Halloween (2018)

Aaahhhh!!!

We already have an official thread which features her noble rank in the thread title, like God intended when He bestowed it on her.

Jamie Lee's mother is in this?????????!!!!!!!!

R2 And now we have another thread you cunt.

Totally.

I hate people who say “drop.”

cool

[Quote] Jamie Lee's mother is in this?????????!!!!!!!!

Pretty sure she was also in H20.

Teaser is out. Trailer tomorrow. I LOVE the modification/aging of the mask.

Spoilers

I haven't seen anything in 15+ years that really scared me. I don't remember the last movie that really "scared" me and I couldn't sleep. Do we age out of it? Is the genre dead?

R22 The Strangers did it for me. Very Halloween esque

I’m definitely desensitized, r11.

But I’m also a jaded smart ass.

FYI, A QUIET PLACE, LIFE and THE BOY are the scariest movies I’ve seen in recent years.

But there’s a lot of well-done, creative horror flicks like GET OUT, LIGHTS OUT, IT or ALIEN:COVENANT.

R13 I forget to mention Get Out. That and The Strangers are probably my favorite horror films of the last 10 years. The Witch was pretty unnerving, too.

Another 'Fresh" idea from Hollywood...Now they tell me that people go to film schools to produce this shit ?

can't wait to see the trailer today.

[Quote] But there’s a lot of well-done, creative horror flicks like GET OUT, LIGHTS OUT, IT or ALIEN:COVENANT

Alien Covenant is considered a horror movie?

The only thing scary about Alien Covenant was the sheer volume of fecal matter the creative team shat upon the legacy of Alien.

Don't have much hope for this one. Haven't liked any of them since part 4.

The first footage looks promising if not groundbreaking

Fuck this movie and H20

Omfg. The trailer is out and has exceeded my expectations. They nailed the tone of dread

Jamie looks badass with that shotgun!

I already spotted a few homages to the other sequels like they promised. The patients walking in the rain and the bed sheet gig from part 1. The gas station mechanic murder from part 4. The bathroom stall scene from part 6 AND Rob Zombie's remake.

This is going to be fun. I really hope they add a spiritual/supernatural twist to this. Think the movie Fallen, where the demonic spirit of the killer can jump from body to body.

Looks good.

If this is successful then I can almost guarantee 20th Century Fox will green light the Alien movie with Ripley the director from District 9 wants to do.

R26 Lets hope so. Maybe they'll do another Friday movie too..?

Maybe, R27! Let’s get back to Mrs. Voorhies (even though the actress has passed away). But, Sigorney wants to play Ripley again.

[Quote] Let’s get back to Mrs. Voorhies (even though the actress has passed away).

There's a 80% chance they'd fuck up the casting for that character.

Maybe’s Mrs. Vooehies sister takes revenge on Camp Crystal Lake.

Hopefully not, R29.

R30 And she'll inevitably vs Freddy....or maybe Pinhead in a later sequel lol

Lol! Yes! Mrs. Voorhies vs Julian (from Hellraiser).

Julia

The bathroom scene is also an homage to H20

Another homage from both parts 1 and 2 is the two kids bumping into Michael. One is carrying a radio.

Good catches, R36 and R35.

If those movies actually scared you, R13, it's a wonder you even leave the house.

Is The Boy any good?

Also spotted a Halloween III homage. Right after Laurie tells people to run, you see kids wearing the Silver Shamrock masks.

How will they explain the sequels? Just Hollywood embellishing on Laurie Strode’s life?

So Michael is NOT her bio brother??!

The film is just titled Halloween?

Maybe like The Amityville Horror? The recent movie was presented as the actual timeline whereas all of the other movies were Hollywood's take on the original experience/book. The characters in the new Amityville Horror watched the old films on TV, not suspecting that the evil was real in their house.

The other Halloween movies were Hollywood exploiting the Haddonfield Tragedy or something like that. And now here is where the main characters are 40 years later.

Maybe they’ll explain Laurie’s horrendous wig in part 2?

I really love the composition of the scene when the documentary crew presents Michael with his mask. What a strange and totally evocative recreation set up. It seems each patient is chained to the floor.

