he should be supported even though he's not providing the service he's supposed to be providing to his fans?

If you look at Twitter, his fans are actually quoting stuff he said on his podcast or show that now appears to be BS. They're disappointed. They believed in him.

R251, yeah, when a guy talks shit about an ex during his actual job, and you find out that he actually abused that ex, it should affect his career.

People forget that these kinds of guys aren't owed a job in entertainment. I saw it with Devin Faraci, too, this whole idea that he would be doomed to death if he didn't get to keep writing for big outlets and do interviews on TV. They can get jobs elsewhere. Like everyone else, they can live without having their dream job.

But he was dropped from his gigs before he released the statement R329. That’s what I don’t like about this whole thing, no presumption of innocence, it was an automatic presumption of guilt like there is in almost all of these cases.

If there is real evidence, if after some sort of due process it’s determined that guy did something legitimately wrong then screw him. Cut him loose and let him deal with the consequences. But this guy is just being accused of being a shitty boyfriend. No accusations of professional misconduct or anything like that.

I dunno. I just know that I wouldn’t want some bitter ex to come forward to smear me and feel like there was nothing I could say or do to really defend myself because we live in a world where a single accusation without any proof can ruin you.

You're using all this legal system-related language but there is NO trial. He's not going to jail. He's going to sleep in his own bed in his own home tonight.

Hardwick is in show business It's a BUSINESS. It's different than other types of businesses because the product being sold is Hardwick himself.

It's Hardwick's responsibility to be authentic to the brand he's marketing. Why should producers of a gig keep him on when he's not living up to his brand?

He's not owed a lucrative Hollywood career.

It's not a court of law. There is no due process.

And don't forget we're not privy to the same set of facts the production company knows. They may have had other complaints, may have gotten legal advice on how to proceed, who knows.

YOU'RE the one jumping to conclusions that this is just a bitter ex with no proof. Hardwick, by the way, is swimming in William Randolph Hearst money. He's not ruined.

[quote]It's Hardwick's responsibility to be authentic to the brand he's marketing.

lol

R324, you're just flat wrong about Hardwick not having any influence in the nerd/gaming industry. Also, the person who helped him blacklist Chloe was Michele Morrow, apparently, and the word of Chloe's former podcasting partner could go a long way. A few well placed "she was my business partner and best friend but I don't trust her now" comments would cause almost everyone in the industry to just quietly stay away from her.

Again, you're being too rational for this group, r340.  This group can only think in terms of he's a man therefore he must be guilty.

Twitter mobs aren't really that big.  They are a relatively small group of people work themselves up into a frenzy and post repeatedly post negative shit. Much like DataLounge.

And what is this bullshit about his brand being a nice guy.  He's always been a dickwad.  Do nice guys bitch about their Ex in TV?  His fan is nerdy guys who really don't give a shit about this.  If you are so certain that his fan base has abandoned him then you should be okay with the market deciding with real ratings.

In the past, Hollywood was able to control information about the celebrity product. Thus, a jerk could be painted as a wonderful person and no one would ever know.

But this is getting harder to do. People are able to obtain so much more info about celebrities. Inauthentic people are a harder sell in the social media age.

I think in the future the Hardwick types won't even be able to get their careers off the ground. Hollywood will just start promoting people who live in a way that is closer to their public image.

Is r345 seriously trying to say that a podcaster has more power than John Dykstra? Really??????? Now that's funny. You must be a contortionist IRL, and not a very good one.

Some posters sound like they are complaining because the old Hollywood protection system is gone and now this guy's career is subject to the rules of capitalism.

Capitalism would be allowing his shows to air and for ratings to decide, r348. Twitter mobs don't count.

And r347 was meant for r344 not r345. I was laughing so hard at her saying a podcaster has more power than John Dykstra that I couldn't see the post numbers.

[quote]Inauthentic people are a harder sell in the social media age.

lol, again.

Traditional ratings are old-fashioned and will soon be a thing of the past. It's all about social media users. Advertisers can get to know and connect with them much better than some Nielsen family.

Are we really doing this thing where to be accused is to be guilty? This is not like Weinstein.

It's a big change certainly in how Hollywood works. People will need to adjust. Certainly, Hardwick needs to invest in better PR advice. The statement he released was very inadequate.

I hope he doesn't lose his talkshow over this. I know that he was kicked out of something recently but it's unfair to judge and destroy someone's career if it's not true sexual assault. This is like the Babe story, women need to take control of the situation-- walk out.

R340 "But he was dropped from his gigs before he released the statement"

No he wasn't. The only thing that happened yesterday was the Nerdist people and company disassociating from him, but as was pointed out many times he no longer owned it.

NBC JOINS THE MOB

NBC released a statement to Deadline Saturday saying: “These allegations about Chris Hardwick took us by surprise as we have had a positive working relationship with him. However, we take allegations of misconduct very seriously. Production on The Wall does not begin until September, and in the meantime we are continuing to assess the situation and will take appropriate action based on the outcome.”

This is what I heard on a podcast and it's what I think is impacting these celebrities:

Our communication system used to be closed. That's the way it was for the past 100 years. But now it's broken open and is fragmenting.

Thus, we will need a new breed of celebrity who can navigate this terrain.

I'll be your Cheeto!

Just another pampered upper middle class princess who won't take responsibility for her own actions. So much for empowerment

I've noticed a mentality over the last few years that says if you are an affluent attractive white woman you have no responsibility for your actions ever. Pretty sweet deal, you get all the hedonism and freedom of adulthood but you're still thought of as a perpetual wide eyed child that others should take care of. Weirdly liberal women are worse with this mentality

Seems like her personality was such that it made him feel insecure. Thus the "rules." Not blaming her. It sounds like he was a dick. But I'm not so sure that being a dick should cause you to lose your livelihood.

The sex thing does not rise to the level of being "abuse." She allowed it. She consented.

If he did actively try to have her blackballed, and tried to keep her from working, that is a problem, and is wrong. Surely there must be evidence out there, if this is the case. I'd be interested to see that.

She needs to take it to court and sue him before she accuses him of sabotaging her career.

Patricia Hearst is defending her son in law, but she is not the most mentally stable person.

