Portlandia bakery fires employees for denying black woman service after closing

We won't be happy until every white person in America hates us with the heat of 1,000 suns!

I knew the timid real life racists would flock to the internet after their avatar Roseanne got spanked by her own tweets.

lose lose

The owners of the bakery basically admitted they did not have a proper and legal reason to fire the 2 employees when they admitted the employees "did nothing wrong". If they sue they'll probably win.

Is this the infamous anti-gay bakery?

If they they denied tripod white woken service BEFORE the black woman entered due to closing, there was no racist intent there.

Wow. Nice typin', R6.

Or maybe they already regretted letting the first two in and finally decided to sack up and say "We're closed," at number three (regardless of who it was) like they should have all along.

R8, reread the circumstances. I think you misunderstood what happened.

So this woman is taking the Oprah action plan. Beat on the door even though the shop is already closed and then claim racism.

Read it again r8. It’s implied the two white women were also turned away.

Here are the owners. The one standing up looks as expected.

No publicity is bad publicity?

Oh ffs after seeing the two in that pic at R12 it's obvious that they staged this whole thing with the black lady.

Sounds like this was a planned PR stunt, especially since it’s tied to the Portland Repatations group. The Whitten guy in charge of it is a known con artist/self-promoter in SJW circles.

Sorry, R9. I thought you were referring to the few white people still inside who had ordered before closing.

Of course this is wrong but if it's an employment at will state then the employees are out of luck. Maybe they should make a stink and someone will come forward with a nice, new and better job. Maybe they should boycott the place until they rehire them. And get an apology from Lillian.

Or maybe they should firebomb the place.

[quote]The owners of the bakery basically admitted they did not have a proper and legal reason to fire the 2 employees

Oregon is an “at will employment” state. They can dismiss any employee at any time as long as it doesn’t violate the Civil Rights Act or Oregon anti-discrimination laws. Since they weren’t fired for race, religion, age, or sexual orientation reasons, there’s not much basis for a successful lawsuit.

Those employees should think about their white privilege and be thankful they can use their unemployment cheques to purchase pastries at any business that sells them, unlike black people who can only make the such purchases from bakeries during business hours because Portland is so racist.

Perhaps honesty and integrity is an option...

Can the employees sue? They should, but maybe they won't because there will be a media storm.

At least the owners properly stated that all people in Portland and Oregon are racist.

[quote] ... a black woman named "Lillian", who is well known in the area as a "professional equity activist" ....

What is a "professional equity activist"?

R22, this:

So are the 2 male owners gay men? I heard the people they fired were 2 women. This will not end well.

FFS, I worked in retail for many years, and in restaurants for many years. Thank gardenia I don't have to do that anymore, but fucking CLOSED MEANS CLOSED.

R18, if they were fired they probably won't get unemployment checks.

Amen r25. When I worked retail, I was ON that front door lock the moment the clock hit nine. Because as anyone who has worked retail/restaurant knows- there’s another 2+ hrs of clean up still to go.

[quote]if they were fired they probably won't get unemployment checks.

They will. A person gets unemployment when they lose their job through no fault of their own (ie they don't quit). Even if the employer objects, they can argue that they were not properly trained. My concern is that they might have been paid under the table in which case they can't collect unemployment. These owners seem just skeevy enough to not pay any employment expenses.

When I was in college, I worked as a cashier at a hotel restaurant. I got written up one time because I closed the restaurant door at 9:30 pm (restaurant hours were until 9:45 pm) and of course two assholes complained to the front desk that the restaurant wasn't opened (this was in a huge tourist town with hundreds of restaurants better than our chain hotel slop). But like others have said, once the restaurant closed, there was a ton of work to do. And our bitchy manageress DID NOT pay overtime. If you clocked out late, she'd yell at you. And she often told worers, "Clock out and then finish your work." I should have reported the bitch.

Take the black lady and the two co-owners and give them all to me.

(A) OR may be at will state but nothing precludes employment agreements that reserve termination for cause . Employees who are hired without paperwork (eg offer letter) are free to claim that employer and employees agreed that termination would be for cause only.

(B) Obvious they were fired because they were white. POC who turned away a black woman after hours wouldn’t have been fired.

(C) These cafe owners are ridiculous and they are trivializing the whole idea if social justice as a question of the woman’s feelings.

My co-workers were a smidge distressed when I emphatically didn't want to let customers in after closing until I showed them the statistics on robberies. 80% of all retail robberies occur at closing.

The employees who were fired were probably SJWs themselves and just as smug as the owners. Until they got eaten by their own. I’m sure only a certain type would work at the dump in the first place.

The bakery just extended their hours until 10pm.

That's racist r34. I am a WOC and I do not want sweets until 10:18 pm. I hope you get fired.

I live a mile away from Back To Eden bakery, and their baked goods are terrible.

Most places like that are known for their shitty food. Overhyped and shitty.

I'd love to video their interviews of replacement staff members. "Oh, there is no actual closing time, depending on the customer."

I watched her video, though I had to go to the Blaze to see it, and the whole time she’s talking about how she’s going to put them on blast for treating her this way. I just don’t get posting this kind of thing on the internet. If you feel a business has treated you poorly, especially a small one like this, why not approach management and let them try and rectify the matter. Then, if they don’t, knock yourself out, i guess. In general I think life is too short and would just not go back.