The overall tone of the the trailer reminds me of the tone of Zombie's remake which is a good thing. Zombie's biggest mistake was humanizing Michael. But he nailed the tone, dread and horror which allows both his remakes to transcend the material and succeed as s sort of big budget fan fiction. It helps that the acting and overall production values are aces.

This seems like it'll be a blend of the best parts of what I consider the best installments in the franchise: part 1, part 4, part 6 and Zombie's part 1 and 2. These are the four I feel hold up as parts of a bigger whole and as fun, individual horror pics

Is that sarcastic smoking nurse is this one? I loved her.

It looks televisual rather than a cinematic, and that's a real shame. What made the Carpenter film so compelling to watch wasn't the plot, the script or the characters, it was how he expertly manipulated the frame, playing the audience like a Pied Piper on a steadicam. In other words, not [italic]what[/italic] but [italic]how.[/italic]

I think that's because all films are shot on digital, r48.

Anyway, Michael isn't her brother?

I hope Laurie doesn't die. I hate it when a survivor from a past movie dies in the sequel.

I didn't just mean the lighting, R49. It's the way Carpenter used that alongside composition and shot choice to construct meaning.

And yeah, it looks like there's some serious retconning going on. Maybe the events of Halloween II will be explained away as the product of Laurie's drug and PTSD-fuelled nightmares?

FWIW, I'm still looking forward to it, if only for JLC, Judi Greer, Will Patton and the Carpenter soundtrack. Oh and the mask looks cool.

I highly doubt Jamie Lee will be coming back from another sequel. Either she dies in this one or at the beginning of the next one aallah Resurrection

Well the most obvious ending is that she kills him, and then becomes him.

r53 we did that already

I haven’t liked any of the Halloween sequels I’ve seen, and there are many I haven’t seen (yuck, why bother?). But the original is one of my all time favorite movies. I owned the VHS in 1987 or 88 when i was in 3rd grade. Now I own three different blu ray releases of it.

This new one looks entertaining, I guess, but the digital video look that plagues almost all movies nowadays (but not all of them, as a poster upthread claimed) really takes me out of them and makes them seem... cheap? Like a Netflix original series? Too crystal clear and defined.

I did like Get Out and It Follows quite a bit—it’s really difficult to find good horror movies nowadays—but I was distracted some of the time by the digital photography. I just need the movies I watch to look like FILMS. I couldn’t be less interested in 4K digital video or CGI or any of that shit.

The last new movie I saw shot on film, which looked freaking amazing, was The Paperboy with Nicole Kidman, McConaughey, Zac Efron and John Cusack. It was gorgeous.

R40 Thanks for pointing that one out.

R55 I miss film, too. It gives films a more voyeuristic aesthetic

R28 I vote Jessica Lange as Ms. Voorhies

R48 one of the best shots in the film.

Side note: I absolutely love Nancy Loomis.

R39 THE Boy isn’t as bad as you would expect but I wouldn’t call it a good horror film.

The new Halloween is a direct sequel to the original and ignores EVERY SEQUEL. Hence, mike and Laurie arent siblings as that plot device wasnt added until the second movie.

Retconning is nothing with Halloween. H20 retconned the sequels that featured Laurie Strode's daughter Jamie and also that it was that Laurie died offscreen.

Originally H20 was going to link them all with a girl giving a report in class about the Halloween murders and mentioning the events that happened '88, '89 and '95. When Laurie/Keri hears that her daughter was killed, she runs to the bathroom to puke.

The Golden State Killer nightmare reminds us these things are all too real.

Lock. Your. DOORS.

R60 Thanks for answering.

R63 I remember reading that in 1998 before H20 came out as well. Did they film those scenes?

The comic book adaptations by Chaos in the Late 1990s put EVERYTHING in seamlessly. It was an amazing work of continuity!

[Quote] The comic book adaptations by Chaos in the Late 1990s put EVERYTHING in seamlessly. It was an amazing work of continuity!

What happens in them?

In the Chaos comic books, Laurie had Danielle Harris and THEN faked her own death.

The Thorn stuff is very important in the comics, too. People forget that the Druids and the Thorn were part of the official novelization of 'Halloween' in 1978, where it is ALSO hinted that there is some connection between Michael and Laurie. This is BEFORE Carpenter's claims that he was drunk and threw the sibling connection in there in 1981.