I really hate this part of the #MeToo movement. We need to focus on women who have actually gotten raped and thousands of rape kits being lost and they never see their attacker being convicted.

It's possible to focus on more than 1 thing. This woman staying silent wouldn't have a positive impact on the rape kit situation. Two different issues.

Who knows if he'll ever be able to find work again.

Luckily he's married to an heiress.

Yes, but for how long? I'm betting he regrets just buying that extra $5 million house in Eagle Rock for shits and giggles.

I agree completely 364

Sorry 365 you're wrong .the media has abandoned truly vulnerable victims to white knight for histrionic umc brats who think that any pain or regret in their life makes them "survivors". Notice this whiny hipster chicks will never advocate for those in far worse situations. I really think they secretly enjoy the sexualized attention that telling their "stories" brings. I lol'd at the anorexic selfie. LOOK AT ME, DO YOU SEE IM SUFFERING?

In the mid 80s there was a Bloom County strip in which women were throwing themselves at Otis because they figured he was someone they could have safe sex with.

I feel the same. I could get a big paying job and nothing about my past would ever come out because I haven't been lucky enough to have had relationships...or maybe I should say unlucky enough.

There must be dozens if not hundreds of pasty, short, fanged- tooth nerds in LA. Pick a few for these gigs and move on. I hope Chris didn't blow all his money on candy and comic books.

Lydia has a pre-nup and trust income that is untouchable by Chris. He's fucked.

[quote] possible to focus on more than 1 thing. This woman staying silent wouldn't have a positive impact on the rape kit situation. Two different issues.

Different issues but totally unequal media attention or public awareness.

I wouldn't have known about it except happened upon it on a minor news site. Instead, the media focuses on some white woman who didn't have the common sense to walk out of an emotionally abusive relationship with a minor celebrity. Real sexual assault problems experienced by poor women--mostly minority-- do not get the attention it deserves. It's not two different issues when one is pushed aside into the corner and forgotten.

Women are the BIGGEST Mental Abusers!

Why does he lose a show and Ryan Seacrest still has one?

I agree 373 ,the media only cares about certain types of victims. Nobody gives a fuck about the thousands of poor people struggling to get by in this country. Some cosplay slut regrets her choice of fuck buddy and it's treated as worthy of mass hysteria.

She attended events with him for years, meaning plenty of people saw how he treated her. People who work on Nerdist and who interviewed him have said he's an asshole.

Clearly, there were already issues. Anyone saying this is just some bitter ex lying to get back at him is wrong.

R377, links to these interviews?

Any word yet from Hardwick's ex-fiance Jacinda Barrett ("The Real World: London")? Must be happy she upgraded to Gabriel Macht ("Suits").

R373 the traditional media didn't initiate the coverage. They're just reporting things they see being talked about by individual social media users.

Traditional media is always behind the curve these days.

awesome to see auntie kharma in action

may he spend every million he has on lawyers...

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

What's with the "Hardwick's ouster is just capitalism, so it's okay" rash that keeps recurring?

As if capitalism = justice.

SINCE WHEN THE FUCK was capitalism always just?

Go sell yourself to Ronald Reagan, simpleton. The rest of us have brains.

[quote] Instead, the media focuses on some white woman who didn't have the common sense to walk out of an emotionally abusive relationship with a minor celebrity.

What is with these people suddenly prefacing everything with white? What difference does that make? You race baiters are really tiresome.

R382 most likely that was said by a white guy who doesn't like the direction of things.

^R383

r324 still doesn't know how Hardwick could have damaged her career, when Hardwick arranged for all her jobs at HIS networks, shows and gigs that he already had based on his relationships.

He used the money, jobs and access to control her from start to finish -- an age-old story. Make her completely financially dependent on you then cut her off if she doesn't obey every whim.

I can understand not wanting to continue co-hosting or working with her on-air after a breakup. But if I respected her as a human being, her needs and believed she had any on-air talent and merit to begin with (ATTENTION: CAPITALISM=JUSTICE TROLL), I would have offered her severance, asked to buy her off the hosting gigs or negotiated separate hosting duties rather than boycott her and get my assistant to ostracize, boycott, blacklist and slander her.

That's vindictive, controlling, spiteful retaliation and fuckery.

AND IT SHOWS CHRIS HARDWICK DOESN'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT HER 'CAPITALISTIC MERIT' IN SHOW BUSINESS PRODUCTS, WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST PRODUCTS AND THAT SETTLES IT TO CERTAIN, HUNKY-DORY FUCKWADS ON THIS THREAD.

But IT SHOULD BE A COURT OF LAW, r342, YOU FUCKWAD!

Consumer confidence depends on the truth and you can't have a true, free or competitive marketplace if the TWITTER MOB OR DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEES ARE SLANDERING THE PRODUCT. THEY ARE BIASED AND ADVERTISING FALSE PRODUCTS, TOO.

Where is the free-market justice for them?

Since you need capitalist terms, scumbag. MARKETS ARE BOUND TO AND DEPENDENT ON COURTS OF LAW, as much as you wish or pretend they're not, Mr. Reagan!

So you're really looking to have your head chopped off by the 99 percent, aren't you, r342? You want it.

He's a pig and finally got what was coming to him. Divorce is next. Lydia can do better than that.

r342's mob rule is what absolutely justifies the guillotine's mob rule.

I agree, Lydia will be out. AMC just canceled his show and will pull him from Talking Dead next, right along with NBC pulling him off whatever crap game show they had him on. His entertainment career is over. Good riddance.

I think because nobody believes Ryan Seacrest would ever willingly touch a woman R375.

Maybe Will Wheaton has a spare bedroom?

Say it isn't so. My favorite 90's pocket hottie being accused of abusive douchery.

Sorry deary, but he revealed his Mr. Hyde side 2 weeks in and she chose to remain with him. Either Hardwick laid down pipe better than a plumber and dickmatized her, or she's a basic dumb bitch playing the victim card.

When he had a few million a year coming in, he probably didn't look so bad to Lyds. Now that she will have to pay for everything- that will get old fast. The stand-up clubs don't even want him now.

I agree that all the complaining about shitty boyfriends hurts the #metoo movement. BUT if he did blackball her from getting hired he should get in trouble for that.