I’m also amazed that, at this point, people aren’t afraid of blowback from making internet scenes. They may get some initial validation, but the pendulum always swings back the other way and brings tons of negative attention.

[quote]I just don’t get posting this kind of thing on the internet.

Because structural racism ignores POC in traditional venues. We're finding out about racist incidents because of cell phone video and social media for a reason. Being denied service because of brown skin isn't a "just approach management" type of inconvenience. Racism is a repugnant crime.

It's unfortunate that baked goods are not easily spat into/onto.

That bitch deserves an extra thick gob of spit with phlegm. The kind with a few streaks of blood from the sinuses.

But where is the racism when they turned away white customers who had been there before her?

Shoulda gone straight to Dollar Tree and bought one of their DEEEEEE-licious pound cakes!

That is not necessarily true, R28, According to Oregon law:

Section 6

Denial of Benefits

What could stop or deny my benefits?

Some situations require the Employment Department to examine claims, determine eligi bility or issue administrative decisions. They include, but are not limited to:

• Quitting a job

• Being fired or suspended from a job

• Being unable to work

• Being away from your permanent residence

• Attending school or training

• Being self employed

• Being in jail

• Missing any work

• Turning down an offer of work

• Failing to actively seek work

• Receiving retirement pay (except social security)

The white people before this lady were just collateral damage, they don't matter.

[quote] The white people before this lady were just collateral damage, they don't matter.

Jumping the Shark

R18 I'm sure the employees are white. If they were black, and did this, then they wouldn't have been fired. Therefore, the employees were fired based on their race. Even though they did not have ill intent, based on their race (and Lillian's race), the impact was negative - again, they have been fired as a direct result of their race. The fired employees have a good case.

r33 I thought the same thing! Like, meh it's an asshole town and an asshole bakery and whoever worked there was probably an asshole too, and I can safely say I am right after I saw the pic of the owners. I bet the jobless two probably prided themselves on their gluten free muffins.

Who knew serving coffee and muffins would put people on the frontlines of the American race war?

Why did the black woman begin videotaping and saying she’s going to take down the bakery? For what reason? Did she not see the closed sign? Was she not able to tell time on her watch?

R51 to further the racial divisions in America. She's an "activist" who probably profits from racism essentially

R51 the videos have all been taken down, but there were people inside the bakery standing in line and ordering. There were also people sitting at tables. So when she came in and they said they were closed, she said she believed it was because she’s black as the people inside and in line we’re white.

I mean, I’ve been in that situation when I’ve missed the cut off in a restaurant/takeaway or a cashier sees me and puts down the “closed” thing on the conveyor belt in front of me because their shift is over. It’s annoying, but stores have to close and workers have breaks. An eyewitness said he heard the employees talking and saying not to take any more customers before she even walked in.

Closed to further customers.

Are the owners of the Back to Eden Bakery named Adam and Steve?

Lillian's video though presented with unsympathetic commentary interruptions. I don't see her video alone on youtube. Maybe someone on facebook can get it. It should still be OK, she says she wants her video shared "far and wide".

[quote]I bet the jobless two probably prided themselves on their gluten free muffins.

Well, it is an all vegan bakery.

[quote]As a proud PoC I was offended that this bakery wasn't open at 4:07am for me, I even tried banging on the window and kicking the door but still the bakery was closed. Smdh when will these racist white bois learn tolerance?

[quote]Thanos travels long and vast to Portland to taste their delicious treat. Upon my arrival it was 1 minute before closing. They will not serve me because I'm from another planet. I will use my infinity stones so that you can open for 24 hours. Ha Ha Ha!!!

Yelp reviews.

This story is sickening.

That cunt Lillian Green is just trying to get rich and famous by exaggerating and flat-out lying.

And the owners are stupid "woke" assholes who are desperate to somehow make up for 350 years of systemic racism and are willing to throw any and all their fellow whites under the bus to do it.

If I lived in Portland I would go to this place all the time after they closed and force them to serve me and make a big deal out of it if they refused

So once the situation was explained to her, the woman who thought she was being denied service due to her color accepted their explanation and admitted she was wrong, correct?

R1 Well you are doing a rip roaring job of it!!

All one has to do is blink the wrong way to be declared a racist.

Can't wait for the pendulum to swing in the opposite direction for awhile. Enough with this black kowtowing.

The restaurant boasts absolutely vile decor. I want to hear more about how one of the owners is well known to SJWs as a con artist self promoter.

Fuck "Lillian" for feeling so bloody entitled SHE must be served because SHE wants coffee and pastries even though the damn place is closed. I don't linger anywhere near closing time, nor do I try to get service at the last minute at a restaurant either.

Owning a twee vegan bakery, working at one, and being a customer at one, all seem like invitations for trouble.

We are nursing a viper in our bosoms.

This Lillian person seems like one of those professional vexatious litigants. However, the woke vegan bakery owners sound insufferable, so I hope Lillian takes them for a RIDE.

R64, if they’re doing that reparations bullshit, it might be a stunt.

And I wonder if the employees were rehired after a day.

if they had served people after her...