The Chaos 'Halloween' comics used ALL source material and wove it together pretty seamlessly. The comics timeline went from 1963 to 2002, I believe.

That’s a pretty good artistic Instagram photo for gym bro Michael Meyers in the OP. #gayboy #nofilter #plantbased #glutenfree #fitspo

R66, they didn't film it but it was in the original script.

[quote][R26] Lets hope so. Maybe they'll do another Friday movie too..?

Ice Cube has already said he wants to do another Friday.

Ooooh, R71!

Today is a good day.

[Quote] Ice Cube has already said he wants to do another Friday.

It's sad that it took me a second to get it lol

Lol.

This should be called: Michael: The Golden Years, in which Michael laments that he escaped from the asylum because he'd actually have healthcare to deal with aching knees from jumping out of windows, bad back from being shot and carpal tunnel syndrome from stabbing people. Plus, kids are no longer afraid of him because he can only kill one at a time, while school shooters manage to kill dozens in a clip. What's a crazed psycho to do when there's a crazed psycho in White House?

It's an insult to the original .

Laurie’s daughter died?

Can’t wait

R68 .Fascinating. I owned and read the original novelization and loved it. I'd love to get a hold of these comics you mentioned.

I've always loved the high drama aspect of the Halloween mythos. It lends itself to a dark, gothic familial tale

Does Michael every get horny?

R81

He's probably asexual.

R81, Sort of. Read below.

R78, Yes, Jamie died in 'Halloween: The Revenge of Michael Myers' in 1995. Or did she?

The Druids who freed Michael at the end of H5 (with the Thorn tattoo, remember?) in 1989 later captured Jamie and impregnated her with MM's seed (yes, her uncle's baby). Jamie has help escaping with the baby boy who is meant to house Michael's soul. The Thorn Druids wanted Michael to live on in this new body.

Anyway, Jamie escapes with the baby and leaves him in a bus terminal and runs away to lead Michael off the track. Michael kills Jamie with a hay shredder. However, now-adult Tommy Doyle (Laurie Strode's babysitting job in H1) finds the baby and takes it back to Haddonfield to keep it safe from the Thorn Druids. Tommy, y'see, knows all about the Druids and Michael's longevity due to their evil powers.

I said "Or did she?" about Jamie dying because in the Producer's Cut of 'Halloween: The Revenge of Michael Myers' Jamie did not get shredded to death. This cut of the movie makes so much more sense than the released version. This cut implies that the Druids had Michael rape Jamie rather than artificial insemination.

He’s naked underneath those coveralls.

I forgot to mention in R83 that the producers didn't want to pay DL Fave Danielle Harris very much for 'Halloween: The Revenge of Michael Myers' so she refused the part, thus some nobody played Jamie in this movie.

I guess in this timeline, Tyra Banks never died.

The first is one of my favorite horror movies ever but the series became one big clusterfuck.

It became a horror movie soap opera with so many different storylines going on and retconning things

The beauty of the first film is how PURE it is

Just plain, PURE evil

I hope they bring back those little musical stingers.

The beginning of the theme music for 1981's 'Halloween II' is the scariest ever!

What the fuck was up with that Tina character from Halloween 5?

Did the actress have blackmail on the producers or something?

Talk about an annoying character that you can't wait to see get killed!

R83, you mean the CURSE of Michael Myers. Revenge was part 5, 6 was the Curse.

4 is the best sequel but this new one looks great. And to an earlier poster this new one is not an insult the original. 5,6 , 8 and the Zombie versions were insults to the original. Get off your white high horse (from H2).

Just because you didn't like the sequels doesn't mean there aren't thousands of other people out there who enjoyed them and appreciate the whole mythology.

I think the new trailer is scary and I can't wait to see the film.

However, I am a fan of the franchise and continuity.

The Rob Zombie hillbilly meth-induced shit is not continuity, despite Danielle Harris.

Part II is the best sequel to me because of that scary fucking score and Dean Cundey’s masterful cinematography. Plus, it’s the only sequel (besides Season of the Witch) to capture the feel of the original.

Part didn't capture anything of the original. It was awful.

Part 4 is perfect sequel and comes closest to capturing the cold, dark dread of the original.

Never knew about this.