Patton Oswalt who plays the SJW but whose own past is sketchy (dead ex wife, quickly remarried) is buds with Hardwick. Oswalt tweets everything but is noticeably silent about this.

Who is the moron who keeps crowing about how much more power John Dykstra has than Hardwick in that sphere?

It’s a moot point. Dykstra creates no content for podcasters and fandoms based on his social media activities and performance career.

And yes, Hardwick ordering her to stay in his hotel room during Comic Con and her obeying him has everything to do with her fears oh him publicly humiliating her among their peers and he knew she would do what he wanted because of her issues.

R395 Wouldn't this be the easiest thing to prove if true?

Papa Dykstra will take care of TN trash. Chris is a dead man walking- watch for Lydia, 1 month tops to issue a statement of separation.

I bet Lydia stays with him. Those Hearsts are prone to Stockholm Syndrome

As long as the coke is flowing, Lydia Hearst will stay.

As for this Chloe person and this Hardwick person, I've never heard them. They must be "kid famous" meaning that young people know who they are but they haven't made a big enough splash to cross over into recognition among the general population.

At least Chris can depends on Yvette Nicole Brown to stay loyal to him.

He got dropped by a lot of people, very fast. This makes me think he was already disliked by a lot of people in the industry. Not every person who's been accused gets dropped so fast. One of the reasons Harvy and Spacy went so fast was that everyone had been hearing these stories for years and they disliked for other reasons. Everyone was glad to finally see these assholes get in trouble. They were thrilled to be able to call these guys assholes, without fear of reprisals. I'm guessing that's what's happening here.

That sounds right to me as well, R403

R403 couldn’t of said it any better. I believe you are right on in your analysis.

[quote] [R403] couldn’t of said it any better.

While I agree with the sentiment, I must Oh, dear you.

R401, you must still be subscribing to magazines. How quaint.

What role does Kim Carnes play in this?

R375 because there is a lot more money riding on Ryan Seacrest so the wealthy outlets he works for really fought for him and possibly opened up their wallets behind the scenes.

That's quite true, R407, and I subscribe to newspapers too.

R406 thank you grammar Nazi.

Allegedly, his co-workers and staff despised him, according to a person on Celebitchy. The person commented that she hosted a weekend getaway trip, that was mostly Hardwick’s staff, and she overheard them all talk major shit about him as they sat around a campfire.

They all said he was a nasty, abusive boss, but not as terrible as others they had worked with.

The fact alleged hearsay that at least he’s not as bad as working for other jerks in Hollywood, says a lot about this industry.

We need to remember that this is entertainment. It isn’t a job or a field that requires you to be a good person with integrity, it just requires that you act like a good person who has integrity, if that is the persona that you’ve chosen to project, which Hardwick has.

I believe this young lady, and again, as I’ve said upthread, I hope she is healing.

I’ve had some time to think about this since it first broke, and I do wonder why she has chosen to air out his dirty laundry. Does this young lady need to have a throng of people validating her past abuse at his hands? Is she doing this for revenge? Is she doing it because job opportunities are still closed to her? I mean, really. What is the point? He married a woman who has access to money, so if she supports him emotionally, she will do so financially. Hardwick is going to be jingling change in a run can in a subway station any time soon.

I do believe Dykstra, but I also believe Chloe has MAJOR issues. She needs constant validation and acclaim, and she will do whatever it takes to get it, whether it means starving herself, undergoing plastic surgery, or dating abusive men on their way up the ladder.

He is completely fucked up, but so is she. Now, if this guy was another Weinstein or Cosby, then I’d see the value in her sharing her personal experience regarding him, in order to help other women, validate them as well, and perhaps halt future opportunities for abuse, but this guy? He’s a social climbing asshole with probable Asperger’s at worst. This guy probably worships his new wife because of her name and status. No way is he fucking that up.

Chloe could have worked all of this out in therapy. It bothers me that I genuinely believe that she did this for attention and validation. That’s not what the #metoo movement is about.

Correction:

Hardwick isn’t going to be jingling change in a tin can in a subway station any time soon.

41, her motivation is sympathy and attention. Just another spineless millennial brat with a victim complex. Just once I'd like to see the media and public stand up to one of these sluts and say "were sorry for your bad relationship choices but no one is losing their job because of this ".

R414, no need to call her a slut, or other women who have genuinely suffered abuse.

Now that being said, Chloe is fucked up. I mean, she might be acting out shit that he taught her inadvertently: How to get attention, 101.

I think she’s still processing what happened, and she is now insistent on everyone knowing that he’s actually a real asshole, and I get that. When you’re been hurt and humiliated by someone who pretends to be someone they are not, you go through different stages of processing that pain. She’s enraged with him. She feels like he got away with something. That’s one of the biggest reasons why I believe her. She wants to make it clear that what happened to her is not OK, and state the boundaries that she should have stated while this was happening. I’ve been there, and I get it.

Maybe this will get her sympathy work, but she has to be authentically good at what she does, in order to keep it going. I’ve never seen her work, so I have no idea.

It’s a strange place, because though I believe her, I also believe that if people stop working with Hardwick, it won’t be because of her story. It will be because he really is an asshole, and people don’t like him.

I’m cynical, yes, but I do not believe that the #metoo movement is going to last. Straight men, and plenty of gay men, will always be assholes and fuck over women and men whom they claim to love, and patriarchy will always win out. Americans are just too fucked up and stupid to really require change. I thought we might of had something good going when Obama got in, but now that I see Trump and his minions tearing our country apart, I realize that most people would rather be fucked in the ass without lube and tenderness, rather than to become self aware and reflective as to where we are headed as a nation.

I believe that there will eventually be a HUGE backlash to the #metoo movement. People claim to want change, but they don’t. And honestly, most people have no idea what they want. It’s easier to go with the flow, get a paycheck, and have a drink, than it is to question our values, and support each other.

I do support Chloe’s recovery. If this was absolutely necessary in order for her to heal, well, then who am I to say anything about her motives? However, I do believe that stories like hers will be used against women eventually. And they will be used against women. Just watch.

Unless she’s pursuing him for civil damages on lost wages, I don’t see the point in making this story public.

Well, R414, you and your ilk got exactly that over and over for decades.

Even when the woman wasn’t a ‘slut’ and the man was far, far worse than this ass...