Taking the article for truth, at closing time the front door should be locked. Someone is stationed at the door to let people out. If a customer gets into the store, even after hours, they should be served.

[quote]I had to go to the Blaze to see it

Which should be your first hint that this is race baiting nonsense.

We just learned that a black activist was paid by Republicans to shill for Bernie and convince other black voters to stay home on election day. We already knew people like Diamond & Silk were paid by Republicans. Do you really think these kinds of incidents just happen out of thin air? Think about who the market for this slop is: racists who want to sit online all day and whine about "SJWs" and "black scammers" and "white people are the real victims."

BS R70. People take advantage all the fucking time, as this incident evidences. Those bakery workers would never get out of there at night. Trust me, the minute someone would be let out, others would try to push in. In a previous lifetime I worked retail. I know how they are. Employers have a responsibility toward their staff too, that they will honour the hours of business, and that the workers can expect to get home at a reasonable hour.

[quote]there were people inside the bakery standing in line and ordering. There were also people sitting at tables. So when she came in and they said they were closed, she said she believed it was because she’s black as the people inside and in line we’re white.

That makes sense. Why are people taking to their fainting couches over this? If the employees kept serving after 9PM until a black lady came in and THEN decided to close up, that looks bad. It's not rocket science here.

[quote]if they had served people after her...

....yeah, ok, go ahead. Finish your thought, R69. If you’re suggesting they did serve people after her, you need reading comprehension lessons. Or, you’re just itching for a fight.

R69 &R73 Either pretend to read the bloody articles, or are functional illiterates.

Go cry to R53 if you don't like it, R75 -- he's the one who saw the videos before they were taken down.

[quote] If the employees kept serving after 9PM until a black lady came in and THEN decided to close up, that looks bad. It's not rocket science here.

You are making up your own set of facts R73. The article clearly states:

[quote]Two other white women who went to the bakery two minutes before "Lillian", and were also informed that the business was closed for the night.

So, you are right. It is not rocket science. But reading comprehension certainly helps.

People in this thread seem as stupid as people in Portland.

Again, I quoted R53 who said he saw the videos before they were taken down. And he's hoppin' mad at black people too, just like you are, so it's not like he's someone who lied in defense of this Lillian lady.

The people in line came in before 9. The people eating at the tables were already dining there before 9pm. When you go to the Olive Garden, do you expect to get kicked out the door mid-meal, mid-bite as soon as the clock hits closing time? No, they let you stay and finish your meal and won’t let any nude customers in.

[quote]and won’t let any nude customers in

[quote]won’t let any nude customers in

Well, I should hope not. Based on the people who dine at Olive Garden, that would ruin a lot of appetites.

By definition, shouldn't Social Justice be about the right of the workers as opposed,to abusive employers and entitled, demanding customers ?

Workers have the right to take breaks and to end their shift at a predetermined hour and to go home. It is not a priviledge, it is a right.

But, as you said, it is probably only a situation, artficially created fo publicity.

Still, everybody loses.

Quote from one of the owners in response to a negative review:

"Back to Eden does not discriminate against anyone except for white supremacist fascists intent on harming others."

What a complete lack of professionalism. Leave the running of a business (even one whose model is cringe-inducing) to the grown ups-you go back to the university system and hide under a desk with your juice box.

Marry me, R84.

*swoon*

When you say you don’t discriminate against “anyone,” then include the word “except,” you negate your point.

That’s like saying I like all types of music. Well, except for country, classical, opera, rap and pop.

Why would two gays name their bakery after Bible references? Are they gay Christians? Do they fancy themselves as Adam and Eve?

We are NOT gay. That isn’t a cause we want to be SJWs about. We’re just woke owners of a rad bakery, unmarried and are, uh, roommates.

I don’t know why everyone thinks we’re gay.

They are brothers, not gay.👬

In my neck of the woods, gays wouldn't abide such twee and dated decor.

R85 Dinner At Eight?

@ R80's clothing-optional Olive Garden. I've been jonesing for beef tips and tortellini.

OXOX

[quote](B) Obvious they were fired because they were white. POC who turned away a black woman after hours wouldn’t have been fired.

That is true. Can they say that it was an unfair firing and racist?

Why can’t people understand simple rules? And by people I mean those people.

Is this the same as—

From the image provided that bakery looks nasty. Their choice of wall decor is vile. Looks like several people vomited their pastries all over the walls.

It was humiliating.. one of them sneered at us and said, "we don't serve absinthe here!" And then slammed the door in our faces.

...........

“Being denied service because of brown skin isn't a "just approach management" type of inconvenience. Racism is a repugnant crime.”

She wasn’t denied service because if her skin, and this wasn’t a racist incident. Di d you eve read the story?

Dear DL, I'm a versatile lesbian and have been cruelly refused entry to a gay sex party, and was mocked at the door by the tops and bottoms I could see inside. They LAUGHED at me! What are my options?

R83 said: “By definition, shouldn't Social Justice be about the right of the workers as opposed,to abusive employers and entitled, demanding customers ?”

Good point.

Although we have to take into account the race and degree of oppression of all parties!

There was a time in my life where I seriously considered moving to Portland, based on this story and the reparations happy hour story ( which I assumed had to be a joke) and a few other things I have read about that city...I am so grateful I did not go ahead with my plan.