[quote]Part didn't capture anything of the original. It was awful.

If you mean part 2, then I disagree. What puts part 4 below it for me is many things, namely the crappy too-white mask and football pads the actor playing Myers wore, the lack of a Dean Cundey look and feel to the film, the watered down Halloween theme and not-scary score, and the fact that it was filmed in Utah (which was always a bone of contention for me because Carpenter and Cundey made Pasadena look scary as fuck, and Salt Lake City just can’t compare). I was also never gung ho about Michael chasing a little girl. It just didn’t have that umph. So yeah, part 4 sucks by comparison.

R94, Baby I am with YOU! I actually love part 2 MORE than Halloween.

The score is INSANE. The deaths are INSANE. The chase sequences are INSANE.

LOVE Part 2!

Part 4 is goid and solid and besides it doesn't have that horrid Tina character

That would be Halloween 5

r99 God, Tina was such a cunt! I don't mind the actress but the character was so stupid, and acted like she was high all the time.

Plus Rachel was way better.

The mask in 5 was absolutely horrific. Mishapen with a weird neck, bad hair and a receding hairline. WTF were they thinking?

The production designer on part 5 must’ve been on dope to substitute a gothic mansion for the Myers house. It’s ridiculous. Were there no normal sized homes in SLC that could’ve stood in for the house?

I love Part 2 more than the original also, R98

I love Part 4 but I hated the surprised bad-brow-lift expression. It's like someone just told Michael Myers Jamie Lee Curtis wasn't in this one.

does Jamie lee show her cock? she has a penis and a vag u know....or did.

HOT

I hope it aint directed by that rob zombie fug....

ms Jamie had the penis removed long ago, tho her clit is 3 inches long....

I’d take Michael’s load. He looks hot.

Don Shanks, who played MM in part 5, is hot.

Despite the clever editing in the gas station scene and that the tall guy who was holding Michael's mask in the prison scene seemingly is being attacked by "Michael", does anybody think that HE will be the real killer?

I think he looks like he's head butting the stall door to get it open.- to kill the woman and then it's him, not the original Michael, who is shown putting on the mask. He's exactly Michael's height.

[quote]I think he looks like he's head butting the stall door to get it open.-

When I saw the trailer I thought Michael was using the guy's head as a battering ram.

James Jude Courtney and the original Shape, Nick Castle, are both playing Michael Myers.

Why do they call him The Shape? So pretentious and silleh.

Friday the 13th called Mrs. Voorhees The Prowler in the script.

R114 lmao

[quote]Why do they call him The Shape?

Carpenter called him that in the original because he was this figure that moved around in the shadows and in the background.

Apparently, they were going to make a movie where they incorporated all the sequels. Wisely, they ditched that idea. They wrote 80 different scripts before settling on having this be a sequel to the original only.

I would love to see how they would have incorporated all the sequels. Especially H20. I'm sure they would have had to throw out the awful Resurrection or else say Laurie survived the stabbing and fall.

They better let us know what some of the plans were going to be. I would have loved if they left part 2 in the timeline but understand why they didn't.

Part II is one of my faves, but I’m glad they chose to ignore it if nothing more than to be done with the whole brother/sister angle.

Why was the brother/sister angle bad? It made sense but I can see why they wanted to get away from it.

^It just felt tacked on and ridiculous. Michael wasn’t related to Laurie. She just happened to be the unfortunate one to go up to the Myers house that morning and he spotted her and stalked her. That’s it. Carpenter admitted he was drunk and suffering from writers block when he concocted that subplot while writing part II.

It's been awhile since I've seen Halloween 2 but isn't it a surprise to Laurie that Michael is her brother? If so, THAT'S what's stupid. Last name (Strode) or not. . .if shes living in the same small town (Haddonfield) with the same parents. . .how the hell did she not know? What, did an entire TOWN promise her parents they'd keep it a secret from her? If I'm remembering this right, it's too stupid for words.

Part 1 of the Comic Con panel... if you can get past the moderator's "you go gurl!" isms.

Part 2

I think It was scary .

How come Carpenter didn't direct this one?

He was working on a reboot of Lawrence of Arabia, Rose.

What's the story with David Gordon Green (fantastic filmmaker, by the way)? I never heard anything about him. Apparently, not married. He has that old lesbian thing going in some pictures.