Maybe she thought it was okay for her to talk about what had happened to her now that others were speaking up. Guess not.

Of course there will be a huge #metoo backlash. It began before #metoo began and it will get worse. My one fucking issue with these people is Al Franken. Mistake. Mistake. Mistake. Fucking stupid mistake. Everyone can see it now, even the dumbass cunts who were screeching about how pure we had to be in order to take down the Rethugs.

Kirsten Gillibrand can kiss my fine white ass. I'll never vote for any national ticket she's on.

R412 I think the info is valuable because if I'm a fan of someone I don't want them to be a jerk. I don't want to spend $ supporting them if they are fake. Others might feel differently.

I don't think there will be any MeToo backlash over Hardwick - have been surprised by how widely he's disliked. Reddit seems to be completely on Chloe's side, less out of "wokeness" and more because they want Hardwick to get a comeuppance from someone, anyone.

I see incels.

I've never been able to watch him in anything because of his disgusting Adam's apple. It moves around like it's a living thing when he talks and I can't concentrate on anything else. I don't know why his is so different from all other men, but it is a GROSS thing.

He sounds like a complete asshole, but what’s the point of her essay? Who is she going to “educate”?

He hosts the show that recaps the biggest show on TV directly after it R401. The general population knows who he is.

Keep dreaming about a #metoo backlash R417. It’s not happening and it’s not going to happen. You and your ilk have been loudly screaming for one for months. Not coming. There’s been a massive cultural shift, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Deal with it.

R422 his fans.

Chris Softdick has been famous since the 90s but since hes not a twink or ever had gay rumors surrounding him some of you hoes act like y'all dont know who he is. I think the most damaging part about the essay is him blacklisting the girl from the business but overall it sounded like were hearing one side about him being a shitty boyfriend. Not justifying it at all but not sure if his entire career needs to go down cause of it. Dont get me wrong- I cant stand this smug asshole. He had an episode of his podcast after 45 was elected and gave the "oh it wont be that bad" speech. His guest, Jake Gllenhal, was like "Girl, what?"

What about KIM FUCKING CARNES???!!!!!

oh give it up R415, Franken is not some once in a lifetime politician. Most of America has forgotten about him already.

I can't say too much other than I work with a Hearst Castle fundraising group, but there are more reasons than this one story why he is being dropped by everyone. More will come.

Great, R429, thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'll figure out who he is, no I'm not googling the little toad.

What is "the most popular show on tv" anyway, R421? ((I'm guessing Game of Thrones but what do I know?) And what is the name of this guy's tv show that "recaps" it afterwards? I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. I thought those "recap" things were blogs.

ChileR430, google is hour friend.

R393 referenced his Hyde side. Making her stay in the hotel room at ComicCon and 'being ready' for him sexually, what ever that means, conjured up the image of poor, petrified Ivy trying to look pleased that Hyde has come to call and then her panic when he tells her to sing Have You Seen Me Dance The Polka knowing what comes next. He's a sexual sadist. Rape fantasies or necrophilia. Very Cosbyesque. Perverted her need to be someone else with the CosPlay and then making her act out HIS fantasies. Sick fellow. Very sick.

If it's true that he's losing his engagements and jobs so quickly because people have long-suspected this, and exes and co-workers detest him, I'm surprised I hadn't hear rumors before, especially here. One of the things about the #metoo movement is I don't think any major case has surprised me. Harvey Weinstein - rumors, Bill O'Reilly - rumors, Cosby -rumors, Matt Lauer - rumors. But even on older DL threads about Hardwick, I don't think there was ever a peep.

Not saying it isn't true, just saying if it was so broadly suspected, I feel like we missed the boat on it.

I believe him.

I don't know why this is being conflated with #MeToo

#MeToo is about men in positions of power using that power to sexually harass and abuse women.

Even if what she said was true (and if it was, why didn't she go to authorities and proper channels rather than whining on a blog post four years after the fact?), it's about an abusive relationship. It's not at all the same thing as, say, Weinstein.

He's categorically denied all the allegations. So it's basically a he-said/she-said situation. There's been no evidence presented. Yet he's losing work, without any due process. How is this okay? Even if he IS guilty, what happened to "presumed innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty?"

I don't like this one bit.

I know straight men who say they wont' even ask women out now; it's too dangerous.

[quote]I don't know why this is being conflated with #MeToo. #MeToo is about men in positions of power using that power to sexually harass and abuse women.

Isn't that exactly what she's suggesting happened? She's accusing him of abuse, and then blackballing her from jobs because she left.

Is there any evidence for any of her claims?

R437 If that's actually true then who cares, they're either pussies or narcissists.

R439 She says in her post that she has evidence backing up her claims. "I have audio/video that will support and prove many of the things I’ve stated in this post." There's also been people who know both from work or socially backing her up.

It's still a total dick move to post about it in a blog post rather than getting a lawyer and going through existing frameworks.

[quote] there are more reasons than this one story why he is being dropped by everyone. More will come.

There's been no rumors on here before because Chris is straight and fug. Not DL material, although had more known about the Hearst connection.....

There is always more to the story, but his getting dropped or getting his shows put on hold doesn't mean much. This is a very sensitive PR issue and companies' first reaction will be of self-preservation. It doesn't reflect the validity of her claims. I wouldn't use that as justification for what she's saying.

To be honest it sounds like an S&M relationship that she entered into willingly. Making her stay in a hotel room and prepare herself for him sexually is exactly that kind of thing. It doesn't mean that what he did was wrong, because she was a willing party to it. I can't explain everyone's sexual ferishes but it's entirely possible this is what she signed up for - the Christian Grey fantasy - and she came to regret it after the fact. It doesn't necessarily follow that he's a raging asshole to everyone else in his life, just that this may be his sexual fetish.

[quote]Straight women literally just have to lay there, that's all they need do, all the onus and pressure to perform is put on the straight man to do everything to please them and still they come out with this nasty shit.

Aww...and no amount of wishing and hoping and praying will make those men look at you. OUCH

[quote]I know straight men who say they wont' even ask women out now; it's too dangerous.

Oh no. Poor straight men. They have it so hard.

I know women who have been raped. Multiple women. You do, too.