R99, you should make a video accusing them of eating deep fried toddler. It’s an uphill battle unless race was involved though. What color was the toddler you didn’t see?

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[quote]Because structural racism ignores POC in traditional venues. We're finding out about racist incidents because of cell phone video and social media for a reason. Being denied service because of brown skin isn't a "just approach management" type of inconvenience. Racism is a repugnant crime.

r40, I'm black. This has nothing to do with racism. What it does involve is some entitled a-hole who is trivialising actual cases of racism by inserting race into a situation where it has no bearing.

I used to work retail. There are few customers more hated than those who show up just a couple minutes before closing. It is common practice to close the door so no one else can come in while you settle up with those remaining customers. But then there are those true idiots, like this woman, who want to come in and be served AFTER closing time, and will try to enter when the other customers are leaving. I don't care what colour you are, if you come in after closing time, you will not be served.

The arrogance displayed by this type of customer is unbelievable. Guess what? Retail workers have lives just like you do. We need to close at the posted time so we can execute closing procedures and leave at a reasonable time. We have specific buses and trains to catch, kids to pick up, or, as it was in my youth, porn to watch. Whatever the reason, you don't have any claim to our time after closing, so piss off. What infuriates me is that the same bank manager who has no problem telling his customers that the bank is closed will then go to a retail store and then make a big stink when they try to enforce their own closing time.

This cunt was looking for some internet fame, plain and simple.

Before I switched to TD bank, which is open late, I can't even count how many times I arrived at like 3:01 pm and was denied entry into the bank. Of course they allowed the people already inside and on line to stay. I'm very obviously white.

I usually side with people of color in these matters but if a place closes at 9 you don't try to go in after 9. Perhaps the employees weren't respectful in the way they spoke but it was not right of me to try to get into the bank at 3:01, I stopped trying after awhile because I knew I was in the wrong and it was not right to try to get into a place that closes at 9 after 9.

Now if someone of color was already in there and was asked to leave after all the white people were gone that would probably be racist.

This is just cover your assery fuckery. The bakery was wrong and needs to apologize. The black lady is just looking for trouble and decided to test the waters. You're late? no donuts for you. Game over.

Vegan trash. Feel free to add additional adjectives I dare not to.

Someone should go in and sprinkle, smear, or pour gluten all over their shit!

[quote] Not sure what gluten looks like

This should help.

I worked retail years ago lie R106. Late customers and customers who don't leave at closing time are assholes. Not only do you have to close up, clean, and count the register, I had to drop off the money bag in a commercial drive through late at night. It's usually young kids having to close up like this and it is dangerous because there are few people around. And the person up thread is right closing time is dangerous for the workers because the crowds have left. I live in Austin where some young females were rapped and killed right after closing time a couple of decades ago at a yogurt shop. There were like 4 of them.

W&W, r112.

Do AAs even realize that this country has reached a tipping point and if stuff like this continues to happen their lives are going to become even less agreeable than they are now?

I'm not talking about a race war obviously; but I am talking about 70-75% of the country coming down with a major case of :just don't give a shitism." I mean why even bother to do the right things when they are never enough?

As was said in the video up thread, the left truly is eating itself. This bakery employs more POC, including the head pastry chef, than whites. And yet even they felt the need to fire 2 white employees just because of the customer's feelz. And reparations Happy Hour? That can't be real. Can it?

I have a can of vital wheat gluten in the cupboard R111 if you want to borrow it to run over to this bakery. I use it when I make 100% whole wheat bread.

I lived in the Portland area for a while in 1990, and I loved it. I thought it was much nicer than Seattle. I’m glad I don’t live there now. The influx of hipsters and far left whackos has really ruined the place.

It’s funny but I used to consider myself pretty far to the left, but the center keeps moving as the buttons keep pushing farther. It’s happening on the right too

[quote]"professional equity activist",

WTF is that?

[quote]I live in Austin where some young females were rapped and killed right after closing time a couple of decades ago at a yogurt shop. There were like 4 of them.

Yeah, that’s a really sad case. I think the youngest girl was 13. The oldest was 17 and closing up alone when her three friends came by to stay with her. The police think the guys were already in the store and simply waited out the last legit customers in order to assault and kill the four girls. Still unsolved.

My wheat gluten is VITAL!

[quote]I live in Austin where some young females were rapped and killed right after closing time a couple of decades ago

We dindu nuffin.

[quote]This has nothing to do with racism. What it does involve is some entitled a-hole who is trivialising actual cases of racism by inserting race into a situation where it has no bearing.

True.

[quote]I used to work retail. There are few customers more hated than those who show up just a couple minutes before closing. It is common practice to close the door so no one else can come in while you settle up with those remaining customers. But then there are those true idiots, like this woman, who want to come in and be served AFTER closing time, and will try to enter when the other customers are leaving. I don't care what colour you are, if you come in after closing time, you will not be served.

Yes. It's real arrogant, awful people who do this. I worked in retail, too, and witnessed this many times. There is other work that needs to be done, and also you are dead tired by the end of the shift. I would never act this way, and after retail experience I am even more aware. I actually walked into a place accidentally that was closing (it must have been daylight) and the person said "we're closing" and I said "sorry" and immediately left. These people have no compassion for others, especially others working long hours on their feet all day.