Does anyone remember the Halloween where Michael is placed in a County Jail cell and is broken out by some mysterious man in black?

R126, he kind of looks like Ryan Eggold if he was left on a radiator.

I can't believe I used to like films like this. Now, just watching the trailer gave me heart palpitations. My old-er self can't handle movies like this anymore. However, I am so happy to see Jamie Lee Curtis is back! I am sure it is going to be a whopper!

R129 types fat.

R130> Nope - Actually, I am thin (BMI 21). I may type *old* though at 48 ;) I just can't stomach horror movies (or roller coasters) anymore. Something new in the last 10 years.

OK, I am slow.... I get it - Whopper, Burger King, fat people ...LOL! I meant Whopper as in big success, big hit.

That's okay, R129/R132, we still love you anyway.

In H2, it was revealed that Laurie was adopted by the Strodes as a baby. She had no real recollection of her family except for a few flashbacks she has of visiting Michael in the sanitarium as a young girl.

Still, would love to hear the direction they would have gone if they incorporated all or most of the sequels.

Jamie Lee looks horrible with the long grey hair.

R136 she does. Why not just put on a colored wig? She is so fucking anal about keeping her grey hair.

At least this Laurie wig is a lot better than the abomination she wore in HII.

[Quote] At least this Laurie wig is a lot better than the abomination she wore in HII.

I thought fans were exaggerating until i watched H2 for the first time last week. I'm glad you used the word abomination.

They've hinted they are doing a sequel if this one performs well. If so, since JLC has said this is her last time playing Laurie (though she has said that a few times before), does that mean Laurie Strode will be killed by MM? If so, what a bummer. I can't imagine them doing a sequel and her being alive but not in it.

Does anyone know if she intended to have a full on starring role in Resurrection or was it is always a cameo? If it was intended to be a full on starring role, I'm sure once she saw the script she said "fuck this" and opted for the cameo. They had to have always planned for the person she chopped the head off of in H20 to not be MM due to the fact she signed on for 2 films. Everyone always says that was retconned to do Resurrection but how so if she planned on doing 2 films from the beginning?

Sorry for so many questions.

It’s no coincidence the sibling angle was tacked on due to part 2 being released the year after empire strikes back where it was revealed Vader was Luke’s father

For those who don’t know, Carpenter is a big fat liar and nothing he says should ever be taken at face value.

R140, Jamie Lee agreed to return for a sequel under the condition that she be killed off in the beginning. She never intended to be the star.

R142 I could have sworn I read after she read the script for Resurrection she then opted to do a cameo instead. Why would she want her character to have such a lame, sad ending? It doesn't make sense.

From what I heard, Jamie Lee signed on for H20 and in her contract, it said that, if there WAS to be a sequel she'd have to do a cameo. She was a little weirded out by that and said "but I thought this was the final one" and they said "sure, of course it is, but just in case." She signed anyway. I think she got the first draft of Resurrection and it really was just a tiny little 30 second cameo and she felt that she owed it to the fans to at least do a solid 10 minute opening and give Laurie a real sendoff. It's still a pretty shitty scene, but it's infinitely better than what came after it. That has to be one of the worst horror sequels of all time.

I hope this one's good. It has great people behind the scenes and I like that it's shitcanning the family angle which took away a lot of the fear. I like that Carpenter is doing the score and seems a bit more hands on than he has been on other projects he's been "executive producer" on. The test screening reports seem to suggest that this is the best and scariest sequel since the original and I sure hope that's true.

She shouldn't have allowed LS to be killed off in that awful film. That was a disservice to fans. Her cameo was probably at the end when she saves the day? Who knows. But never allow your iconic character to be disrespected that was and killed off in that movie.

Go Laurie Strode!

Trailer # 2 is out now.

The first trailer is so much better.

International trailer with different footage.

I don't understand why they're releasing so much of the footage. You can, actually, piece together some of the plot from all of it.

And Michael seems to be rather visible throughout the film.

They are really milking this teat dry.

Jason Blum, David Gordon Green, Jamie Lee Curtis and John Carpenter are probably going to make the best movie in the franchise.

With these talents on it for a change, we might actually get something worthy of the original. At any rate, it will be coherent and taut.