445, I've met her type before. They passively go along with whatever fuck buddy of the week proposes. They never express any discomfort at the time. A few years later that look back and feel embarrassed and everybody has to hear the whining. I support women's freedom to do what they want. What millennial chicks don't seem to realize is with that freedom comes personal responsibility and ownership of their own choices. In other words :own your shit ladies.

R455, you know a damn thing. Diarrhea of the mouth.

^ clearly drunk

R448? see R446. Study it. Live it.

If Hardwick talked about her on his @midnight show then how can his best friend of twenty years, and former room mate, NOT know what kind of relationship they had, and how toxic it was? Kazinsky was friendly with many of the people in Hardwicks's universe. Gamers, actors like Nathan Fillion who are treated like gods at Comic Con, CosPlay Hot Chicks like Dykstra, writers who cover the gaming world. He was also hotter in the looks department and his career was set to take off. He was a trade-up. Until CH managed to bag a Hearst. Not difficult to see that some of this is jealousy due to his continued good fortune and extreme anger for staying with a man because of what he could do for her with little to sow for it. A man who established early on that he did not respect her, treated her like a sex doll, considered her a 'trophy', and didn't care who knew it. And yes, there are elements to this story that speak of a consensual SM relationship.

Patty Hearst has weighed in! LOL

Looks like his on camera career is over. He'd better stick with the business side from now on and not use his own name on anything he doesn't have to.

This is a really good thread! So many cogent opinions.

“Cogent?” Sure, Jan.

No, he just sounds like an asshole. Many former employees seem to agree.

Even if everything she said is true and he's guilty as fuck, I'm not comfortable with the public smear, lack of due process, airing of a personal relationship's dirty laundry, and instant destruction of a hard-working man's career over mere "allegations" that are FOUR YEARS OLD.

Is anyone else really comfortable with this?

Are we giving up the whole "Innocent until proven guilty" thing now? Throwing due process out the window? Allowing anyone to smear someone with an allegation on some internet blog site, and absolutely destroy them as a result? Are we at mob-rule now?

I've seen so many people just dismiss him as 'garbage' now, as if human beings aren't more complicated than that, as if one he-said/she-said incident erase everything else about him. Total character assassination without recourse.

He treated women the same way Prince did. Big deal. So what? His girlfriend was a Star-Fucker. I bet if he lays low a few months and then makes a surprise appearance at NY Comic Con, the FanBoys will have a collective orgasm. I can't believe how terrified his friends and fellow celebrities are to say anything positive about him for fear of Social Media backlash.

Since scum like Hardwick have been doing this shit for, well, forever, yes I am “fine” with the cultural shift. I eagerly await more of these revelations. I hope they are ALL outed.

“Innocent until proven guilty” is for a court of law, not the court of public opinion. Bemoaning the “loss” of this when we are just people giving our own opinions is asinine. It does not mean that no one can hold the opinion that he’s actually NOT innocent. Claiming that these opinions show a loss of the legal concept that a person charged with a crime should be treated as innocent until proven guilty in court is absurd at best. It’s like the folks who get fired for social media meltdowns claiming that their “first amendment rights” were violated.

If someone wants to charge Hardwick with a crime and try him in court, he is “innocent until proven guilty” for the duration of that trial. But if an ex wants to write a tell-all about his possessive and domineering behavior, up to and including his insistence on daily sex on demand, and his pointed questioning of her doctor about how soon sex can resume after major surgery which she still hasn’t woken up from, all of which totally obliterates his fake-ass “nerdy nice guy” image, I’ll gladly read it, form my own opinion and then express it whenever and wherever I want.

If you think this represents some horrible erosion of our freedoms while glossing over or ignoring how he treated that woman, well, I’ll form an opinion of you, too, that is both perfectly valid and also inadmissible in court. Since scum like Hardwick have been doing this shit for, well, forever, yes I am “fine” with the cultural shift. I eagerly await more of these revelations. I hope they are ALL outed.

“Innocent until proven guilty” is for a court of law, not the court of public opinion. Bemoaning the “loss” of this when we are just people giving our own opinions is asinine. It does not mean that no one can hold the opinion that he’s actually NOT innocent. Claiming that these opinions show a loss of the legal concept that a person charged with a crime should be treated as innocent until proven guilty in court is absurd at best. It’s like the folks who get fired for social media meltdowns claiming that their “first amendment rights” were violated.

If someone wants to charge Hardwick with a crime and try him in court, he is “innocent until proven guilty” for the duration of that trial. But if an ex wants to write a tell-all about his possessive and domineering behavior, up to and including his insistence on daily sex on demand, and his pointed questioning of her doctor about how soon sex can resume after major surgery which she still hasn’t woken up from, all of which totally obliterates his fake-ass “nerdy nice guy” image, I’ll gladly read it, form my own opinion and then express it whenever and wherever I want.

If you think this represents some horrible erosion of our freedoms while glossing over or ignoring how he treated that woman, well, I’ll form an opinion of you, too, that is both perfectly valid and also inadmissible in court.

Listen to Oprah and stop making these women into victims. Anyone in any form of abusive relationship should leave. Whether male or female. Chloe admits in her interview that she stayed voluntarily. It’s her fault plain and simple.

461 haven't you heard? Women are no longer adults capable of choice, free will, and personal responsibility. They're all to be treated as mildly retarded children until they hit 40.

I hope R460's dirty laundry gets aired, and he gets unfairly judged "by the court of public opinion", and loses everything for no good reason, over something that wasn't anyone's business. Maybe THEN he'll get some fucking empathy and realize that mob rule isn't viable or desirable. Jesus fucking Christ.

So the same women who ate up "50 Shades of Gray" are now calling Harwick a garbage human and evil incarnate.

Huh.

The histrionics from his defenders is quite a spectacle

Chris should take a selfie of himself laying on top of a huge pile of $100 bills with the caption "What, me worry?"

Didn't Oprah 'borrow' those words of wisdom from Maya Angelou? Who in the HELL would take relationship advice from Oprah Winfrey?

Too bad he didn't spend some of his money on a publicist to help him craft a better response. His statement was pathetic.

Oprah is very abusive and controlling towards Gayle. Same with Ellen and Portia.