[quote]The arrogance displayed by this type of customer is unbelievable. Guess what? Retail workers have lives just like you do. We need to close at the posted time so we can execute closing procedures and leave at a reasonable time. We have specific buses and trains to catch, kids to pick up, or, as it was in my youth, porn to watch. Whatever the reason, you don't have any claim to our time after closing, so piss off. What infuriates me is that the same bank manager who has no problem telling his customers that the bank is closed will then go to a retail store and then make a big stink when they try to enforce their own closing time.

Yes, that is it. They do not consider that we have lives. Not for a second.

Wait r120, did someone think it was black dudes that did that yogurt shop? My ex is from Austin, I never heard that, I assumed it was a Randy Woodfield type white guy.

R122, I think R120 is making a joke because "raped" was spelled incorrectly as "rapped"

Oh duh! Thanks, r123.

Perhaps at a pharmacy for medication.

But there's no dire need for baked goods.

Mitch Hedberg did a joke about that. He said he walked by a dry cleaner's at 2 am and they had the "sorry, we're closed." sign and he was like, "you don't have to be sorry, you should be closed! No one needs fucking dry cleaning at 2 am"

Also, if you forget the race debate, people are also reacting at the injustice of employees complying to the bosses instruction and then being severely penalised for it.

The owners have lost a lot of credibility. But oh they are so hip.

Sorry, I typed rapped, I meant raped. Someone upthread had it right. A 17 year old worker and friends. They tried at least one guy but the conviction was overturned and they had other suspects. All were white. It happened when Austin was a smaller, sleeper city, right before it started growing from the tech boom. I know people who lived in the neighborhood and they said it was shocking. People here still talk about it.

Do you think they will get whoever did it, R128?

Most shop robberies occur at closing time.

There was that other girl that was abducted and murdered at the end of her shift.

There was also the famous Burger Chef murders case back in the late 70s.

Do the owners think that customers should be treated differently based on race? It doesn't sound like the employees telling the white women "sorry, we're closed" was an issue, but telling the black woman the same thing was a problem. Treating black and white customers the same got the employees fired, so does that mean the owner thinks that black and white customers should be treated differently? Doesn't that make them racist?

Another unsolved case, although this one happened around opening.

r133 pissing off white people by firing two innocent white girls won't get the bakery burned down.

Pissing off black people by not firing the innocent white girls WOULD get the bakery burned down.

And they just spent a lot of money on the renovation.

Calling out the black bitch as a sociopathic, borderline personality disorder having, two bit race hustler crack baby would have been the right thing to do, until the "protesters" showed up and burned the place down.

This is the same reason black people are afraid to criticize street gangs, because thugs will hunt them down and kill them like dogs.

[quote]Do you think they will get whoever did it, [R128]?

Not r128, but I’m the previous poster who gave the details. One of the big issues with this case is that one of the investigating cops was later fired for coercing confessions out of dozens of suspects, including a couple of the guys tried for these murders. The cop had a rep as a violent POS. Anyone interested in the case, here’s an article.

No, I don't think they will. Many people still think they had the right suspects but just not enough evidence and things got screwed up.

I blame Oprah and her public adoration for bread.

What a cunt.

R135 no black person in Portland is going to burn down that bakery.

Portland is not Rwanda.

This is considered news?

I hope the fired employees sue. Of course everybody who entered before 9 would be served but throwing a tantrum because you’re being denied service more than 5 minutes after closing is ridiculous.

Lillian is an activist. She needs a bigger platform. I can't imagine being an professional activist means big bucks. Bigger platform=payday.

"no black person in Portland is going to burn down that bakery.

Portland is not Rwanda."

Not as long as white people do EXACTLY what they say. Otherwise, the chimp genes take over just like every other black population in the history of the world.

Years ago I worked at Walgreens for a manager who could not tolerate people still roaming the aisles at closing time. Five minutes before closing he would walk through the store and tell customers it was almost closing time. At the stroke of the hour if someone was in line, they were waited on, otherwise he grabbed the cashier and the drawer from the register and hightailed it to the back office while someone was stationed near the locked door, cleaning or restocking. When the inconsiderate shoppers finally made their way to the register, they were told the manager thought everyone had left and the cashier was now gone, so they couldn't make purchases anymore. The door was unlocked and the imbeciles were let out, no doubt to go haunt another business.

Black people choose their own hours to shop, and set their own prices.

It da police an white rayciss dats da problem

If I were those fired employees I would anonymously start posting all over that they use flour (non-organic, of course), animal shortening and high fructose corn syrup in all their baked goods

Those are 3 mortal sins to hipster SJWs

They should be happy to be out of there. The way they tout this chick as some freedom fighter who is known locally makes me think she comes in there a lot, and I bet she's always a pain in the ass too.

The Bakery keeps changing their story about what happened, and removing their Facebook posts. This excerpt is really beyond the pale:

7. Did Back to Eden call the former employees “racist”? No. We have no way of knowing what their motivation was for enforcing the closing time unequally.