CALLING IT NOW:

HALLOWEEN 2018 WILL BE THE SECOND-BEST MOVIE IN THE FRANCHISE, IF NOT BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL.

Anyone wanna bet?

$200 says it will get over 70% on rottentomatoes by Week 3 of release, be a hit and please most HALLOWEEN fans.

Thanks for posting that R149

You're welcome R153

I have a good feeling about this. I know people who saw test screenings and they said it was easily the best one since the original. Gory, but not too gory, some good scares, lots of suspense, and great performances by Jamie Lee and Judy Greer.

The reviews are coming in and they are

!! EXCELLENT!!!!

The film premiered at some festival last night.

Variety, Hollywood Reporter, EW- ect

Who needs fiction when you have the real thing?

Love Judy Greer

Sounds like Judy Greer actually gets something to do here unlike every other movie she's usually in. For someone so talented, she always tends to get the short end of the stick. I'm pretty excited about this one.

Did anyone else here ever wish that Annie was the heroine of the original instead of Laurie?

I don’t hate Laurie or anything or even dislike her. I just really like Annie

So, I guess they're just going to recant Laurie Strode's death from HALLOWEEN: RESSURECTION to say she just dozed off after falling to her death.

Do you guys buy it?

Grandma Laurie Strode in the trailer: "I've been preparing for this for a long time ..."

= Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor in TERMINATOR 2.

Pretty derivative idea, but it works.

Dear r150,

HALLOWEEN already exposed Michael Myers' face early on. He was blond and good-looking in the first movie; not much to see. So the franchise already blew that wad instead of making him disfigured and freaky like Jason or Freddy.

IFHH

I saw the trailer on YT.

Did they mean to make Jamie Lee Curtis look like a 100 year old librarian on purpose?

[quote]I know people who saw test screenings and they said it was easily the best one since the original.

If it's as good as the original Halloween 2, then I'll be happy. That was the only one that captured the spirit of the original. Halloween 4 wasn't horrible but was indistinguishable from other slashers at the time. Plus the mask sucked. The mask was the only thing Rob Zombie did right. Those were average films by even Zombie's standards but they were worse Halloween sequels.

How I'd rank the films:

Halloween

Halloween 2 (original)

Halloween: H20 (Jamie Lee Curtis makes this movie)

Halloween 4

Rob Zombie's Halloween

Halloween 5

Halloween 6 (the theatrical and producer's cut are equally abysmal)

Rob Zombie's Halloween 2

Halloween Resurrection

Rob Zombie's Halloween is a hard film to rank because judged as a standalone film, it's merely average but as a part of the Halloween mythos, it fails horribly. Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 is one of the most frustrating films I've ever seen but the first 20 minutes are very good.

Didn't know if I should rank Season of the Witch since Michael Myers isn't it it but judged solely as it's own thing, it still would fall in teh bottom 5.

Actually, r168, there's no continuity with HALLOWEEN 3 through H20, either.

Part 3 was a standalone camp fest.

Parts 4, 5 and 6 claimed that Lauri Strode had died in a car accident and that Michael was part of some black magic cult getting his "evil" from "The Curse of Thorn."

All the HALLOWEENS after that were reboots that ignored the middle films.

Then Zombie rebooted again.

So this franchise is a mess of fits and starts, botches, reshoots and discontinuity.

Now, Jason Blum and David Gordon Green are going to have to pretend Laurie Strode didn't fall to her death in RESURRECTION.

I'll say this for Rob Zombie, however: He has a beautiful and unique style. The atmosphere he creates in his HALLOWEENS and LORDS OF SALEM is truly haunting, lyrical and wholly original. There's a personal poetry to it that would be amazing if it his plots, characters and action had more substance.

This franchise has always felt like a bizarre soap opera. It was probably for the best to take all that crap out and just pick up after the original. I know they tried to do that with H20, but they still acknowledged that there had been other murders and no one ever said what actually happened to Michael after 2. We hear that Loomis' health declined because of the burns and was nursed by Marion Chambers until his death, but they never really account for Michael. By the time he shows up in the opening scene, he already has his new mask and everything.