Assuming what she says is true, can someone explain to me how what he did was rape? The angry mobs on social media are calling Hardwick a rapist based on that blog post and it sounds fucking insane to me.

The histrionics from her, and her defenders is quite a spectacle.

How was his statement pathetic? It seemed, frankly, honest and heartfelt.

R460, applause!!! Thank you for writing what I would have written.

I believe Chloe and I think Hardwick's career has been significantly derailed in light of her accusations. I think AMC will find enough evidence to support their decision to cut ties with him within the next week or two.

Then fuck you, R473, and fuck R460 too. I hope you both lose your jobs and get publicly shamed and become unemployable over something you didn't do or that isn't anyone else's business.

Goddamn, it's easy to see how the Nazis rose to power with all this petty, vindictive mob-rule going on.

Oh, my

She claims that she has audio and video to prove that she was blacklisted. And that her 'best friend' was in on it. Kazinsky backs up her claim. Says that he has seen the video and listened to those recordings. What if Dykstra also secretly recorded some of those sex sessions? And she decides to make THOSE public? Is Nerd World about to blow up?

Well, she sure showed Chris who really had all the power in their relationship

474:these people aren't pro victim, they are pro fascism. The use their power to destroy lives and careers over hearsay, and then have the nerve to whine that they are the helpless little puppies of American society.

Not being a creep who pressures and intimidates people smaller and weaker than me into sex whenever I demand it, I have no “dirty laundry,” moron.

This really reveals so much about you that you assume I do. People with a working moral compass don’t make these assumptions. People who know right from wrong actually expect others to, as well. Being a demanding sex creep is actually NOT a default setting for all. Far from it.

One more thing, for R474: people can see how the Nazis grabbed power BECAUSE OF TRUMP. Because of the literal fascists who run the GOP, and both houses of Congress and the White House. Kids are being detained in cages as we speak because we elected a strong man dictator who is also a sex offender. DO NOT try and pin the real fascism that Trump and his supporters (you, perhaps?) are responsible for with the very necessary and real backlash that he inspired in the MeToo movement. GTFO with that garbage.

Yeah, and the tea on Spacey was out there for YEARS before the Weinstein mess put every abusive showbiz asshole's bizness on the street. The truth will out. Every goddamn time.

No one wants to buy what he's selling now. It's pretty simple.

r463 'he' r460 is a women as is most of the thread.

Like always these threads get ruined by this weird contingent of women that slyly lurk on DL who can barely contain their utter hatred of men. Why they think hanging about on a gay men's forum is a wise thing to I don't know. They laughably seem to want to form some kind of 'allyship' with gay men despite barely hiding their disgust for men.

I hate them they ruin every thread about stuff like this.

This far, his name has been scrubbed from a website he sold 2 years ago and his talk show has been shelved pending further investigation.

He isn’t in handcuffs. He isn’t behind bars. He isn’t being tortured at Gitmo.

He hasn’t even been fired (yet, anyway).

*Thus far

r447

[quote] I know women who have been raped. Multiple women. You do, too. ---1 of every 4

No you don't and nor do I. I used to support the "listen and believe" mantra and defend it too friends, but now realise we've all made a huge mistake with that. You've lost my support for this and a lot of other 'issues' we're supposed to believe women have.

Histrionic, attention seeking, retroactive, gas lighting, feckless, #MeTooing bullshit most of these claims, and they get more outrageous, unsubstantiated and obviously vindictive each week.

btw what do get out of posting on a forum for gay men exactly?

Why hasn't she filed rape charges with the police? She is claiming he forced her to have intercourse with him on numerous occasions.

[quote]Not being a creep who pressures and intimidates people smaller and weaker than me into sex

She's half a foot taller than him

Yeah. We can all see through our computer screens to r460's frau hovel. She's wearing a pink pussy hat and drinking a SlimFast while chowing down on an entire box of Entenmann's donut holes. Damn you R460 and your vile lady parts stinking up this bastion of manly maleness.

486 that's the funny thing. She's not even claiming force she's saying she felt pressured or some such bs. And in this day and age that's enough to get the angry mobs howling

r488 why the sarcasm? That's probably 100% accurate description.

"Help help!! police I'm being raped!!"

"OK ma'am stay calm, is the attacker armed?

"no no, but I really want to get to interview the midget who played R2-D2 at this years ComiCon"

*click*

"hello??"

Well one thing is clear. If she actually has audio and video proof then she's a hell of a lot smarter than he is.

All comics are deeply angry people and difficult to be around. All of them are best avoided. Certainly, do not enter into a romantic relationship with one. It is more than reasonably foreseeable that the result will be difficult. At minimum.

Hardwich is adorable, respectably hung and successful. It is easy to see why a wannabe aspiring actress type would want to be seen on his arm. It is just too bad for him that he went messing around with pussy. That NEVER ends well for a man.

It's fucking Chris Hardwick - that's the equivalent of crying about being mentally raped and abused by Kermit the Frog. Jesus christ, shit like this makes me so thankful to be gay...

"Hardwich adorable". Please! Let's not go crazy here.

[quote]I believe Chloe

So do I, she admits she saw in two weeks who he was and CHOSE to stay. I believe her and she is no victim.

[quote] Like always these threads get ruined by this weird contingent of women that slyly lurk on DL who can barely contain their utter hatred of men. Why they think hanging about on a gay men's forum is a wise thing to I don't know.

You're the gay man commenting on an issue that doesn't affect you at all and you're saying women are out of line for commenting about abuse against women? The fact is if you really wanted women to stay out of here, you would only have gay issues posted on here. Maybe you should have stayed in your lane after all, or as Chris Hardwick would say: I love you too f*****t

As angry as I am towards my two successive abusive relationships, I have to bear the brunt of the responsibility for choosing to stay. Especially after the second one.

[quote]It's fucking Chris Hardwick - that's the equivalent of crying about being mentally raped and abused by Kermit the Frog.

Best description of Chris Hardwick EVAH

It is alarming to see people losing work based solely on accusations of questionable behavior. But even more alarming to see people calling sex with someone who consented but wasn’t in the mood rape. This will only stop when one of these men sues their former employers or a woman is accused.

Maybe he’s really good in bed and that’s why she stayed.