If I was one of the two fired employees, now I would sue. The Bakery's "intent" sure seemed to imply that the former employees WERE racist.

I agree the two fired ladies probably have legal ground for a defamation suit, but what good would it do. People in the area might know differently but I'd expect the SJW bums who own the shop probably have minimal equity of their own.

[quote] I agree the two fired ladies probably have legal ground for a defamation suit, but what good would it do.

It might put them out of business, which would be worth it.

Take the bakery to the cleaners.

Take the suit winnings and move to LA, where the weather is better.

Why didn’t the bakery just hire all black employees in the first place?

I can only speculate privately.

I patronize exclusively finer vegan establishments 100% staffed and owned by differently-abled POC.

[quote] 7. Did Back to Eden call the former employees “racist”? No. We have no way of knowing what their motivation was for enforcing the closing time unequally.

But that's false, according OP's article. The employees did not "enforce the closing time [bold] unequally. [/bold] They told the two white women who wanted to be served that the business was closed. Then they told Lillian, the "professional activist," that they were closed. How is that disparate treatment?

Yeah, sue those smug, arrogant pricks right out of business.

[quote]The employees did not "enforce the closing time unequally.

But they didn't enforce it equitably. The white customers don't experience racism daily like a black woman does, so being denied service had a greater impact on her.

Let's just re-segregate! Everyone will be happier!

I can't tell if r156 is being facetious or not.

She is a state employee.

Lillian Green, an equity director in the early learning division at the Oregon Department of Education. (aka Commissar).

Her uninterrupted video documenting her incident with the racist SJWs begins at 13 minutes. In her defense, she is not was not certain the two people who refused her service were women. However it appeared they probably so identified.

I couldn't make it through more than two minutes of her monologue.

Thank you for posting R159, after hearing her side of the story, if she is telling the truth, I have changed my mind and she absolutely has the right to be upset. If the staff served the two people in front of her, would it have been such a big deal to just serve one more person? Then go and put a "Closed" sign on the door and/or turn people away at the door before they made it into line? If what she says is true, then staff handled it very poorly.

Her story contradicts that of the article and the owners. Not buying it. I wonder if there’s surveillance video from either inside the bakery or outside the store front.

[quote] In her defense, she is not was not certain the two people who refused her service were women.

Yep, that's Portland, all right.

But to be a trans person working at that Portland vegan bakery would necessitate that you were the most politically correct person in the entire universe. It is really hard for me to believe they were racist as she is claiming.

Who the fuck cares? The store was closed. End of story.

R161, are you one of those “just the tip” people?

If the store is open 24 hours, you can serve “just one more” customer. Otherwise, a line has to be drawn somewhere.

r159 She said the experience was "heartwrenching" ffs, imagine how she is when actual tragedy strikes!

r166. I believe the lady. From the look of her I expect it is heart-wrenching any time she misses out on a cream-filled doughnut regardless of cause.

That’s such bullshit. if the whites people were turned away, how did it become a black racist issue? The place was closed — end of story. Stop pandering to the whole bullshit political correctness. This is how Trump got elected!

Back to Eden would like announce that we will never close their doors in off chance some ignorant chicken head wants a donut late at night again

A customer in the store watched it all and did not think it was about racism.

Maybe they can merge with Starbucks and go bankrupt.

I don't understand what I'm missing here, how is a fucking vegan bakery ever mobbed let alone mobbed at 9 pm? That's so bizarre.

It’s not r172. People start seeing everything through there lens of racism, homophobia etc. It warps their perception of things and sadly by crying wolf they undermine the real issue when it happens.. So when they experience anything contrary they rationalize that it must be racial bias, homophobia, etc. The truth is she was that the customer that came in after they closed and happened to be black. They should have served her since they didn’t lock the door.

Next time a cashier is closing their line in the supermarket and is taking no more customers so they can cash out and go home when I walk up I’m going to accuse the cashier of homophobia and sue the store. 🙄

This shop is a small store.

A big store allocates a staff member to close the door at the right time to stop latecomers from entering.

You lock the door at closing and let the remaining people out as they leave.

R173, I think that you completely missed R172's point -- or you intended to respond to someone else. I believe he was astounded that a vegan bakery would ever be mobbed with customers at any hour, let alone at closing time. Have you ever tried vegan baked goods? From what I recall from the few times that I have is that they are mostly dreadful. So why there would be that many people clamoring to get in is a mystery. (And, are there that many people drinking coffee at 9:00 p.m.??)

I agree. They all sound like an ignorant bunch of customers to be there so late. And why at a bakery/coffee shop? Is it the only place open?

R177 no, Alberta St, where the bakery is located, has tons of restaurants and bars that are open late.

I accept that this will not go over well, but WTF.

I think that most lower class blacks have no concept of accountability these days. They don't stop to think what part THEY may have played in an outcome which is negative for them. With the exception of a small handful, every black man shot by the police could have remained alive but for a choice they made to fight or evade the cops. "But that shouldn't mean they ought to be given the death penalty!!" No, but it does mean that they are accepting that they played no part in their unfortunate fate.

Same with the equality pastry lover. She is not looking at what happened and accepting any of the blame for what occurred. It would have been so easy for this not to have happened, but all she can see is that it DID happen and it must be because of her skin color and none of the choices she may have made.