I'm thrilled to hear the positive reports from the early screenings of this one. I have a feeling it's going to be printing money this October. Everyone I know seems to want to see this - from young kids to gay men to 67 year old grandmothers. It's hitting all the demographics.

My rankings:

HALLOWEEN (1978) HALLOWEEN: H20: 20 YEARS LATER HALLOWEEN 2 (1981) HALLOWEEN: THE CURSE OF MICHAEL MYERS HALLOWEEN (2007) HALLOWEEN 2 (2009) HALLOWEEN 5: THE REVENGE OF MICHAEL MYERS HALLOWEEN 4: THE RETURN OF MICHAEL MYERS HALLOWEEN 3: SEASON OF THE WITCH HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION

H20 gets second place because of the great character development with Jamie Lee Curtis and Josh Hartnett. Her character has spunk and they came up with a true psychological conflict between mother and son that would happen. It also had slick production values and satisfying action. It wasn't super scary, but the attack when Hartnett and Michelle Williams were locked behind the gate was.

The production-plagued CURSE OF MICHAEL MYERS gets higher on my list because the final cut makes sense and provides an intriguing character and performance by Paul Rudd.

I don't like 4 and 5 because I can't get into a little girl heroine (The Jake Lloyd Effect) and the cops behave BEYOND STUPIDLY in those movies.

The worst is just RESURRECTION because of the cheap pandering to "Generation Tech," stupid behavior, no scares and too many characters, none of which are likeable. Busta Rhymes is supposed to be the hero, but he set everyone up, defrauded them and got everyone killed. So I was not rooting for his scumbag character at all. The guy I hated won in the end and that was supposed to be cool.

Will they kill off LS? I don't think they should but if they have a sequel to this JLC has said she isn't playing LS anymore but who knows. That could be a fake out. It would suck for her to wait 40 years for him to kill her.

R172, that is my GRAVE CONCERN. One reviewer said on her twitter "Why am I crying at the end of Halloween??"

I just don't want Laurie to die. But the press says "Laurie's final confrontation"

And to posters above, I LOVE Halloween 2 and stand by this. In fact, I love Halloween 2 more than Halloween!!!

R171 She really becomes a badass in H20. The only thing that bothered me about the original H2 is how helpless she is for the majority of it. Too bad the rest of H20 isn't as good as she is but it's certainly not bad. It does benefit from having future stars Michelle Williams and Josh Hartnett in the cast. The LL Cool J comic relief was pretty bad though as was the recycled score and CGI mask that changes from shot to shot. For me H2 has the edge due to its atmosphere, inventive kills, and claustrophobic setting, and Michael Myers still looking and acting like he does in the original.

R169 The opening dream sequence in Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 was excellent and reminded me why I loved the original sequel so much. However, Laurie and Dr. Loomis are so unlikable in their roles, and the rest of the film after the prologue is just so bizarre. Making Michael a cannibal wasn't even the worst of it. The ending was monumentally stupid as well. The alternate ending on the blu ray was even worse and proves that Zombie should stick to original films.

I ddin't care for the Jamie Lloyd trilogy but I give a pass for part 4 since I love the autumn setting so much and Danielle Harris was a really good child actress (not quite as successful as an adult if you ask me). Plus it had an interesting ending that the following sequels completely ignore. Dr. Loomis is also less shady in this one.

H20 was a GOOD DRAMA basically. Needed more gore.

I am thrilled that this film is being called extremely violent!

Sorry, I like my horrors filled with HORROR.

I just don't want Laurie to die. For him to finally GET her would be sad and disappointing. She needs to be the final FINAL girl.

H20 was good and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Wish it was longer with better kills but overall, it was satisfying.

H2 was a really good sequal like F13-2 was.

I don’t like the gore

I saw it at the midnight screening in Toronto this weekend, and I’m happy to report that it’s a solid entry in the franchise, definitely the best of the sequels (I know, the bar ain’t exactly high but still). The tone is great, and there are a couple of set pieces that are very good. The last act is particularly satisfying. My main issue with the movie is that they have a character who acts in a way that makes no sense in order to retrospectively account for how Michael Myers escaped during his transfer to another facility (which happens off screen earlier in the film). I really had a problem with that scene, but fortunately it’s a relatively minor flaw. The only redeeming value of this unexpected narrative development is that it sets up the big final confrontation between MM and Laurie Strode, but I can’t see why they couldn’t have figured out a better way to make this come about.