You really don't understand domestic abuse at all do you R5? Please go and read up on it - anything related to 'the dominator' by Pat Craven is very accessible - it's written for a wide range of educational backgrounds and comprehension abilities.

r297 you and your opinions aren't welcome here, I don't know how many times this has to be said. I wouldn't dare impose a lesbian/woman's forum and dictate their conversation with this entitled air you lot always have on here.

Sit down and be quiet.

r497 that should be

r497

[quote]you're saying women are out of line for commenting about abuse against women?

"abuse"?? citation needed

[quote] I wouldn't dare impose a lesbian/woman's forum and dictate their conversation with this entitled air you lot always have on here.

An anti-male women's forum had to be shut down because men were trolling it. The fact remains that this conversation does not concern you and you know it. Women aren't lecturing and hectoring about gay issues so you can't complain about that, so instead you find this to tell women to shut up about. The audacity of a man telling a woman to shut up about an issue that affects women is unbelievable.

r506

shut up you fucking miserable cunt.

No one's interested in your tired woe is the wiminz act here, it doesn't work on us.

Now fuck off.

So Sean Penn's career should have ended after his breakup with Madonna.

He looks positively anorexic in that photo. His rib cage is visible. Very little muscle tone in the arms, thighs, or calves. Perhaps this is why he looks 'hung' by comparison. Maybe he was just hangry. Didn't SHE become anorexic during the relationship? Scene from the movie Secretary. Edward Grey: "What are you having for dinner?" Miss Holloway: "Chicken, peas, creamed potatoes, and ice cream for dessert." Edward Grey:"Okay, a scoop of creamed potatoes, four peas, and as much ice cream as you want to eat".

It's ALL that matters ever!!!!!!!!!

You can invent cold fusion but you were rude to your female assistant? DEATH BY CASTRATION!!! And if you spawned any children they too shall be expunged!!

Mel Gibson's career was pretty much ruined.

[quote]An anti-male women's forum had to be shut down because men were trolling it

This isn't an "anti women forum" you dope, it's a forum for gay men.

Mel Gibson has been welcomed back.

AMC took his talk show off the air and replaced it with Ride with Norman Reedus. He won't be at Comic Con in San Diego. I bet they cancel Talking Dead. Stupid little fucker is done.

This has devolved into another thread being hijacked by an asshole who has no real interest in the subject being discussed. Just boring the rest of us with his Mommy issues. Take it to a Psychology Today forum, honey. No one here gives a damn.

r507, what the fuck are you talking about? You're just putting words into people's mouths like a lunatic. Go fuck yourself.

All these Incels who whine about how they can't attract a girlfriend don't realize how much better off they are being alone.

[quote] This isn't an "anti women forum" you dope, it's a forum for gay men.

Same difference, apparently.

r517 preach!!

At this point I feel dating a upper middle class 20 something straight women would be like playing Russian roulette.

R519 Does every female under 50 now save every email, text message and voicemail she receives so that she can use it against someone down the line?

[R520] Yes

It’s hard to believe all those posters who don’t understand that entertainment is a public relations business are gay men simply here to defend a gay forum from fraus.

I have noticed some of them don’t even know how to properly format when referencing another post.

How shocking to not understand your system from 1952 gramps. This site WAS largely populated by ancient white racist and misogynist gay men. You don't own the internet. You're as antiquated as your opinion and dispensable as ever. Old f@gs on DL are allies to no one but themselves. Times Up Gramps.

[quote]He marketed himself as a "nice guy.”

Everyone markets themself as a nice guy. How else would assholes, the mentally ill and misanthropes get jobs?

Gotta love the DL mindset that decides if you’re defending women, you must be one yourself, because an actual man would never defend women. It’s identical to the mindset of “Oh, you support gay rights? Well you must be a big fag, then.”

Lots of very damaged people post here.

I, too, hate the one accusation=career ruin. At least in a court of law there has to be probable cause and heresay is not allowed.

‘Heresay’

[quote]Everyone markets themself as a nice guy. How else would assholes, the mentally ill and misanthropes get jobs?

Run for President?

Work at troll farms?

He advocated for the women during gamergate and tried to position himself as some gentle, loving and woke nerd.

What is going on with his left eye? He looks like Petey the dog in The Little Rascals.

If she has evidence or proof why is she waiting to release it?

Due to all the hostility on this thread, I can only deduce that our sweet offender Chris Hardwick is posting on here.

I'm certain he has lawyers offering her huge sums of money to backpedal on her original accusations. It would be worth it for him if it can save his career.

He wasn't smart enough to hire a publicist or a crisis manager to assist in composing a more thoughtful and effective response to the accusations. He seems more hell-bent on causing further damage to her reputation. If she actually has the receipts on the blacklisting then she can release them and still sue in civil court. She gonna get paid regardless.

Apparently half his act for a time was bitter retelling of their relationship, I'd love to hear it now and surprised there aren't any clips..

He trashed her publicly in his act and now she's telling her side in a blog. He damaged her career now she's damaged his. It's fair.

I am "ff"ing all of r489's posts until he learns how to reference another post.

What a pathetic, weak bitch.

And I say this as someone who grew up with an abusive, alcoholic piece of shit father and a weak but very angry and cruel mother, who didn't have the balls to leave him despite getting the shit kicked out of her all the time.

You guys are pathetic losers.

You see, Chloe, r538 shows us all how it’s done.

State your boundaries, ladies!!!

So many fucked up Frau projecting there shit here. Those car wash cunts

Amazingly, R512, it manages to be both in a fair amount of posts. Take this thread for example, rampant misogyny. If a women's forum had rampant homophobia I'd want it shut down, but apparently you lack the clarity of thought to understand that something can be two things at once.

I wonder how many women DL has turned Repub? LOL!

Any woman who votes Republican lacks any self-esteem and has zero self-respect. No matter what.

I was pissed off over the Al Franken Bullshit. This is more like a straw threatening to break a camel's back.

It's bullshit, just like Al Franken.

R539 is exactly the type of damaged victim I predicted was dominating this thread at R81.

It is actually you who is the pathetic bitch, hon. Hate on women all you want, it just makes you as bad as your father. What a pity that you couldn't learn from that instead of repeating it.

that's just pathetic R546.