I'm white(obviously) and nearly everyday I have to make choices about how to act and react. I modify my own behavior so that unpleasant incidents are few and far between. Do blacks think that white folks get whatever they want, whenever they want it because of their skin color?

That is hilariously absurd. We have to avoid conflict constantly, and most of us are pretty successful at that. Accountability is the reason we use restraint and we think before we make assholes of ourselves.

[quote] That is hilariously absurd. We have to avoid conflict constantly, and most of us are pretty successful at that.

You overlook a small detail. She is paid by the state to look for and find racism and inequality. It's a happy person who can combine their profession and hobby.

Wow R179 and R180 are brilliant.

That Lillian woman is paid to create trouble.

yep, she's a rabble rouser!

Thanks guys for all the love.

I have to tell you, R179, that I occasionally come across posts like yours here on DL that are so wonderfully logical and wise that I'm tempted to cut and paste them into my college essays.

Fantastic video @ R56.

This comment series KILLED me:

Evyn 155 Her eyes 🤣 she's been hitting that crack pipe hard

Dylan Bradford Greenlee Best comment

bansheebot2 See around the corner before she gets there.......

Anonymous Her eyes are tactically aligned for spotting racist microagressions

Lillian is like that guy who goes around looking for ADA violations and suing the pants off anyone who doesn’t have a ramp or Braille.

VEXATIOUS LITIGANTS. They are awful, miserable people.

My sister has one of these angry black women at her job. This woman has an attitude and doesn’t do any work, so the rest of the team has to pick up the slack. My sister has been documenting it via texts and photos (because my sister is BPD and woe unto you if you piss her off!). The supervisors met with HR and Legal and transferred this black woman to another assignment where she will be watched (my sister and her team work in rotations and somewhat independently). Now that woman filed a grievance. She also has a pending lawsuit against another school district. She’ll get her settlement, too, because you know why. And then she’ll move on to another district, rinse and repeat.

R186 Thx for such a great post. "Vexatious litigants" are perfectly awful, especially when they're gluten intolerant Vexatious Vegans!

[quote] Not only do you have to close up, clean, and count the register, I had to drop off the money bag in a commercial drive through late at night. It's usually young kids having to close up like this and it is dangerous because there are few people around.

My supervisor and I were once robbed at gunpoint as we dropped off the day's cash at the bank across the parking lot from our burger joint, at 11:30pm just like we did every night. (Which is a pretty fucking stupid policy if you take two seconds to think about it, which the owner clearly never did before that!)

Like all restaurants and retail operations, we only had a limited amount of time after closing to finish all our duties and be out the door. If we'd had to keep serving late customers, then we wouldn't have been able to finish on time and would both A) be forced to work for free, because the boss would only pay us for up to 30 minutes after closing time, and B) we'd be bitched out by the boss the next day, for taking too long and therefore not doing our jobs properly.

The two fired employees need to get out in social media so that people know who they are.

I'm 110% certain they would immediately find themselves swimming in job offers from much better companies than this bullshit twee vegan bakery!

But they would be labelled "racist" all over the media, forever, R189

I can't remember where I read this (I think it was a archived copy of one of the bakery's now deleted Facebook posts) but this was Lillian's first visit to the bakery. Was she just out looking for trouble somewhere, anywhere? Does she get paid to work on the weekends? (So, is this overtime?) Also, were the two employees who were fired trans? (Lillian said something like, "As far as I could tell, they were women?" What?!)

Unfortunately people like this aopportunists. There is a certain segment of society with zero ethics that exploit hot button issues like racism for personal gain. Instead of just walking away and recognizing the situation like a reasonable adult (here, I missed out by arriving too late) they seize the opportunity and whip out their phone and create a scandal and to retaliate against the individuals that didn’t give them their way..

I used to teach high school and i remember parents that would have some issue with their kid at school or with the school and instead of dealing with administration, they’d run to the local news. It was always funny how parents that you could NEVER get a hold of for parent conferences and discipline issues were suddenly front and center and outraged. It’s a real shame because as we know there are real issues with systemic racism that are costing people lives, especially young black men. This kind of BS gives racists ammunition to dismiss real racism as a non issue.

This woman should be ashamed of herself, crying racism over a cookie.

*are opportunists

[quote]Lillian said something like, "As far as I could tell, they were women?" What?!)

I think she was saying that about the customers ahead of her.

I thought it was actually a very strange comment to make from someone demanding sensitivity etc

She also describes herself as looking at the items on the counter, reading the menus on the wall. I don't know if the clerks saw that, but if they did,that might look like someone who wants to order a lot or have them make something which would take a long time especially after they are supposed to be closed.

R194, I took that as a very SJW thing to say - not assuming one's gender is WOKE. Of course we can’t assume one’s race. Maybe the workers didn’t want to assume her race.

Wouldn’t that be a twist.

R196, Yes, but isn't every man who is trans and says he is a woman, "A WOMAN'"? I have read they demand to be called "biological women" as well. I understand what you are saying, but to pause and say "I think it" could also be used to attack her.

because it never ends

I meant "As far as I could tell, they were women" for "I think...:

Thanks for the corrections regarding exactly what was said re: the "I think they were women" comment. On one hand, I found this whole matter ridiculous and also infuriating. On the other hand, I don't think that I can force myself to actually listen to this video of Lillian's. So, I remembered what had been quoted that she said, incorrectly.