Spoiler alert: Laurie Strode doesn’t die at the end, so no need to worry about her.

I wish that no-nonsense smoking nurse was in this too.

r178 No way they would risk that big of a spoiler getting out. I think they shot alternate endings and will choose the one they want right before release. I certainly am crossing my fingers what you say is true and LS doesn't die.

I am out of all Halloween threads as of now! That poster who saw the film has a spoiler alert which I almost read!

OUT!

And I disagree, this film NEEDS GORE.

And the more reviews I read say that it is an emotional ending. SCARY!!

My god someone has a picture of the screen from the screening with the credits rolling and it even has the font with orange lettering from the original!!!!

I am beyond psyched!

And now gone from here until I see this film in 6 weeks!

I don't mind spoilers at all. I actually like to know what is going to happen.

A horror film doesn’t need gore to be scary. The original Halloween is a testament to this. I am among those who are meh about the Jamie Lloyd trilogy because of the fact that the heroine is a child, and the Salt Lake City locales don’t have that claustrophobic atmosphere of the Dean Cundey-lensed Carpenter films. H II is my favorite sequel for sure. I’m totally psyched about seeing this new film.

R180, the movie that was screened in Toronto on Saturday is the one that they will release in theaters in October. I don’t think there is an alternative version with a different ending waiting in the wings. And given how well the film played (it got a standing ovation from the audience), I don’t think the filmmakers are concerned about tweaking the ending.

R181, you’re going to love the opening credits, they’re great and a real throwback to the original!

Fuck me. I have to avoid spoilers for the next 6 weeks?

I saw it at TIFF and will say see it with a packed audience and with Halloween fans. You will have a fucking blast! There are not only references to Halloween sequels but other horror movies including the early '80s slashers.

Jamie Lee is fucking awesome in it. But that's no surprise.

And some of the best casting of child actors ever.

I agree. I don't care if it has a lot of gore or sex. I loved the first Insidious movie because it was scary and I could watch it with the niece and nephew. I get sick of sex and extreme gore. It is fine in some movies but there needs to be a balance. I am no prude at all but a nice, good horror movie like the original Halloween, or heck even the original F13 wasn't that gory or had explicit nudity or sex.

Just don't kill Laurie Strode!

Not a huge fan of slashers, but am looking forward to this. I tend to like the scary/suspenseful horror movies.

I agree. The magic of the original is it had almost no gore. It was smart horror

Is there an actual surprise cameo in this?

[quote]I saw it at the midnight screening in Toronto this weekend

It's not difficult to read online reviews from Toronto and pretend you were there.

For years and years and years, I was the only one on Datalounge who attended film festivals and shared details early. Then I made the mistake of sharing my preview of CALL ME BY YOUR NAME at the Sundance Film Festival with the bipolar maniacs in the CMBYN thread, and one of them has been LYING ABOUT INSIDER INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE to one-up me ever since.

It stalks me in other movie threads and you can see it imitating my insight for attention @ r155. It thinks, rages and cyber-stalks celebrities like Damon Kreuzer and I wish it would get medicated and make friends with other bipolar people in his own city instead of trolling Datalounge.

Michael Myers has always needed more variety in his weaponry and kills than the Basic Kitchen Knife, r175. That shit gets old and boring.

That's part of the reason why I prefer the Friday the 13th franchise -- much more inventive and entertaining kills.

Isn’t it funny how three of the greatest “slasher” films have almost no onscreen blood and gore at all?

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

Black Christmas

Halloween

R192 = Sean Cunningham

I actually prefer the Friday the 13th series as a whole, though I still think the original Halloween is the best slasher of them all.

r193 I like all of those. I just saw Black Christmas for the first time last winter. I was not even born when it came out. I was looking up different horror movies which were highly rated, came across BC and WOW, loved it.

I really enjoy Original Halloween, H2, H20 (though it was a tad dull in the middle and LL Cool J was useless and annoying),Original F13, F13-2.

The original was filmed in about 3 weeks for "peanuts". Carpenter got a percentage of the profits instead of a salary, so he's probably still quite wealthy.

No, R175-you like GORE. There is a difference between gore and horror.