I'm really uncomfortable with this one. He tells her "I don't want you to leave your hotel room" at comiccon. What's the punishment if she does? He breaks up with her? That just doesn't ring true to me- not saying she's lying, but I'm not sure at all that he deserves to lose his entire career. Her claims of "sexual abuse" are out there. I don't find what she said to be abusive.

I want to be supportive of women, and those who've been abused, but I think this is a case of a terrible match. My mind is open, I could be convinced he deserves to lose everything, but so far, I don't quite see it.

R537 is that true? He trashed her? What did he say about her?

How so, R548? Eh, don't answer. Because it's not and you know it.

The biggest shock for me is finding out how old Hardwick actually is. He acts like a nerdy little boy. I grew to really dislike him after watching him kiss ass on the Talking Dead show. I do agree that a lot of people would be in trouble if shitty things they did in past relationships came to light. But if he blacklisted her that is punishable.

I'm a woman and I disagree with everything R460 said.

Kazinsky better be careful because he has some skeletons in his closet.

I agree. If he actively tried to sabotage her career, I'm fine with him losing everything.

But, if it was like a case of someone calling him and saying "hey is it cool with you if we use her" in a job which would've put her in proximity of him and he said "not really"- then it's back to a more gray area for me.

I read over at a frau board and because they think he is a cutie they are blaming the girl. Seems to be happening a bit here too.

R555 to be clear, I'm not blaming the girl.

I'm questioning him losing the life he made for himself over it.

If he did do that, then bring charges. This public shaming shit has got to stop.

I hope they pull him off Talking Dead, that show sucks and he makes it worse

He's not a cute guy. He's a manorexic 50 year old trying to look thirty. Desperate edge to the douche and he's fucking smarmy as fuck. There is zero reason to fire him at this point though.

AMC are assholes for dumping him so quickly. Did they really think the entire country was about to boycott all of their shows because of his crazy ex-girlfriend?

On What The Flick they confirmed he did work to get her blackballed.

You are wrong on sooo many levels, R547, including your apparent assumption that I'm male.

J'adore R400!

I agree with r560

R561 post the link or the source.

Although if it's his show or a show he works on, I can see not wanting an ex on it too.

R555, I’m not blaming her. I believe her. But this should have been handled legally.

I think there’s more to why he’s being dropped. A bad relationship is not a good reason.

And men need to stop publicly shaming women for bad relationships too, btw.

Go against Hearst money and lawyers in a court her great grampy probably paid for or self publish online? Hmmm, what to do?

He trashed her publicly first and he tried to ruin her career first.

Room temp IQ Patty needs to revisit her ridiculous tweet...

I agree. What she claims is probably true. But for companies to terminate someone's livelihood based on unsubstantiated rumors is wrong. If she's lying he should immediately file a lawsuit against her.

Except he won’t, R569. And what does that tell you?

R569, it makes you think that there may be some proof to those rumors. He seems a bit crazed in his desire to still make her look bad and gaslight her.

AMC and NBC haven't terminated him. They are investigating, and already know the outcome. Termination is coming.

What a lot of folks don’t grasp is that media companies don’t just fire these guys after one blog post. The post went viral, they started investigating, and not only were the writer’s allegations accepted as credible, but very likely more, potentially worse information came out. It sounds like his bad reputation was well known in the industry. The douche comparing him to Kermit the Frog doesn’t get that guys like that exploit people’s innocent perceptions of them. That’s what predators do.

Very few of these guys sue. Hardwick hasn’t announced any legal action. Weinstein is trying but, well, good luck with that. It’s notable that this supposed witch hunt hasn’t produced any credible victims yet. Taken with the lack of widespread backlash, it’s telling. I’ve yet to meet a woman that doubts the validity of #metoo. I’m a gay man who favors feminist women so I may live in an echo chamber, but to me, that doesn’t alter the truth on bit.

Yikes - texts from Chris and Chloe.

Publishing a public letter about your relationship problems is cowardly, period. Deal with it like an adult, legally. Any sympathy I’d have evaporates with that childish move.

Well well well, I have to think about those texts for a few moments. I bet Chloe has better ones to release....

R576 I am in complete agreement.

I'm sure she has her own messages, so what. Harwick said it was a volatile relationship and it's looking like the crazy was a two way street, just as he said in his statement. Her own essay made her look like she had issues.

You're not very perceptive R578. Wait and see.

Funny how she forgot to mention the cheating and begging to take her back when she penned that essay.

Alright, after reading that long ass text to her, I have to say he doesn't sound like an asshole to me. I've dated assholes (and it was my own fault for sticking around when I knew better) and our breakup messages were nothing like that.

Unless she releases something else to back up her claims I am not buying her story.

Serious question, are millennial women capable of taking any responsibility for their dating lives at all? They seem to want all the freedom of adulthood and all the protections of childhood,like a perpetual adolescence. It's just not sustainable.

Him sicking TMZ on her is just gross, apparently, he needs that tiny uncle Tom Harvey to fight his battles for him.

So, not only is she supposed to be unquestioningly believed, he's not even allowed to provide some evidence to demonstrate that her story isn't entirely true after she fucked up his career?

You're gross R583.

Nah, nah. You're amateurs. He released that one long ass semi-reasonable sounding text and her little begs for more. But that text is an essay in trying to shame and control her while trying to appear reasonable and contrite. I am positive she had scores of MANIAC texts from him calling her every name in the book and threatening her in many ways.

Wait and see.

Fuck you R584 once it came out that he did try and sabotage her career he lost any right to whine.

J'ACCUSE!

Are we going to need at Part 2 of this damned thread?

Let's hope this thread just dies a natural death.

Thread two needed for his present texts and hers to come. It’s begun! Sit back and hold on for this psychotic ride between two manipulative individuals.

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He's keeping texts and that's not crazy?

[quote]He's keeping texts and that's not crazy?

I don’t think so. I don’t ordinarily purge my phone of texts. I’ve got texts from years ago. Just haven’t bothered to delete them.

What she said can be true and she can STILL have sent those texts. It clearly took her a bit to get some sense about the whole situation.

Poo.

Poo.

Poo.

Poo.

Poo.

You've won the internet.

Your cellular phone company can pull up old texts too. I have done this before.