"we know there are real issues with systemic racism that are costing people lives, especially young black men."

r192 can't say anything bad about the black community without pretending to believe there is a real crisis of systemic racism against young black men.

Young black man robs a bank? Systemic racism. Young black man drops out of high school? Systemic racism. Young black man refuses to raise his 5 kids from 6 baby mommas? Systemic racism and white privilege. Young black man lunges at cops and loses fight to the death? Systemic racism, police brutality. Young black men killing each other at the same rate as 3rd world war zones? Systemic racism.

Too freaking true, R200.

Lillian may be about to eat some Karma Cake.

[quote] Young black man refuses to raise his 5 kids from 6 baby mommas?

Clearly there's no racism in the educational system. Whites are equally bad at basic mathematics.

Someone should let this threatening negro lady know that she can't take naps in the Yale dorm loungers, either.

Not comparable to this situation at all, R204. And I do think that the Yale situation was racist.

I feel bad for the good black people in the US because so many bad ones are doing an excellent job of getting the rest of us to hate them.

Shenanigans like this don't help.

GHETTO blacks feel emboldened due the the constant race baiting from the left and the media.. This woman is out of control and fuck the self loathing gay owners.

The angry black man scares me too

Tommy Sotomayor is so quick and on the money with his observations. If he were not, the angry black women could clown the bejesus out of him, but they can't. And that leaves them no alternative but to lash out at him by declaring him to be gay.

Hilarious. And it makes them looks even more unhinged than ever if that's possible.

R179 You have more love, if you're still on the thread.

A simple explanation, clearing up everything for those too stupid or simple-minded to tell the truth.

But we both know many of the apologists on DL aren't gay. Fact. Undeniable.

Some additional background. They're digging themselves into a deeper hole.

Portland is the often called the "whitest city in America." According to the most recent census, the population is more than 75 percent white. Northeast Portland, the neighborhood where the bakery is located, is a historically black neighborhood that has been heavily gentrified in recent years. Between 2000 and 2014, the black population in that area dropped from 30 percent to 17 percent. Black businesses have been replaced by white-owned shops, cafes, and bars.

As the news start to spread, people flooded Back to Eden's Facebook page with accusations of racism. The very next morning, at 9:06 am, exactly 12 hours after Green was denied service, Back to Eden's John Blomgren, who owns the bakery with his husband, posted a 3,000 word apology on Facebook.

"Since both Lillian and the clamoring public were demanding that these staff members be fired that it is what we did putting these two young women out of work.”

Since then, Blomgren has walked back his claim that they fired the employees due to the "clamoring public,"

Perhaps ironically, a few weeks before being accused of racism, Back to Eden had agreed to host a "Reparations Happy Hour," in which white people donate money to an event for people of color only. That event was organized by Cameron Whitten, an activist in Portland, who, in 2012, protested in support of low income housing by staging a 55-day hunger strike in front of City Hall.

Whitten told me in a phone interview that the day after Green was denied service, Blomgren called him and asked for advice on how to respond to the crisis. Whitten says he offered to help the bakery craft their message (or even to do it for them) but the owners didn't listen, and instead, later hired a white man to serve as the company's interim CEO and do their PR. This, Whitten says, was a mistake. "White people don't have the lived experience to speak to black people," he says.

On June 2, several weeks after the incident, Whitten posted a nearly 50-minute video on Facebook, about "why you can't trust the wolf in sheep's clothing that is Back to Eden Bakery."

"Here, again, a white person has fucked up," Whitten says. "They fucked over a black person and they will not be qualified to make amends to this black person." Whitten goes on to accuse Blomgren of performative allyship, centering himself, name dropping Whitten without consent, and—his primary complaint—writing an apology that was too damn long. In the end, Whitten both cancelled the Reparatations Happy Hour scheduled at Back to Eden and joined Lillian Green in calling for a boycott.

Neither Lillian Green nor the bakery responded to request for comment, but for his part, Whitten says he doesn't want to see Back to Eden close down because of this. "A boycott is not about putting them out of business," he said. "It's about creating change. I'm giving them an opportuntity to come correct. I will meet with John or Robert if they affirm their racism and anti-blackness. They say black lives matter but now they are being asked to demonstrate that their actions mean more than words."

[quote]Back to Eden's John Blomgren, who owns the bakery with his husband

DL nailed this (although it was fairly obvious).

[quote]Whitten both cancelled the Reparatations Happy Hour scheduled at Back to Eden and joined Lillian Green in calling for a boycott.

They really do eat their own.

The owners should just close the bakery and move to a different location with a different name. Take their employees with them.

Oh, and leave the store vacant.

This sounds like it will never end.

Next up - sackcloth and ashes. Or tar and feathers. Or being run out of town on a rail. Or stocks in the public square. - etc. etc. etc.

Now I’m confused. The bakery was WOKE enough to host a Reparation Happy Hour but that still wasn’t enough? The owners went too far already, IMO.

Give an inch...

Are people calling her and the bakery on this bullshit?